The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: I Might Say *****

Episode Date: February 28, 2024

David is still here for us to celebrate 1000 episodes of Nothing Personal and continue our surge pricing conversation, discuss the Carolina Panthers tickets, and Rob Manfred hating the show. Then, a v...iral Price is Right clip, Chris Wittygham gets roasted by a WGN host, and Dan was fooled by the internet again. Plus, we discuss the pressure LeBron James has put on his son through a series of tweets. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the big sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants
Starting point is 00:00:29 just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. During the break, not surprisingly, Stu got delighted, his face awashingly,
Starting point is 00:00:47 when he created a for-rich people-only Wendy's Express Lane. A willing to pay more only Express Lane. That's it. Sometimes you're in a rush, there's a separate lane for people who are willing to pay more. Right. If you want to wait and pay normal prices,
Starting point is 00:01:01 feel free to do so. That's fair. Yeah, make everything first class and coach. Make and coach make everything. I mean, it's, it already is sort of that. It's just not quite as your highways are like that. It's not quite as overt as what Wendy's is present. It does seem like it's hard for Wendy's to please people outside of just lowering their prices. Like, I disagree. Probably could do. No, I'm not saying you could do dynamic pricing. Like, oh,
Starting point is 00:01:23 this is an off hour. It'll be lower money before this conversation I've always thought of Wendy's as a place that only pleases people that it's a place that is only pleasure I would bathe in a bathtub full of that Frosty just got me back with the frosty he did things were different when Dave was around Dan that ever since we lost Dave That's true. Things have been totally different. Do you guys buy the frosty key tag? I have one in my wallet. So I use this is a whole That must be from six years ago No, this is from this year says 2024 before you could buy that frosty key tag for $1 and it is always at the end of the year So you get the frosty key tag and with any purchase you just show them that and they give you a small frosty for free with any purchase
Starting point is 00:02:02 It used to cost a dollar now. It's up to $3. It's gone last year was $2. Now it's $3. That's still a good deal. It kind of is though. And like this is, this is our David's point is that like, I'm now paying triple what I paid two years ago for it. But in my head, I'm like, well, I just get three frosts a year and it's already paid for. So it's good. I was willing to pay $3 for it when two years ago. It only cost one dollar
Starting point is 00:02:25 We have been remiss in not celebrating my key take go David Samson has it and nothing personal have celebrated today He just got off the air celebrating their thousandth episode Are we doing anything more to celebrate that with David other than that crappy fanfare? Well like we do around here. We want to celebrate his 1000th episode in song. We love you, we've got you, we've all got each other. Let's go right now. One, two, three, Brett. One, two, three, Brett! Why am I sitting in a bald-blood chair? You're the strangest guy alive. Sold a team for about a billion dollars
Starting point is 00:03:06 You're not for me Clive It's all business, nothing personal honey I'm cashing in on this podcast and money It's time to celebrate 1,000 episodes Where I tell you to wait to see Oh, as I'm running through the tall sky Scraper's got some music, baby, go pee pee There's a new show in town, pop a tori, find sound And I'm seein' the way the jailer's seein'
Starting point is 00:03:39 Just put me in the mace, oh, pee What's the problem with the movies that I'm seeing? Yeah, that perk is out of touch I find it hard to have human feeling And you fear darts a bit too much Dan Levitard says I'm made out of wires The word of the day is short selling buyers. It's time to celebrate 1,000 episodes
Starting point is 00:04:08 where I tell you to wait to see. Are you gonna download another 1,000 episodes where I guess I'll have to wait to see? That really doesn't feel like a celebration of David Sampson or his 1,000 episodes. He does like the song, though. We do a thousand every three weeks. So thank you. That is the most production value that you've ever added to nothing for a smoke. I appreciate that. You were screaming for a doorbell one day. It does exist a little bit on the periphery of what it is that we're doing here, but congratulations
Starting point is 00:04:50 on a thousand episodes. It's a big milestone, a long time to talk to yourself, many episodes to tell people that what they need to do in sports is wait and see. It's something that started off small and you actually were one of my first guests in a Samson Sitdown. And all I remember of our show is that Mike Ryan basically wanted all of it edited out because he was so concerned with what we were talking about.
Starting point is 00:05:15 And it seems like a long time ago, and it's four years ago. But we are gonna keep going. And thank you for bringing us on board. Love being a part of Metal Arc. I don't love the position you put me in Dan outside of the podcast. Which you do purposefully and you do it both in the name of content but also in the name of running a business. And it causes issues with Greg and with so many other people within metal arc.
