The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz - The Big Suey: Who's the Apollo Creed in That Book?

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

Stugotz can't believe LeBron is still playing basketball on Sunday nights, Chris Cote has been hate-watching NBA basketball, and Mike Ryan is furious we didn't lead the show with Miami and Rueben "Hur...ricane" Bain's win over Virginia. Then, the Francis Ngannou vs. Tyson Fury fight may have been a huge step for the sport of boxing. Plus, it's time for the Climate Stat of the Day, and have the Kansas City Chiefs failed Patrick Mahomes? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You're listening to Giraffe King's Network. Welcome to the big suite presented by Giraffe King. Why are you listening to this show? The podcast that seems very similar to the other Dan Levitard podcast. I'm sorry, I'm not going to apologize for that. In fact, the only difference seems to be this imaging. I have been tempted in restaurants, just walking past tables to grab somebody's fries
Starting point is 00:00:33 that if they're just there. That hasn't happened to you guys. I've done it. And now, here's the marching man to nowhere, that face and the habitual liar. I wanted to talk to God's because I see after just a couple of games into the basketball season, I saw a little spark in Chris Cody and Mike Ryan early season basketball. We've talked for a few years about fanwiz to God's.
Starting point is 00:01:00 There's just so much going on in sports. You've got to choose. You can't care deeply about everything and have a life. There's that LeBron was playing somewhere on Sunday night. You know what, I'm glad you brought that up. He's still doing that. I cannot believe that he's still doing it. It's a Sunday night, okay?
Starting point is 00:01:17 I'm certain the guy wants to be home. He wants to be watching Sunday night football. He is still trotting out there on a Sunday night. Playing games, 39 minutes. A game that went into overtime and I think at 29 points, 10 assists, eight rebounds, new triple doubles, something like that. He's still trotting out there on a Sunday night playing 39 minutes against the Kings. What's it going to stop? Are you advocating for LeBron to just stay at home to watch Sunday night football certain games?
Starting point is 00:01:45 I just marvel at the guy. I appreciate the guy that he is still doing this at 39 years of age. He is still willing to go out on a Sunday night. I don't know why I'm pointing out Sunday night. I'm pointing out Sunday night. It's a weekend to Sunday night. People like to have dinner. They like to be home.
Starting point is 00:01:59 You know, he doesn't work at night. I know. He doesn't have a normal. I don't care. Sunday nights are meant for a family dinner at Sunday night football. Load management for just in 95. Yeah, I know. He doesn't have a normal kid. I don't care. Sunday nights are meant for a family dinner at Sunday night football. Load management for just for Sundays. Yeah, I mean, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:02:10 He's trotting out there on a Sunday night where he should be home with a family. Stop saying Sunday night. Having a little dinner with the kids, and he's playing the Kings, he's playing 39 minutes. This is a win. I mean, take. Because now you're anti-load management.
Starting point is 00:02:22 The easy way for you to go today is why should be butler taking the third game of the season off. What are we doing there with the toughest condition? Hardest working blah blah blah blah blah, Closer thing. And then the third game of the season like, and it just says rest.
Starting point is 00:02:35 High-tired rest. And then LeBron is out there playing and you're like, he shouldn't be playing. He should be resting. He should be eating dinner. Why does everything have to be a take? I am just marveling at the greatness and longevity of LeBron James. That's all I'm doing.
Starting point is 00:02:46 Adam Silver had a press conference. It said, you know what we're going to do? We're playing again. These, uh, these DMP minute restriction rest things are going to end. And like Bradley Beale is sitting and Jimmy Butler is sitting the third game of this season. It's the same thing. But you want to talk about LeBron James and he posted this photo because even for him doing something athletic, I mean, we're pretty numb to it. But at his age being the oldest player in the league, he shared this photo on social media, him stealing of all those intended for Kevin Durant. That's Wembon Yamma type of physics right there. doesn't make sense and he's doing that as he oldest
Starting point is 00:03:28 Player in the league. So yeah, I'll give him a little bit of credit for playing We'll we'll get back to that in a second him trotting out there on a Sunday night when he should be having dinner with his family But the the first two games of the season the Lakers when he was on the floor for 64 minutes, were plus 20 when he was off the floor for 32 minutes because they were limiting his minutes. They were minus 52.9. The idea that the oldest player and league after 20 years can still be better, can still be a top 10 player is Asinine. Like that does it for all the things he's done in his career.
