The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Meadowlark Media's WNBA Dibs Fantasy Draft
Episode Date: May 10, 2024Chris Cote may have to give a best man speech in the near future which leads us to learning about the recent awful commencement speech at Ohio State. Then, we learn about last night's saga surrounding... a new WNBA Fantasy League at Meadowlark Media that was created by Rose, started with calling dibs on first round picks, and ended with JuJu taking advantage of total disarray. Plus, Mandy Moore gives us another reason to accept that Taylor is having a moment, Roy delivers his Top 5 Knots, and we listen to Stugotz's commencement speech from his School of Fraudcasting. Also, how is Roy so calm about the Panthers game tonight? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Welcome to the big suey
Presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show the podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBataard podcast
I'm sorry. I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
I have been tempted in restaurants
just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries
that if they're just there.
That hasn't happened to you guys?
I've done it.
And now here's the marching man to nowhere,
fat face and the habitual liar.
Segway, you were discussing doing a commencement speech
at one point for your school, Clark University, correct?
They never asked, yeah.
But you wrote it, didn't you?
I started it, Stanzyk wrote it.
You know what I'm just realizing,
and this is just something that I'm noticing on our end,
you also promised Austin Eckler
that you're gonna write him a best man speech.
And he's getting married like, soon.
Like this week or next week I think.
He's coming on next week.
No he's not.
Yes he is.
He's not coming on next week.
For the speech.
You're invited to the wedding by the way.
Billy's invited to Austin Eckler's wedding.
No I'm not invited to his wedding.
I believe you are.
Let me explain to you how wedding invitations work.
You get invited. I was not. So I'm not invited to his me explain to you how wedding invitations work. You get invited, I was not,
so I'm not invited to his wedding.
That's how wedding invitations work.
Did Stu get one?
You're my, no.
Billy's my plus one.
But you didn't get one.
I got one.
My brother actually just got engaged.
Really?
Oh my gosh.
I actually.
Wow, that's shocking.
He hasn't asked me yet, I'm just assuming.
But I have, in my future, I have to start thinking
about writing a speech.
Well, he hasn't asked you.
He'll ask me.
He doesn't have a date.
I asked him, like, I don't know if they're my friends.
Yes, Greg.
A bit presumptuous of you.
What are the other options, do you think?
If it's not you, who would it be?
He's got friends, but I chose him.
It's just what you do.
He's gonna pick me, look.
I don't even need to debate it.
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.
End of discussion?
End of discussion.
Oh, damn, I was gonna say,
because you chose him, he should chose you.
Choose, yeah.
Yeah, that's how it works.
I don't know about that.
Well, if you have one sibling that you're pretty close,
I mean, me and my sister are kind of the same way.
Like, I was her maid of honor,
and every time we talk on the phone,
and another one of my girlfriends is in the vicinity,
my sister will blurt out,
I'll be your maid of honor when you get married, right?
Because she's like threatened, and I'm like, yes, Deb.
Like I'm not getting married.
And if you have a good amount of friends,
it actually takes the pressure off of you.
Well, not if.
I'm the easy choice.
Like I have to choose my brother here,
even though I have close friends.
Joey.
No, that's my friend.
Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.
You had to choose your brother even though you had Joey.
Yeah, I would have, yeah, you know.
Well, here's the thing though.
I don't wanna hurt Joey's feelings.
Has anyone else asked your brother to be their best man?
Because then he has to return the favor to two people.
It's an obligation, yeah.
No, he's been in some weddings, but never the best man.
So the pressure's on.
He's like me, we're in a lot of weddings,
but we're never the number one friend.
I don't wanna be in the wedding party.
We're like seven people's third best friend.
Always the best friend, never the groom.
Ron's metal over here.
Are you insulted if you're not
in the wedding party, but you know you're supposed
to be in the wedding party?
It's a hassle, I don't wanna be in the wedding party.
No, I wanna be in it.
I don't wanna deal with pictures,
I don't wanna deal with anything, I just wanna drink.
It depends too, like if it's like a really close friend
and your feelings are hurt, like sure,
but it really is such a ordeal, and it's so much time
and effort and energy and money that sometimes
it's a relief to be like whoo I could just show
Up at six o'clock have a cocktail watch the wedding dance go home
I have to do shit the pictures suck the only part about being in a wedding that stinks is
Missing cocktail hour for pictures if you do pre pictures, then you're kind of good, but that's the only bad part to me
It's a status symbol. I like being in the way. There's an obligation to be on good behavior
There's just too many obligations. You gotta have one crazy guy in the wedding you know I used to be
You used to be the crazy guy
It is you if you don't know you're the crazy guy
I'm telling you I've toned it down at weddings really said this before in my early 20s
I was the first guy out on the dance floor nowadays
I'm just you know I'm Will Smith and hitch first on the outside to it. I'm on the outside
Oh, I just watching the dance floor,
letting all the kids have fun.
It's not my game anymore.
It's not my game anymore.
Actual kids or the 20 somethings.
Really?
The kids like Lucy.
You're calling, okay.
But I feel like you look at them and you're like.
Oh I wanna be out there.
I could show them.
I mean.
I've still got it.
So what's holding you back?
Not enough alcohol probably.
Really?
There is?
Open bar, there's enough. It's free. That's another thing. But it doesn alcohol probably. There is. What?
Open bar, there's enough.
It's free.
But it doesn't hit the same, right Chris?
It doesn't.
It's like, it's gotta, you know,
you get more discerning.
I feel like once you've been to 15 weddings,
you just, you reach a point of weddings
where it's like, all right.
