The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Radio Row Tips + Oddball + Thomahawk

Episode Date: February 2, 2024

As the show gets ready to invade Sin City for the Super Bowl, Stu Gotz gives his Top 5 Radio Row Tips. A message to the Knicks nation... Oddball hears you and Amin and Charlotte have some thoughts inc...luding... Jalen Brunson is entering the MVP race! Then, the NBA officially announced the All-Star 3-point faceoff between Stephen Curry and Sabrina Ionescu - are the stakes worth the spectacle? On Thomahawk, Andrew Hawkins and Joe Thomas are joined by Phat Nattt and Juju Gotti to explain why Brock Purdy is more than just a game managing QB! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the big sui, presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants
Starting point is 00:00:29 just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face and the habitual liar. He's going to be exhausted. Chris Cody yesterday power walked for eight minutes
Starting point is 00:00:46 in the studio and was soon thereafter winded. And now he has been dancing throughout the YouTube break with a mean who I did not know was still in town. He's always in town. In the street on the median. We will all be in Las Vegas next week. Everyone's excited about this, correct? Everyone's excited about,
Starting point is 00:01:07 it's going to be a great deal of work. Mike, you don't look terribly excited. No, I'm thrilled. You don't look. My voice gave out. You don't look terribly excited because it is a lot of work to move our entire outfit to Las Vegas, but everyone's moving.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And Stugatz has top five radio row tips. I don't know what we're going to get from Stu gots. He's promised a lot. He's promised to give us a whole bunch of effort and maximum Stu gots while we're in Las Vegas. He's getting out there when you're getting out there early, you're going to be on radio row. Chris Russo taught you, you got to get out there Monday. You got to be there Monday. I'm getting there tomorrow. Chris Russo did tell me once, we sat down, we talked for a little bit. He said, if you're not out here covering the Super Bowl
Starting point is 00:01:50 on radio row on Monday, you're not covering the Super Bowl. That's what he said to me. And he's right. I mean. Is he gonna be there on Monday? He'll be. What have you asked? What have you asked?
Starting point is 00:02:04 Borderline penalty box. Can you make an intro? I thought that the Flanagan's cup being eaten by your dog was the most blasphemy we were going to see today. She didn't eat it. She chewed it. I took it away. Obviously, I'm a good dog mom. I don't let my dog eat things that are going to hurt her tummy. So I took it away.
Starting point is 00:02:23 But you ruined the best cup that we have around here. I agree with that statement. Where will we ever find another? This was the special Marlins one, which by the way, should have been Teal. Sorry, Flanigans, should have been Teal. Can't be Teal. Flanigans gotta be. They do the big cups for October,
Starting point is 00:02:35 they're gonna do a Teal cup for the Marlins. Just saying, if I were their marketing director, I would have put it in Teal. Yeah, well, if I were their marketing director, I'd make them wear Teal all the time. I wouldn't want a Teal cup, would you, Mike? I would want anything with big Papa Joe on it. Okay. Are you ready for top five tips?
Starting point is 00:02:53 These are stookouts. This is learned over a lifetime. Top five keys to radio row, Jenna. Of dominating radio row. Now you are still promising us, but I am not optimistic that you are going to sell Greg Cody's book with Flavor Flav. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:08 On radio row. Uh-huh. Yep. We're working it out. Okay. Yes. It's a great hype, man. We're going to walk Greg through radio row.
Starting point is 00:03:16 What a creative log jam. God bless what Paul has. Sell Greg Cody's book with Flavor Flav. Interview Don Shula from the dead. I've been invited to two places, two houses to stay at in Vegas, Flavor Flav interview Don Shula from the dead. I've been invited to two places, two houses to stay out in Vegas, flavor Flavs and Austin Eckler. I won't go to one of them. You mentioned Shula here. Did you see Stugatz by the way, that the dolphins turned down for their defensive coordinator position, the grandson of Don Shula, Chris Shula, the dolphins rejected
Starting point is 00:03:43 the Shula name for defensive coordinator to replace fangs. I mean, they should. I mean, what has Chris Shula been doing? I mean, that name, you can't, right? I think he's McVeigh adjacent. You're saying if you're a Shula, you get hired by the golf. Usually how the NFL works. Yeah. Usually how the NFL works is that last name means you're good. He's been gone for a while now. I don't, I mean, he's going to be joining God bless football in a couple of weeks. He will. Yes. From the dead, but does he coach? Yes. He's been on the Ram staff for like five years. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, He was in produce at Whole Foods and they just said venture capitalist. Are you name looking for a change of scenery?
