The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Smiling At The Idiocy

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

Brett Favre announced yesterday that he has Parkinson's Disease at a congressional hearing regarding his fraudulent spending, and Dan is comparing the plea for empathy to Kevin Spacey's interview with... Piers Morgan. Tony explains how he didn't know Rickey Henderson stole a lot of bases and his explanation actually sorta kinda makes sense. Then, we have a Behind the Bit about how the Phlegmbrandt came to be and Billy is not very happy that he was not selected to talk about it. John Fisher released a letter to Athletics fans as they are set to move out of Oakland and David Samson is here to discuss it. We also have a great rant from Larry Beil in response to the letter and Izzy and Stu have some great ideas for a Larry Beil podcast name. Then, Jeremy bores us all to death with baseball talk, David Samson loves that the Pirates cut Rowdy Tellez four plate appearances shy of a bonus, Colton Cowser had a pizzookie and David discusses the new Ellen comedy special. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:19 register in Canada. Welcome to the big suey presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys
Starting point is 00:01:46 I've done it and now here's the marching man to nowhere fat face and the habitual liar So I wasn't trying to make anyone feel bad for Kevin Spacey But he is refusing to leave his Baltimore mansion And this is Kevin Spacey on Piers Morgan, and he's definitely trying to make people feel bad for him. Where'd you live now? Well, it's funny you asked that question, because this week, where I have been living in Baltimore, is being foreclosed on.
Starting point is 00:02:25 My house is being sold at auction. Really? So I have to go back to Baltimore and put all my things in storage. Really? So the answer to that question is, I'm not quite sure where I'm gonna live now, but I've been in Baltimore
Starting point is 00:02:43 since we started shooting House of Cards there. So how long is that? I moved there in 2012. So this has been your home for 12 years? Well, not this particular place, but this place has been my home and Evan and Lucy's home since 2016. Why is it being full closed? Because I can't pay the bills that I owe. Are you facing bankruptcy? Because I can't pay the bills that I owe.
Starting point is 00:03:05 Are you facing bankruptcy? Been a couple of times when I thought I was going to file, but we've managed to sort of dodge it. At least as of today. How much money do you have? None Really? Well, I mean, you know You have some sense of legal bills. Yeah, I Still owe a lot of legal bills. You're actually in debt
Starting point is 00:03:41 Yes Do you mind me asking how much you are? It's, uh, it's considerable. Millions? Many millions, yes. The house itself is many millions. What are you gonna do? Get back on the horse. Get back on the horse.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Get back on the horse. Pete In that interview, among other things, and I should point out that everything that you've read about Kevin Spacey is alleged and he was found not guilty in a trial, but he is trying to make his way back. And if you watch the documentary on Max, there is no way back from what it is that he stands accused of, whether he was found not guilty or not. So you did watch the documentary.
Starting point is 00:04:30 I did, yes. I have not. Is there anything to defend his behavior? Now I know you mentioned the allegedly, I know he has been found not guilty of sexual assault in one case, but he has also sort of, he talked about apologizing for drunkenly behavior. He, I think, argued in this interview
Starting point is 00:04:52 with the phrase groping, and he said, I would call it being handsy, which is just semantics. I don't know what really he has to stand on other than the terrible acting he was doing in there. He does so much better acting. Why was he acting so terribly in that interview? What is it that he possibly has to come back? What does he have to stand on?
Starting point is 00:05:11 Because this is just the worst case I've seen in a long time of just a famous person getting away with things because he's famous. There are a lot of them, and Harvey Weinstein and others, Diddy now, I am legitimately mortified and totally confused by how absolutely power corrupts but one of the things that happened with spacey in Baltimore that the documentary laid out very well is
Starting point is 00:05:35 how he got stronger and stronger until he could create a theater in his hometown that was allegedly an epicenter for all of his grooming, that he got very good at it. They had a lot of different voices, one of whom was a straight military man that made it clear through his allegations as all of his military friends said, I would have killed Spacey if he had done that to me. I would have done this. And his response was, was no you wouldn't have
Starting point is 00:06:08 When faced with that power and fame and the access to it He's like no you wouldn't have and then he had to go off camera because he got mad at himself for getting emotional In he didn't want to get emotional But he thought it was important that someone who looked like him thought like him was straight could show you look how powerless you can feel In the face of that power. I thought it was the most powerful thing in that documentary. Yeah, and I think we've seen enough examples of that, of that sort of display of power, and so, and to understand how helpless people can feel and how they give in to whatever it is that that person is doing to them. So the idea that Kevin Spacey, again,
Starting point is 00:06:46 I just mentioned the idea that famous people get their opportunity to come out and say however they want and paint the picture. I mean, we talked about, I think Brett Favre yesterday, how he was treated by those, was it senators, that were speaking to him. And he got this opportunity to, whether you believe him or not,
Starting point is 00:07:03 or whether you feel sorry for him or not, to just clear his name a little bit, to just be in the public eye again. And here you have Kevin Spacey doing the same thing when we don't have the 20 plus accusers getting that same opportunity. And it's the same thing when I think of Deshaun Watson, when I think of a lot of folks who are accused
Starting point is 00:07:23 multiple times of something, it's just, okay, like how many times are you gonna say it was a misunderstanding or it was, you know, that person remembers things differently? I think we've all seen enough examples to understand what people in power can do and this is one of those disgusting ones. Why have you not watched it?
