The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Verbal Sports Crimes
Episode Date: March 11, 2024We listen to a montage of people being loud wrong about Mac Jones montage after he was traded to the Jacksonville Jaguars over the weekend. Then, Russell Wilson is a Steeler #LetsSteel, and Rudy Gober...t gets a HUGE fine for insinuating money influenced the refs. Then, is everyone in sports media replaceable? And is Dan's popcorn overrated? Plus, David and Stugotz share some fears of flying with modern airlines, take write-offs for cars, and Utah State's coach has an incredible postgame press conference. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Why are you listening to this show?
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBatard podcast.
I'm sorry, I'm not gonna apologize for that.
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
That hasn't happened to you guys?
I've done it.
And now, here's the marching man to know where that face and the habitual liar
All right, let's talk Mac Jones everybody's terrified to compare him to Tom Brady folks young Mac Jones looks like young Tom Brady
You need to just put your arms around it because that's exactly what it looks like not here to talk about the past
your arms around it because that's exactly what it looks like. I'm not here to talk about the past.
I'm here to talk about the present and the future.
And his name is Matt Jones.
Matt Jones got written off.
He is a Pro Bowl quarterback.
He may be the best quarterback in the division.
He was thread the needle.
He's throwing like lob passes.
He sent guys double coverage.
It really felt like early 2000s pass.
I love Matt Jones.
I think he's a heck of a competitor.
It's the ball out on time, you know, does the small things right.
I think they are missing a few more pieces on the office
side of the ball once they add those, you know, valuable pieces around them.
I think Mac Jones, he can be successful as any quarterback in this league.
If I had to draft a quarterback in the AFC right now, the way, uh,
Josh Allen, who I love, the way he's going, he doesn't protect the football and Rogers is a hundred to his injury pro Max a
pro bowl if I'm the jets I own the jets if I don't land Aaron I would
absolutely call New England and say we'll take Mac am I am I nuts the
backup quarterback career of Mac Jones started this weekend
congratulations to him.
Yes.
Greatest job at sports.
He should embrace that thing, man.
That is right.
Traded to Jacksonville for a late round pick.
Also, Kenny Pickett's began this morning.
Wow.
Well, I'm not sure about that because only because of this,
because Russell Wilson is on a one year
proof it deal and the job might be Kenny Pickett's again in a year because
if he does or he doesn't because he's only there for one year and he's there cheap at least in part
because he's here to prove to everybody that he still deserves one of those big contracts.
No, he's only there cheap because Denver's paying a salary. Right. He's getting the big contract.
I know. But you're right. But he's there cheap for Pittsburgh, and he's playing in Pittsburgh.
And that part's smart on all parties involved.
Like, to me, that is a no-lose proposition,
because can you be better than Mason Rudolph is...
And he's cheaper, probably, than Mason Rudolph.
I would say Russell has a lot to lose, also a lot to gain.
This is a big moment and a big season coming up for Russell
because he was in the Hall of Fame. He played his way out of the Hall of Fame in Denver and now
he has an opportunity to play his way back into the Hall of Fame with Mike Tomlin and
the Steelers or Dan, he could solidify that he'll never make it to Canton if he is the
quarterback for Mike Tomlin's first losing season. I mean, it's a crossroads. Well, if I know the Steelers to go back, backtrack, it was, you know, the Kenny Pickett backup thing
was a joke because if I know the Steelers, they are going to have a quarterback competition.
And maybe they will have more, carry more weight to Russell Wilson, given his Asian experience
than Kenny Pickett, given his lack of experience
and injury history, but they will act
like it's a competition, whether it really is or it isn't.
I don't think when he signed that he was told anything
other than he's the number one.
I don't think he goes there without the job.
Agreed.
That's why they'll say it's a competition.
They're just gonna pretend.
If I know these tealers, they're gonna say it's a competition.
I think the biggest risk, because he doesn't play, I think Pickens plays this year because I don't see Russell Wilson
playing 17 games. Pickens better play. Pickens is gonna play. Pickett is fine. Pickett is the,
but I do think that they announced that he's not good enough, we all saw that last year,
but I think almost everyone listening to this by consensus, and this is rare in sports, would just look at that
overall deal and say, yep, good for everybody.
