The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Shut Your Stupid, Pretty Mouth
Episode Date: October 4, 2023Can we love Pat Riley and still criticize him? Did Emo Jimmy save Heat Media Day? Dan, Stu, and the crew discuss with David Samson. Then, what should we make of the Trevor Bauer situation? Plus, Billy... has some thoughts on local traffic patterns, we send Jeremy to the Eras Tour, and Chris has zero idea what Dan wants him to discuss. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Why are you listening to this show?
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast.
I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables
to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there.
That hasn't happened to you guys.
I've done it.
And now, here's the marching man to nowhere,
that face and the habitual liar.
Greg Cody was arguing yesterday how unfair it is to have to go to Philadelphia.
I'm like, yeah, that's the reward Philadelphia gets, three games at home for making the playoffs.
For being better than you.
For being better than you by even a half a game.
And so that's the reward that we all know the stakes.
That's how we're doing it.
But I thought of that as an advantage and then I thought,
what was the greater advantage that I'd prefer to have if I was given my choice
You can have home field advantage or you can go in as the lesser team
Know you're the lesser team, but I'm gonna give you best of three which is maximum random
Which is the Rangers will beat the rays at home because whatever sometimes you get shut out and frangers are really good
Yeah, I know I'm not but they were bad the last half game. They were bad the last half of the season. My question to you genuinely Samson is what's a greater
advantage as a lesser team to have a three game series that allows you to play on the randomness
of I can win two of three against the better team than me or just home field advantage.
I'd rather be on the road for a one game play, playoff game,
or one game playoff series.
That's where the true random happens.
Because in one game, anything can happen
and you can beat anybody anywhere.
To go on the road and win two out of three
is a tough, tough thing to do.
So I'd rather, the reason why they made it this way
is they needed to give an advantage and incentive
for teams not to be average.
Scott Boris came out after the expanded wild card and said now and incentive for teams not to be average.
Scott Boris came out after the expanded wild card and said now everybody is in a rush to
the middle.
And so what the compromise to the union was, all right, we're going to give the first
round wild card no travel, easier for players, but you want to get home field advantage because
you get all three games.
And there's no other, I don't know of any example like that, anywhere in any sports.
And maybe I'm wrong, I could be wrong about soccer,
where there could be an entire series,
and it's all in one park, a non-neutral park, no less.
Mm-hmm.
So I would much rather be on the road for one game,
and I fought for that because I think the network's
like it better, and I've spoken to Skipper about that,
elimination games, that's where it's at.
Today's games are elimination games,
there's four of them.
Yesterday's were not.
I would expect ratings and attendance to be better today
because there's a possibility of teams going home.
And then tomorrow, if there's a game three,
then that's like a game seven.
David, I don't disagree, but it's unfair
for a division winner to have a you know
A one-game scenario with a wildcard team. You can't do that to them. You just can't do it one game is to random
So that's what owners said stew guys. They said that we're not gonna play 162
We're not gonna win our division and then 24 hours later be eliminated
But this compromise is no better the brewers could be eliminated within 12 hours, and they will have been
done.
Wanted division in their out-and-two games, if in fact the Diamondbacks with Zach Gal on
the former Marlin can beat them.
But there's no solution to that.
There's always scenarios where you go through a regular season.
What about football?
You go through an entire grind of a season through 17 games, and then you lose one game
in the first round of the playoffs in
your home within within that week. So that's part of sports. I always argued against that but
owners were I couldn't get forget 23 votes needed to have that happen. I couldn't even get 10
votes because owners wanted the opportunity to play more games after such a long season. I want
to switch gears briefly before we get to your review and cover another local story,
which was Jimmy Butler's media day appearance
that the heat socials had fun with
then came a report from Michael Wallace
who used to be based at a Miami,
was part of the ESPN's Miami Heapy
before relocating to Memphis
where he said 98% of the heat front office
wasn't down with what Jimmy Butler did.
It was a weird percentage, yeah.
98.9, yeah.
17 of them, so that's,
he said that this is an online which we hold.
It's not in line with heat culture,
it's too look at me and I was curious what your thoughts are
because I'm pretty sure Pat Riley views that
and doesn't get it at all,
but Jeremy and I were talking before the show
that we actually think Jimmy Butler did
the Miami Heat organization a big time solid
by taking all the attention and putting it on himself
rather than their failings, this postseason and offseason.
