The Deck - My-Dung Tran (10 of Spades, Mississippi)
Episode Date: January 15, 2025Our card this week is My-Dung Tran, the 10 of Spades from Mississippi.On September 27th 2008, 51-year-old My-Dung Tran boarded a bus from her home in Pensacola, Florida to Biloxi, Mississippi for a tr...ip to the casinos. She planned to stay for a couple of weeks to gamble with friends in the area. But on October 4th, 2008, My-Dung got into a cab outside of a casino and was never seen or heard from again. In the 16 years since then, her case has remained a mystery to Biloxi police. If you know anything about the 2008 disappearance of My-Dung Tran or her whereabouts from September 30th to October 3rd, please call Mississippi Coast CrimeStoppers at 1-877-787-5898 or submit a tip online at P3Tips.com. View source material and photos for this episode at: thedeckpodcast.com/my-dung-tranLet us deal you in… follow The Deck on social media.Instagram: @thedeckpodcast | @audiochuckTwitter: @thedeckpodcast_ | @audiochuckFacebook: /TheDeckPodcast | /audiochuckllcTo support Season of Justice and learn more, please visit seasonofjustice.org.The Deck is hosted by Ashley Flowers. Instagram: @ashleyflowersTikTok: @ashleyflowerscrimejunkieTwitter: @Ash_FlowersFacebook: /AshleyFlowers.AFText Ashley at 317-733-7485 to talk all things true crime, get behind the scenes updates, and more!
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Our card this week is My Dung Tran, the 10 of Spades from Mississippi.
Having recently sold the nail salon that she owned for years in Pensacola, Florida, 51-year-old
My Dung was enjoying her well-earned retirement.
The mother of three spent her newly cleared up schedule with her long-term partner at
home or on bus rides to Mississippi and Louisiana,
where she would hit the casinos for a couple of weeks at a time.
She was even planning an upcoming trip back to her home country of Vietnam to visit her
family.
But on October 4th, 2008, a fateful cab ride would postpone that trip indefinitely, and
it would change the course of Mai young's life and so many others.
I'm Ashley Flowers, and this is The Deck. In September of 2008, Mai Dung boarded a bus from Pensacola, Florida to Biloxi, Mississippi
for a gambling trip, something that she'd recently gotten into the habit of.
Here's Biloxi Assistant Chief of Police Chris Dibak, the investigator on Mai Dung's case
today.
From what I know, she would come over to Biloxi on the bus, sometimes with a friend, sometimes
not.
She'd usually stay a couple of days to a week,
and from what her family tells me,
sometimes it'd be up to three weeks.
So, wasn't anything unusual for her to be over here.
But she always would call or keep in contact
with a friend or something.
Except this time, Maidung was strangely quiet.
Two weeks passed, then three, then four,
but her family hadn't seen or heard from her.
When they got a call from one of their mom's friends,
who had also been ghosted, they really began to worry.
Because the woman said that Maidung was supposed to visit her
after her Mississippi trip, but she just never showed,
and she hadn't returned any of the woman's repeated phone calls either.
The family decided they needed to take action.
So on November 5th, Mai Dung's son, Vu Tran,
decided that he needed to file a missing persons report
with authorities in Escambia County, Florida,
where they had lived.
When he told them that his mom's last known location,
though, was in Mississippi,
well, you know how this works. Not their jurisdiction.
So they called over to Biloxi, where they got ahold of Dback.
They explained the scenario to him and put him in touch with Mydung's family.
One of the first things I did was call them to find out more about their mother and what
she might have been doing here in Biloxi.
Ask them the normal stuff.
Does she have bank accounts?
What's her cell phone number? Who might she contact? Who her friends were?
If she came over with a friend, I did ask them, we're talking about the end of September and this
is the beginning of November, why they waited so long. They kind of reiterated that whole three-week
thing and it kind of made sense a little bit, you know, button out of the ordinary.
But once they started calling around, they couldn't get in touch with her. She usually would return calls and if she wasn't returning calls, that's when they got concerned.
Now when Maidang boarded the bus back in September, Dback told us that she'd been alone.
But that's not to say that she was planning to be alone the entire trip.
Vu said that his mom was very friendly and, quote,
would talk to anybody.
And apparently, she had been making these trips to Biloxi for
at least the last year at that point.
So it was likely that she knew people there.
They just didn't know who those people might be.
She'd never talked about anyone in particular.
And tracking Maidung's movements, even in 2008, was going to be a challenge.
Because there wasn't really a paper trail for Dback to follow.
Maidung only used cash.
Cash to gamble, cash to pay for her bus ticket, cash to pay for her hotel rooms.
Vu said that his mom often kept large amounts of cash on her.