Starting point is 00:04:25 I mean, climb the ladder. Did you really just ask the question turned into dolphins interview for defensive coordinator, somebody who was in football? I mean, what did he do to deserve besides having the last name of Shula? What has he done to deserve that interview? He's evidently worked in football on the defensive side of the ball Okay, thanks for listening to my answer If I'm the younger shula though, I'm staying with the Rams. I'm the Rams deco coordinator now
Starting point is 00:04:53 I'm not just I know it's the name and all that you're questioning his bona fides when he just got a Decoordinator job. Yes. I am who you know, he's a little young he works hard Are you anti all nepo babies? I live up to this one weirdly just just this one. All right. Well, you should ask Dawn about it I got hit yesterday with nepo baby And I'm like what nah, you can't if your parents are political exos he can't be hit with that Unless it's like a royal family that's been exiled someone called me a neo baby the other day
Starting point is 00:05:25 and they were like, we know your dad's an executive here and he's not. It was, I was like, do I respond to this one? But I've been called a Nepo baby. Why don't we show progressive insurance? Lucy, that has also happened to me. I've been accused of being John Skipper's daughter before. That's just a sexism thing.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Okay, but why am I being called a Nepo baby? Cause your dad's more famous now. Your dad is on television. Why am I being called the Nepo baby? Cause your dad's more famous. Your dad is on television. Why am I being called? That's right. Top five tips and keys to radio row. According to Stu Godz, who doesn't know that Chris Shula was in football for the last nine years. Shools. God bless football shoes. God bless out there. God bless football had a bunch of guests this week. A.J. Brown was on who else? It just debuted today. Correct. Uh, Devonte Smith, A.J. Brown, Austin Eckler, Mike Golic. We had flavor, flavor earlier this week. We had Colleen Wolf as well. Chris Cody sat in for a bit. We had a fun episode
Starting point is 00:06:22 this week. So you are going to unleash how many God bless footballs next week as we unleash the Stugatz upon radio row. Yeah. I'm looking forward to it, man. For me, radio row is home. It's where I'm most comfortable. It's it's the one year on the calendar I look most forward to. So I'm really excited. One year on the calendar. It is. Well, in terms of, you know, sporting events and us covering that. Tahoe, you say the same thing about. Yeah, in terms of, you know, sporting events and us covering that. Yeah. Tahoe, you say the same thing about,
Starting point is 00:06:47 Yeah, I do. Same thing with Augusta, but this is it. This is radio row. This is where everything's happening. I get to see some friends whose names I don't know. I mean, it's great. Any OLI's are you going right? No, I just got a straight five.
Starting point is 00:06:58 All right. Number five keys. Write them down, Lucy. It's important that you learn this going in. Don't blink. Let me tell you, your time is precious at Radio Row, and I can tell you who's not blinking, Jim Rome's producer. I can tell you who else is not blinking, Christopher Maddog Russo and his producer.
Starting point is 00:07:17 They don't blink, you can't blink. You blink, you miss a guest. Number four. Number four. It's a marathon, not a guest. Number four. It's a marathon, not a sprint, Dan O. You don't wanna come out of the gates Monday with too many guests. Sometimes you just sit there.
Starting point is 00:07:35 You sit there and you let things happen. Interactualize nobody being there on Monday. And you don't leave because here's what happens if you just play the long game, marathon, not a sprint. You're sitting there. Radio row has cleared out all the host of gone home. They're going to the parties. They're doing this. They're doing that. And all of a sudden Troy Aikman, he left some sort of planner that he has back at radio row and he walks in. You couldn't get him four hours ago, but now it's just you and Troy on radio row. You ask him, he does it 15 minutes.