Absolutely, I mean him coming in and being
emo Jimmy during media day was a huge distraction
from all of the other questions about
Damien Lillard and Tyler Hero and Kyle Lowry not speaking and all of the other storylines that we
could have been focused on. Instead I was coming in and doing piano covers of
emo songs. So I've got second-hand information which means it was not
directly told to me but directly told to me by someone who's a part of it and
I absolutely believe this person 100% Jimmy Butler and the heat it's
not a love affair by any stretch between the front office and Jimmy.
Jimmy is a player who is like many superstars.
He can be selfish and he plays by his own rules and it can be frustrating to pat and to
others who are into discipline and into togetherness and into what goes here goes there.
So I think they look at Jimmy. I think they think it's tired,
but he's so good.
And that's the problem.
When you've got a player like Pudra Rodriguez
who's the biggest pain in the neck ever
and leaves your team in the middle of a year
to say FU to our hitting coach,
to go to his own hitting coach and then lies about it.
And the players are having a hard time
at them in the clubhouse or a Hanley Ramirez,
but then you win, it's pretty hard to argue.
You don't have to love them off the court,
but you love them on the court.
And I think that's the case with Jimmy.
I don't think there's a lot of love off the court,
but boy, is he a special player on the court?
Okay, but let's talk about some of the separation here,
because I think it matters.
98.9 would be nine out of 10 people
in the heat front office.
What's your thing doing?
Jeremy's pretty plugged in.
We know people in that organization.
I think that's overestimating.
It's a slightly high number.
By quite a bit, I mean, especially considering everyone
kind of had fun with it.
OK, but I'd go one step further, because this is not hard
to understand from any vantage point.
100% of 100% of Pat Riley doesn't like the idea of somebody showing
out at his sacred cathedral of military learning and making a costume party out of it. Like,
I have not told him in lower. I had that counterpoint land the whale and then you don't
need people causing disflexion. I agreed. Ied and understood. All you always fail in the city. To me though, the best part of this is,
of course, the 78 year old guy is gonna get battered around
by, well, when I brought Shaq in here,
because my move for the last 15 years
is I'll try and get the giant guys
and keep people caring for 20 years
when sometimes Sacramento goes those 20 years
without anything Orlando goes those 20 years I'll keep getting the guys so it goes shack
and shack comes in and he's his own economy he's not heat culture he's shack culture he's
got his own people he you know shows Wade some bad things about what it is to be a star
before Wade realizes what it is to be a star I'll bring you LeBron I'll bring you
a box and then I'll get you JimmyBron, I'll bring you Bosh,
and then I'll get you Jimmy Butler.
And at the end of this run for both of them,
Jimmy Butler and Pat Riley,
there's two generations of gulf between them
and how they think about sports.
And what media day is supposed to mean?
Like, of course there's going to be conflict there.
Are you arguing for the sanctity of media day
where they think the entirety of media day with the
the entirety of hot seconds with jacks
i'm sure rally didn't like shak squirt gun either
okay just deal with it agreed
yes of course the stars were all i see arriving with a court
i know but i know but you guys say yes but of course the stars are all
and little did because the organizations have taken the power back.
Can you explain why there is any hate toward Pat Riley and concern that he doesn't get the
whale when all he does is get you guys these all he did was get you rings as the most successful
bronch. They've lost they've lost three consecutive finals getting there as a massive achievement.
They they were in the play-in last year and went on
one of the more unpredictable runs in history.
No, I'm not hating Pat Riley, I love Pat Riley,
but I am presently criticizing Pat Riley
and I think you can operate in a world where you do both.
You respect the man, what he's done with this organization
as an executive down here in Miami.
It's been brilliant, but it's not exactly nitpicking to say he's missed out on his last eight superstar
Pursuits and the Miami Heat or Warsaw foights wait. What who's eight name him?