She preferred to carry her money this way and actually didn't even have a credit card.
She didn't even have a bank account.
When you're tracking missing persons, that's one of the first things you look at along
with their cell phone.
And so that was out the window.
So one of the first things that Dback did was call Maidung's cell just like her kids
had tried.
But the same thing happened.
No answer.
He also called her long-term partner,
Quang Nguyen, whose number he had gotten from her kids.
Mai Dung and Quang lived together in Florida.
Everybody I talked to asked about the boyfriend.
Was there problems there or anything like that?
And they said, no, they got along real well.
There wasn't anything that raised an eyebrow for anybody.
Even checked into that background,
because certainly a domestic is one way to go,
but was able to confirm he was at work
and there was no past reports or any indication
that there was an issue there.
When questioned, Quang said that he was working offshore
as he often did as a fisherman
during Mai Dung's trip to the Biloxi Casinos.
It was only once he got back home in October that he discovered Maidung was nowhere to
be found.
I tried to call her, couldn't get a hold of her.
Went to the normal locations looking for her, couldn't find her, talked to the family
and everything else.
He also found out that the rent hadn't been paid, none of the other bills had been paid.
About the end of the month, each month,
he would send her about $4,000 to pay rent,
buy groceries, things of that nature, live.
And there was no indication
that the $4,000 was left behind.
So it must have gone with Ms. Tran when she came over.
Quang told D-Bac that Mai Dung had been talking
about taking a trip home to Vietnam to visit her family. So D-Bac that Mai Dung had been talking about taking a trip home to Vietnam to visit
her family.
So D-Bac immediately began checking airlines and reaching out to federal agencies that
track international travel.
And nothing.
They used her maiden name, her current name, everything.
It did not appear she left this country.
So with neither Mai Dung's partner nor her children knowing what happened in Biloxi,
D-Bak was left to try to piece together Maidung's last movements on his own.
I started contacting the different casinos to find out if she had a player's card,
if she had ever stayed there, any information I could about her.
So when you go to a casino,
you can get a player's card,
it's kind of like a member card for that casino.
It's specific to each casino.
What you do is like if you're playing slots or something like that,
you can put your card in,
it tracks your points,
and it just tracks your history. But the only two casinos that really had current activity around that
time, the end of September 2008 to October 2008, was the Imperial Palace in Beauvage.
Employees at the Imperial Palace confirmed that Mai Dung had checked into the hotel on
September 27th and paid with cash for a three-day stay that she had booked in advance. Dback was able to
find activity on her player's card that first day, which would have been the 27th,
and then again on September 29th and 30th.
In all indications, she did stay from the 27th through the 30th. When we checked
with the Imperial Palace where we know she stayed at,
nothing had been left in the room.
When D-Back called the other casino, the Beau Rivage,
he found out that Mai Dung had also pre-booked a room there
from October 1st to the 3rd,
but she never showed up to check in.
And after the 30th, there was no more activity
on her player's cards at any casino in the area.
Now, of course, it's possible that Mai Dung was still staying at the casino and playing
games without swiping her card, but without any more activity to track, DBAC was stuck.
None of the other hotels or casinos in the area had any record of Mai Dung staying or
playing around that time.
The same was true for the local law enforcement agencies,
hospitals, even the coroner's offices.
None had any information about Mai Dung
or any unidentified Asian woman who matched her description.
At the time, it was a little bit difficult.
They really didn't have a place to go search.
Certainly the casinos did our best there
with the assistance of surveillance and security.
But other than that, we really had no place to go search.
You might be thinking, because I was too,
that surveillance at casinos is pretty intense,
like hard for someone to go missing kind of intense.
Casinos usually have not only high definition cameras
covering every inch of the floor,
but usually on-the-ground security teams constantly monitoring everyone and everything around
them.
The problem was that the surveillance cameras from the Biloxi casinos where she would have
been playing only stored footage for around a week.
And because Mai Dunn wasn't reported missing until over a month after she was last in contact
with anyone, most evidence of her movements in Biloxi had been deleted by the time D-Bak got on
the case. Now, there was one piece of technology, though, that did still have data, even over a month
out. And that was MyDumb's cell phone. It appears the last time her phone was used was at 3 o'clock in the morning on October
4th. She called a phone, it went unanswered. So nobody was able to talk to her at that
point if she's the one making the call. After that point, I can tell you there were several
incoming calls but no answers. So I could tell that she didn't answer and I can tell that nobody ever made another call from her phone. By looking at the 24 hours
prior to that call to see who she called and you know if they knew anything and
you know what was the reasoning for that call. It turned out Mydung was in contact
with a handful of people prior to her disappearance. Dback tried to reach out
to all of them.