At peaks?
Yeah.
Where it's just like, these aren't,
I love them, but they're just not as fun.
But I would argue.
They're a hassle.
I would argue though,
there's also like a wedding window, right?
Where like a lot of people are getting married
at the same time.
Yeah.
I'm in the window.
That's when you're peaking, right?
But like Chris, you're on the back end of that.
Way back.
Yeah, so then you can.
Now I might get one wedding a year.
I know, but that's why you need to make every wedding count.
And you need to bring back that Chris
for all those weddings.
People are expecting it.
In fact, I would say that if your brother is asking you to be the best man
He's expecting you to be the crazy one. Yes, and maybe here's the thing
He's not sure because of the way you've been behaving at past weddings if you still got it
Oh, and maybe he needs his best man to be the crazy one. I'll text him right now. I still got it
There's a movie no context no context. I still got it. There's a movie in here somewhere. No context. No context, I still got it.
There's a movie in here somewhere, One Last Wedding.
Chris, you can do it.
But I think you have to show him on the front end
that you can still do it.
No, but this is a cycle.
You've reached the part where weddings,
you just hate them now.
Yes.
I'm in the part where-
I feel like that movie is the hangover.
I don't dislike going to weddings anymore,
but I'm just kind of over being excited about them.
When you're in your 20s, you're super excited about them.
Like that, it's all a natural part of life,
what's happening here.
I want to close the loop on something,
or maybe close it and then reopen a different loop.
What the hell are you going to write
in a commencement address, Stu Gatz?
What is your speech going to be?
I think we have one from an old, if you could find it.
So you're just going to use an old one?
I don't know how to answer that. It just changes them. Are you gonna be like the state guy who was like on ayahuasca or whatever?
I had a great one for the Stugat school of broadcasting. You can find that one. It's great. It's really funny
What happened at Ohio State? So much happened at Ohio State. So Ohio State's graduation
They had some like Bitcoin crypto guy be their commencement speaker.
He wrote the entire like speech on Ayahuasca. He was having the crowd sing.
Also, somebody died at this ceremony before it happened. So vibes were already there. They were not great.
He comes out. He's singing Little Light of Mine and trying to get the crowd into it.
Wait, we have video? I think there's video somewhere. Great investors are
open-minded and understand things before other people. So I know this might feel
polarizing but I encourage you to keep an open mind right now. I see Bitcoin as
a very misunderstood asset class.
It's decentralized.
He admitted to when he was asked to being the commencement speaker of not responding because he thought it was a prank.
He didn't think they seriously asked him.
Hold on a second.
So this guy went out there and he tried to sell people
on Bitcoin while he's supposed to be giving
a commencement speech?
And he sang songs.
He got booed by 70,000 Ohio State fans.
And apparently, I read that the president of Ohio State,
there's like a commencement speaker advisory board
and they recommend names and they will like,
go listen to old YouTube videos of like, different speaker advisory board and they recommend names and they will like go listen
to old YouTube videos of like different celebrities
and politicians and stuff doing speeches to see who's good
and who's bad and then they'll make a list
and give it to the president and the president was like,
nope, I'm gonna have this guy.
They also said that Kirk Herbstreet is on that list
every year but that the people who pick are like,
we don't know who this guy is.
We have no clue who Kirk Herbstreet is.
He just got str straight for no reason.
Let me ask you guys a question.
You guys went to like big schools, right?
So are your graduations, because like at FIU,
where I went, there's multiple ceremonies, right?
So like there's by different schools
and the like kind of group of bunch of schools together.
So like in a given graduation period,
there's probably like six graduation ceremonies,
more or less, give or take, right?
Is that how it works for you guys too?
Because then you'd have six commencement speakers,
so you'd think that that's how someone like him
would kinda slip through the cracks where he's out there
and he's trying to sell you on stuff.
Not to be a bummer, but I was a 2020 grad,
so we got zero graduation.
All I got was a video of Ashton Kutcher being like,
"'Congrats guys, that's really awesome.'" That's pretty good though. Ashton Kutcher being like, congrats guys, that's really awesome.
That's pretty good though.
Ashton Kutcher's probably better than this,
but the COVID thing was a bummer.
To answer your question Billy.
And then the whole Danny Masterson thing.
Oh yeah.
He didn't go to Iowa though.
The letter.
That was, yeah.
If he was on the weddings,
he'd be on the downside of the whole wedding peak.
End of discussion.
Notre Dame's like pretty small,
there's only I think 6,000 undergrads,
so we have like one big ceremony in the stadium. For everyone. And that's like the main commencement, and then they're split into, everyone's like pretty small. There's only, I think, 6,000 undergrads. So we have like one big ceremony in the stadium.
And that's like the main commencement.
And then they're split into, everyone's split into colleges.
And then you do your college commencement thing after.
And that's when you get your diploma.
And our main speaker was-
Double graduations?
Give me one graduation ceremony.
Give me in and out.
Mad Dog was complaining last year
about Notre Dame's graduation being too long.
And I was like, Mad Dog, I agree.
And it was also outside and it it was 40 degrees in there.
Can I tell you something?
You know what I hate more than weddings?
Graduations.
Oh, the worst.
Oh, graduations are terrible to attend.
It was cool, I get it in my diploma though.
Which is, the thing about this weird guy is that like,
okay, yeah, it's a graduation, who cares?
But like, you know there's people that,
like this is like a huge moment for them.
Maybe they're like the first person in their family
to get a degree, or maybe like they've dreamed
of going to Ohio State their whole life or whatever
and they're just like sitting there listening to this guy
talk about Bitcoin for like 40 minutes
while everyone's booing.