Starting point is 00:07:40 I would think that you might find it interesting just because I thought it was well done and it has a lot of voices in it and I haven't seen very good reporting on this particular issue because you can't watch that documentary put it next to that Pierce Morgan interview and not think that Kevin Spacey is acting there trying to get sympathy that the whole reason he's doing that interview is to attempt to get back at money and power when I don't believe he has a chance given what's alleged about him.
Starting point is 00:08:14 And again, found not guilty, so he's trying to make the argument, well if I'm not guilty in a court of law, why shouldn't I be working? And then you hear his accusers and you're like, oh that's why he can't be working. I mean, short answer to your question is it just hasn't been placed in front of me enough times
Starting point is 00:08:29 where I had to go search for it and watch it. But the longer answer is, you know, I have to be in a certain frame of mind to watch a lot of those videos. Anything that has to do with, you know, LGBTQ issues and especially just like bad people. It's heavy on me. It's a weight, it's emotional.
Starting point is 00:08:46 I go through a roller coaster watching it and so I just have to be in the right frame of mind, but I will watch it shortly. I will be curious of your thoughts because I thought there was real power in sort of seeing how it is that he got stronger and at the beginning as he's trying to allegedly sort through the difficulties with his
Starting point is 00:09:08 sexuality the people he was preying on were flamboyantly gay and so there was some loathing involved in how he treated people like that until the way the story is told in the documentary, he got strong enough to now find the power turn-on of let me see if I can do this with straight people. Like, let me see if I can escalate how exciting this is to me by trying to make my advances with people who are less likely to want them and the danger in that. I'm probably gonna watch the doc before I go
Starting point is 00:09:46 Really deep on this but it's it's just testing what level of power you have right you do it against okay So as a closeted gay man, he probably thought and saw flamboyant gay man as being out and being vulnerable But also being okay with everything right just hey I can you can be my guinea pig my test subject you will, because you're already out there in the world, and frankly, there's a form of sort of self-hatred there where you see that, that person that's freeing out and doing what he wants to do, and you hate that because you can't be that person,
Starting point is 00:10:14 and so you sort of add a negative element to that. It's like you are unimportant to me. Let me test what I can do with you. You're not who I even really want. And then you just keep pushing those boundaries and pushing those boundaries until you get to the point where, hey, I'm going after a straight man. And so it's just we've seen enough of these situations, enough people to recognize just the harm it does to be closeted, to hide all that for decades or years and years and just
Starting point is 00:10:39 the damage that it does, especially when you're in a very public setting like Kevin Spacey is where you're just hearing it left and right, whether you shouldn't be this way, or even in a setting like Hollywood, where it is kind of accepted, but you still see people getting blacklisted or not getting roles because of LGBTQ rumors or truths or what have you. So it's just so heavy and so painful
Starting point is 00:11:02 and can lead to so many things, and it just depends on, I guess, what kind of person you are at some point. have you. So it's just so heavy and so painful and can lead to so many things and it just depends on I guess what kind of person you are at some point if it takes you down the Kevin Spacey. It's so interesting to me though the way that power corrupts here because this was a very clear illustration that very often I know many people know this but to see it play out on a screen oh this isn't about sexuality or sensuality this isn't about trying to be someone who is just interested in sex this is power this is where sexual assault and rape reside
Starting point is 00:11:37 this is where Diddy is allegedly residing on it's no longer enough to just enjoy the sex now you have to escalate it to a place where you're enjoying the power over people and next thing you know you got a thousand bottles of lubricant and baby oil in your house you got 700 dildos and it's something like how in the world do you let rise to a level of power and fame that it's this? Corrosive that that you need to keep pressing on the addiction of power to keep escalating it to make people feel powerless in front of you And I I want to talk to somebody who's informed about all of the things that are being reported
Starting point is 00:12:19 About Diddy because the so the pathology and the sociology of it about diddy because the so the pathology in the sociology of it how do you become that level of the evil because you become this drunk on power and also by the way are you willing to make leaps after that now that you're reading some of these details about diddy well what do we think about what happened to biggie and and some mysterious death situations because if you're willing to do this with power what's the big leap to the other stuff you're willing to do this with power,
Starting point is 00:12:45 what's the big leap to the other stuff you're willing to do to hide that you're doing this with power? Yeah, it's just wild when you think that Diddy himself, has, like, I used to think, hey, maybe he's so drunk on fame and doing whatever he can do that it just normalizes the situation. It doesn't seem that crazy. And yet, you go back and listen to old interviews of him,