Believe that that is a positive thing,
that can work out for everybody
and make everyone a little bit better,
but that's how unimpressive Pickett was
as the starter on that team,
never throwing the ball down field,
never using Pickett's correctly, because he's simple's, look Russell Wilson could still throw the deep ball. Don't tell
me he can't do that because he can do that. And we've all seen him do that. We haven't
seen Kenny Pickett do it.
They also had a offensive coordinator who was fired midway through the season last year
and it coincided with Pickett getting his ankle fractured. So he didn't really even get to play
under a non-MAT Canada offensive coordinator.
So, and then of course, when they got into the playoffs,
they kept going with Rudolph,
because he was the hot hand.
And he played well.
And he did play well.
But they hired a new offensive coordinator,
Arthur Smith, who's got a lot of experience running
good offenses, even though might not have been
the best head coach
in Atlanta.
So I think it's interesting.
It's not very.
You're very gentle there with Arthur.
You might not have been the best.
He wasn't a good head coach,
but he was a good offensive coordinator before that.
And I think it's a low risk,
it's a low risk for the Steelers to sign Russell Wilson,
have Denver cover the $38 million for however much it's needed.
There's only upside, yeah, there's only upside.
We're doing a weird thing with Russell though,
where he had 26 touchdowns and eight interceptions last year.
26 touchdowns is two less than two.
I mean, he didn't have a bad year.
He didn't have a bad year and people think
that he's washed up.
The people who are analyzing that sport most closely are telling you that those numbers
are a bit of a mirage because those are the ones you keep pointing to and they're the
only ones you keep pointing to.
And if I give any starting quarterback in this league that kind of reps, that the way they
play the sport now, it's what it's you're going to come pretty
close to getting that if I give you 16 or 17 games worth of reps. It's just you can't play in this
league unless you're doing that at this point. He had more touchdown passes last season. Russell
Wilson did than the Steelers have had over the last two years as a team. Yes, and you are correct
that the Steeler offense have been bad and most people are
looking at some of what it is statistically that
Russell Wilson has done and said that's not that
bad. But the people who are actually studying
play by play stuff, the people who are scouting
whether the DB's are doing the job. They're not
just, hey, I'm looking at these two numbers. The
people who look at slightly more than those two numbers are saying he was not anything other than
mediocre last year but something I wanted to ask David that sort of I'm not
gonna say it's skated underneath the radar but I don't know that it can be
given enough attention given where we are and where the money is in sports. Rudy Gobert was just fined $100,000. It's a
stiff fine for words said and actions that aren't violent or physical. And he made a
money sign at a referee and then after the game, after the game said that sports betting is influencing the results of games.
I think it's the worst accusation a commissioner
can hear in his office coming from a player.
Like, verbals, verbals said, you know,
there are things, there are crimes that can be committed,
but if you ask me, what, if I'm a commissioner,
what's at the top of my list of,
I'm going to punish this the hardest?
It's what Rudy Gaubert just did. I feel
So happy right now. I'm gonna cry. I'm a little five dollars. I have it you watch nothing personal this morning
I did not. Oh, so you don't know that Adam Silver is wired like in saving Silverman when Jason Biggs went to dinner and
Anytime there's competitive integrity that's on the line,
anytime a player says anything about gambling
or impunes the integrity of any referee, it buzzes.
And he immediately finds the player.
That's where we are with the gambling relationship.
It's the number one issue the commissioners have.
The amount of investigation done into the Rudy Gaubert,
it took five minutes.
It happened, they announced the fine.
And this is because it was gambling related.
Not, when there's fights, they look at video,
they look at all angles, they'll wait two days
when there's something going on off the court.
But when it's gambling, it's immediate.
And what Gobert did, you just can't have it.
You can't have people thinking the referees are fixing games.
I can't believe he did it. No matter what hisbert did, you just can't have it. You can't have people thinking the referees are fixing it. I can't believe he did it.
No matter what his complaints are,
I can't believe that he's making the next step.
You get fined a certain amount
for simply questioning the officiating.
That you can do, you're gonna get fine.
But this is an extraordinary fine.
This is an amount of money that's unusual,
and it's because of the specifics of the accusation.
He's saying that those refs in that game were impacted by gambling.
You cannot say that.
That that's the third rail, but also Rudy Gobert.
This has happened to him before.
So the other thing NBA said is, Hey, we've had to find him so many times for
questioning the officials.
That's another reason we're doing it.
You're surprised that Rudy Gobert did something stupid publicly?
Rudy Gobert?
Are we talking about the same guy?
But he can't say it if he indeed feels it, if he actually feels that way.
