The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Mining For Liquid Gold
Episode Date: January 30, 2024Stugotz is weeks late to a few discoveries, and Greg Cote is a day late to his takes on this weekend's NFL games. Greg also teaches us the only proper way to eat a fried egg. Then, Ron Magill is here ...to teach us about the greatest lovers in the animal kingdom. Plus, how are we supposed to discuss Lamar Jackson and the Ravens after their loss to the Chiefs? Where do we place the blame? Sports talk! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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You're listening to DraftKings Network.
Welcome to the big sui, presented by DraftKings.
Why are you listening to this show?
The podcast that seems very similar
to the other Dan LeBatard podcast.
I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
I have been tempted in restaurants
just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries
if they're just there.
That hasn't happened to you guys?
I've done it.
And now, here's the marching man to nowhere,
fat face and the habitual liar.
We do have a lot of things to get to.
Stugas hasn't just discovered that the sons might be good,
but he's also discovered that Shannon Sharp is good at the take.
Yes.
And he has discovered as well that Tom Brady is sharpening the take,
trying to get better at the take.
It is not a strength.
We will get to that in a moment.
Greg Cody has a lot of thoughts on eggs
that we have to get to.
It's all he brought in today.
When he was asked if he had any thoughts on anything,
all he brought in was the proper way to eat eggs
and we'll get to that in just a second.
Other than all the other stuff on my list of...
Like hitting the microphone with your thermos.
That was on there as well.
I checked that off as soon as that happened.
He also has day old football takes.
He's got a lot of those that he wants to get to.
So it's not just eggs, it's also,
the expiration date on some of these takes is expired,
but he wants to get them off anyway.
Okay, so let me get this straight. The Super Bowl is in like 10 days, but it's already a dead topic.
Like, you can't talk about a Super Bowl that's happening February 11th because you didn't talk
about it yesterday. I don't think you want to talk about the Super Bowl. You want to talk about the
games that we already talked about on Sunday night and Monday morning.
Well, it's because what Dan Campbell did is rob America of the Super Bowl America wanted,
which is Detroit in it.
Dan Campbell, he kneecapped his own team.
He made two decisions in the fourth quarter that literally cost them the Super Bowl.
So this is you previewing the Super Bowl, right?
These are not reheated takes from two days ago.
I think Greg is upset because he feels like the better matchup would have been Kansas
City and Detroit.
He would have preferred to see that, and he's right.
Dan Campbell robbed us of that opportunity.
Tom Brady agrees.
Right.
Baltimore and Detroit would have been the ideal Super Bowl.
And Lamar Jackson failed, but that's fine.
That's what he does, apparently, in the playoffs.
But Dan Campbell, his macho...
You're previewing the Super Bowl by talking about all of the people and players that aren't in the Super Bowl.
No, he's previewing his preview of the Super Bowl.
He hasn't gotten to the points yet. He's just telling us what they will be.
The Ravens did beat the hell out of the Lions earlier in the season, but you still wanted
to see a rematch of that in the Super Bowl?
I did.
And because of Wishful Betts, I think there's a chance Detroit might have actually been
favored because by then they would have been, you know, the team of Destiny and all that
bullshit.
No, no, no, no, they would not have been favored.
I think they might have been.
Craig! A lot of people place Wishful Betts. Craig! Well, you don't, you don't, Craig would not have been favorite. I think they might have been. A lot of people place wishful bets.
Greg.
We'll never know because Dan Campbell ruined it.
Well, hold on a second, because the Niners are favored, and so if Detroit beat San Francisco
in San Francisco, you don't think maybe a one point favorite?
Detroit was a seven point dog at San Francisco.
They weren't going to be a favorite against Baltimore.
You don't know that, do you?
No, I do know that.
I know that as much as I know anything I've ever known.
I have no way to know that.
There's betting trends.
That's why the Jets-
There is a way to know that.
They'll never know.
The Jets and the Giants are always over-bet.
Their lines are always off by a point or two because of wishful bets.
America who does-
Greg.
Americans who never bet would have bet on the Lions
just because they hoped it happened.
Greg ain't lying.
You don't understand how.
I'm not lying.
Like the pride of a lion.
The book that you can get anywhere now, including Amazon.
Well done.
But I'm not lying about this.
The Detroit Lions, because of wishful bets
from one time betters, might have been favored over Baltimore.
You should have led with eggs.
Could you imagine how great that would have been for business
to end for Greg? The Lions make the super-obvious say,
you know what, Lions, that's an interesting animal.