Starting point is 00:08:09 Boom. Play the long game, dad. I'm telling you, that's how you get Merrill Hodge. Hodge. Number three. Lay of the land. I am telling all you right now I go out there I'm going out there tomorrow and the reason I'm going out there is I like to see radio row before anyone else does
Starting point is 00:08:32 I like to know where geo and boomer are sitting before geo and boomer know where they're sitting You need to get a lay of the land know where the tables are at know who's who where they're gonna be That way you can formulate a plan get a lay of the land know where the tables are at, know who's who, where they're going to be. That way you can formulate a plan, get a lay of the land. Know where the food is, the bathrooms. All important. I should tell the audience, by the way, we are very moved by the number of people who have RSVP'd and next week is going to be a different week in our schedule. All of it, everything we're doing next week is going to feel a little bit different because we're moving the show out there. And it's going to be 40 degrees.
Starting point is 00:09:09 In segments. I was encouraged by the recent forecast, the seven day forecast, much better than the 14 day forecast. It was updated, you're right. It less cold. What? I've seen the opposite.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Less cold, less windy, less rainy, all in the last seven days. I don't know if you trust the seven day forecast, but it's far better than the 14 day forecast. But, uh, just so that you know, you can still get in and Thursday right now, Friday is a, it's just everyone is getting there for the weekend and it's going to be an insanity Thursday is a better bet for you. If you want to get at least reasonably close to what it is that we're doing, keep in mind, these are RSVPs and everyone's RSVP to a party that they haven't
Starting point is 00:09:48 shown up on, but we are still really expecting a lot of people there. Don't sleep on Thursday. Thursday is a real special day. We've got something really special cooking. There is a photo op that is once in a lifetime that I hope comes together. Wow. I got that text last night My response was only holy shit. What a great picture that would be number two then don't break You have to be flexible Dan on radio row if you make the mistake Okay of having stakes you're here on your show when there were a million guests out there. If you make the mistake of, you know, stakes on and then all of a sudden Mark Slay with his on steak, Ben, don't break, be flexible. If there's a big guest, he comes to the table. You already have two guests there. Throw a third one into the mix. Okay. You tell your
Starting point is 00:10:37 host to figure it out. That's it. There's no group of more flexible people than sports writers at the Super Bowl too. Good advice. When Pasquarelli can definitely touch his toes. So let's do. Put it on the poll at Levitator show. Can Len Pascarelli touch his toes? Number one, Finger guns.
Starting point is 00:10:53 It seemed like that was the place for it. It seemed like that was the place for it. Finger guns, all right. I had a question mark on it. He's reading poorly. Finger guns, a point to the finger, a nod and a wink, Dan. Moving and shaking. That's what radio row is all about. You have to move through radio row. You don't stop. Someone's going to yell,
Starting point is 00:11:13 Hey, he's two gods. I'll yell back nothing. You know what I give them? I give them a finger gun. I give them a wink. I give them a nod. I have no idea who they are. I just keep it moving. Okay. That is the important part about radio row You stop you shake hands. You have a conversation with an old friend whose name you do not know You are making a big mistake. Why because all of a sudden Joe Montana and Roger Craig walk in I mean Here's Michael buble talking about being on mushrooms at the NHL All-Star festivities. Matt, I'm in more than one hockey league. That's whole. So, in the LHL, which I am in with you,
Starting point is 00:11:55 I happen to be in fifth place, even though I had no first overall pick, first pick even even I didn't have a first rounder And I still did what I had to do Because of my genius second. I am first place in the FHL other hockey fantasy hockey league third My buddy told me this is just a micro dose of mushrooms and he was lying So I'll be honest. I thought I was in waves of glory for most of the time that I was out there until it sort of settled down. And then I realized, Holy shit, I am at the NHL all star game. It just occurs to me that all these micro dosing while in the press conference, yammering and rambling while next to will a confused will our net.
Starting point is 00:12:44 We've all been there. I'm pissed off, I got to do that bit before I still hit radio row on Monday. I also thought that this was a micro dose of caffeine and it was not. This was a full blown dose of caffeine, okay? You guys wanna do another up one minute? Stugaz here, when you love someone,
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Starting point is 00:13:51 That's simplysafe.com slash DLB. There's no safe like Simply Safe. Don Lebatard. Listen, it could be Julius Randall's building. How about that? The Mecca. Or is Julius the Mecca. Bar's Julius. The Mecca.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Stugatz. Steve Martin was a prop comment. You said that? I said it two seconds earlier than you. This is the Don Lebatar show with Stugatz. Charlotte. Those goddamn New York Knicks. No Julius Randall, no OG Annobe. No Mitchell Robinson, obviously.