He can't lend a voice to it?
No.
What?
Not without consequences?
I mean, okay, so he pays yourself.
He's got a big fine, he's got a pet.
There's also a way to express your dismay with the referees without money signs and explicitly saying it.
The words is really what got him in trouble.
Cause the sign you could kinda like,
oh no, I was doing this, that or whatever.
You can kinda, yeah, you can point it at the referee
to do it.
A hundred thousand dollars though,
the words is what buried him, I think.
When you're like, yeah, you know, the game's fixed.
I thought it was his history is what?
Well, that's what you say.
Speaking of which, is it the four year anniversary yet
of Rudy Gobert?
Yeah, past this weekend.
Oh man.
March 11th, I believe, four years ago
is the day that Rudy Gobert, did he lick the microphone?
He touched all the microphone.
He touched all the microphone.
And then the next day we found out he had COVID.
And then he gave us all COVID.
You had him licking them.
He started the pandemic. Just to God. And then he gave us all COVID. You had him looking them? He started the pandemic.
David thought he was like tongue kissing
all the media members, no, David.
No, no, the microphones, not the media.
I was just escalating your incorrect comment.
Russ had more touchdown passes than Lamar Jackson.
Won the MVP.
Steel or Super Bowl?
Will you defend everything? We're going with ha. Ha ha ha ha. Steel.
Will you defend everything?
We're going with let's smelt, Billy.
Well, what do you mean?
A player.
Yes.
Has committed the act of accusing the referees of a crime.
Right.
That impugned the integrity of the results because he is saying
that gamblers are the reason that the Timberwolves lost because they have bribed officials.
How are you shrugging your shoulders at that?
I'm not shrugging my shoulders. I'm saying if that's the way he feels, he's...
Why not put a voice to it?
Yeah, okay, okay, so yes, does he have for you?
Yeah, $100,000 fine to him is like a $10 fine to me.
It's like, all right, he'll eat $100,000,
but he wanted to put his voice on something
that he clearly feels passionate about.
I mean, and who's to say it's not?
I'm just saying, like that's been going on
in the NBA for years, since David Sturd,
where people felt like these series were predetermined.
I mean, it has.
That conversation's been going on forever.
That's Jorge Sedano on local radio saying it is not one of your employees saying it
when you're the commissioner of the league.
I just don't know.
I honestly, I know that people are talking about you don't have the freedom to express your opinions
these days, but as far as verbal sports crimes go,
like I don't know what I'd put close to this.
You don't have the right to express that as a player
in a league.
You don't.
Well you do, but you give on for it.
Well, there's a consequence.
Right.
Was it a close game?
Yeah, yeah.
They were leading by one and then they lost the game. Can you guys just look up for me? There's a consequence. Right. Was it a close game? Yeah. Yeah.
It was, they were leading by one and then they lost the game.
Can you guys just look up for me?
I'd like in the next segment to do a few precedents with fines.
I want to know how many people have been fined $100,000 for something like this.
Stu Gatz here.
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Don Lebatard. I don't think in 2021 I can get away with my Michael Irvin radio show impressed This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
Stugats, the broadcaster and former safety, I believe it was a safety Solomon Wilcot is his last name spelled
W I L C O X or
COTS, how do you pronounce it? Do you pronounce it Wilcot or Wilcox Wilcot's I think it's COTTS I think it's one T
But I do think it's a T and not an X the reason that I bring it up is only because of this
I was driving and I heard him on
The reason that I bring it up is only because of this. I was driving and I heard him on Sirius XM
and like a lot of people in the media,
they disappear from the mainstream
and I don't notice that they've disappeared
from the mainstream and then they pop up somewhere
and I'm like, oh yeah, that's right.
That person used to be at ESPN or Fox or whatever.
And it got me to thinking about just how interchangeable all of the pieces
in broadcasting are, except for like five of them.
Almost all of them across broadcasting
in the realm of what Solomon Wilcotts does, right?
Because I don't, as we speak right now,
I love Ryan Clark's work, he works hard,
he was interning at ESPN when he was
still a Pittsburgh Steeler and I don't know as we talk right now and I would
think of Ryan Clark as one of the bigger stars that ESPN has, but he had a
contract dispute with ESPN and I, who am in the industry right now as we speak,
don't know if Ryan Clark is or isn't at ESPN because
he had the public contract dispute and I think he might have actually gone back to ESPN
after saying that his contract had lapsed at ESPN.
