The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Mining For Liquid Gold

Episode Date: January 30, 2024

Stugotz is weeks late to a few discoveries, and Greg Cote is a day late to his takes on this weekend's NFL games. Greg also teaches us the only proper way to eat a fried egg. Then, Ron Magill is here ...to teach us about the greatest lovers in the animal kingdom. Plus, how are we supposed to discuss Lamar Jackson and the Ravens after their loss to the Chiefs? Where do we place the blame? Sports talk! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the big sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants
Starting point is 00:00:29 just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. We do have a lot of things to get to. Stugas hasn't just discovered that the sons might be good,
Starting point is 00:00:50 but he's also discovered that Shannon Sharp is good at the take. Yes. And he has discovered as well that Tom Brady is sharpening the take, trying to get better at the take. It is not a strength. We will get to that in a moment. Greg Cody has a lot of thoughts on eggs that we have to get to.
Starting point is 00:01:10 It's all he brought in today. When he was asked if he had any thoughts on anything, all he brought in was the proper way to eat eggs and we'll get to that in just a second. Other than all the other stuff on my list of... Like hitting the microphone with your thermos. That was on there as well. I checked that off as soon as that happened.
Starting point is 00:01:31 He also has day old football takes. He's got a lot of those that he wants to get to. So it's not just eggs, it's also, the expiration date on some of these takes is expired, but he wants to get them off anyway. Okay, so let me get this straight. The Super Bowl is in like 10 days, but it's already a dead topic. Like, you can't talk about a Super Bowl that's happening February 11th because you didn't talk about it yesterday. I don't think you want to talk about the Super Bowl. You want to talk about the
Starting point is 00:02:02 games that we already talked about on Sunday night and Monday morning. Well, it's because what Dan Campbell did is rob America of the Super Bowl America wanted, which is Detroit in it. Dan Campbell, he kneecapped his own team. He made two decisions in the fourth quarter that literally cost them the Super Bowl. So this is you previewing the Super Bowl, right? These are not reheated takes from two days ago. I think Greg is upset because he feels like the better matchup would have been Kansas
Starting point is 00:02:35 City and Detroit. He would have preferred to see that, and he's right. Dan Campbell robbed us of that opportunity. Tom Brady agrees. Right. Baltimore and Detroit would have been the ideal Super Bowl. And Lamar Jackson failed, but that's fine. That's what he does, apparently, in the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:02:51 But Dan Campbell, his macho... You're previewing the Super Bowl by talking about all of the people and players that aren't in the Super Bowl. No, he's previewing his preview of the Super Bowl. He hasn't gotten to the points yet. He's just telling us what they will be. The Ravens did beat the hell out of the Lions earlier in the season, but you still wanted to see a rematch of that in the Super Bowl? I did. And because of Wishful Betts, I think there's a chance Detroit might have actually been
Starting point is 00:03:16 favored because by then they would have been, you know, the team of Destiny and all that bullshit. No, no, no, no, they would not have been favored. I think they might have been. Craig! A lot of people place Wishful Betts. Craig! Well, you don't, you don't, Craig would not have been favorite. I think they might have been. A lot of people place wishful bets. Greg. We'll never know because Dan Campbell ruined it. Well, hold on a second, because the Niners are favored, and so if Detroit beat San Francisco
Starting point is 00:03:33 in San Francisco, you don't think maybe a one point favorite? Detroit was a seven point dog at San Francisco. They weren't going to be a favorite against Baltimore. You don't know that, do you? No, I do know that. I know that as much as I know anything I've ever known. I have no way to know that. There's betting trends.
Starting point is 00:03:50 That's why the Jets- There is a way to know that. They'll never know. The Jets and the Giants are always over-bet. Their lines are always off by a point or two because of wishful bets. America who does- Greg. Americans who never bet would have bet on the Lions
Starting point is 00:04:06 just because they hoped it happened. Greg ain't lying. You don't understand how. I'm not lying. Like the pride of a lion. The book that you can get anywhere now, including Amazon. Well done. But I'm not lying about this.
Starting point is 00:04:17 The Detroit Lions, because of wishful bets from one time betters, might have been favored over Baltimore. You should have led with eggs. Could you imagine how great that would have been for business to end for Greg? The Lions make the super-obvious say, you know what, Lions, that's an interesting animal. I want to know more about Lions. What's this? That's right, exactly right.
