The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: I'm Just a Girl

Episode Date: December 7, 2023

Jim Larrañaga joins the show to discuss the Canes Basketball program, why he loves teaching, Hamilton the Musical, the evolution of basketball, and more. Then, Jessica and Lucy are late for Segment 2... and they're in HUGE trouble with Dan. That said, Jess has brought new energy to the show, and Lucy has a great excuse. Plus, Adnan Virk and David Samson are here to discuss their Top 5 War Movies, but first, David is upset with being an afterthought at this company. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big, sweet, presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants, just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries
Starting point is 00:00:33 that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Hello, Jim, How are you? I'm good. Thank you for making the time for us.
Starting point is 00:00:49 We appreciate it, sir. Jim Laranaga with us. I was thinking to myself as you came on because I'm looking at you and you've been doing this for so long and you're obviously the results are obvious, but your love for it is a thing that indoors and I don't know if you've considered retirement.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I know that you've got a contract through 2026. It seems like something you love so much that you almost could not do it. So thank you for joining us, but I wanted to ask you at this point in life, what gets you up in the morning to go to the gym because it's still the place you love the most? Yeah, my favorite time of the day, Dan, is practice. Three o'clock in the afternoon, I get to be around 18 to 22 year olds, they keep me young. I love teaching and coaching, working with them,
Starting point is 00:01:41 trying to explain to them the different ways that will help them improve and help our team improve. I'm constantly making adjustments in our practices to see if we can improve in the areas that need the most attention. And I was very happy with the last two efforts. We beat Notre Dame, held them to 49. Last night we held L.I.U. to 49. And our emphasis has been at the defensive end of the floor and it's starting to pay dividends. This seems like one of the best teams you've had
Starting point is 00:02:15 and I'll talk to you about that in a second. But I really do want to talk to you about the coaching of young men. You were listening while we were talking about how this business changes. Like I can't even imagine how dirty this game has been in the shadows for a long time. Now, more of it in the money realm is out in the open. But when you heard us talking about the business of the game, I would imagine that Jim
Starting point is 00:02:37 Leranagat some point has to feel a little bit confused by everything happening in his sport. And it makes you no less a leader. It's just like what the hell is happening here? The rules are all different. We're just going to make them all up. Okay, now we're giving these guys millions of dollars. Okay, let's do it that way. Yeah, but then the game of basketball has evolved over the years. Think about back in my day, there was no three-point shot.
Starting point is 00:03:05 So in 1986, they put in a three-point shot, you had a word just, all right? And then you had college basketball and CW tournament in arenas, maybe 20,000. Now we play in a football stadium that seats 75,000. So the game has been evolving every four or five years. It used to be one and done. I'm sorry, it used to be high school kids could go directly
Starting point is 00:03:33 to the NBA. Now it's one and done. I mean, things are constantly changing. NIL and the transfer portal have really put college athletics in turmoil. I mean, it's the wild, wild west for sure, but for me and my staff, we just keep plugging away trying to do the best we can with whatever the rules are. What do you view in your career as the most challenging of the evolutions, the one that you regard as this one gave me the most trouble, this one kept me up at night, this is the one that made me most uncomfortable,
Starting point is 00:04:09 because you must be obsessive-compulsive about your work, correct? Yes, but the thing about any job is there's always adversity, there's always difficulties to point something out and say, oh, this is more difficult. Well, you know, that depends on how you deal with it. My staff and I, we work every day planning, planning, planning. We try to teach our players, Dr. Steven Covey, seven habits of highly effective people. And the first habit is be proactive, meaning you got a plan, plan ahead. So while things were changing, we were making plans to change along with it.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Are you a life coach? Oh, absolutely. I spent, here's a good example. My players most of them have never been to a Broadway show and tomorrow tomorrow we leave for New York. We're playing Colorado in Brooklyn at the Barclays Center and Saturday night we'll be taking the players to Hamilton and today I will be explaining to them who Alexander Hamilton is why his best friend was george washington why aron burshot alexy and a hamilton boiler there and why we we we thought the revolutionary war and why there's a united states of america i'm sure they'll enjoy it more than when you tell the story uh... the the reveal i think will be uh... cool to them. But you got to be- You also wrap this lesson.