It just seems like a miserable way
to like end your college experience.
Also, once again, this all happened
after someone died at the ceremony.
How did they die?
Someone fell like in the stands.
It was very sad.
And then this guy comes out and starts singing songs.
Why did they, like...
He went in with an agenda, Billy,
and he was unwilling to change it.
Couldn't pivot.
Well, no, so they got a copy of his original speech,
and there were so many things in there,
they were like, oh, you can't say that.
Oh, wait, hold on.
So this is the approved draft. So he had more things, and then they're like, oh, you can't say that. Oh, wait, hold on. So this is like the approved draft.
So he had more things and then they're like,
I guess we can let him sing because if not.
I believe like alpha male was like used
in the original script.
And there was like one line about like
replacing the word racism with hate.
And he was like, this man, he wrote so much
all high out of his mind,
posted about it on his Instagram story,
then came out there and just delivered
a literal performance.
Why'd they let him after they saw the draft?
They couldn't find anyone?
Not Kirkhurst Street.
Not available.
Guy Fieri was on the list too.
Really?
Really?
Wow.
Interesting.
Buster Douglas, one Moment Hall of Fame.
In a moment.
Just one.
Hm.
Hm.
That's a good one.
Thank you.
Who were the people that you were going back and forth
with Jess on this yesterday?
Because you told me, and you presented this
as though you had so many of these One Moment Hall
of Famers.
Buster Douglas, a boxer?
Yes. Yes. He beat
Mike Tyson. Oh there are names but you guys don't know the names. That's a
reference that I'm not sure. Let me try some names out because Roy might know
these names. Larry Mize, one moment Hall of Fame. Do you know who Larry Mize is?
Golfer. Won a single green jacket, had one shot I think on the 19th hole. They
played 18, they went to to sudden death and he had one shot, I think, on the 19th hole. They played 18, they went to sudden death.
And he had one big shot, Larry Mize,
one in Green Jacket, that's it.
No one knows anything else Larry Mize has ever done.
Ha!
Nick Foles?
Danny Willett, he had a moment, yeah.
He's one moment Hall of Fame.
That's a good one.
Nick Foles is one moment, not two moments?
Philly Special?
Yeah, the Philly Special. That was the moment. That's the moment, right? That's the moment,. Nick Foles is one moment. Not two moments Philly special. Yeah, it's really special. That was the moment
That's the moment. That's the moment. Yeah, Danny will it
Hmm. You guys don't know who he Andy. Well, it's a good one. Danny will it's a good one
Andy Roddick one u.s. Open name a single other big match Roddick one
Yeah, he's kind of like Reggie Miller where it's like he might have had like one moment like that
But he's relevant past that moment because of his body of work.
Kyrie Irving hit one shot. He hit one shot. I don't want to
hear about it. Andy Roddick is in the International Tennis
Hall of Fame. Okay. Can you be a Hall of Famer and be in the
moment Hall of Fame? He won one major, the US Open. That's it.
Yeah, but he's in the international tennis hall
I don't want to take Andy Roddick out of the really relevant though like everyone
Yeah, I'm that knows of this that's because US tennis sucks whoa especially on the men's side women we dominate
men's terrible
One US Open for Roddick, but he dated Mandy Moore
Two moments Reggie Miller also a Hall of Famer
Shouldn't be mmm But he dated Mandy Moore. Two moments. Reggie Miller also a Hall of Famer.
Shouldn't be.
Should Andy Roddick? I don't wanna do that to Roddick.
We talked to Roddick.
I like Andy.
Is he in one of your group chats?
Actually, let me, actually, actually,
actually, you don't wanna do that to Roddick
because you did something to Andy Roddick
and I don't remember if you did something to Roddick
and you really did something to me and Andy Roddick
at the same time, which is we had an interview
scheduled with Andy Roddick,
and then you disappeared five minutes beforehand
and told me, much like today, told me you handle that
and you interview Andy Roddick.
What?
How'd it go?
Well, surprisingly well, and I wasn't expecting to be interviewing Andy Roddick
at the time.
And I didn't have enough preparation
to do an entire Andy Roddick interview with him
where he was promoting both pickleball and a pickle
sandwich from Subway.
Helping you grow, Billy.
Everything I do, I do for you, Billy.
There's a purpose behind everything I do.
Really.
When I do that to you, when I bail on you for Roddick,
I want to say, hey, can Billy get himself ready and conduct a great interview with no warning no advance warning and
Today since you brought it up same thing can Billy pull an hour and a half of
Podcasting off with no advance warning and you are doing a great job coaching
Yeah coaching that kind of feels like it's last minute
Yeah, it's like it's all it's all part of the big plan Right cuz you never know when you need to be thrusted into the number one seat Billy
I do know it's typically when I see the schedule and you're the number two seat
I like this seat. I've I'm aware. It does seem that way
Yeah, and doesn't like you're doing any extra heavy lifting today. No, I like it better when you're sitting in the one seat
Why is that?
Less pressure for me. I mean,
do you feel pressure still? No, I'd be here more.
One moment Hall of Fame, Stu gots co-hosting.
There you go.
I mean, that is 17 year run. I took out the last three.
I took out the last three. Yeah.
Closing the loop on the Ohio State commencement speaker.
Pretty weird guy.
Who is he?
What does he do besides sell Bitcoin?
He's an Ohio State grad and he runs some like wristband tech company that isn't well known
or very good.
But made him a billion dollars.
Yeah.
I don't know.
