The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: The Worst Picture of All-Time

Episode Date: February 16, 2024

We interrupt Lucy's friend date to ask her about Caitlin Clark after a record-breaking night and then discuss the upcoming showdown between Steph Curry and Sabrina Ionescu. Then, Nick Wright is here! ...First, he discusses what it was like around the Kansas City Chiefs parade as the shooting took place. Then, he brings us back to the joy he felt being right about Patrick Mahomes and his Chiefs, being beloved in Kansas City, the worst picture he's ever taken, and media rivalries. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to DraftKings Network. Welcome to the big sui presented by DraftKings. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants
Starting point is 00:00:29 just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys? I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. Lucy's not here today, and she said yesterday, because I wanted to celebrate with her,
Starting point is 00:00:48 the Caitlin Clark setting the scoring record, and she says she's not working today, and furthermore, because Lucy now says that there are b****s everywhere for her in the friendship bracket. Like, she can't get enough friends now that she's a little... Her words. Yeah, her words, that's her words.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Quote, just clarifying. I'm quoting her, yes. Yeah, her words. That's her words. Well, just clarifying quoting her Yes, yeah, just making sure it's it's raining is according to Lucy. Yes, because She she was looking for friends She did a PowerPoint seeking friends and now she's got a ton of friends in Las Vegas and elsewhere And she's on a friend date this morning and said she didn't have time for us to talk about the most exciting day of her sports life. Okay. You've guys have brought her up though. You've called her. She said she wasn't going to answer. This is very exciting. Okay. Is she on the way to her friend date? What is happening? Lucy, tell me where you are. What's happening right now?
Starting point is 00:01:37 My friend, Lisa is inside. She does not want to be on camera and I'm not going to do that to her. So I'm outside. She's watching my stuff. It was a normal morning until you called. Okay, but this is a date. This is a successful Friday. You right now are dating so much. There's so many friends that you now have Friday morning dates. Well, yes, I won't say so many friends. I would say one and a half, which is pretty good. That's way more than I had before. So I count Lisa's one. The half I would say is the bumble girl I met like two weeks ago. I just don't know if I'm going to reach out to her again. I liked her,
Starting point is 00:02:17 but I don't know if she's my forever pal. Okay. That's good to get that update, but I thought you had a number. You had like dozens of friends in Vegas. You were smoking cigarettes, you were crazed. Yes. Well, those were friends I already had, and they live in Los Angeles, and they don't live here, which I love them a lot, but they're not as useful when they don't live next to me.
Starting point is 00:02:35 We can't really hang out, you know? Okay, I'm sorry I interrupted your friend date, but can you just give us the best you got on Caitlin Clark? Well, let me just tell you this, Dan, she needed eight points last night. She got 49, 49 points. Not only did she break the NCAA scoring record all time, she broke the Iowa single game record and had a career high.
Starting point is 00:02:56 She's amazing. She's perfect. And the shot two and a half minutes in the game on a logo three, on a logo three. She's the best thing that's ever happened to me. They had a tribute video tour at the end. I sobbed, I cried. I'm so happy for her and she's gonna break the all time scoring record in like two games, three games.
Starting point is 00:03:11 Not to be this guy, but, and I understand logo three is impressive, but those logos are getting pretty big. They're getting bigger and bigger. Those logos keep getting bigger. You know what, Dan, you do it then. Go out, she's a logo three. Why would you say that, Dan? Probably could.
Starting point is 00:03:26 How could you? Probably could. Who would say such a thing? I am, I will tell anybody who will listen that the NBA 3 is a million miles away and nobody understands how far it is because those guys make it look like it's easy and the Logo 3 is a Logo 3 from anywhere, but it's indisputable that those logos are getting larger. Is a mitt rains jumping.
Starting point is 00:03:48 Do it. Do it Dan. Do it Dan. You're talking all this talk. Set the all time scoring record Dan. It's arenas right across the street. We're going to happen. Tell me more about last night for you emotionally.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Like where does it rank in terms of sports emotions? You're a crier. You cry on every college football field you ever are. I would say it was my favorite moment all time, not all time. I think Iowa beating South Carolina the final four last year was my favorite like fan moment is just like being an Iowa fan. But it was so special to just for her to do that in front of the home crowd, for her to do it the way she did with the logo free, like it was one of those like remarkable moments where I'm tweeting about it and all these people are responding, being like, my wife doesn't really love sports, my daughter doesn't really love sports, but they have asked to
Starting point is 00:04:35 watch every single Caitlyn Clark game and just understanding what she's done for the state of Iowa, for women's basketball. It has been so remarkable. It was so beautiful. I cried during the tribute video. That's what really got me. When I saw her family saying how proud of her she was, I was like, they're not as proud as me. So I feel what they're feeling.