Starting point is 00:04:37 Pride of a lion? A brand new book? I heard Stugott saying that what he wants to do in Vegas next week is take Greg Cody along Radio Row with that book and just force him on nasty nester on morning radio in Baltimore and force Greg Cody upon an assortment of radio enterprise. I want to be his handler. I want to walk Greg through Radio Row. I know where all the tables are set up. I know who is sitting where because I am the mayor of Radio Row. They send me the table diagrams before the people even know where all the tables are set up. I know who is sitting where because I am the mayor of Radio Row.
Starting point is 00:05:05 They send me the table diagrams before the people even know where it is they're sitting. So I know where all the big shows are set up. I have accessed all the big shows. I would like to walk Greg around Radio Row and I will get him on every radio show in America. We have to do this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:05:22 Well, the key to that is what Stugatsu's saying is he needs a handler, if not two handlers. You need some sort of commotion hubbub around him and then people will be coming to you saying, who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Who's that? Oh, that's Greg Cody from the Dan Labrador Show with Stugats.
Starting point is 00:05:36 Oh, that's Greg Cody from the Greg Cody Show with Greg Cody. And then that's how you get them on the shows. You need a hubbub around him. You need like a, almost like the, you know, pig pen from Peanuts, how he has that smoke cloud around him. That's what Greg needs at Radio Row. We've effectively done this before in the past, because Roy had a resemblance to Terrell Owens at the time. We just had a bunch of people walking around Roy,
Starting point is 00:05:57 and we convinced everyone around us that he was actually TO, and then we sat him down next to Ryan Howard and Jared Fogle of Subway, which was very unfortunate in retrospect. Wow, that did not age well that bit. The hypothetical line provided by DraftKings on Baltimore, Detroit is Baltimore favored by three and a half. That's all, huh?
Starting point is 00:06:17 We do know. Not seven. Well, you don't know. It's a hypothetical. Right, you don't know. They just made that up. What's a lot of kickoff, right? What do they know? Draft Kings?
Starting point is 00:06:25 Yeah. I mean, what does anybody know? I meant to say. Draft Kings knows more than us. Right about that. Can save and abuse. I mean, if anybody knows it's Draft Kings, but nobody knows. You know, nobody knows.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And wishful... You never heard the theory of wishful betting? The Crown is yours. They set the betting lines. They send... They send... The people who set the betting lines. That actually counts as a library, I think, promo code Dan.
Starting point is 00:06:46 And betting lines move. He's the kind of yours? You may not have noticed betting lines move. Well said. Not three and a half points, they don't. No, but they set the line. Yeah, the public decides. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:56 If a quarterback is injured, it moves three and a half points. Can we go with the eggs? If a quarterback's injured, we just want eggs. So now it's moved to, now it's moved to, well, if Lamar Jackson was hurt All right, maybe Detroit I mean if you open the hypothetical door, yeah, you have a known thing in eggs Yeah, that would deliver eggs are incredible, huh?
Starting point is 00:07:17 The incredible egg who's the first person that saw them thought you know what I want that in my mouth No, what's it the chicken who knows? Greg what is the proper way to eat the eggs the way that you were talking about eating them? We're talking about a fried egg. You know, there's a million different ways you can make eggs, obviously. The fried egg requires you to crack the shell just perfectly. It's all in the shell cracking with a fried egg. But what I was wondering is,
Starting point is 00:07:47 I have a particular way of eating a fried egg. And I like the fried egg over, I like that yolk runny. But the way I eat a fried egg, and this is out of curiosity, I'm asking if others do the same. I eat around the yolk, I eat all the white of the egg first. And you have to be as delicate as a surgeon. No yellow?
Starting point is 00:08:06 No yolk. Let me finish. Let him cook, Dan. Let him cook. You have to be as delicate as a surgeon to get around that yolk without breaking it. If you nick the yolk and the yellow starts running, the entire thing is ruined. So what you do is you carefully eat around, you eat all the white, and at the end, what you have is you carefully eat around you eat all the white and at the end what you have is a giant yellow
Starting point is 00:08:27 Eye alone on the plate staring at you the yolk of the egg and then You take your triangle of toast off the sharp point You jab it gently right in the middle of the eye The eye starts oozing yellow gold and then you dip the toast in it and that's when your egg comes alive. The white is superfluous. The white is superfluous. People who eat these white omelets and no yolk in the oven, forget about that. The egg does its work when you get to the yolk and that's how to eat a fried egg. But I'm curious if I'm alone on that
Starting point is 00:09:05 or if other people do that. I should have started with that. Well done. I should have started with that. I'm gonna go do other people do that. That was beautiful. Do you really? Well done, man.
