The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Swifties Have Ruined Travis Kelce

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Domonique Foxworth is here to discuss his role as a staff writer on the new show, "American Sports Story: Aaron Hernandez." Dan does begin the conversation by complimenting Domonique, but he immediate...ly shifts the topic to bad offenses around the NFL, Trevor Lawrence's inconsistency, the Ravens losing inexplicable games, and the shocking Tua commentary from Antonio Pierce. Domonique sticks around for an extra segment to finally get the plug in for his new show and he explains what it was like to work on this show while delivering expert commentary, but the crew just wants to make fun of casting choices. Plus, the Saints dominance, Justin Jefferson's Garrett Wilson quote, Aaron Rodgers leading the Jets to victory, Baker Mayfield's continued great play, and Tom Brady's voice. Also, Dan very seriously takes out Taylor Swift and the Swifties for ruining one of the greatest players we've ever seen at the tight end position, Travis Kelce. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:11 New Jersey. Please drink responsibly. Welcome to the Big Sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys?
Starting point is 00:01:38 I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, fat face, and the habitual liar. I am made deeply happy as I see this face in his new studios at the top of his new business empire. Dominique Foxworth is a man that I admire for many different reasons. And a lot of people admire him because you know, great football player
Starting point is 00:02:00 and Harvard Business School and financial whiz who has had great power in the NFL. But one of the reasons that is at the very top for me is that he tackles the hardest things just because and so he decided to become a screenwriter. He decided just on the side that he was gonna do American sports story. Aaron Hernandez, he was a staff writer. It begins Tuesday at 10 p.m. Eastern on FX is the two-hour premiere he's also got the Dominique Foxworth show and you should know that that is absolutely worth listening to he's becoming uncomfortable with how much I'm
Starting point is 00:02:33 he's also a spectacular at receiving compliments yeah it's like some damn good looks as well he's a Hall of Famer at receiving compliments no one's enjoying this guys like the listeners aren't the viewers aren't I'm not you're not I mean, you had a football weekend, so well, it was kind of a shitty football professional weekend I wanted to ask you because one of the things that I find super interesting Always about sports is how bigger stronger faster and survival of the fittest evolves and clearly the defenses are better at making Patrick Mahomes and others throw for 150 yards. They're making offense harder to come by even though all the rules are set up to favor the
Starting point is 00:03:10 offense. What is happening, Dominique, there strategically that the games yesterday are seven field goals from the commanders and the Steelers are 2-0 with their backup quarterback on the road because Atlanta and Denver can't do anything against them. Yeah, I feel like we've been seeing this evolution kind of take its time and we finally got into a point where it's kind of all coming to a head, but I feel like the bodies, the rules changed.
Starting point is 00:03:31 And around the time I was in the league towards my time out, the rules started to change. The offenses started to get more sophisticated and now the defense has caught up. And I think the bodies on the defense have caught up in ways that have made it easier for teams to run the ball, but a lot more difficult for them to pass the ball. And the schemes have kind of caught up with a lot of the simulated pressures. And we saw Spags throwing some interesting stuff. Because if you
Starting point is 00:03:51 think about from the quarterback standpoint, the office and standpoint, when a blitz is coming, you're normally looking for like a topper, someone to replace this person in a blitz. So a safety will go over the top of the nickel if he's going to blitz. And Spags has done this thing where he does this really huge rotation. He's not the only one in Kansas City, but lots of teams have done this where they do this rotation in the secondary, where the blitz comes from somewhere where you don't expect it because there's no tails in it. And you see that with the simulated pressures where a quarterback will
Starting point is 00:04:18 feel like he's getting blitzed because they're sending a linebacker or a secondary player, but they're dropping other people out on the other side and end up with the quarterback and the offense reacting as if they're getting blitzed, but the defense still having seven or eight guys back in coverage. So I think it's just taking time. We've evolved to a point where the defense
Starting point is 00:04:37 has generated an advantage, and now the offense will at some point and we'll keep doing this. That's one of the best things about football. Am I wrong in thinking that the Jags shouldn't have given that money to Trevor Lawrence? He had 16 yards in the third quarter yesterday passing. But not in the third quarter.
Starting point is 00:04:53 I tuned into the game in the third quarter, and he had thrown for 16 total yards. Yeah, Trevor Lawrence, I wouldn't say that they shouldn't have given the money. Trevor Lawrence is an incredible talent, which is always enticing and really hard to find. And when you watch any of his games, you could clip out five to six plays. And it feels like even some of his worst games that just look like he's one of the best quarterbacks in football.