He didn't know how he ended up there.
We don't know how he ended up there.
But apparently the president of Ohio State's like a Bitcoin investor or something I read.
So maybe that maybe that was how Joe Namath.
One moment.
Hall of Fame.
And it wasn't on a field.
It was by the pool.
Dwight Clark. Name another catch. Yeah name another one
Dari that's the other one when your mom know why your catch right? That's it. Not another cat
I'm looking up some of the more stranger people to give commencement speech Jerry Springer once gave one
Hmm, I mean not what I listen to it. I mean he was a mayor. He probably has some
weird things to say. James Franco. James Franco would be one of the worst
commencement speeches to listen to ever. Oh my god I'd rather go to a wedding.
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Don LeBattard
You were that kind of sad this morning taking the barrage of anger from Stu gots because you hadn't booked him enough interviews
I the only reason I keep bringing this up is because you not are throwing a big party on 13
You're doing it and I want people to support what you're doing because Stu gots has not made this easy
Stugatts
Well, you know, I well, yeah, you know, this is the done libertar show with a Stu gots
So the day's almost done, Stugats. Yep, just started.
It has just started, but in terms of like the show's day's almost done, and as we discussed earlier, as soon as this is done, everybody's just leaving, no one's saying goodbye to each other, we already said our goodbyes, that's it.
Yep.
Pack it in, we'll see each other on Monday. In Lucy's case, we'll see her probably in three weeks because their schedule is.
I'll miss you guys.
Yeah, will you?
We'll miss you.
A little.
Willow will say bye.
I saw Willow crossing the street
because we have like a street cam today
and I was like in the room getting ready
and I just saw Willow like running across the cross
and I was like, oh, Willow.
That was the whole story.
Hopefully Jessica was with her.
It's a great story.
Yeah, well that's, I'm gonna end that discussion.
Immediately.
On Willow.
Short story short.
Roy, before we go, can we check the box score one more time?
Alright, we are checking the box score on the WNBA.
The Dream and the Fever played last night.
Shout out to Renee Montgomery.
83 to 80, the Fever won last night.
Kaitlyn Clark went 12, 8, and 6.
But had 6 turnovers and went 2 for 9 from 3. Didn't need to bring that up. in Montgomery, 83 to 80, the fever won last night. Kaitlin Clark went 12, eight and six,
but had six turnovers and went two for nine from three.
Didn't need to bring that up.
Not regular season though, right?
Preseason?
Yeah, preseason.
Yes.
When's the regular season start?
Tuesday.
You excited?
Yeah.
I thought that you were getting a subscription
for the season pass.
I am.
Yesterday.
I'm on it.
You don't know when it is though? I'm getting to it.
Yeah.
I have a WNBA story.
Her first game's on ESPN too.
Well, yesterday was her first home game, but it wasn't, you
know.
It's on Disney Plus too.
Yeah.
Wow.
Most of their games are nationally televised,
which is very cool.
That's awesome.
So if you want to watch Katelyn, you may not have to.
But if you want to support the WNBA, you should.
I will. OK, good. Just kind of checking back in on, but if you want to support the WNBA, you should. I will.
Okay, good.
Just kind of checking back in on that.
I'm excited to close the loop on that next week.
That loop will stay open forever,
that we're never gonna get a full fledged subscription
from him.
Guys, I was invited to a WNBA fantasy league this year.
What a cluster that was.
Okay, that's what we're gonna get to.
Our draft was yesterday.
And full disclosure, I never agreed.
I just received the invitation,
your draft is today at seven.
And I was like, okay, I don't wanna be the person
that holds up this draft, so I'll do this, let's do this.
So I start looking around saying I'm gonna do this.
So we have a show like company WNBA draft
that we're doing here internally in Miami.
And the rules are a little bit different
than most fantasy leagues that I've been a part of.
And that Rose is just making them up as she goes.
Yeah, Rose is the commissioner of this.
Oh no.
Yeah, she instituted a dibs rule.
Okay, Chris, you tell the story.
I thought we were, sorry, go ahead.
I thought we were, you know, spackling.
So Rose is in charge of this fantasy league.
She made herself the commissioner.
That was very lebitard of him.
Tag team.
So back again.
Seats getting to his head, I mean.
Yeah, sorry.
I apologize.
It's okay.
Well anyways, Rose made a rule
because she wants Caitlin Clark
where everyone gets dibs of the players
that they, the first round pick that they want
before the draft.
And it's just because she wants Kaitlyn Clark.
That's not how drafts work.
That's what I tried to tell her.
Look, it's your fault for letting Rose run the league.
Respectfully, love you to death, Rose,
but I would not trust you to do that.
Well, here's the thing though.
No one wanted to run the league,
so Rose wants to do the league, she's gonna run the league.
So somehow, everyone agreed to this rule.
Like, everyone was cool with this situation.
So then everyone's-
Was there a vote?
No, but she said everybody, like you get dibs
on who you want, I get Caitlin Clark.
And then everyone just started saying
who it is that they wanted.
What?
Based on proximity to Rose in the office?
Is that how that worked?
I got there late.
I was like the 10th person to choose.
This is not how a draft works though.
So there were two people who hadn't picked
their dibs player when I got mine in,
and Brianna Stewart was still there.
So I got dibs on Brianna Stewart.
You got the MVP of the team.
Correct, yes.
The first pick.
Yeah, correct, but if we're gonna be honest,
people were just picking names they recognized
because someone got dibs on Diana Taurasi,
who in our league was ranked 998th,
so had no business being reserved in any way.
So, anyways, we get to draft day at seven o'clock.