Starting point is 00:14:28 No Evan Fournier. Haha, just making sure you guys are paying attention. No problem! Charlotte, I'm going to take you on a dive into a little group chat that I'm part of that's called Sportsville. And the question came up yesterday. And this is how I know we've reached pandemonium levels of Nick's fever. This is Def Con One, this is Terral Red, all of it. What's it gonna take for Jalen Brunson to be in the MVP conversation.
Starting point is 00:15:05 Oh, there it is. Now, forget about, oh, we're good, oh, we're good, we're gonna play. Can we win around there? Want to know what's it gonna take for Jalen Brunson to win MVP? What do you think it's gonna take for Jalen Brunson to win MVP, I mean?
Starting point is 00:15:24 I think, here's the thing. A long time ago, my buddy Zach Harper and I came up with this concept called the MVP conversation bar. So you go in the bar and there's a group of people or holding a drink, having a conversation and everyone in that conversation is in the MVP conversation. So this year would be like, you know, Yann is holding a drink and Joel and Bede holding a drink and Nikolay Yolkic holding a drink. And I believe Jaylen Brunson should be in there holding a drink. Now the closer you are to the center of this group of people, the higher your MVP odds are right now as of right now. So the number one spot is the guy in the middle and he's telling
Starting point is 00:16:05 the story. He's got a drink in his hand and he's telling the story and everyone's just kind of listening. And so that's Joel and Bede right now. But Joel and Bede got hurt last night. So you know in the MVP conversation bar that means Joel and Bede maybe feeling a little queasy. Maybe I had a little bit too much to drink and they got to take them out. of the mess, scored him out the bar, then a new challenger walks in the center and that might be Nikolay Yolkic. But Jalen Brunson, he got in the bar now and he's on the outskirts. And because he's short, he's doing this.
Starting point is 00:16:38 He's doing a lot of peeking over and trying to wiggle his way through. But I think if the Knicks keep winning, he might find himself towards the inner circle there. I do too. I think he also has a lot to overcome. I think he has to do a lot more than other people might have to do to be in that center of that conversation because he is small.
Starting point is 00:17:01 He is on the Knicks. He is, you know, he's gotta put up crazy points and they have to keep winning for him to hold that spot. I think you see a Yokich or you see a Embeddon. It's like, well, a lot of people will be like, well, obviously it's that guy, not that guy, but what Jalen Brunson is doing, he is doing, the Knicks are there because of him.
Starting point is 00:17:24 The Knicks are where they are because of Jalen Brunson. And if you're talking about most valuable player, like valuable player to a team, why not Jalen Brunson? Who else has made this much of a turnaround for their team this year as Brunson has? Well, I mean, I think people point to Anthony Edwards and Shay Gildes, Alexander, as two other guys who have done that and have won more,
Starting point is 00:17:46 and maybe quote unquote, looked the part more. I think Dylan Brunson, you're right. He has to overcome so many things. We've heard analysts and pundits say, well, how good is he really? And you know what that is, Charlotte? It's the quote unquote eye test. It's the same reason people were like,
Starting point is 00:18:05 oh, well, how good is Steph Curry? They don't say it anymore. But I remember 2015 and 2016 people like, well, he's not really that good. And we're trying to explain to people, no, he is. It's the same thing that happened to Steve Nash. Again, when he won his MVPs, people were like, well, he's all right, but he's only averaging
Starting point is 00:18:20 like 18 points a game. How could he be the MVP of the league? People refuse to accept that this guy who could walk into a room and probably not turn too many heads based on his physical stature, right? Could dominate a game of giants. Well, he just grinds it out. Jalen Brunson just throws his body anywhere he has to go to get the points. He takes any charge he has to take.
