The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 211 - The Tichborne Situation (Live w/Wil Anderson)
Episode Date: October 9, 2016Live from Canberra, Australia, comedians Dave Anthony, Gareth Reynolds and guest Wil Anderson discuss the Roger Tichborne Case. SOURCES TOUR DATES REDBUBBLE MERCH...
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this is a bi-weekly American History podcast each week I read a story from
American history to my friend Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic
or the gestures going to be about no no no no don't know my friend all right
super weird who's my friend and then tonight we have a special guest ladies
and gentlemen this guy is really he's something he's what keep eye on this guy
that's what I'm saying he's he's like the next Adam Hill's yeah
ladies and gentlemen Will Anderson
I'm really starting to move started to get the local down the local humor I
know fucking doing Adam Hill's jokes yeah I'm fucking bringing it on all
levels January 5th 1829 that people love that you're here big year here fucking
1829 is a big player you know what the thing is like we've done a lot of
horrible things lately and we're glad it's just not one of those ones
we're like an old thing that we can pretend wasn't us you guys are doing
you guys doing great work right now oh yeah we're doing some fucking cracking
doll episodes from 20 years from now that's how we see it yeah it's definitely
and yet I'm like the immigration minister was an actual potato
is that is that true that would be amazing amazing all right it's Tony I bet
gonna be your prime minister again
there's two emergency exits there's two emergency exits miss and there's did
somebody start to cheer that fucking onion eater that was the representative
of the onion industry yeah we need an onion watching the border
I mean for the country it would be terrible for me personally as a comedian
yeah extra extra show at the festivals this year I gotta be honest
all right well let's just get into it no okay Roger Charles at Titch born was born
what happened the Tony Abbott person moved oh really there's a Tony Abbott
section over there there's the it's outside just a chair he was born to
Henriette and Sir James at Titch born Henriette was the illegitimate daughter
of an English gentleman and a French woman of royal lineage okay so James was
the third son of Baron Titch born of England James was the third in line for
the title of Baron Henriette did not get along with James family and insisted
that they live in Paris so that's where Roger was born and raised in France okay
so he's already handicapped okay because he was in Paris just French oh right
sorry starting up behind the eight ball okay right I mean I love that you've
come to Australia you know what racism works here but but weirdly enough we're
not that racist against the French we're like you guys can come on boats bring
some bread and cheese yeah you're not racist yeah right don't get mad at me
yeah if you don't like puns you're not gonna like my riff on the Titch born
identity I was sitting on it but now you made me say it I was hoping some more
clues might fade into my narrative so he loses his memory and he's small he's a
Titch born Roger also had a younger brother Alfred Roger was a sickly
coddled child who suffered from asthma he was raised as a French boy schooled by
tutors and could hardly speak a word of English sir James wrote he sounds French
yeah he's got full-blown France yeah he's full he's he's totally all full of
French kid never had a shot sir James wrote to Henriette's father quote the
time appears to me when it is absolutely necessary that he should go to school
preferably in England this plan meets with the most violent and determined
opposition from Henriette and she abuses me with tears in the most violent
manner possible accuses me of being a tyrant and wishing to be the death of
the child I have only to add that it would be the Roan of Roger the grand
object she seems to aim is to make a French man of Roger and believe me this
neither can or ever will I submit to so you don't want no French kid I mean hey
I feel like he is fucking banging this on a bit though like did he say is she
assaulted him with tears yeah I mean fucking hard enough you're been in a
relationship I wish that I wish that happened James told Henriette he was
taking Roger to visit his grandfather in England but then put him in a prep
school instead so he had to come back with that news yeah oh where is the
little French boy he fell into a school and he's stuck there see in my head I
thought that he like told her that he was going like actually was going to
England and just pretended the whole time that he was in is that not what
happened no he I thought he put him in school and just went now he's in England
no no he's loving it he's learning French over there you'd be very happy
oh he's got a beret the whole night scarf he's smoking it's amazing he took
him to England and put him in a prep school okay James said Henriette was