Starting point is 00:09:14 That was really well done with the eggs. Bon pantotá. Are you serious? I'm gonna try it that way. I actually really like the yolk, and I like it when the yolk goes over the egg white, and you don't like to mix the two flavors, but I'm gonna try it your way
Starting point is 00:09:25 because of how beautifully you put that. It is liquid gold, I'm telling you. The problem with that is that when you're eating the egg whites, you're getting no flavor. You're waiting for the payoff and all you're doing is eating egg whites that are so dry that I'd prefer just a little yellow in the egg whites to give it a little bit of flavor so I don't feel like I'm just eating printed paper. Well cook your eggs better, number one. Number two, you salt and pepper the yellow. The yellow doesn't need salt and pepper. Let's get that straight. Liquid gold.
Starting point is 00:10:12 The white does. You carefully salt and pepper around the yolk and that way the white of the egg is not a pleasurable experience like the yolk but more than tolerable because you know what? You know you're getting to the yolk. but more than tolerable, because you know what? You know you're getting to the yolk. You know, it's like you're mining for gold. It's a slow buildup, Dan. Four play. It is.
Starting point is 00:10:32 That's exactly what it is. It's a sexual experience in the breakfast table. Dan, I know you've done it with Banco Montaguea, where you wait for that last drop and then, you hit it with the egg. Oh my God, so good. It's beautiful. It's the best thing in cuisine.
Starting point is 00:10:46 It really is, the yolk of an egg. Well, you guys tell me as Cubans there in the back row. Badaam! That's me honoring the chicken. That's the sound of a chicken. And when I eat an egg yolk, I have mad respect for the person who laid it. Do you think the chickens are proud?
Starting point is 00:11:05 Like when you eat an egg and you enjoy it, the chicken views it as like, the chicken's the chef of this egg and is proud to serve you this meal. No, it's beautiful. It's a wonderful thing and the chickens act proud. I don't know if you've ever watched chickens. Certain struts sometimes they lay the egg and then they don't even strut.
Starting point is 00:11:21 They saunter through the farm yard, they're going, badaip! You know, they're like very, badaip you know, they're like very... Badaip. Yeah, they're the cock of the walk. Badaip, well they're not. Well, but they're like that, they're all poultry. Yeah. Even turkeys, you know, with the big thing,
Starting point is 00:11:37 the big red thing, they're walking around, they have no idea they're about to have their head chopped off. They're oblivious, but until they die, a proud bird. A proud bird. They're a proudious. But until they die of a proud birth, they're a proud bird. A proud bird. And they show it, unlike some animals. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:50 They show it. Yeah. What I was gonna ask the back row is, what do you imagine is better to dip your panko mantequilla in the yolk or cafe con leche? Hey, oh, you want some pasta and seafood dishes with fresh fish? Mmm.
Starting point is 00:12:06 You split the baby in two, you have one bomb and you put it in the egg and then you pick one. Pick one, you coward. Cafe con leche. Folks, whether you're hosting a game day, a movie night, DiGiorno knows that planning a watch party on a budget isn't easy. You need the perfect setting, the perfect squad, the perfect eats, and luckily you're
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Starting point is 00:12:45 Don Libertad! I miss crank windows. Too many unnecessary conveniences now. Cruise control. Please, I've got cruise control built in. It's called my right foot. It controls how fast the car goes. No button for steering wheel lever needed.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Power steering. There's another one. Why don't I give my power to the car? The power that I once had. The car is a ton of metal. I'm a damn college graduate. Stugatz. Bluetooth, HD radio, satellite. I'll take AM, please, with Wolfman Jack talking through the static.
Starting point is 00:13:22 And I'll crank the windows down so everybody can hear. I'm Greg Cody and that's how it was back in my day. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugarts. Tony is trying to get my attention subliminally with his Things to Ponder file. We will get to that at some point. But Ron McGill joins us as he has our longest standing guest, I believe. Certainly our longest standing regular guest, The Pride of a Lion, the book that he did with Greg Cody
Starting point is 00:13:51 continues to be a bestseller on some very obscure lists. You can get it wherever it is that you get your books. I wanna start though, Ron, with the Rhino Beetle this week because I was sent some video from a listener showing me that the rhino beetle can somehow lift about 850 times its weight. We have talked very often about some of the things in the animal kingdom that have more power than you would expect. So give me an idea of how rare the strength of the rhino beetle is here and how many animals or insects of any kind you would put up against it in a test of strength?
