The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Speedwalker
Episode Date: August 1, 2024You think it's easy to compete in Olympic speedwalking? Chris Cote gives it a try as Jemele Hill talks about the clusterf-ck that was Donald Trump at the NABJ Convention. Aleksander Barkov celebrates ...in Finland with the Stanley Cup. Plus, ridiculous military spending. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Why are you listening to this show?
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast.
I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
That hasn't happened to you guys?
I've done it.
And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar.
I do not know why it is that Chris Cody has returned.
I wanted him speed walking and I insist that he be speed walking.
So just explain to the audience here, Chris, because for some reason,
you think yourself an accomplished speed walker.
You were watching the Olympic event.
You were telling us that it's not that hard to do,
that you just sort of jog with your upper body
and walk with your lower body,
and you think you can be an Olympic speed walker
of some sort.
You get the hips cooking.
And yeah, Dan, it's something I did back in high school when they had to run a mile. I'd be like, I'm not running. I'll do the speed walker of some sort. You get the hips cooking. And yeah, Dan, it's something I did back in high school
when they had to run a mile.
I'd be like, I'm not running.
I'll do the speed walk.
And I did it faster than most people running.
So it's something I've done many a time.
All right, so go outside and you can do this.
I'm still tired from doing it last segment.
Well, that's fine.
As punishment for the flying carcasses,
12 minutes of it and then you can return next segment.
I want you doing it throughout the Jermell Hill general hill segment i wanted as a picture in picture in the
lower half of our screen as we talk to jim l about important
journalistic and societal things uh...
jim l thank you for making the time for us
i really i desperately want to find the funny in yesterday but it's just it's
it's hard to do
uh... so let's let's just start.
You were not at the NABJ convention.
I assume you're a member of NABJ.
You didn't think it was a good idea for them to do this
or after having seen what it's become,
do you think it's a better idea
because of how he embarrassed himself?
I didn't think NABJ embarrassed itself.
Can I just say the speed walking is exquisite?
Cause I'm looking at his form.
I'm like, you know, not bad.
I'm not bad at all.
I mean, he's a little shaky, rounded and lovesick,
but that's okay.
Yes, I am a member of NABJ.
Been a member since 1992.
I actually joined when I was in high school.
So I've been with this organization a long time.
I was their journalist of the year in 2018.
And I have to say, I'll be totally candid then.
Initially, I was torn about whether or not
this was a good or a bad idea.
And the reason I was torn about it was because on one hand,
I certainly understand all the concerns.
Like you don't to platform people who lie as easily.
I mean, as, as Donald Trump does, he, he lies like most of us take in air, but
he's also running for president and he's the Republican nominee.
And in a couple of months, he could be president.
and he's the Republican nominee, and in a couple months, he could be president.
So I wondered if there was some level
of journalistic responsibility
to show people exactly who he is.
Because one thing I've discussed
with a lot of my friends in journalism,
a lot of us tend to hang out with each other.
We're into politics. We're up on what's happening.
We're highly informed about everything.
We assume everybody else is too. And I'm not, that's not to suggest. And at this point,
people haven't heard of Donald Trump. They've heard of him. A lot of them know how he is,
but there's also a swath of people who have never seen it. Right. And it's kind of like,
I mean, this is probably like, it's not the greatest analogy,
but I'm going to go ahead and go with it anyway. It's kind of like when we started having very
serious conversations about domestic violence. A lot of people know that domestic violence was
a huge problem in our society, but until they saw what it looked like on video and certainly now
that we're a video centered society, did they not get the seriousness of what was happening?
So I wondered if there was some responsibility
as journalists, like, no, you don't normalize the nonsense,
but at the same time, you have to show people
this is the nonsense so that they fully understand
what's at stake in the election.
So I was a little torn about it.
But as the details came out and as it was clear that frankly, NNBJ
leadership completely failed, they weren't transparent with their
membership. And on top of that, to find out that when it came to
Vice President Kamala Harris, that they weren't accommodating.
You know, today is the funeral of Representative Sheila Jackson-Lee, who
is somebody who's very well known,
very much has been a beacon for the black community.