Starting point is 00:04:05 The idea that they would be a legitimate contender this year, just because he's going to be their best player because he needs to be a good deal better than Anthony Davis. And that might make them a contender. I think Mike's point is an interesting one when he talks about load management, those two guys, because it seems pretty obvious based on last year that Jimmy
Starting point is 00:04:25 Butler's economy at this point in his career is get me to maximum strength for the last 20 games so the wheels don't fall off the last four of those 20 games because I go from being Michael Jordan to I can't get through the playoffs. The whole thing is built to if this is the way they're going to be built, if they're not going to get any of the whales, if it's just get better around Jimmy Butler, then the whole season is going to track science, nutrition, game management, all of it to how is Jimmy the strongest, the last 20 games? That's all that matters.
Starting point is 00:04:57 And I don't know how you make the regular season matter from theirs to God's when the heat just showed you as an eight seed. Just Jimmy's got to be right for 20 games. I understand where you're coming from and where the heat's coming from and proof is in the pudding, but the NBA did prioritize this. Joe Dumors was out there touting the metric set. It actually doesn't help injuries in any way,
Starting point is 00:05:17 playing more is fine and you owe it to your fan base to actually have your stars show up. I'm sure Minnesota, who is chaining where is Jimmy at the end of that game, would have loved to have seen it and considering the loss, he fans would have probably liked to have seen him suit up too. I do think that we're almost at a breaking point when it comes to this sport. And so far, the NBA players and these teams have called the NBA's bluff when it comes to this. But Mike, this is their one store, their loan store, Jimmy Butler. Maybe, bam, you want to say BAM, that's fine, but he's their loan store.
Starting point is 00:05:48 So the importance for Jimmy Butler are being healthy going to the postseason is far more important for the heat than it is. Let's say Jalen Brown for the Celtics. The Celtics have four other great players. I mean, I know that's starting lineup is ridiculous. I know the data is skewed and you can play with numbers and the NBA wants to tell us a certain story and you can make numbers work for you in that respect. But when it comes to resting players, the fan and me see, oh, proof in the pudding, he make the finals because they manage these
Starting point is 00:06:17 minutes. But if you have data that suggests, this actually doesn't help and all it does, it makes fans that spent money on tickets upset subset, then yeah, go out there and play. I've honestly been paying more attention to the teams like involved with all these trades around the heat more than the heat early. I've been hate watching basketball like this. But this is averaging eight points a game and I'm like, yeah, you see, Chris should take a taller hero. Chris, this is where I wanted to head with all of this.
Starting point is 00:06:44 He was never on the table, according to Pat. Because this made this made its way into the weekend. And this is how the heat would be able to steal some of the attention that will go to limited fan with. Because it's a lot, man. And if one of the things that gets you to pay attention to the early season heat, when we're telling you in game three, it doesn't actually matter. And they're going to be load managing all season. The way to do it is,
Starting point is 00:07:08 oh, I'm interested in the bucks when Lillard scores 39 or goes two for 12 and they are losing by 30, two games into the season. You were hate watching the bucks, weren't you? That first game was tough to watch. Oh my god. He was great. Yeah. Last game when he was terrible. A little better, a little better. I mean, he was really bad. He had as many turnovers as he had point six of each. I needed that. He fans needed that game. Yeah. And also, I will say that I know even in that 39 point game, that's exactly what Yonness needs. Defensively, turn style. Maxi was cooking them the entire night. So yeah, I'm watching through the prison of well now that we don't have them. I hope he really falls off. Still hate with love, hate with passion. Somehow the heat weren't somehow. The heat were not interesting
Starting point is 00:07:55 enough to you to get your attention during the last regular season. It couldn't, it wasn't checked out on them. For all the homer's shit that I get hit with. There was in a bigger anti-heat voice last season and they made me look like a fool. But I'm doing it again. Why did it not that? Why did Zaganki just make an aboo? There's only one more thing. Touchdown.