Most, it seemed, were friends that she would gamble with,
and many of them didn't answer.
Now, to be exact, My Dung made 15 phone calls
between 9.30 p.m. and 3 o'clock a.m.
on October 3rd and 4th, and none of those were picked up.
14 of these calls, including My Dung's last call,
were to the same man.
When D-Back called that number, the man said that he had met Mydung gambling on a previous
trip and the two had sort of become friends.
He said that usually when she would call it was, hey, come, I'm in town, come gamble with
me and all that.
But he was working, didn't really have the time, so he just didn't answer the calls.
That was one of the last calls that was made.
The last call she made that was answered was placed just before 9.30 p.m.
It was to a friend who will call Bob.
And Bob told D-Back that during that conversation,
he made plans to meet up with My Dung at the Imperial Palace that night, October 3rd.
When Bob got there, he noticed Mai Dung had brought along
a woman that he didn't recognize.
They hung out at the IP Casino for several hours, and then they decided to go over to
the Beaurevage. They were at the Beaurevage, all the three of them, for another several
hours. And around four o'clock on the 4th, Mai says, well, I'm going to go down to the
Grand Casino. And the gentleman gives her $5 for the cab.
As far as the Grand Casino, we have no indication that she ever arrived through surveillance or player's card.
That's the last time she's seen.
Sometimes you'll find where taxi companies keep the records, it pickups drop-offs.
I couldn't find any pickup or drop-off in the area for that time frame.
D-Back doesn't know if someone called this supposed cab
or if it was already nearby
or if it was really even a legitimate cab at all.
To this day, he hasn't been able to pinpoint the company
or the driver of that car.
And it's after this 4 a.m. pickup
that Mydung essentially goes off the grid.
People continue to call her phone, but she never picks up again.
Now, because Maidung's phone continued to get calls,
it did continue to ping cell towers.
Now, ordinarily, this could give investigators
a general idea of the area where someone is,
but not in this case,
because the towers it was hitting on
were kind of a red herring.
I know she was at the bar of eyes on the morning,
but if you look at her phone records,
it's hitting further north up in the county.
It's a switch tower.
So if the tower gets overloaded or something like that,
it switches to another location.
So the GPS location didn't help on the cell phone records.
D-Back was never able to locate My-Dung's physical phone, but he was interested in learning
more about Bob and that other woman that she was last seen with.
When Bob met up with Ms. Tran at the IP Casino on the night of the 3rd, this unknown feeble
was with her.
The only thing he could tell me is that she was foreign.
He didn't know where she was from, who she was, anything like that.
So D-Vac tried to see if the casino employees do anything about this mystery woman.
And that's when things sort of took a turn.
None of them could tell me who this person was,
but they thought she was involved in some kind of prostitution or something.
I don't know how they got the idea she might even be involved in prostitution.
Nobody ever came forward with any information for that.
I would say I'm very skeptical of this unknown female.
I know what people are saying and what they believe.
I don't know how they, I want to say assumed or what their theory is,
where it came from that she might have been involved in prostitution. I still haven't figured that one
out. But if that is anywhere close to accurate, maybe she got hooked up with the wrong people
and maybe that's who she was staying with and something went wrong. D-back tried to identify
this woman, but other than searching for a player's card,
which he couldn't find, there wasn't much he could do without surveillance or a paper trail.
And we don't know how the mystery woman or Bob's nights ended after My Dung allegedly left.
According to D-Back, there was nothing to suggest that Bob was involved in My Dung's
disappearance. And though all of the new information he provided was helpful,
there were still tons of gaps in the timeline,
and honestly, even more questions.
You know, she checks out IP on the 30th.
Where did she stay between the 30th and the morning of the 4th?
I can't even put her gambling at any of the casinos
other than two days during that period.
One being the last day and one being the one of the first days she's there.
So I haven't been able to determine or figure out what she did in the middle there.
It's just the story is so weird between those dates that she just,
she wasn't at a casino or if she was she wasn't using her player's card.
She wasn't on any kind of video that we know of.
And she wasn't checked into a hotel.
So I don't know where she was staying at,
who she was with.
And majority of the time,
we get a report of a missing person.
We find them a couple hours later,
and sometimes they're sitting at another casino.
Sometimes they just went to sleep or whatever it is.
And thankfully, majority of missing person reports, that's how they end up. They just lost track of time or whatever it is, but, and thankfully, majority of them are in person reports,
that's how they end up.
They just lost track of time or whatever,
cell phone died, whatever it is.
By the end of November,
D-Back hadn't received so much as one tip from the public.
It was starting to feel like there was nothing more
he could do.