quote wild with rage oh those tears must have burned extra bad that I mean she
must have been really super violent yeah Roger's mother called it an abduction
and said her happiness was blighted so she said Roger stated the prep school
until 1848 when he was 19 an acquaintance said he quote walked like a
Frenchman in short quick steps with his feet turned outwards how and I mean are
there any other options for your steps to be short and quick
excuse me penguin man coming through pardon me please move us away and he's
behind everybody hurry up Jesus Christ you people how much longer must it take
striding steps foolish English fool long walker when he's walking like
chaplain and I get that's aware it's a French man coming through Roger spoke
with a pronounced accent and gave the impression that he thought in French and
translated in into a very bad English his hair was laid on his head just the
same as a bundle of carrots that's that's a quote that's a quote from a
friend now firstly is that a good analogy no like that I don't even know
what I'm picturing still I don't know what I'm picture what is a bundle of
carrots it is like when you don't want dreadlocks is that he never washed his
hair ever yeah that would look like a bunch of carrots poured on someone
maybe or unless he went to somebody who's like can you make it look like 18
different carrots oh wow this is unreal this is how we do it then Perry oh the
bunny rabbits will be following this one but they won't catch me because I walk
fast like this move out the way and that's like to see here just a man
walking like a penguin with a carrot turban move move move lord gosh act like
you've been here before it was now he's not French or English he's just from the
fifth element he's now just future oh my god that many people have seen the fifth
element hi mate this is Canberra it came out last week it's a very topical
reference that's why people enjoyed it they waited they waited to see the first
four of them sometimes you don't need both of us the puns are like excuse me
get out of the way move this is 18 carat company
oh that's your line fuck it that's it
it was decided that Roger should join the Calvary in the Army it was peacetime
so he ended up spending a lot of time at home where his first cousin Katie lived
after three years they wanted to marry her father his uncle agreed but only if
they waited three years until she was 21 wait until she's not legally your
cousin anymore at 21 the engagement was supposed to be kept a secret but people
were talking about I don't know I don't know why I don't know it was supposed to
get a secret but people kept talking about it and then Katie's mother got
upset that people were talking about it and then Roger broke it off well well
there was a lot of sympathy for cousins in love I said a dating cousins just
held hands like one day get that far keep yes sir Roger then decided to go to
Chile where the warmer climate would help us asthma he sailed on on March in
March 1853 his mother was very upset quote I am so unhappy about our dear
Rogers departure that really I have not the courage for anything you have no
idea my constant anxiety time not the courage for anything anything that's a
tough place to be yeah she's scared I can't leave the bed but I'm scared to
be in it no no I can't roll over in the bed oh no I should breathe the live but
I'm oh gosh can I she's dead from not leaving the better breathing it took me
18 months to write this letter because I was scared of getting her paper cut I
still I still am they say the pen is my year than the sword oh gosh swords now
I'm terrified oh no I've done it again oh sometimes I think I belong under water
after a year Roger just after you're in South America Roger decided to return
home he ended up on a ship called the Bella which left Rio on April 20th 1854
40 crew and one passenger Roger six days after leaving what 40 crew 40 crew
one one Roger was he meant to be there yeah that feels like they've over stuff
yeah he talked to the captain the cab is like let's go so he's the only non-
working person on the boat yep now that sounds fun yeah you know who I hate
Roger that guy is the fucking worst what is his deal hello hi how are you yeah
hey Roger I'm a walking very fast around you know you're not you're not
walking fast your steps go nowhere I just mopped their asshole rounds it
I just you should have done it like so fast can you see me yeah I see your
carrot head bobbing zoom zoom literally going in a circle a tiny circle six days
after leaving Rio the Bella's ships a rowboat was found floating bottom up by
the crew of the ship Kent no sign of bodies or survivors word of the ship
wrecked did not reach Roger's family for two months and at some point someone
told Lady Titch born that he could have been picked up by a rescue vessel and it
could have headed to Australia that's no one knows who told her that but she
held on to it I'm to it some random guy he's probably in Australia see ya Katie
Mary just four months later to a Percival Radcliffe and at the wedding half