Starting point is 00:08:16 What a great call by Joseph. Oh, that was a lot of work. Yeah, it was awesome. But hey, Miami won't talk about him. Right, well, let's do that. Well, let's do that. I was so close to having a date with Tony Elliott. No, Mike, I will talk about them. Right. Well, let's do that. Well, let's go. I was so close to having a date with Tony Elliott. No, Mike, I will talk about them, even though,
Starting point is 00:08:28 even though the last couple of games have been over, you knew that over time victories. God bless football has a trend going of bringing on the coach that has broken Mike's heart. I mean, how many straight weeks did you do it? Just to bring me lost bringing. Okay, but the last couple of games that we should give the University of Miami because we pounced on them The last two games they beaten Clemson at overtime with their backup quarterback and they beat Virginia
Starting point is 00:08:55 I don't think Virginia's any good, but Virginia did do that at North Carolina Miami was a big favorite barely one and there are a million reasons people are going to get frustrated with Mario Cristobal, including in town, you've got to coach you super aggressive in the pro level. Super, super aggressive, teaching you what offense can be. And you've got a great offensive line. Bendag's got plenty of time to throw, Stu. Guys, they've got a quarterback problem. I didn't think they were going to have a quarterback problem. I did not think they were going to have a quarterback problem. That team could be better if he were better. And he's making bad interceptions with plenty of time. Maybe there are more quarterbacks around the league,
Starting point is 00:09:29 around all of college football that are getting more time than Van Dyke, but he's protected. He's got time, and it may be a failure of his receivers, but he's making some bad decisions as well. His receivers are getting open. He has all the time in the world. And I told you it before the season,
Starting point is 00:09:44 I mean, when once I point back to Tyler Van Dyke a two years ago and retlashley's offense led by Jalen Knighton scored 69 points over the weekend for SMU. I'm not I don't want to see the Tyler Van Dyke from two years ago I want to see the Tyler Van Dyke from the first four games of this season that that would to me was a new model and I told you before the season I'm kind of not all in on TVD because he's a type of quarterback that needs everything to go right for him. And that includes health. And he's banged up. I know he was wearing a brace. He took a hard shot at North Carolina. He played well in North Carolina, I think. He plays better on the road. It would appear. But yeah, he's locked in. It was primary read. And it's always Restrepo. Restrepo was
Starting point is 00:10:21 a read on that first interception. and he under threw it by five yards. It's a, they have to fix this with a quarterback because my entire adult life, Miami does not win the game that they won the last two weeks, getting that from the quarterback position. And I know, Sioux Gatz, I have already read your observations and you want to kill Miami for winning, I'm not apologizing for winning because Miami always loses that game. You're over your improvement, surviving that from your quarterback, that's an impressive win. Maybe he just needs some like crowd noise
Starting point is 00:10:50 to play better. Maybe it's too quiet at home. Mike Ryan is again dressed like an athletic trainer today, head to toe, head to toe with his University of Miami gear. He was the whole UM women's basketball team. It was the coolest story as we've got in town. He was at highlight with them on Friday. He is a full on booster and athletic trainer
Starting point is 00:11:14 and journalist on the inside. Seems like a conflict, but regardless, Dan, as you're a question, just to answer your question, we had Brent Key, the head coach of Georgia Tech, after the Cain's lost to them on that final play. And then we had Brent Key, the head coach of Georgia Tech, after the Keynes lost to them on that final play, and then we had Mac Brown on after they lost to USC.
Starting point is 00:11:30 But here's the thing, the curse of God bless football is back, Mike should be happy because Mac Brown and Carolina went out and they lost right after he came on with us. I don't think God bless football has anything to do with what Mac Brown always does. Oh, no, no, no. That's right. God bless football responsible for all wins and losses all over the universe. Put it on the pole. Please, Jude, you're at Levitard show one last thing because this is the first time I'm
Starting point is 00:11:51 allowed to talk Miami hurricane's football in the last two weeks. I would love to give some shine to Ruben hurricane Bay. You know what? Hold on just to say because he might be the best defensive lineman in the nation. And he's a true freshman. Mike, I, I, I will, he's been wanting to talk about this nonstop for, for months. No, that's all I wanted to say. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's, it's fun when we lose.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Hold up, Mike. I'm going to endorse you. I'm going to endorse you on this. It was fun to watch Ruben Bain on Saturday, take Virginia linemen and throw them back with their arms waving because he's very strong and fast. Like he's, it is fairly ridiculous to see how quickly he gets through the line.