Starting point is 00:13:06 and he'll tell you, hey, I'm probably gonna get arrested for what's going on in my parties years from now. So, it's not normalizing, and it's not him doing things that he thinks are okay, it's just him grabbing at the power and saying, hey, I'm going to scratch on every itch that I have in my life, and if it goes a little too far Whatever can you guys look up for me something because I remember years ago the first time I started thinking of any of this stuff
Starting point is 00:13:32 I'd heard a story about Belinda Carlisle a lead singer of the go-go's and just what fame did to her when she became Someone who used it used a lot of drugs and also had the number one song in the world where in order to feel alive, the way the story was told to me, she would go into gas station bathrooms and lick the corners of the floors to just get off her whatever the numbness was of fame being such a disorder that all of a sudden, and power being such a disorder, that you don sudden, and power being such a disorder,
Starting point is 00:14:05 that you don't even know how to live a normal life and have to go find things that make you feel. I think you're seeking the numbness, actually. You don't want to feel anything when you're that level of famous. You're looking for the, I don't have to worry about this, you know, how I act in public. I don't have to worry about if you have an addiction, let's say, I don't have to worry about this, you know, how I act in public. I don't have to worry about if you have an addiction,
Starting point is 00:14:27 let's say, I don't have to worry about addressing this and other people dealing with me. So you would do something as crazy as that just to have your brain focus on something else. I wanna transition awkwardly back to some sports stuff. Jeremy is dying to talk baseball. Tony, Mike sure is ripping you to anyone who will listen for saying the other day that you didn't know
Starting point is 00:14:46 that Ricky Henderson was so good at stealing backs. I do have a question about that to you, Tony. What did you think Ricky Henderson was particularly good at? No, great at stealing bases. I know the picture of him holding the base over his head. I just didn't know he had 138 of them. So you think he picked it up after stolen base number 25.
Starting point is 00:15:02 No, I thought it was- Why'd you think he picked it up? I mean, that would suggest you're the greatest at what it is. Yes. Stealing bases. I thought it was a career milestone that he had passed. Oh, Jesus. Therefore, he grabs it, puts it over his head. Hey, wow, I hit the 750.
Starting point is 00:15:15 That was right up there for me with Stu Gat saying Edmonton Oilers, not a lot of people know they have a lot of rings or a lot of cups. And he, the guy who knows the goats all he knows is the goats And the greatest and the champs and should know that Wayne Gretzky won multiple cups in Edmonton that one right there Tony same What year is that? Do you guys have it off the top of your head on Ricky Henderson? Yeah, it would have been last century It would have been like 1980 something the early 90s. I'm gonna guess early 80s. Maybe late 80s. I wasn't born yet So okay. Well, we're happy to teach you.
Starting point is 00:15:45 I'm just telling you that Shur is ripping you from every angle. I just want you to know that. It hasn't come to me yet, so he hasn't been saying it in the right places. Must be saying it on pitch clock. Michael Jordan was drafted either, but you know about him.
Starting point is 00:15:55 Yeah, but he has says. How old is Mike Shur? Afrini Hardaway, he said Afrini Hardaway. I'm sorry, Afrini, my bad. I didn't have my glasses on that day The thing that I wanted to transition though, too I wanted to ask you guys this is Jeremy hears the baseball talk and scurries back into the room Because he's just dying to talk about all the stuff going on in baseball. We were denied something yesterday By the way, the White Sox beat the Angels. So instead of celebrating the good baseball
Starting point is 00:16:23 I wanted badly to celebrate today that the White Sox were officially Angels, so instead of celebrating the good baseball, I wanted badly to celebrate today that the White Sox were officially the worst team in baseball history, but we will have to wait a day, and I'm kind of hoping they go on a winning streak the rest of the way here to avoid it. I don't want them to actually be the worst team in baseball, but they're going to have to win like seven or eight straight games, right? Winning out would be amazing. Quickly, we've done the research.
Starting point is 00:16:44 1982 was when Ricky Henderson had 130 stolen bases. 11 years before I was born. Yeah. 42 years ago. What are we talking about? Did it even happen if it happened 42 years ago? But Tony, it's word association. Like, Ricky Henderson, stolen bases.
Starting point is 00:16:59 Yes. You knew that. Yes, I did. Just 130 of them feels like a lot when we're talking making a big deal about Otani stealing 50. John Sterling, I don. Just 130 of them feels like a lot when we're talking making a big deal about Ohtani stealing 50. John Sterling, I don't know if you guys saw this, and I'm curious what you guys think of it, because Bobby Bowden said famously
Starting point is 00:17:15 that he didn't want to retire from coaching because he said there's only one big event after you retire where people gather for you. Great Cody's birthday party. And John Sterling retired at the age of 80 earlier this season because he didn't want to endure what is a terribly long baseball season. But after a five month retirement, all of a sudden,
Starting point is 00:17:37 he's totally back. The Yankees are in the playoffs, and he's strolling back into the booth. He's strolling back into the booth. He's strolling back into the booth because, and I can't believe he's allowed to do it. He retired and good for him by the way. He should be allowed to do it. He is John Sterling.