the congregation was dressed in black that must have been awesome wait they
had to combine can't those be separate occasions we're having a wuneral now
what this is we don't have the money for both so we're bringing in some of the
grieving relatives and celebrating your nuptials when you walk in they're like
death or wedding right over here this is death so sorry for your loss death or
wedding yeah I'm a dude so it's all death we've asked you to not come in here
anymore cuz getting married's like dying right oh god this guy he's even
hacky for whatever year this is this is and we have shit you know what I mean so
after six months with no word from Roger they accepted he was dead except his
mother who would still not allow a memorial for her son at the beginning of
1857 a sailor came to the Titch born estate looking for a handout he'd been
to Australia and Roger's mother asked whether you know what just a softball
okay and Roger's mother asked whether he knew anything of the Bella and her crew
the sailor told her what she wanted to hear he said he heard something about
some crew and a good many passengers had been picked up at sea and brought to
Melbourne hang on so you're telling me the person who was coming to her for
financial assistance told her exactly what she wanted to hear yes we're all
shocked that guy hit the jackpot though like if you're gonna be a shady guy that
is the shady guy like lottery yeah the place in the world that's fucking
massive you ever see my son in Australia oh yeah you got any more beef we
have a lot of beef but you've seen Roger yeah we need something to wash that
down I take anything we have whiskey ales whatever you like what did he look
like did he still have a face and yeah he had lots of carrots oh my god he's
still had the carrots on his head yeah that's him that's our Roger carrot headed
as he ever was yeah go what's that pie that's pie take the whole thing
honestly I've been terrified of the whole meal honestly I I don't have the
courage to face it I haven't eaten in a while I belong underwater some say don't
ask what that means I don't know what that means take whatever you like don't
ask what that means just take whatever you like my book my boy's alive he even
mentioned a survivor named a Delafossae living in Melbourne now word was out
amongst the down-on-your-luck sailors that they'd get food rum at the titchborn
estate that was a Mike Wlapp I was so now so now just you guys hear about the
gold there's gold over there it's in the form of a lady just tell her kids in
Australia and you get fucking pie and be oh yeah he looked good too he looked
healthy I'll tell you I remember when he got there he looked a little sick he's
doing real good for himself ma'am real good I got some more of that gravy real
quick the boy that goes down fantastic I'll tell you that way it's it's kind of
not funny because it's so real that's exactly what was happening it's
terrifying so all these guys would come through and they all said they also I
just love that there's like a hotline or a newsletter or like a WhatsApp group
head up to the titchborn estate you don't think I would keep that information
private right yeah just be mine I've been showing up there every day like want
to hear another story he took up gymnastics I'd love some feel he's got
magic eyes now because surely there's got to also be a point where you
coordinate stories because if you're all going up there independently
people are going off book but I thought that Roger had he wasn't drinking anymore
I was told oh no no no red wine yeah well water he stopped drinking water he's
drinking everything else so wait sorry he's very French you know that does
play into the Parisian aspect gravy for all all the sailors said that they'd
been to Melbourne and a lot of them were called having heard of the Bella and
even old Delafossi oh yeah this continued for quite some time until sir James
found his wife serving cognac to seven sailors in the house one day these are
Roger's best friends darling how are you doing they drank all the good cognac
but humdinger stories whoa I saw your boy on kangaroo apparently Roger's
riding kangaroos now oh they've had all the cognac and the gravy couldn't face
it myself never can so James order up along on land
something James ordered the Gardner to keep all the sailors away from the house
from now on but but Roger's mother then just went down to the docks and gave the
sailors money for news of the Bella oh my god I mean of all the things that women
did at the docks at that time I guess yeah giving them money for information
that prostitutes giving money out no she's not a prostitute we're the
prostitutes let's go just paying for anyone ever Roger story yeah yeah take
the money first hey thank you by the way how much does she fucking love this kid
though because she's got over her fear of everything yeah and now she's down at
the fucking docks and if you know her you're like no they're no no they don't
all he's he's dead she's just down there taking on nine sailors at a time