But my overall point is even if you're Ryan Clark, that all of the pieces except for just
a few are almost entirely interchangeable.
His contract expired with ESPN,
and he was very public about it,
and then he got it on social media,
and then he got a contract done with ESPN.
ESPN thinks he's a big star, and he is a big star.
He's great at what he does.
When I still watch ESPN, as much as I do,
if Ryan Clark wasn't there, probably.
But who is that not true of is what I'm asking asking you and I'm not doing it for just ESPN.
I'm doing it across the sports media landscape.
Your analysts, your sports analysts, are they all interchangeable except for like a handful?
Because I'm having a hard time thinking of anybody who can leave just about anywhere
and actually do damage to a
major mainstream platform, more than is presently being done by the current crumbling of all
media.
Well, remember, people get paid in a way that makes you feel that they can't be changed
out, the way CBS paid Romo, the way they then got Buck and Aikman, and all of a sudden
all of the play-by-play and analysts money went all the way up.
But if you're asking that specific question, who's the handful you're thinking of?
Because I can't think of one where you-
Dan Lebedard, Stu Gotts.
Thank you.
So I can't think of one where you would say, oh, I would not watch this game or I would
not watch this network.
Is there, you said there's a handful.
Were you thinking Lebedard Mc there's a handful were you thinking
levitar mac-a-fee type or were you thinking I'm thinking no I was thinking
of what Stephen A Smith is doing to skip Bayless in the ratings they started at
the same salary they both make eight million dollars a year one of them is
now having his career ended while the other one's about to get the biggest
contract in sports because that's what he is the biggest contract in sports
broadcasting because he because he's that
valuable it's the amount of money that he makes for ESPN but I love that show
and I love Stephen A Smith but if you took Stephen A off the show like I don't
watch the show that much okay but I'd still be consuming ESPN is my point
Shannon Sharp is one of those people, obviously. Right.
Like he just ended one kind of show
where they have someone making the $8 million,
went to the other show where they have someone
making $8 million and the other show
is now got eight and nine and 10 times the rating.
My point is I could live without those guys.
I love to watch them.
I think they're great.
They're a luxury.
You take the games away, then I'm not watching ESPN.
The games are what it's important. All right
So you can say that everyone in broadcasting is disposable and interchangeable and I would not disagree with you
But if that's the case then why pay anyone more than the minimum
If if what you're saying is true, why pay anyone millions in broadcasting? This is a terrible line to be going down
I don't like this at all. Me either.
Let's stop this immediately.
You're replacing all my stuff.
David, what are you doing?
Stop him.
I tried to kick him under the table,
but my legs are slightly too short.
Stop this immediately.
I think what Dan needs to be doing
is focusing on how important it is
to have people who do move the marker.
That is what every network is looking for. Who actually makes a difference? Who
is a channel stopper, not a channel changer? And that is what you're doing. The reason why you have
the show you have and you have the sponsorships you have is they feel as though the hours you provide
cannot be provided by someone else at that same level. Do you know that's why you're here? I hope.
I would say this platform is a different kind of platform,
though.
This is where I disagree with David.
Like, yes, we're doing this thing on our own
that allows us to have our own economy.
But it's hurt ESPN not at all to not have us.
There's no real damage there.
They could let go of my salary without any damage
being done to ESPN.
It doesn't mean that they're not letting go
of something that's valuable to me, but it's not valuable to them and doesn't have to be.
They could let go of Stephen A. Smith and they'd be fine. They could let go of Pat McAfee and
they'd be fine. Okay, you say they'd be fine, but first take would be something less than fine.
But ESPN would be fine. Okay, but the show that he does that makes money, yes, of course.
Would not be as good, of course. Would Disney be okay, yes.
Disney can withstand anyone.
And Disney can withstand any human being
in any walk of life leaving without impacting the brand.
He already did.
They lost the rights to Steamboat, William.
Nobody cared.
That's not Mickey though.
I think I figured out the problem with your popcorn, Dan.
It's stale. Huh. That's because you though, right? I think I figured out the problem with your popcorn Dan. It's stale
Huh, that's cuz you didn't you were in here last night when it was fresh
Hmm, right you and stew only two members the shipping container not to be on the stained carpet was the popcorn good I didn't eat it really can't taste anything
I also
You're talking right still I don't know if Jessica shared with you
She was eating the popcorn thought it was a little dry, and it got in the way
of some analysis during the Oscars.
