The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: We're All Pawns
Episode Date: August 27, 2024Jess has broken open the case involving how Dan became a pawn for the Miami Dolphins in the Tua interview, and spoiler alert: we were looking in all the wrong places. Before we get to that shocking de...velopment, Greg continues to try and fight Amin on auditioning for the Golden Oldies to no avail. Also, Amin wants to celebrate his Golden Tech Yellow Jackets and Mike helps educate us about the Jannik Sinner doping scandal and how he has been able to continue playing despite a positive test for anabolic steroids. Then, Billy wants us all to move on from the Tua Tagovailoa/Brian Flores controversy that our show started. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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Why are you listening to this show?
The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan LeBattard podcast.
I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that.
In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging.
I have been tempted in restaurants just walking past tables
to grab somebody's fries if they're just there.
That hasn't happened to you guys?
I've done it.
And now, here's the marching man to nowhere,
fat face, and the habitual liar.
I would only consider doing this if the Heat know about this ahead of time.
Like, they're not surprised because five people
from the Levitard Show are walking into our kitchen.
We have a good relationship with them.
Greg, it says here of the event is more than 25 miles
from the Casaya Center, mileage is to be paid by the client
at the rate of 56 cents per mile.
Wow.
There you go.
This tryout seems like it's 25 miles from the Casaya Center.
Should Gold and Oldies incur any miscellaneous expense ie
Parking and or ballet charges it is the client's responsibility to cover such costs about hip replacements
Trips that require air travel will be arranged on a case-by-case basis, so they might be getting you some flights playoffs
Flying the golden oldies anywhere I
Love this all right, so it's settled all right
Yeah, you have someone ready. I got a thumbs up from Carl, so that's all I need.
All right, there we go.
Who's going with me to insulate me?
We'll figure that out.
I want to know.
Chris, you should have to go.
I'm going to stay here.
We'll figure it out.
Do they just tell them the dance is a dance-y drop kind of situation?
Hopefully not.
Do they have to do routines?
They give them routines.
Greg, isn't that a thing from the olden days?
That would be terrible.
Like the dance, 24-hour dance marathons and like the last couple standing would win
Yeah, there used to be one of those there used to be that did you have them dancing until they dropped it?
No, I'm not no
Ones Jess is right you guys you guys algorithms are all messed up
No, I would just saying like until you tap out or whatever.
Or do they give you routines?
Is there a routine that you gotta do?
That's what I would like to know.
What am I getting myself into here?
What do I have to do?
I'll keep reading.
Well, it looked like on the flyer,
there was a prep session last week that we may have missed.
So I fear that the other contestants will be showing up
a little bit more prepared than Greg.
Have a leg up.
Literally.
I trust Greg.
His ability to think on his feet and learn on the fly.
This is, if anything, he's proven over the years
that he's an adaptable human being
who you give him a set of circumstances
and he'll get used to it.
I'm so happy this is happening.
You have to guarantee me that there will be no media there.
Well, you'll be there.
If Ariadne's are from NBC 6 is there,
and I'm on the 6 o'clock news doing this,
it will be mortifying.
Will Mansell.
Great name choice.
No, I can guarantee Ari will be there.
And Will Mansell.
I will tip him off.
No, please, no.
Don't you dare, because Ari would show up.
He would.
And he's been tipped.
No!
Greg, we should make a bargain.
If you go today. He'd show up
without being tipped, so.
Yeah.
Now he might be 60.
Maybe he's dancing.
If you go today, we'll do this deal on Dan's behalf.
Dan will do this when he turns 60.
Okay. You do it today.
Oh!
I'm gonna hold you to that.
Next year. Okay.
I like this.
Next year.
Deal.
This is the old wimpy from Popeyes, right?
I will gladly pay you for a burger today
with two burgers tomorrow, whatever the hell it is.
I'll gladly give you two dollars tomorrow
for a burger today.
There you go, that's how it is.
Good reference by Amin.
Thank you.
Christopher, you do have to promise me
that the heat will be forewarned about this,
that we're not just going up.
I already, I'm texting Jeremy right now,
he'll talk to his people, you'll be fine.
What if he shows up?
Because I don't wanna disrespect that.
If the worst case, they don't let you come,
we're not gonna, if they say no, we will listen to them.
You're not by doing it this way, you're honoring the trial.
You're gonna go at 11 and sign.
You're not demanding you make the team, you're going. You followed my instruction. You're on the team you're going the optics would have been bad if it would I suggested which is
just bomb in and use your family no you're doing this the right way Greg
you're showing that you put your pants on one leg at a time just like everybody
yes I don't though I put my pants on two legs at a time do down you down and do it. No, I do. Yeah And one it has to be exact right one can't one leg pant leg can't be leading by more than three inches
They have to be even the entire time. It's caught in that thing. Yeah sure that happens
Yeah, especially with a new pair of pants. So you start over
I had Christopher and Michael holding either side of the pants and then you from a platform above jumping down it
Landing that might work with the big fat-legged bib overalls
or something.
