The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Skippy Schumaker

Episode Date: October 3, 2023

Stu and Greg have questions about the entire Wild Card Series being on the road for the lower seed, and Billy is confident in his Marlins headed into the postseason. Then, Marlins manager Skippy Schum...aker joins us to discuss the Marlins season, the clubhouse culture, Beef and Pipe, the Mets grounds crew, and more. Plus, the Greg and Chris relationship, and Lucy's bus driver is a performance artist. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite! Presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants,
Starting point is 00:00:29 just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching band to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Billy, where are you with the Marlins right now? What is your state of fear, anxiety?
Starting point is 00:00:49 Big day. No, optimism. I'm optimistic today, because nothing's happened yet. How are the fillies against left handers? What are you expecting from Luzardo? Do you fear Bryce Harper? Where are you with this? Fear Bryce Harper.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Why would I fear Bryce Harper? What is he going to do? He hit 290 this year. Who do you fear? Harper? Where are you with this? Fear Bryce Harper. Why would I fear Bryce Harper? What if he get it? He hit 290 this year. Who do you fear? Who is like 340 compared to the back? Not for power. He didn't hit for a lot of power.
Starting point is 00:01:13 But I'm talking about lefties. How are the fillies against left handed pitching? Because I would assume that Lazardo could shut down anybody, but that lineup is formidable. I'm not worried about them. I'm already looking past them to the brave, so if you're gonna be perfectly... Wow, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:30 Confident. Yeah. Well, Greg Cody, this is typical, quenessential Greg Cody. He arrives at the baseball playoffs and immediately wants to change the rules, doesn't think it's fair that all three games, if there are three games,
Starting point is 00:01:44 have to be played in Philadelphia. Totally unfair. Ridiculous. It's crazy. It should not that should not exist in any sport where if you have at least a three-game series the underdog should get at least it should get not at least. The underdog should get one of those. So how do they do it? Exactly right. One one one. How do you do it? I you. That's the question. How do you do it? I, you know, that's a, that's my amy back to Philly three consecutive nights. That's a good question. Yeah, that's that is the question. That's why they can't do that. They added playoff teams. It's what new year's year. They certainly could. No, no, no, they certainly could do.
Starting point is 00:02:19 But how should they change the schedule? The days off fly back and forth for best of three? Yeah. It elongate the series by wonder how about make it a month long How about I think game three should be a home game for the road team. You get what I'm saying for the Warlett impossible if you get to a third game if you get close the team out at home what you have to do it in my Ami. You think game three three has to be what I'm just trying to help grow. I think I wait. Well, I got confused by that. I'm gonna be a home game for the whole team. That's what he said. That means that the Marlins bat last in Philadelphia or does that mean they go to Miami? I'm still working this out.
Starting point is 00:02:56 I go working out in the penalty box. I'm not gonna get a fight you on it. I have a suggestion. I do two three game series. First they're all gonna be in Philly. I'm with you. If you're doing them three days back to back, you don't want travel. Game two, Marlins are home and the stadium's empty. They had one. It's so normally. They had a bet.
Starting point is 00:03:12 I'm saying the Marlins are in Philly for game two. I'll have you guys know. You know, empty. I'll have you guys know, you bunch of chuckle heads over here, that this is the hottest ticket of this round. The Get in Price is $199. There's other teams at the Get in Price is $7. And it's APM game, the prime slot.
Starting point is 00:03:29 I saw the Marlins play the Phillies a few months ago, and I would say it was like 70, 30 Phillies fans, so I don't even know if you won a home game. I hate when that said, people always think it's not 70, 30. It feels like that because it's loud when the Phillies score. It's probably 50, 50. The Marlins won, and it was louder every time the Philly score. Okay, I've been struck by an epiphany.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Here's what happens. In a three game series, a best of three series, instead of having all three games in one city, which is patently unfair, you elongate the series by one or two games, you give. One or two games are days. One days. So, best of four. No, no, by one or two days, not games. It's still a best of three.