Starting point is 00:18:46 He is just like, there's this determination in his face that I think it's so fun to watch aside from that, you know, he's not the biggest guy doing the craziest things, but he is just so consistently good. Nick's fans, I happen to live with one and I was looking at my husband's Twitter because as the next game is going on. You're married? Your roommate? Sorry, my roommate, yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:11 And we were just cracking up because Nick's Twitter, one of them was, so who are we playing in the finals? Another one was hands down best team since 99, can't even, like can't even talk about how excited I am, which, correct, probably, right? By the way, they're right. They won eight games in a row. That's the longest winning streak they've had since 1994. January 94, and in 94 they went to the finals, so. There was also, I mean, a gift that I'm gonna, or a video thing
Starting point is 00:19:41 that I'm gonna pull up and send to everybody of Tibbs doing this maniacal laugh that he laughed after that press conference when they, who did they beat when he sat down and laughed and we were talking about how happy he was. After they beat Denver, someone did a fan edit. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha It's been confirmed, it is acknowledged, all Star Weekend, we're getting a three-point shootout between Sabrina Inescu of the New York Liberty and Steph Curry of You Know Who He Is, you've seen his work. Originally they said Sabrina's gonna shoot from the WNBA three-point line while Steph shoots from the NBA three-point line, but a lot of people kind of made a fuss and now Sabrina's shooting from the NBA three-point line.
Starting point is 00:20:42 She's using a WNBA ball, he's using an NBA ball. From the very beginning I heard these rumors Charlotte, I was out on this completely. I hope they were just rumors. We didn't talk about it last week because I thought it was just rumors, but it's been confirmed now. I'll explain why I don't like it,
Starting point is 00:20:55 but I wanna hear your take first. Do you think this is a good idea? I think it's fun. I think that Sabrina last year's WNBA All-Star hit the most threes anyone's ever hit WNBA, NBA. And, you know, Steph was tweeting about it. She was asked a lot about it. And I think it's fun to have her a part of the NBA All-Star putting the W in front of more people whenever you can and showing like, hey, look at this amazing player. I think that
Starting point is 00:21:25 Steph probably is going into this being like well I'm not gonna lose and she's probably going into it being like I'm not gonna lose and so it's sort of a fun battle of egos and and I think it's great. I think it's great to have her up there. So this is my thing for I understand the desire to use the spotlight NBA to lift up the WNBA. I think that's always a great thing. Anytime we have interactions between WNBA players and NBA players, whether it's going to each other's games, whether it's being there as a part of an all-star weekend,
Starting point is 00:22:04 that's all great. I think when you do this battle the sexist thing, like in my opinion, the biggest hurdle for the WNBA is having to constantly refer yourself to the NBA. There's a difference in, hey, we're all together, we're all one big happy family, that's cool. It's a difference between that and I'm just as good as him. Look, I can do it too. I don't understand the incessant obsession of comparing, there are two different sports. There are two different sets of athletes.
Starting point is 00:22:38 I never have to hear about Serena Williams playing against Roger Federer to show how good Serena Williams really is. We just accept Serena Williams really is. We just accept Serena Williams is great at her sport and we don't we don't play this comparison game constantly and I think playing the comparison just robs it of its own value and its own merit which is it's a great sport. Look women's college basketball is doing crazy numbers on ESPN. They're beating NBA games on many nights, right? The other thing is, it's a lose-lose because if Curry wins,
Starting point is 00:23:13 that you've just devalued your sport. Like, you're basically saying, hey, put all my chips in the middle of the table, and I'm betting that one of my best players can be the greatest shooter of all time in his environment, in his, like, basically home turf pretty much. What a ridiculous bet, why?
Starting point is 00:23:36 Because here's the thing, if she wins, how many people do you think are gonna be like, huh, maybe I haven't been given the WNBA a fair shake. Oh, you know, I'll tune in in a few months. They're not gonna do it. You're not winning people over with this. You remember the television program, highly questionable, right?
Starting point is 00:23:55 Dan Lebatard, Poppy Lebatard, Balmani Jones, and then when Balmani left to do his own thing, that became a rotating chair, right? And I sat in the chair, and Izzy Gutierrez sat in the chair, and Mina Kahn sat in the chair. And I'll never forget coming to Miami to do Lebertad show, and Mina's in town to do Highly Questionable. And I'm like, hey, like, you wanna go grab something
Starting point is 00:24:17 or whatever? And she says, no, I have to study. And I said, Mina, what do you gotta study for? What's happening? Like, you taking the bar? What's happening? And she's, no, I gotta study for HQ. I said, Mina, what do you got to study for? What's happening? Like you taking the bar? What's happening? And she said, no, I got to study for HQ. I said, Mina, this is like the stupid show where we show people getting hit in the nuts and we laugh or whatever. But Mina's thing was like, yes, but the A block, we actually talk about sports.