I've never worn a bib overall in my life.
Really, why not?
My dad used to wear bib overalls.
Wild Bill?
Yeah.
No kidding.
Wild Bill?
Wild Bib.
You okay? Oh damn. All right, listen, that's a good laugh. I'm good. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha No shirt. Really? Oh, that's how you do it. No, he wore a shirt. Oh yeah? Flannel. Straw hat.
That's a chafing nipple nightmare.
No shirt.
Yeah, we don't like the no shirt look
under any circumstances.
Ever?
No, I shower with a shirt on.
No you don't.
No I do.
Get out of here.
No I do.
In your pool.
Well, I wash my hair in my pool.
Yeah.
And then I'm usually shirtless, but not always.
Then transition to the shower, put a shirt on.
Nice fresh shirt. That's right. take the shower, rest of the shower.
Pants on, two legs at a time.
What if you're the golden oldie that has to lift up
the shirt to show your belly?
That ain't gonna happen.
No, wait, that is a move.
That is a thing they do sometimes.
You have such a marquee belly button, though.
You do.
It's a draw.
It seems like a mean nose, the full routine.
How well are you familiar with this?
I've watched eight billion Miami Heat games
and it feels like the Golden Oldies are at every game,
even though I know that's not the case.
Look, they are a well-oiled machine.
Now, Greg, I'm gonna tell you right now,
it's the Miami Heat, so they don't like the blade of grass
that sticks up the wrong way.
They want everybody moving in unison.
So you're gonna have to show that you can
conform a little yet
there is a way to be a star within conformity don't let people tell you that
that means you gotta be bland in uniform you can still pop
while still going with the flow i assume that the people auditioning today
would be newcomers, right? Like they're first time auditioners.
They probably make veterans re-audition, I would guess.
That's what other cheer squads do.
Do they?
Yeah.
Wait, do you get past the first cut at least or something?
Like there's gotta be some, wow.
You don't even go first round by.
So you made the team last year,
you're starting from scratch this year?
That doesn't seem right.
That doesn't seem fair at all.
I feel like there's politics involved in that though
you know like you have to try out but guess who's good at politics who
Gregory Cody Wow look at that PC seven votes baby Greg if you had to do like an
audition to one song and it was like your signature song and like your
signature audition dance what song would you choose?
Maybe King of the Road. Wow, that's a good one.
Fail is for sale or rent.
Dance of the Year.
Room slip 50 cents.
What are you dancing to this?
I don't know what I'm, I don't have a dance move.
It would seem that the music you like
to is not necessarily dancing friendly.
Oh yes it is.
Yes, thank you Billy. No it is. Thank you billy. No, it is it is
I'm wrong the waltz and the the kind of ballroom doesn't listen to that guys
He listens to stuff like he's wearing a tits of the maytall shirt right now. I know he's he's got
He's got a deeper catalog. He's not listening to chamber music or it is true polka
It is true, Mike's right.
He's a hip hop fan.
He likes back.
He's got rhythm.
Why are you getting so defensive of him?
Because he's got it.
It's just what you're presenting is just not true.
Sorry.
He likes LCD sound system.
He likes music with some 808s and bumps in it.
North American scum.
You're welcome.
This is very exciting.
I mean, you're gonna be a golden oldie.
We hope not.
No, no, no.
We hope so.
No, you have to try your best.
Don't go out there and tank it.
Don't tank it.
Oh, if Greg's going up there, he's gonna try his best.
I mean, what's the point?
I mean.
Well, how can we incentivize you
to try your absolute best?
What's an incentive you'd like?
I wish I knew more about what I'm getting into.
Like, am I just in a line kicking my leg
with other oldies, or am I doing a routine all by myself?
Like, just.
Well, we've established that you don't like
being all by yourself, right?
You want, you hide on the dance floor is the way you put it.
I think there's a way to make it work though
with a dance troupe,
because they usually put the best dancers front and center.
And as you move further to the back,
those are the weaker dancers back there.
So I'm going off all my golden oldies experience
watching all these Miami Heat games.
So don't think that like, hey, if I get on this team,
they're gonna put me front and center
and then I have to lead this thing.
They hide you.
They were hiding.
So there are bad golden oldies.
There are ones that are not as good as the best ones.
The best ones are really good.
That's reassuring.
It's like bench players on an NBA team.
Yeah, right.
So the best ones are probably like former Rockettes
at Radio City Music Hall.