I want to know more about Lions. What's this?
That's right, exactly right.
Pride of a lion? A brand new book?
I heard Stugott saying that what he wants to do in Vegas next week
is take Greg Cody along
Radio Row with that book and just force him on nasty nester on morning radio in
Baltimore and force Greg Cody upon an assortment of radio enterprise. I want
to be his handler. I want to walk Greg through Radio Row. I know where all the
tables are set up. I know who is sitting where because I am the mayor of Radio
Row. They send me the table diagrams before the people even know where all the tables are set up. I know who is sitting where because I am the mayor of Radio Row.
They send me the table diagrams
before the people even know where it is they're sitting.
So I know where all the big shows are set up.
I have accessed all the big shows.
I would like to walk Greg around Radio Row
and I will get him on every radio show in America.
We have to do this.
Yes.
Well, the key to that is what Stugatsu's saying
is he needs a handler, if not two handlers.
You need some sort of commotion hubbub around him and then people will be coming to you
saying, who's that?
Who's that?
Who's that?
Who's that?
Oh, that's Greg Cody from the Dan Labrador Show with Stugats.
Oh, that's Greg Cody from the Greg Cody Show with Greg Cody.
And then that's how you get them on the shows.
You need a hubbub around him.
You need like a, almost like the, you know, pig pen from Peanuts, how he has that smoke cloud around him.
That's what Greg needs at Radio Row.
We've effectively done this before in the past,
because Roy had a resemblance to Terrell Owens at the time.
We just had a bunch of people walking around Roy,
and we convinced everyone around us that he was actually TO,
and then we sat him down next to Ryan Howard
and Jared Fogle of Subway,
which was very unfortunate in retrospect.
Wow, that did not age well that bit.
The hypothetical line provided by DraftKings on Baltimore, Detroit is Baltimore favored
by three and a half.
That's all, huh?
We do know.
Not seven.
Well, you don't know.
It's a hypothetical.
Right, you don't know.
They just made that up.
What's a lot of kickoff, right?
What do they know? Draft Kings?
Yeah.
I mean, what does anybody know?
I meant to say.
Draft Kings knows more than us.
Right about that.
Can save and abuse.
I mean, if anybody knows it's Draft Kings, but nobody knows.
You know, nobody knows.
And wishful...
You never heard the theory of wishful betting?
The Crown is yours.
They set the betting lines.
They send...
They send...
The people who set the betting lines.
That actually counts as a library, I think, promo code Dan.
And betting lines move.
He's the kind of yours?
You may not have noticed betting lines move.
Well said.
Not three and a half points, they don't.
No, but they set the line.
Yeah, the public decides.
Right.
If a quarterback is injured, it moves three and a half points.
Can we go with the eggs?
If a quarterback's injured, we just want eggs.
So now it's moved to, now it's moved to,
well, if Lamar Jackson was hurt
All right, maybe Detroit
I mean if you open the hypothetical door, yeah, you have a known thing in eggs
Yeah, that would deliver eggs are incredible, huh?
The incredible egg who's the first person that saw them thought you know what I want that in my mouth
No, what's it the chicken who knows?
Greg what is the proper way to eat the eggs the way that you were talking about eating
them?
We're talking about a fried egg. You know, there's a million different ways you can
make eggs, obviously. The fried egg requires you to crack the shell just perfectly. It's
all in the shell cracking with a fried egg.
But what I was wondering is,
I have a particular way of eating a fried egg.
And I like the fried egg over, I like that yolk runny.
But the way I eat a fried egg,
and this is out of curiosity,
I'm asking if others do the same.
I eat around the yolk, I eat all the white of the egg first.
And you have to be as delicate as a surgeon.
No yellow?
No yolk. Let me finish.
Let him cook, Dan. Let him cook.
You have to be as delicate as a surgeon
to get around that yolk without breaking it.
If you nick the yolk and the yellow starts running,
the entire thing is ruined.
So what you do is you carefully eat around,
you eat all the white, and at the end, what you have is you carefully eat around you eat all the white and at the end what you have is a giant yellow
Eye alone on the plate staring at you the yolk of the egg and then
You take your triangle of toast off the sharp point
You jab it gently right in the middle of the eye
The eye starts oozing yellow gold and then you dip the
toast in it and that's when your egg comes alive. The white is superfluous.