Starting point is 00:04:07 You give the underdog manager, skip Schumacher. You give him the choice. Magic of half. Whether he wants to play the first or the second game at home. Okay, you've got him flying all over the place. So the team, the less the less seated team gets the advantage to choose. Yeah, because they only get one game of the three. One of the things that makes that the worst take you've had since you said last
Starting point is 00:04:32 week that Messi should play only for Miami and never for anybody else, including his home country, which he got into a World Cup qualifying game of the penalty game. One of the reasons this is a terrible take is because the Phillies reward for being better over 162 game season than the Marlins is this advantage. The Marlins under previous playoffs scenarios would never be in the playoffs with a team six or seven games over 500. If they not had not expanded the playoffs to get these couple of extra days in
Starting point is 00:05:07 before the playoffs really start and because the Apple doesn't fall far from the tree and Chris Cody is capable of bad opinions just like his father. You can't make the ballpark empty, not just because it's $199 ticket. The reward for having a successful season for your business is that you get the
Starting point is 00:05:26 gate from that game where you have a bustling fan base trying to get tickets because it's me. Okay, well I can't do anything with that. I've been, I've been check made it. There's a big flaw in your argument, Dan. Your argument is that the advantage earned over 162 games should be complete and unequivocal and 100% advantage you get all the home games. My my thought is that yeah the fillies have earned an advantage and that advantage is to have two out of three games at home.
Starting point is 00:05:57 Okay, but the entire formula is a contrivance made to just allow the marlins to play meaningful games in August and September that we're all paying attention to because you've added so many wild cards to hold on a second. They also weren't the last wild card team. They would have made the playoffs in a previous incarnation of the rules as well. And a team that they're playing this year was a succeed that won the World Series last year. Five and six haven't been in the playoffs before. They're just inventing playoff spots for teams and the punishment is that look we don't want the season to go into November. We want the 162 game season to end in October.
Starting point is 00:06:31 We can't keep adding days and teams. But what are we doing here? Because we celebrated the heat for making the finals as an eight seed and they were a play-in team. They wouldn't have made the playoff or they could have been eliminated from the playoffs. If they were in baseball, they wouldn't have made the playoffs.
Starting point is 00:06:44 Half of their playoff appearances over the years are as in baseball, they wouldn't have made the playoffs. Half of their playoff appearances over the years are as low or as seeds they wouldn't have made the playoffs. What we're doing is objecting to Greg Cody arriving at the new playoff format and changing the rules here in order to favor his team. No, in order to give my team our team, my amy's team, a reasonable earned chance. Oh, they made the playoffs too.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Right. They may win this series. They beat. They won a season series seven to six. Philly's fans are scared. I'm just going to say they are. They should be scared of the more than it's right now. You don't want that division opponent. If you're the higher seeded team, all the pressure on the Philly's right here. Yeah. What Philly fans are feeling? Sal's that baseball can happen to them. That a. Am right. You're having anyone. Yeah. They'll play this anywhere. The Royal is on this game. Boulevard if we have to. Yeah. The Royals can win a best of three series right now.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Why don't you respect this Marlon? Yeah, that's also a lot of unfair. The Marlins this month have been one of the hottest teams in baseball. And there were only a few games worse in the entire year than the Phillies and outplay them head to head. So this is, look, if the Marlins win the series, it's not baseball happening. It's the team that over 162 was a little bit worse beating the other two. Why don't you give me the betting odds on the series because I would think that the Phillies tonight and the rest of the series are pretty big favorites.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Slide favorites, I think. Also, we are going to play a little more on. So like, what are we, that's the betting odds. They've been good against Zach we'll or two right i would i bet the marlin's just cuz it's value and because i expect baseball to happen and i don't think it's a lack of respect for the marlins to say the fillies are better than they are like it's not i'm not inditing the marlins the marlin's earn their way into the playoffs the marlin's surprise me the marlins over
Starting point is 00:08:22 achieved this season is this is a success right now no matter what happens from here what is the proper amount of respect and how it is how is it that you think i'm disrespecting the marlins by saying that i think the fillies are better and that doesn't mean anything that the fillies are better fillies are minus one ninety corner draft that's not a small favorite if the marlins had their two best starting pictures available i would agree with you that's the other thing they're broken right that's not a small favorite if if the marlins had their two best starting pictures available i would agree with you that's the other thing they're broken right that's they're going into the series it would be a look man baseball produces upsets all the time so i'm not even going to say would be that surprising if the marlins one but my guess is that there aren't a lot of odds
Starting point is 00:09:04 in these playoffs that are that much bigger than that one because they're not a, there are a few games over 500, they, because they won so many one run games, Billy, and their bullpen is good even though you don't like it. When they wanna be. It's our strength.