Starting point is 00:12:40 And people are backing away from him as if something's exploded at their feet like it's, he is exceptional, clearly. line and people are backing away from him as if something's exploded at their feet like it's he is exceptional clearly. Ruben Bain and Mark Fletcher and Mauro Gola these are players why you have to you have to and eighty million dollars as well why you have to believe in the darkness yet? Don Lebatard! Fall the rain drops for lemon drops and gun drops Oh what a rain that would be
Starting point is 00:13:11 Stugats standing outside with my mouth open wide If fall the rain drops for lemon drops and gun drops Oh what a rain that would be. This is the Don Lebertar Show with this two-gats. We will get to all of the college football and professional football that are part of our Monday. Not good for you, congested digestive system, just belching out football on a Monday. Because it's one of the few common grounds we all have in America today. Certainly the people listening to this can't get enough football. But before I
Starting point is 00:13:56 get to the football, I don't want to just skip past a sports story from the weekend because boxing doesn't matter the way that it used to in this country because they've distorted it with a bunch of balls and circus freak fights and Conor McGregor being carried around the ring by Floyd Mayweather who said this weekend in some video that I saw that he now owns nine skyscrapers in New York. Don't think that's true. I'm guessing he's getting dividends from a company or from from from a place where many people are able to buy skyscrapers, but he's done very well for himself because he was first to, nah, I'll keep all my own shit, all my own pay per view. I'll be a
Starting point is 00:14:36 just business mercenary and that's fine. 50 cent can make fun of me because I'm illiterate, but I'm going to be in the golden age ahead of everyone in sports at making money on my name and keeping that money. Not sharing it with Dana White, not sharing it with the networks, just having allies, Floyd Mayweather conquered the sport, and then people watched the circus freak fight of Conor McGregor, and that wasn't a real thing. But this weekend, Stu Gats, because boxing in this country used to be boxing, if the giants are going at it, everyone in America is watching.
Starting point is 00:15:13 It is the event in sports. That's what used to be. But in Saudi Arabia, you had in Ghana and Fury, and I don't know if people have been paying attention, but the Clitch goes were great champions, not goods to got great champions dominated heavyweight boxing and people lost interest because they weren't from here. We didn't have people from here, we didn't have interesting personalities. Tiante Wilder wasn't enough.
Starting point is 00:15:39 Tyson Fury is a beast. He conquered those two beasts who are now fighting in Ukraine. He conquered the heavyweight division are now fighting you. Crane. He conquered the heavyweight division and has been a great champion. I don't know if he underestimated in Ghana, but what in Ghana did in that fight was stunning to me as somebody who knows that you don't take a punch and fall down. There was no carrying in Ghana around the ring at the center of that ring. Fury told Angano, time to take you to school. And then Fury went down and Angano stood over him and yelled, you're a bad professor.
Starting point is 00:16:14 You're who's taking who to school now? And if Angano was a more experienced fighter, he would have ended that fight there or he would have ended it later with body shots. But he's not experienced yet. But holy shit. That guy won in every way over the weekend because he got out from under Dana White, out from under the business, and now it make it his own money. And Tyson Fury will have to seriously train for the next time he fights him because he's
Starting point is 00:16:37 got the punching power and the chin to stand somehow toe to toe with a great heavyweight champion. But not in every way. I mean, he lost the fight every way, but that one, right? That's the important thing. That's the war. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I feel kind of icky after the fight. The whole thing kind of felt icky, you know, Tessitor constantly calling the leader of Saudi Arabia, his excellency.
Starting point is 00:16:57 Joe Tess. That felt a little weird. And then at the end, Inganu not upset seemingly about the result. It just felt like I know boxing with the fixes in, but it felt weird with how Ingano just took the loss. I didn't see it, because he got a knockdown. I don't know. I don't know the way boxing scoring works, but I thought it's 10-8 there,
Starting point is 00:17:17 but the rest of the fight, I mean, look, it was a split decision and it wasn't horribly referee, but one judge had it had the fight for in Ghana when the other two judges had it for Fury but the point was that he stood with him and he knocked him down and that wasn't fake. The way Tyson Fury's face looked after the fight that's not fake. I understand where Chris is coming from but maybe what's going through in Ghana's mind is where he's been. Everyone knows about his story. He was unhoused in France and where he's been. Everyone knows about his story. He was on housed in France.
Starting point is 00:17:45 And maybe he's looking at that moment. It's like, I just won. I just won. And I don't have to worry about Dana White's $50,000 bonus here. I just got a bag. But he lost. And he secured and like his, he performed so well
Starting point is 00:17:59 that he'll get more fights. So that's probably where he's thinking there. Like if he embarrasses himself there, he probably doesn't get other fights. Now he's going to get more. I don't want to say because of the construct and the evolution of one of the things Mike was talking about last week, which is famous, the new good, that the big boxing fights have been circus things. They haven't been fights because you care about boxing. And I don't want to say in Ghana who skips the line here because his story is crazy. This is one of the toughest human stories you will ever hear in sports, what he has overcome.
Starting point is 00:18:30 And Dana White tried to bleep him, like really tried to put him under the thumb, the way he's got John Jones under his thumb, the way he is conspired with everyone in business to hold fighters down and squeeze the income out of them, as some of them live in their cars, and gotta escape the thicket of that system, and just cut the line straight to the top of the heavyweight box office from the other sport because of his showing in that fight.