Or just people who love the art form. Yeah, you know
That ain't me babe. You make your demands Greg you tell them where you want to plug. That's it. You know, I want this spot
If you make the team if you well, he's gonna make it but you got to try
I feel like I'm talking my kid right now. You can't just go in there with a defeatist attitude. I gotta go in there
Inherently, I am going to be embarrassed and embarrass myself, but not willfully,
just by lack of dancing talent.
Okay, here we go.
Can we practice a little?
Yeah, we've done this before,
but let me see your belly button.
Stand up, get a little practice in.
All right, for the audio audience.
The only dance move I have is this.
Yeah!
Oh my gosh, that's a signature.
That's a good one.
Cut the tail, cut the tail. Cut the tail, that's good. audience. That's a good one. Drop it down low and torque your little ass. Is there a sprinkler in
there or anything? A little side to side? You know the sprinkler? Lawn mower! That's good, you're fluid. Give us a
kick. You've got a good gate. Well don't, no no don't give them, don't give them
all the goods right now. Got like a Michael Jackson kick't don't no no don't give them don't give them all the goods right now
Like a Michael Jackson kick in here
Don't give them the cow
Let's see you don't want to see don't see why I don't see why they do do that though
They should have well, guess what? Just try going to 24. What you going?
What is the thing do the gritty you I know you know how to do the gritty. I'm out of moves. What is the thing, dude? Do the gritty.
I know you know how to do the gritty.
Oh, that a boy.
All right.
Yes.
Greg, teach me how to dougie, Greg.
Black Beetle challenge, go!
I don't know how to do any of that stuff.
What is the gritty?
What is the gritty?
What do you think it is?
Why don't you do what you think it is,
and then we'll say yes or no.
What?
Is that it?
Yeah.
That's the gritty.
There you go.
There you go.
That's the gritty. That you go. There it is.
Nailed it.
That's the gritty.
That's actually not too horrible.
It's like the Heisman too small.
So what'd your boy tell him, Greg?
All spent.
That's all my material.
See, I don't have to audition now.
Just send that tape to the Golden Ole Organizer.
Superman that, oh.
So, before,
I'm winded.
What time is the audition?
Noon.
And it's across the street.
It's not, it's in Pepper Pines.
It's in Pepper Pines.
It's in another county.
We're doing it though, we're committed.
I already see Danny with a backpack on.
So he's gotta leave fairly soon.
Wow, no.
Danny does always have a backpack on.
What time do I have to be there?
11 is when the registration starts,
but just leave now.
And how quickly can I leave?
You're gonna leave after this segment and go.
Well, Greg should have someone register for him, I think.
If it doesn't start till noon,
can I get there at like 11.55?
That's a great question.
We want you to get there around 11.15, 11.30,
and we can like go check in with you.
Set the scene.
It is important for you to politic also when you get there.
Right.
You get there five minutes before
then the other golden oldies think,
oh, this man thinks he's above us.
You need to go and shake some hands,
maybe find out who the judges are.
In the 11 o'clock hour, maybe you and Jeremy
can get the person who's judging this
and we interview them and put a little pressure on them
to just make you get on the team.
That's a lot of work.
That's a Jeremy thing.
I have an idea for you, Greg.
Who does Chris have in the keeper league?
Because I heard the trade deadline got extended.
So maybe if you go, you guys do a little, you know?
I got Chris Olave.
I have, who the hell else do I have?
Tyree Kill.
Nice.
It's like a hand lotion.
Olave.
Okay.
You're right.
Yeah.
Olave.
I have another song for you with Olave
because of Pooka Nakua.
I wanted you to do olave. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh Oh, lovey. Oh. Yeah, we can work that out. I wish part of this trial
was singing. You'd be a lot. Oh, it could be. It could be. Oh, lovey. Now dance. Why
are you doing that? I don't know. You got to dance. I can't do both. You can't do both?
That one's an easy dance. You just have one hand on your chest. Oh I don't know. You gotta dance. I can't do both. You can't do both? That one's an easy dance.
You just have one hand on your chest.
Oh, I like that.
You kind of Christopher walk in there.
Give it a try, give it a try.
There he goes.
Now you gotta sing too.
Oh, la, re.
I have no idea the words of that song.
Whoa.
That's the words.
That's it, that's all I know about that song.
Volare.
There's a great Colombo episode where they're on a cruise
and the woman is singing the song while the murderer slips into the cabin and does the murder.
It's a very good episode.
The murderer slips, does he go, hollary, hollary.
No, the cruise singer sings hollary while the murderer slips into the room.
Oh yeah.
You said slips.
And then does the murder.
Slip as in sneakily enters.
Okay. You said slips and then does the murder slip isn't sneakily enters, okay?
I love the idea of my dad getting there ready to go and they're like sorry sir no boat shoes
Don't make marks
I'll do it barefoot. I'll dance barefoot. I don't care what's all what's going on on the great Cody show this week
We have Mario Cristobal on the Miami Hurricanes football coach. He's unusually candid. He's very good interview.