Starting point is 00:09:20 It's intense. It is the strength of this team right now, especially with Sandy out, the bullpen, it's, I know, I'm with Billy. It's scary to think about but it is I Like their bullpen. They have so many fresh arms that are hard to hit out of their bullpen But trying to win a bullpen series without a number one starter Are we gonna do an opener for game three? I mean, a susla Sardar would be a number one on some teams. Yeah, that's true But okay, so at the worst they're missing two of the three best stars.
Starting point is 00:09:46 But I'm just saying, the situation we find ourselves in, who's starting that third game? Edward Cabrera. It is. Yeah. The Philly's way down. Wait a minute. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:09:56 Still got this game, boy. No, wait a minute. Not quite a, the Philly's are the... Never quite a, oh. Never quite. No, the Philly's are the biggest favorite in the playoffs. They are. So now, now, the money is telling you the same thing that I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it.
Starting point is 00:10:07 I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it.
Starting point is 00:10:15 I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it.
Starting point is 00:10:23 I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'm not sure if I can get it. I'll contra being out. So a lot of people look at the Marlins who don't watch them all season long and see oh, there are two best pitchers are out. Let me throw all the money on the other team without actually knowing what this team has done over the last month without them. I don't believe that that's how gambling odds are made. I don't I don't believe public money on I don't believe you have a big is sets a lot. I believe that this is informed and while there is popular money that will come on the ignorance of just bed against the Marlins because they're not supposed to be there, once you've arrived at minus 190 with the money, it is at least in part because people doing the analysis on these things that are smarter than us, right? Because Stugots is just calling Lucy for picks after she gets hot. People who are smarter than us are putting those odds not just where the betting public is ignorant, but where the smart people are also on the money.
Starting point is 00:11:18 Yeah. Yeah, the money is agreeing with me. The money is saying, isn't it ridiculous that one team has all three home games? That's what the money is agreeing with me the money is saying isn't it ridiculous that one team has all three home games that's what the money saying the money is on a soapbox agreeing with me Lucy how uncomfortable are you right now wearing that neck brace I have terrible posture so I hope this is gonna be good for me but it is really not comfortable yeah I can't look up at the screen I have to look
Starting point is 00:11:44 that's the look though when you lean back that's what that's where the best look but it is really not comfortable. I can't look up at the screen. I have to leave back to do it. That's the look though. When you leave back, that's where the best look is right there. I wouldn't, don't say that, Billy. You can do it for nothing. This is how it counts. It absolutely counts. Or I will walk out right now and not come back.
Starting point is 00:11:59 Billy also said, I came in one day. We were all supposed to do Johnny Depp cost Yeah, Depp Sember. Yeah, that's a whole that's a group thing Dan you did it I did it in Depp Sember nobody else did it and Billy says it didn't because it was it was a Depp Sember Pageant that you're supposed to be a part of in which we were all going to compete and fans were gonna vote on you What was Johnny Depp was and then that winner of the Depp Sember Pageant Losed lost the punishment it It was going to be removed and you went rogue and just did on your own. Because no one else did theirs. We could use photographs
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Starting point is 00:13:05 Pfff. Pfff. Don Lebertard! Punch right this segment with what is your strike three call. Strike one would be strike and then you stand up and you give a good point to the right. Stoo gots! That's same for strike two.