Starting point is 00:18:58 Like you, and it's one of the few boxing things, like you can quibble about the micro things. You didn't like the judging or whatever, but what you can't quibble with is that dude just wanted business. That guy just secured himself because he's gonna get to keep all of the money from now on on his two or three next fight. And he's gonna do the Floyd May weather stuff. I went exactly the way that you would want in that.
Starting point is 00:19:20 I didn't watch this fight, middle of the afternoon, college football season, it's just not gonna work for me. You'll watch it, that's what? Unlike everybody that was tweeting about boxing, saying, this is why I don't watch boxing, I kinda got to that point and I legit don't watch boxing. But that's not fairly recently, and what I do recall from my time watching boxing
Starting point is 00:19:38 is, doesn't really rain through everybody. And if people are saying online that this guy beat him and it's a controversial split decision, I'm interested now because Ingunu did what a lot of people said, which is if someone that big with that punching power hits you, you're gonna go down. And he made Fury go down. And if you look at the list of heavyweights right now, the fight you want to see next is actually this guy that came over from the UFC and didn't box before going in with the boxer of his generation. It's a pretty great story. You had Fury before the fight talking about how he trained with beers and burgers for
Starting point is 00:20:15 this. And then in like about the eighth round, I'm thinking probably not a good choice to do that. Well, a cool thing that I saw from the highlights and what I again, I did not watch the fight. So there is a me, there is an element of me beessing through this. But what I had heard from people that did watch the fight was usually when the box or ties you up, that's a bit of a break for the box or, but he gets into a tie up. And in God who's initiating offense off breaking it up because he's manhandling him with
Starting point is 00:20:41 his strength. And the deeper that that fight went the difference in conditioning started becoming apparent. Not just that because clearly those are two very different 270 pound people. And Nganu took an elbow, I mean Tyson Fury. Tyson Fury doesn't get manhandled. He keeps people at a distance to got the aunt and wilders said to be the biggest puncher in the history of the sport.
Starting point is 00:21:06 And Tyson Fury can keep him at a distance. But Deontay Wilder is not the size of Angano. And Angano's strength, I don't think people understand this. Do you understand what his stamina has to be in that sport to be a heavyweight going into his, into the late rounds. Like this, this is where the mixed martial arts can meet and Tyson Fury can underestimate this human being. Who's like, still got this, this is the Rocky story where Tyson Fury has gotten to the top of the mountain.
Starting point is 00:21:36 He said Rocky one. Tyson Fury is the king. You should like this because. He lost the first one, Mike. I know, you're right. Tyson Fury is the king of heavyweight fighting. He's got a reality show on Netflix. It's super interesting.
Starting point is 00:21:49 It'll take you in the mind and into the life of somebody who's dealing with mental illness by his own admission. They'll fight again for sure. For sure. He matches. And it'll be a huge fight for a guy who will keep his business part of this, which is really is fascinating to me as a victory.
Starting point is 00:22:05 But this, I don't know if this is Mr. T, it's probably Mr. T. Rocky. Fury is fat and happy training with beers and burgers doing a reality show. And Ghanu is coming from Africa and homelessness into the heavyweight sphere, which is, to God's, these are the toughest people with the most desperation. The people who arrive at the top of boxing, because they don't have any other options, and they got to fight other human beings for money. Tyson Fury has gotten to fame and celebrity,
Starting point is 00:22:36 and in Ghanu's fighting for something on behalf of other fighters, and Ghanu's fighting on behalf of, no, you can do this if you bet on yourself, and you get out from under the grip of how dirty these businesses are I mean boxing Stagats is worse than all of them mixed martial arts worse than all of them in terms of how poorly they treat the fighters You're saying who is clubber laying which one and ghanu? I'm saying this is this is important. Yes Yes, that is you remember Rocky didn't prepare for his first fight with club or lying because club or lying
Starting point is 00:23:08 Accidentally killed his trainer Mickey and then Rocky once he got past the fear the speech on the beach by Adrian One of the great speeches of all time in the history of moviemaking Then Rocky like a light went off and he went back to basics. He trained with a polo came back and then he took care Mr. T Jessica, I need to engage you here because this is, yeah, well, yeah. By the way, training Rocky, training Rocky seems to be a dangerous job. Say no to that if it ever becomes available. Yeah. That's a work out for Apollo and four.