Kevin Durant twice Donovan Mitchell right Damien Lillard Jimmy Butler the first go around
Russell Westbrook twice, okay Bradley Beale James Hardin twice
That's 10 those all sound like guys. I really one of the Miami Heat by the way. You're welcome is what Pat Riley should say to you
Which of those players maybe Durant the first time maybe Butler the first time
But I think Butler was better for the heat the second time because he was a little more mature
But all of that said are you so sure that Lillard is the difference maker on the heat the second time because he was a little more mature. But all of that said, are you so sure that Lillard is the difference maker
on the heat team?
Are you 100% sure?
I think Damian Lillard is gonna bring you a title.
Well, I think he is on Milwaukee.
Yeah, I think Damian Lillard shriels into to this game
and he's the best player.
He's the best player on the team.
Did I get a title that was the best?
You can say play off Jimmy
and I can counter argue that with playoff Jimmy look bad as
finals Jimmy and he's just getting older and I know Damien Lillard's 33.
But I think Damien Lillard strolls into a team that made the NBA finals and makes them
better.
Team that really struggled offensively, struggled to keep up with the Denver Nuggets
offensively.
I think he solves a lot of that.
And now he goes to a rival that you upset,
they get better and Boston says aggressive,
knows that their roster isn't good enough
to beat Miami, what do they do?
They flip the script and they go after somebody
that you were interested in and you get your lunch money
taken from you.
I think you can criticize Pat Riley's failings
this off season and not come across as I am.
You do am though.
The Blazers got a way better package for Lillard
than what Miami was offered.
He could have done,
maybe they could have gone out
and facilitated a three way,
but he has to set the Blazers got way better
than what the heat was offered.
That's what they could have done.
And we only know the postspin
on what the heat supposedly offered
where they just found three draft picks
and Jovich hiding under the couch.
Because before the person that I trust the most when it comes to heat reporting was telling
me he was Tyler Hero, take it or leave it and they haven't spoken in months.
I'm going to say it's not too much of a stretch to say they should have done better there.
There is more information on that though that I had not considered in some of what my information was on this, which
is the heat were legitimately stunned that there wasn't back and forth of any kind there.
And that stupid games win super prizes.
They drew a hard line.
No, but after months of Portland's not dealing with us and Portland maintaining that stance
throughout because Portland, as far as I know, never got to the point of knowing what the
assets and Brooklyn and Utah were available in exchange for hero that the Phoenix part
of the deal also fit with Miami and Lowry, that that part of the deal worked.
And then the other part of the deal worked and then the other
part of the deal Portland never heard or entertained and then after that the hard line was drawn
the hard line was drawn after was drawn first by Portland there was no communication.
And I want to keep my eye on the ball here because they also lost out on Bradley Bill and
Bradley Bill would have helped this basketball team and Bradley Bill could have been had
for peanuts and they decided against that.
It's not peanuts peanuts what's his salary
i excuse me
again i don't care about the luxury tax
and i shouldn't
you don't run the team i shouldn't care i'm a fan david and i want and i see
other owners spending into the into the luxury tax to maintain competitors
i have a championship window that is shrinking by the day
and I don't care about Mickey Erison's financials.
We've won, we've gone into it.
He got the team for nothing.
I'm so sorry that you're talking into the wind
and I'm sorry if you don't wanna hear this.
Mickey Erison, look where Carnival Stock is.
Look at what he's been doing to prop up the heat,
which at Mickey Harrison will tell you,
if any of you are know him,
the heat do not make money every year.
He puts money into that team every year.
And for him not to want to go over the tax
when he's delivered to South Florida.
I don't want to do this.
I don't want to do this.
I don't want to do this again,
where you argue on behalf of it doesn't appreciate as an asset until I sell it for
$5 billion in a cup of beer in that Dan
I'm saying the Mickey-Irish since the best owner and that's as hard for me to say it sucks
I couldn't stand it when I was there because all he did was take attention away from the Marlins with all the signings and all the
Championships and playing into June when we were supposed to have the the calendar to ourselves
all the championships and playing into June when we were supposed to have the calendar to ourselves,
basically handing us off with a week to go
until training camp when all of the writers and cameras
would go to Dolphins training camp.
So no love lost with the Miami-Header
in their front office because they're that good.
Mickey Harris should go down in history,
and I assume he is, as the greatest owner
in the history of our town sports.
Does anyone dispute that?
No, Bruce Sherman, close second.
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I have ever seen in sports, and anything I think I have ever seen in the way it divides
people politically along lines.