Starting point is 00:04:52 It was so special. It really is nuts what a great shooter she is. She's spectacular. She's just crazy. It was a bomb by the way. I just saw her. It was a lot. I was just teasing, like of course.
Starting point is 00:05:04 You could never do that. No, I could. I could. And she made it look graceful. And it's like she's pulling up from there and you have to guard her from Gary. It's asinine. It's just asinine. I think one of the things that gets lost about Caitlin's game is like she is an insane
Starting point is 00:05:22 shooter anywhere on the court. You have to guard her, but she, but she moves the ball so well. It's something that you don't notice as well until you see it in person, but her teammates are constantly saying, I had no idea I was open. Caitlin saw things, like 10 steps ahead of what everything else was.
Starting point is 00:05:38 She is just so remarkable in just every facet of the game. And you know what was so great? Half time they were like, Caitlin, you broke the record. How do you feel? She said, it's cool. We need to defend better. And I said, that's my girl. I'm so proud of you. Get the win. We're just going to let Lucy say that she was more proud than Caitlin's parents. Cause I was, I think she was. It sounds like it was. They weren't crying. I was crying.
Starting point is 00:06:05 She's doubling down. She's not afraid. They weren't crying. I was crying. She's doubling down. She's not afraid. They weren't crying. She's not afraid of your criticism. All right. Go back and enjoy. Hold on. I have a question before she goes. So she did work. Is this now a business lunch that she can expense? Me? Oh, that's a great idea. Can I tell Lisa you're paying for breakfast? Sure. Sure. That's fine. Lucy, thank you for. Lisa Dan's paying for our breakfast. Lisa's still your purse. She said, uh, we already paid.
Starting point is 00:06:31 That's too bad. Oh, that's bad. No, get the receipt. Get the receipt. Yeah, ramp that. Your money, your move. See you later, Lucy. Happy for you.
Starting point is 00:06:40 And happy that, that friendships are blossoming. I was getting left and right. Thanks for calling during my friend date. It was just normal and not weird at all. Hey, if you also want to see a women's college basketball superstar firing away from the logo. I'm excited about this. But you don't have tickets.
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Starting point is 00:08:48 Got tickets to Shane Gills on game time. Of course you did. Where is he performing? I was trying to name names, but if we're doing that, shout out to idols. I love that album. Yeah. Is that the wicked, the story you haven't told that you went all excited? You're going to New York to see no no that was funny girl I'll save it. We were talking about it on mystery grade. I'll save it. You're gonna. Oh wow you're gonna embark It's really not a good story. It's too bad that we don't get the musical stories here
Starting point is 00:09:13 Well, we've been waiting the musical story for about it's been ten months Please I want more of the theater kid, please. Why it's a character. We haven't had around here Please kids. Yeah, that's not very nice. Dan. I'm a theater kid. I like being a theater we haven't had around here. Please kids. Yeah, and that's not very nice. I'm gonna get her kid I like being a theater kid. I'm proud of it. There are there are dozens of us Jeremy it's obvious Dan if you want to love Leah Michelle, you don't want to hear this story for real She can't read put them in a bad way Let's talk for a second about the only thing I care about in this all-star game weekend That's coming up and I will tell you, follow Amin and Charlotte, Oddball,
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Starting point is 00:10:06 Cause I haven't looked at the numbers. All I'm remembering about Sabrina, Sabrina's last three point shooting contest is that she made everything. And I thought to myself, as I was watching, I don't think I've ever seen someone make that many threes before males, a man, woman, anything. And now it's going to be Steph against Sabrina from the, from the men's, men's NBA three point line. I think I'd like to see it the other way. I think the other way Chris Cody was workshopping at take where Steph actually has to shoot from the WNBA three point line. I'd like to see it that way.