And a lot of dignitaries are attending her funeral,
which is why Kamala Harris could not be there in person,
but she offered to do a Q&A virtually
and for NABJ to turn her down
in this particular election year,
I thought it made them look very poorly.
And of course I heard a lot of reports and just talking to people like Fox News has been
a major contributor, financial contributor at NABJ at this year's convention.
I know they have been past conventions, but certainly they have been a significant one
for this year.
So you start adding up one plus one equals two.
Then on top of that, you have the fact that Donald Trump
was allowed to pick somebody to be on this panel
that we saw yesterday.
My thinking is when somebody like him
who has no credibility in the black community at all,
despite all these numerous terrible media stories
about him gaining support, he doesn't have any,
he doesn't have that kind of support in the black community.
And certainly what he said about black journalists and black people in general, he doesn't deserve
any. Somebody like that does not deserve to call their own shots at the largest minority
journalist convention in the country, and for NAPJ to be the largest minority journalism
organization. So he doesn't deserve that. But I did wonder about
like, are we, should we do something in terms of showing people exactly what this man is about?
But seeing how that interview unfolded and everything that's coming out since,
this was not a win for Donald Trump. This was not a win for Donald Trump, but this was a much bigger
loss for NABJ given how everything unfolded and certainly with how the membership
feels about what they did.
Because Donald Trump will be long gone.
He may not even be president, but your membership, the soul of your
organization, they're going to be there.
And that's who you should heed and take listen to.
And a vast majority of the membership was against this even happening.
Do you believe the NABJ membership will vote out leadership come election time?
I do.
I mean, I don't think this is something that is going away.
I mean, there were numerous calls by the membership for the current leadership to step down.
You know, the president of NABJ, Ken Lemon, the executive director, like a lot of people
thought that it was that the only way this can somehow be rectified is if they lose their
position in NABJ. And I can't say I blame them for feeling that way. And look, I realize that,
you know, a lot of people are talking about that interview. And if the idea was to get,
for lack of a better word, clickbait for the
convention to be talked about, they certainly achieved that.
But to lose the respect of your membership as leaders, that is the worst
thing that could possibly happen.
And it compromises your ability to lead going forward.
Let me ask you in the diminished state of journalism, Jamel, at least diminished,
at least in part because he personally has taken a hatchet to it by just saying fake
news and rallying the American people around that as a platform. Doesn't it pass for journalism
what they tried to do? Like the execution of what they attempted coming out of the gate with facts asking him
difficult questions. I thought journalism in its diluted state was done and people were shown in
the light how Donald Trump reacts to questioning that's difficult and also saw his disdain about
being questioned by black women, particularly.
Well, that's why I said it wasn't a win for him at all.
And you know, the thing is, it's one thing when you show, uh, slips of Donald Trump at
one of his rallies and he didn't sound any different at any BJ than he sounds on a daily
basis.
The difference is the crowd and the difference is the type of questions being asked.
At a rally, he's just able to just go and riff and go unfiltered and you got people cheering.
And while if you pay attention to what he's saying, it's certainly horrendous, but I think it's
different based off the environment and the setting. And to your point, Dan, in this setting,
being questioned by black women, many of which he has insulted. Hello, me being one, right?
And also April Ryan, who is a black political journalist,
also a former journalists of the year, just like me,
Abby Phillip, Yamiche Alcindor.
Like there's a long list of black women journalists
that he has said very insulting things about.
And I did find it valuable that the very first question
he was asked at the gate was to account for that,
account for what he said about black people in general.
And it was a simple question, a valid,
a legitimate question to your point about
was journalism actually being done?
And to which I say yes, which was,
you want black people to trust you
to be leader of this country when you have denigrated
the community, you have denigrated some of the most
prominent members of the community,
and generally talk to black people with such a low disdain.
Why the hell would we want to as leaders?
Like sell us on why we should ever think that somebody
like you
is fit to lead not just America, but our community in particular that is facing very specific,
very real, you know, disproportionate problems. And you see how he reacted, which is again,
normal for him. But I think for a lot of people who were watching, they were just, I think
they were jarred. And at least from what I heard back from people who were watching, they were just, I think they were jarred, at least from what I heard back from people who were there.