Starting point is 00:05:38 And for that I'm not happy but to be able to do the show under the Metalhawk umbrella for that, I am happy. Promo code, he haw 21, it's 21% off, a little more than Samson Sucks 20, the 20% off code. The Carolina Panthers, speaking of sucking, they were really terrible last year and then raised their ticket prices. Your thoughts there?
Starting point is 00:06:01 I think, again, let's, I wanna hear from the room because if you're gonna complain about them raising the ticket prices, the reason why they're able to do it is that people are willing to pay more even though the team is two and 15. Now they could have done better PR. We used to raise ticket prices in different areas after losing seasons but always announce that the majority of seats are lower or overall there's zero increase because we wanted the people paying more to pay more than more and we wanted the people who don't really pay at all to keep paying nothing at all and so the Panthers PR was terrible But in terms of raising prices just so you know
Starting point is 00:06:38 there's no correlation between losing and The inability to raise prices and Caroline is showing that now. Can you tell me where we are with Vegas and Oakland and the Oakland A's? Rob Manfred came out, we didn't even talk about this. What happened with your interview with Rob and the ramifications of that last week. But he came out and said it's solid.
Starting point is 00:07:00 Solid as a rock, Ashford. They are going to Vegas. There's just no deal. I haven't seen any deal. I haven't seen any signed documents. Haven't seen whether a ballpark can fit on nine acres. Oakland has to announce where it's playing for the next few years before they get a stadium opened. I think there's just so much green to cover. Can you still birdie a hole when you're 300 yards out? You can. You better hit like three really good shots in a row. And I think that's where Oakland is right now.
Starting point is 00:07:28 And in terms of their payroll and all the complaints about John Fisher and the hope that he sells, just know that people used to fly banners over Shea Stadium asking the Wilpons to sell. Everyone wanted Lorie to sell or Heisinga and then Henry. Everyone wants everyone to sell until someone else buys and then they want them to sell. The A's are not being sold today or tomorrow. And I think the A's could still stay in Oakland, believe it or not, but we'll wait to see.
Starting point is 00:07:56 But it's looking like you're going to be wrong on that once the commissioner says it's solid, correct? Well, but what else is he going to say? You think he's going actually get an agenda interview? He doesn't have to say anything. He doesn't have to say anything. He do. That's the job of the commissioners, actually to push things along
Starting point is 00:08:13 by promulgating hopes, if not falsehoods. That's what we would ask Bud Sealings to do throughout our whole process in Miami, is to get out there and either be the bad guy or the good guy, depending on what we needed at a particular time in the process. It has nothing to do with the reality. It has to do with positioning and the dynamic of the negotiating relationship.
Starting point is 00:08:32 So a commissioner's job, and you see Roger Godel doing this all the time, you say things, everything is with a purpose. So every word Rob says has a meaning and is done for a reason. Is he a smart guy? Extraordinarily. That's for a reason. It's, yes, Mark Guy. Extraordinarily. That's actually not true. No, don't do this again, please. You're going to get all of us in trouble, Dan.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Well, what was the blowback last time? Because you and I didn't actually talk on the air. We didn't talk off the air either. You just said that we were blackballed or that our show was blackballed from baseball and it was the first I was learning of it. Well, it got aggregated and it got the attention of baseball and they made a statement saying that it wasn't true. So the good news is that you can now, whoever you want from the commissioner's office, you should ask, maybe they'll come on the show to do an interview with you.
Starting point is 00:09:19 I was always under the impression because like with the Marlins, we couldn't get any of our players to really go on your show because they viewed you as overwhelming and mean and trying to trick them and trying to get them. And so the players just wouldn't do it. And then the owner didn't want anyone doing your show. So it's not an uncommon thing for people not to wanna do your show as manifested sometimes
Starting point is 00:09:40 through your guest list. So I would say that the commissioner says that maybe someone will come on again. But when the spokesperson denies it and you're claiming the opposite, what's true and what's not true there? I'm really more of a consequentialist and I don't wanna get in trouble again,
Starting point is 00:09:57 but isn't the proof in the pudding? Has anyone been on your show? I mean, we don't ask for many baseball players to be fair, but I didn't even notice what you're claiming is a blackballing. It's not something that I've noticed. Is that knowing such a... I don't like that word. Did I use the word blackball?