Starting point is 00:10:36 I think that would like mess with Steph's head a little bit more because he's not a huge mid range jumper guy. Why take a mid range jumper? One of the greatest three point shooter ever there? This is a no win position. I don't think because if Sabrina ends up beating Steph, people are going to allege that Steph took a dive where Sabrina is a really great shooter. As you mentioned, you've seen her compete in these things before. It's also like a weird head to head type of battle because it's not like he can get out there and close out on a shooter. You know, someone else can get hot. It's not like the
Starting point is 00:11:07 rack plays defense against you. I don't really know what this proves, but I'm really excited to see that and the LED court that's going to be used for all these skills competitions out there. This is going to feel very futuristic. Correct me if I'm wrong because I don't think I'm wrong about this. You say it's a no win position for staff? Yeah. I mean, what does he do if he drag Sabrina like he's going to appear like a bully? No, if he loses, everyone's going to assume that the greatest NBA should not everyone, but people on Twitter, that's going to be the discourse. It's good. It's going to be toxic. I would like for you guys to tell me if you think I'm wrong here. I believe Steph Curry has an advantage, a built in advantage by doing it from
Starting point is 00:11:49 the NBA three point line. He should have to do it. Like he should have to do it from the other like let's make it. Then he threw a shot from across the court in a tunnel. I've made it. I think he can manage to do it a couple of feet closer. Guys, he does thousands a week from this one spot. I know that statistically your numbers improve. Take away his advantage. He's got an advantage here. What's the line? Curry and Escu. I'm seeing Steph Curry at minus two 30 and Sabrina's at plus one 76. That's actually a lot of respect. She made 25 of 27 the last time she did it. But I'm, am I wrong what I'm saying correct me if I'm wrong. This is an advantage for Steph. They're making it
Starting point is 00:12:30 This is not equality. This is Steph has the advantage. He takes thousands of shots from there every day She was the one that said it like all shoot from the NBA 3 point She came out on Twitter and said it. Hey, I'll do it. We'll match up the same way I don't have to shoot women's line. You don't shoot men's men's line. We'll all shoot the same way. So she's the one that said she has an advantage. She's obviously done it enough to feel confident from there, but I'm with you. I think he should, I think we're all saying the same thing here. It's harder to be a man. Yes. I'm saying the man has advantages. The man has all the advantage. Someone with the guts. Can I pop? What did you just do? What did you just do? I was laying out for a funny joke. Stugaz here, when you love someone, you protect them in the best ways you can.
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Starting point is 00:14:25 I said it two seconds earlier than you. This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugatz. I am really happy for this dude professionally, and my heart is a little bit broken for him today because yesterday at the middle of what should have been a wild and wonderful celebration and was a wild and wonderful celebration he's a hundred yards away all of a sudden from the horror that keeps revisiting America again and again. I love what this guy has done with his career he can go high he can go low he's got a great deal of range.
Starting point is 00:15:06 So I don't want to just talk about what happened at the Super Bowl celebration, but thank you, Nick Wright, for joining us. And before we get to the lighter stuff, I do want to talk about what you did on FS1 yesterday and in general, the emotion of seeing the horror of a divided America coming to the city that you loved the most at a time where seconds earlier you were probably as happy as you've
Starting point is 00:15:30 ever been. Yeah, so Wednesday, we started the show and the first words out of my mouth were, I have three kids, I have a wonderful wife, I've been married, it's you know, birth of my kids, and I called Wednesday the best day of my life, which was maybe not the best parenting thing, but it was special. And Wilde said that he thought Kansas City at the parade before the shooting was the happiest place on earth.
Starting point is 00:16:01 It was 800,000 people dressed the same in unison and joy. And it was shattered by a couple of kids, literal kids, who had lightweight semi-automatic rifles on them. And so there's a lot of macro, macro stuff. Selfishly for the micro, what I will say is, and I now empathize, I hope I always had empathy, but I now will empathize in a way that will be with me forever. So we get, we're doing the show and we get in our ears from our producer in New York.