Even the journalists who have seen this song and dance before, but never been in the room
when it's happened, even they were jarred by seeing just what a buffoon this man is
and how even in that setting, he didn't even have the common sense and the decorum to tone
down how he normally talks. I'm glad he didn't because he is who he is and we can't say he's misled anybody in any sense.
He has shown exactly who he is and if people can't see the difference between these two
candidates, I don't know what to tell you, but that was certainly on display yesterday. I mean,
there was, even though there you said in the beginning, it's
hard to find some humor in it. But there were just some moments where, you know,
you almost did have to chuckle and amusement like this is a shit show. What
is going on?
Chris Cody, you're gonna need to keep it moving. You're not doing the punishment
correctly. Your form has gone to hell. Roy, what do you have for Jamel?
Jamel, how would you
judge the performance of the panelists um you know I thought overall they did a
okay job and people have to remember to do that apparently pulled early and
probably because his team saw the direction I felt the direction this was
going and it was not going well in any regard.
You know, as I said a few moments ago, I had some serious questions about Paris
Faulkner being part of the panel because she's a very Trump-friendly journalist.
And you know, just her network in general, we know how they treated Trump.
And part of the reason why he's in this position is because they have co-signed a lot of his lies.
They lied to their own viewers.
That's why they're paying out nearly a billion dollars.
But I thought there were a lot more important questions that certainly could have been asked.
But I'll give Rachel Scott in particular, I believe that's her name and I apologize
if that's wrong.
It is.
Yes, it is.
Okay, the ABC news correspondent.
I thought she was excellent. on the ABC news correspondent.
I thought she was excellent,
like placed in a difficult position
with a man that is insulting you right there in your face.
Impossible spot.
Impossible, but I thought she really handled herself
extremely well, but a lot of the questions
that people wanted him to account for,
I thought were generally asked.
And the other young lady, I thought she did a good job
particularly in bringing up Sanya Massey and her unfortunate murder. Let's play the sound for Jamel
that I believe is the most seismic of the sound to come from the entire thing. I was surprised by how
casually flippant this particular thing was said. She was always of Indian heritage and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't
know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now
she wants to be known as black. So I don't know is she Indian or is she black?
She is always identified as a black. I respect either one. I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't
because she was Indian all the way.
And then all of a sudden she made a turn and she went,
she became a black person.
I mean, Dan, do you know how racist you have to be
to sit there in the company of thousands of black journalists
as a white man and tell black
people who deserves to get called black. Now that's what he's saying publicly. What do
you think he, what do you think his conversations about Kamala Harris or any black people, not
named Ben Carson probably, are like in private? And that, again, to your point earlier, I think if there's value, and I put air quotes
around value and what happened, it's so that people can see, again, this is who you're
dealing with.
This is who you are saying deserves the mantle of being the president of this country.
And it's so funny, though, there, because he positioned that as if there was some advantage to her
telling people that she's black.
And by the way, Kamala Harris, just so everybody knows, have always claimed to be black.
She's claimed both her black heritage and her Indian heritage.
The woman went to Howard and she's an AKA.
She wasn't trying to hide and run from being black.
All right?
Those are two of the blackest things you could ever do. Be an AKA and go to Howard. All right.
If she wanted to avoid this whole black thing, she ain't going to Howard. All right.
It's a poor job of hiding.
You know what I'm saying? I'm just like, no, she wouldn't be there if she was trying to distance
herself from that part of her lineage. And what's hilarious is him trying to position this as if her blackness became
like some calling card for her to be able to rise politically or even to be in the position that
she's in. And it's just part of the overall mentality that him and people like him are trying
to sell to the American people is that, you know, black people have all these advantages
and look at them, they're using it politically.
Like there's never been a black woman
who's been in her position politically.
She's the first black woman to be vice president.
If it was such a advantage
as Donald Trump is trying to sell people on,
why haven't there been a litany of black women
who have been vice president?
Or why hasn't there already been a black woman
who is president of the United States? So clearly it is not the advantage that he would like to sell.
But you can already see what his agenda is, what his strategy is, is that he is going to him and
his surrogates and even his vice president, who by the way that was that was a funny part. Every
time they brought up JD Vance,
you would have thought that Donald Trump
had never met that man.