Starting point is 00:05:19 The problem is the consistency, the consistency throughout a game or throughout an entire season. He hasn't been able to establish that. And up until now, we've been kind of excusing it with coaching issues or receiver drops. But at a certain point, I think we all just have to accept that something's wrong there. And no matter who they bring into coach or the receivers that they bring in, maybe things will change with Brian Thomas because he's a really impressive young receiver. But it seems like Trevor Lawrence kind of does this hero ball thing as if
Starting point is 00:05:49 he's that Clemson at a certain point in the game, and he hasn't got to the point where he's comfortable with taking the incomplete pass and moving on and trying to play within structure and only being a hero when you have to be a hero. That's kind of what Josh Allen has struggled with. But the problem with comparing those two is Josh Allen's ceiling is so much higher than Trevor Lawrence has been that he can endure some of the negative plays
Starting point is 00:06:12 that Trevor Lawrence hasn't been able to. Dominique, how many of the other paid quarterbacks, you talk about consistency. The reason I get frustrated with Trevor Lawrence is because every game I'm watching four throws that every other quarterback in the league makes and he's missing them by a lot. And so you're talking about consistency.
Starting point is 00:06:29 I don't know how correctable that is because it's every game I'm seeing it. Yeah, and that's the thing is we end up focusing in highlighting those things and we kind of rewrite or revise our history of a specific game based on like who won or lost. And I think Trevor Lawrence has had been on the wrong side a lot of those games and he's had enough issues that you can point to him and say it's his
Starting point is 00:06:51 fault. But there have been enough problems like last year. I think they kind of set a record for number of drop touchdown passes. So I think that's the problem with Trevor Lawrence is it's the the evaluation has never been completely clear. And I think the final thing we can kind of establish is that he's not a top tier guy, even though he has the top tier ability. He's not that guy, but he's certainly not bad enough that if I was a Jaguars, I'd let him go and go back into the market. Yeah, that's in.
Starting point is 00:07:18 I'm just risk averse in that way. My reaction and I think Mike Ryan might have made fun of me a long time ago because I told the Browns to pay Baker Mayfield. So like I always think that if you got a quarterback, that's OK. You keep them because I'm scared of what you might end up with. If you're Chad Khan and Bill Belichick calls you today, what do you do, Dominique? You hang up the phone and get back to work. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:07:43 It's not time to bail already. And the bill Belichick bill Belichick's value to a team I don't know is about quarterback development. And I guess maybe you could argue that he could help Trevor Lawrence mature to a point where he doesn't have to make all these big plays. But Bill Belichick is a defensive mastermind. And I don't think it's time to move on. Are you going to do that with every team every week? That's the joke.
Starting point is 00:08:07 Dallas would be the strong pick today. Dallas, like that one makes a lot of sense. Maybe Baltimore. Cincinnati. Maybe Baltimore. Enough of John Harbaugh. Someone win with Omar Jackson. It hasn't been John Harbaugh.
Starting point is 00:08:21 I mean, you have a two-time heavy and Harbs has done nothing with Lamar Jackson. There are some numbers. Belichick would win 10 Super Bowls with that guy. There are some numbers with Baltimore. Baltimore loses more 10-point leads in the fourth quarter than any team in the league. Lamar, this is the first time they're 0-2 since 2015, Stu Gutt. This is the first time a reigning MVP is 0-2, excuse me, since it's been like 22 years since a reigning MVP started.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Oh, and two, that organization does not start. Oh, and two, that was a weird one to lose to the motor, the motorcycle gang of Minshew and Crosby. They lost to Minshew last year when he was a quarterback at a Colts. Another one like this is, it feels like a thing that shouldn't be for the Ravens, but they are the team that gives up these inexplicable late game losses. They did it multiple times last year. And you think that a team that runs the ball as well as they can in place
Starting point is 00:09:11 defense as well as they do should be able to put games away, but they've never been able to do that in recent Lamar Jackson history, which like it feels really inexplicable. The game yesterday was a lot about penalties and the interior of the Ravens offensive line not being able to hold up and Mar Jackson brings out his heroics his heroics every now and then but it wasn't enough in this game Stugats you're firing hardball. That is the first time in three years Lamar Jackson has lost back-to-back games It's the first time in three years Dominique are the Saints an actual good team? How do you explain the way the Cowboys lost on a day when Dak throws for almost 300 yards?
Starting point is 00:09:52 At home? Yeah, I think the explanation for the Cowboys' loss is kind of tied in with the explanation and the maturation of modern defenses. The Cowboys are built to be a team that is out there to stop the pass and they can't stop the run. And that's one of the like fundamental things about football. And I think more teams will start to kind of pivot towards that. We get smaller, more athletic bodies out there and they have some they've had some issues
Starting point is 00:10:20 with like the nose tackle position or the defensive tackle position. And they've tried to address them. But I think this team wants to be in place best with a lead and that's how they're built. And if you get a big lead out against them, they're going to kind of wither. And that's been consistently what's happened to them last year, how they lost the games they lost last year and how they ended their season
Starting point is 00:10:42 last year and their regular season game losses last year. In this game, it was the same situation. They get behind early. They have one outstanding playmaker in CD Lamb. They don't run the ball particularly well and they can't stop the other team from running the ball that well. You can't win in the NFL. Forget the NFL. You can't win in any sport. If you can't run the ball then you can't stop the run. League. Not any sport. I guess if you can't run the ball, you can probably do pretty well in basketball, right? So Stugats has just handed me a note that Adam Schefter is reporting that Pacheco is out on injured reserve, fibula at least four weeks. Yesterday during the game, and some of these guys came back, but there was literally a
Starting point is 00:11:20 three minute period, I'm not kidding, where this happened. Where everyone got hurt? Well, it's Justin Herbert's in a tent, Justin Jefferson is limping back to the locker room. Kittle. Nick Bosa is out and Kittle was just cramps. It is week two. And the Jets play three times in 11 days. I shouldn't laugh.