Starting point is 00:16:40 Guys, not joking, listen, active shooter, have to get off the stage because we're in an elevated place and go and Fox had security there and they were outstanding these two guys they were I mean they were they they kept their heads on straight but my my issue was my wife and her two sisters were with me at the parade, but in the crowd. They weren't watching the show, so they were in the crowd. So the Fox Securities trying to get us that way, and I need to find them. And that 15 seconds of not knowing where my wife and her sisters were is the worst moment of my life. And it's not about me. Listen, a lady lost her life, kids lost their mother, two dozen, nearly
Starting point is 00:17:34 two dozen other people were shot, a lot of them children. So I, again, my trauma was about as small as one can have in the situation. And it still is the worst moment of my life. as small as one can have in the situation. And it still is the worst moment of my life. So for thousands and thousands of people, so many of which are children, this now is with them. And it's just, it's so sad. And I mentioned this on the show yesterday, my best friend who I think maybe has been on this show,
Starting point is 00:18:04 I'm not sure, Danny Park into this radio in Chicago He called me the wellness check and While we were talking I realized I had done the same for him Two years prior when he was at the Fourth of July parade in Highland Park, Chicago When there was a different active shooter. And I mean that's America, man. And so yeah, so that's that was that was Wednesday. And then I did my best to piece it out yesterday on the show. Okay, but you say that's America, man. And when I tell people he's one of the best at going both high and low, I will tell you, I haven't seen a career quite like this where he goes from Kansas
Starting point is 00:18:39 City Sports Radio to what he's doing now. I want for you to tell my audience and the people sort of what Kansas City means to you as a city, as someone who came from there, and furthermore, how seeing the politics of the day come and turn your happiest day into your worst day affected you because you care deeply about how divided America is right now. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. Divided is great to talk about Kansas City. Kansas City is a segregated city to this day. There's a street in Kansas City called Troust and on the east side of Troust is, you know, vast majority black. On the west side of Troust, it's a vast majority non-black and it's a divided city, right?
Starting point is 00:19:28 If there's a river that cuts north and south, that divides the downtown and a lot of the city from the Northland, it is a divided city politically, it is a divided city racially, and there is one goddamn thing that brings the city together. The Kansas City Chiefs, not even the Royals, brings the city together. The Kansas City Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:19:45 Not even the Royals. Just the Chiefs. And at that parade, I was shaking hands with state senators and I was shaking hands with people that loved the show that I'm pretty sure on the way to the parade had taken a little meth. It was everybody. It was the whole thing. It was my whole beautiful, ugly, convoluted city
Starting point is 00:20:10 that I grew up in. And we were all united in cheering Patrick Mahomes and Travis and the team. And then we were all united in thinking we were fleeing for our lives. Uh, because I know it has now been described correctly in the media as a dispute between two juveniles. But don't get this part twisted. Somehow, both juveniles had rifles.
Starting point is 00:20:40 Both of them had ARs on them. And so, the reason I'm drawing that distinction is there is a difference between the sound of a single gunshot from a pistol and the sound of the spraying of a semi-automatic rifle and the terror associated with both. And so it is, and because it was young kids and Kansas City has a massive gang violence problem, it is people are going to very easily have the conversation be in the micro, micro, micro,
Starting point is 00:21:16 gang violence, Kansas City, where are the fathers, what's the problem, all of that, as opposed to the obvious bigger issues at hand, which is how do a couple kids, that they recovered five guns, two rifles, how is it that easy? And the answer is because folks have made it their life's work in the political specter to make it that easy.
Starting point is 00:21:44 In the, my dear friend from high school work in the political specter to make it that easy. My dear friend from high school is the mayor of Kansas City, and he has done his absolute best to mitigate some of this. Kansas City attempted to have its own rules about guns. The state attorney general took, and, oh, hold on, let me add some important context there. Didn't just attempt to have its own rules, wanted to have federal laws that are on the books to be able to be enforced at the local level.
Starting point is 00:22:22 The state attorney general sued and took it to the Supreme Court that in Missouri it is a criminal or a civil offense for police officers to enforce federal gun laws. They wanted the end this amazingly they lost in October at the Supreme Court, but that is what we're working with. That is the dynamic, and the problem is because Kansas City, when I was talking about it being divided, it's literally also on a state line. If you could, you know, have a magic wand and say, you know what, the entire state of Missouri is going to have the exact same gun regulations as New York City, it wouldn't matter because Kansas did. Just like Chicago's got the strictest gun laws imaginable, but Indiana doesn't and it's on a state line.