Starting point is 00:05:46 You, uh, it's interesting, though, you, you got a big smile on your face because somewhere around the business of this, like, uh, the joys of teaching are what move you, I gather. Exactly. My high school coach was the reason and inspiration that I got into coaching. I love learning from him, listening to him. He was always telling me stories, you know, sometimes about basketball, sometimes just about life. He was the most highly network guy that I knew growing up. He knew everybody. In fact, how crazy it was, my father in 1993 was diagnosed with cancer. My mom called me. I was living in Bowling, Green, Ohio. I hadn't lived in New York in well over 20 years. And she said to me, I need a doctor for your dad.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Well, who do you think about calling? Well, I call my high school coach and said, what do I do to help my father? And he said, don't worry, I'll take care of it. I'll get the doctor and he did within a day. My father was at Sloan Kettering, working with the best oncologist. So my high school coach was a great role model for me
Starting point is 00:07:03 and I've tried to emulate him. Coach, I want to talk to you about one of your strong suits, which has always been player development. We've seen how far a player like WUGA, who was left alone in the elite eight against Kansas, and now he's turned himself with your coaching into a player that's talked about as a lottery pick, but I want to specifically talk about Norchad O'Mir, who had options this off season, has a bit of a tweener body, is built like nobody in this program has ever been built outside of Jimmy Graham.
Starting point is 00:07:32 And he's always had a nice touch, but he's developed a more consistent three-point shot, and you seem to be giving him a green light. How much of your off season outlook is, I got to do what's best for the team but also norchette to get to this next level i'm gonna help you in those ways help the team but also help you in your next phase yeah well you must have been watching us pretty closely because i'm glad every game coach
Starting point is 00:07:57 cocaine so here's what happens less less spring norchette's in stand with me and and his high school coaches advising's advising him. And Norshad says he wants to try out with the NBA and test the waters. So I said, well, who's your agent? And he said, well, I don't want an agent. I want you to set up a tryouts for me. So I did.
Starting point is 00:08:18 I worked with him to try to get him exposure. And then I talked to all the NBA guys when Norshad pulled his name out. I asked them what are the things you feel like he needs to do to better position himself to play in the NBA. They said develop his three-point shot in his ball handling. So we immediately went to work on him actually rebounding the ball and dribbling it himself pushing it in transition if you watch his play closely enough You'll see it's not every time he outlets the ball plenty, but it'll also handle the ball a lot more And then we worked on his three point shot and he spent a ton of time developing it He's now shooting right around 40% from three. He's in the 80%ile in free throws
Starting point is 00:09:06 So his shooting has improved his ball handling has improved and he's still a monster on the glass Have you had a player that physically strong? Yes, I've actually had a number of guys over the course of night my career. I mean he's He's like a Greek God. His body is incredible. But he's also like the nicest human being off the court. He's got all the best qualities, the best personality that a person can have. He's a tremendous competitor on the court and a very nice person off the court. Did you just say of Mike Ryan though, that in his face, did you just say if you've been
Starting point is 00:09:50 watching us closely or are you not aware of just how closely Mike Ryan, you know, he gave me credit, he gave me credit on the top and he's like, you must be watching closely. Well, this is what this is the reason you ask questions at this point, right? So that somebody can tell you, yes, you've been watching as well as me. Yes, but well, because you care about this team deeply, you came in here today raving about beating up Rod Strickland by 50. You're invested in this team.
Starting point is 00:10:14 You care deeply about this team and you think, now that you've gotten a taste of the elite eight and final four, you think this team could be the best team. And Jim needs to know that. Coach, we're blue blood. You have us building every year by year a lead eight final four We had a tough break that Loyola stole our final four Bruce Brown and Lonnie Walker We're going to the final four that year you've been here. We had to remind ourselves you've been here for 13 years When people look back at your storied career
Starting point is 00:10:41 This may be the program that you're associated with and that's crazy considering you took George Mason to a final four. I thought he was coming here to retire. I criticized him on an air for coming here to retire. But no, you got plenty of life in you and you're building something special. And I'm sure it warms your heart coach to see what's happening there, especially on weekend spotlight games. You know what that student section you so look like. I know what that student section you so look like.