Starting point is 00:17:52 He is a legend. When he wants to walk back into that booth, he walks back into that booth and he doesn't ask anyone a single question. I mean, that's it. He's Sterling. Can I play for you guys the only thing that I associate with John
Starting point is 00:18:05 Sterling which is him being hit by a foul ball in the booth now the three two swung on a pop foul back here I've only really hit me I didn't know it was coming back that far you know that foul ball actually hit me. It kind of glanced off my forehead. So I took one for the team. Play that again, please, and then freeze it for me where it is afterward, where it is that he just gets hit in the face and it knocks his glasses off. Three, two, swung on, a pop foul back here.
Starting point is 00:18:43 It bounced off something and went up off the top of his brow. He's got a freshly dyed hair. Looks amazing right there, allegedly. And then he... Man, that looks like it hurt. I can't believe he kept it going. He stayed professional. I can't believe his glasses stayed on his head, too.
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Starting point is 00:21:53 He has blamed his region This is the done libertar show with a stew gods, this is behind the bit This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit. This is behind the bit. Where we go back in time, we peel back the curtain, and we explain to you how bits made. It was a better time. It was a time where we were trying. So, um. Sorry guys.
Starting point is 00:22:13 That's okay. Can you explain Flembrant to us and how it came to be? I mean, I was just coughing. This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here.
Starting point is 00:22:23 This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here. This is where it came to be right here to us and how I came to be? I mean I was just coughing This is where it came to be right here that he's always a little phlegm he hasn't taken care of his voice ESPN radio is I'm with Lewis Taking his shirt off doing stuff like that shirt off doing something taking his shirt off doing stuff like that no chance Man Mike is right Taking his shirt off, doing stuff like that. Taking his shirt off, doing stuff like that. No chance. Man. The mic is right.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Oh, man. Oh. Oh. As I recall, we were testing the theory during Art Basel, whether art was subjective or not. And Stugat said, watch this. I bet you I can just go down there and sell art on the street. And then he did. He just charmed his way into, I don't know, you got a few hundred dollars.
Starting point is 00:23:03 I think we got like four or $500 for all those. We should have gotten more now that I'm thinking about. What Billy is holding up for the TV audience, for the radio audience, what Billy is holding up is the Kevin Durant trophy case. It is KD's trophy case. It is one of my favorite pieces. I worked very, very hard on it.
Starting point is 00:23:20 Took me nearly six months to complete. That is Kevin Durant's trophy case. We call it KD's trophy case. I'm gonna autograph that thing. I really think it's the prize piece today, and I'm expecting to get at least four figures for it. That is a piece I like to call Murray! And so really what it is-
Starting point is 00:23:40 It's two pieces. It's two pieces. We worked very hard on this. I worked very hard on it. I will autograph it. I'll try to get Murray to autograph it as well. This is, what is this here? That is the Gays of the Franchise.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Okay, so for the radio audience, these are two giant eyeballs and the Jets coach is, it's just a Jets hat and a couple of squiggles. The Gays one was great. I played golf with him like a week later after I did that, made fun of his face. Look at me, Louie.
Starting point is 00:24:05 That was an unnecessary name drop there. I'm just saying, well, it lends to how shameless I am. The fact that I did that to Adam Gase, sold a picture, made some money, and then acted like it never happened and played golf with him. But the theory behind it was, I hate when people go to these art shows
Starting point is 00:24:20 and they see something that they think only they can see. Oh, here's what I see. No, I don't see that. No, you don't see that. No, you're talking yourself into why this thing is so valuable. And so I told Dan, I can go out and do, you know, a couple of, a couple of prints, you know, paint a few things, a little Adam gaze, Kevin Durant trophy case, JJ Watts, you know, doing some stuff, no rings, all that stuff, Chris Paul. And I could command a lot of money because beauty is in the eye of the beholder Okay, here what here's what's not in the eye of the beholder because the people beholding that and actually holding that don't know
Starting point is 00:24:55 Stu that's didn't paint any of those Billy did all of that. That is counterfeit art that they bought It's not even the real thing and we should have have gotten more. Yes. For the counterfeit arts. For his fraud. For the fake arts. Yes. Flambrant should have earned more. I have a bid right now, Dan. I have a $30 bid right now on Gays of the Franchise. The gentleman with the dog has been $30 on the Gays of the Franchise.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I also have a bid on KD's trophy case. It's not a big bid. It's only $20. But we're just getting started here, Okay. I want to make a bet. We have a $20 bid on that. Yeah, let's go. There's a man waving cash outside of his UOP. All right. Things are heating up. Traffic is now stopping in the street. Now we got a crowd. Now things are happening. We are John here.
Starting point is 00:25:45 We have 40 for Kevin Durant's trophy case. We have 40 for Adam Gase's, uh, Gase's affair shots. We have 40 for Murray. And I am throwing the Tennessee Titans into the deal. Okay? On the art day, did someone walk away without paying? No. What are you, crazy?