I'm not even understanding, because if you side with Trevor Bauer
before the recent accusations and you write
with his army of supporters,
because he was the brash guy who spoke freely
before it was popular in baseball.
To see some of what it is that's happened with him
that is now being taken as a victory lap on behalf of,
I'm not sure what, like I'm legitimately not sure what, that
women sometimes might falsely accuse, but the percentages are that males abuse their power
at a very high clip, and women usually don't come forth into what it is that this woman
entered into a relationship, no matter how much she was looking for money, thinking that
they're going to take a physical beating, then after that, Trevor Bowers gonna become a victim
and a freedom fighter, but he's banned from baseball,
even though he's not legally guilty of anything,
but he sure as hell doesn't seem innocent here either,
but we'll get to the details of that story in a second.
I've been remiss because Billy has had 18 hours to enjoy Marlon's playoff baseball.
It has one run and it was super frustrating.
Billy Kareen in here sideways 25 minutes into his day.
Like his day, it's playoff baseball.
He's been waiting through the heat.
He had to listen to the panthers be talked about his team
Played a playoff game in an electric Philadelphia and you got here 20 minutes late
I was told because your priorities are screwed up that you were dealing with family stuff
Yeah, I think with my daughter seems pretty what well
I mean I off baseball and the Marlons are in the playoff
I get it but like I was like you know
I'm gonna do a three hour broadcast later today
We're gonna watch the game live a watch along so I thought you know what in exchange for these three hours
Maybe it could be 20 minutes later. I ran it by the higher ups and they just said
And that was that still get mocked on air. Yeah
It's what happens.
How was everything with your daughter before?
I want to go back to David Samson for a second
because I do want to talk.
I don't love the optics.
I'm like Cody, I don't love the optics
and talking about this story and it's all dudes around here.
But regardless, I wanted to start with where it is
that how about his daughter?
Is she okay?
I mean, everyone's healthy and happy.
Everything's all good. Thank you for asking to go to everything's good
Yeah, what a night of baseball, huh, Dan? Did you watch? Yes, okay?
I know you like to watch the race sometimes so I don't know if you were tired
We're earlier they didn't score
Baseball had your fill you I do you got to combine one run in 18 and in 18
Not great not a great situation.
Nice for my...
Let's deal with your raise attendance yesterday, huh?
That wasn't great.
Why did you turn this segment that I was throwing over to you
for your Marlon's authentic reaction
as a fan of this team since a child?
Why are you throwing the show back at me?
Well, no, because I sensed that after what's to got
the thing asking my kid was, okay,
we're going back to Browell land.
So I said, you know what, let's send me back to baseball and for a moment,
because we'll get to Bauer at some point.
He started quizzing you.
David, let's go back to this Bauer conversation, because I'm legitimately confused.
What happened?
I'm legitimately confused.
What happened?
Why are you making that face at me?
Well, how far back do you want to go?
You want to just know, talk about what happened the last two days and the last two days.
There was a claim.
This is civil, not criminal.
Trevor Bauer was never charged with the crime.
There was a civil claim where Trevor Bauer sued his accuser, alleging that she got in the way of him making money,
because he wasn't playing professional baseball anymore, because of what happened
in his reputation. She counter sued him, which is what happens when one person sues one person
civilly, the other person sues back. So they're suing each other. Then yesterday the lawsuits were both dropped. They were
settled. And word got out that Trevor Bauer did not pay this woman whose name I'm not
going to mention because I don't know that it's right to. And the woman did not pay Trevor
Bauer. Nobody got any money, lawsuit over. and that's the end of it. Then Trevor
Bauer went on Twitter and released a video saying, now I can talk. During the
lawsuit I couldn't but now I can. Let me explain to you what kind of woman this
woman is. And he went into a three-minute exchange of victim blaming and
victim shaming, saying that she
wanted money.
She took a video of me while I was sleeping and her face looks great.
She looks happy.
She texted her friends saying, I'm worth $51 million.
Let's get them.
Who's next on my list of players to have sex with and get their money?
As though explaining why he beat the crap out of her without her consent
because she wanted money and by the way I never did that. Then in the video he actually lied
and he said that the court said that I never did it and that's not at all what happened.