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yes. We've had Marlins on. We've had Marlins on. Skip Shoemarker in studio. Yeah. It's an unfortunate word. I'm glad, actually, that the Marlins are more taking to you. And I like that they send free stuff to all of you now
Starting point is 00:10:25 That's something that's really good. You get those media packets with shwag. That's a positive Maybe it'll get you what they really want you to do is speak positively about the Marlins Yeah, I think he's spelling it with a CH there. I think he's putting it's not a W and swag It's a SCH is how he's spelling swag. What movie are you reviewing for us this week? I S.C.H. is how he's spelling swag. What movie are you reviewing for us this week? I'm gonna give oxygen to a movie that I'm very sorry to do, but did anyone see the new Jennifer Lopez documentary? No, but I saw she posted a misquoted review
Starting point is 00:10:57 on her Instagram story saying that it was like a brave movie, but the full context was like, it was brave that she made this terrible movie, essentially. She paid for it herself, right? Then she paid $20 million to tell the story of her love life. Well, so she paid 20 million, but of course you in the room paid the 20 million. Everyone who buys the tickets
Starting point is 00:11:16 and everyone who does everything with her, that's who paid for it. It's called This Is Me Now. And it's all about her love life. It's all about how she wants love and has never had love and now has love This Is Me Now. And it's all about her love life. It's all about how she wants love and has never had love and now has love and didn't before. And it's really just a big music video.
Starting point is 00:11:31 It's so bad that it only got green lit because it's J.Lo and Ben Affleck plays some sort of bizarre character and a guy named Fat Joe is her therapist. A guy. And a guy named Fat Joe. A guy, Joey Crack. Well, the guy, the real Fat Joe, plain Fat Joe is her therapist. A guy. A guy named Fat Joe. A guy, Joey Krak. Well, the guy, the real Fat Joe, plain Fat Joe,
Starting point is 00:11:49 it's only 66 minutes. That's the good news. The better news is I've saved you and your entire audience 66 minutes of your life. You do not need to see this under any scenario. It is horrible. Samson, thank you. Real quick, we've got less than 30 seconds left. I urge the audience to check out Nothing Personal. What are you and Adnan Burke willing to
Starting point is 00:12:14 say about what you're gonna do for the Oscars? 20 seconds. Thanks for the promotion. We're trying to work with MetalArch so we can do a live show from Miami, like an Oscar party, a pre-party, and then a watch party during the Oscars. And I have no indication whether it's green lit or not, because I can't get anyone to return a call. So Dan, if you could possibly, the Oscars are like in 10 days. Okay, great. Oh, it'd be good to know.
Starting point is 00:12:38 Great, great. You're all invited to a party that none of you are going to attend, an Oscar party that we may or may not do. Thank you, David. Hey folks, it's Mike Ryan. Now, you've had the distinct privilege of knowing me for close to 18 years and you know that I've changed.
Starting point is 00:12:56 A lot of my personal life has changed. I've changed as a professional. I am a parent now. My level of involvement in my favorite college football program has also changed. But one thing that hasn't changed for me is my favorite beer. You know when it's real with me. I think you do anyways, and you know how much I love Miller Lite. I've loved it forever, really. It's my favorite beer of all time,
Starting point is 00:13:16 and it made all the great moments in my life all that much better. And when Miller Lite came aboard on our show, I was super stoked about it because I believed in the product. Because every time I take a sip of Miller Lite came aboard on our show, I was super stoked about it because I believed in the product. Because every time I take a sip of Miller Lite, I look around and I think, yeah, this was the right call. Times change. People like me can change. But you can always enjoy the great taste of Miller Lite.
Starting point is 00:13:36 Tastes like Miller Time. To get Miller Lite delivered right to your door, visit MillerLite.com slash Dan. We can try to find it pretty much anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin 96 Galleries per 12 ounces Don Lebatard well Charlie sent Charlie had this Charlie as far as I know so just Charlie's title in my Stugats
Starting point is 00:14:00 How familiar were you at the time with Chewbacca like how how, your upbringing had how much Chewbacca in it? This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugas. ["The Don Lebatard Show"] Juju, please put it on the poll at Lebatard Show. Will you always stop and watch a game show video that has gone viral? Because I believe that the way that all of us consume game shows today in the modern age is when a Wheel of Fortune clip or a Jeopardy clip or in this case, a Price Is Right clip makes an appearance nationally. I believe this has
Starting point is 00:14:46 to be, maybe there is a spin in the history of Price Is Right that is as great as what we're about to watch here, but I don't think there's ever been anything better still got. So as a way of setting this up, I'm going to tell you that the participant who is now spinning the wheel is doing so after the first spinner has gotten 90 cents. The second spinner has gotten 95 cents. And now this is the third spinner. And what's the goal of this for people that don't know? Well, the goal is to get a dollar and closest to a dollar, right? Two spins or a spin that will get you a dollar or closest to a dollar right two spins or a spin that will get you a dollar or closest to a dollar I said everybody knows the rules and no one in
Starting point is 00:15:30 this room knows the rules of prices what did you guys do I've never seen it at home well Maury probably Maury Maury I don't know I've never seen a second of the prices right what the prices right is a staple to a sick day. All I know, this is what I know. Steve, come on down. Yeah! Woo! And then he goes and then that's all I know. They don't do that anymore.