story wise I know I have a different story in my head what I'm making a like an
independent film honey I'll tell you what gets the stories out of these sailors
blowjobs boy I'll tell you I learned so much about our boy today all I had to do
was you know give nine blowjobs out to the guys down there but Roger's a
lumberjack now did you know that mr. angry they said I couldn't handle the
truth but I handled that oh I handled it oh I handled it and I'm going back
down there tomorrow to handle it again
I'm so close to the sea you know when I was down there today the water spoke
again nevermind nothing nothing I'll stay up here probably who controls the
fish so this went on this was this was an extended this is not months this has
been going on for years eight years after the shipwrecks sir James died his
title was passed to Rogers younger brother Alfred Alfred was 15 Alfred then
contracted a huge 200 a thousand pound yacht to be built to be used to go look
for Roger probably to shut her up right probably to convince or just or just to
be like yeah I'm gonna make a boat and go away right boy it really yeah I'm
gonna spend all our money on a boat and go look for Roger I'll be looking for
Roger oh tell him tell him hello and I hope everything's fantastic yeah oh I'm
missing so and I know he's there you just you're wanted on the docks mom some
of them are getting a little vicious I just wasn't sure if I was though it is
so nothing but strangely Alfred went I know it can't be the end of it but if
this story ends up with her living in the water can that be how it ends and then
she grew gills so strangely Alfred went bankrupt instead interesting call turns
out he was shit with money another business venture of his was the
construction of the perfect sphere simpler times what did I mean he
literally just sure okay he just wanted to build this fear a so-called the
money into making a ball I kind of get why you miss Roger now you're like you
know what I'd rather the folk stories of my boy where's the one with carrots that
walks the weird mom what are you talking about look at that circle you can get
inside of but Roger's get ready for the rhombus baby but Roger's mother was not
giving up on her son she not it's not often in a comedy show you hear
rhombus it's my little geometry buddy right there comes the Canberra does some
local Cuesta con material but Roger's mother's not giving up on her son she
plays an ad in the Melbourne and Sydney papers free money in July 1865 this was
11 years after the ship Jesus Christ it read a handsome reward will be given to
any person who can furnish such information as will discover the fate of
Roger Charles Titch born he sailed from the port of Rio de Janeiro on the 20th
of April 1854 in the ship La Bella and has never been heard from since but a
report reached England to the effect that a portion of the crew and passengers
of a vessel of that name was picked up by a vessel bound to Australia
Melbourne it's believed he would at the present time be about 32 years old is of
a delicate Constitution rather rather tall with very slight brown hair and blue
eyes mr. Titch born is the son of Sir James Titch born Baron now deceased and
he is the heir to all his estates a most liberal ward will be given for any
information that may definitely point out his fate okay so you're saying it
said free money yeah I mean you were right really long away of writing free
money looking willing to trade bullshit for money
oh is this the woman who invented podcasting this is my first roge cast and
I we're not sure what the format will be yet but um we figure it out that that's
what they say just do the first one and then figured out from there we're brought
to you by water and water and docs and doc doc doc workers and spearfice you
he's not supposed to have a microphone I said to not mic him he all he does is
talk about the sphere saying mom someday this fear is gonna make our
family a fortune when American gladiators starts look out holy shit you
were all laughing at me when I said I was gonna build something like this look
at me now look at the gladiators fuck you
fuck Roger he wasn't the best he died on his ship but I made something men can
ride motorcycles in the sphere we're talking about different gladiator
events maybe although love where your heads at that is an upgrade for sure
I'll find the motor but you're picturing the I was thinking of the that movie with
Russell Crowe on a month no no wasn't Russell Crowe what what place beyond the
pines and who's the star of that film sir Ryan Gosling I was a lady who what
I fuck no no that same answer let's stick let's maybe Ryan Gosling was in the
nice guys with Russell Crowe Russell Crowe was in gladiator gladiator gladiators
we're fucking there that's that was the link that was the link God you're here
that was the link man thank you thank you this is how this podcast works is
it right absolutely Tom Castro hang on who Tom Castro was a butcher living in
Wagga Wagga so yeah yeah until until you meet a guy from Wagga I was like no