Starting point is 00:11:04 You're building a basketball culture here and there is no reason why the Watts go shouldn't be 10 20 years down the line looked at as one of the prestigious Places in college basketball you're building something that special Well, I agree with you there When my staff and I first came in 2011 I said we not only want to have a good team but we want to have a great program. We want to build tradition and develop a program that consistently competes with the top teams in the ACC and in the nation. And we've been able to do that over a short period of time. But we're still
Starting point is 00:11:46 well behind the blue bloods like Kansas and Carolina and Duke and Kentucky. We need in our recruiting to be able to get some of the very best talent. More money. You mentioned more money. More money. More money. More money. More money. Come on Jim. Let's do an info commercial. Hey, Miami. He needs more money. Jim Leranagan needs more money more money come on Jim let's do an info-mercial hey Miami he needs more money Jim Leranagan needs more money in recruiting we need more money Miami Jim you know how hard it is to build a business in Miami Jim that nobody's made that program work the way that you have I think we need to do an info-mercial together right now hey Miami we need more money we got to keep these players paid so that coach can take them to Hamilton.
Starting point is 00:12:34 Well, here's what I would say about that. My staff knows that there are certain players. I don't want to coach because they're high maintenance. They're kids that think only of themselves. We're constantly looking at kids who are very team oriented, who are very competitive, who really understand the game of basketball, who come here for all the right reasons. They want to get a great education. They want to live in this kind of beautiful environment. They want to compete in the ACC against the best players in the country. And of course, they want to play after they played in college, they want best players in the country. And of course, they wanna play after they played in college, they wanna get to the NBA.
Starting point is 00:13:08 And we wanna prepare for that. You used Woga Poplar as an example. He's a perfect example of a young man who came here. He's physically gifted, but he had to learn to play the college game. And while he's playing the college game, we're working with him on his skills to become an NBA player and if you see what he's doing now he's going to
Starting point is 00:13:31 be probably a lottery pick at the end of this season if he chooses to go pro. Look at Mike Mike's got the self-summer saying he's got the self-satisfied look. You're an alumnus from the University of Miami. What can you do to help better this program i know your friends with carlos boozard get on that text right now we need to help build this program i i think i think the i i'm not a college basketball insider but i think the boozard kids are gonna betray their old man and strike out on their own but i'm not an insider i'm just I'm speculating
Starting point is 00:14:05 your mouth God's ears. Jim thank you for being on with us. We appreciate it sir. My pleasure fellas. Don Lebertard. Were you guys building out the a rod bathroom of your imaginations? Is that what I heard you discussing during the break? Towels with an A on them. You know the thing you slide the toilet paper on? That's a baseball bat. You know the thing you slide the toilet paper on that's a baseball bat. Hey, like that. Stugats. You think he actually calls it the throne? Probably does.
Starting point is 00:14:32 It's an actual throne. An actual throne? There's got to be a full length mirror in there somewhere. I imagine somewhere in his house he has a replica of David, but with his head on it. This is the Don Limita show with this two-gats. Let's start this segment without Jess and Lucy. Let's just start this. Mike, I hear marshmallow ass in here.
Starting point is 00:14:56 Yes, this is what it's like. This is what it's like trying to run a place that has a bunch of creative people in it. That's Jessica and Lucy. I gave 15 minutes. They're on minute 25. What is happening? Oh, Chris, you can speak to in the executive producer role. You can speak through the difficulties and rounding this crew and just
Starting point is 00:15:15 getting everybody to sit in their seats to do the God damn show from inside the pen. You give it an inch. They take a mile. When they walk in here, let's give them the salad treatment. And then you just start with a, because they are in trouble. Well, give them the Salon treatment and then you just start with a Because they are in trouble. Well, they're not gonna know they're on air though So you got to be careful because they they're gonna be in legitimate trouble and then they don't know they're on air
Starting point is 00:15:33 And they might say two things that are a little too honest and instead of therapy couch You're gonna hear some things you don't want to hear Yeah, so I already heard the excuses in my air. They're stuck in an elevator Which immediately made me feel bad But I'm like how likely is that and it's turned into already. They're waiting for an elevator So no, what's happened is they're late. Are they by the pool that they go to the gym area? Look man they Winter in Miami is lovely. This is this is as good as it gets because it's 60 degrees and I I would not
Starting point is 00:16:04 Blame Lucy and Jessica who have been smothered by our heat. They don't, I don't know, man, our people are not very nice. This is not a friendly town. This is a very unfriendly town. If they thought that before, wait till a couple of minutes from now when they walk in this studio.