Starting point is 00:11:38 I shouldn't laugh. I'm on this Miami show where, I mean, injury is not a conversation that anybody was to have in Miami, particularly with that quarterback. But like, are we surprised like football and MMA? These are these are the sports where it's like, yeah, this is going to happen. And we've all come to grips with it. We've accepted it. It is what it is. We're going to go tell a bunch of personal stories next week about how much we love everybody. We want them to be healthy and we wish the game wasn't violent.
Starting point is 00:12:04 But we're going to watch this is all over again next week. Well, I love everybody and we want them to be healthy and we wish the game wasn't violent. But we're going to watch this all over again next weekend. Well, I have a theory here I want to run by you, Don, because I really haven't seen the outpouring that I saw for Tua from former players or a current coach before. And my theory is that the way that Tua is being concussed has the feeling of a helpless infant in it when you look at what is happening with his hands and so you get Antonio Pierce now again he coaches a motorcycle gang a historic motorcycle gang Crosby I mean that human being would be scary anywhere in the earth he were roaming okay and here's Antonio Pierce saying unbelievably I
Starting point is 00:12:48 thought a very tough football player yet to it needs to retire now. I'll be honest on some retire it's not worth it. It's not worth to play the game. I have witnessed anything like I've seen this happen to him 3 times. Scary you see right away the players faces on the field. You can see the sense of urgency from everybody to get to a help.
Starting point is 00:13:11 I just think at some point, he's gonna live long and he's gonna play football. Take care of your family. Stunned, I was really stunned to hear an active coach say that Dom, it's not something I've seen before. Yeah, it's pretty shocking. And it's a lot easier to say that when your livelihood is not something I've seen before. Yeah, it's pretty shocking. And he it's a lot easier to say that when your livelihood is not tied up in it. I'm sure Mike McDaniel is probably listening to that like, man, mind your business. I need that quarterback.
Starting point is 00:13:35 But I do think that it's the shocking part. And I think the one of the more difficult things for me when I hear these conversations is we actually don't know if it's the like major concussion hits or just the like the accumulation of like sub concussive episodes that leads to the long term like health impact. So while the two stuff is shocking and it's obviously not healthy for him, there are a lot of other players who are doing things every weekend that are just less egregious that particularly on the offensive line where every offensive defensive line every single
Starting point is 00:14:12 play they're banging heads and like it's going to take a toll on them through the course of their careers and there are I guess we have better ways to identify the issues that players have had and we've taken measures to adjust the game and adjust the practices to try to help out the long-term prospects for all of the players' health. But we won't know about how this is working for 10, 20, 30 years to see the impact on those players. So, I mean, obviously the reaction for everyone is
Starting point is 00:14:41 to be as cautious as possible with someone else's life and career, but we're not in that situation. We're not that player, we're not that person. But how do you feel about the instant admonishing that he should retire from people who really have no solid opinion? They're not-
Starting point is 00:14:59 You've got strong opinions on this. I can feel the indignance rising up in you. Well, his opinion is people should stop giving their opinion on whether or not a man should retire stop telling Greg Cody's beloved quarterback and the only hope he's had at the position in 25 years to retire he's a homer I would say he wants him to keep playing I would say this on behalf of any concussed quarterback in the entire league shut the bleep up and let the man make his own decision about his own career and future.
Starting point is 00:15:25 Let Tua and his family and his trusted doctors in a room make that decision. Another NFL coach should not be speaking about what another team's quarterback should or shouldn't do with his life. I'm just curious how you feel about that. I thought it was awful of Antonio Pierce to go on the record saying another team's quarterback should retire. Just unspeakably bad. Yeah, I don't love one team's coach speaking on another team's quarterback, but I think
Starting point is 00:15:57 we are going to speculate. It's going to happen. And no one is actually going to force the hand of Tua. Yeah, people are going to say that he should retire. I don't have a problem with that. If that's what you think you're doing, if you think that you're trying to protect someone, I don't have a problem with that.