Starting point is 00:26:00 What's the matter with you? There's no circumstance under which Stugatz is going to allow someone else to walk away with what is his rightful money. Wait, one of our winners is walking away without paying. Hold on. We got to go. I think we're going to pull a plug on this. I think we got to collect.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Go get that guy back. Go get him back. All right, we have to go. We have to get money from these people. He ran off without paying. But a lot of people walked away paying way too much for what they bought. That's true. That is true. And again, walked away with counterfeit art, not even painted by Stugat.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Anyone can be an artist though, you agree, right? You just throw a bunch of different splats on a canvas and boom! Orp! But he didn't do any of the splats. There's a bird. Billy did the splats. He did. Anyone can be an artist though, you agree, right? Now that you're thinking about it.
Starting point is 00:26:46 No. What do you mean no? No, anyone can claim. You throw some yellow here, some aqua there, some green down there, you know, little red. Nope. It's just naming colors. Right? Oh yeah, no, don't pick that up, that's art.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Please don't pick that up, that is art. That is not garbage, it is art. Billy seems enraged back there. He should be. I'm fine. It seems like- It's an incomplete story. You were yelling throughout the bit.
Starting point is 00:27:10 It's a false document, it's a fake document. What do you mean you're fine? We wanna put out lines, that's fine, I'm fine. You said you're fine, you were screaming in my- I'm fine. In my headset the entire time that was playing, I was up all night, I did all the paintings. No, what I said was, you know, we did a thing
Starting point is 00:27:26 on something I was involved in. It would have been nice to actually be asked about the process, but if we're just gonna, you know, make up fake documentary lies, that's fine if that's what we want for that. Wow. That's fine. Not bad. I'm not mad.
Starting point is 00:27:36 I don't believe that behind the bit is a documentary. Just take it all with a grain of salt is what I would advise the viewers. You know, we're gonna exclude the people who are intricate in the execution of these things. That's fine. Okay, Samson, what are you making faces about? Just generally Billy's temperament disgusts you or what is it that you're making faces
Starting point is 00:27:56 about? Nothing personal is the name of his podcast. You can catch him every day live on YouTube. His podcast and the video is climbing steadily, getting more and more popular. DraftKings has a great deal of value for what David Sampson is doing with Nothing Personal. Why are you shaking your head? It's integral. That's what you're mad about? It's not intricate, Billy. It's integral. It's been a long day. I've got a lot of long emails. It can't be a long day already. It's been an hour and 10 minutes. It's 10, Billy, it's integral. It's been a long day, I've got a lot of long emails. It can't be a long day already.
Starting point is 00:28:25 It's been an hour and 10 minutes. It's 10 10, I mean. It is early in the day, but there aren't a lot of people here with stamina, David. You don't sleep, so that's part of the reason you're able to go 20 and 22 hours a day. Let's talk about some of the things going on in sports here real quick with
Starting point is 00:28:45 David Sampson. The Oakland A's thing is making me really sad and it has been for a while. That is a good baseball town and they've ruined everything there and now John Fisher wrote a letter to A's fans yesterday and I'm curious Larry Beal went off on him. Stugots did you know that Larry Beale formerly of Sports Center is now doing he's now doing broadcasts on the West Coast I was not aware that he was still in the game. I had no idea I was not aware as well and I'm glad he's still doing it. It's something exciting what did you make of that letter David? It gives you hope Stugots. It does. You's disappear from the zeitgeist and then
Starting point is 00:29:28 appear when there's a relevant story. It's, it's interesting. Teams have relocated before. And of course the owner's going to be the bad guy. And people remember people still walk around Brooklyn asking where the Dodgers are and art model is not exactly a fan favorite and neither are, are my necessarily in Montreal. But what John Fisher has done has just been so clumsy and the letter that he wrote and he signed to the fans it was so disingenuous it had a spelling mistake in the letter which is amazing. You ought to fire his ghostwriter. Still it would be like you having a spelling mistake in your book. It would be absurd. And so I was just
Starting point is 00:30:08 shocked by that letter, by the timing of the letter. Of course, people are at the games now stealing seats from the Coliseum. Stu got just whispered in my ear while you were talking, and I didn't hear the last sentence you said, because he just said to me, how did Larry Beale not parlay his ESPN career into a show that's called What's the Beale? Thank you. So good.
Starting point is 00:30:31 Tony likes it. So good. The Real Deal with Larry Beale? Oh wow! That's a better show. Here's the Real Deal with Larry Beale right now. Listen to how mad he got about this letter. Alright so you heard Fisher's statement, let me tell you what
Starting point is 00:30:47 reality is OK John you tried 5 different extremely flawed stadium proposals you never got even close to a shovel in the ground. Yes, Oakland politics is often a mess I will give you that but John you surround yourself with incompetent yes men and because you were born into a billionaire family, apparently never learned you have to spend money to make money. See Joe Laker and the Golden State Warriors, your buddy who still wants to buy the team. John, you're a serial penny pincher. You've destroyed your family's great name and legacy
Starting point is 00:31:22 because of your cheapness. As for the statement about loyal A's fans, quote, I wish I could speak to each and every one of you individually, end quote. Seriously? John, we've been trying to interview you for years, but you always choose to remain invisible unless you're begging politicians for public funding and then you're begging politicians for public funding. And then you're out in front in Las Vegas. Okay. Okay. Okay, so let me get this deal with us. Wow.