Starting point is 00:15:51 What? Yeah, now the studio, COVID ruined everything. The Price Is Right being the most important of things ruined by COVID. So now they just have like eight people in the audience and I think like everyone gets called. Yeah, they have like little pods of people. It's like a whole annoyance. It's not a thing You want to know a fun fun Hollywood fact about the prices, right that I was given Dan?
Starting point is 00:16:10 Yes, the prices right and Bill Maher use the exact same stage She's just move all the props off of the stage. Wow prices right and then Bill Maher does whatever he does at night That's hilarious. Yeah, I watched that documentary about the guy who like perfected the prices, right? Did you guys see that that guy was wrong that guy was wrong? So the guy would watch wrong bitch Gilmore that's the only thing I know barker when he punches have a Gilmore hell of a left hook We actually share a studio without kick. Those are not apples and oranges on the analogous comparison Price is right and boom are are on opposite ends of the fund spectrum. Are they not? Yeah. Fair point. Don't know much about either. Honestly. Okay. Take me
Starting point is 00:16:53 through here because there was a lot of stuff that I found objectionable about what you guys were saying there. But one thing I didn't understand at all at the center of the price is right documentary you guys are talking about Were you saying that the subject of the movie was wrong or was wrong? Duh wrong Duh with a D the man went and he did his studies And he knew the prices of things based on watching the show They recycled the same prizes over and over again And he just had like a list of what all the prizes were worth so when he had to guess the prices He knew them because he watched the show so much now and he just had like a list of what all the prizes were worth. So when he had to guess the prices,
Starting point is 00:17:25 he knew them because he watched the show so much. Now, he was an idiot for getting it down to the dollar because then it's like, well, hold on, something's up here. You gotta sell it. Exactly right, be off by like $25. You gotta do like the, oh, I don't know. Yeah, fake it a little bit. Agonizing over it.
Starting point is 00:17:41 Look out to the crowd, like what do you guys think? Smugness was the real crime there, I suppose. This is a... What I will describe, I'm gonna just say it, the greatest set of spins in the history of Price's Rights. Really? I'm gonna set it up again for you guys who don't know how this game is played. The- the- he's gotta get a hundred cents,
Starting point is 00:18:02 a total of a hundred cents, because the first two spinners are as close as you can possibly be Nine there are no one cents on the wheel. It's just five and five cent increments So the first spin was 90 cents the second one 95 cents so he has to get 95 or a dollar that with two spins He's got to get to a hundred. He's got to get over 90 and 95 it's damn near impossible but look at what happens here my man my brothers my sisters my nieces my nephews and all my friends I met today on the way here thank you thank you oh man
Starting point is 00:18:39 oh just just to taunt you. So lands on 90. OK. So basically, at this point, the only things that help him on the wheel are five and a dime. But then, if he wins, he gets another spin. To be here regardless of what happens. Good. Five or a dime are the only things that help him wheel. What?
Starting point is 00:19:00 Oh! Can you start a car around the wheel? So you would think, exactly a dime. I thought, yes, it lands on a dime and I thought, okay, this is as good as this video gets. This is miraculous just by itself that this guy was able to land on the one spot on the wheel that helps him win, but now he wins a bonus spin. What a wheel round. That was a $95 and $90 for Mew.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Everybody was spinning big. Oh my me. Everybody was spinning big. Everybody was spinning big on that one. So this wheels got some mojo in it right now. You got a thousand bucks, you're on your way to the showcase. Now you get an extra chance to take money from us. One spin, five or fifteen, gets you ten thousand dollars dollar gets you twenty five thousand dollars Good luck One spin Spin for your life He's got a land in one of three places to win money and there's only one place on the wheel
Starting point is 00:19:59 He can land to get all twenty five thousand dollars No to get all $25,000. No. No. It lands on a dollar. $25,000. $25,000. You will all stop on that, correct? You guys will all stop on Game Show winning joy that goes viral, correct?