Starting point is 00:24:37 I can't mess this up. I mean, you can go and sit in that chair and like, you know, say something goofy and we move on or whatever, or even get something wrong. Like I had that luxury because for me, it is just a silly show with my friends joking around. But for Mina, she understood that when I step into this seat, there is an incredible pressure to prove that, yes, I belong.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I'm not some ditzy girl who doesn't know what I'm talking about. So even in the most silliest of settings, Mina still felt, I gotta bring it, right? I look at this the same way. For Ayan Eskoo, whether she realizes it or not, there is an attention to this and a reality of like, oh, now like, remember you're not just Sabina Ayascu,
Starting point is 00:25:30 you are the representative for all women across all times and generations. It's not fair, but that's kind of how it is. I mean, how do you think I feel doing this show? Why do you think I constantly ask for more research and more facts? Why do I get so embarrassed when I get something wrong? Obviously, like you're talking about Mina's experience, this is my every day. I didn't want to use it.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I get that. I think that the hope is that maybe there's a world in which she can do this. Maybe that's not, maybe we're not there yet, but maybe there's a world in which this can be a fun thing for her to do. And so what if people are like, well, that means women are worse. Maybe it doesn't matter. Maybe the way you push through that is her giving it a try. Fingers crossed, I guess.
Starting point is 00:26:24 Don Lebatard. Let me get some golf ASMR Stugats. Oh Me this is the done levitar show with the Stugats What's up everybody welcome back to the Tomahawk show we talked conference championships and now we know who will be in the Super Bowl. It is the San Francisco 49ers versus the Kansas City Chiefs. Now we are going to go through our picks. We're going to give our analysis of who we think wins and we're going to talk about some of the players that are involved in it because it's a lot of conversation around them. Starting with Brock Purdy. Brock Purdy, I feel like the sentiment around Brock Purdy for 49ers
Starting point is 00:27:09 fans and within a 49ers locker room is completely different than the rest of the world. The rest of the world looks at Brock Purdy like a insurance salesman has won a ticket out of a cracker jack box and he got to play in the easiest offense and gets to have this roller coaster ride to be a quarterback in the end. That's what that's what the sentiment is. You don't blame me. They're whole rest of the world. Most of the world.
Starting point is 00:27:34 That is the conversation around Brock Purdy. So Joe, tell me when you look at Brock Purdy, what do you see? I see a quarterback who's growing, who's improving, but who is exactly like you advertised, right? He was dropped into a perfect situation. He's got a multitude of weapons on offense. He's got a great run game, a great offensive line, and one of the best defenses in the NFL he's doing exactly as he's supposed to. But I'm not saying that there's not 20 other quarterbacks in the NFL right now that could do what he's doing if put in that perfect situation.