Starting point is 00:31:51 For all A's fans, I can't do this enough. Whoa, what? And that's the real deal with Larry Beal. Whoa. Yeah. He was so much better than Sampson with his A's take. How was his A's take so much better than Samson's You showed one minute if you listen today to yesterday's nothing personal you can get a 10-minute take on on that
Starting point is 00:32:23 We wanted one good minute here from you not ten good minutes over there and your recycled slop over here Why what what's the deal with Larry Beale being better than you at the A's take? More gesture David. He's lived it. He's despondent beyond repair. The fact is that the A's are going and they're trying to get expansion and I don't think he should have done that in that platform
Starting point is 00:32:40 because they, MLB looks at stuff like that and they're not happy with what's going on in Oakland. Tell me what you thought yesterday when you saw Brett Favre who's alleged to do some really despicable stuff to some of the poorest people in America when he's going in front of the politicians and saying he's had thousands of concussions and now has Parkinson's.
Starting point is 00:33:05 Your best friend has Parkinson's. You do a lot of work. You do a lot of work in this area and this is an awful kind of prison. Throwing Parkinson's out there as a diagnosis is something that will engender some empathy. It reminded me of when Kevin Spacey decided to come out. I know you just talked about this.
Starting point is 00:33:27 When he came out as a way to fight against the sexual abuse allegations, he then decided to come out of the closet and say that he was gay. Brett Favre is accused and in the middle of major problems because he stole money that was supposed to go toward welfare recipients. And in fact, it's a whole fraud and scam.
Starting point is 00:33:47 He used it as part of helping out his alma mater, which was very nice of him. But then he goes and tries to say, listen, I just want to say, I got a lot of concussions. I may be thousands. And by the way, I've got Parkinson's. So I feel badly about that fact because Parkinson's. So I feel badly about that fact because
Starting point is 00:34:05 Parkinson's is a nightmare. But the way that he chose to go public, that's not helping raise money for Parkinson's. That's not forwarding the mission of any of the organizations. It was done in his own self interest, which of course tracks with who Brett Favre is. Jeremy is dying to talk baseball. He's now at a white board there. He's finally got someone here who would like to talk baseball with him. Let's go out to the other room and Jeremy and his
Starting point is 00:34:32 whiteboard so he can bore us to death with baseball talk. Even though I love baseball, but this room does not get the baseball talk. What do you have Jeremy? Nothing boring about what happened yesterday in Major League Baseball. We're in the final week of the season and we're going to start right here with the NL West, the Dodgers and the Padres last night. It's unbelievable what happened in this game. The Padres three games back at the Dodgers for the division going into the game. And in the bottom of the ninth, you had two runners on first and second, nobody out. Shohei Otani on deck. Miguel Rojas at the plate with the Dodgers, down two.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And then, watch what happens on this play. Rojas on the ground to third, Machado touches third, fires to second. Ohhhhhhhh. Oh my goodness! It's a triple play! It ends the ballgame! Wow. The San Diego... Haha, holy shit. That was cool. Oh Wow Holy shit that was cool. That's a triple play. That's a triple play to end the game No team had ever ended a game on a triple play To clinch a playoff spot exactly what the San Diego Padres
Starting point is 00:35:41 Jeremy you're doing now two games back of the Dodgers with two games to play in that series and have an opportunity to catch them, potentially make the Dodgers a wild card team. And when we look at the rest of the NL before we get back to you guys, the Diamondbacks and Giants played last night. Diamondbacks lose 11-0 to the Giants who were out of it. Diamondbacks have lost three in a row. The Braves and Mets play, they both still have a shot at a wild card spot. Likely only one of them will get in unless the Diamondbacks have lost three in a row. The Braves and Mets play, they both still have a shot at a wild card spot. Likely only one of them will get in
Starting point is 00:36:07 unless the Diamondbacks collapse. Braves beat the Mets five, one in that game. They're now just a game apart. So as you look at that wild card picture, the Padres who were chasing the Dodgers, they're at the top, but then the Mets are a half game up of Arizona. It's okay, you don't need to.
Starting point is 00:36:21 I'm explaining it to you right now. Okay, the Mets are a half game up of Arizona. They're the two and three and then just a half game out behind Arizona. A game back at the Mets are the Braves. It's so close. Those teams playing each other, the Braves playing the Royals later. It's going to be amazing, but we'll get to the AL in a second. Back to you, Daniel. All right. Thank you, Daniel. What did you think? What did you think of that analysis, baseball last night,
Starting point is 00:36:48 and how excited are you in general for everything that's happening down the stretch here, David? That was a SportsCenter recap, if I ever heard one, using unlicensed clips. But it is exciting. Last week, there's something major going on in Atlanta right now. You know that hurricane you were talking about.