I was like, he just picked him for VP?
He was like, oh, oh no.
His entire attitude was like,
oh, I don't know him like that.
Like, oh no, no, I don't feel the way he does.
I was like, JD Vance is somewhere like,
I mean, come on, man, you just picked me for vice president.
And I wonder how he feels being married to an Indian woman.
Yes, this is the person that you've attached yourself to.
So it just kind of shows you again, just a clown
and the level of racism that he is so easily sinks to
is why I don't know anyone would ever doubt,
what his real integrity of what his character character
what it stands for me the entire time this is supposed to be if you're getting
that support among black people this is supposed that you claim to be gaining
this was supposed to be your time to give them a message about what you have
to offer them as their president and the only thing to offer them is racism and
bigotry
disease is so much time in that conversation
making sure
that he told
black people that migrants and undocumented workers were stealing their jobs.
And again, funny but not funny, when he suggested that migrants were crossing the borders to
steal journalism jobs, I was like, oh, this is a new one.
I did not realize that the people crossing the border were sitting up here trying to
be journalists, that they're trying to take our jobs. And so when he was asked about a black job and he was like, any
job, I was like, oh, so they're coming over here because they're trying to work for a
local newspaper and get paid maybe $40,000. Okay, that's the job they're signing up for.
That's what they're running to the border for is to become journalists. Like it was really
the at times I was watching Dan and as many rallies as I've seen, I just could not believe
that this was somebody who actually is running for president and has a chance of winning
it. I keep reminding myself and I remind other people, remember, it's Joe Biden that was
forced out of the race for being unfit, not Donald Trump.
Well, one, in this country's history, there have been examples of when black people became
politicians, white people came in and burned down cities.
And two, they said Kamala hates Jewish people.
I guess they haven't really checked out who her husband is.
I would say, did they not check, did they not know about the second gentleman? Kamala hates Jewish people. I guess they haven't really checked out who her husband is.
I would say, did they not check,
or did they not know about the second gentleman?
Okay.
I mean, it's unfortunate that like we've gotten
to this point in the political discourse,
but you know, I'm hoping that this will be another,
this election will be another,
this election will be another referendum on what we don't want.
Because the last three elections,
we literally had to fight for the soul of this country.
And this is another one where it's being challenged
and tested.
And it's just certain things that just as Americans
that we should say, no, we're not standing for that.
And Donald Trump is that person. this is going to be something that
everybody has to be united like
weekend
we can tolerate we can have a lot of things and there's a lot of problems in
this country for sure
can have that that's not helping
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it's jermell hill jermell good catching up with you are you'll be happy to know
that this segment went so long,
Jermell, that I heard through the walls,
Chris Cody yell, oh, for the love of God,
because he's getting very tired out there.
I see that he stopped.
Like what?
Yeah, unacceptable.
How are you supposed to, that is very unacceptable.
Where's your competitive instinct, Chris?
Man, this is sad, man.
That's pathetic.
It is pathetic.
Thank you, Jermell. All right It is pathetic. Thank you, Jamal.
All right. Take care.
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Don LeBattard, are the stakes that high
that if Angel Reese loses to Kailin Clark,
you need to start over again as a race?
Stugats!
I don't know that we have to necessarily start over,
but it might have to be,
it will be a black people's meeting, an important one that will be called the next day, where it might have to be, it will be a black people's meeting,
an important one that will be called the next day,
where we might have to put some things on the agenda
and get it off the table.
This is the Don LeBattar Show with the StuGards.
I do not know about the rest of you.
I am very bad at math.
There are any number of things that happen in
mathematics that confuse me and so there's a story in front of me that I
simply do not understand, which is that the Armed Services, a report that the
Armed Services wants a six million dollar refund from the Rock and the UFL.
They paid them eleven million dollars so I don't know what they got for the five million dollar refund from the Rock and the UFL.
They paid them 11 million dollars.
So I don't know what they got for the five million,
but they're asking for a six million dollar refund
because not only did they not get any new recruits
from the advertising that they were doing
with the Rock and the UFL,
but they also somehow lost 38 recruits. And that part
I'm simply not understanding. I don't... You're not alone in that Dan. I'm really trying to
wrap my head around how they land on the number of people that decided, you know, I
was enlisted, but this partnership between the US Army and the UFL, it just
doesn't sit right with me, and I'm now out.