The white is superfluous. People who eat these white omelets and no yolk in the
oven, forget about that. The egg does its work when you get to the yolk and that's
how to eat a fried egg. But I'm curious if I'm alone on that
or if other people do that.
I should have started with that.
Well done.
I should have started with that.
I'm gonna go do other people do that.
That was beautiful.
Do you really?
Well done, man.
That was really well done with the eggs.
Bon pantotá.
Are you serious?
I'm gonna try it that way.
I actually really like the yolk,
and I like it when the yolk goes over the egg white,
and you don't like to mix the two flavors,
but I'm gonna try it your way
because of how beautifully you put that. It is liquid gold, I'm telling you. The problem with that
is that when you're eating the egg whites, you're getting no flavor.
You're waiting for the payoff and all you're doing is eating egg whites that are so dry
that I'd prefer just a little yellow in the egg whites to give it a little bit of flavor
so I don't feel like I'm just eating printed paper.
Well cook your eggs better, number one.
Number two, you salt and pepper
the yellow. The yellow doesn't need salt and pepper. Let's get that straight. Liquid gold.
The white does. You carefully salt and pepper around the yolk and that way the white of
the egg is not a pleasurable experience like the yolk but more than tolerable because you
know what? You know you're getting to the yolk. but more than tolerable, because you know what?
You know you're getting to the yolk.
You know, it's like you're mining for gold.
It's a slow buildup, Dan.
Four play.
It is.
That's exactly what it is.
It's a sexual experience in the breakfast table.
Dan, I know you've done it with Banco Montaguea,
where you wait for that last drop and then,
you hit it with the egg.
Oh my God, so good.
It's beautiful.
It's the best thing in cuisine.
It really is, the yolk of an egg.
Well, you guys tell me as Cubans there in the back row.
Badaam!
That's me honoring the chicken.
That's the sound of a chicken.
And when I eat an egg yolk,
I have mad respect for the person who laid it.
Do you think the chickens are proud?
Like when you eat an egg and you enjoy it,
the chicken views it as like, the chicken's the chef
of this egg and is proud to serve you this meal.
No, it's beautiful.
It's a wonderful thing and the chickens act proud.
I don't know if you've ever watched chickens.
Certain struts sometimes they lay the egg
and then they don't even strut.
They saunter through the farm yard, they're going,
badaip!
You know, they're like very, badaip you know, they're like very... Badaip.
Yeah, they're the cock of the walk.
Badaip, well they're not.
Well, but they're like that, they're all poultry.
Yeah.
Even turkeys, you know, with the big thing,
the big red thing, they're walking around,
they have no idea they're about to have their head chopped off.
They're oblivious, but until they die,
a proud bird. A proud bird. They're a proudious. But until they die of a proud birth,
they're a proud bird.
A proud bird.
And they show it, unlike some animals.
Yeah.
They show it.
Yeah.
What I was gonna ask the back row is,
what do you imagine is better to dip your
panko mantequilla in the yolk or cafe con leche?
Hey, oh, you want some pasta and seafood dishes
with fresh fish?
Mmm.
You split the baby in two, you have one bomb
and you put it in the egg and then you pick one.
Pick one, you coward.
Cafe con leche.
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Don Libertad!
I miss crank windows.
Too many unnecessary conveniences now.
Cruise control.
Please, I've got cruise control built in.
It's called my right foot.
It controls how fast the car goes.
No button for steering wheel lever needed.
Power steering.
There's another one. Why don't I give my power to the car?
The power that I once had.
The car is a ton of metal.
I'm a damn college graduate.
Stugatz.
Bluetooth, HD radio, satellite.
I'll take AM, please, with Wolfman Jack talking through the static.
And I'll crank the windows down so everybody can hear.
I'm Greg Cody and that's how it was back in my day.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugarts.
Tony is trying to get my attention subliminally with his Things to Ponder file.
We will get to that at some point.
But Ron McGill joins us as he has our longest standing guest, I believe.
Certainly our longest standing regular guest,
The Pride of a Lion, the book that he did with Greg Cody
continues to be a bestseller on some very obscure lists.
You can get it wherever it is that you get your books.
I wanna start though, Ron, with the Rhino Beetle this week
because I was sent some video from a listener showing me that the
rhino beetle can somehow lift about 850 times its weight. We have talked very often about some of the
things in the animal kingdom that have more power than you would expect. So give me an idea of how
rare the strength of the rhino beetle is here and how many animals or insects
of any kind you would put up against it in a test of strength?