Starting point is 00:37:05 They're expecting nine inches of rain in Atlanta over the next day and a half. And what they're gonna have to do, if they can't, yes, you will need more than seven beach towels. I can promise you that at Truist Park. But if the games can't be played against the Mets and they end up mattering, there's gonna have to be a game on Monday where the Mets or Braves could be playing for their playoff lives
Starting point is 00:37:30 And MLB has been trying to avoid those Monday games to give teams an off day before the playoffs and they may have no choice Izzy I saw a story yesterday that made me think of David Sampson and how much he would have delighted in doing this. Detroit Tiger Rowdy Talez was four at bats from a $200,000. Hire it. $400,000 bonus, thank you. I'm sorry, a $200,000 bonus. He was four at bats from it,
Starting point is 00:37:59 and then next thing you know, they bench him. They say he's not gonna get to. They DFA'd him, he's not even on the team anymore. Dan, you weren't even close. Get outta here. Even if everyone gets injured, you're not getting in this game, you're not on the team anymore, goodbye.
Starting point is 00:38:13 That's insane, that's kinda close. You're so screwed up to do to that guy. David, you ever do anything like that to anyone? It's the Pirates, he got designated, and it's plate appearance is not at bats. Other than that, I love the intro to the story Dan Yes, the Pirates are idiots. They should have done this two weeks ago You don't wait until you have four at bats. Of course, you're gonna save the 200 grand
Starting point is 00:38:35 Why wouldn't you but you can't make it look this obvious and then stick your manager in front of cameras and have them lie And say no no it had nothing to do with this. It was about getting minor leaguers playing time. What a bunch of horse hockey. There's going to be a grievance. The organization is doing that for $200,000. That's nothing. Boy, I'm glad you're not in charge of Metal Arcs finances. Yes. We are not a major league baseball organization. League Baseball Organization. I said we sorry about that. It's not we yet. No, 200 grand matters. Come on, Izzy. Get in the game. It's gross and you endorsing it is foul. When you sign a contract that has incentives, I would actually walk around with my in my briefcase that had every player
Starting point is 00:39:23 contract and every incentive level because we would track it after every game in terms of innings pitched or games finished. That's the responsible way that you have to handle it. And if the pirates were in the playoffs or then they wouldn't have done this, you pay the 200 grand. But knowing that your season's over, you absolutely need to save that money. David, it's not you knowing how this works that's uncomfortable about this, it's that you say this all with a smile on your face.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Yes, yeah. That's the part of this. Chris, I will explain the smile. The smile is that the stupidity of Pittsburgh makes us all look bad. That is the problem. But the way everybody operates their business, whether it's baseball or a media company,
Starting point is 00:40:03 is you do it responsibly. And so that is just, I'm not smiling, I'm smiling at the idiocy. But I'm reveling in the fact that you guys disagree. No, you were smiling and you were very much enjoying that an organization did this. I don't even understand why you would lie about the fact that you were smiling.
Starting point is 00:40:19 We all saw you smiling. Your joy. I'm trying to smile as much as possible. I'm trying to. Why? Okay. When people do bad things, when organizations do bad things
Starting point is 00:40:32 to save money to other people. No, no, not bad things, overtly bad things. David likes it when you keep it in secret, when you hold them back four games during the middle of the season so they don't know at the end. Four at bats. It's not even games, it's four at bats.
Starting point is 00:40:44 It's played appearances. It's not even at bats or games. That is unbelievably cheap though. David, you can't disagree with the fact, even though we got all the facts wrong, I got all the facts wrong. You can't disagree that that's uncommonly cheap to have become public. I, it would not have been public if he had been released two weeks ago.
Starting point is 00:41:05 It's only a story because it was four played appearances before the next threshold. It's just silly of them and they're going to pay the price for that. But no, when you sign a contract that has incentives in it, whether it's a TV appearance deal, let's say you do an appearance deal where at 10 appearances you make X dollars, but at 11 you make X plus a factor of 10. It's very likely that you're not going to make that 11th appearance. Let's go back out to Jeremy at the whiteboard to get yet more incredibly small handwriting. Despite the small handwriting, big plays being made across Major League Baseball. In the AL East, the Yankees and the Orioles last night,
Starting point is 00:41:46 Aaron Judge hits his 56 home run. Don't know if any of you care about that, but later in the game, the Yankees are down two. Juan Soto up to bat, runners on second and third with two outs, Aaron Judge sitting on deck, just having hit his 56 home run. Let's watch and see what happens on this play with Gleyber Torres on the bases. The 2-1.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Line drive, it's up base hit to right field. One run scores. They're going to hold up Torres. Soto's going to second. The throw is not in time. Now they have Torres hung up. He's in a run down. Rushman makes the throw to third and Torres is out to end the inning.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Could have had two runners in scoring position for the Yankees with Aaron Judge up down one. Instead, Gleyber Torres makes the base running mistake. He's thrown out and then the Orioles go on to win 5-3. They clinch a playoff spot. It's the first time in 27 years that they've clinched back to back postseason berths. And then there was this incredible sound in their postgame celebration. Did I hear that you went to see the great Gatsby last night? I did, I did. You know, the third understudy was going for Daisy. She was excellent Excellent show my stomach was killing me. I had a bazooka right before and
Starting point is 00:43:11 But I got through it Do you feel that the power of the third understudy for Daisy led you to this postseason? Clinching win. I don't know. Let's take a selfie though We just take it a selfie on the cows. I don't know what Colton Couser is doing there, but I love every single second of it. The energy's amazing. Maybe this will be the thing
Starting point is 00:43:34 that helps the Orioles get back going. What's a Pazuki? Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. Buddy, buddy, hold on. You guys need to know what a Pazuki is. You guys don't know? Billy, please, like this is one of the greatest inventions
Starting point is 00:43:44 we've ever had. A pizookie is a baked skillet cookie that you put ice cream on top of and then you eat it throughout. Oh, it's like a pizza cookie. It's a pizza cookie. Put it on the poll, please, Juju at Levitard Show. Do you know what a pizookie is?