When there's a domestic violence restraining order, the question
is does the court grant it? Does the court extend it? And what the court looks to among
other things is is their future harm? Is their imminent harm? And Trevor Bauer had said
I'm never seen this woman again. And the woman had overstated her concern that he wanted
to see her again. So the judge said there's no need for this restraining order. So I'm
not going to keep it in place. Because Trevor is not going to be with this woman. They
didn't talk about whether or not Trevor had beaten her up, whether or not Trevor had
choked her out or beaten her private parts when she was unconscious,
that was not the issue for that hearing.
Then when the case was dismissed on the claims
and the counterclaims, just the other day settled,
again, no finding of fact of what exactly happened.
As a matter of fact, there was a thought in the opinion
something was a miss.
But Trevor's video would have you believe,
hey, this woman was doing the fariest things.
Then one last thing happened this morning.
Trevor Bauer again came out with an entire diatribe
of how the woman's lawyers are in violation
and should be disbarred because they had videos and
emails that they did not turn over on discovery.
Let me explain the law here.
If you are found to have violated discovery rules, the judge under all scenarios can impose
sanctions, can force discovery, can reopen cases, can go all the way up to disbarment. What Trevor Bauer is saying happened, if it did happen,
it is a very, very big deal.
But there is zero proof.
It is merely him, along with his agents,
trying to steer the narrative so that he can work
at Major League Baseball again.
You have said he would not.
He will never again.
And the thing that I want to talk to you about,
because for the record, people should know, he's got at least four accusers. This is one of the
stories. And while none of us know what is true in that situation, except for two people,
I don't know if even he were to somehow rehab the freedom to work because in his words, he's been falsely accused
and framed and blackmailed, whatever it is
that he is saying happened to him,
the thing that gets him back into baseball
as it relates to this story.
If I tell you only, you have allegations
that these are the bedroom habits of someone from four accusers.
Never mind legal, not legal, consent or anything.
Can a major league team welcome any of that into its organization?
Because it's a rare case, David, where I believe that someone who's got side-young type talent
won't work again because baseball can't welcome somebody who the Dodgers
signed only for a couple of years because he couldn't be trusted here because he was
already careening toward a personality land that made people in baseball deeply uncomfortable
before any of these allegations.
It's one thing taken the ball from Terry Francona and Whippie and it's a center field.
It's another thing being on Twitter and being on social media and being outspoken and having your own sort of PR strategy. But when it comes to domestic violence, that's a
whole different level of not acceptable. Now there are players who get accused, who serve their time
and who get another chance, like Marcelo Zuna, our old friend Marcelo Zuna, and there's some players
who don't get another chance, like I suspect Mingo Hermann will not get another chance, and Julio Urias is likely not.
Maybe not even Wander Franco though that wasn't domestic violence.
The question is, how do you do the press conference?
How do you announce the signing of Trevor Bauer?
How do you explain to your fans that you're okay with this?
The problem I have with that scenario is as an employer, I don't want to dictate my employees'
kinks.
I don't want to say what is acceptable or what is not acceptable in the bedroom.
I want to draw a line where here's what's not acceptable, doing anything without full
and continued consent.
That's it.
With full consent that continues and is never brought into question, I don't want to dictate
what my players or what my employees do in the bedroom because God knows that's not
the business I want to be in.
But if there's a question of consent, it doesn't matter anymore.
Game over, I don't want that person around.
I don't know genuinely what to do with the macro on this, though, where a segment of
America rallies behind Trevor Bauer
on something.
Well, but I just, can you explain it to me?
Because, okay, go ahead.
Because there are men who feel, and I get this,
just like, I'm not comparing,
but for those of us who live with the red light on,
we live right now saying,
you better be careful what you say,
because at any moment, you could be, quote unquote, canceled.
And so it informs us as we try to keep our brains
ahead of our mouths with the microphone.
When it comes to the situation of the Me Too movement,
where women are empowered and women are speaking out
and women are actually trying to say,
it's not okay what men are doing to us. There are
men who are threatened by that because that is their modus operandi. They use
sex, they use power, they use money to get control. And it happens in
relationships, it happens in workplaces, it happens everywhere. And when that
foundation gets rocked, that really is jarring to people, to men. It's crazy
to me, David, it really is. That the people, to men. It's crazy to me, David.