Starting point is 00:13:18 But strike three, you get down low. You got your hands behind the catcher. All right, the right arm goes up into the air. Yeah! And then you finish it with a punch. The right the right arm goes up into the air Yeah, and then you finish it with a punch The right arm flings way up into the air This is the down lebertar show with this two gods He's very busy so we will not keep him very long, but Skip Schumacher finds himself in a position
Starting point is 00:13:50 I'm not totally sure he thought he'd find himself in before this season. Rare for this amount of success, this fast Skip Schumacher with us now. Thank you Skip for joining us. But let me ask you your level of surprise here. I tell you when you take the job, the percentage of chance that you believe you'll make the playoffs at the end of this season is blank. You would have told me what? I thought it was, we were going to make the playoffs only because of our rotation and our pitching staff. And I just thought that we were gonna have a chance in every single game.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Last year, the one run games that were lost, where I think we lost 40 of them. So if you just cut those in half, I thought we had a really good chance. And when we added a rise, I think that was the game changer for us. And once we added a real bad at the top of the order, to get on for a healthy salaire,
Starting point is 00:14:50 and with the pitching staff, they could keep us in every single game. I really thought we had a really good shot. And I didn't think we were in a development type of mode, our team. I thought we were in a win-now type of mode. I know a lot of the critics did not think that, but I think I thought we had a really good shot once I took the job. So that's the interesting part, I guess, about the season and how you and Kim were able to adapt and change the roster because you were in full belief of the pitching staff. And
Starting point is 00:15:19 Sandy obviously had a bit of a down year compared to winning the Saiyung last year. There were injuries in the rotation. And then towards the end of the year, you had a bit of a down year compared to winning the Saiyung last year. There were injuries in the rotation. And then towards the end of the year, you had a bullpen game, every, you know, fifth game. So it's just, I guess, a credit to you and Kim and how you were able to do it. So how surprising are you that you guys were able to hold on? Well, it's a credit to our staff, for sure. Definitely not just me, you know, Mel Stott and Meyer and B. Farb bullpen coach was, you know, really good as far really good as far as getting the bullpen right. We made some changes obviously throughout the year on kind of late inning leverage bull
Starting point is 00:15:54 pin matchups. But yeah, for the most part, our bullpen or our rotation was decimated the last two months and we had to be creative of getting through games. And our credit to our bullpen, it was whatever you needed at any time. And we had two openers a week for the last probably six weeks when Sandy went down. And that was not easy.
Starting point is 00:16:17 It was taxing on our bullpen. We had a 16 game stretch where we had limited starters. So it was really challenging. There's no doubt about it. But guys stepped up at the right time. It tested our depth in the minor leagues. And I think that's why we are where we are right now because of the guys that stepped up. Tell me more about beef. Uh, beef is an incredible, uh, subheat. Uh, he's, I know we go with that.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Uh, you've been really good pitching coach. Good family man. Awesome. But why be stupid of that? But why, but why? Okay. Why, why, why, why do you have another coach? You have another coach named pipe.
Starting point is 00:16:57 What's? Why, why pipe? Uh, they're, they're just really good nicknames. Uh, I'll give it. Okay. Uh, I feel like we've cornered up. No, that's a story. I think they're just really good nicknames. I'll give it. Okay, I feel like we've cornered. No, that's a story. No, I feel like we've cornered the manager.