A lot of players on that rankings list.
A lot of players in the league.
That's where she was when I put in her name,
because I was looking, I'm like scrolling, scrolling,
where's Diana?
So.
I think there's only 140 people on WNBA rosters. I don't even think they finished making cuts yet either.
Daniel Taurasi is having a fall. You guys did a draft pre-cuts? So yeah pre-cut huh?
Seven o'clock comes and it's time for the draft I know I'm gonna get Breonna
Stewart that's my person I called dibs on and that's how this league works you
just called dibs on someone you get them right so with the dib system I'm gonna get Breonna Stewart. That's my person I called dibs on and that's how this league works. You just call dibs on someone, you get them, right?
So with the dibs system, I'm then asking Rose for followups.
Like, okay, so since we have dibs,
are they just automatically on my team
or does this need to be my number one draft pick?
Because if it doesn't and they're on my team,
she can be my last draft pick
and I can get more good players, right?
So I was told, no, you need to,
your dibs player is your first round pick, but you need to your dibs players your first round pick
But you need to draft the person because Rose didn't know how to put people on your team automatically, right?
So sure enough the draft begins at 7 p.m. And Mike Malley who does video stuff with us is there
But he's not there. He has the number one pick and he's not in the draft who Mike Malley. Oh
So Mike does not Mike doesn't get in before autopick.
Miles.
So his team autopicks Brianna Stewart.
And I'm like, well now what do we do?
Because I had dibs on this person.
Oh come on, this is ridiculous.
And this is the way this league works.
So I had dibs on this person.
So then Thomas, who also does stuff with us,
helpfully suggested, well,
because I said what do I do?
My person has now been picked. Who? Thomas helpfully said, well, because I said, what do I do? My person has now been picked.
Who?
Thomas helpfully said, you know what you do?
You pick Caitlin Clark.
And I said, that makes sense.
So I picked Caitlin Clark with the second pick in the draft,
not knowing that Rose had the third pick in the draft.
So now Rose is very upset with what's going on.
Your team is stacked.
Oh my god.
Anarchist versus anarchist.
It gets worse.
This is wild. It gets worse. This is wild.
It gets worse.
So I don't know what's going on.
She doesn't know what's going on.
No one does.
Eventually Mike Malley joins and says, you know what?
I'm sorry I missed it.
I was editing.
I was working.
It's like, no problem.
He's like, just whoever had Brianna,
just pick Diana Taurasi, and then we'll trade.
I'm like, perfect.
We'll do that.
So my second pick comes.
I take Diana Taurasi, which again, I had to scroll all the, we'll do that. So my second pick comes, I take Diana Taurasi.
Which again, I had to like scroll all the way down
to find her, it was crazy how low she was.
And I'm like, Mike Malley's not gonna have a good season
if he's picking this with his reserve pick with his dibs.
This is crazy, right?
No doubt.
So.
Classic M&M.
It's only like a 10 person draft.
It goes really quickly.
By like 7.35 we were done with the entire thing
But there was like eight people in our ten person league that did not show up for the draft
So everyone's auto picking so then because she changed the time right it was nine o'clock the day before then it became seven
Whatever Jeremy didn't show up on time Chris
I think got there like in the third or fourth round Jerry Bear was supposed to get Asia Wilson
I don't think he ended up getting he didn't because he wasn't there on time,
so his team auto-picked someone else.
So then we have a conversation.
Rose did.
That's another thing.
Rose is now picking people who had dibs on them.
Roy, and Rose, do you see now?
Now, Roy wasn't there.
Rose, do you see now why dibs is not a thing in fantasy?
So, thank you.
She can't help with the other MVP.
Rose, Rose goes and she picks someone
that she's not supposed to pick.
So like, we know as commissioner,
she can go and she can undo these things
and she can just reassign people to her team.
She has this power.
She doesn't know that though.
So we're just like with this trade system
and this is where things got really bad and frustrating
is that everyone that was there was like,
you know what, I'm gonna respect the dibs.
Which again is crazy.
I'm gonna respect the dibs. Just trade me this person I'm gonna respect the dibs, just trade me this person
for the person you had dibs on, it's all good,
we're gonna go.
But no one knows who anyone had dibs on.
So enter Juju, who just starts sending everyone trades
for their best players and saying he had dibs
on those players, and Juju now has this stacked team
because he took everyone's dibs players
right after the draft in maximum confusion.
We gotta redraft.
He then just goes and starts saying,
I had this person, I had that person, that person's mine.
And they're like, okay, okay, like in the spirit of goodwill.
He just has the starting five of the aces.
Yeah, he has a ridiculous team because he just said
that he had all the dibs players and everybody not knowing
were just like, okay, Juju, like I trust you
and sent Juju all their best players.
So then we're like, Rose, you can just go
and you can reassign these players
to the teams that had dibs on them.
And then Juju's like, well, I don't think that's fair.
I'm so glad I said no to this league.
So now Rose doesn't wanna do that.
Are you happy, Rose?
I'm so glad I didn't get an invite.
Well, here's the thing though,
because I tried to do my trade for Breonna Stewart
for Diana Taurasi.
Right. But because she's a better player you tried to trade Brianna
Stewart for Tarassi's 998th that's a bad trade no I was gonna get Brianna Stewart
okay yeah because that was my dibs player so I was gonna do with Mike
Mallee's dibs player so we agreed exactly we agreed to this fleece Eminem no
it didn't let me do no he suggested it didn't let me do it because she's a protected,
locked player, so she couldn't be traded to me,
but somehow Juju got the trade to him.