David, it really is crazy to me, David.
It really is that the threat to male power
would be so strong that you would find,
try and wrap yourself in the low percentage
of false allegations so that you could believe
that men could keep the power to what?
To allegedly beat up a woman during sex
and go with the new scandal proofing propaganda
of I'm an innocent man.
I'm not guilty of anything here.
I'm someone's trying to take advantage of me,
my money, my career, and look, here's the proof
and that gives me the right physically
to have violent sex and have a defense
we haven't heard before. The rough sex ability to protect yourself against allegations
that you're someone who's physically violent.
I actually don't think it's about the rough sex as much as people are defending power
actually because they want to just keep power however they define it personally, not just
for the rough sex part of it. It's to make sure that they maintain control in every situation in every scenario over
women.
So anytime they can back power, they're going to.
David, we did not have time after that subject matter to get to your movie review.
So if you want, he does it on nothing personal every day.
Every day he watches a movie.
There is a movie review there.
Thank you, David.
We'll talk to you next week.
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do gods gets right about what Gerald McCoy? IMDB. Look at movies. I'm going to check it out.
Check out Gerald McCoy's IMDB. His profile focus, uh, great. Still gots.
Okay, so I'm on Gerald McCoy's IMDB.
There was an acting credit in which he played Gerald McCoy
in The League, which was a popular show on FX.
Then he played himself on the Dan Patrick show
in episode 12.4, 2018, and also something called
The Game Day Commute.
He played himself.
Archive footage, he was featured once on Roman's Burning.
I mean, look at that.
This is the Don Limita show with this Tugat.
Billy, I like that that sign behind you says we have gone one day without talking about
a certain someone, but I think we should change that certain someone now to Taylor Swift. Days without talking about Taylor Swift because
her bringing it more fans to football allows us all to arrive. The writers are no longer
striking. We've arrived at the content game being mastered by the Kelsey's. The Kelsey family has propelled this tight end into super
stardom and he speaks on behalf of America so much, Mr. Fizer does. He has
brought so much fame and attention to the sport that we thought didn't need
any more fame and attention. They've got a documentary on Amazon. He's in every commercial Aaron Rogers getting his league stolen from him by Mr. Pfizer.
They, the Kelsey brothers, have now filed this complaint on their world's most popular podcast.
most popular podcast. Jason and Travis Kelsey have called out the NFL and NBC speaking on behalf of America for going overboard on Taylor Swift coverage. That's so great.
That's the end of the content game right there. Well, they can get the content on their number
one podcast complaining about, come on come on Swift people
Swifties who are making us so popular the chiefs and the jets Sunday night was the most watch show on network TV since the Super Bowl
It was after the Pacheco touchdown when they cut right to where I think that I think that's where everyone
That's where it jumped the ship for everyone jumped the ship jumped the shark for everybody football's gonna make us turn on Taylor Swift
Oh, he's already there. This is my worst night. Yeah, I love Taylor Swift
I've loved being a swifty. I've loved doing it in somewhat silence with my golic junior and us being the only
people to
Bond over this thing that was the only
That's all I'm saying saying within sports that we talk about sports wait Russell
I bring a piano once in all the music
Russell Westbrook is a keyboard is a swifty
Steven A Smith says it's the best show he's ever been to that makes him a swifty correct as well like this
No, everyone's trying to outswifty each other
It's a swift off. That's my frustration out- Swiftie each other. Yeah, yeah.
It's a Swift off.
That's my frustration.
Just make some-
Well, you're part of the age.
The Swift off.
No, but this is the issue.
I started 2018, I'll have you know.
Wow.
Billy's our biggest reputation tour.
Oh, wow.
Where were you?
I haven't seen her on tour.
I really want to see her.
Wow, not a fan.
Not a fraud.
Please leave this conversation. Wow, did you just send him to the. Wow, not a fan of fraud. Please leave this conversation.
Wow, did you just send him to the penalty box?
No, I just asked him to leave the conversation.
No, wait a minute.
You know what? We put him at the Aristotle.
Can we get the Aristotle in the penalty box?
Let's let Jeremy go to the Aristotle right now.
Jeremy, go where they're sending you right now.
Out of the conversation.