Starting point is 00:16:18 We already, we're already setting up the shot to just stare at them. Like the video camera. So I think we just go silent when they're about to walk in and we stare. We'll tell the audience are here they are. We're going quite anew. So I think we just go silent when they're about to walk in and we stare. We'll tell the audience, are here they are. We're going quite anew. So that, we're going to make it obvious
Starting point is 00:16:29 so that they're on the air because I believe we will cause a problem. If they come in and we're yelling at them because they're late to start a segment and Mike's doing the dictator stuff that might not let them know that they're not on air. I'm not being a dictator. I think I'm being very fair.
Starting point is 00:16:43 I've given, I mean, a 15 minute break is quite nice. Not a lot of people have that in their workplace. I feel taken advantage of right now. We have to create content. There are deliverables here. We have to send content to our partners over at DKN in a certain window and they're standing in the way of that. Like we can't do it now.
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Starting point is 00:17:51 Jeremy has an Emmy in his hand. He was here on time. Not really. He wasn't on the list though. He was also late. Did Big Game Boomer give you the Emmy? What is that drink that you have? Moncha.
Starting point is 00:18:02 Billy Lewis and I have done, tricep workouts in 15 minutes and I'm back here. Not that it's really done much for me, but we've still done it. You guys have explained a lot that your triceps are 15 minutes. I don't have a lot of time. You guys make me do a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:18:15 Stop being mean to everyone. Stop being mean to lose. You don't get to turn this around on me. I am a problem. Yeah, okay, I'm the bad guy because I give 15 minute breaks that you turn into 25 I want to was it a long line did it take a while to get your order?
Starting point is 00:18:28 It was the elevator time telling you you know you can walk up the stairs from no actually I didn't know that Yeah, you show me where the stairs are the second elevator that would actually help a lot yes They're elevators there at the right next to the elevator the stairs Does anyone else do the thing where it's like I walk up three flights of stairs every day? That's my exercise. I look at it like, when I take the bright line, there's always a cavalcade of people taking the escalator because it's a good, like, the equivalent of three stories
Starting point is 00:18:54 I'd say to get from the ground level to where the train is, I walk up the stairs. And I just say, this is it. This is my, I'm being, like, I'm gonna, that's the decision I'm making today. I'm gonna not take the elevator escalator. I'm going to walk up. Sometimes I go every other step to get the extra burn.
Starting point is 00:19:10 When I lived in New York, I lived on the fifth floor and the fourth floor back to back years. And I have never been in better shape in my entire life. Because every day, I'd have to carry groceries up the stairs. I felt like I was a weight lifter. I'd carry my luggage up and down the stairs all the time. It was the best workout of my life and I never had to do anything else. That was a weightlifter. I carry my luggage up and down the stairs all the time. It was the best workout of my life, and I never had to do anything else.
Starting point is 00:19:27 That was my weight. The problem is I do the train about twice a month. Yep. Well, it's a, it's, it's, that we should do a fitness commercial for you on what it is that you do and your training regimen and you too can have a body like this. If you just follow these three easy literal steps.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Here's the thing, here's what happened. This is three steps. I love the Elser. Like I really do. This place is great, it's beautiful. The fatal flaw of the Elser is that when you're going through the lobby, you have to go outside of the,
Starting point is 00:19:59 there's two ginormous elevator banks. You have to go outside, scan your thing, you go to the floor. So Lucy and I screwed up We got on actually the guy might have just bought he might have hit the wrong floor because he he let us up He might have hit the wrong the wrong so we got out on the wrong floor And we had to go all the way out of the bank We had to go around the corn and then we were like oh my god run the wrong run a different level and we're in the
Starting point is 00:20:19 We are the time matter out. Yes. I look and slack. I wrote in slack. Lucy and I are stuck in the elevator Also, there's a ton of people here. There's a ton of people here today. There's a billion people You were stuck in an elevator. No, we were just like walking around the elevator brings for like 10 minutes because we had to go out You were stuck in an elevator. No, like I said we were stuck waiting for the elevator I did just have it Let's yes, yes, she is let's let's encamp in this for a second. Wait, you have it. All right. Let's yes. Yes. She is. Let's let's encamp in this for a second. Wait, you are revving. You are revving a little bit. So I do want to ask this question.