So anyways, the solution that I have worked up with
in my head of how to solve this situation,
because Rose really wants Caitlin Clark,
but now I don't have a good team,
and Caitlin is my better player on my team.
So, if Rose-
I can hear Rose screaming from the other room, by the way.
She's yelling.
So here's-
These walls are also soundproof.
Here's the thing.
If Rose wants, if Rose wants Caitlin Clark on her team,
my proposal is, and this I don't think
has ever been done before.
And I am putting this in front of you guys
to decide whether or not this is okay.
If Rose wants Caitlin Clark on her team
I think she's gonna have to take trade me Tyler glass now from her fantasy baseball team to my
So Rose I'd like to propose to you a trade in which you will get will work out the specifics after I'll trade you
Kaylin Clark and fantasy WNBA, but you trade me Tyler Glass now in fantasy baseball.
I give you anyone you want in fantasy baseball.
Okay, perfect. So we'll have this conversation after.
I actually already sent you a trade proposal if you want to get this accepted.
Anyone. I'm already losing.
Okay, great.
She's a bigger Kaylin Clark fan than Lucy.
It's kind of wild.
And like Lucy didn't even argue with that statement.
Because it's true, which is crazy.
Rose, how did you allow this to happen
and become such a mess?
No, no, no, no, no, no, that's not my fault.
It was Mike Malley, I told him, okay, at seven.
Eminem.
Eminem, and I told him, okay, Mike, at seven.
He was the only one that answered,
and he was like, oh yeah, seven.
I was like, okay, you were the first pick?
He was the first person to ask if it was at seven,
and she said yes, so he confirmed it.
He confirmed it.
And then he was not there.
And then he took Breanna Stewart.
And then you were so mad that you were like,
okay, I'm gonna get Katelyn Clark.
I'm like, Katelyn Clark is not the second option.
You could have gone with Sabrina or whoever.
You just went with Katelyn because you were mad.
Divs is not a thing.
Divs is not a thing.
It is in my league. It is her league.
It is my league.
I am told that Mike Malley didn't come in today
because of all of this.
I'm sure.
He's on strike.
Yeah, he's not in today.
He also sent me this long thing apologizing
for the mess that he made, and I was like,
I don't really care.
Get over it.
If I'm gonna be honest.
No, you gotta lie and act like you're really upset
so you get something out of it.
But he's new, I don't want him to feel. Yeah, but he's new to town. I don't feel bad about this
He gave me Cameron Brink
But that's not one of your div players
No, because I gave him a player that I don't even know who she is, but that's not how trades work Rose
And he felt he felt bad. He just gave me Cameron Brink. I'm like okay, but Rose. I get that. I feel bad
This is a problem. This is an awful league. I'll get that. But Rose. Feel bad.
This is a problem.
This is an awful league.
It's probably like a Rike Ogunbala.
It's probably like a really good player.
I don't feel bad for any of you.
Rose, you know how much I love you.
You should not be in charge of planning things,
respectfully.
You should not.
Why didn't you guys wanna be in this fantasy league?
What?
The exact story you just said.
It's the best fantasy league that anybody has done.
Yeah.
Okay. If you say so.
End of discussion. End of discussion.
Thank you, Rose. You got glass there.
Hey listeners, it's Mike Ryan and I've changed a lot over the course of 20 years that you've known me.
I've gone from unlikable to, well, my hair has changed.
But my point is,
while a lot's changed over our relationship, there's one thing that hasn't changed one bit,
and that's a great taste of Miller Lite. Another thing that hasn't changed is that it's less
filling. So what's the best thing about the original Lite beer? Miller Lite has sparked this
debate way back in 1975, and we still haven't settled it. They keep it simple. It's got
undebatable quality, great taste, 96 calories, you know all those things. It's a beer that
strips everything away that you don't need and holds on to what matters most. But with
Miller Lite, you don't have to choose what's best. Miller Lite has great taste and is less
filling. It's both those things. Tastes like Miller time. To get Miller Lite delivered right
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This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. I ain't cheating. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
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Can I close the loop real quick
before we go to the top five knots?
Yes. Sure.
I wanna close the Mandy Moore loop.
Oh really, This is us?
Yeah, so we talked about Mandy Moore because she dated Andy Roddick.
We talked about Andy Roddick in the Moment Hall of Fame.
Then it got to Mandy Moore.
Mandy Moore, to close the Mandy Moore loop that only Taylor cares about,
used to date Taylor's cousin and went to Taylor's house for Thanksgiving and for Christmas.
Wow!
Yeah. And then if we're going to close the Taylor's cousin loop,
Taylor's cousin was an actor.
That's how.
Oh, look, there's Mandy Moore with Taylor's dad
for anyone that knows Taylor's family.
I don't know why we're showing that.
Wow.
OK.
Taylor's having a moment.
Yeah, Taylor is having a moment.
He is, yeah.
Taylor's cousin was an actor and was
the person that kept getting pulled over in Super Troopers.
So there's Taylor's cousin getting pulled over
in Super Troopers.
And that is closing the Taylor loop.
Wait a minute. Which one is Taylor's cousin? The guy in super troopers and that is closing the Taylor wait a minute
Which one is Taylor's cousin the driver the driver? Oh?
Man yeah, that is the person that
further yeah
So those loops are closed huh?
Glad we did that. It's a good show for Taylor
It is he is having a moment. It's crazy
It is he is having a moment. It's crazy
Where's Tommy top five knots? Yeah, I got the top five knots over you guys ready
All right. Yeah, you think thanks for answering. I'm ready So these are your top five knots because the Panthers was down one game to nothing
They they tied it up and I told Roy they have game three tonight in Boston
I told Roy there are a few better knots than nodding a series up at one game a piece
when you're down one out.