Well, that's incredibly powerful, of course, but a lot of invertebrates, you know, ants
are a classic example of these invertebrates that can pick up so much more than their own
weight.
I mean, hundreds of times, I don't know if it's 800 times like the rhino beetle, I don't
have the exact stat, but ants are notorious for their ability to pick up some major, major weight.
But the rhino beetle is, you know, it's a tank. It's a tank of an insect.
It's got a huge, very, very hard ectoskeleton.
So it is probably the Arnold Schwarzenegger of the insect world.
What else would you put in there outside of the insect world. What else would you put in there outside of the insect world?
Things that might surprise us,
animals who might surprise us with their strength.
Look at leopards.
Look at what a leopard could bring up a tree.
I've seen a leopard bring up almost a full grown,
you know, half grown, will the beast up a tree?
Something that weighs twice as much as the leopard.
Literally grab it by its neck
and climb up a tree with its legs,
holding this
thing in its mouth dragging it up to the top of the tree I've seen lepros
drag things up into trees and I'm going this is unbelievable so that they're an
incredibly powerful animal. Ron bullfighting is back in Mexico after
I saw that after being disallowed for two years and Humane Society International
refers to the bulls suffering from a protracted death
tantamount to torture in the bullfighting arena.
My question, why isn't there any sort of international advocacy for animals that reach the legal
level?
Like why isn't something like that illegal?
It is in this country.
You know, it all depends on the country's laws.
And that's where, you know, you get into international law and you have to be very, very careful.
I think countries are incredibly wary of someone else telling them what to do in their own home.
The objective here is to try to just change the culture.
And I mean, Mexico was on its way.
It started to outlaw bullfighting in several of its states, but there's still that old traditional culture.
And unfortunately, I think that is going to have to wait until those generations die off. If you go to these
bullfights, you'll see that the majority of the people there are, you know, fairly elderly
in age as far as they're not the teenagers, the young people as much. There are a lot
of older people and that generation just has to kind of, God, I hate to say it this way,
die off. I mean, that mentality has to die off.
Can you guys in video please put up for me
this elephant video of an elephant with its trunk
tearing down a tree.
I know you've talked before about the strength
of the elephant and the strength of the elephant's trunk,
but this video walk us through it Ron
Yeah elephants will knock down tree because they love to eat the bark. They love to eat the pulp of wood
They also love to eat the trees so this elephant and I've seen this also with actually trees bigger than that
We're a big bull going there and knocked the whole thing down and what it does is it provides itself with a buffet
They're incredibly intelligent animals. I've also seen them go and shake trees, you know, like the marula tree has a marula fruit
on it and they'll go up there and they'll shake these trees and all the fruits fall
off and it's wonderful.
So again, elephant is one of the most intelligent animals on earth, incredibly powerful animal.
So they use that strength to their benefit, which in that case is to knock down a big smorgasbord.
I'm going to put up here some elephant porn now
because the cheese.
Well, it's just elephants having sex,
like really going at it.
What percentage of elephants,
because this is difficult to do, it's a difficult act,
what percentage of elephants go through their entire life
without ever having sex, Ron?
I couldn't give you an exact number, Dan, but I would think that the majority are going
to be males that don't have the sex because males will fight with each other to, you know,
to have the territory.
So unless he's able to escape, do we have to keep showing this over and over?
Yes, Ron.
Yes, we do.
The most incredible part of elephant sex
is actually the elephant penis itself.
It's like a fire hose.
That thing comes out and the elephant just mounts the female
and the penis does all the work.
And then it swings around like a fire hose.
You tie it to our fire hydrant, let it go.
And that's what it looks like.
It's just, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo, woo,
looking for that opening.
When it finds the opening, then it does all the work itself.
But it's pretty incredible to watch
I mean that thing is like a fifth of appendage. It's pretty impressive
Well, you've told me before that the rhinos it all of this is painful right because the animal that is on top is
Is so heavy that it's gonna hurt the other animals back
Well generally speaking yes and elephants especially the bulls are much bigger than the cows
They generally speaking have no more than usually about 30 seconds on the top of the female
before she can no longer withstand his weight.
Now with rhinos it's a little different
because males and females are very similar in size.
I've seen a female rhino carry a male on her back
around for an hour at a time
with the male ejaculating every two to five minutes
without even doing any kind of pelvic thrusting
because the vaginal walls of the female
Most of course, it's gotta be a female rhino. Just kind of do all the work
The male just stays up there and all of a sudden every like, you know two to five minutes
He does this shutter type thing
I don't think he's faking it for her and that's when he's ejaculating and you'll see all this white
I can't believe I'm talking about this on this show because
Ron you ever watch any videos of animals mating
and take some notes, learn some tricks?