Starting point is 00:23:16 So what does it matter? The reason New York City where I live is incredibly safe from a big city perspective, no matter what the media tells you, it's one of the safest big cities in the world, is not only can you be the star receiver of the New York Giants and just be caught with a gun, hurting no one and go to prison for it, but the surrounding states are in agreement. So having guns here is tough. But where you guys live, it's not. Where I grew up, it's not. Where I used to work in Texas, it's not where I grew up. It's not where I used to work in Texas It's not and so then we just rinse and repeat and traumatize our kids How overstated is it to say that you went from feeling like you were the mayor of Kansas City?
Starting point is 00:23:56 Because unique is your voice as the guy who gets to be at the parade just straight Homer Straight Homer. I'm the voice for your team nationally. And like all you're doing, you are polarizing. There you're getting, I'm assuming nothing, but applause and more applause than you got when you were there and you were polarizing. Correct. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:17 I mean, it was, I, please don't put this individually on social media because it sounds really awful. But I honestly think it was Mahomes, Kelsey, me, Andy Reed. In popularity there. I believe it. I mean, I was. I believe it.
Starting point is 00:24:35 You, I, it was, and this is, this again, is feel so silly. But when I tell you, Steve Spagnolo's wife stopped me and asked me for a picture and said, and I quote, you're the only one who's stuck with us, man. Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, Nick, I think that this had to be so cool for you, just the cosmos turning into you, you into maximum clown because you get to laugh
Starting point is 00:25:02 at the whole industry because they kind of hated you in Kansas City because you get to laugh at the whole industry because they kind of hated you in Kansas City because you were a radio host and you were you are loudmouth and then you go from that to hugging Travis Kelsey because that team feels like you're a mascot for them on television that you're the most ardent supporter and and you got to you got to ride the flume of, I'm the only one who believed in you. I'm the only one who believed
Starting point is 00:25:29 in the greatest quarterback we've ever seen. How ridiculous is that? It's funny. Well, it's really Dan. And you, when not telling your audience I'm wildly underpaid, which is not true. I'm handsomely paid and I'm very happy with everything. Oh, stop it.
Starting point is 00:25:43 Dan Leventar is out here. Stop it. Fox paying. Fox paying. Please, stop it, stop it. Fox Paying, Fox Paying. Please don't, please stop that. The, it is true that I have pulled off the exact same magic trick twice. And the magic trick is telling America, hey, there's a rabbit in this hat.
Starting point is 00:25:57 No one else thinks there is, but I'm telling you there is. And then I show you the rabbit, I put it back in, and I showed you again. And people are like, oh my God. And that magic trick is LeBron James Patrick Mahomes. I think they're good. TurboTax experts make all your moves count, filing with 100% accuracy and getting your max refund guaranteed.
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Starting point is 00:27:35 Don Lebatard! Let me get some golf ASMR. Stugatz! Oh, f*** me. This is the Don Lebatard Show with the Stugats. MUSIC So here's the thing, but be careful what you wish for. Because this picture was put out, Dan, by my people. And that might be the worst picture of any human being ever taken.
Starting point is 00:28:00 LAUGHS Um, I, if you zoom in, I think my nose is casting a shadow on my teeth, which I didn't think was a thing. This was not like found footage. This was the only piece of social media put out by First Things First. And I am here to tell you, I don't think any person has ever looked worse in any picture. I got it I mean I don't know I had a lot of people trending along with my name was Gargamel and I don't know who or what that is but I assume Gargamel's good that's good yeah. Oh man. Okay now we're doing a zoom in. It's not great, man. I mean, I look like I'm 60.
Starting point is 00:28:49 My teeth are not great to begin with. My nose is casting a shadow over them. It's not great. No, but you're the king, but you're the king of kings. The guy behind you is like, wow, this guy looks bad. Yeah. So we're really doing a full zoom in. Yeah. Okay, guys. I mean, I, I mean, I did this to myself, I suppose. I mean, I'm wearing a red and white Louis Vuitton fleece that I had to buy from a guy in Poland because it was fitting for the occasion.
Starting point is 00:29:22 And the, yeah. So, you know, it is. I don't know. I don't know. Oh, no. Now the shadow is fully on his, uh, on his teeth. And now that close up, come on, that close up is wrong. What you're doing to him there.
Starting point is 00:29:36 That is. Come on, guys. Come on, guys. Well, so I, you know what? I'm going to turn this, I'm going to turn this badge of honor. If I, oh, that's Gargamel. Is that Gar know what? I'm gonna turn this. I'm gonna turn this. Badge of honor. If I, oh, that's Gargamel. Is that Gargamel?