Starting point is 00:17:11 Not only are they good nicknames, they're in appropriate nicknames. And we now have Skip Cornard. He doesn't want, look at him. That is real shame on his face before an important game tonight. I'll switch over to another question. Who calls you in your life, Jared? Only my mom. Yeah, so when I was a kid, I had four Jared's on my baseball, on my T-ball team, which is kind of crazy. And my dad didn't love the name Jared
Starting point is 00:17:39 anyway for whatever reason. And so I could do a lot of things athletically, but I couldn't skip. reason. And so I could do a lot of things athletically, but I couldn't skip. And so my dad thought that would be funny. And he nicknamed me skip. And here I am. And skip, you know, 40 years later. And my mom calls me Jared or Skippy, which was awful in high school. She actually put Skippy as a license plate on my car When I was 16, I was probably brutal driving into high school Or the two or three years of it. That's why you're over-concentrated by getting jacked, right? You got all you got physically fit because you're like I got Skippy as a license plate. Skippy. Skippy with, well, yeah unbelievable. What can you tell me about the relationship with your parents that makes it so your dad
Starting point is 00:18:28 doesn't like your name? Like what's any apart of the decision-making process? I mean, my wife had a, she got to name my son and, you know, I loved it. Thank God. And Brody. So it pretty much, my dad left my mom name me and I don't I think there wasn't much argument. It's just you know, whatever made her happy and but he was going to change it eventually and did.
Starting point is 00:18:55 Skippy if I may, um, when you all made the deals for burger and Josh Bell, it seemed incredible outfit. I think every time the Marlins make the play off I dress like Harry Styles it's just a long standing tradition down here so congrats on that. You did it in 03 huh? Yeah it is 97 when he was born. I was sweating like a pig here. Skippy when you guys acquired burger and bell in all seriousness it seemed to provide the spark that led to where you are right now. To what degree did those two acquisitions sort of turn things for you?
Starting point is 00:19:33 Yeah, completely transformed, not only our lineup, but our clubhouse. Kim acquired really good human beings that provided leadership. You asked jazz, you know, who has impacted him the most this year and it was Josh Bell or Burger, which is crazy to think about that they've only been here a couple months now. And those are the guys that have impacted him the most showing him what work ethic looks like, a routine looks like, accountability. They have been incredible. Josh Bell has been playoff has been playoff tested as recently as last year. And in the first hitters meeting, he was the one that spoke up and Dovean and talked about the picture. And this is what we should do. This is how we should game plan. And he just brought everybody on board with him. Berger,
Starting point is 00:20:24 his work ethic is a 10 out of 10. He's been injured earlier in his career with Tuakili injuries and I think he does not take any day in the major leagues for granted. You can tell by the way he shows up that he's ready to go to war every single night. When you have those two guys come in and that type of mentality, it changes the culture of the clubhouse immediately. And by the way, we get burger for at least four more years, which is even better for our franchise and our organization. And somebody you can build around a controllable bat, which, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:58 we definitely need it. So Kim, you know, no pun intended hit a home run on both of those traits. I ask you the most professional player you've ever seen. And you can only choose one from work ethic and all of the things you're talking about there. You've played for a champion. A lot of big leagueers, I'm assuming you're gonna take a teammate of some sort, but give me one name
Starting point is 00:21:21 when you think maximum professional. That I've ever played with. Yes. Paul Goldschmidt. Wow. Goldie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, Albert Poole holes is obviously it's tough to say one, but Albert Poole holes is tough to not put right there too. So I know you said one, but Albert Poole holes and Paul Goldschmidt, I don't know how to like, take one over the other, honestly, forholz and Paul Goldschmidt, I don't know how to like
Starting point is 00:21:45 take one over the other, honestly, for what they meant to, you know, the teams and franchises. And if you could build a franchise around one person that loves base running, loves defense, loves hitting, loves his teammates, all the above, it'd be tough not to say Paul Goldschmidt's not your guy. That's how much, you know, I was impressed with him last year and Albert Poo-Hose is at the top of that list as well. So it's tough to say one or the other. Adam Wainwright is insane too, but you know, I'll leave you with Albert and Paul. With them far out of playoff pictures, seem as as if the Mets tried to sabotage a season.