Like which animal, I guess, would humans most be able
to learn from in that area?
The best in there.
I think there are a lot of animals
that people can learn from.
First of all, just in the whole dating process.
You know, a lot of people think with animals,
it's just like the, you know, oh gosh, they're kids listening. You know, it's just a quickie type thing. It's not that way. Animals go
through a very distinctive courtship process. The male is asking permission. The female is making
the selection. Generally speaking, in animal kingdom is the female that runs the show. I know
it's that way with a lot of us as well. But guys, when you realize that you need to let the female
run that show, you'll be a lot happier.
And the fact is, you know, there's an orangutan. I'll never we have an orangutan had an orangutan who habitually would perform oral sex on the females while using his fingers to stimulate her in other area.
I mean, this guy was a multitasker to the max.
I watched him and go, guys, like, I don't know if they were watching films in the back or what was going on.
But that guy was just and he was a god of reproduction.
He was unbelievable.
Speaking of reproduction, German scientists have turned to in vitro fertilization to help
save the white rhino species.
They finally successfully impregnated a rhino.
What is your thought on turning to IVF to save endangered species?
I think it's absolutely something that it needs to be, needs to be endorsed because
at the end of the day, we do it for people, you know, and I know there's going to be some
religious zealots that say, oh, you know, this is not God's way.
No, God gave us the intelligence to learn this, to help correct the bad things that we have done
that have created these species becoming endangered
and in fact extinct,
if we're not able to reverse that process.
And what we're doing is we're basically
creating a surrogate mother.
You know, we do it in human beings, right?
We do embryo transplants into another person
to carry when a woman cannot carry on her own
to give her the child. Well, here we're doing, you know, we've
done it with a lot of other animals. We've taken zebras,
endangered zebras and put their embryos into horses, domestic
horses that have given birth to a full-fledged endangered zebra.
We've done that with endangered types of antelope and cattle. So
to do this with rhinos, it's just such an iconic animal that
some people, you know, that there's some extremists, like,
oh, this is not, you know, not the natural way we shouldn't be doing
this. No, we should be doing it because this is something we have to do to correct
the mistakes we've made in the past. It's knowledge that we have now to help
save an endangered species. And I'm all for it. And I'm really
I'm proud of the scientists that have dedicated so much time to make this
possible.
I'm all for it and I'm really proud of the scientists that have dedicated so much time to make this possible.
Ron, do animals have a capacity for romance?
Absolutely they do.
Absolutely they do.
I've seen that in all kinds of animals where they come and bring presents, you know, they're
bring gifts to the females, they get her, you know, it's kind of like, you know, giving
jewelry to your wife.
I mean, I've seen it over and over from birds to primates.
These animals will court they'll dance, romance.
Listen, sometimes there's something no, no more romantic than doing a wonderful dance
with your, with your partner.
And gosh, animals are the prime example of that.
You look at some of the dances some of these animals do from, you know, lemurs to, to,
to birds, to birds of paradise, to these manne do from, you know, lemurs to birds,
to birds of paradise, to these mannequins, all these mannequin birds, the dances they
do, look at that, look it up on the internet, you'll see these dances, they do and they
flash their wings, they go back and forth and they pat their feet, they do like a flamenco,
they do all kinds of stuff, it's fantastic to watch, that's romance man.
I love a good dance before I have sex, but Ron, you said something earlier and you're
crazy, okay?
Because if I let my wife run the show,
you know what I'm not having?
Sex. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Trust me when you're having sex do gots is because your wife allows it She's running it. She may make you think you're running the show
But at the end of the day, it's her call, but put it on the pole
Please do the do animals have the capacity for romance? Yes or no, and do you want to imagine?
Stugots
seducing anyone
Tony what do you have?
God and anyone. Tony, what do you have for Ron McGill? Dear God.
Ron, all animal tongues are different.
And we were talking about the elephants earlier in Thailand.
I fed elephants at part of a sanctuary for elephants.
And their tongues are incredibly slimy.
Why is it that their tongue is incredibly slimy,
but then other tongues are different,
maybe more coarse?
They use them for different things.
Like, what's the difference
between animal tongues and the species?
Well, it depends what they're eating.
And I think what's happening there is, you know, it's like when you see food that you
really, really like, you get excited, you start to salivate.