it's Wigga Wigga mate it's actually Voga Voga German it's Wagga Wagga but it's
often called Wagga but you know let it call it Wagga you gotta call it Wagga
Wagga really like for like San Francisco but I think that but that's
the fucking why you should do it that's the name like San Francisco people call
it Frisco but if you tell that to some San Francisco we're like go fuck you you
don't call it that it's like that oh I don't really know I just like I like I
like I like this side conversations on the dollop I like when they break away
and just talk about stuff Tom had Tom Castro had been born in Chile he was 30
years old five feet nine inches solid built gray eyes and had long greasy hair
he was described as quote loose and slommaking slommaking slommaking that
was the fucking word what it does slommaking what I didn't look it up I
was just like well the Australians will know I kind of picture just like bad
posture sort of maybe a hunchback sort of look yeah like a shaved hunch yeah
like a yeah shaved hunch yeah anyone got shampoo yeah that's that's that's
slommaking right there and does anyone have shampoo anyone got you I got
greasy hair no I got shampoo yes what's past your like I'm just getting okay
there in your in character now thank you he was I think I could only imagine his
hair if you tell me what vegetable it looks like he's got like a cauliflower
head he's got like like a bucket of Brussels sprouts up top he's got
zucchini noodle hair Tom courgette what the fuck is it here is it zucchini man
well shame I want an extra step on that just heard my mother in my head for a
second courgettes it's called rocket he was actually really good for the people
who came for the French side of this story you left us a minute ago now we're
back Tom also was missing three front teeth which made him drool and he had a
tremor and he had a tremor on one side of his face okay so okay so leading with
greasy hair is kind of burying the lead a little bit this guy had so he was
basically a toothless drooling greasy hunch man with a twitch with a face
twitching okay okay in August of 1865 he had bet he had just been married to
Mary Ann Bryant for four months he's fucking married yeah like this guy you
just described yeah I'm not fucking married and this all right anyway he
was a butcher I've shouldn't judge him on his appearance a line he might
actually have a lot of redeeming he was a butcher so it's always always got
mate yeah no I mean a guy like that who only talks about pork chops I mean oh
really you know another thing we did today in the bushes wrong sorry honey
sorry to get married like that she also had a baby daughter she had a baby
daughter not Tom's daughter oh he was she could tell because it looked normal
right oh that's not yours
he was and then around this time he was shown the ad about Roger by a friend
oh good that's who you want Tom started dropping hints in the pub that there
was a title waiting for him and money too unfortunately he'd had a fight with
his family and would rather have freedom than all that money when asked
what Mary thought Tom said quote she don't know nothing about it don't you
go saying nothing besides cast your weight my real name you needn't tell
Mary that neither she fancies being married to South American that's like
literally if you put that into like a script people be like that's too too much
exposition that says too much like it's too nobody should talk like that
they're really it's not even Castro but don't tell her that they'd be like no
no impossible Tom owed a lot of money and discussed bankruptcy with his lawyer
William Gibbs but Tom didn't want to declare bankruptcy after give Gibbs
told them he still have to pay off his debts if he came into money a few days
later presidential run a few it's not that that's not that funny a few days
later Gibbs and Tom were talking again and Gibbs said he'd love to be sailing
on Sydney Harbor and Tom replied quote you wouldn't say that if you've ever
been shipwrecked Tom was then vague when Gibbs continued to question question
him but he did say it had happened near Rio de Janeiro and then he was done with
the sea they didn't want to go home was that was alive wait he's done with the
sea okay I don't know for the sea I'm a butcher now I mean he is just the
stereotype in the bar like someone's like the seas like don't talk about the
sea the seas dead to me boy but I know a lady who it ain't dead to I'm gonna go
see her soon
please be about her going to the site that night Gibbs wife pieced it together
with the ad the facts fit because he said everything wait a second wait a
second he's literally said everything and now I'm looking at the ad wait a
minute it's all super super clear and has been the whole time Tom denied it but
he soon quit his job now Arthur Kubit in Sydney had been hired by Roger's
mother to find Roger he got a letter from Gibbs asking about Roger what he was
like and Gibbs said he thought he had found him he wanted details so he could
be certain now Kubit didn't know much Roger might be using the assumed name