It's a great not.
Yes, absolutely.
Any OLIs, Roy?
No OLI, no, no, no outside looking in, no.
Huh, really?
So we just got five.
Only five, wow.
Sorry, five.
How's that possible?
There's so many nots.
I feel like I can think of 10 OLIs
just off the top of my head.
All right, well we can go with you after the list.
That's OK.
It says list.
Jeez.
It's your list.
I don't want to, like, dull your shine.
Oh, please.
Number five, astronaut.
It's a good one.
Yeah, yeah.
Number four, nachos.
That's a stretch.
It's a stretch? Okay. It's his list. Number three not working
Much like this list my favorite not number one
No, number two number two knotting a series up one one
And number one golligan nuts. It's pretty good.
Thank you.
I like the emphatic phone slam.
Oh, I like that.
Do you like soggy garlic nut?
How do you like your garlic nuts?
Lots of butter.
Slightly overcooked, right?
Yeah.
Crispy.
Yeah.
Yes.
Has to be crispy.
Yeah.
No nuts very far.
Oh, wow. Oh, aye. Nuts landing? Oh. You. No knots very far. Oh, wow.
Knots landing.
Oh.
You know, you're right.
You're absolutely right.
Don knots.
There's a couple of odds out of the hands there.
Don Van Nata.
Oh, wow.
There's so many knots.
You had so much room for O.L.I.'s.
That brings me back to number three,
not working, this list.
That's it.
The bunt line hitch whoo that's a knot I just googled types of knots that was the first one that came
up rope so just asked if I ever did a commencement speech what that would sound
like wait are we closing the loop unless we spin the wheel and then we can't do
it I created a school called the Stugat School of Broadcasting.
Yeah.
And we did a commencement speech.
Here's a piece of it.
A speech.
Bo Jackson, listen up.
Students, faculty, parents, grandparents, and sponsors,
especially the sponsors today you are the greatest broadcasters
in the world you were born to be broadcasters every one of you I'm sick
and tired of hearing about what great broadcast schools the Ivies have screw
it this is your time I knew it wouldn't be easy to transform sports media, but take it from me.
You miss 100% of the takes you don't steal from Greenie, Cowherd, and Popgum.
I mean, I've missed more than 9,000 pronunciations in my career.
I've lost almost 300 debates.
26 times I've entrusted to make the segment ending joke
and misheard what was said in my ear.
I have failed over and over and over again in my life
and that is why I succeed.
Always remember what you learned on your first day here.
Speak loudly and carry a big shtick. We live in a world
that has paywalls and those paywalls have to be guarded by men with journalism degrees.
Who's going to do it? You, Lieutenant Wilbond. I have a greater responsibility than you could
possibly family. You weak for newspapers and you curse the blogs and
podcasts. You have that luxury. You have the luxury of not knowing what I know.
That the death of newspapers, while tragic, probably created better content.
And my existence, while grotesque and incomprehensible to you, creates better content.
You don't want the truth because deep down in places you don't talk about in press boxes
You want me on that radio?
You need me on that
That's Dan Van Gundy
It was a lot better than the Ohio State one. Oh, thank you
Shockingly you didn't try to sell me anything, unlike that guy. Also written on Ayahuasca.
Is that on the Wheel of Topics we're not going to talk about?
Spin it!
Oh, wait.
It landed on the TNT NBA rights deal.
Oh, whoops, sorry.
Yeah, of course, right in the ham is a.
What happened there?
A fancy land.
How are you guys so calm with the Panthers
playing a game in Boston tonight?
Roy, you're too calm, I don't like it.
Well, it's kind of my personality to be kind of even, so.
I'd like to see you nervous once in a while. No, no
That's not me Roy's it's stressful playing this role that you're never stressed about anything or nervous about it
absolutely is I feel like your insides must be like
Killing you I think the real question about tonight's game is what is the response to the fight like his fat pack and I go after
Kachuk are you gonna?
He hates me to call fat pat. Well, he is I mean have you seen him this series? I mean, I hate that guy
He's on the lightning forever. He's my least favorite hockey player of all time
And now he's on the Bruins and he's he's so slow right now
Yeah, he's just out there too
Like I would not be surprised if he went after Kachuk in this game early
the whole fat pat thing was Jack Edwards who was was the play by play guy for the Bruins,
called him fat pat, and Pat Maroon confronted him about it.
And now he's a Bruin.
The thing about Kachuck is he's not just gonna fight anybody
because he's valuable to his team.
He's not gonna let the 14th guy on Boston.
He's not the fighter.
He only fought because it was their best player.
He's like, if pasta wants to fight,
because Boston needs pasta.
Like he's their best player by far
Matthew Kichuck is the guy who starts the scrums basically in these kids
He's the agitator and then he doesn't actually fight usually but this one he's just like if pasta wants to fight
I'm in but you don't want Chuckie fighting because he's too valuable to the team to Chris's point
You can't have him fight can't fight down right pasta. I'm good because if you have fight day in worst case scenario
Those guys both go
That's a good thing for the pants to be clear pasta and fat pat are different people. Yes
Yes, is their best player fat pat is the fourth line player right now
So Roy knows this when the Oilers had their run and Wayne Gretzky was close to getting into a fight or
Or Messier any of those guys the goons would come over and take care of business
Yeah, they didn't want Gretzky getting hurt
They wanted Gretzky on the ice. That's why Chucky is so amazing. Yes. He's everything
Well, we're coming off of a playoff last season where he got hurt. He got hurt off of a hit
We don't need him get I say we as if I'm part of team
We don't need the Panthers don't need him getting hurt based off a fight where he breaks his hand because he punched
They have a dude those moments. I get it. Obviously. I don't want to chuck to get hurt
But that moment where he fought Pasta,
like that is, that's why Kachuck is here.