Starting point is 00:29:49 That is Gargamel, yes. That is Gargamel, yes. Dog it. All right, it's good. You look like if Gargamel was the number nine for the Croatian national team. Oh, yeah. I mean, there was that.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Somebody said we now know what Severeus Snape or something would look like if he grew up. I didn't ever get that one. Severeus, yes. Oh, that's okay. I'll Venmo, Mike. I'm sorry about that. Yeah, so here's, but Dan, Dan, I'm gonna go Galaxy Brain on this.
Starting point is 00:30:20 Me looking the way I do and having the modicum of success that I've had only proves how good the takes are. Anybody, if you look, if you look like Kyle Brandt, how good do your takes have to be? That's right. Yeah, I mean, now again, his takes are fine. I'm not taking a shot, but if you are wildly handsome that you're supposed to be on TV. When someone just takes a normal picture of you and folks assume it was an inside job to take you down, then the takes must be outstanding. Like, okay.
Starting point is 00:30:57 Yes, congrats. I salute you. I'm very happy for you. I just think the juxtaposition is super weird to go, Nick, from- Yes. From, you're the mayor of Kansas City. You can't believe that you're in the center of Patrick Mahomes and Travis
Starting point is 00:31:12 Kelsey want to hug me. How did this happen? This is the day of my dreams. I'm a sports dork. All I've been doing is loving my team. I'm a fan slash journalist. I'm making, you know, money, fame. I'm the voice for my team, and you go from that
Starting point is 00:31:26 to straight horror, that is a mind, man. Like that's a mind field in terms of mental health. And so that is, and that's why, to bring it back, that's, and then imagine the 100,000 kids there who, they were off from school they were having some of the happiest moments of their life and Pardon me
Starting point is 00:31:54 the story I told on the air yesterday Which was I did not cry through the whole event until back in the hotel at the elevator there was an grant a grandmother on the phone wearing a chief shirt clearly had come from the rally and saw me and my wife and knew me and hugged me and so we talked and she said she was there with her kids and granddaughter. And she said, you know, my 14 year old granddaughter had to take control because she has been trained for these situations.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And that was, and that was, that was the first moment I really, really cried where I'm like, what are we, what are we doing? Like what, what, what, what are we doing and what psychological toll is it taking on this entire generation of children that they, I'll give you guys an anecdote that one of my friends whose kids go to school, I think in Connecticut, told me, he had a kindergartener who came home from school and said, we did Gator on the floor today. And have you guys heard of this? Do you guys know what this is? I don't know what that is.
Starting point is 00:33:15 No. Okay. And he said, what's that? It's kindergarten, six-year-old. And they said, oh, in Florida, an alligator got into one of the schools and all the kids had to go in the closets and be quiet. So he wouldn't come to the room. So the schools had to figure out, okay, we have to teach tiny children what to do in active shooter drills. And we don't wanna tell them about active shooters.
Starting point is 00:33:49 So they came up with something I guess less terrifying, which is an alligator in the school and made a fake, now maybe that actually did happen in Florida, I don't know. But that's not what they were drilling for in Connecticut. It could happen. And so, and it's just, and ever, and folks don't want to, they just, they're just okay with it. And I got in a
Starting point is 00:34:11 long argument with a great hat, Roy. I got in a long argument, right before I came on with you with a conservative talk show in Kansas City about, and he got very mad at me because I said, you're fine with this. He's like, how dare you say I'm fine with this? I'm like, well, no, I mean, you don't like it. You don't want it, but you're fine enough with it to not recognize that the status quo guarantees more of it. And it's really, I mean, it's a failure.
Starting point is 00:34:43 It is a massive failure on behalf of the adults of America. Nick, good seeing you. Sorry that you're in the middle of some trying circumstances. Roy, he is right. It is a great hat. And you can I say one other thing real quick. Yes sir. So I just, Kevin, I don't know how you guys feel of it.