I would say, Dan, if I were to critique
your famous popcorn recipe, it needs a little bit more
moisture and more seasoning.
The seasoning was good, but I wanted more of it.
I wanted it to rub off on my fingers,
like a Doritos Locos taco.
It's in the bottom of the popcorn bin is the problem.
Well, then we need to mix it better.
That's me on top.
If there were more moisture,
it would add here to the popcorn kernels better.
You gotta do it right.
You just need more liquid.
So the- He's saying, user error.
He's saying you didn't mix the popcorn well enough
before doling it out.
I'm saying add a little liquid.
And then it'll stick to the kernels better
and it won't all sink to the bottom
But it was delicious. I ate my entire box Dan. I I think this is
Respect yes, I think that this is I think this is being misrepresented around here in a way
That's deeply unfair to me and I'll get the honest truth tellers later in the week as opposed to
the lies being told now to embarrass me because if those things were not delicious,
yet ate an awful lot of it for it not to be delicious.
It was a seven hour show, people were starving.
There was plenty of food out there.
There was plenty of food out there.
Jess, was there a conversation like,
hey, we need to eat dance popcorn?
It's terrible, but we need to eat dance popcorn.
To be honest, it unfolded quite organically,
much like the popcorn itself, I assume,
when Lucy had her first bite and was like,
this is weird, and then I was like,
Lucy, say that on the microphone.
You don't know the whole bit with the popcorn,
but trust me, this is gonna crush.
Do it on the mic.
She did say that it was weird,
and I will tell you that she still has it
on her breath this morning because she ate so much of it.
What, Stu, what you missed is that Dan was delivering the popcorn personally to people.
Right.
And when the boss brings you something, even if you don't like it, you take it.
I didn't bring her the other two boxes of it that she had.
No, but once you start, you get, people understood how much it meant to you.
I read all the texts you sent me before the show
about your popcorn.
All I asked you was, how many people am I making popcorn for?
You asked me three times, so I made up a number.
Everybody knew how important the popcorn was.
The popcorn is not important.
What you do in that situation though,
is you take a couple of bites, you tell Dan how great it is,
you wait for Dan to leave, then you toss it in the garbage.
I'm sure nothing drove David crazier than trying to get a headcount for Sunday night
No, I didn't try you just gave up immediately
I just I just said to Mike Ryan. I said what's the number Mike texted me 25?
And I didn't really give him context so I just gave 25 to Dan so I could stop the back and forth on the popcorn
You like the margaritas too,
because good Lord, we got some drinkers.
You guys polished off the margaritas.
The margaritas got polished off so damn fast
that I thought I brought enough for 20 people
and it was gone in 15 minutes.
And Roy was drunk inside of 45.
You had the wrong ratio.
It's more drink, less popcorn.
You went more popcorn.
I think there was so much popcorn
that people were thirsty to wash it down the kernels
because even excellent popcorn,
not saying yours wasn't excellent,
but even excellent moist popcorn kernels,
they get stuck back here and in the molars stand.
So you need to wash it down.
You need to always have a beverage.
So I think the tequila, Jose Cuervo to popcorn ratio
was just, we needed more liquid.
This isn't bad, I don't know what the criticism is.
It's fine.
No, it's good.
It's fine.
Just needs to be more, more seasoning.
Rudy Gobert, getting back to the conversation
that we were having earlier,
Luca Donchic did the same thing with the money gesture
and got fined $35,000 so it's three times as
much for Goldberg because he's a recidivist. Yes, he is a serial offender.
Yeah, that's where David was right on this is he's been fined multiple times before in
regard to the refs. The last player in the NBA to be fined $100,000 was James Harden,
but that was because he refused to play for the 76ers. So I've been trying, scouring the internet,
cannot find another player who's been fined that much
for any criticism of the referee.
The only person who's been fined, it's been Mark Cuban,
like who's just racked up like $20 million in fines
for criticizing the refs over the years.
He was fined $500,000 in 2022 and $500,000 in 2020
for criticizing the officials.
And then he did that thing where he said,
you know what I'm gonna do?
I'm gonna match it and give it to charity.
And then he turned it into like a big win,
which is crazy because I thought
that that went to charity anyways.
But he's like, yeah, I'm gonna give it to charity.
And then he was also fined $600,000 in 2018 for saying,
it's better for us to lose,
which is also something that you're not supposed to be saying.