Starting point is 00:20:51 There was a sentence sentence in there that was the fastest sentence I've ever heard. Yes. The the the coverage has gotten very fast around here. Mina Kimes is talking at a high rate of speed. There were feet around Lucy's head the other day. And we were making her talking at a high rate of speed there were feed around lucis head the other day and we were making her talk at a high rate of speed but i genuinely want uh input here and i genuinely want to understand better because she sent this a tent hold on we have on the tv right now the slack message i was sent a ten seventeen just like you guys know we were safe thanks for being worried by the way back at 10 10 you guys don't even care that we are gone for so long
Starting point is 00:21:28 You know and call and ask are you guys okay? You guys are all out there by yourself on the me We don't start for you. We just aired plenty. We just kept saying content I Have a lot of blind spots. I do they've been revealed to me more and more over the last three years Well, I funny you should say that because the Clevelander is in my rear view mirror. Lucy, you're just letting just do all the talking for you. I'm the 24th best college football personality. According to Big Game Boomer, I don't think I need to defend myself.
Starting point is 00:21:58 Stop yelling at Lucy. She didn't do anything wrong. I've never done anything wrong. You're just standing idly by while Big Sister takes the fall. I came in instead it was my fault. I need your help. It's not good enough. You have to make content. You have to lie and say it's someone else's fault Lucy. God. Can't believe I have to explain this to you. Jessica and Lucy, I genuinely need your help here because a few years ago and Jessica, you know how unions work. You are for employee rights. I had a friend who had a business and he was saying that his youngest and quote unquote laziest employees were the ones that were unionizing on him. Now that sounds like a big game boom or five ever heard one.
Starting point is 00:22:42 And what I wanted to ask you though is because I wondered to myself when he asked me that, I wondered, well, is that you getting older, is that that young people are gonna change the way the workplace ought to be? This is a content place where Mike Ryan is cracking a whip getting us in here, every 15 minutes and stuff, and because that's the job,
Starting point is 00:23:03 we've got to produce a bunch of content we've got draft kings is a very they've been a very good partner during a difficult time in the media escape They've been an exceptional partner and we've got to get them these things at this time every day or making more than anybody else makes I think we just made fifteen minutes of content by being late actually damn, Dan. I do not rationalize this. We could have had a conversation about Diddy, all right? And instead, we had a conversation about you being late. Why don't you have Danny Cannell, number 25, come in here and do it then.
Starting point is 00:23:35 What should the rules be? What, because it sucks to have a bunch of rules and rigidities around trying to make stuff. And one thing I yell more than anything in that room is running back in here, no time for human interaction. There isn't, because we have to hit all the notes. We have guests coming up next and it's Thursday. And you know what that means.
Starting point is 00:23:56 Means I don't have someone sitting in that seat to hit it. So I'm gonna get up from my chair right now and make cocaine you just do the Thursday thunder. Just give me a second. Also the rules should be, sometimes people are late, and it's the Elser's fault. Whoa. I'm just a girl, okay.
Starting point is 00:24:09 I'm just doing the best I can. I got my mod charm in a better mood now. Everyone needs to calm down. I am just a girl. I, I, I, I, Thursday thunder, presented by a drafting sports book, Mike. Oh, thunder, yes. We're doing it. Thursday Thunder presented by a draft King sports book Mike Thunder yes, we're doing it It's the game of the century tonight Mike and then the only
Starting point is 00:24:32 Seven point sport by either team who's to say we have a hell of a parlay. It's disgusting We're gonna start with Mitch Trimitz Pitcher's dealer starting quarterback, under 180 yards. Hats. Thunder, thunder, thunder. We also have on our second leg of the Parlay TJWAT. I think he's going to get a sack tonight. Plus 0.75 sacks for TJWAT, one of the best defensive players in the league.
Starting point is 00:25:01 And finally, we're going to take a Zekiel Elliott with the under in rushing yards and 60 there we go Scary it's also very cold out today Maybe a storm's a brewing 60 rushing yards under I don't There's a thunder's brought to you by draft King sports book You can follow this parlay on draft King sports book app What kind of advertisement is that for the game? If all of the shows everywhere, info-mursals for what's coming up next. Color Rush.