Interview cuts it cuts out 20 minutes in just because my dad doesn't have a proper zoom.
Yeah, and then we finished the interview on the phone. It was weird.
We the Father Son Olympics are coming to a crescendo. Wow. And we are trying to settle on a final tiebreaker.
Oh, there was a tie?
Yes, 5-5.
We need a tiebreaker.
I have a vote online.
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Stugats!
They call him Pooka.
Pooka.
Pooka Nakua.
Pooka Nakua.
His quarterback is not named Tua.
Yeah!
And he is Pooka.
Pooka.
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For those of you tuning in live right now, you just turned on a YouTube livestream or wherever you're catching us and you're saying,
wait a second, it's a Greg Cody Tuesday. Where's Greg Cody?
We sent him
He's actually just left. He's on assignment. Yes, we sent him on assignment. Yeah go try out
For the golden oldies complaining like where is this place? You had to drag him out of here?
He's just like wait. I've got to bring my stuff. I'm not coming back. I'm like dad. This is in pines
He's gonna fit him perfectly
Can you imagine the back of my day material? He's gonna get out of that just being around other really no
Is he gonna be like the young wiper snapper there or oh?
Young one no, he's seven and six is the age can't believe you revealed the age
I mean, he's I mean we talked about he was 69, we made jokes about it.
Nice.
Or maybe that was just me.
Jess has been making jokes.
I feel less certain now that that was on air.
So we await to hear word from Greg Cody up there
of how that process is going.
A little bit later today, we've got two suey categories.
Chris, one of them is the best back in my day.
Yep, anyway, because I thought my dad would be here.
I didn't think we were sending him to try out.
He did one this year?
We had enough, yeah.
Honestly, there was 10 this year.
10 total.
What you think about it, it's not that much.
It's like one every five weeks.
But wasn't, weren't like two of them AI?
Yes.
It's less than one a month. I ended up like two of them AI? Yes. It's less than one a month.
I ended up cutting two of them.
So there's eight nominated.
Wow.
So I don't remember about, I don't think they're AI.
Are we going to listen to the full Back in My Days?
No, I abbreviate them.
Yeah, man.
It's curated.
It's about 13 minutes of Back in My Days
we have coming up later in the show.
What's the other suey?
Best mistake, or worst mistake, because that's how we call it.
Oh, boy. Stugatsa, are you best known for other suey? Best mistake, well worst mistake. Oh boy. That's how we call it.
Are you best known for best dismissal?
I think it's dismissal.
I think Dan owns the mistake category.
I bring it strong this year.
Really?
I bring it strong this year.
Are there any better than Vince Willfork?
Or was that most uncomfortable moment?
That was uncomfortable last year.
That's not nominated this year.
Yeah.
Dan usually dominates this conference.
And Dan brings it this year, but I Dan usually dominates this conference.
Dan brings it this year, but I give him a fight for his money.
Fight for his money.
Did I say that?
Did I not say that?
I don't know if you said that.
I'm not going to lie.
I watched.
Yeah, run for his money.
Fight for his life.
We'll add that for now.
If you did that on purpose, it would have been great.
I thought you were.
I did.
I watched the best dismissal suey category yesterday and my honest-to-god reaction was I need to get better at dismissals because I
Wasn't nominated for a single one and I was just listening to Billy and Stu gots just crush it and Mike honestly Mike
Swearing at Mario Cristobal for not kneeling it down was a moment. Hold on. Hold on bulls**t
I did not do that. That was after an entire show of you guys browbeating me.
Put us there in that moment.
I knew you'd hate that.
Yeah, I did.
Unfair.
I did.
Thanks.
And it was like minutes removed from me asking
for Mario Crisible to do something.
Right.
Jess, as I think we're friends, as a friend I would say,
don't worry about the dismissals.
Career wise, better not to get into the dismissal game.
I mean it's worked out well for me.
Well, until it does it.
Yeah, just, you're on the right path.
I had the same thought as you also.
Keep it straight and narrow.
Yeah, Chris, just as like a governor from here on out,
if you're like, that's really gonna upset Mike,
don't do it.
Just like don't, don't put me in that spot.
Just don't.
But if you know it's gonna annoy you, don't do that.
I will say. I'm not Dan, I'm not anybody, I'm asking spot. Just don't. But if you know what's going to annoy you, don't do that. I will say-
I'm not Dan, I'm not anybody.
I'm asking, please, don't.
Wait, Mike, are you saying that in the history of the show,
we're approaching the 20th year,
you have never done something knowingly
that was going to piss someone off?
No, no, no, I have.
And if I were actually doing that in that moment,
by all means, frame it that way.
But to frame it inaccurately is just total
on the show's part.
Oh, wait, being framed inaccurately,
that should be a sweet category.