That's the integrity issue yet again.
You speak of the officiating,
and I don't believe that Shaquille O'Neal
at any point in his career could be officiated correctly,
but Shaq has said that if he played today's two guys,
he would average 60 points a game easily.
He says he would average 60 points a game easily. He says he would average 60 points
a game easily and that he would be paid $300 million a year tax-free. So he would also
over the cap.
Over the cap.
He'd be the cap.
Tax-free. Let's hear Shaquille O'Neal dismissing one of Stugatz's heroes.
What people don't understand, I throw this word out
because they need to understand, G14 classification.
So if you were great, like a shack and a camp,
we have G14 classification.
To say whatever you want.
Yes, because we've been there and we've done that
on high levels since high school.
High school, college, and the pros, we've been there and done that.
So when we say something, we're always taking person.
Like, he knows how it is to be a pressure quarterback
at the Super Bowl.
He knows all that, so he's allowed to speak on that.
A lot of times when he speaks, people get sensitive.
A lot of times when I speak, people get sensitive,
but you need to understand G14 classification.
Now, there's a lot of dudes who have no G14 classification,
like mad dog.
Like what the fuck do you know about quarterback?
What the fuck are you talking about being a bit like?
So shut the fuck up, mad dog.
Stick to the tradition of me. When it comes sports you don't know what you're talking about. I do.
I hate that. I mean I really do. First off leave doggy alone. He's a legend. He's a hall of famer.
Shaq we're not watching you split atoms. We're watching you play basketball. Like that's what
we're doing. It's easy for us to break it down. Just because
we didn't play at the highest of levels doesn't mean we can't have an informed good opinion
about something we're watching on TV. I hate when athletes do that. I really do. Especially
the doggy, a legend in the game. I mean.
Stugatz, what's a Spain pick and roll?
What?
Don Libertad.
Punctuate this segment with what is your strike three call. What? Don Lebatard!
Punctuate this segment with what is your strike 3 call.
Strike 1 would be...
Strike!
And then you stand up and you give a good point to the right.
Stugats!
That's same for strike 2.
But strike 3, you get down low, you got your hands behind the catcher.
The right arm goes up into the air.
And then you finish it with a punch.
The right arm flings way up into the air. And you finish it with a punch. The right arm flings way up into the air.
Ha!
Ha!
I wish I could see that.
It's their audio's great.
This is the Don Lebatar Show with the Stugats.
Just overheard Samson and Stugatz talk about their sudden fear of flying.
Samson is bolting here in a little bit because he's got to get back to New York.
He has been carrying the entirety of the network here for about 36 hours.
And so he's beheaded back.
What is the nature of your fear?
Because I heard you both talking and we might as well talk about it on air
because I wanted to show you guys and the audience a video from over the weekend.
David is flying today and you know I flew last night and I flew United and I asked David
if you're flying United he said no he's an American guy he's flying American Airlines.
I fly United now Dan it feels well flying in general feels like a crapshoot but United
really feels like a coin toss man
It's the safest way to travel still got so I don't know what you how you define crapshoot
I mean planes are making emergency landings left and right doors are falling off wheels are falling off things are falling all planes
I mean, but they're they're all landing safely
So it's I mean, one wheel fell off,
but there's still six other wheels there
on that one leg.
That's fine.
It's a different story if that wheel doesn't fall
into a parking lot without cars.
That wheel falls on a person.
Look at these arms there.
Yeah, but that has nothing to do with my fear of flying.
I don't, I mean, that's my fear
of just being a human walking around.
I just don't know how you approve a plane for takeoff when a door comes off mid-flight
or a wheel falls off mid-flight.
Well, they weren't expecting that to happen.
That's the problem, Stu, guys.
Expect it!
That is the problem.
There's been a lot of criticism about the cost-cutting measures that the airlines have
put in place and that the airline manufacturers have put in place.
And that is why people feel unsafe right now,
because while there hasn't been a huge commercial airline crash in the United States in decades,
knock on wood, hopefully that never happens again. There's incidents happening every day,
and because we have video of all of them, they're going viral, and especially the incident
on Alaska Air where the door fell off mid-flight. That was not ideal. People's phones and clothes got sucked through
into the night sky.
People are freaked out and they should be.
We should demand better of people
that are in charge of our safety.
I would like to see if you'll do a poll for me.
And I'm not captaining the ship today,
but I do have a poll.