Starting point is 00:16:10 No one's actually stopping him from making a decision. The question that pops up in my head when he had another one of these big prime time, like isolated and ugly concussions was what is the league going to do? Like, are they going to make a call? Are they going to step in? Because the real fear, let's be honest,
Starting point is 00:16:30 I don't think anyone is actually super concerned about Tua's long-term prospects. Like, I think him and his family are concerned about it. I'm not sure that any of us on the outside, I think we say we are, but our behavior has suggested that we aren't actually considering what we know about this game and other players. However,
Starting point is 00:16:51 Oh, you're just saying liability. You're just talking about liability now. Yeah, I mean, not even liability as much as it is what happens on the field. I think that is the thing that we all want to avoid, whether we're being completely honest about it or not. I don't think all of us are worried about how Tua is going to feel 30 years from now. I think more of us are worried about
Starting point is 00:17:13 what's going to happen on the field if this keeps happening to him on the field. Like, I think that's what scares us more than anything else, because a slow deterioration into some sort of CT effects it's not I mean it's proven to us that that's not something that's gonna get an actual reaction out of us something like on the field would happen with Damar Hamlin and what happened with to like that's what gets us upset that's what makes us uncomfortable when it's slammed in our face how how brutal this game can be I think what Greg's trying to get to
Starting point is 00:17:46 and Dominique is tiptoeing around is they are afraid of what's gonna happen on the field when this team gets rolling. They have Odell who hasn't played yet. They finally have Tua with a contract. They have John who Smith now in the mix. They're afraid of the Dolphins and Tua getting things going so they're trying to force him out of the league
Starting point is 00:18:03 and it's despicable, right Greg? I love Billy. Billy's Billy. Thank you for the support. Dominic Foxworth has, as I mentioned, American sports story, Aaron Hernandez. It is streaming on Hulu, new episodes every Tuesday. What are you making faces for?
Starting point is 00:18:19 I mean, that's why I was here. Here to promote the show. Now I worked so hard on it, you pretend like you were proud of it, and then you started talking about football. And we didn't ask you a hard on you pretend like you're proud of it. And then you started talking about a single question about it. Yeah, it's messed up. It's a little early for murder though. All right. You know what, Tom, we're gonna stay there and we're gonna come back and talk about murder with you on a Monday morning. We're gonna come back. You're coming back next.
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Starting point is 00:19:46 Oh, he's on fire. Joseph. Joseph. He called Connor McDavid overrated before the show. What the hell was that, Greg? I love it. Stugats. Roy, let me explain it to you. You know more about hockey than I do. And this is coming from a guy that's watched Connor play six times. If that.
Starting point is 00:20:02 This is the Don Lebatard show. With the Stugats. He's a super unusual person. Like usually you have success in the things that you have success in. And most people don't then decide, I'm going to take up writing for fun. But, uh, thank you. Uh, he has, uh, yes, Stugats has also done that. Stugatsbook.com is where you go if you want the Stugats book. But Dominique Foxworth has this new show. Why and how were you lured to it?
Starting point is 00:20:31 Because you didn't begin as a staff writer, right? Originally, they were just talking to you because they wanted your football expertise as a consultant, right? Right, no, I had the, I've always liked writing, as I've told you before, my rookie year in the league, I wrote a weekly journal for the Denver Post. And when I retired, like it was,
Starting point is 00:20:48 I think a lot of us have these kind of secret aspirations that are really kind of grandiose. And I wanted to be a screenwriter. And fortunately I got this opportunity. They called me and asked me if I wanted to be a consultant producer. And so after a week in the writer's room, I made enough contributions
Starting point is 00:21:08 that they promoted me to staff writer, which is a pretty bottom of the rung kind of job, but it was really fun experience and COVID stunk. But one of the good things of COVID was all the writer room were in Zoom. So I could be in an LA, in a New York writer's room without having to leave my house. was all the writer room were in Zoom, so I could be in an LA, in a New York writer's room without having to leave my house.
Starting point is 00:21:27 One of the things that can sink these things, no matter how good the writing, winning time worked, at least in part, because the casting was extraordinary. And the Clipper Show on Hulu didn't even get started because people were just immediately making fun of the casting. So I wanna show you some photos here from Instagram.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The actor Norbert Leo Butz plays Belichick. He is here with Gronk and Aaron Hernandez and Brady. I want for you to give us a grade on the casting here of all of these people because Aaron Hernandez looks kind of small. A plus, A plus, A plus. The grading on all of these people because Aaron Hernandez looks kind of small. A plus, a plus, a plus. The grading on all of that. Yeah, I mean, I think it's impossible. It's hard to find actors who are the size of NFL players.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Fortunately, I think Grunk's character, the guy who the actor who played Grunk, I think he is Grunk's body double in like commercials and stuff like that. So he's almost perfect. But I mean, it's difficult. I think when you getunk's body double in like commercials and stuff like that. So he's almost perfect. But I mean, it's difficult. I think when you get a chance to watch it, which David Sampson text me almost daily about how amazing it is and how much he enjoys it, you'll get pulled in. I think it's hard to do with just a photograph and make you feel great
Starting point is 00:22:40 about the casting, but you'll get pulled in and accept that these characters are different. But the story is very similar. Patrick Schwarzenegger, son of Arnold plays Tim Tebow. Your thoughts here on I'm just going to keep doing casting with you. Your thoughts here on Tebow. Perfection. So like the process of making a show like this. And one of the things that I learned is how heavily involved you are and how little control you have. So Stu Zickerman, the showrunner, was obviously involved from the beginning to the end of this process.