Starting point is 00:43:59 You were saying, Jeremy. No, I was gonna say we can cover the rest of the American League in the wild card, but I think we should get back to David for a minute We can come back to me and I can let you guys know what's going on there shout out to third understudy the Orioles They're gonna be good for a long time. That was a clean baseball game They have not been very good over the last six weeks or so. They've just been over the Rays not playing Yes, I missed the Rays game. I've checked out on the Rays now and I'm enjoying Orioles baseball
Starting point is 00:44:24 David the Yankees. I mean those are two incredible seasons they're getting from Soto and Judge, but I believe the Orioles are every bit as good as they are. The Orioles, shout out to Freddie Gonzalez and Brandon Hyde, two Marlins guys who are the manager and bench coach over in Baltimore. They're doing it, they tanked and they lost and they hit on their draft picks and now they're enjoying an guys who are the manager and bench coach over in Baltimore. They're doing it. They tanked and they lost and they hit on their draft picks and now they're enjoying an open window of being competitive. They have a new owner. A lot of questions will be asked about what money will be spent and when their trade deadline pickups were not great, including the former
Starting point is 00:44:59 Marlin pitcher, Trevor Rogers, who's been terrible for the orioles and was actually sent down in a short series what i take the orioles pitching staff over the yankees i would it but if so and judge are hot and then you have stand in that lineup the yankees have a chance to win the pennant but remember what happened at the dodgers last year they got swept out of the playoffs when uh... freeman and bats had a bad series and that could happen with Soto and Judge and that'd be the end of the Yankees. What is the movie you're reviewing for us this week?
Starting point is 00:45:30 Can we talk about Ellen DeGeneres, please? She just dropped a special on Netflix and it just dropped, I think, in the last couple days called For Your Approval. And it's her big comeback after being canceled. Her show was canceled. Remember everything that happened on set, and she's pretty deadpan in her humor.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And then about a half hour in or 20 minutes in, she just brings up, so hey, I'm back. And I was canceled because I'm mean. And she starts going through all these things, but it's such a silly concept to say you've been kicked out of show business when you're on Netflix. So I found it to be a little disingenuous. I found it not to be all that funny.
Starting point is 00:46:11 She's got some amount of self-deprecation that's cute, but other than that, it's a straight pass. I wanted to ask you what you make of what Netflix is doing. They're now in negotiations for a live Hot Ones, which is going to be a big hit. And the Tom Brady roast, they're killing it in sports. The Tom Brady roast is the biggest comedy special that they've had this year. They got like five million more people than anything Chappelle is doing. What do you make of the moves that Netflix is making, David?
Starting point is 00:46:41 We talked about this a little on the Sporting class, the show that John Skipper and I do with Pablo Torre. It's very interesting. They're not spending too much money on rights. Now they've done some deals in wrestling and they're doing some live events and now they're going to have some games, the Christmas games with the NFL, but they're trying not to do huge rights deals. The cost of doing that roast, it's de minimis compared to what it is to
Starting point is 00:47:05 do a full slate of league games. And so what they're claiming is that they're so profitable in every part of their business that they can just sort of work sports in as an extra, as opposed to other streamers who are using sports as a loss leader, willing to overpay to get the content in order to drive traffic and get subs into the streamer. And this is what happens when you say the rich get richer. That's how Netflix can do this philosophy. I asked earlier in the show,
Starting point is 00:47:36 and we'll let you go on this note, I asked the group to check the internet and tell me which is the biggest company, Apple, Google, or Amazon. Which is the biggest company in America, David, do you know? I don't know where their stocks are now, but I would guess that it would be Amazon. But you just have to look at the number
Starting point is 00:47:52 of outstanding shares times the share price, or you can look up market cap of the company. It's a quick little Google, Jeremy, where you can GTS it and figure out who has the biggest market cap today. Been waiting for it for 45 minutes. Thank you, David. Yeah, that's a very simple one. Appreciate it. Thank you, David.
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