So these elephants are probably, you know, getting very excited that they're going to
get these treats that people like you are giving them there.
So their saliva starts running quite a bit more.
And that makes the tongue a lot more slimy.
And they're also, elephants can't really stick their
tongue way out. It kind of protrudes a little bit, but it's not like a giraffe that comes
out like, you know, 16 inches. So by constantly being in the mouth with all that saliva, the
tongue appears to be more slimy when it's really, it's not really producing the saliva.
It's just, you know, keeping it on its surface because it's always in its mouth. Ron, there's a video of an eagle, a bald eagle carrying what appears to be a midsize deer.
At least a shami. Yeah, at least.
Right. And it made me wonder what is the strongest bird in terms of being able to carry
X times their own weight. It's always the harpy.
He always takes the harpy.
Look at that. Dan has It's always the harpy. He always takes the harpy eagle. Look at that.
Dan has learned.
It is the harpy eagle.
It's the most powerful bird of prey on earth.
That thing can carry a small child away.
I feel like the harpy eagle is your answer for any eagle
question overrated eagle.
No, it's not.
It's not.
It's not.
Because if you want to go with the eagle that is not
the brightest eagle in the world, it's not
going to be the harpy eagle.
OK. It's the bald eagle. The harpy eagle is the most impressive animal in the animal kingdom,
according to Ron McGill. It's a pretty impressive animal, Dan. It's an incredible bird. I mean,
you can go and, you know, that's the golden eagle right there. So it's a golden eagle that got a
chamois. That's the chamois that you see right there. I saw that same video.
It's pretty impressive.
I mean, don't get me wrong.
It's very impressive.
But you'll see those golden eagles.
They'll get full grown foxes.
They'll take down and fly away with full grown foxes.
What is the biggest eagle that still got a big
big animal that could carry?
Don Lebatard.
We got a freany hardaway.
A freany?
Who was a freany hardaway?
I was trying to read fast.
UD was on the team.
Luke Jackson.
Bobby Jones.
The Matrix, Sean Marion.
Stugats.
Zo, Shax, Mush Parker.
Chris Quinn.
Wait a minute.
D-Wave.
Wait a minute.
Jason Williams, they're all right-Wade, Jason Williams, D'Roll, right?
I mean, stacked roster.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats!
Before we get to Billy's idea on how to save baseball, Greg Cody, do you have any more
reheated football takes that you think are going to be better on Tuesday than they were immediately after the games
on Sunday or on Monday.
Cause I have one, I saw Michael Irvin say on
whatever the name of that show is with Skip Bayless,
I'm not being disrespectful there, I don't know that,
is it undisputed, undisputed.
Yes.
He said that it is a fireable offense
for the Ravens coaching staff to allow Travis Kelsey
to complete, have 11 receptions on 11 targets.
And I'm thinking they were trying to stop it.
I'm thinking everyone's trying to stop that at all times
and it's not something that would appear to be stoppable
given that Travis Kelsey always has a hundred yards in every game that I'm watching even though everyone
knows you have to stop him. Evidently the Ravens tight ends can be stopped because I
saw that happen Sunday. I have not seen in my lifetime since he's had Mahomes a Travis
Kelsey that can be stopped. I actually agree with that because he's the one weapon consistently
that Mahomes has had the entire season and you know he's gonna try to get the
ball to Travis Kelsey. You can't let Travis Kelsey be the guy that beats you
in that game. You can't. I understand but he does and he did because he's the
best we've ever seen and I'm of the argument like I understand how everyone
arrives at these conclusions because Mike did it yesterday and Mike was doing a game planning critique that a ton of people
were doing.
Why didn't Baltimore run the ball more?
But I think of the Ravens as being an exceptionally run organization.
I think of John Harbaugh as not only being a champion, but being pretty smart.
And sometimes you trust your team to be better than the other guys at what they do.
The Ravens take away the middle of the field
and take away tight ends because of their linebackers
and because of their safety.
They couldn't take away that one.
They had to take away that one and it's a fireball offense
because you lose if you want to make it a fireball offense
but I haven't seen the coach that can stop Travis Kelsey.
Mike McDonald is one of the hottest head coaching
candidates because of the work that he's Travis Kelce. Mike McDonald is one of the hottest head coaching candidates
because of the work that he's done as defensive coordinator
to suggest that he should be fired because Travis Kelce,
arguably the greatest time of all time,
had a great performance in the playoffs is television.