I was willing to die for my country, but not now.
No, not after Birmingham Stallions
versus St. Louis Battle Hawks.
I am out on that because I just can't get
with this San Antonio Brahm's game.
I don't understand how this happens
and it seems as though both parties
are trying to avoid litigation.
I read something on military.com about this
and I was just made more interested in,
you know, there's been a couple of high profile,
bad marketing ideas by the US Armed Forces.
In fact, it was like the people
that kind of forced the NFL's hand
when it was exposed how much money
the Armed Forces were giving the NFL just for.
It was $5 million that they were shamed into giving back.
The NFL was shamed into giving it back.
For patriotic displays.
Yes, for Sundays to have America celebrated
and the American military celebrated,
they were paying $5 million for that.
So like the articles that I've been reading
keep citing a National Guard advertisement
that they did with NASCAR as like the barometer
for bad deals by armed forces in sports.
But it seems no matter how bad,
there doesn't really appear to be a partnership
that's been working
for the armed forces in sports,
but that hasn't stopped them
from continuing to go to the well.
Now, I understand the UFL,
and I understand targeting someone
that's watching the Brahmas on a Friday night, maybe,
especially with what the TV ratings suggest.
I just, once again, am puzzled at
who was in charge of doing the
headcount on who was there because of the UFL and how they landed on its minus
38 people that are here because of the UFL. Well part of the article I read said
in regards to the amount of money they want back now the Army expected The Rock
who's a co-owner of the league,
to tout the army in five social media posts. He has almost 400 million followers, so they
were valued at one million each. But according to the report, he didn't fulfill his end
of the deal and made only two army-related posts, including none since April.
So do you think like seven people that were enlisted were like, where's this tweet? I'm
out.
How much easy money are you making
if you can just not do those posts
when you get paid that much for those posts
because you just have that?
Did you say 400 million followers
is what The Rock has on all his?
Well, 396.
38 fewer recruits for the US Army.
I do understand going after the demo of sports fans
in order to try and recruit,
you're gonna get a lot of young testosterone-filled males.
Chris, are you okay?
Cramping, my ass is on fire right now.
Whoa. What is happening with you? I can't Cramping, my ass is on fire right now. Whoa.
What is happening with you?
I can't feel the back of my ass,
like my legs, my thighs, I just can't feel it.
From power walking.
It's all numb.
I feel like I just got an epidural.
From power walking.
Yeah.
Then you wouldn't be able to feel anything.
The longest, I just said I can't feel it.
Can't feel anything below my hips.
Got it.
That was the longest segment I've ever, like, wrap it up.
It was long.
Jesus.
It did run long.
And it ran long, and you walked short.
Like, you didn't even finish it.
You were out there.
I saw at one point, I looked up, and you were dancing.
Were you flamenco dancing at one point?
At some point, I was just like, I'm
going to work in a salsa here.
Because it's kind of like the same I learned. It's of similar the salsa and speedwalk the hips a lot of him
Let's get something straight is your ass on fire or can you not feel your ass? Where is your ass right now?
Yeah, I can't feel it that in I heard it, but I didn't feel it
I understand what the US Army is going for because there have been several times where I've been watching Houston roughnecks versus
Arlington renegades wondering aloud what am I
doing with my life? I would love to know from you guys because military spending
is famously ridiculous and excessive. In fact, I would say that there is no
example that I can give you of things being overpriced that is better
than the American military reportedly paying $800
for a toilet seat or whatever.
Can you guys find me the most ridiculous examples
of military spending?
I imagine we're gonna get a lot of things back
that are better than the Marlins payroll.
What, I think I went low on toilet seat like I have I famously associate the
military with overpaying for toilets because of a scandal I don't know how
many years ago where I was reading about the military and I didn't understand
the basic math and basic economics of how it is that our country could spend so much on military spending and have it be that inefficient
because it's famously inefficient spending and I don't feel like the armed services would need the
UFL in order like I don't even understand how you get in a marketing meeting where you say here's
what we're gonna do we're gonna go after the UFL and the Rock because the Rock has a bigger following than
we do.