Would you rather own a stock that goes up
or would you rather have a plane that works?
Wow.
And I asked that.
Oh, it's a good question.
I asked that seriously because what we're talking about
is Boeing.
The people that own the stock would probably answer different
than people that don't, which is scary.
What Jessica was referring to is Boeing,
and Boeing's having a real problem.
Last week tonight did a comprehensive report
as they often do on just Boeing and all of
their cost cutting and the partnership that they got into that made Boeing go from the
safest and most respected of all the airlines to something that has been contaminated and
corrupted by the need for profit.
By the need for stock price.
It doesn't have to be profit.
You can have a good stock price.
There's a ton of great stocks
where the companies have never made a dollar,
which is very bizarre.
So it's not even that.
It's that they needed their price
to increase their stock price.
There was a ton of pressure from that partnership.
And so the issue is that Boeing
doesn't have the number of inspectors they used to have.
There's not the duplication of jobs that used to exist,
so they'll get rid of layers to save money.
Still, you'd expect the door to be bolted.
I mean, there's like a bottom line of stuff.
Well, you'd also expect not the giant wheels
not to fall out of the sky in a way
that could kill somebody, anybody that was below.
No, that's exactly right. I have been privately following this Boeing situation since the
two really tragic crashes in 2017 and 2018, I believe, the Ethiopian Airlines flight and
the Indonesian airline, I think was the other...
The 737 Maxis.
The 737 Maxis, which had some sort of software update.
I'm not technically savvy enough to describe to you what it was, but horrible incidents.
And just absolutely, just reading about what happened to these people and how their families
have been trying to get justice for them, it is horrifying and terrifying.
And Boeing has largely gotten away with it and has now relaunched these Boeing Max as they fixed the software issue. But now the Max
9, which is the flight, or the Alaska Airlines flight that had the fuselage door that came
loose, is the center of attention. They grounded all of those flights, or all of those aircraft
for months while they inspected all of them. And it's like, when is there going to be some sort of like a dress that happens to Boeing where it's like,
you guys are lucky something worse hasn't happened.
You're lucky there wasn't someone sitting in the seat.
Something worse did happen.
It just didn't happen in America.
Exactly, right.
And that is 100% why it's terrifying,
why it's like scary to anyone who's paying attention
because it was largely able to be swept under
the rug here.
I don't know, I hadn't watched the John Oliver clip yet.
It's 30 minutes, he dedicated to just this, and it's all horrifying.
There's so much entanglement between the companies and the government regulators that I think
really should frighten people because it's like who's
in charge here like how do we how do we find some sort of safeguard for
passengers when everyone knows each other in this industry and they're looking
out for each other. They changed the marketing so no longer so it used to be
the people were scared after these crashes they wouldn't fly on the Maxis
so Boeing instead of actually hiring people to have it not happen, instead
they changed the name of the plane. So you don't often see anymore, it's now the 737-900,
the 737-800, the 737-700 they do it.
Out of sight, out of mind.
Out of sight, listen, who wants to think about it?
But I'm more inclined to walk on that plane now.
When their entire is falling out of the sky, I want somebody to have thought about it.
But you changed the name, that's a heady play.
There are, I mean, yes, on Stugott's clown face airlines,
it's a heady play, not if I'm risking my life.
It's still way safer to fly than it is to take 95 in Miami.
This is just like when I was in college at UCF
and there was a string of armed robberies
and a stairwell at one of the apartment complexes.
And instead of actually hiring new security,
they just changed the name of the apartment complex
before the new freshman came in.
David, that's a great point about I-95 though,
because automobiles are very dangerous,
and driving in the United States is extremely,
like exponentially more dangerous than flying.
But the automobile industry is not something
that we've regulated the same way
as the airline industry.
You're seeing cars that can go 200 miles an hour,
just anyone can have a car that goes faster
than is legal to drive in this country.
Like there's no limitations on manufacturing cars
that can kill people or cars that are super heavy
that can crush smaller cars.
And so it's interesting when people say that because it's like, yeah, well,
driving is something we've accepted as a necessity to get around in the United
States, but it is extremely dangerous.
And, and we just like treat it like it's okay, but I don't think that's okay either.
That's like, it's terrifying.
I think I hate driving on 95.
Welcome to Miami.
It's terrifying.
But I think one of the reasons why I hate living here, I hate driving here.
She's the second person who just said this from your group.
I think we may have a rather, Lucy doesn't like it here.