Starting point is 00:25:29 Yes, yes. Shhh. They haven't done Color Rush in a while. I think it's the throwback, you know. I'm telling you, there's something nice about placing a bed and not watching the game. I love a good, just check the phone about halfway through CWARAT.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I'll tune in late if it's close, but I like just making a bet and checking in on it. Me and I, and that has this game written all over. That's true. I will be watching it. Me and my besties for the prime time games, we've been doing a group parlay every week.
Starting point is 00:25:54 And if we win, we will do a very nice fancy dinner the next time they're in Miami. Bringing the whole friend group together, Dano. Hopefully they don't count on you to show up on time. Or to make the parlay's. Oh, I'm not good at that. No, so, except this one. Woo!
Starting point is 00:26:09 No, I just shh. I, this is not the best. I believe, this is the problem. It's windy in here. Do you realize that all around us at DraftKings Network, you have touts who know what they're talking about and are taking these games seriously and giving a lot of information.
Starting point is 00:26:28 And we are making these bets and they're sloppy and you're telling people, I'm not going to watch the game and you accompany it with, you know what my expertise is, I couldn't get over to those buttons so I'm going to make a thunder sound poorly and I'm going to try and join you to help out and I'm not confident around the thunder sound. Oh no one's had a better segment than Lucy just reiterating time and time again she's number 24 and just a girl I'm just a girl I don't know what you guys expect from me down lebertard I did not propose in a hot air balloon but I did go on a hot
Starting point is 00:27:02 air balloon trip a ride in San Francisco, Northern California, on my honeymoon we got stuck in a tree. And I haven't been back since, I mean, to the entire area, by the way. Stugats! You just avoided the entire... Not just the tree, not just hot air balloons, you've avoided the entire west coast. This is the Dalabatar show with the Stugats! the entire West Coast. This is the Dalai Batar show with the Stugats. Someone DM me the other day.
Starting point is 00:27:29 Sure hope you'd be okay with Mike Ryan calling you his daughter in the presence of your probably hot mom because you know, a quality something to fly. I was like, my mom says, thank you. I thought we should put a golden bachelor together for Mike Ryan's dad. He was so handsome, but it's been scrubbed from the internet. Yeah, it's weird how that happened. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:51 My dad was texting me and my wife was texting me, well, we want to, Julia wants to see Abu and your dad's bothering me about where to find it on the internet. I'm like, I don't know what disappeared and that's not usually how things happen. Weird, I'll send an email. We have to figure out how to create a podcast segment Let's find Mike's mom. We have to figure out how to do that David Samson and Adnan Burke are no don't do that took a dark turn David Samson nothing personal from a year old with one I can walk you there if you'd like
Starting point is 00:28:23 Call you a boo though a boo once in a boo. That's what I called my grandfather's that that's a yeah Well, my dad was born in Havana. So some traditions day Adnan Burke has a very good guest on Cine file. I was told David is here. Look at him. Look at him gloating He sees look how happy he is over there Go ahead Adnan tell the people what what on Cinefile and how you got a big name guest. Dan, he may only be the biggest stand-up comedian in the world right now. Sebastian Manis Galco, not on nothing personal, not on the day of Levittar's show, but somehow some way
Starting point is 00:28:55 on Cinefile. And my understanding is that, listen, David's podcast is doing very well numbers wise. The Levittar's show is enormously popular. But Sebastian said, you know what? I want to pick the litter. I want someone who sees things the way I see things. I want someone to appreciate cinema the way I do to promote my show bookie on Max. I'm taking vrk. So 30 minutes of Manus Gehalko is we talked the Irishman. We talked about my father, not my father but Robert De Niro that fell me was in. It was amazing. Samson, you're going to love it. David. Do you have a booking agent? Yes. I was gonna play the fifth, but yes, I do, David. What are you doing?
Starting point is 00:29:32 David, what are you doing? No, we're under the middle arc medium. I'm sure the art talent booker can help you as well. You're telling me you haven't, no one's reached out to us for us. Well, no, no. Okay, that's what I'm telling you. Well, no, look, all right, let me say something here on behalf of David Timson, who the porn guy is busting his ass
Starting point is 00:29:51 and there is so little gratitude around what's happening right now. I saw the press release yesterday. This is almost too unbelievable to believe. I saw the press release yesterday for all the smoke and levitator and friends network and I just see a text from David, hey, did you guys purposely omit my name from the press release? And no, it wasn't purposeful.