Starting point is 00:20:22 Or, or game... Or misery, yeah. Which one will you stop on more? You're gonna stop on more, instead of joy, you're gonna stop on the person you can make fun of for being dumb, right? I would light the camera on the guy who spun the wheel and got 95 cents, because 95 cents never loses.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Never loses in prices, prices right. And it's just like, yep, you're out of here. Right. Goodbye. That person looked like PJ Washington at the end of the game. Flexing. Hand out up at the end of the game. Hand it out up in the air.
Starting point is 00:20:47 Did that not happen a lot? I don't know. It doesn't happen a lot, but that I've never seen happen. Like that sequence of events is mathematically improbable as any sequence of events that could possibly happen. So I see that everybody has name tags, right? So everybody in the crowd also has name tags. Does that mean that they're eligible to go on the show and spin?
Starting point is 00:21:06 Yeah, the crowd does seem to be bigger than it was the last time I watched. So people can't be happy for the guy, because they're like, damn, that could have been me. No, you're always happy. That's the thing, you cheer for everyone. You help everyone. The whole crowd is yelling,
Starting point is 00:21:17 prices that could have been me and it's not. I know, it's the only place in America where we're not. There's a tinge of jealousy. There's a tinge of jealousy. I don't care what anyone says. You think people shout like the wrong prices so they do poorly? So there's still a spot for them?
Starting point is 00:21:29 That's a good question. I would. I wanna ask the entirety of the group here. Whittingham took quite a beating here just for the year that he was here and yesterday on the show, everyone turned on him for being publicly a coward who has walked away from his crusade
Starting point is 00:21:46 of being a pioneer who normalizes the word penis to a national broadcasting audience. He ran into anemesis here and you guys help me out. I don't know who Pat Tomasulo is from Chicago. Is he a famous Chicago sports radio or sports television personality? Can any of you help me with who this is? He's a sports anchor on WGN Morning News in Chicago. He went after Chris Whittingham. Excuse me, Chicago.
Starting point is 00:22:13 There you go. Thomas Sulo went after Whittingham. Is this Jim's brother? I don't, it's not Tom Sula. It's not the Swamp Monster. I'm glad you brought him up though. Yeah, thank you, that didn't stop me at all. It's not the swamp monster. I'm glad you brought him up though. Yeah, thank you. That didn't stop me at all. It was a very good joke. Bring this back to it. Totally different name, not the accurate name or the guy that I'm
Starting point is 00:22:33 talking about. Tom Sula. It would have been a better time to keep your microphone off. Let's, uh, everyone's happier thinking about Jim Tom Sula. Put it on the poll at Levitard show, Juju. Is everyone happier when they think of the swamp monster, Jim Tomsul? I have to be honest. I am. I mean, he should have left his mic shut, but I am, I am happy he brought the name. Next time I'll do it straight to your ear. Thank you. Pat Thomas Sulo goes after Whittingham this way. Broadcasters are on platform, smother than that, that don't use the word either.
Starting point is 00:23:06 And so why am I going to continue, we made headlines, it turned into a thing on the show, this is a big program with a big reach, and yet somehow I was the only one. What? Wow. The only one? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Let me tell you something. I walked so you could run. That's right. I've been saying penis since before you could shave, which judging by the looks of you, was yesterday. Nobody else is doing it for the last 10 years. You turn on this show any day of the week, I might say penis, I might say testicles,
Starting point is 00:23:40 I might say Vastephrins, Frenulum, Cortespondiogl, Prostate, whatever I gotta say to accurately convey information to my viewers is what I'm gonna say. Other days what I can do better, of course. Sometimes I'm lazy, and I might say that a guy got hit in his Indiana bones or his chuck dickens, but I will be dead. If I let you ignore the sacrifices I have made in the name name of journalism, quite frankly, for a better America. In America where every man's broad stripe
Starting point is 00:24:08 and bright stars is treated with the dignity and respect they deserve. That's right. That's right. God bless America. We were really disappointed as a show in Whittingham yesterday. That's a real chucklefest that show.