Yeah, that's why he has the A on his sweater.
That's why he's one of the captains.
I love him so much.
Should have the C though, maybe.
No, no, that's Alexander.
Wow, you got mad at me, Roy.
You got mad at me.
Kachuck is-
They should get a ring if they win.
Kachuck is very quickly moving up
the all-time South Florida sports list. I don't think so. I'm they win. Kachuk is very quickly moving up the all time South Florida
sports list.
I don't think so.
I'm telling you, Kachuk, he might be already the number one
Panther of all time.
Just in terms of fans.
No, no, it's Alexander Barkov.
Crazy.
It's Beezer.
Yeah, it's Beezer.
It is not John Van Beezer.
You have to get to a Stanley Cup, Roy.
Get to a Stanley Cup.
I get Barkov has been here longer,
but I'm telling you, fans,
I think fans would vote Chucky right now over Barkov.
I don't think you understand how Mount Rushmore works.
So like, here's how it works.
I'm not an expert on presidents,
but if I go to Mount Rushmore, I know who the presidents are.
Doesn't mean they were the best presidents,
just means I know who they are
when I look at them on a mountain.
I don't know but
In terms of Panthers, you can't put a Panther on there that like the you know layman doesn't know who they are
I mean most I think layman sports fans no Kachak are there any Marlins on the South Florida Mount Rushmore Jeff Kuhn
I know
Miguel Cabrera would be the only nomination
Yesterday that Monty Harrison is gonna play football at Arkansas I know. No. Miguel Cabrera would be the only nomination. No. I saw yesterday that Monte Harrison
is gonna play football at Arkansas.
Did you guys see this story?
Seeing where all those guys are that we traded,
that one trade that we made.
We had that graphic the other day.
The yellowish trade, it is, it's comical.
Monte Harrison, who's playing college football,
is the most successful.
Look right there, okay, so here's Mount Rushmore.
That's George Washington, that's Monty Harrison okay that's Abraham Lincoln
and that's Teddy Roosevelt and then Matthew Kachuk. Is that Thomas Jefferson? So Matthew Kachuk right there. So I know them. Good job. Honestly the second guy looks like Matthew Kachuk a little bit. Maybe it is, maybe they just knew, yeah. Jordan Yamamoto.
That's the foreplay.
Jordan Yamamoto's a high school coach now.
There is room for a fifth right there, right?
There seems to be.
Squeeze one in, my face is a good one.
Yeah, the Rock.
Who would be the Marlin on the South Florida?
Miguel Cabrera's no more Marlin.
Well, I mean, if you're doing based on like-
Chris, they won two World Series. I mean, I think that you would put on like Dontra Willis is like the most one of the most popular ones Jose Fernandez
Very popular on Hernandez. Yeah, best Marlon of all times. We'll Cabrera
I mean, but we're not doing best of all time. I think that thought that's exactly what we were doing
Those are the four best presidents of all time. I like the most iconic. I think is yeah, that's what I'm saying
Yeah presidents of all time. Like the most iconic I think. Yeah that's what I'm saying. Thomas Jefferson.
That's why Beezer's on there for me.
No, no, no.
Do I really have to explain why John Bambi's
not going for Beezer?
South Florida?
Well apparently he has issues.
We're trying to talk around.
Marino, Beezer, Shula, Jimmy Johnson.
Okay I'm going to have to explain why John Bambi's goingambi's Hold on a second. Let me ask you guys a question.
In this Mount Rushmore, because I'm,
new segment called changing the subject to save StuGuts,
in this, if we're doing a Mount Rushmore
I'm taking Beezer off, I thought about it.
Kick saving a Beezer.
Thank you.
You know, I was kick saving a Beezer,
which is why maybe he's on there.
He's not on there.
Anyway, so if you're doing a Mount Rush mountain or Jimmy John you have one per team like a panther a marlin a heat and a
Whatever the fourth is just no goalie dolphin
Yeah, and the discussion is a dolphin wait spin the wheel about messy merino
The Beezer we can't talk about it
That one was on purpose guys this is a great show
Don't say goodbye, okay. No now is the time bye it's on the wall
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Hey listeners, it's Mike Ryan and I've changed a lot over the course of 20 years that you've
known me.
I've gone from unlikable to, well, my hair has changed.
But my point is, while a lot has changed over our relationship, there's one thing that hasn't
changed one bit.
And that's a great taste of Miller Lite.
Another thing that hasn't changed is that it's less filling.
So what's the best thing about the original Lite beer?
Miller Lite has sparked this debate way back in 1975 and we still haven't settled it.
They keep it simple. It's got undebatable quality, great taste, 96 calories, you know all those
things. It's a beer that strips everything away that you don't need and holds on to what matters
most. But with Miller Lite you don't have to choose what's best. Miller Lite has great taste
and is less filling. It's both those things.
Tastes like Miller time! To get Miller Lite delivered right to your door, visit MillerLite.com
slash Dan, or you can find it pretty much anywhere that sells beer. Celebrate responsibly.
Miller Brewing Company, Milwaukee, Wisconsin, 96 calories per 12 ounces. Fewer cows and
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