Starting point is 00:22:25 That was the ground crew. That was as angry as you've been with an opponent all season, correct? You trying to do what you did with the tarp there? I was a mistake on my part because I didn't, I totally even crossed my mind that there was cameras on during a rain delay. And so I just, I had enough. I just had enough. My job is to protect the players and to serve the players and have their best interest. What happened that whole week was not protected. They were protected at all and I just felt like something needed to be said After the three-hour randole when it was dry and nothing was being done and so
Starting point is 00:23:12 MLB did an awesome job amazing job trying to get that game in they really did the umpiring crew umpiring crew tried to get that game in as much as they could they knew the ramifications of that game and They were going for it. The grounds crew did not. And that's what I was upset about. Wow. Well, you angry when you saw the grounds crew taking a picture of Fr. Lee, Mullins dug out when everything was said and done. And was the talk of a protest? Were you going to follow a protest? There's no talk of a protest. We were planning on going into New York on the off day, yesterday, if we had to, but no talk of a protest.
Starting point is 00:23:52 Or was I angry about the picture? It just kind of solidified why I was angry, an hour before, having to deal with that group. I want to ask you two follow-ups there, and I will leave it alone, but an act of active sabotage by the Metz grounds crew. Yes or no? No, I don't think so.
Starting point is 00:24:14 I think they just, they forgot to tarp a few days prior to that. That's what got me upset at the beginning. That's why we had a double header. How you forget to tarp when there was a tropical storm coming in. It doesn't really make sense to me. Oh, I forgot. So I don't think it was after that.
Starting point is 00:24:33 I think it was just a mistake, which, you know, that's kind of what got me going initially. Another time this season that you were that level of angry. another time this season that you were that level of angry. I would say that there's always balls and strikes that you just keep watching my players just keep getting, I can't say the word, but screwed. So I think the probably since an adi I was wasn't excited about some calls but I don't think I've ever been that mad at a grounds crew or a non-unpire I should say from another team. What'd you say? Come on. Give it up.
Starting point is 00:25:26 It was in rage. You're in the playoffs. It's fury. I just wasn't... The blame kept getting redirected. I wonder if you should be blamed. You were just going from place to place. Who will accept my fury?
Starting point is 00:25:47 And of course, your fury arrives and they're like, that guy over there wasn't me. So you never got good answers, correct? Right. And so that was, he was the headgrounds crew guy. And so yeah, that's, that's, he, he, he was going to wear it. But you're embarrassed by the idea that you went out there and handled the tarp yourself. You're embarrassed by that that it was on video. No, at that part, so I went to UC Santa Barbara.
Starting point is 00:26:12 We were tarp in the field every single morning to play that night. Hand in a dirt practice that day. And there's so much rain. So the idea that I didn't know what a tarp taking off a tarp looked like that was told to me Didn't I just show them how it looked? Because I've done it a million times
Starting point is 00:26:36 Don't tell me how to unroll a car My job for two years at 7 a.m. Before class. I know how to do this My job for two years at 7 a.m. before class. I know how to do this. I think the embarrassing part was when I was yelling at the grounds true guy. That part was, I wish it was underneath in my office or in the tunnel. I don't regret the argument. I just regret it being on TV. Last note here, can you articulate for me how it compares to other things that you have felt in your playing career, the fulfillment of taking pictures on a field
Starting point is 00:27:13 because of how you played the last three weeks of the season, going through the brewers and the braves and the dodgers to get what you wanted. Explain, articulate for me your joy and where it is that you got most moved by the accomplishment. No joke, I'm getting chills right now thinking about it. From where we were spring training,
Starting point is 00:27:36 losing literally every single game, I know spring training doesn't matter, but man, we're getting our ass kicked. That's just the reality. We were getting our butt kicked. We had some WBC guys that were away with some other guys playing, some important innings in spring training. And to watch them grow, so learn,