Starting point is 00:23:14 But we write the scripts and then we send them to Stu and then Stu reworks the scripts that he sends them back to us and we rewrite them. And before all of that, we spend months like thinking about themes and and events and ideas that we want to in like imbue into the script. We do all that. And that's just like the first quarter of the process. Then there's the casting, the directing, then the acting and all that stuff that goes into it. And by the time the final product is produced, it feels like what you had in your mind. But it's also very different from what you had in your mind but it's also very different from what you had in your mind. Let's see Wes Welker here. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's see what's in it. Let's Wes Welker. The flattering liar for Wes.
Starting point is 00:24:06 Let's see Vince Wilfork. Let's see Vince Wilfork here. What do you think of Vince Wilfork here? That looks more like Kendo Slikes. I think that that looks like a man who you would probably embarrass yourself in front of because you did not keep up with his
Starting point is 00:24:22 marital status. Let's see Urban Meyer here. I want to see urban Meyer here and get Dominique's, uh, this is a very young, this is, this is what urban Meyer thinks he looks like. Just like will Levitt thinks he's Josh Allen. This, this is what urban Meyer on the inside when he's in an Ohio state bar. That's you F urban Meyer. That is, that is supposed to be. It does look like urban Meyer from 20 years ago. Yeah. That's Kevin Burkhardt. Yeah. I haven't seen her in a while though.
Starting point is 00:24:47 It's weird. Wait till you watch it, watch it, and then come back with all these criticisms and critiques. Those are perfect cast. I mean, it's Hollywood. You think you want me to go find ugly people? No, we're going to find attractive versions of these athletes.
Starting point is 00:25:00 You're welcome. How many episodes we talking here? Yeah. I mean, just, just watch the first one. Just watch the first one. That's all I asked of you. Watch you're welcome. How many episodes we talking here? Yeah, I mean, just, just watch the first one. Just watch the first one. That's all I asked of you. Watch the first one, maybe the second one. Yeah, the first and second come out the same time.
Starting point is 00:25:11 Watch both of those. If you don't wanna watch it anymore, don't watch it. Billy's busy watching secret lives of Mormon wives. Mormon, yeah, well, that's a good one. There's no competition. I think those are different things. That's like a meal versus dessert. Like I don't want to replace that that feels like a dessert show But when you're when you want some substance something substantial give us a shot
Starting point is 00:25:32 If you like it keep watching if you don't I had nothing to do with it Did you write a cameo role for yourself? Good question. If not, why not? And if not, why not? Yeah, why not? That's what Cody would do. It's part of being in the writer's room. I mean, what are you doing? I mean, my goal was to be a writer, not to like parlay this into some sort of performance,
Starting point is 00:25:50 but also like I mentioned before, we do a lot of work, but the final decisions aren't up to me. I did try actually, I lobbied to get some cameos for Mina and Pablo, but that got vetoed. I was like, Pablo could be like a college professor or something like that, right? Yeah. I do like the idea of like a foreseen where they're like,
Starting point is 00:26:10 let's check in with Dominique Foxworth and see what he thinks of this Aaron Hernandez situation. And they just like cut to a clip where it's like an actor playing you, like talking to a reporter. I'd never played against Aaron Hernandez because I was definitely arguing for like some game. Let's fabricate because everything in the show is not like completely true.
Starting point is 00:26:27 It's supposed to be like close to like get the spirit of the events. Let's fabricate a little interception. Fabricate a little week to turnover. Throwing the Dominique Fox or for turn for a touchdown. Maybe two pick game. Did he do it? No, no one cares about what I want to do. Oh,
Starting point is 00:26:46 you're talking about that. I know you're talking about this. I already already twist there. I already sent that to awful announcing. You gotta wait and see. You gotta wait. I don't want to do your sport. I did a show with Pablo about this and Pablo is just on his show. He's just out here spoiled spoiling our show throughout the entire Pablo Tour, he finds out. American sports story, Aaron Hernandez. New episodes air every Tuesday, beginning this Tuesday, and stream on Hulu. Always nice seeing you, Dom.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Thank you for making the time, sir. Do you want to finish landing the plane now? I know you a little bit, so you're gonna, yeah, you're gonna deny me the pleasure of it as an act of defiance, but since you said you're a performer, if you can land the plane from here, I'd be impressed by however you did land the plane. I don't need to impress you.
Starting point is 00:27:32 I'm not here to perform for you, sir. Wow. You ruined it, you stepped on it. I was building up and I was getting people nice and low and low-limit to a sense of confidence and I had a big joke coming that no one's ever gonna see because you got bored and decided to steamroll me and take over the mic.