Starting point is 00:23:39 Spoiler alert. Bert Young passed away recently. I don't know. I didn't even get to talk about that goodness it's three now this is a trend but still only looks better than ever i saw him on the list of the right is i don't understand expandables for he does that for hundred he doesn't look ridiculous he looks like he'd be nice he belongs next to stathan i thought i didn't make sense how old is that man? Isn't he Bobby's age?
Starting point is 00:24:05 How is Sylvester Stallone still clearly a movie star? How many surgeries is that? 77 years old. Not 77, I saw you say. I saw you say a year old. The number of surgeries. Yeah. Jessica, this is the Stugatz Wheel.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Each of you, each buggy. You want to see throughout of his balcony and the show. Anytime I want to talk about boxing for the last 20 years. You brought up Mr. T and he does his rocket. It's the only reference point he has. He offers me nothing else, but he loves to talk about it. It's my fault.
Starting point is 00:24:32 It's my fault. I should know better by now. But how are you experiencing him going through the storyline of Rocky, which is the only language he has for boxing for 20 years? If I'm being honest, I've been reading Bill Connelly's at some P plus college football week nine review. There's a five way tie right now for first place in the big 12
Starting point is 00:24:52 because of the Kansas Oklahoma game. But I can continue with the rock. No, no, we have to get to college football. Well, cats are always in that conversation, huh? Who's the Apollo Creed in that book? Rocky Top. We will get to football and think Bill Connelly wants to read it every week. A book a week. Who's the club
Starting point is 00:25:16 relaying in that conference? Yeah. Bingo. Watch out for the pokes. Jessica, he's referencing movies from 30 years ago and you have no reference 50 years ago at this point. You said Mr. T, it is, it's my fault. Yes, it is. I did, I brought it up. I was trying to speak a language he understands. He did. Where's Kansas?
Starting point is 00:25:41 Oh, Kansas. Don Lebatard. I think I'd like to know when I'm going to die because I sort of romanticized the idea of like living like you were dying. When you're on a countdown clock, imagine all the life experiences. Like I could go skydiving or Rocky Mountain climbing. Stugats!
Starting point is 00:25:56 Roy brings up a point though. Like Roy does bring up a point. Like you might be risking paralysis in this. It's totally correct. Just totally a triangle, my bitch. But like what if God forbid, it says you're gonna die in the car, guys? What if it says a week though, like,
Starting point is 00:26:09 or two days or a month? I don't wanna know that. Well, then you just love deeper and speak sweeter and give forgiveness to those that you've been denying. Someday, I hope you get the chance to live like you were dying. Do you have more, is that it? No, thank you guys for letting me go through that smoothly
Starting point is 00:26:26 VCC down lebertar show with this to got I We're all gonna die The oceans are all burning We were unable to procure and get to travel the $6.3 million animated face that was accompanying this horrifying climate fact of the day. But I walked in today, Stugots, and I asked sort of incredulously, did everyone see what happened to Ocopoco? And no one had seen it, Stugat.
Starting point is 00:27:27 And what happened in Acapulco is a tropical storm. People were warned, hey, a tropical storm is not something too terrible and in 12 hours it increased in speed so fast that it became a category five hurricane and wiped out. Like there are bodies and just wiped out a place that didn't have warning, the kind of normal warning that we have for these things that allow us to evacuate and now a place a populist certainly at least that people have heard of.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Like this, some of this stuff has been happening been six hurricanes going on at the same time around the world recently. Like it's been happening because it's six hurricanes going on at the same time around the world recently. Like it's been happening because it doesn't happen here to places that we care about or to people that we care about. Like if one of this apocalypse is hit someone you care about, their life is going to be ruined. Right. You'll start to care.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Correct. But to have something go from a tropical storm to a cat-five that quickly, that is scary. It's never happened before. That's scary. That's pretty quick. And we reside in a place where storms get really powerful really fast. And across the Gulf, everyone should be getting used to that because they get microwaved over there.
Starting point is 00:28:39 But 12 hours usually they'll tell you, hey, especially 48 hours from now, cat two, cat three, you know, five days from now, maybe a cat five. Especially in part of the world that doesn't have to deal with that all the time. Like, where you should have it immobilized quickly for strong storms, not acapulco. This is the new normal, I would say, and I don't mean to be alarmist or fear monger.
Starting point is 00:29:01 That was not, it's not illegitimate. I know many of you do not think that one of the world's funniest people is making impending doom funny for us because poured himself into don't look up a movie meant to point out to everybody, hey, we're doing some really stupid, stupid shit and these storms are going to come to houses near you soon because is that fear mongering? Like it seems just obvious if it happens in a couple of of polls, it's reality.