Starting point is 00:28:09 Man, 20 other quarterbacks in that situation. All right, now you are the San Francisco Homer. I'm sure you have a Brock Purdy tattoo somewhere. I'm fair. I'm fair for her. I'm just saying, but I have to give people, I have to give people that there is a bias here, I'm just saying, but I have to give people, I have to give people that there is a bias here, regardless of whether it's fair or not, Juju, this is journalism, I have to let them know that there are other factors at play here.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Fatnap, what is your perception of Brock Purdy? I think, well, yes, obviously, we all know I'm biased at this point, there's no denying it, but yeah, no, I like Brock Purdy a lot. I think he has a lot of potential and I think he could do this on another team, something not maybe not take him to the Super Bowl, but I think he is a good enough quarterback to be able to be playing at a level
Starting point is 00:28:55 like this on a different team. He was dropped into a perfect situation, but I don't know. I don't know. I couldn't name too many other, like I wouldn't pick too many other quarterbacks to be dropped into our 49ers situation and be able to do what he's done so far. So that's my tip. All right. I feel like that was a little more lukewarm than I anticipated. I thought we were going to get like a Bright or Die, Brockford's plan It's Mahomes vs Brock Purdy for best ever type of comment. Juju, give me your perspective.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Look, my perspective when I see Brock Purdy, I see a hero, I see Batman, I see Robin. I see a brother that was the last pick in the draft is in the damn Superbowl. And was one game away last year. Like brother, that is inspiring for little kids all around the globe. People, you don't have to be Patrick Mahones in college and go to Texas Tech and be throwing
Starting point is 00:29:49 bombs and jailing her and toys. Brother, you can work your way up, go to Iowa State, where you went, just have a route and get yourself an opportunity to be drafted and look what can happen. You could be Brock Purdy, you could be going against the Taylor Swift and the Swifties in the Super Bowl. You can be the leader of Bang Bang Niner game doing what Jimmy Groppelow could never. Sam Darnham could never. We shipped Freyland's ass to Hella Potter here because he could never. Brother, I see the man that's brother and in a narrative, yeah, we could have thought that before this last game that
Starting point is 00:30:22 yeah, he's with the weapons around him is not in that damn fourth quarter the weapons around Brock perty was brought down party he was getting the little scrambles that was what we wanted Lamar to do that was what we wanted that to do that was what we wish Jerry Gough dream about doing you feel me to attack about lower he can't even burn two yards down the field you never get brought party making game changing plays to get to the Super Bowl. When else does it count? I feel like that man is robbing that man is the mask that man is Whoever dare you're saying a couple things because being Batman and being Robin Are our two different sentiments and I would ask me how I see him.
Starting point is 00:31:05 You asked me how I see him. I know what I'm saying. I'm saying, I know, I'm not an addictionary. Robin is understanding that he is a sidekick to Cal Shanahan. So I can actually view, we might be looking at the same thing, but differently, but I do understand that.
Starting point is 00:31:19 I'm actually closer to the juju's train of thought than I am the Joe train of thought because the reality is first round quarterbacks are a certain height, there are certain weight, they have a certain tangible arm strength, arm power, they have a certain resume at a certain place. Brock Purdy doesn't cross check any of those boxes, but the reality is what Brock Purdy is, is he is clutch.
Starting point is 00:31:43 And Kyle Shanahan would not put his offense and his legacy in the hands of somebody who was not like that. It is a big deal to move on from trade lands. It is a big deal to move on from Jimmy Garoppolo to trust Brock Purdy the way that he has. And I think the biggest evidence is the stat that Kyle Shanahan anytime he is down going into the fourth quarter, he loses, right? Because his offense is very automated. You go to this place with the football every time. And if the defense can do something in that moment to force you into the wrong decision based on what you're seeing, it is hard to improvise. But what Brock Purdy has shown the ability to do is he gets better in those moments. And that's what makes him
Starting point is 00:32:24 special. That's what made Tom Brady special. I'm not saying Brock, but he is Tom Brady. But the reality is against the Packers, Brock, perdy had a drive that they needed for the win. And they got it versus Detroit Lions down the stretch. He played his best. And even versus Cleveland Browns, which was their first loss where we started to kind of squint at the 49ers a little bit. If you look at that game, he put a drive together after a terrible game from him to put them in position to win. And their kicker missed the field goal. So I do think Brock Purdy is special. He is in a second year. If you look at his second year numbers in this system versus Joe Burrow's second year numbers in the same system, we talk about both of these players completely different. Now Burrow is doing
Starting point is 00:33:02 it for the Cincinnati Bengals, which is significant, but at the same time, it is the same system. The numbers are pretty much the same. And we talked about Joe Burrow, like he was the next coming of Joe Montana. And we talked about Brock Purdy again, like he should be just happy to be there, Joe. Well, I think it's somewhere between-
Starting point is 00:33:20 Joe, Joe, think about this. And after Hawks just said that, he's not the hero the city wants, but he's the hero the city needs. Well, that was a well done for a voiceover. You've got an amazing VO voice. I'm not saying it's one or the other. I'm saying it's in between. He's a top 15 quarterback. He's done a great job with what he's been asked. He nailed it. When things mattered in the playoffs down the stretch, bringing his team back to victory. But I want to
Starting point is 00:33:51 see a little bit more before I proclaim him, uh, the next Tom Brady or as good as Lamar Jackson. Like he had some ups and downs this season and he's had a lot of great players around him since he's got to the Niners. He's got a great defense. And if he continues to elevate himself, then I'll reconsider his top 15 status. If he wins a Super Bowl, it's different. He's top seven. Now he's dead in that tier one, because like we talked about at the top of the show, when you're the quarterback winning the Super Bowl is what matters.