Starting point is 00:27:49 Maybe I'll keep talking until we go into the break. Maybe you can hard network out me in front of Cody. Maybe not. I mean, he's late leaving there. He won't know that we're not listening to him. Just let him keep talking there with a sound down so that nobody reacts to him. What were you guys more impressed by yesterday
Starting point is 00:28:09 in the first quarter? We've already said goodbye to you, Dominic. You can sit there for as long or as little as you want. In the first quarter yesterday, Aiden Hutchinson having three sacks in the first quarter the first 11 minutes, or Marvin Harrison having 119 yards in the first 11 minutes receiving or Marvin Harrison having 119 yards
Starting point is 00:28:25 in the first 11 minutes receiving after having four yards on one catch and one target last week? I would say Harrison with the first quarter, really first half that he had was. Hutchinson. Three sacks? I know Hutchinson's on pace for 40 plus sacks this season.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Hutchinson had that game in a vice. That was so dominant. Harrison still didn't look all that fast for Maserati. But that was impressive man. Marvin, Marvin, Marvin, did you guys watch my show last week? I told you that Marvin Harrison was going to have this game because I know football and guess what? He did it all in the first... It's a shame we had to let him go. How many shows does he want us to watch? The Dominique Foxworth show is among the many that he's doing these days. Your teen requested a ride, but this time not from you.
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Starting point is 00:30:02 This is the Don LeVatar Show with the Stugats. I don't think that you can say that a team has looked more impressive than the Saints. The stat that I'm about to give you, I thought was staggering. Their first 15 possessions of this season, the Saints scored on all of them. First 15 over two games, they got either a field goal or a touchdown. And Stugats, they have scored in their last three games,
Starting point is 00:30:41 47, 47, and 44. That hasn't been done since the undefeated Patriots and then some team in 1940. But that team of Randy Moss and Tom Brady was the one that scored like that. There were a handful of surprising things yesterday, obviously, the Raiders winning at Baltimore, and you had San Francisco losing at Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Tampa Bay beating the Lions. Yeah, big favorites losing at home. Tampa Bay beating the Lions. Big favorites losing at home but there was nothing more surprising than the way the Saints won. It's not that they won necessarily as a six-point dog, it's that they steamrolled a Dallas team that made Cleveland look totally inept. NFL law offenses we've talked about enough for two weeks. They're kind of confusing us a little bit but DraftKings Sportsbook put out an IG tile and it was really confusing to me.
Starting point is 00:31:29 And I'm wondering what you guys do with this. So far, Derek Carr is statistically the best passer in the league. Gardner Mintchew has the highest completion percentage. The longest touchdown of the season was thrown by Sam Darnold. Baker Mayfield is undefeated, just won at Detroit and is just behind Derek
Starting point is 00:31:46 Carr in terms of league passing. And Kyler Murray, another dude that someone wrote off, and he didn't write back, Kyler Murray just had a perfect passer rating game. So a lot of dudes that the NFL and its fan bases have kind of made up their minds about have really started this season hot. And Geno Smith is no longer one of those dudes because he was the one of the first to show us oh wait you can reinvent yourself like Sam Darnold even if you have multiple stops. You just have to leave the Jets. We will get to the Jets in a second Stugats because they have three games in 11 days like they
Starting point is 00:32:21 they now play on Thursday night that's not good for the human body obviously but I thought Justin Jefferson who had a 99 yard catch yesterday and the Vikings having the confidence to have Darnold throw from his own end zone and they don't care if Justin Jefferson is double-covered Jefferson was asked before the game because San Francisco and the Jets had played the week before if there was anything about how San Francisco played Garrett Wilson that would be instructive to him and he did his move our move of respectfully saying something disrespectful. Does watching how they defended Garrett Wilson help you at all as you prepare for this one? Yeah and no. I mean respectfully, I'm not Garrett Wilson
Starting point is 00:33:08 Totally different He's right That is as quick as you can be disrespectful after claiming at the top you were going to be disrespectful respectful that is that Respectfully, I'm not Garrett Wilson is a great way to be arrogant in a way that is cool instead of off-putting, because he just threw the respectfully at the top there. Right, knowing he was about to bring the disrespect. I love that, yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:36 How do you feel about your Jets, Dugats? Will Levis does think he's Josh Allen, correct? He thinks that he's had the two most disastrous turnovers of the entire season and you can't trust him at all but he's never gonna stop being confident. Did you watch Callahan coming up to him after that most recent mistake? What the F are we doing? Yeah. Well let's play the sound here of Callahan. I was just gonna ask God bless football's Stugatz to name the coach of the Tennessee Titans. Callahan. God bless football every Monday morning, every Friday morning. Billy Gill,
Starting point is 00:34:13 the fourth ranked international football insider. He was pretty funny afterward, after this game because we've gotten so used to one of the things that's happening. It's not just that defenses and athletes are evolving Stugat. It's also there has never been this much of a premium on don't turn the ball over. Like it's always been a thing, but never the way it is now. And so when you see something that is intergalactically stupid done by your quarterback, you're stunned by by it and so was the Titans coach. What did you say to Will on the bubble? I know you looked very upset on the soccer ball. I think the camera caught it pretty clear if I had to guess. So yeah I was upset it was Dom it was the same exact thing he did last week and he cost us points in the red zone
Starting point is 00:35:02 and that's that is what it is he's a grown-up, and he knows better and so I was really irritated We probably needed it these gala heads got right to it man Like I thought it wasn't gonna get better than it was dumb, but he's grown up That is something a rebellious team would do that is not something that an adult professional would do in a professional setting where we all respect the duke uh... the football is not something to be turned over your good as to are you
Starting point is 00:35:35 know guys in agreement with me both of you on the idea that the uh... not turning the ball over is such a premium now that we're doomed to 18 to 13 games. I don't know if we're doomed to it. I think not turning the ball over has always been important probably more important than it's ever been and it's why I thought Aaron Rodgers people are saying the Jets it felt like a loss after the game. Nah, it felt like a
Starting point is 00:36:01 win Aaron Rodgers did not turn the ball over and Aaron Rodgers took them down on a drive in the fourth quarter where most jet quarterbacks in the history of that organization can't get that done. Aaron Rodgers yesterday got it done on the road for the Jets who go home now for four straight home games and three of them are against bad teams. What Aaron did yesterday was he made big plays when he had to and he did not turn the ball over. That's what he did. I think the NFL has shown you over the last few years that you can do both as everyone took a page out of Aaron Rodgers playbook and said,
Starting point is 00:36:33 no, we can throw the ball downfield, have good impressive passing touchdown numbers, passing numbers and still limit turnovers. The names that I just rattled off are all guys reputed to be turnover guys. Minshew, Murray, Derek Carr, Baker Mayfield. I would like to see more teams taking risk and care less about turnovers quite frankly, because I think there's a lot of reward.