Starting point is 00:35:02 Do you guys feel Dan, when you were coming up in media, did you feel like you had rivals? Like I'm not asking you to name names, but did you, when you were on the Ascent, did you like survey the landscape and anyone around your age or younger, you looked at as your rival? I'll explain more.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I was scared of beat writers who were better than me when I was coming up, but after that, no, I wasn't looking at anybody like that. This show was born out of spy for Hank Goldberg. Okay. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yes. You know what? That is a good one. I'm sorry. I was thinking of writers. No, that is a good one. Yes. Thank you. Like, local radio gas bag, Hank Goldberg. Yes, was my rival. Okay. So listen, so Kevin Wilde makes fun of me because he says that this is an insane way to look at my career. But I just assumed everyone looked at it this way, which is I have a rivals list. Everyone in the media that is within two years of me or younger than me, I must vanquish and
Starting point is 00:35:57 I must be more successful than. I have to do it. They are all my rivals. And the reason I mention it is right now, rising to the top of the rivals list is Pablo Torre and he will be vanquished The top Pablo's younger than me Pablo made fun of me a bit on the show the other day Which only solidified that he is my rival and it doesn't matter that we're friendly It doesn't matter that he's always been kind to me. It doesn't matter that I was at a christmas party with him I will vanquish Pablo Torreatori I will leave him in my way
Starting point is 00:36:26 Why is that a look at me Louis? He was at a Christmas party with Poblatori He's saying he's gonna vanquish him Yeah you know what's gonna be the hardest one because sometimes your dear friends become rivals and you don't want to have to do it but I checked the old Wikipedia date of birth. Mina Kimes younger than me rival. Wait a minute. She's got is she listen. You and say are you and say I love Mina. She's outstanding. She is going. She I think is
Starting point is 00:36:57 going to be the final boss. Oh my God. Right. But she's on the list. Oh my God. Nick. She's on the list. Nick. She has to be banked. Be careful, Nick. Be careful. Kendrick Perkins' rival. Kendrick. Ryan Ruko. Even though we don't really do the same thing, my exact same age, Rival. They're all my rivals.
Starting point is 00:37:15 Perkins first level though. That's easy. Ryan Ruko. But what are you doing? You've just diminished the Kimes and Pablo Torre beef by bringing in Ryan Ruko and Perl. Ryan Ruko's great. He was there. You know why Ryan Ruko is my rival? Because there was a, there was, when I was interning at ESPN radio as a kid in New York city, Ryan Ruko was younger than me and already had called a Division
Starting point is 00:37:38 one basketball game. And from that moment I was like, I must banquish him. He doesn't do the same things as you. He doesn't. It doesn't matter. At one point he was on the list. I love this, Nick. This is one of the greatest things of all time. I found a kindred spirit. I do the same thing.
Starting point is 00:37:53 I must vanquish everyone. You do? Yes, of course. But what? I had the same thought about Whitty. I was like, I must vanquish Whitty. And look, who's here? Who's not gone?
Starting point is 00:38:00 Come on. He's gone. Yeah. He's calling Champions League. That's fine for now. But this is what's happening here. I think you guys are confusing who your rivals are. Mina is in a different category as you and I need you to be careful here.
Starting point is 00:38:19 You're not going to- I love Mina, but here's where you need to be careful Dan because you obviously have ascended your older and a mogul But you unprompted called me the other day gave me career advice You've been so kind you want me to continue to grow if I continue to grow enough at some point Nick you become a right next right now a mentor Nick you can be Nick, right now you're a mentor. You can be my rival. Nick, Nick, I caution you to please be careful, Nick, and hurry up and build that empire,
Starting point is 00:38:49 because I wanna fight you. I do, build the empire, build it, hurry up. You're going too slow. You're only winning championships and hugging Kelsey. You need to fight with the biggest in this industry because you're among the best I've ever seen. So thank you for making the time for us. Well, no one gets to do that, Nick.
Starting point is 00:39:10 No one gets to go from sports radio to you and Mad Dog. Who else gets to go from sports radio to the top of the food chain where they get to be a national voice on all the things that they want? Yeah, but I came through newspapers. I came through newspapers. I didn't come through sports radio
Starting point is 00:39:31 Yeah, well me Colin Matdog. I would say are the ones and those guys have you know, I've worked for both of them I love them both. They have been mentors and if they stay around long enough They will turn into rivals as well. See you later. I thought they had to be near your age I thought they had to be near your age. Well, yes, they do now But at one point if I ever get to Mogul status, then the whole world. Okay, all right. Thank you. See you later, Nick, and congratulations. Hey, it's Mike Ryan recently got back from Las Vegas, Nevada, was there with some good friends, some co-workers, and it was a good time, good time had by all. But it was made better thanks to Miller Time.
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