Send him to the Aristotle.
Send wherever it is that I need to send him to get video content of him not
being swifty enough
wherever it is that you need to send it to jermy by way of penalty because billy
just unmasked
away jenis is in the penalty box go to the kanyu west consular there sir
billy you just this is this is fairly shocking not a shocking is you putting
vick fanji on notice but you publicly declaring your swifty bonafides in a way that crushed
Jeremy sent him scampering from the room because he's never been to a
Taylor Swift show and you have better bonafides here where has this person been
hiding from me
this person that went to a Taylor Swift country you being a more site my
friend a more a more swifty than Jeremy.
It was an incredible show.
I'll tell you that, Dan.
I saw Chris Cody's neighbor there.
The guy came up and he said, I'm Chris Cody's neighbor.
We looked at each other every once in a while.
We were kind of pointing at each other during songs.
It was very nice.
Camille Cabello was there.
Charlie XCX, the actual letters.
But then if you say it fast, it's like a play on words.
Which neighbor was it?
I don't know.
He's like this tall kind of jack. It was like five years ago, I don't remember.
I love a good finger point at a concert though,
it's great, you know.
You can sell it, yeah.
Can I tell you something?
I actually, so they were decent seats,
I got up for my wife for her birthday years ago, right?
And I have to be honest with you, I did not like,
see, I thought that I could just blend in there
and no one would know who I was,
not that I'm like this person that's recognized.
But I was like, I'm going to enjoy this concert,
but I don't know that I want people seeing me
enjoy this concert.
And I don't know that I want people seeing me singing
or God forbid dancing,
because I'm not a good dancer at all, right?
And then when Chris's neighbor came up to me,
he's like, hey, I'm gonna say,
I was like, oh, good.
And then I see he's a section over for me
and we can make eye contact.
And it was almost like I needed to see his neighbor
dancing and enjoying the show before I gave myself
permission to do so.
Because I was worried about being judged
by Chris's neighbor,
that I'll go, never see again in my life more than likely.
But I didn't want to have that awkwardness.
That's how insecure I was kind of being there and enjoying the show.
But I looked at him and once I saw that he was enjoying it and was kind of like bouncing
his head up and going like that, I pointed at him and I said, okay, it's time to shake
it off, Billy.
Let's just get things going.
Yeah.
You guys don't have those concert insecurities.
You are legitimately, I'm gonna ask it.
No, yeah, there's that that i would like to just uh
are you sure it was kody's neighbor that made you insecure and it wasn't this is
uh Russell Westbrook doesn't mind whatever your judgments are about how
strongly he loves Taylor Swift well i do
but was it from the neighbor or just everybody because were you afraid of being caught dancing on by the internet?
Were you afraid showing joy in front of people at a Taylor Swift concert?
I think the game changes, Dan. Once you're at the concert and you realize there's someone there that knows you and they know people that you know.
Like it changes everything. It's a very welcoming bunch. I didn't expect to see anyone there that might know who I was.
So I was like, this is great.
I can just kind of hide and plane sight.
Here it'll be awesome.
And if truth be told, I bought the tickets for me.
I said that I bought them for my wife for her birthday,
and I did give them to her birthday.
I bought it because I wanted to go to that con.
Okay, so later on, it's a year a little bit ashamed of this.
And it's just now you're being unmasked now,
but you volunteered it.
You can't tear me out.
Jeremy's clearly at the Aristotle.
No, but this is the first ever Billy kick someone
out of the conversation because now he wants to,
he wants to get on the bandwagon late
when you could have been before anybody.
You were before anybody here.
Well, I mean, I'd say, it's not fun when everybody else
joins the thing that you like, you know what I mean?
So I was like, I just will kind of enjoy it privately.
I was kind of upset. I don't like this new popularity, this new thing that you like, you know what I mean? So I was like, I just will kind of enjoy it privately. I was kind of upset.
I don't like this new popularity, this new thing
that the tickets were hard to get.
I had myself, my wife, and I even had my dad sign
into the pre-sales for the Miami thing.
We didn't get them.
Didn't get them, of course.
But I've been told to be patient
that what ends up happening, and I don't know why I'm saying
this on the air, because it will not benefit me in any way.