Starting point is 00:30:15 It was an afterthought. And now you're here on CineFile and you're saying that you're getting a guest and David doesn't even know that we've got a guest booking agency helping us with that. David continue to get disrespected in a way that's now starting to make me really uncomfortable. It's actually a contractual provision in our deal that there is a booker who metal our calves who would be booking for Samson sit-downs and I have been told that the booking people are not available to help for nothing personal. So it's fine. I use my roletex when I can, but Adnan comes on here, you know, hoity toity talking about all these guests in Pablo Torrey.
Starting point is 00:30:53 God knows how I mean, Larsa Pippen. David, this is what you think of the guests that we have. By the way, you just saw the holdovers as did I. Look at this. I got this. I got this soap sent to me with like saying some of the holdovers snarling viscose genuine troglot dyes, rancid phillosteans. That's what he thinks of metal arc media, everybody.
Starting point is 00:31:12 That's the same as the things the holdovers now in theaters. You have to show the free swag that you get from all the movies that I love watching review that somehow you're on a mailing list like LL bean. My show screenplay, if you want to check it out, excellent screenplay to read, Bradley Keefertz really got sent to me as well, really good stuff there. Please stop. I got a Cock Christmas card sent to me
Starting point is 00:31:33 from the Holdovers, Alexander Payne. You reviewed the Holdovers in a cinephile episode. I'm very curious to know your thoughts on that because I've been very interested in this movie just from the ad campaign. It's a throwback ad campaign with an actual voice explaining the trailer as it's happening. I was a big fan of how it was being marketed. What is Samson laughing about?
Starting point is 00:31:52 What Samson? What's the matter? I did a seven minute review on nothing personal. Mike of the whole top. So he needs my review. Mike, I love her ad man. It's fantastic. He has so point.
Starting point is 00:32:07 It's set the 70s and they want to get that 70s vibes. You're right, the trailer was mimicking what you'd expected of a character driven movie from that era. Master Class from GMOD, resounding return of form for Alexander Payne after the misstep of downsizing. You know what a great filmmaker he is, not just sideways, but the descendants and elections. So it's a terrific film terrific film Mike you love it, but I'm sure the seven minutes of Samson did was much better in fairness David your thoughts on the film three seconds or less I Like it
Starting point is 00:32:36 All right, let's do top five I'm just shocked I'm shocked I could have been way more than that in seven seconds Can we discuss for a second? Can we discuss for a second that Jessica and Lucy had no idea who Sebastian Maniscalco is? Oh. I'm just like, I get it. You might not be a big fan, but just they were like, who is this person? Looked him up, never seen him before.
Starting point is 00:33:00 He's not for us. Not the young people. He a big game boomer? Big game boomer. He's not on the list. A lot of my wife stuff. I know that was Borat not him He didn't want to do Italian so he just did the non offensive that's exactly what happened Borat also offensive Play around with it. Um you guys I need your help with something because David's discontent is not a joke like he launched the merch store here Unpopularly earlier this week. You can still get discounts. Samson sucks 20 is the
Starting point is 00:33:35 Code it's levitard AF calm and it's a 20% discount Twenty what 20% 20% discount. Excuse me But you can also buy 20 shirts, but Samson, the disrespect is real. I'm beginning to feel bad for you. It is not intentional. You know, good and well, it's not intentional. When you text me, both at 3 a.m. and 804 a.m. I view that as intentional. You're taking that we are disrespecting you as a company again and again by just purposefully neglecting you and and not neglecting Pablo Torrey, for example, in New York. Well, I would just say that you're in violation of the contract is what I would say.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah, I can direct you to send your emails to and they would probably be ignored. That's how that one happens, isn't it? What is the list you guys are doing today, David? So today is December 7th and it's Pearl Harbor Day. And so we wanted to do a top five list of war or war related movies. And Adnan, how are you feeling about your list? Because we were talking and hear the other day about done clerk for some reason i feel that film of that scale i i just don't know how you can't be impressed by
Starting point is 00:34:52 that movie if you don't like that movie just to see something that grandios uh... but how uh... adnan how is your list likely to differ from david i think minds is just better than and uh... more current and I think it's something that will hit hit a little harder without even knowing my list. Is that just your default? You have that written in your notes of your phone? What to say about David's list Thursdays? No, I've just resolutely confident David my
Starting point is 00:35:18 list will be better than yours. That's just how it goes. Number five. Number five David, go ahead. Three Kings. Three Kings is a 1999 movie by David O'Rossal with George Clooney as they try to get gold that was stolen during the Persian Gulf War. Mark Wahlberg's in it, ice cubes in it. It really is outstanding, both in humor and in seriousness. That's why it's my number five. That's a good track. Definitely a good movie. A little under the radar. I like it's great. Yeah, I like that movie. Number four. Lord of war. Also a good choice. Lord of war is a Nicholas Cage and it's come back to the forefront just recently because the Lord of War is the guy who we exchanged for Brittany Griner. That's a little side note.