That's what that is.
It's debate television, but Travis Kelce
hadn't been playing well entering these playoffs.
He put up a three for 16 against the Cincinnati Bengals.
Are you familiar with that defense's work this season?
There's plenty of reason to look at Travis Kelsey and say, okay, he's one of the greatest
of all time.
Additionally, he appears to be declining because how can you not at that age when you consider where you've set the bar?
But he hasn't had a good season by his standards
My point is if you're the Ravens and you could have been undefeated because you had fourth quarter leads in all the games
You lost
Do you trust your guys to be good at the thing?
They've been excellent at or not you change everything you do you change it all
Because Travis Kelsey is coming into town and now you now you're gonna have Patrick Mahomes beat
you in some other way because you're gonna what double and triple team Travis
Kelsey? No but you trust your guys but you also have to make slight adjustments
depending on who it is that you're playing like for me there's no reason to
guard Marquez Valdez scantling just throw him the ball and let's see what
happens okay because he might not catch it I would put everyone on
Travis Kelsey and Rice and that's it and force the other guys to beat me and
more so now than a few years ago when when Mahomes had Tyreek Hill at least
you could say all right they need to cover Tyree they need to worry more
about Tyreek Hill now if you're defending the chiefs, you're not that worried about
Pacheco, you're gonna give him his 100 yard rushing, you're worried about Travis Kelsey
and without a great, as you say, without a great...
Are you guys of the opinion that Harbaugh didn't understand that he needed to slow
Kelsey in that game, that it snuck up on him?
And yet didn't do it.
I know, but...
But he didn't, that's the point. It's's not crazy to say hey like our objective here is to stop Travis
Kelsey from eating and have the other guys who can't catch the ball and drop it constantly beat us and
If Travis Kelsey beats us we didn't execute the game plan and this may have been our best shot at a Super Bowl
So there have to be changes. It's not crazy. They held the chiefs to 17 points
You're hosting the AFC Championship game.
That needs to be good enough.
It needs to be good enough.
They held everyone else in check.
Even Mahomes, especially in that second half, Mahomes made the one play that he had to
to seal the game.
This was a Ravens offense loss.
Their game plan was let's have the best cover safety in the league against tight ends cover
the best tight end in football.
Kyle Hamilton, the only touchdown he's led up for a tight end
was that one handed catch that was a back shoulder throw
that Kelsey made an incredible grab on,
one of the two touchdowns that the Chiefs had.
Kyle Hamilton was that piece.
He was healthy, he was back in,
and he just got the better one.
My points, Dugots, just so that the people understand
what my point is, because I do understand
when you're armed with the result, we are all experts.
And I heard plenty of analysis like Mike Ryan's where people were saying everywhere, why didn't
the Ravens run the Ball Mord?
It seems obvious to me in retrospect, having watched the game, that's Bagnola's game plan
was take away the tight ends and make Lamar Jackson beat you with his arm.
They threw 40 times.
But my question to the group here is the following.
You think John Harbaugh is good at his job?
Yes.
Yes.
You think that organization is as good as any that there's been in football this century?
Yes?
Yes.
If they're not able to run the ball, and I told you yesterday that the
Chief's defense over the last five weeks has been better at stopping the run than
anybody, is it because John Harbaugh knows less about what he's doing there than we
do, or is it because the Chief's might have taken something away that you're not
understanding because when we're watching the game, we don't have the sophistication about what the adjustments
have to be. All we've got is the criticism once you've got the results.
Well, we have the sets that say the Ravens were twice as good at running the ball
than the Chiefs were in that game. And that every time that they decided to hand the ball off or
have Lamar Jackson carry, it was a really positive play for them outside of handing it to Justice Hill who was terrible in pass protection as well.
You can say they took away the tight ends, Mark Andrews coming back from a lengthy injury,
but this was the offense failing. This was the offense about to score at the one,
and fumbling at the one as a flowers tried to extend the ball. And I know Bill Belichick
has famously said, you don't reach for the touchdown at the one, as A Flowers tried to extend the ball, and I know Bill Belichick has famously said, you don't reach for the touchdown at the one yard line
because things like that can happen.
The offense failed, the quarterback had a bad day,
and the offensive coordinator, Monk,
had a really bad day.
Agreed, agreed.
My point is when the offense has a bad day,
is it allowed to be because the defense did that
to the offensive?
Does it always have to be? Their game plan was shit. No, 100%, the defense did that to the offensive? Does it always have to be their game plan was shit?