Since that's what we do is give full context
on all these mistakes.
I do. You know what you did.
You know what you did.
Don't pretend like you don't know what you did.
I thought I knew you ripping Cristobal would be funny.
I will. Yeah, but I didn't.
I will say this, Mike.
You!
Is that it?
Out the gates, you had me saying F you,
and you make it seem like I'm just saying
to Mario Chris ball F you.
I didn't do that.
You didn't?
Exactly.
I'm legitimately asking.
Now I'm very confused.
Did we replay the tape?
I didn't.
I didn't.
I didn't.
And you guys know this.
It sounded like you.
Yeah, it did.
Did someone say something to you?
Did, like, what happened?
Guys, you guys think it's all cute.
Mike, I'll say this.
I was happy.
I was happy that it was included
because it reminded me to talk about
my Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets one more time.
How you like them jackets, huh?
Making people money, making the meme proud.
Was there any part of you that wanted to go to Dublin
for this game, a meme?
Go to Dublin, no.
No.
Why not?
Now you've gone too far.
No, no, no, no, no.
No, I don't, you know, I'm, look.
I go to one game a year.
I've gotta mentally prepare myself,
because as you guys know, I'm a super fan who,
most of the year, masquerades as someone
who doesn't give a shit.
So, in order for that one day a year where I have to actually project as my true self,
my true superfan self, I've got to prep for that.
I've got to do a little bit of homework, got to do a little research, and then I go and
I got to be surrounded with my friends that I went to college with because they provide
me with a lot of the research and information in order for me to present as a superfan I
truly am before I go back to being the fraud that I am order for me to present as a super fan I truly am
before I go back to being the fraud that I am
for the other 364 days a year.
Speaking of frauds.
Yeah, thanks.
US Open's about to start.
It is, well it started.
Or it started.
Yep, started.
Sure, there you go, frauds.
And Yannick Sinner, the world number one,
is playing despite testing positive for an anabolic
steroid.
For more on this, we go to our tennis correspondent, Michael Ryan Ruiz.
This was a massive scandal and it's got a lot of players upset.
And a lot of players are upset because of a double standard.
Now there is precedent for players being suspended for a long time when they have
this amount in their system. Now, to be clear, this was explained to me via Andy Roddick's podcast,
the amount that was found in his system was less than a grain of salt. And the defense,
so God's correct me if I'm wrong, is while receiving treatment on a table, Sinner had an open wound,
and one of the creams used as a topical cream
got into his bloodstream, and it had a banned substance in it.
And his trainer was using that cream
to treat something on his own body,
and it allegedly seeped through Yannick Sinner's skin,
and so then he tested for this infinitesimally small amount
of this band substance.
Which is in like the Italian version of Neosporin, right?
It has this anabolic steroid in it.
Right, but all this being said,
on the surface and how we're presenting it,
oh okay, that's good for Sinner, like this seems unfair
if he were to be banned, and the ruling was
he's allowed to continue to play, however. It seems unfair if you to continue to play however It seems unfair if you're buying a story it seems unfair if you're buying a story
There's a lot of circumstantial evidence that would suggest a lot of injuries that kind of correspond with some of the symptoms that go along with
This banned substance and a lot of former players that have been dinged for similar amounts wondering why the double standard
It's interesting. I mean and then he did the thing so I
the double standard. It's interesting, I mean, and then he did the thing. So I had no idea what they were putting on my body, which I highly doubt. I'm skeptical about that. And
then he fired the two people who have been with him the entire time while he's risen
to number one in the world. He fired two people who are a big part of his team.
That part I found very, very odd. By the way, he had his case go before a panel of three independent experts, two of whom
were unaware of his identity.
So they didn't even know who they were judging, and they found the explanation plausible that
the trainer had some on his hands and then they went into the wound and then later on
in the treatment session.
But I'm with Stugats like, hey man,
all right, my bad, like it's literally a microscopic amount,
you gonna fire me?
Well, that's what he tested positive for,
a microscopic amount, and there are people out there
on the internet theorizing, well there are masking agents
that could be at play, that this is the amount
that they found, but it may not be the amount
in their system also, leading to more circumstantial evidence is Yannick Sinner's rise to prominence to be the world number
one, the present number one seed in this. He's had a really good year. It's not like he came out of
nowhere. This was a prospect that people had high hopes. He was building, yeah. But he really turned
it on, probably ahead of where most people projected him at this point. So you have this guy really
ascend, you have injuries and circumstantial evidence mounting, and you have the fact that
you have precedent with other tennis players being punished for similar amounts, and you
wonder why is sinner allowed to do this. But you do have to credit, as you did, an independent
court, two of which didn't have any idea who he was,
decided that he wasn't guilty of purposefully doing this.
I like the idea by the way, real quick,
so we got to the two that didn't know who he was.