Starting point is 00:24:25 My boy dropped some barzo. He wrote in a prompter, which is the best part. I might say, I might say, I might say, I might say, I might say, I might say, I might say, I might say, I might say, Majora. There's a lane. There's a lane here. If Pat Tomasulo can take that lane, there's a lane here. If Pat Thomas Sulu can take that lane, there's a
Starting point is 00:24:47 lane here for you, Jessica, to be the shocking announcer. Running out of body parts. Someone to beat me. Another one. Indiana Bones was good. Stars and stripes was good too. Bring America into it. I need to make a couple of corrections from yesterday. I got fooled by the internet again. It happens. yesterday I got fooled by the internet again it happens Hemba Walker did not score 92 points overseas what you and I you and I also described every time the entire show when it was talking about Nvidia pronounced it wrong because I pronounced it the only way in video that's the way it's an N in a V that's how I thought everybody would pronounce it we all pronounced it wrong but also
Starting point is 00:25:24 Billy is now feuding with Disney adults do we need to make a correction here and in a V that's how I thought everybody would pronounce it. We all pronounced it wrong, but also Billy is now feuding with Disney adults. Do we need to make a correction here? Because I don't know that you've had a bigger fight than the one you're presently in. I mean, I have a public apology coming out. Well, not apology, but I tried to address this on Mystery Crate this week, because factually, there were some things that I was inaccurate about. And I feel like, as you know me, I'm all about accuracy. so like I did say that Disney's Magic Kingdom used to be the happiest place on earth and now they changed the most magical place on earth apparently Disneyland was the happiest place on earth always and in Orlando is always the most magical place on earth but that
Starting point is 00:25:59 doesn't change the fact that some of the things that I said may have been been accurate about you know them not being super nice and they used to be nicer. And then I said that there should be separate lines for adults and there should be separate lines for people with children and then Disney adults were mad about that. And I said, you know what? I feel like if you actually think about it, this would make a faster experience for you guys as well because kids take forever in these lines, but they weren't happy about that, so. I might say,
Starting point is 00:26:26 I might say, I might say, I might say, I might say, I might say, Don Lebatard. Let's go to 80. His name is Bo.
Starting point is 00:26:35 His name is Bo. Wow. I think Billy typed an eight instead of a B, fine. It's a clear state of mind. Two dollars. Two guts. Number eight. Numberatz. Number eight. Number eight.
Starting point is 00:26:46 It's Chris Corner on the line. C.C. Go ahead. GCC Don Lebatar Show with a Stugatz. V.O.B. is the one that made me laugh. And I do wonder if any of those words are allowed to be said in the state of Florida. Any one of them.
Starting point is 00:27:10 I'm not sure. We might have to bleep all of those out now. Stugatz, I am having trouble as many people are, because when Billy says he is all about accuracy, I feel like it's harder to be accurate than it has been in a while because I'm watching Drake May throw a ball effortlessly 80 yards and I have to go around the room and ask everybody, is this a real thing or is this like what they did with Michael Vick in a Nike commercial many years ago where he threw a ball out of a stadium because everything can be changed by artificial intelligence. That was real. That one was real. Drake may effortlessly throwing the ball 80 yards. I know Caleb Williams and some others
Starting point is 00:27:58 aren't going to be throwing at the combine. Drake may clearly will be throwing at the combine if that's what he's going to show off. I was talking I was talking about the Vic one by the way. He's not going to throw the combine. Drake may clearly will be throwing at the combine. If that's what he's going to show off. I was talking, I was talking about the Vic one, by the way, he's not going to throw the combine because he released that video and everybody's like, okay, he's got the chuch. We don't need to see him throw that. So we know this video is real. I'm taking my claim that the video is real. Oh, when he told us, are we getting close to the point where like potential draft prospects could decide to not participate in the combine and release AI videos of themselves doing things they can't actually do.
Starting point is 00:28:29 I love that. If there's a way to do it, Bron is going to do it for Bronnie soon. That's weird. Like that story is weird, right? Yes. Which part of it? Well, where he was like talking up his son and saying he should be drafted high, blah, blah, blah, whatever. And then as things are playing out and obviously, you know, his son had a medical issue and like is coming back from that. But as things have played out and people have projected his draft stock falling, now LeBron has pulled a 180 and he's like, why is everybody putting so much pressure on him?
Starting point is 00:28:58 He just let him play. And it's like, well, you, you did this. Let him be a normal kid. On March 6th, LeBron tweeted, man, Bronani definitely better than some of these cats I've been watching on league pass today. Shit lightweight, hilarious. No pressure with laughing emojis. And then yesterday, can you all please just let the kid be a kid and enjoy college basketball? He can't be a normal kid, Dan. He's LeBron son.