Starting point is 00:27:53 turning into a real clubhouse leader, a riot is turning into another real clubhouse leader, watching the growth of Lozardo and Braxton. And when guys fell, as know, as far as like, you know, Sandy going down and guys stepping up in two roles that they were not never used to canner Scott coming in for four out saves time and time again, Nardi coming in in the high leverage situations, bases loaded, no outs, no runs. Guys have not gone through this before and you don't know if you can do it until you're
Starting point is 00:28:30 put in that situation. The belief in our staff that these young guys can do it and continue to put them in these situations, knowing that we knew they could do it. They just had to believe it for themselves. That goes a long way, but to see Kim out there, first V-mail GM, to get into a postseason, a lot of our staff that have not been, or a lot of the players that have not been in a postseason, the fans and above our dugout in Pittsburgh
Starting point is 00:29:01 that haven't seen a real postseason. All of that together. You just kind of look up and look around and it really was unbelievable. It was surreal. The joy, the happiness on these guys' faces. I'll never forget it. I've been a postseason as a player, but to see those guys, all the work that they put in, to get to where we get to, but to see those guys all the work that they put in to get to where we get to, it was one of the best days ever. Thank you and congratulations and which would it be harder and more inappropriate for you to describe?
Starting point is 00:29:34 Beef or pipe? Which from, what, it's gotta be pipe, right? It's gotta be pipe. Pipe is much easier to discuss than the beef the B1 yes. Wow okay very good well leave it a mystery it wasn't upset I thought I don't think it's because pipe is good I don't skip let's go skip let's go stripper see you later let me guys thank you see you let me too. Wow, the rare you love the other way that time. He initiated. It's weird Don Lebertard
Starting point is 00:30:11 Stugats if you give him the choice Stugats you can have the very same thing one of two ways you could get it honestly or you could steal it He'll always choose stealing it. Stugats. Well, it's the quicker path. I mean, let's just do that. This is the Dalé Batarshow with a Stugats. There aren't a lot of places where I can say with confidence I have the life experience here that would make something in my wheelhouse confidently.
Starting point is 00:30:41 However, working with your father is something that I feel qualified to talk about. And Greg Cody and Chris Cody working together on the Greg Cody podcast featuring Greg Cody. With? Fine. Has been a source of great tension. I had to mediate peace with them last week in the garage both of them very stubborn about things But what what I recognize and seeing the relationship between Greg and Chris is that Chris will always be Greg's little boy no matter how adult he is this was the problem for me on highly questionable my father never thought I was in charge he was in charge. Well, he was. I mean, and daddy. This is what daddy of daddy day.
Starting point is 00:31:30 Yeah. Like he is in charge of that podcast. And sometimes his son who's working very hard wants to go to a dolphin game, get drunk and not have to work on his father's podcast. I think we can agree that that podcast, while important to Chris Cody, is not as important, nothing in the world is as it is to Greg Cody. Greg Cody's podcast is the symbol for his career punctuation. It has his name on
Starting point is 00:32:00 the title twice. It's not Greg Cody featuring Chris Cody. With. It's Greg Cody featuring Greg Cody and you can find it wherever it is that you get your podcast. And please do. I got a thing. And you know it. Come on now. He's right.
Starting point is 00:32:15 And you know, that's the laziest you've ever gone through your hits right there. And Billy, it's the laziest Billy supported it too. Like that's them just hitting the final notes on Wow, we're bored with this. He's right. And you know it. Baby Brad, that kind of thing. Yeah, baby. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:32 Yeah. That kind of thing. All right. No, we got a great new podcast. So Jeremy's on it. He's singing Showtune. Hey, oh, what a great story. Jeremy tells about when I ask him whether or not
Starting point is 00:32:43 he in the middle of a post game shower with his high school baseball team He broke into a show tune. What a wonderful story that was it didn't happen. Whoa spoiler Hard yeah, it's great to go. I mean it was the premise was there. It could have run with it Stumbled with it. That kind of thing good podcast anyway great, great episode. And Christopher, by the way, with his tale between his legs, came through for me this week with a little dolphin post mortem, which I couldn't do because I was on a cruise ship steaming from the behind. And did I bash him as a person? Did I bash him for missing? No, I didn't. No, but your father loves applying rules to others that don't apply to him. He was rage filled.