I've been told that what happens up happening, and I don't know why I'm saying this on the air because it will not benefit me in any way. I've been told that what happens for the terrorists who have concerts is a week before
they re-release a bunch of tickets that were like kind of on hold for like promotional things or whatever
and you could get them at face value if you're just patient to let some people on the waiting list low.
So I'm there on the waiting list, we'll see what happens, Dan.
You want to go? If I get to-
It is the toughest ticket anywhere in Nevermind Sports entertainment.
Jeremy's enjoying this way too much.
Yeah. This punishment. Plus, Genesis is in there. Who's next?
Can I go?
Yes. Genesis is here until she's stepping on someone.
That's how she matches.
Yes, she does. She's lashing people.
Who is it?
Carmen.
We have here, though, Billy, you just said something.
You said, I don't want to say this on air because it doesn't benefit me in any way
Oh, there's so many things like that
I don't know if you guys are like that. I try to think of what our beneficial keep it secrets to keep to myself
Like today when I was driving in I know exactly the perfect way to take the Paul Metta on the 836 to get here
Down to the lane and when to switch lanes. I know the perfect route
But I don't want to publicize that because then people will take my lanes and know when it is that I
switch out of said lanes and then those lanes will get clogged and I will lose my
essential express pass that I have. I know you're doing so you have everyone on
your exact same route. No, they're not. At the moment they're not on my route, but
I'm saying if you take this is very popular. If you think somebody's gonna get
out three exits early, if he gives them the short cuts, then everyone else goes the
same way. That's it. I tell them what? No, it's not the
Elser. It's when you take the A36 is very popular. And so as a Palmeadow, I will not be
ashamed for saying that. But I know which lane to be at when you're passing Marlon's
Park. I know which lane to be at while you're passing the airport. I know which lane to pass
when you're passing that weird thing on 57th Avenue where all of a sudden the street
switch sides
For some reason, I don't forget how to drive bold prediction. It's the left lane. No, no, it's the right lane shut up
It's the right lane where it's turning in he goes over and flies
Right now Conversation eras to her right now. Go to the eras Tony tell is wrong with Tony out and I saw
It's incredible Tony eras to her Tony's the media
That's a cheap. It's the cheapest you'll ever get there Tony
You guys
Miss now that we're just unmasking a belly you do shut your stupid pretty mouth, Tony.
You do shut that.
But I was trying to segue because you're not helpful
at all to anybody, including the show when you offer.
Well, they keep my helpful secrets to myself.
You offer a traffic advice locally when we're not
in the local hour anymore.
And I'm trying to not offer.
And no, he's not. And I'm trying. He's not offering. No, he's not.
And I'm trying to get to Chris Cody
because he actually has something
that would be helpful to the audience
because you said I have so many secrets
that I don't want to share
because they'd be too helpful with the audience too.
They're too helpful to the audience.
Right.
Chris Cody has a genuine,
he's gonna help the audience here,
not be surprised later in the day
unless you listen to this podcast at night.
I have no idea what you said up there.
220 today.
There's a text coming.
Are you kidding?
I had 220 today.
It was your topic.
I thought you made it into another thing.
I was like, I got one helpful dolphins thing here if you need it.
It was amazing. It wasn't the best setup. setup granted, but I mean it's your thing Chris. I just want to warn America at 220
Today, wait wait wait wait. I want to show people. I want to show people. God I was scared there. I want to show people
Wait till 220
I want to let people see behind the curtain on what they got him wearing glasses because I was scared
So lonely feeling wait till they hear wait till they do it something later take it away
He turned and said I have no idea what he's talking about
We're too scared to ask me this is the better part about this. This is the funnier part about this
This is the better part about this. This is the funnier part about this.
How little Chris Cody has to do around here, in general.
That the only two things he thought were possible
was Dan had something from me about 220 today
and also he has the one positive thing
from bills and dolphins and those
are my only two choices.
If you would have said 220, I would have been right there with you.
You never said 220.
I hate it.
I hate it.
You right to it.
I hate you.
Taxes are due folks.
You had two things today.
Two.
You had two.
I love two things.
What?
It's just different.
That other stuff.
The good stuff.
Two, you had two, I love two things.
Well, it's just different.
That had other stuff, but the good stuff.
Ha-ha-ha-ha-ha.