Starting point is 00:29:21 I mean, I don't know what LeBron is doing here because a guy posted a mock draft had had Brani going in the second round. And by the way, if I'm the Nix, I would trade up get Bronnie this year and I would get LeBron James. I would do that if I'm the Nix, but a guy did a mock draft and he had Bronnie in the second round and the Bron commented on that and then deleted the tweet. That's absurd. Like, what are you doing? The reason there's pressure on Bronnie is because of you, because you're his dad. And that's okay. It's okay. But you, he's added to the pressure with, I want to play with them. Like basically tell them, get out of college as fast as you can. Cause I want to play with you.
Starting point is 00:29:56 Yeah. It is understandable that all of the internet will fall on the head of America's most famous athlete and, uh, you know, a sports, an American sports internet pioneer in terms of following parents make mistakes all the time. It's a fairly regular thing. Being the son of LeBron James in basketball seems like something that would be hard to overcome for any child. Also for a father who wants good overcome for any child, also for a father who wants good things for their child, but also doesn't want to cause things that damage
Starting point is 00:30:31 their child. Brani evidently, from what people are saying, isn't all that good by pro-prospect standards. He has fallen off some mock draft boards because he probably will have to wait till 2025 to be pro ready LeBron is talking now the reports are that LeBron wants a three year nine figure contract So that LeBron somebody's gonna pay LeBron James if he wants three years at Tens of millions of dollars a year They're gonna pay for the for whatever the LeBron James Circus is in his 40s when he wants to play with his son.
Starting point is 00:31:09 I understand every criticism of LeBron James. I understand LeBron wanting to play with his son. I also understand LeBron not having any idea how to parent this publicly. How many mistakes did you make with some of your first, with your, anyone listening? I made a ton of mistakes then. With your first child, with a child.
Starting point is 00:31:26 But this set of circumstances, where you wanna do the best thing for your kid and show his future, have him separate and apart from your name when he's gonna have, man, do you think it's hard to be Marcus Jordan? Do you think it's hard to be Michael Jordan's kid? Yeah, but Dan, the point is, yes, I made a lot of mistakes. My wife, we made mistakes. We didn't blame others.
Starting point is 00:31:45 What LeBron is doing is blaming guys who are coming up with mock NBA drafts and coming up with where Bronnie's gonna fall, it said mock NBA drafts. It's not their fault that Bronnie's life is difficult. It's not. He's not running a family business, right? Like this isn't a paint store that you can hand off to your kid.
Starting point is 00:32:03 This is the NBA. You either are good enough for your nod. So, you know, he could be his, it obviously is not easy being the son of one of the greatest basketball players of all time, right? But him talking his son up as being a great prospect, like you'll find out if he is or he isn't based on his abilities. And it's no swipe on him. Like he just is the basketball player that he is. Jessica, are you over under four sneezes a day? Oh my God, way over. Sorry. I agree with, uh, with your point though, like parenting's really hard in there. And
Starting point is 00:32:32 you're, if you're a public figure, there's probably things that you would want to take back. All of my dogs IP now belongs to David Samson. I would have changed that if he go back. LeBron just didn't read the room on okay I'm the best basketball player of all time This is gonna be so much pressure on this kid if I don't say a word There's already pressure on him. He's the second best and I'm not you're just saying it was a mistake He but and I'm what am I asking for he needs to come out and apologize for his mistake
Starting point is 00:33:00 I don't know what I want here But he just clearly added to the pressure on his kid and now he's getting mad at the media For stuff that he made more than it needed understood and I understand why it is that everyone likes to blame LeBron and want him to Be more accountable at every turn But any of you as a parent if you would have made a child that harm a mistake that harm your child Would you then sit it out after that or would you try to protect your child? Because I think it's a pretty strong instinct. If your child already has the pressure of you, you've added to the pressure. He's had heart trouble and now you have to turn on the television and watch your kid get devoured for not being as great as great
Starting point is 00:33:40 a basketball. He's not getting devoured. His stock is falling like any other basketball player. I know, but what the judgment on Brani is The expectations because he's your son arrive in an unreasonable place. You make them worse even though your life path Had you being able to handle all of this at that age in an unprecedented fashion? And now you realize as the father, oh, my son might not be me. And some of the things that I want as a father, not just a father, still guys, but a father who's living the life LeBron James has lived it for 20 years,