Starting point is 00:14:30 Well, that's incredibly powerful, of course, but a lot of invertebrates, you know, ants are a classic example of these invertebrates that can pick up so much more than their own weight. I mean, hundreds of times, I don't know if it's 800 times like the rhino beetle, I don't have the exact stat, but ants are notorious for their ability to pick up some major, major weight. But the rhino beetle is, you know, it's a tank. It's a tank of an insect. It's got a huge, very, very hard ectoskeleton. So it is probably the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the insect world.
Starting point is 00:15:02 What else would you put in there outside of the insect world. What else would you put in there outside of the insect world? Things that might surprise us, animals who might surprise us with their strength. Look at leopards. Look at what a leopard could bring up a tree. I've seen a leopard bring up almost a full grown, you know, half grown, will the beast up a tree? Something that weighs twice as much as the leopard.
Starting point is 00:15:20 Literally grab it by its neck and climb up a tree with its legs, holding this thing in its mouth dragging it up to the top of the tree I've seen lepros drag things up into trees and I'm going this is unbelievable so that they're an incredibly powerful animal. Ron bullfighting is back in Mexico after I saw that after being disallowed for two years and Humane Society International refers to the bulls suffering from a protracted death
Starting point is 00:15:45 tantamount to torture in the bullfighting arena. My question, why isn't there any sort of international advocacy for animals that reach the legal level? Like why isn't something like that illegal? It is in this country. You know, it all depends on the country's laws. And that's where, you know, you get into international law and you have to be very, very careful. I think countries are incredibly wary of someone else telling them what to do in their own home.
Starting point is 00:16:13 The objective here is to try to just change the culture. And I mean, Mexico was on its way. It started to outlaw bullfighting in several of its states, but there's still that old traditional culture. And unfortunately, I think that is going to have to wait until those generations die off. If you go to these bullfights, you'll see that the majority of the people there are, you know, fairly elderly in age as far as they're not the teenagers, the young people as much. There are a lot of older people and that generation just has to kind of, God, I hate to say it this way, die off. I mean, that mentality has to die off.
Starting point is 00:16:48 Can you guys in video please put up for me this elephant video of an elephant with its trunk tearing down a tree. I know you've talked before about the strength of the elephant and the strength of the elephant's trunk, but this video walk us through it Ron Yeah elephants will knock down tree because they love to eat the bark. They love to eat the pulp of wood They also love to eat the trees so this elephant and I've seen this also with actually trees bigger than that
Starting point is 00:17:16 We're a big bull going there and knocked the whole thing down and what it does is it provides itself with a buffet They're incredibly intelligent animals. I've also seen them go and shake trees, you know, like the marula tree has a marula fruit on it and they'll go up there and they'll shake these trees and all the fruits fall off and it's wonderful. So again, elephant is one of the most intelligent animals on earth, incredibly powerful animal. So they use that strength to their benefit, which in that case is to knock down a big smorgasbord. I'm going to put up here some elephant porn now because the cheese.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Well, it's just elephants having sex, like really going at it. What percentage of elephants, because this is difficult to do, it's a difficult act, what percentage of elephants go through their entire life without ever having sex, Ron? I couldn't give you an exact number, Dan, but I would think that the majority are going to be males that don't have the sex because males will fight with each other to, you know,
Starting point is 00:18:14 to have the territory. So unless he's able to escape, do we have to keep showing this over and over? Yes, Ron. Yes, we do. The most incredible part of elephant sex is actually the elephant penis itself. It's like a fire hose. That thing comes out and the elephant just mounts the female
Starting point is 00:18:32 and the penis does all the work. And then it swings around like a fire hose. You tie it to our fire hydrant, let it go. And that's what it looks like. It's just, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, looking for that opening. When it finds the opening, then it does all the work itself. But it's pretty incredible to watch
Starting point is 00:18:45 I mean that thing is like a fifth of appendage. It's pretty impressive Well, you've told me before that the rhinos it all of this is painful right because the animal that is on top is Is so heavy that it's gonna hurt the other animals back Well generally speaking yes and elephants especially the bulls are much bigger than the cows They generally speaking have no more than usually about 30 seconds on the top of the female before she can no longer withstand his weight. Now with rhinos it's a little different because males and females are very similar in size.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I've seen a female rhino carry a male on her back around for an hour at a time with the male ejaculating every two to five minutes without even doing any kind of pelvic thrusting because the vaginal walls of the female Most of course, it's gotta be a female rhino. Just kind of do all the work The male just stays up there and all of a sudden every like, you know two to five minutes He does this shutter type thing
Starting point is 00:19:34 I don't think he's faking it for her and that's when he's ejaculating and you'll see all this white I can't believe I'm talking about this on this show because Ron you ever watch any videos of animals mating and take some notes, learn some tricks? Like which animal, I guess, would humans most be able to learn from in that area? The best in there. I think there are a lot of animals
Starting point is 00:19:57 that people can learn from. First of all, just in the whole dating process. You know, a lot of people think with animals, it's just like the, you know, oh gosh, they're kids listening. You know, it's just a quickie type thing. It's not that way. Animals go through a very distinctive courtship process. The male is asking permission. The female is making the selection. Generally speaking, in animal kingdom is the female that runs the show. I know it's that way with a lot of us as well. But guys, when you realize that you need to let the female run that show, you'll be a lot happier.