Because the Rock has more followers than we do.
And this is bad publicity for the Rock.
And we know what happened the last time there was bad publicity for the Rock.
We got a banger of a storyline.
And with SummerSlam right around the corner, this is a perfect time for the Rock. We got a banger of a storyline and with SummerSlam right
around the corner this is a perfect time for The Rock to come back as a final
boss and set us up for the road to WrestleMania. Why would The Rock fail to
do his couple of military posts if you just got to do five for 11 million
dollars? Because you're just well I did read that article and it's it sounds like it's not an entirely buttoned up operation around Dwayne the
Rock Johnson.
But I would say that when you have that much money,
maybe social posts fall by the wayside.
I could see how that one falls through the cracks.
But if you're such a man who's interested in the love of the American people and
But if you're such a man who's interested in the love of the American people and specifically the easy love you can get by being someone who supports our servicemen and women.
And clearly with great sources.
Remember, he's the one that told us that Hussam bin Laden was dead.
That is correct.
He has access to some of our most trained assassins and did indeed end up breaking that news for
us.
Chris, what is the status of Tony, who we have sent out into South Florida to see if
he can find a fan who can name a single current Marlins player?
Before the show, we were talking about it and somebody actually had the audacity to say
We have to take Jake burger off the board as if Jake burger is too obvious
And so makes it makes the whole game too easy is Tony gonna have money
Is he gonna be able to give a cash prize to somebody who correctly guesses or gets the name of a Marlin?
He is going to ourbetters right now,
which is right across from what park?
Where there's gonna be a lot.
Tropical Park.
Right across from Tropical Park,
and we're gonna put a $20 bill in his hand
and just give it to the first person
that can name a Marlin.
So that'll be coming the 11 o'clock hour.
Arbetters, where Ron McGill is a Hall of Famer
that Greg Cody makes fun of their Hall of Fame.
He's going to the hot dog place.
Yes. That's a pretty the hot dog place. Yes.
That's a pretty good, you're gonna, put it on the poll please, Juju, at LeBittard Show.
Are you more likely to find a baseball fan at a hot dog place?
Core memory for me was going randomly to Arbettors in 1996 and purchasing a stuffed rat for the
Panthers Cup run.
I appreciate you bringing up the Panthers because I understand that we have some Barkov video and audio as the Panthers continue to party all over the
world with their beloved trophy. Does this video that we have here in which
Barkov is clearly being introduced by Chris Whittingham, does this video here
include the Stanley Cup or does it not include the Stanley Cup?
I don't believe the Stanley Cup is pictured but what you're seeing is an arena filled with
people from Barkov's hometown in Finland there to celebrate Barkov Day in this city, his day with
the Cup. In fact I think the Cup presently is in Finland and all the Finnish players have decided
to celebrate their day in their homeland.
And to say that Barkov got a hero's welcome is an understatement.
They prepared one hell of a banger of to feel for him and just the passion around the world for this
trophy, this particular trophy, it's so much bigger.
It is so much bigger everywhere outside of the United States.
He is also just like so, he's such an outlier for a captain.
We mentioned the sat during the cup run.
He is the first captain of a Stanley Cup winning team to have never been in a fight.
You remember from the Bruins series, Marshawn tried to have a go at him and Sasha just
laughed.
That is not his style.
He's not vocal and in previous years that was a
source of frustration for Panthers fans but he just decided to lead by example and by doing so
arguably a top two, three, perhaps maybe even the best two-way player in the world right now. He is
also really cute.
He's just adorable.
Well, he's one of those lead by example captains,
you know, he's not gonna give a rousing speech
in the locker room or anything like that.
He's gonna go out and do what he does.
Can we cover the history of South Florida
and talk a little bit about players who have done more
for their reputation on the spectrum of how it is that you felt about them and then they win and how it is that you end up feeling
about them because the championship does so much for the legacies of these people. Alonzo Mourning did more good for his reputation and legacy
coming off the bench during a championship run than he did starring at
the middle of everything he was doing for the Heat because when you give the
fans that kind of feel good, the memories that last a lifetime, the memories that
get passed down to your children children you get to completely reinvent yourself
I'm not kidding you when I tell you that all I knew of bar cough
for the first
Parts of his career with the Panthers and it was several years is you guys being frustrated with him
It's almost the only thing I associated with Barkov
that you and Chris and Roy would keep getting mad at him
for not being more.