Starting point is 00:34:16 where everything is catered to you at every turn, feeding your selfishness, supporting your selfishness, pulling you away from your kids at every turn because your life is the thing that matters the most to every human being who enters your orbit. I'd have a hard time raising a child under those circumstances and always doing the right public things that LeBron James has spent 20 years of what has been his public life since 16,
Starting point is 00:34:44 navigating this slalom course. It's amazing. Well, publicly and now asking him also do it perfectly on behalf of your son. Right. As a father, it's just a tough ask. He's going to make some mistakes. But I think we all agree that it's a difficult to ask of LeBron James. I think we all realize we would make similar mistakes to LeBron James, the ones that he is making, but don't blame a guy who's putting up a mock draft. I mean, your son should be treated like any other basketball player. But how do you-
Starting point is 00:35:10 In fact, he probably gets perks because he's LeBron's son. All fair. Now the question is, you're the dad who's made the mistake. How do you fix it? How do you fix it? Publicly, privately, how do you fix it? What's the mistake? What are we trying to fix? I don't understand. I'm adding pressure. Making LeBron James's son already had pressure to be great But when LeBron James notarizes this guy's already better than NBA players Yeah, but I think most reasonable people are like this is just a parent viewing their kid in an unrealistic light I don't think I don't think people are actually like oh my god. He's not as good as LeBron said
Starting point is 00:35:43 Let me slide them down on the mock drafts. They're just putting him where he is. They're not being mean to him. Totally fine with that. LeBron thinking that his kid is a lot better than most people do, that's fine. I mean, that's natural. And on LeBron's kids teams, I'm sure he's the,
Starting point is 00:35:58 he was the best player on most of those teams. And like how many other high school games is LeBron watching? So he's the best player LeBron has seen, but that doesn't mean he's the best player out there. If I'm LeBron, I think we go back to the AI thing. We harness the power of artificial intelligence. Intelligence.
Starting point is 00:36:14 We put out clips of Brani doing things that he's not actually doing, but we pretend that it's actually him. We get him drafted. If I'm LeBron, that's how I'm using my fame. If I'm LeBron, I start doing mock draft using my fame. That's what he should be doing. If I'm LeBron, I start doing mock drafts and I put Barani number one in every mock draft. Yeah, influencer. You gotta put him number three though.
Starting point is 00:36:32 Put him number one, it's like, oh, sell it. That's the thing, the price is right. This guy, it's like you can't guess it on the dot. You can't be putting out AI combine videos that are super impressive. They have to be like reasonably impressive. If he really wanted to do the right thing for his son, he'd buy like a foreign team overseas. It doesn't have like a good like TV deal, right? And then you start doing the AI thing.
Starting point is 00:36:54 Once you send him to USC, everybody can see him. So if you, if he's not really that good, you hide him away and you start putting out the fake videos and the fake stats because we saw on Paul Latourist finds out that that's a thing that happens. You just make up stats in the NBA and you put that out there for those of you who do not know that is a Tom Haberstrow story involving the Grizzly's statistician and Pablo Tory finds out is doing some excellent journalism there. What were the, the, what were the most amazing things you learned about the all of the fraud in the 90s?
Starting point is 00:37:27 Well, what was amazing about it is that it seemed like this was all just a marketing ploy as the Vancouver Grizzlies were a new expansion team. Their stat guy got direction from the team. Hey, Juice and stats here and there while we're at home is okay. So there was an example of, he said he was a Lakers fan and Nick Van Exel ended up in a classic game of his with 23 assists. But when you go back and look at the film, there's an example in the first play of the game
Starting point is 00:37:57 where the ball is inbounded to him and then he gives the ball to Eddie Jones and that's not on screen. And then Eddie Jones dribbles six times by himself up the court, pump fakes, hits a three, Van Exel gets the assist. So what it says is that while guys were at home, the splits on blocks, on steals, on assists,
Starting point is 00:38:15 it was all greater for those teams. So Michael Jordan, when he wins defensive player of the year, numbers are a bit juiced by the Chicago statisticians in 88. No, they're not. Okay, who are we ripping here? Who do we rip right? It's a great everyone from the 90s. I don't need to rip anyone We just that's what LeBron needs to do to be a good parent lie about your child No, but who's the fraud like who stats were inflated so much. I just want to rip someone. Who do I rip?
Starting point is 00:38:39 Stockton, maybe hmm Stockton was the example that they used a lot like yeah, you give that guy an assist He's John Stockton. I think what you want to do here, Sturga, so that you can always put yourself in positions to win. I think who you want to rip is LeBron James as a father. I think who you want to rip is LeBron James as a father. I want to do it. Hey, folks, it's Mike Ryan.
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