Starting point is 00:20:27 And the fact is, you know, there's an orangutan. I'll never we have an orangutan had an orangutan who habitually would perform oral sex on the females while using his fingers to stimulate her in other area. I mean, this guy was a multitasker to the max. I watched him and go, guys, like, I don't know if they were watching films in the back or what was going on. But that guy was just and he was a god of reproduction. He was unbelievable. Speaking of reproduction, German scientists have turned to in vitro fertilization to help save the white rhino species. They finally successfully impregnated a rhino.
Starting point is 00:21:01 What is your thought on turning to IVF to save endangered species? I think it's absolutely something that it needs to be, needs to be endorsed because at the end of the day, we do it for people, you know, and I know there's going to be some religious zealots that say, oh, you know, this is not God's way. No, God gave us the intelligence to learn this, to help correct the bad things that we have done that have created these species becoming endangered and in fact extinct, if we're not able to reverse that process.
Starting point is 00:21:34 And what we're doing is we're basically creating a surrogate mother. You know, we do it in human beings, right? We do embryo transplants into another person to carry when a woman cannot carry on her own to give her the child. Well, here we're doing, you know, we've done it with a lot of other animals. We've taken zebras, endangered zebras and put their embryos into horses, domestic
Starting point is 00:21:52 horses that have given birth to a full-fledged endangered zebra. We've done that with endangered types of antelope and cattle. So to do this with rhinos, it's just such an iconic animal that some people, you know, that there's some extremists, like, oh, this is not, you know, not the natural way we shouldn't be doing this. No, we should be doing it because this is something we have to do to correct the mistakes we've made in the past. It's knowledge that we have now to help save an endangered species. And I'm all for it. And I'm really
Starting point is 00:22:21 I'm proud of the scientists that have dedicated so much time to make this possible. I'm all for it and I'm really proud of the scientists that have dedicated so much time to make this possible. Ron, do animals have a capacity for romance? Absolutely they do. Absolutely they do. I've seen that in all kinds of animals where they come and bring presents, you know, they're bring gifts to the females, they get her, you know, it's kind of like, you know, giving
Starting point is 00:22:43 jewelry to your wife. I mean, I've seen it over and over from birds to primates. These animals will court they'll dance, romance. Listen, sometimes there's something no, no more romantic than doing a wonderful dance with your, with your partner. And gosh, animals are the prime example of that. You look at some of the dances some of these animals do from, you know, lemurs to, to, to birds, to birds of paradise, to these manne do from, you know, lemurs to birds,
Starting point is 00:23:05 to birds of paradise, to these mannequins, all these mannequin birds, the dances they do, look at that, look it up on the internet, you'll see these dances, they do and they flash their wings, they go back and forth and they pat their feet, they do like a flamenco, they do all kinds of stuff, it's fantastic to watch, that's romance man. I love a good dance before I have sex, but Ron, you said something earlier and you're crazy, okay? Because if I let my wife run the show, you know what I'm not having?
Starting point is 00:23:29 Sex. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Trust me when you're having sex do gots is because your wife allows it She's running it. She may make you think you're running the show But at the end of the day, it's her call, but put it on the pole Please do the do animals have the capacity for romance? Yes or no, and do you want to imagine? Stugots seducing anyone Tony what do you have? God and anyone. Tony, what do you have for Ron McGill? Dear God. Ron, all animal tongues are different.
Starting point is 00:24:07 And we were talking about the elephants earlier in Thailand. I fed elephants at part of a sanctuary for elephants. And their tongues are incredibly slimy. Why is it that their tongue is incredibly slimy, but then other tongues are different, maybe more coarse? They use them for different things. Like, what's the difference
Starting point is 00:24:20 between animal tongues and the species? Well, it depends what they're eating. And I think what's happening there is, you know, it's like when you see food that you really, really like, you get excited, you start to salivate. So these elephants are probably, you know, getting very excited that they're going to get these treats that people like you are giving them there. So their saliva starts running quite a bit more. And that makes the tongue a lot more slimy.