Yeah, for not doing more when they got eliminated
and then he started doing way more
and the team got over the hump.
I think you went to the gold standard, which is Zo,
so much so that I still booze Oh in public settings because I'm still hurt by him leaving initially
But so also in 2006 you can make an argument was the more effective big man on a roster that featured Shaq I would say
Antoine Walker
Did a lot to save his reputation because Antoine Walker was despised and he came up with a couple
huge tippy-toe threes in 2006 and Brayden Looper had an improbable stop in the 03 World Series.
Nobody in that building trusted Brayden Looper at all, so much so that I'm not even saying the
vibes around Brayden Looper locally are still good because it
was bad he'd blow everything but there was that one time where he didn't wasn't
like the seventh inning a base it was it was basically him and Jeff Weaver and it
was like who's gonna blow this and it wasn't our guy I probably throw Alex
Gonzalez into that discussion as well because the the NLDS I mean he was
grounded into the double plays like it's real good one a lot of people didn't like Alex Gonzalez and then he hit one
of the biggest home runs if not the biggest home run in franchise history it
really is startling what championships will do in terms of making athletes a
totally different history giving them a totally different history than the one
that they had right even even if they if they're, when you just mentioned Braden Looper,
you're mentioning a bases loaded situation,
a seventh inning situation,
it wasn't even a ninth inning situation,
in a game that wasn't even game seven.
Like you're mentioning one moment for Braden Looper.
Yeah, huge Carl Povano start in that game.
I will say one player that earned nothing professionally,
because his heroics in college, he's a legend whenever he goes back to Kansas. in that game. I will say one player that earned nothing professionally because
his heroics in college, he's a legend whenever he goes back to Kansas, but the
attitude around Mario Chalmers is pretty much hilarious despite the
championships he's won, even within his own team where he gets laughed out of
rooms routinely. Where is Tony? Has he gotten to the hot dog stand yet? I expected him a half an hour ago to see if he could name or find somebody who can name a single Marlins player. What is that? great Gordon Hayward has announced his retirement. Salute to that brother and
his family. I hope he has a great post-career. Where was he last? Was it...
OKC. Wow, I'm learning that. Well, I don't... did he end up even playing for
them or was he just... He gave him some good veteran minutes but he was a mid-season trade and he
never really got into the the bulk the rotation, but he still had a phenomenal time with those gentlemen
in that locker room.
He totally ruined the 4th of July for me.
Do you remember the 4th of July?
We were held hostage by Gordon Hayward and his family as he pained over the decision.
I remember how much you criticized Pat Riley for swinging and missing on Gordon Hayward. It probably would've, look, Gordon,
the career didn't go so great by making the decision.
If it came over here, I think it would've worked out.
His career would've been fantastic.
I think that Celtic squad had what it took
to win a championship, but his ankle,
that was one of the most gruesome injuries
I'd ever seen live besides Kevin Ware in Louisville.
Man, he should be commended for even coming back.
You remember Wade's reaction to it as it happened?
Yeah, that's kind of like one of those where were you moments.
It was a very gruesome injury.
I want to get back to military spending right now.
Apparently, this is back from 2019.
The Department of Defense spent $9,34 dollars on a Wexford letter club chair
For no apparent reason and he also spent money on some lavish food
they spent two point three million dollars on crab and lobster tail respectively and
293 thousand two hundred and forty five dollars on steak which included ribeye topsoil wine and flank. I can beat that in
2014 the military spent $84 million
on erectile dysfunction medicine,
specifically $41 million on Viagra.
What kind of party are you throwing
with $2 million of crab and lobster?
In Viagra.
One that you need like $40 million of Viagra, brother.
Find me, if you don't mind the most expensive
toilet seat. I want to know what the most the military has spent on a toilet seat.
I saw something about a $10,000 toilet seat but the only source was Chuck
Grassley so I'm trying to confirm that right now. All right we'll get to the
bottom of our investigative report on the American military next.
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