Starting point is 00:29:27 But I kind of want to detach a little bit. I would really love to talk about the games today. You know what my fear is? It's like getting that what Magic Johnson got in Hawaii, that alert that saw him show up in a bunker because I think my phone's gonna go off because the world's gonna end at any second. You have the climate stuff, you have
Starting point is 00:29:49 international political relations, you have very easily. The Doom's 8 o'clock is approaching. A match shooting in Maine. Yeah, it's just it's just all bad. It's all bad. And one of my big viewers is being jogged out of my sleep at 3 a.m. With a phone alert that I can shut off telling me to take cover. So AJ Brown. Six straight now 125 Julio Joe's no AJ Brown. AJ Brown but he's back. It's six straight games 125 plus Calvin Johnson did it five straight times You don't get this kind of dominance where
Starting point is 00:30:25 someone is manhandling defensive backs because he's too big, strong and fast. This is not something you get from the wide receiver positions. Do you got Jalen to her? It has a wonderful skill set, but right now he's throwing to a Randy Moss type of receiver. Sure. Can't be covered by two guys. Can't be covered by one guy. It's just bigger and stronger than the people He's going up again. He has six consecutive games of 125 yards plus which is better than any six games band Jerry Rice ever had in his career and Still less yards an entire kill. I know you can make a legit argument though that to re kill or a J brown Should be the NFL MVP. You have made both of those you have made now
Starting point is 00:31:04 We are we are not even into the second hour of the show. I'm just saying, it should be said, okay, on all platforms on every show. To re kill deserves to be the MVP of the NFL. He does. Okay. And so does A.J. Brown. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:31:22 That's fine. That's good. He should be in the conversation. To re kill should win it. Stugants. He should be in the conversation. Tariqil should win it. Stugant. He should win it. I don't really want to have an M. Hey, Tariqil off the dolphin. Tell me what you think the record would be.
Starting point is 00:31:30 I thank you. I you really want the MVP wasn't just humans because the touch push would be the MVP. We can agree on that. Billy, did you stop? Did you see it was stopped and then they came up with an audible like a little evolution of the touch push. Yeah. Man, that that seems unstoppable. What was your reaction when it was stopped and then they came up with an audible like a little evolution of the Tursuit. Yeah, man. That that seems unstoppable. What was your reaction when it was stopped? I was like what? Well, they just messed it up. They messed the same. Fumble. Still I was like what?
Starting point is 00:31:54 But then I saw what Swift did and they ran out of it. I'm like, oh, what's she do? If you got it? Did you see Denver played Taylor Swift songs loud at the end of that game to, come on, Denver, you gave up 70 early this season. You cannot taunt anybody. Yes, you can. Yes, they can. They should be celebrating this like it's their two songs.
Starting point is 00:32:14 They've lost 16 straight times. Again, another point for. Yeah. They beat the chiefs. Right. They enjoy where you can find it. Yep. Russell Wilson. Oh, Yep. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Russell Wilson. Not terrible. He's been. No, he's been good this season. He's been all right. Yeah. Good for him. But they gave up 70.
Starting point is 00:32:33 So they did the chiefs, you know, bad game. Yeah, exactly. That's what I'm talking about. You said they beat the chiefs, do you guys? I want to go over something here with you because they did beat the chiefs, but clearly, right? This was a funny conversation before the game with me and Mike. They're arguing because you can't trust the chiefs to cover.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Nobody wants to bet against the chiefs because you're scared of them scoring 35. Of course. Nobody wants to, but also you bet on them and they have these huge lines and they don't cover as much as they should, but you're just terrified to bet the other side. So like lines even inflated in their favor because people love betting the chiefs and are afraid of betting against the chiefs. But Mike Ryan, who shows restraint here that surprises me because he's gambling way too much.
Starting point is 00:33:15 He says, I'm staying away. I'm staying away. Reports are Patrick Mahomes is sick. And I don't know what that means. What did Michael Jordan do when he had a flu? Yep. And then I watched the game and it's like oh that's what it looks like like like looks like the only time you've seen my homes look like that was the Superbowry didn't have an offensive line dude Kansas City's kind of failed my homes and I know his contracts part of it and he has the greatest tight end
Starting point is 00:33:40 ever and when you look at their receiving core you have to take that into consideration those receivers are terrible he's been trying to have them make a He does tight end ever. And when you look at their receiving core, you have to take that into consideration. Those receivers are terrible. He's been trying to have them make a play form all season long. And they, He won a Super Bowl with them. That might be wilder than Stugaz's.