Starting point is 00:24:43 And they're also, elephants can't really stick their tongue way out. It kind of protrudes a little bit, but it's not like a giraffe that comes out like, you know, 16 inches. So by constantly being in the mouth with all that saliva, the tongue appears to be more slimy when it's really, it's not really producing the saliva. It's just, you know, keeping it on its surface because it's always in its mouth. Ron, there's a video of an eagle, a bald eagle carrying what appears to be a midsize deer. At least a shami. Yeah, at least. Right. And it made me wonder what is the strongest bird in terms of being able to carry X times their own weight. It's always the harpy.
Starting point is 00:25:23 He always takes the harpy. Look at that. Dan has It's always the harpy. He always takes the harpy eagle. Look at that. Dan has learned. It is the harpy eagle. It's the most powerful bird of prey on earth. That thing can carry a small child away. I feel like the harpy eagle is your answer for any eagle question overrated eagle.
Starting point is 00:25:35 No, it's not. It's not. It's not. Because if you want to go with the eagle that is not the brightest eagle in the world, it's not going to be the harpy eagle. OK. It's the bald eagle. The harpy eagle is the most impressive animal in the animal kingdom, according to Ron McGill. It's a pretty impressive animal, Dan. It's an incredible bird. I mean,
Starting point is 00:25:56 you can go and, you know, that's the golden eagle right there. So it's a golden eagle that got a chamois. That's the chamois that you see right there. I saw that same video. It's pretty impressive. I mean, don't get me wrong. It's very impressive. But you'll see those golden eagles. They'll get full grown foxes. They'll take down and fly away with full grown foxes.
Starting point is 00:26:12 What is the biggest eagle that still got a big big animal that could carry? Don Lebatard. We got a freany hardaway. A freany? Who was a freany hardaway? I was trying to read fast. UD was on the team.
Starting point is 00:26:33 Luke Jackson. Bobby Jones. The Matrix, Sean Marion. Stugats. Zo, Shax, Mush Parker. Chris Quinn. Wait a minute. D-Wave.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Wait a minute. Jason Williams, they're all right-Wade, Jason Williams, D'Roll, right? I mean, stacked roster. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats! Before we get to Billy's idea on how to save baseball, Greg Cody, do you have any more reheated football takes that you think are going to be better on Tuesday than they were immediately after the games on Sunday or on Monday. Cause I have one, I saw Michael Irvin say on
Starting point is 00:27:13 whatever the name of that show is with Skip Bayless, I'm not being disrespectful there, I don't know that, is it undisputed, undisputed. Yes. He said that it is a fireable offense for the Ravens coaching staff to allow Travis Kelsey to complete, have 11 receptions on 11 targets. And I'm thinking they were trying to stop it.
Starting point is 00:27:37 I'm thinking everyone's trying to stop that at all times and it's not something that would appear to be stoppable given that Travis Kelsey always has a hundred yards in every game that I'm watching even though everyone knows you have to stop him. Evidently the Ravens tight ends can be stopped because I saw that happen Sunday. I have not seen in my lifetime since he's had Mahomes a Travis Kelsey that can be stopped. I actually agree with that because he's the one weapon consistently that Mahomes has had the entire season and you know he's gonna try to get the ball to Travis Kelsey. You can't let Travis Kelsey be the guy that beats you
Starting point is 00:28:12 in that game. You can't. I understand but he does and he did because he's the best we've ever seen and I'm of the argument like I understand how everyone arrives at these conclusions because Mike did it yesterday and Mike was doing a game planning critique that a ton of people were doing. Why didn't Baltimore run the ball more? But I think of the Ravens as being an exceptionally run organization. I think of John Harbaugh as not only being a champion, but being pretty smart. And sometimes you trust your team to be better than the other guys at what they do.
Starting point is 00:28:45 The Ravens take away the middle of the field and take away tight ends because of their linebackers and because of their safety. They couldn't take away that one. They had to take away that one and it's a fireball offense because you lose if you want to make it a fireball offense but I haven't seen the coach that can stop Travis Kelsey. Mike McDonald is one of the hottest head coaching
Starting point is 00:29:04 candidates because of the work that he's Travis Kelce. Mike McDonald is one of the hottest head coaching candidates because of the work that he's done as defensive coordinator to suggest that he should be fired because Travis Kelce, arguably the greatest time of all time, had a great performance in the playoffs is television. That's what that is. It's debate television, but Travis Kelce hadn't been playing well entering these playoffs.