Starting point is 00:33:27 He didn't speak to his son for days and furthermore polluted last week's show with his rage. Thank you. Because he couldn't bring himself to funny because he was so mad at his son for tailgating enjoying 70 points and enjoying a 70 point victory. Yeah. And not sharing it with my podcast audience. He wanted the exclusive get of his Son drunk from the tail date. That's exactly what I wanted. He deserves it. Calling it a raucous bar. Rotten Delife. I mean, with Daddy Day being chanted in the background.
Starting point is 00:34:00 That's what I wanted. Did I get it? Daddy Day. No. Thank you. Da, da, da, da, da is important. An original song that will not stop. Lucy has told me that yesterday we played the short version somehow of this annoying bus driver. We have a longer version and she says, it was nonstop for many, many minutes. He never stopped singing.
Starting point is 00:34:42 So Lucy, what context do we need for this? So he sang multiple songs, not just one original song. This was the first song he sang for everyone. And it wasn't like he was like, oh, I think I'm just going to sing today. It was clearly planned out because he had an open line. He had a performance. Is he open it? Yeah, that way. He got this song. First set. He looked in the mirror before going on stage in the morning and prepared for, I'm going to sing to these weary travelers. I've got a performer buried inside of me and I'm now just a bus driver at the airport that will not stop me from being entertaining.
Starting point is 00:35:17 Listen to this, how annoying is this, Chris Gaudi. I didn't get to sleep at all last night. I got you thinking, baby, I, I, I could drink up on a coffee some Oreos. Turn out I can hear them watch you two videos at my list. I didn't get to sleep at all I ate ball-kai to my best I should get more rest One more and more I said that when I go to bed There's just too much going on in my head Oh, that's like I didn't get to sleep at all
Starting point is 00:36:07 No, no Oh Bring it back to the Did you get to sleep? No, I didn't get to sleep at all. I know, no. What's going on over here? Thank you, I know. So good. Greg Cody, your thoughts? He loves it. You know what? That's the kind of thing that is absolutely delightful for about 30 seconds and then it falls off a cliff and becomes the most annoying thing you've ever heard of. He sang two more songs after that by the way. Really? Two more songs.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Part of the first set. I mean, everyone everyone here had the same reaction listening to that, which is that would be Greg Cody as a bus driver. Yeah. Oh, I, yeah, whatever latent talent I have waiting to come out would come through because I'm not gonna let a bus hold me back, Jack. You know, I'm gonna do my thing. I would, so I would take requests, you know, I would have a boom box on the seat just to the left of me. Right. So it was inconspicuous. So what I respect about band what I respect about this driver is he wasn't taking Request he wasn't playing the hits he was singing his own stuff and it was pretty good He didn't nail it in Jeremy you have a professional voice. That was a pretty good voice, right seems like someone who clearly was a Musical theater performer and wrote a musical about his experience as a spus driver there you go more power to them Don't be held back people with talent you may not have the job to show it make it do it
Starting point is 00:37:49 anyway despite your job singing in office do whatever you got to do i need to explain to the audience lucy has said please do not sing to me without permission but i need to explain to the audience listening only on audio without video that Greg kody's gas station glasses are so cheap and plastic that the amount of humidity and fogging that there is because the glasses that are hard-shaped are too close to his face looks like a bear ass of a very small, small child
Starting point is 00:38:22 has been sat upon those glasses and left an imprint. Uncomfortable, weird sentence. But it looks like either angels wings or the imprint of an ass. Those are the angels wings. It's an oddly specific visual. I mean, a small child is, hey, come on now. Come on now.

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