No, 100% the defense has been incredible.
Spags is one of the best defensive coordinators ever.
Lamar Jackson is going to win a second MVP this season.
They totally held them in check from an off,
and there were a couple big time breakdowns
where Zay Flowers got behind people in ways
that were a little shocking for a Spagnolo defense,
but this was Monkin' veiling.
They botched the game plan against the Kansas City Chiefs.
They got uncomfortable because they had to chase
the game early on, and they got away from their game plan.
It didn't make any sense watching.
I think Mike is right.
This is a team, and this is an offense
that scored 38 points against the Lions,
50 plus against the Dolphins,
scored 30 plus against San Francisco, had 37 against the LA Rams.
Like this is a good offense that really didn't come to play.
It just failed on Sunday.
They did.
They failed in a spectacular way.
The Chiefs are in the Super Bowl because of their defense.
Mahomes did not have a particularly good season by his standards,
but any team with Mahomes on it is never going to get the credit maybe deserved on defense. The Chiefs had a great defense this season,
not a good one, a great one, elite. But that's top three. But if you're going to
say that, can you just parse for me the degrees on this, on how much when you say
and you're right, Raven's offense failed. Whatever they were scheming did not work.
10 points not enough.
Chiefs score 17, you should be able to beat them.
You guys are saying all the right things.
I'm asking you to make the distinction
between how much time you spend criticizing
the game plan of people whose life's work is invested
for many, many decades in making sure
that they're prepared for that game.
And the easiest thing for us is to take the result
afterwards and say, you guys didn't know what you're doing.
And so I'm asking, how much do I blame on the Ravens
for their offensive failings?
And how much do I say, well, shit, McDuffie,
and Sneader kind of amazing.
The Dolphins tried to build what the Chiefs have.
They said, look, we'll have Howard and Ramsey
and we'll make Chubb, Chris Jones and ah.
And ah.
We can't do it.
We don't have a way to recreate what the Chiefs did.
What they do is obviously something
that affected whatever Harbaugh's plan was
and I'm trusting going in, Harbaugh's got a plan.
I think it can be both. I think you can give the Chiefs credit for a great defensive plan,
and you can blame Lamar Jackson for once again having a really inferior game when they needed
him to be at his best. But if you ask every coach in the NFL, every all 32-head coaches,
how about you give up an average of 17 points a game
on defense over the course of the season would you take that every one of them would
say yes when you hold the other team to 17 points you're expected to win that game and
you better be prepared to score more than 10 points and that's the story of this game.
In watching it I kind of experienced like Lamar Jackson
was holding on to the ball,
trying to prove a point passing the ball,
because there were several opportunities in that game
where Lamar Jackson, arguably the greatest runner
we've ever seen at that position,
could have taken a 12-yard chunk,
and he decided to hold the ball,
and then the ensuing result was a coverage sack.
He just had a really bad game
and the offense had a game plan
where they were chasing this game.
If I tell you, the guy that scored
the third most touchdowns in this sport,
you're starting running back
and granted they've had injuries there,
is averaging six yards every time he touches the ball,
but he only musters up three carries with 20 yards.
You're wondering what happened there.
Surely this game got out of hand
and they had to throw from behind
and they were down three scores.
That game was always within striking distance.
They just started chasing the game
in a very odd fashion for them.
Lamar Jackson here almost reminds me
if you go cross sport
to Yanisantz to Kumpo and his first couple of years
winning MVP and then failing in the post season
where you're looking around and wondering
is this him coming up short?
Is it the surrounding roster?
Is it the scheme that Bud is putting out there
as a coach at the time?
Because you're looking around and wondering
how could this possibly flail in this way
come the post season when you're looking at this remarkable
athlete doing things we haven't seen anyone else do with their position so
it's almost kind of similar and you have to hope if you're Lamar Jackson that
that your career starts to take that same arc. I thought that Lamar Jackson had a
pretty telling quote before the game and we didn't talk about it on this show but
he said of Patrick Mahomes, I hate playing him.
He's one in three in his career against Patrick Mahomes.
Patrick Mahomes has seemingly stolen victory
from the Jaws of Defeat against Lamar Jackson
and in watching that game, I think this guy's pressing
against Patrick Mahomes given their history
and he plays out a character.
But Mike, your point about not rushing the ball
is probably the best point because this is by far
the number one rushing team in the NFL.
By far, Dan, that is a terrible job at John Horbaugh.
You need to run the ball.