Starting point is 00:29:24 He put up a three for 16 against the Cincinnati Bengals. Are you familiar with that defense's work this season? There's plenty of reason to look at Travis Kelsey and say, okay, he's one of the greatest of all time. Additionally, he appears to be declining because how can you not at that age when you consider where you've set the bar? But he hasn't had a good season by his standards My point is if you're the Ravens and you could have been undefeated because you had fourth quarter leads in all the games You lost
Starting point is 00:29:56 Do you trust your guys to be good at the thing? They've been excellent at or not you change everything you do you change it all Because Travis Kelsey is coming into town and now you now you're gonna have Patrick Mahomes beat you in some other way because you're gonna what double and triple team Travis Kelsey? No but you trust your guys but you also have to make slight adjustments depending on who it is that you're playing like for me there's no reason to guard Marquez Valdez scantling just throw him the ball and let's see what happens okay because he might not catch it I would put everyone on
Starting point is 00:30:28 Travis Kelsey and Rice and that's it and force the other guys to beat me and more so now than a few years ago when when Mahomes had Tyreek Hill at least you could say all right they need to cover Tyree they need to worry more about Tyreek Hill now if you're defending the chiefs, you're not that worried about Pacheco, you're gonna give him his 100 yard rushing, you're worried about Travis Kelsey and without a great, as you say, without a great... Are you guys of the opinion that Harbaugh didn't understand that he needed to slow Kelsey in that game, that it snuck up on him?
Starting point is 00:30:58 And yet didn't do it. I know, but... But he didn't, that's the point. It's's not crazy to say hey like our objective here is to stop Travis Kelsey from eating and have the other guys who can't catch the ball and drop it constantly beat us and If Travis Kelsey beats us we didn't execute the game plan and this may have been our best shot at a Super Bowl So there have to be changes. It's not crazy. They held the chiefs to 17 points You're hosting the AFC Championship game. That needs to be good enough.
Starting point is 00:31:27 It needs to be good enough. They held everyone else in check. Even Mahomes, especially in that second half, Mahomes made the one play that he had to to seal the game. This was a Ravens offense loss. Their game plan was let's have the best cover safety in the league against tight ends cover the best tight end in football. Kyle Hamilton, the only touchdown he's led up for a tight end
Starting point is 00:31:49 was that one handed catch that was a back shoulder throw that Kelsey made an incredible grab on, one of the two touchdowns that the Chiefs had. Kyle Hamilton was that piece. He was healthy, he was back in, and he just got the better one. My points, Dugots, just so that the people understand what my point is, because I do understand
Starting point is 00:32:04 when you're armed with the result, we are all experts. And I heard plenty of analysis like Mike Ryan's where people were saying everywhere, why didn't the Ravens run the Ball Mord? It seems obvious to me in retrospect, having watched the game, that's Bagnola's game plan was take away the tight ends and make Lamar Jackson beat you with his arm. They threw 40 times. But my question to the group here is the following. You think John Harbaugh is good at his job?
Starting point is 00:32:34 Yes. Yes. You think that organization is as good as any that there's been in football this century? Yes? Yes. If they're not able to run the ball, and I told you yesterday that the Chief's defense over the last five weeks has been better at stopping the run than anybody, is it because John Harbaugh knows less about what he's doing there than we
Starting point is 00:33:00 do, or is it because the Chief's might have taken something away that you're not understanding because when we're watching the game, we don't have the sophistication about what the adjustments have to be. All we've got is the criticism once you've got the results. Well, we have the sets that say the Ravens were twice as good at running the ball than the Chiefs were in that game. And that every time that they decided to hand the ball off or have Lamar Jackson carry, it was a really positive play for them outside of handing it to Justice Hill who was terrible in pass protection as well. You can say they took away the tight ends, Mark Andrews coming back from a lengthy injury, but this was the offense failing. This was the offense about to score at the one,
Starting point is 00:33:39 and fumbling at the one as a flowers tried to extend the ball. And I know Bill Belichick has famously said, you don't reach for the touchdown at the one, as A Flowers tried to extend the ball, and I know Bill Belichick has famously said, you don't reach for the touchdown at the one yard line because things like that can happen. The offense failed, the quarterback had a bad day, and the offensive coordinator, Monk, had a really bad day. Agreed, agreed. My point is when the offense has a bad day,
Starting point is 00:34:00 is it allowed to be because the defense did that to the offensive? Does it always have to be? Their game plan was shit. No, 100%, the defense did that to the offensive? Does it always have to be their game plan was shit? No, 100% the defense has been incredible. Spags is one of the best defensive coordinators ever. Lamar Jackson is going to win a second MVP this season. They totally held them in check from an off, and there were a couple big time breakdowns
Starting point is 00:34:19 where Zay Flowers got behind people in ways that were a little shocking for a Spagnolo defense, but this was Monkin' veiling. They botched the game plan against the Kansas City Chiefs. They got uncomfortable because they had to chase the game early on, and they got away from their game plan. It didn't make any sense watching. I think Mike is right.