It wasn't that it was a blind taste test or whatever.
It was just like, so this is Yannick Sinner's sample.
And like, who the is Yannick Sinner?
Yeah, it's like Greg Cody, like I don't pay attention.
They were tennis fans.
But this is a big time scandal. And there was a lot of tennis players weighing in, and
you have the US Open going on right now, and he is the number one seed.
So it is a massive scandal in the world of tennis.
It gets down, I think, this is the interesting part of the story.
If you're the number one tennis player in the world, if you're a professional athlete,
aren't you aware of everything that's being put in
and on your body?
Are you telling me Sinner didn't realize this
until he tested positive?
He didn't know what they were putting on his body?
I do think that you trust your trainers
to adhere to guidelines.
You're also asking them to not only know
what's on the topical cream, every
ingredient that goes into that and if it's against the rules, but also to know, we don't
know like what the, I don't know what the wound looked like on his leg. It's possible
that he didn't know that he even had a wound on his leg.
Sure. But don't you think there's a conversation between player and team? Guys, here's the
band substance list. Don't put any of this on my body. That never happens?
Well, by the excuse, it wasn't even going on his body.
The trainer himself was treating himself.
And then this got into his system
because there was some residue.
Again, it was smaller than a grain of salt.
The idea is that the guy was working on something else,
hadn't washed his hands properly or whatever and then
started working. Secondhand smoke. Yeah a little bit of that. A lot of this kind of falls into that
tainted meat plausibility. Tainted meat, two of my favorite words. There are trace amounts in this
and it's a believable thing so people are wondering like is this going to be the new the new tainted
meat excuse?
This is the new, my dog ate my homework, right?
Like, my trainer didn't wash his hands.
Which I guess then.
I'd never heard this excuse before,
and maybe the first time that I heard tainted meat,
I kinda had a similar reaction,
like, I didn't know that was possible, okay, I guess.
And then everyone had tainted meat stories,
so I don't know if everyone's gonna have
open wound stories going forward.
The other thing is this, this anabolic steroid that's in this Italian Neosporin. Apparently,
this steroid is an over-the-counter drug in Italy. It's not, you know, it's very readily available,
so it's not like they went to some shady back alley guy to get this thing.
And Sinner is Italian.
And Sinner is Italian, despite a name that doesn't...
Doesn't protract. That's why I wanted to make that clear to the audience, because Yannick Sinner doesn't seem like is Italian. And Sinner is Italian, despite a name that. Doesn't, doesn't attract.
That's why I wanted to make that clear to the audience,
because Yannick Sinner doesn't seem like an Italian name.
Isn't he Northern Italian?
I also, isn't part of the controversy,
like the, they didn't make this public
until after the appeal and everything had been settled,
and a lot of tennis fans are irritated and annoyed,
and a lot of players are annoyed
that they just
found out about this, even though it happened in March, I would say.
That is probably the biggest reason as to why, because now all of this seems far too
convenient for Yannick Sinner. And the double standard isn't just in the punishment, but
it was how the secrecy was upheld. You can start seeing where the mind gravitates towards conspiracy theories new number one
We just made a brand new superstar
We're losing all these stars in the men's game and almost immediately you have guys like sinner and Alcaraz that they
Ascend to just pick up the slack almost immediately. That's how you do it
And it's awfully convenient in the eyes of many now Stu guys
I got some quotes for you hear from several people first of all from Dennis
Shappalov a Canadian player was scheduled to play in the first round on Monday where he played yesterday
Different rules for different players. I understand why he would say that I think that Nick Curios
We all know Nick low and love Nick Curios Miami Heat fan
Ridiculous whether it was accidental or planned. You get tested
twice with a banned substance you should be gone for two years. What two years? As
I like the Nick Curio dismissal here. And then this is from Sinner himself.
Obviously has been a very tough moment for me and my team. It still is. It's
quite fresh everything. I also know who is my friend and who is not my friend now,
because my friends know I would never do that.
Stugatz, do you like Kyrios's extreme dismissal?
Sadano asked if I may.
Remember when he tried to ban Rudy Gobert for causing COVID?
Yeah, for life.
Or do you like Yannick Sinner saying,
hey, at least now I know who's on my side and who's not?
I think when you're Sinner, that's one of the things you have to say because you're trying to convince everyone that you had no idea
This was an accident. So you have to say that's one of the staple things you say. It's kind of like a hot take, right?
Yeah, one of the things you have to say is you should be ashamed of yourself Or he had the audacity, right?
Those are keys to hot takes.
That's the key.
That's a counter.
Yes, yes.
Okay.
What Sinner is doing there is one of the keys to,
hey, I did it, but I didn't do it.
You know what I'm saying?
So I like Kyrgios because I do think,
first off, the rules should be the same for every player.
They really should be.
Those kind of rules, okay?