Starting point is 00:36:06 Tom Brady's ex-wife is in the movie bridge at Moynihan, as well as Jared Lito. Outstanding performances all the way around and what this guy did and how we are all implicated in global war would shock you. It's pretty much like a little other than that. Pretty good. Number three. In glorious bastards. If only this had been how it ended, Quentin Tarantino, Brad Pitt, it is a movie that is often overlooked, I think, with the performance that is the greatest, potentially
Starting point is 00:36:40 supporting actor performance in the history of movies. Maybe the greatest start to any movie ever made. It makes my list at number three. In your review, you pointed out the flaw of the movie, which is that it's never as great as that first scene. The first scene's outstanding, David. It couldn't agree the more. It's perfect in terms of the economy of scale, the dialogue, the directing, the reveal that they're in the basement.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Of course, Pristoff, Waltz, or Ringmilk. But after that, I don't think the rest of the film is nearly as sharp as that opening. I think it's a little bloated, I think it's a little self-indulgent. Mike's heard my criticisms of Tarantino before. I don't think it's overlooked. I think it's looked where it should be,
Starting point is 00:37:14 which is it's good. It's not great. It's certainly not the number three best work film of all time. Number two, Shenler's List. BELL RINGS It's not uplifting, and I will say that've watched Shinnler's List only one time because I didn't want to watch it a second time, but it's a movie that especially in this day
Starting point is 00:37:32 and age everybody should watch because it is true that not everybody is anti-Semitic. Shinnler's List with Liam Neeson before he was this crazy action hero he played the starring role in this maybe the most important movie Spielberg ever made I'm not gonna lock Shiloh's list Ray Fines is great to you could be very It's a good list. No, it's a good list the whole so far you don't stumble here David so far your list is fine Like I know objectionable things on your list but number number one The greatest war movie I've ever seen and I don't think it'll ever change is saving private Ryan You know what? Well
Starting point is 00:38:18 And let's see and then let's see what you. Her tradition, and then has 90 seconds on the clock to give his full five. I'm a little flimaxed by the standing ovation there by the shipping containers. There we go. Number five is the film that I think is better than saving Private Ryan came up the same year. Maybe it's a little more esoteric,
Starting point is 00:38:36 but it's the thin red line. Brave film from Terrence Malik, incredible cat, Sean Penn, Nick Nolte, saving Private Ryan is notable, but thin red line was beautiful and poetic. Malik, incredible cast, Sean Penn, Nick Nolte, saving Private Ryan certainly is notable, but Thin Red Line was beautiful and poetic. Number four, good morning, Vietnam! Robert Williams rocking from the Delta of the DMC, he's never been better in this film, Barry Levinson, also some drama for a swindler as well, really funny movie. Number three, I mean, they went right into the heart of the jungle,
Starting point is 00:39:03 Francis Ford Coppola. Apocalypse now. Live of all three sequence. Incredible. That helicopter assault. Unforgettable. Number two, it's the greatest war film of all time. Arguably Oliver Stone's platoon. And number one, since Amin El Hasen was really offended that David and I didn't give this movie enough level. We both had it in our top five Ben Stiller movies. The number one war or war related movie is drop it fun. I'm better than I am.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I'm better than I am. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's why you get the prime guess. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:41 Later. Just want to point out, money ball could be considered a war movie because when's above a place where we leave. Get out. Get out. I'm not going to be a little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more little bit more his head. See you later. Could have said a league of their own also. Jess had a lot of things go over his head. Oh come on a short joke Mike. Seriously. It wasn't me. It was Jess and Lucy. That's Lucy. I'm just a girl David. And you're not allowed to be me because I'm just a girl. Vids. And you're not allowed to be me. Or jokes.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Because I'm just a girl.

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