Starting point is 00:34:19 Yeah. I like that take. All right. Everybody gets a one minute, uh, clock to make their Super Bowl picks and why Joe, I'm going to go with you first. 49ers versus the Chiefs. Who wins the Super Bowl and why? I think Patrick Mahomes is magic. Finally wears out.
Starting point is 00:34:36 He's been magical throughout the postseason against all odds. I will say going through December, getting into the playoffs, going through the playoffs, beating some teams that maybe they shouldn't have because they weren't as good, but Patrick Mahomes was the difference maker. But I think they run into a buzz saw right now in San Francisco with Brock, party, my top 15 quarterback, your number one guys of all time, uh, because they've got the defense, they can beat you in multiple ways. And it's finally time for Cal Shanahan to win his Super Bowl drink. Oh, Kyle Shanahan drink legacy continues. Juju, you're next. One minute to make your pick and why. Brother, it's like, like I said earlier, I'm just happened to, I happen to be in an era
Starting point is 00:35:16 where I'm watching Michael Jordan play. And while you watch Michael Jordan get it done, he has something in your, in your chest that says, damn, this man is inevitable. Damn, this combination, Jordan and Pippin is inevitable. Damn, Travis Kelsey to damn my homes. That's inevitable at this point. And no disrespect to the bang bang, not a game. Because I think that y'all getting this far is a testament to y'all will.
Starting point is 00:35:38 You feel me? You see how I feel about Brock Purdy. You feel me to put him, put a logo in the sky with a third or third old man like Batman and Brock Purdy, come. You feel me to put him put a logo in the sky with a third or third or man and like Batman and brought party come you feel me say today, but I cannot go against the Swifties I love Taylor Swift get over yourself if you don't like Taylor Swift to be shown what 10 15 seconds at a time of Interdent game. I'm going with Patrick Mahomes I'm gonna Andy Reed the legacy because my wow We the he doesn't get enough praise Wow Andy Reed take a bow because he'll wow. So all right.
Starting point is 00:36:07 Pastor Mohans and them boys. Wow. We got cheese. We got Niners. Nat, who you got and why? I have to think about this one. Yeah. I have the Niners winning for multiple reasons. First of all, we're coming in with the chip on our shoulder of we need to get them back for 2020. So we need to take them down. We're not going to let them go back to back. There's no effing way that that's going to happen. We have come this far. We're poised enough to get it done. We saw it happen in the second half of last game. I know the Chiefs are a very different team, but still we have all the pieces in the right place right now.
Starting point is 00:36:47 There's no chance that we're gonna lose Shanahan drink. Finally he's gonna get his Super Bowl. So I got us winning obviously. Hmm, all right. Well, I am going with the Kansas City Chiefs. I am not making the mistake of picking against Patrick Mahomes. He is now Tom Brady status. It is always smart money to pick him.
Starting point is 00:37:05 I'm also hardly ever right when I pick Super Bowl team. So you could take that with a grain of salt. But the reason being is I think Patrick Mahomes plays at a different level because he understands the gravity. I think the 49ers have been the best team throughout the season, like the most consistently good team in the league. But for whatever reason,
Starting point is 00:37:24 because Patrick Mahomes is so good, teams play different and he gets them to play outside of themselves, especially in these moments. I think that happens in the Super Bowl. I think Patrick Mahomes submits his legacy. I think Andy Reed retires and then Eric B. Enneby gets the call to be the head coach of the Kansas City Chiefs. That's my prediction. And also, since you say that, my bad. Since you say that. My prediction about Swifty Nation though, when we talked about Taylor Swift and the conspiracy, we are here, y'all. This is it. This is stage nine. What you got, Juju? Yeah, I was saying since you said how you said it and how you put it, you made me see the light.
Starting point is 00:38:03 I changed my pit to Bang Bang nine the game because what was that? All right, so we got three one we'll see what happens. All right We're gonna take a quick break when we come back mr. Joe Thomas host extraordinaire is gonna bring this episode to Tomahawk home

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