Within a team, if one quarterback could fall asleep
during the quarterback session and the backup can't and the
backup gets, you know, gets waved if he falls asleep. I
understand those rules being different, but these are general
rules to the sport. Right. And so I am with curious that if
he indeed tested positive and he did twice, he should be
suspended for longer. Yes. Wow.
Yeah.
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Don Lebatard you have some hot takes today Joe chestnuts a fire
He calls Connor McDavid overrated before the show
Yeah, no, I love it two guts Roy. Let me explain it to you
And not that you need to you know more about hockey and this is coming from a guy
That's watched Connor play six times right if that
You know more about hockey and this is coming from a guy that's watched Connor play six times right if that
This is the down Libertar show with his two guards
We have the Raheem most certain of you that's coming up a little bit later
So before we do that just to tee this conversation up this dolphins as conversation
Billy
You want the media to stop doing what with regards to the dolphins?
What I want them to start to just like let's drop the blind Brian floors to a thing if we can
Like we got that I think that this show started? Yeah, the problem that we started.
Let's kind of put that to rest if we can,
because I feel like now every time Tua talks,
they just ask him like follow-ups on Brian Flores.
But isn't this awful?
Like we ran with it for a week.
Oh yeah, no, it's 100% awful.
And now we're telling people it's too much.
I'm just saying, like you know,
let's not continue this distraction
that we ourselves cause,
because yesterday they asked two of like follow ups
because then Brian Flores commented.
So then like in a perfect world,
it's like, okay, well, that's the end of that.
But then the journalists decided to journalism
and now they're doing follow ups in two.
And I feel like this is gonna be continuing to be a thing.
So here's what two had to say yesterday.
You mentioned in your comments to Dan
how he was highly critical of you through that process and yet
there was I think somewhat of a surprise that he made the change when he did.
Why do you think that change to bench Ryan and insert you happened if he was so down
on you?
That's a great question.
I'm not going to answer that truthfully right now, but I think I know why.
But I won't speculate or give anyone any speculations on that.
Whatever you want to create to think, think that.
But other than that, I think that'll just stay here with the organization.
So he did learn his lesson a little bit.
He is done telling the truth.
That does seem like he's like, I saw what happened last time
I was really honest, so I'm just going to not this time.
Do you see the body language difference with you guys?
Arm around Chris, legs sprawl.
If I was there playing with my drawstrings,
he would have answered that question.
It was a comfy couch, too.
I mean. He was all stiff.
I guess he kind of diffused it, but there are ways to answer that question to further
ensure that you won't be asked similar questions.
That door is still open.
Yeah, but that's not our fault.
That's his.
No, that's what I'm saying.
He left the door open.
Well, ultimately it's our fault for starting the problem.
For asking a question?
He went into that interview with intent,
and so that question honestly.
Right, but Billy, you're saying you want journalists
to stop asking him about this?
Correct, yes.
I want journalism to stop in this.
I think you get a chance to end it right there.
Let's just focus on the football season
that's about to start, please.
Why do you, why is that?
Why do you, what's the, this is interesting.
No, no, no, no.
What's interesting is winning a playoff game.
None of this nonsense.
You don't want any distraction?
No distractions. Let's interesting is winning a playoff game. None of this nonsense. You don't want any distractions.
No distractions.
Let's put those blinders on.
Let's get focused up on this season.
Right.
If the Dolphins don't play well, are you gonna blame Dan?
Ooh.
Yes.
Oh, that feels like a no-brainer.
Yes.
It's gotta be Dan's fault.
You know why I know it's Dan's fault?
Because the question asked, they didn't say
on the Dan LeBretard show
Said with Dan. Yes one name like well like it's Selena
Here's the share Selena. Here's the Gomez. Here's the issue. That's confusing is
According to Stephen a Dan was a Dolphins plant, right? Yes
So if Dan was a Dolphins plant in this situation
Do we blame Dan or do we blame someone from within the Dolphins plant, right? So if Dan was a Dolphins plant in this situation, do we blame Dan or do we blame someone
from within the Dolphins organization
for throwing off this season?
So is Dan, hold on, wait, is Dan a pawn in a grander scheme?
That's what I'm wondering, and who is it?
Who planted him?
Who planted him?
Roger Goodell.
I thought we did that, the whole thing.
Well, he started with the Josh Norman hug.
And the Draft King.
But if you believe what Stephen A. is saying,
I think, Billy, this is the way it goes down,
someone from the Dolphins or two as Kent
would have to reach out to Dan.
That's the way it would work.
I think we have this all backwards.
Remember when David Sampson said that the thing he hated
the most when he was the president of the Marlins
was when the other teams in South Florida were successful?
Do we think that Pat Riley has now infiltrated Dan's brain
to get the Dolphins to be worse,
so that people will be excited about the heat again?
Wow.