Starting point is 00:36:54 So we saw with Justin Jefferson, who might actually change Sam Darnold, that's a good way to help by just pushing the ball downfield. Are you guys opposed to what I'm saying that there were a whole lot of bad football games yesterday that I don't want to watch. Colts Packers, Jets Titans I don't really want to watch, Seahawks, Pats I know it's a close game not interested in thinking those teams are championship worthy, Giants commanders, Chargers, Panthers, Browns, Jags might have been interesting in a different incarnation that one was hard to watch. Steelers, Broncos, not interested. But a couple of enormous
Starting point is 00:37:30 upsets. So the most surprising from among these to you guys was which one? The way the Rams beat the Cardinals, the way the Saints beat the Cowboys, or the Bucks over the Lions, the Vikings over the 49ers. Chiefs, Chiefs Bengals gives you the punctuation to the day that makes you feel less gross at night, because I felt gross at the end of the night. You guys, the rest of you feel gross at the end of the weekend. Do you not when you're this slovenly about watching 40 hours of football? I always tell myself 72 hour fast begins Monday
Starting point is 00:38:05 after a football Sunday. Kicks in around four o'clock, right? Yeah. Yeah, the one o'clock game, just still feel alive, four o'clock, you're just hanging on for dear life. Well, yesterday was, what was it, a Deka box? 10 games in the one o'clock. Is that, it was too much, Chris?
Starting point is 00:38:21 Yeah, it was the busiest one o'clock window, according to Scott Hanson of the season. Even Scott was stressed out. Like, it was just too much, Chris? Yeah, it was the busiest one o'clock window, according to Scott Hanson of the season. Even Scott was stressed out. It was just too much. He was just like, there's this, there's that. You could feel him being stressed. Eight's enough. I don't need more than the Octobox.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Once we get to nine and 10, it's just too much. Put it on the poll at Levitore Show. Did Scott Hanson seem stressed out about the 10 games in the one o'clock window? Because I will say, he the 10 games in the one o'clock window? Because I will say he got to breathe in the four o'clock hour, but it was too slow and then he had to fill. Like he had a bunch of things. He wanted those games back.
Starting point is 00:38:52 They don't have commercials in the red zone. Which was the most surprising to you from among the results? Everything I gave you. How could it not be the Saints beating Dallas and the way the Saints beat the Dallas? Because I had the Raiders as being bad and Baltimore not being 0-2. That was the biggest dog of the weekend. It was a nine-point spread in that game.
Starting point is 00:39:13 That was the biggest surprise to me was the Ravens falling to 0-2. They should have beaten Kansas City. They lost literally by a toe, length of a toe. But to lose that game yesterday, and they were ahead much of the game, that was brutal. And I'm not just saying that because I picked the Ravens to cover and I'm really pissed off at that result. I'm picking something else.