A lot of people who move to Miami don't like it here.
How are we addressing that as a company?
I'm not fixing Miami.
Is there any way you can fix anything?
Billy Corbin's fixing Miami.
Can you let them relocate to the New York studio?
No, we got enough people working abroad. We need some of them to work here. No, David's fixing Miami. Can you let them relocate to the New York studio?
No, we got enough people working abroad.
We need some of them to work here.
David's on something.
I want to play for both of you guys a couple of things.
Snowbirdnet on it.
I have not seen a lot of before in sports,
and so I ask you which of these two is rarer,
but before I do that, can you look up for me something
that someone told me this weekend,
that I did not verify that I can't believe is so,
but somebody was insisting it so,
that Jay-Z and Beyoncé have a car that is so expensive
and of a certain weight that it is a tax deduction.
All of it is a tax deduction completely
because of the weight of it.
And so, because I haven't verified it,
and because of what you guys were talking about.
I think a lot of people do that with navigators.
Like you can write off company cars
because of the weight of the car.
So if you could look that up for me, I'd appreciate it.
How does that work?
We're about to find out by looking it up.
I didn't know there was a correlation to weight.
If they use it for business, you can deduct it.
But combined with the weight of the car,
it's also evidently very expensive.
Do you think Carmelone could deduct his 18-wheeler?
Is that the theory?
I don't know, David.
My account to write off anything.
Yeah.
Got a guess.
So, so, so.
I would be careful about how loudly you say that.
Oh, it's a joke.
It's a joke, Come on, IRS.
Taxi's a bit off.
It's literally the worst time to say that.
And between March, like 1st and April 15th, you don't make any public IRS jokes.
Do it on the 16th.
Every, yes.
He's stirred somebody who had slowly fallen asleep at his desk.
He's just somebody who had slowly fallen asleep at his desk. He's just collecting. Let me look at Stu guys.
He's collecting government checks.
He's bored.
He hates his job and we get him through three and a half hours of the day.
If your car weighs over 6,000 pounds and is mainly used for business, you can get a partial
deduction.
And bonus for depreciation.
Wow.
So what qualifies as using it for business then?
I guess they can say since they're getting driven around in it that counts?
Any asset you can depreciate,
so I don't know what that has to do with it.
I don't understand that part of the definition.
The text code is crazy, am I right?
It's hard for so many people.
Let me play for you guys two things
that I have not seen before.
Am I?
So confusing.
One of them is the Utah State Women's Basketball Coach
Kayla Ard.
This is the last press conference of her season.
I've never seen this before.
And how do you plan to rebuild for next season?
I'm not gonna be rebuilding.
I just coached my last game at Utah State.
I spoke with Diana and they're going in a different direction
and I respect her decision
and I hope they get a really good coach in.
I'm assuming that's going to be the last question. All right.
Okay.
That's all.
Thank you coach.
What?
That is not ideal PR.
Awkward.
That is the punctuation on her career.
So you tell me which is odd or that or,
and I don't have video here for this,
but Lance Lynn, and of course this happened
with the blight on our people, Billy,
Angel Hernandez, who ejected Lance Lynn
from a spring training game,
and then Lance Lynn went to the bullpin to keep throwing,
and he ejected him from the bullpin as well.
That's baseball, I mean.
He ejected Lance Lynn twice.
That's on Lance.
That's on Angel.
Although where Lance was, he's on the Cardinals
at Roger Dean, did this happen?
Yeah.
He could have gone to the Bearsfields.
There's plenty of fields that you can throw in.
That was a little afternoon to Angel.
But come on, what are we doing?
What are we doing? What are we doing?
It's spring training.
This reminds me the other day.
I don't know, we didn't talk about it,
but Thomas Bryan of the Heat,
because he won the championship with the Nuggets,
but was suspended.
They let him go back into the arena in Denver
to get his ring,
but then immediately after the ceremony,
they told him he had to leave the building.
He couldn't even, like he couldn't even try.
He couldn't even like get couldn't even get nostalgic with his
championship teammate. He immediately had to leave. It's like come on, come on.
Poor DB. He was so upset. You could see it on his face. He's getting his championship
break and he knows I'm gonna have to walk out of here. What are we doing? It's hard to win a championship.
At least they let him get his ring, right?
That's when he was the same.
They open the window for him.
He can't stop the ring.
The ring's the thing.
Lance Linn is throwing a bullpen.
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