That's a great theory.
This is how inside jobs happen.
Yeah, that'll be great.
We're looking in the wrong place.
We're looking at the Dolphins,
we should be looking at the heat.
Wow, and he's known to carry water for the Miami Heat. Yeah, that's a good point.
Unbelievable.
I just blew this thing open.
Right in front of us the whole time.
It was another off season where they struck out.
You feel like the end of the usual suspects
where he's looking at all the stuff on the bulletin board.
And no one's talking about how the Heat
struck out.
Cole Swider got away.
It's amazing.
Now we're just sending my dad there.
Number one Dolphins guy is going to the heat. Do we put him in a losing spot?
Do I kind of feel like no quite the opposite? Okay, he's in a position of power. All right
I feel better now, but he's also a pawn the spots irrelevant. It's just a look over here. Look over here
We're all pawns. Don't you see?
Did he put that thing on my social media
so I would see it, so that I would send my,
now I'm feeling like I'm being played.
Who gave you the drawstrings?
Damn it.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.
It's like a gift on the Miami.
The bald guy from security.
Ha ha ha ha.
The fixer.
Can I be chumlee?
Bernie was in this studio a few months ago.
Which Bernie?
Oh, that's a mascot.
I hate mascots.
What other ones did you think I was talking about?
I'm in too deep, I've already said too much.
I've already said too much.
There's another Bernie.
Bernie Cotzart.
Pat Riley was inside Bernie
and whispered his instructions to Dan
so there'd be no paper trail, no text trail.
I thought it was odd that he had Gucci loafers on.
Yeah, Parmily?
This is all making sense now.
You're gonna go in a buffalo with Bernie Parmily?
Ah, I miss Greg.
Wow, it's all coming together, folks.
This is crazy.
Mike, I have, there's no way to transition out of that,
but I have an uncomfortable amount of money
on the hurricanes this weekend.
Don't put that on me for just this game.
Don't put that on me.
I am putting it on you.
I think I've been.
No, you sold me.
You keep saying that I've sold you.
I think I've been super chill, and I actually think Saturday
is going to be a close game.
Mike's made me nervous for UM on this,
because he's talked about how it's like
the most important game in history.
Like I'm not even a diehard UM fan
and I'm nervous for UM.
By the way, I saw an interview with Steve Spurrier
hit YouTube and he said that this is the most important
Gators game since 1988.
Ah, classical ball coach.
I mean, no, but Mike, I am nervous because combination,
okay, you have sold me on Cam Ward, you have
sold me on how good the off season has been.
I'm just saying, you've told me they're talented.
Yeah, I mean, Cam Ward's a proven commodity.
I don't need to tell you how good Cam Ward is.
You can watch him at Washington State and it's been a good off season in talent acquisition.
A lot of people have, they've been the popular pick to win the ACC.
Greg McElroy, I think, does a great job with his podcast, very insightful. He picked the Can pick to win the ACC. Greg McElroy, I think, does a great job with his
podcast. Very insightful. He picked the Canes to win the ACC. Yeah, there's a lot of hype, but
what I would say is, there's a heavy public road favorite. And two years ago, granted they had
an NFL quarterback under center, Billy Napier beat a Utah program that was humming because of that
atmosphere. It's one of the best atmospheres in college sports. The longer that Florida is in that game,
if say Damian Martinez runs 60 yards first snap, then we're good, right? But you
give that crowd a reason to believe and no Miami players have really
experienced that atmosphere as a collective, as a unit. This is quite the
jump up for a team that has been
disappointing over the last few years. And by the way, a team and a program that has never missed
an opportunity to miss an opportunity. They have, they have, anytime there's been like six seasons
over the last 20 years where they've entered a season with lofty expectations and been a, a
vogue top 10 pick and they always disappoint. 2017 they were a miraculous team,
a bit of a fraud but no one had high expectations for that.
So they always find a way to disappoint.
If I weren't so close to it,
the money that you do just on principle,
the bet that you place is the home dog,
Florida in this spot.
Now, Stugats, you said you made a massive bet.
How massive of a bet did you make?
A lot of money.
Hey, you don't ask someone that.
No?
Is that football?
It's Canes minus two on the road.
It's a combination of, I do believe in what Mike is saying
about the Canes roster, and I don't believe in Napier
or the Florida Gators.
That's fair.
That's fair.
I think they have a lot of question marks
on the right side of their line.
I think Mertz is probably underrated.
He's been a good quarterback for them
and he plays within the offense,
probably a little conservative, but that'll play.
If they make mistakes, then the momentum can get running.
But I think that everything about this Miami hurricane season
really hinges on that game at Florida
because the schedule certainly opens up for Miami
if they win this one.
Mike, I got November 2nd, circled on my calendar.
Miami vs. Duke.
Manny Diaz revenge game.
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