Starting point is 00:39:31 I think you guys were bang on, but I'm just going to pick something else that also interested me in that it appears like Baker and the Bucks wasn't a fluke last year and it had all the makings of feeling like a fluke. And yet you're going to make this mistake. You're going to pay this guy big-time money they go to the place that they lost in the playoffs last year Detroit who I think the odds have is a second favorite inside that conference and despite Aiden Hutchinson being a demigod they navigate it and they win that game and they control it mostly I
Starting point is 00:40:01 wonder how this is gonna go over in Detroit with expectations. I don't know if you guys saw the end of the first half, but the Lions, you never see this in pro football. You see it in college some, but in pro football, they do not mismanage the clock in a way that stays in bounds without timeouts, and then all of a sudden at the end of the half, you can't get your field goal team on the field,
Starting point is 00:40:22 and you just lose the points because you get a holding penalty. You thought you get the penalty that cost you points and then obviously you lose by a margin so many of these games are close that's coaching that ends up being a little took responsibility for no and and and look it's a penalty it can happen to anybody but your team needs to not be getting a penalty when it runs out of timeouts in a way that cost them three points when there are suddenly expectations for the lions that i can say this to that have never existed before not not have an existed this century
Starting point is 00:40:55 that team has never had the expectations it has this year you know laughable it is to hear mike ryan say there's the second in the conference like that team has never been any good and yesterday they dump against a day they dump a game against a team that none of us think is championship worthy you can underestimate or overestimate the Bucs none of us think the Bucs are winning the Super Bowl I'm willing to listen now considering the performance they they just put up I think we also have to start asking ourselves was Tom Brady
Starting point is 00:41:24 holding this team back? Great question. How was Brady yesterday? I didn't hear. I saw the, he received a general praise for improving week over week. They said it was a pretty strong improvement. So I think week one what happened was
Starting point is 00:41:38 the bar was set so high because he's Tom Brady and it fell flat and then the bar came back down and Tom Brady exceeded it, right? I think one of the things that's working against him, and we touched on it a little bit last week, is his voice. Yeah, that's the biggest thing for me. Too high pitched. Yeah, I think it'll take us a minute for that voice
Starting point is 00:41:56 to be attached to what feels like a big game. Once you have him on important, meaningful moments, then you'll start saying, oh, he's on the call, it'll feel like a big game. Chris Fowler also kind of felt like this early on, where you just got used to a certain voice attached to big games, and it takes you a while, and you're probably a little too harsh and criticizing, and now you really can't imagine a big time
Starting point is 00:42:16 college football game without his voice attached to it. So, it's just a matter of time. Billy, God bless football today. Yeah, it's out now, check it out. Tell me what's on there, tell me what's worth hearing, cause you get the hottest and the freshest of Stugatz's. It's all worth hearing, yeah. Stugatz's fiery takes when he comes in here,
Starting point is 00:42:34 all fired up about everything that happened this week, and what are the highlights? Well, we have our winners and losers, as we do every week. I have my big lose bets, big boards, brought to you by at the end of the show. Lucy joins us, we play some Lucy or Goosey, we have some top five lists.
Starting point is 00:42:46 I also, and this wasn't a thing, this wasn't a segment, it was just a note kinda hidden in there. I have my eye on two different people. Yeah, it does. Yeah, it's not a segment, it was just, you know, in my notes I have here right in purple. Boom, I got my eye on this person, I got my eye on that person.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Yep, color-coded notes. What does that mean? Forgive me for my ignorance here, but, well, Jason. We're kissing an ongoing list. It's Jason Sanders,'s just in Tucker Jason Sanders you've had an eye on okay I'm sorry you've already revealed that on the show before one else you got the next thing he's gonna say is Travis Kelsey's the other one and then it's like why even listen I didn't say that well Well, respect your own embargo. Listen, I didn't give out the third one. I stopped short. Travis Kelsey, one catch for five yards.
Starting point is 00:43:27 When's it starting that everything he's done this off season is slowing him down? That will start. I think you just started it. You just did it. And I warned him. I warned him of this last year. I was telling my friend Travis Kelsey, this is what happens.
Starting point is 00:43:41 People like Dan LeBontard, they come out and say, Kelsey is focused on the wrong things it happens I can't believe you're too kind To partake in this engagement bait game and you really shouldn't be so nice Because you put that on people and that's your thought you think that Travis Kelsey needs to focus more on football I look into a camera and let's get some likes. Okay, I'll do it I'll do it for you, but I was genuinely asking the question of whether this was happening or not. But listen, I was just gonna time it I'm doing it for the camera.
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Starting point is 00:44:37 How did I do? Great question, fifth place, cash. Yes. I wish I was wearing a costume right now. Why? Cash. Yes. I wish I was wearing a costume right now. Why?
Starting point is 00:44:44 Taylor Swift and the Swifties have ruined Travis Kelce. He used to be one of the best tight ends in the history of the universe. And this season, because of all of the distractions involving commercials and fame and the Kelce's getting gorging on the gluttony of celebrity. Jason did the right thing in retiring. Travis continues to play but poorly because he's been wrecked by all the sugary fame around Taylor Swift.
Starting point is 00:45:14 Does that work Mike? I don't know. Priorities in order? I'm just worried about Dan the rest of the way. But also they may see through Dan's overt, really sad, desperate attempt for relevancy to grift off of her name. Billy, bad advice someone gave you. Tell the people what you whispered in my ear that I thought went out on air. Well, when you did that whole thing,
Starting point is 00:45:43 I just whispered into your I hate Taylor Swift to see if you'd say it, but you didn't. Yeah, and then you thought that I thought went out on air. Well, when you did that whole thing, I just whispered into your, I hate Taylor Swift, to see if you'd say it, but you didn't. Yeah, and then you thought that I said it. No, but then it was our little secret, but now you're telling everybody about our secret. Yes. Hey, y'all, it's Mike, and as you know, it is football season, the all-consuming football season.
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