But on December 5th,
just as he was on the verge of losing hope,
Dback got a call from a waitress at the Imperial Palace.
She told him that just the day before,
she had seen Maidung at the casino,
and she wasn't alone.
The waitress who said she saw Mai Dung on December 4th told D-Bath that she recognized Mai Dung because she had served her at the casino many times before.
She said, I think I saw her on December 4th with an unknown white male and never seen
the guy before, nothing.
So I asked her, I said, well, where did you see her in the casino exactly?
And what was she doing?
Did she appear to be scared, anything like that?
She said, no, she appeared to be normal.
I didn't go up and talk to her or anything like that, but I'm pretty sure it was her.
So I started checking into that, checked her players' records, got with surveillance,
figure out exactly
what camera she might be on,
and they were never able to find anything.
And so whether it was her or not, I couldn't tell you,
but this employee felt like it was Ms. Tran.
D-Back said that he believed the waitress was reliable,
so he had the Imperial Palace
look through their surveillance video based on her tip.
But there didn't appear to be any footage of Mai Dung anywhere.
So unable to confirm the waitress' story, Dback had to assume she was mistaken.
She couldn't say anything else about the man she'd allegedly saw Mai Dung with other
than he was white, which just left D-Back with another possible
person of interest that he had no way to identify.
That same month, D-Back also got a call
from My Dung's son, Vu.
He's the one who initially reported her missing.
He told D-Back that he received a call
from somebody saying they saw My Dung
at a casino in Lake Charles, Louisiana,
which is over four hours
from Biloxi.
And so I got with the Louisiana Gaming Commission and between them, Mississippi Gaming Commission
and casinos, we were able to check every casino nationally and put out a BOLO and there was
nothing.
New Orleans, Lake Charles, Las Vegas, nothing on this train
other than here in Biloxi.
Unfortunately, that was the last tip
D-back received in this case.
In fact, those two tips were the only tips he's ever gotten.
In January of 2010, D-back entered Vu's DNA into CODIS,
and over the years, he's gotten a handful of hits
for possible matches
to unidentified remains found out of state.
But each one was eventually ruled out.
At this point, I can't say that there's a person
of interest, but at the same time,
you know, whether you want to call them witnesses
or friends, associates, it's just,
it's an active missing person case,
so it's kind of hard to rule anybody out at this point.
But no, there's no front running person of interest, nothing like that.
I'd love to talk to that driver, the unknown white female, and let's say December, citing
was accurate, the unknown white male.
Those would be the three people that I'd want to talk to right now.
Or anybody that knows where she may have been staying at
between the 30th of September and the 3rd of October.
D-Vac said that because it's been so long
and Mai Dung hasn't resurfaced anywhere,
gotten any tickets in another state,
or popped up on any NCIC list,
he can only assume that there was
foul play involved in her disappearance.
But other than that, he says he doesn't have enough information to come up with a theory
about what happened to her.
Here's our reporter Nicole speaking with Detective Dback.
What would you say has been the most challenging part of this case?
The unknown, the inability to get information on those few days in the middle
of where exactly she was or what exactly she was doing.
And not having the ability to go back and get the surveillance, a lot of the surveillance, most of it as a matter of fact, because it's just gone.
You know, we lost it in time.
The records at the time, as far as the cell phone records,
you know, certainly details are better nowadays than they were even in 2008.
And not be able to pinpoint, you know, that cell phone ping
where she was making the calls because it hit a switch tower.
And then unfortunately, majority of the calls she made
in that last day went unanswered.
So that to me, that's the frustration.
There's nowhere to go to get the questions answered.
And unless somebody comes forward that knows,
has those answers, there's no technology we can use to get it.
No records we can go dig up.
We haven't received any new leads,
any new information in over a decade now.
And the few attempts or times that I've been able
to pull it out and look at it
and try to rerun the information,
trying to find a new connection,
I've gotten nowhere.
I think anything is important, especially if we're talking about the
timeframe again through the end of September.
I say through the beginning of October, but if she was observed or seen after
that, that information is important too.
So it doesn't matter how small it is or insignificant you believe it is, you
know, any information can help.
And it's a puzzle.
You're trying to put the puzzle together and you may have that piece,
whether it's very valuable or it's not as significant,
it's still part of the puzzle.
Today, Mai Dung would be 67 years old.
At the time of her disappearance, she was 5 feet tall and 140 pounds.
She had black hair, brown eyes, and pierced ears.
You can find her photo in the show notes.
If you know anything about the 2008 disappearance of Maidung Tran or her movements in Biloxi
from September 27 to October 4 of 2008, please call Mississippi Coast Crimest Stoppers at 1-877-787-5898.
Or you can submit a tip online at p3tips.com.
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