Starting point is 00:33:54 Well, but no, not right. I don't feel bad. But it dude, like those receivers are bad. They cut me cold hard men. Me cold hard men comes back and reminds you why they moved on from me cold hard men. Yeah. Val Hardman comes back and reminds you why they moved on from me call hard man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:06 Valdez Gantley is even worse. Don't even get me started on former fast switch energy drink player of the week. There is Tony. They have Travis Kelsey, who's been banged up this season. And nobody on that receiving core wants to step up. They're bad. I want to talk about banged up for a second. I feel like they want to step up.
Starting point is 00:34:25 They just, you know, perhaps they can. They're not looking like it and they've drafted. They keep thinking, oh, let's just get this fast guy. We'll turn him into to re-kill. It's a testament to Patrick Mohams that he won without to re-kill him. To re-kills off to the greatest start in terms of receiving yardage we've ever seen
Starting point is 00:34:40 and post-merger, but they could use a receiver. Still got, I want to talk about both of these things. One, banged up, just the phrase banged up, how much of that umbrella covers. Like banged up in that league is crazy right now, and I want to go through something funny that happened with my wife in a second. But what Mike is saying, and what you're saying about Ty Kill for MVP, it's not just that he's got unprecedented receiving numbers here in Miami. When everyone knows, hey, there are going to be 12 targets there. Can you stop it? There are going to be 15 targets there. Can you stop it? No, no, no,
Starting point is 00:35:15 no, no, no, but also you go to Kansas City and you're like, well, wait a minute. This used to look like that when Tyree Kill played there. Tyree Tyree kill is gonna take that offense from there to here Mike, Nathaniel's gonna say when offered Tyree kill in a trade. Yes Everything I have push it over there because you're watching every Sunday and you can't believe that you're seeing someone Everyone knows is going to get the football and he's too fast for anyone to do anything about it It's not that he's too big. He's too fast for anyone to do anything about it so much so that not talking to a deep ball anymore.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Like clearly, he's going to get so open behind your secondary and two is going to hit him and you got to fear it the entire game. And so instead of playing Pittsburgh football offensively where it's like, you're just you're third and four is like a just it's a C section Because you're playing in in it's called a caesarian section You just it's just what yeah, what did you mean man? You need to get six yards gruesome like It's hard six yards is third and long for them. I mean six yards that four. So what is third and long for the Steelers?
Starting point is 00:36:26 Third and long. They're lucky. If it's only third and long and not like third and 40. They're just so sad. And like, I will say, like, there was a stretch of football yesterday in the first half of the Steelers Jaguars game. That was among the worst I've ever seen. It was terrible. Can you pick it? Got slammed into the ground? No penalty. They go out there and kick a field goal. It's like pouring rain and then they get called on an offensive off sides because their guard was lined up incorrectly. I don't understand that. So then it moved the field goal was longer. It was like it would have been like 65 yards. He missed it. It was terrible. What an awful game. Just disgusting.
Starting point is 00:37:05 And Matt Canada, like I was with a lot of people this weekend because Notre Dame was playing against Pittsburgh and I went to the game in South Bend. So I was with a lot of my Pittsburgh family. And they think that Matt Canada is like the absolute most worst person on the planet Earth. And that was, they were saying that at a game in which Pitt lost 58 to seven. Their offensive coordinator is also on the shit list, but like nowhere in comparison to Matt Canada,
Starting point is 00:37:35 they just need, they all want that guy to be gone. Is there a more frustrating penalty than when an alignment just has their hand across the line of scrimmage? Like when a defense, like, like, off sides, and it's just, Hey, hey, defense alignment. How about you just look a little left, you see the ball? Don't put your hand across. Chris, do it.
Starting point is 00:37:52 Chris, do it. Chris and Wilkins did that the entire game in the end, Spill it out. Earlier in the season, the Steelers were in victory formation, and their left tackle was called for being lined up incorrectly. We're full starting or something. What's a victory formation? I'll explain it to you later. What's a victory formation? I'll explain it to you later.
Starting point is 00:38:06 It's what teams do when they're winning. They had to punt the ball back to the Ravens and give them one more offensive series. It was absurd. The Steelers are four and three. Nobody wants to watch any event. They were tied for place in the conference before this weekend.
Starting point is 00:38:20 So it was a chance. Yeah, so the same record as Joe Barrow. You say though, Chris Cody, more annoying penalty, I'll go with just every pass interference, given that it's really hard to come by yards in that sport, except sometimes just a defensive back. Barrow rolls into your wide receiver, 50 yards downfield. feel.

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