Starting point is 00:34:37 This is a team, and this is an offense that scored 38 points against the Lions, 50 plus against the Dolphins, scored 30 plus against San Francisco, had 37 against the LA Rams. Like this is a good offense that really didn't come to play. It just failed on Sunday. They did. They failed in a spectacular way.
Starting point is 00:34:55 The Chiefs are in the Super Bowl because of their defense. Mahomes did not have a particularly good season by his standards, but any team with Mahomes on it is never going to get the credit maybe deserved on defense. The Chiefs had a great defense this season, not a good one, a great one, elite. But that's top three. But if you're going to say that, can you just parse for me the degrees on this, on how much when you say and you're right, Raven's offense failed. Whatever they were scheming did not work. 10 points not enough. Chiefs score 17, you should be able to beat them.
Starting point is 00:35:31 You guys are saying all the right things. I'm asking you to make the distinction between how much time you spend criticizing the game plan of people whose life's work is invested for many, many decades in making sure that they're prepared for that game. And the easiest thing for us is to take the result afterwards and say, you guys didn't know what you're doing.
Starting point is 00:35:53 And so I'm asking, how much do I blame on the Ravens for their offensive failings? And how much do I say, well, shit, McDuffie, and Sneader kind of amazing. The Dolphins tried to build what the Chiefs have. They said, look, we'll have Howard and Ramsey and we'll make Chubb, Chris Jones and ah. And ah.
Starting point is 00:36:12 We can't do it. We don't have a way to recreate what the Chiefs did. What they do is obviously something that affected whatever Harbaugh's plan was and I'm trusting going in, Harbaugh's got a plan. I think it can be both. I think you can give the Chiefs credit for a great defensive plan, and you can blame Lamar Jackson for once again having a really inferior game when they needed him to be at his best. But if you ask every coach in the NFL, every all 32-head coaches,
Starting point is 00:36:43 how about you give up an average of 17 points a game on defense over the course of the season would you take that every one of them would say yes when you hold the other team to 17 points you're expected to win that game and you better be prepared to score more than 10 points and that's the story of this game. In watching it I kind of experienced like Lamar Jackson was holding on to the ball, trying to prove a point passing the ball, because there were several opportunities in that game
Starting point is 00:37:14 where Lamar Jackson, arguably the greatest runner we've ever seen at that position, could have taken a 12-yard chunk, and he decided to hold the ball, and then the ensuing result was a coverage sack. He just had a really bad game and the offense had a game plan where they were chasing this game.
Starting point is 00:37:32 If I tell you, the guy that scored the third most touchdowns in this sport, you're starting running back and granted they've had injuries there, is averaging six yards every time he touches the ball, but he only musters up three carries with 20 yards. You're wondering what happened there. Surely this game got out of hand
Starting point is 00:37:52 and they had to throw from behind and they were down three scores. That game was always within striking distance. They just started chasing the game in a very odd fashion for them. Lamar Jackson here almost reminds me if you go cross sport to Yanisantz to Kumpo and his first couple of years
Starting point is 00:38:07 winning MVP and then failing in the post season where you're looking around and wondering is this him coming up short? Is it the surrounding roster? Is it the scheme that Bud is putting out there as a coach at the time? Because you're looking around and wondering how could this possibly flail in this way
Starting point is 00:38:24 come the post season when you're looking at this remarkable athlete doing things we haven't seen anyone else do with their position so it's almost kind of similar and you have to hope if you're Lamar Jackson that that your career starts to take that same arc. I thought that Lamar Jackson had a pretty telling quote before the game and we didn't talk about it on this show but he said of Patrick Mahomes, I hate playing him. He's one in three in his career against Patrick Mahomes. Patrick Mahomes has seemingly stolen victory
Starting point is 00:38:51 from the Jaws of Defeat against Lamar Jackson and in watching that game, I think this guy's pressing against Patrick Mahomes given their history and he plays out a character. But Mike, your point about not rushing the ball is probably the best point because this is by far the number one rushing team in the NFL. By far, Dan, that is a terrible job at John Horbaugh.
Starting point is 00:39:12 You need to run the ball.

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