due to pride he said I'm Carol I do love these people though because they even
give the con people the excuses yeah they might be using a different name and
they might look different and they might have no teeth yeah yeah exactly and if
in a face that just keeps moving on one side like Roger did Gibbs Gibbs that went
and asked Tom if he should call him by his real name Tom then showed Gibbs his
well-smoked black wooden pipe it had the initials RTC scratched into it Tom
asked Tom asked supposing I am the one in the paper what did I have what would
I have to do would they just send me money and then say you're it wait it's
a legitimate question I mean right seems like we have our Roger no I mean
so that's what Roger's reaction was they sure if it were the real Roger yeah
that's what he'd be sure sure I phrased it weird but I might be him Gibbs
explained that Tom would have to go to England and the family would have to be
certain Tom didn't seem interested in that at all no no no no because of the
same yeah right no I'm not going back out on that ocean yeah she took me near real
Tom Gibbs reminded Tom that he had debts and a family now and Tom said quote
don't know if I can face the sea again but I'd have to go by steamer wait he
wants to go on a big ship he doesn't want to be a steam ship yeah he wants to be
like I was like is he trying to go there by trying I thought he was going to go
to that by train I thought he was not like Doc Brown's there this is the only
train that'll take you this is Jules and Verne I hope you
oh that got a big laugh back to the future three just came out of camera
so I played in a double with the fifth element it was a big fucking not
camera film festival basically eight films so then Gibbs told Qubit he'd found
Roger Qubit told Roger's mother in December of 1865 quote Mr. Roger
Titchborn is alive and well and that he is now in this colony within 600 miles
of Sydney your son's circumstances are such that he has not the means to come
to Sydney my previous inquiries into his whereabouts were a great expense good
sign off Gibbs also said he'd like the reward meanwhile Tom was now taking
money from Gibbs to get by in January of 1866 Gibbs convinced Tom to write a
letter to his mother and he did my dear mother I deeply regret the trouble and
anxiety and I must have caused you by not writing before but the reasons are
known to my attorney and the more private details I will keep for your own
ear of one thing rest assured that although I have been in a humble
condition of life I have never let any act disgrace you or my family I don't
think it needful my dear mother to convince you of my identity although I
will mention the brown mark on my side that is just okay keep going I must
request you send me the means of passage money and paying a few thousand debts I
hope grandpa as well sorry a few thousand debts a few oh sorry outstanding
whoops yes a few outstanding okay and then he closed it with I help grandpa as
well Tom asked for 400 pounds give also Gibbs also wrote and said Tom is Roger
Lady Titch born was a little confused how do you feel like the way that's not how
his son writes to a mother yes I still have that birthmark I've got a brown mark
on my side say hi to grandpa say hi to grandpa all the usual stuff we use to
say to each other Tom sorry Roger I mean this is literally the original catfish
yeah can I see more pics for sure when we meet if catfishing with letters where
were you my dearest Mary I couldn't actually make it for I have overspoken
yet again Lady Titch born was a little confused she didn't remember any brown
mark on Roger and thought it was weird he asked about his grandpa since both
grandpas have been dead for a long time he was for the fences man don't drop in
information you're already sure if you have that for sure you know that but if
you don't I'm still afraid of clowns and love to throw stuff I know what I'll do
I'll say I got a brown spot on my side that'll seal it the next letters just
like I just realized grandpa was dead and the thing on my side was mud sorry
about that still your son for sure so she didn't respond immediately so Tom
wrote you know it is bullshit she's like even I am like no even underwater I
can see that she was too busy jerking off-site oh my god I don't know your
boy see again I'm not following this tomorrow you say you know tomorrow maybe
I'll still do it if you save a good story so Tom wrote again surely my dear
mama you must know my writing you have caused me a deal of trouble TRU BLE so
they had the cool acronyms back then Gibbs also took a photograph of Tom and
included it Lady Titch born wrote to Gibbs my son was born in Paris and spoke
French better than English I fancy that the photographs you sent me are like
him but of course after 13 years absence there must have been some
difference in the shape as Roger was very slim but I suppose all those large
clothes would make him appear bigger than he is I think yeah my poor dear Roger
confuses everything is in his head just as in a dream and I believe yep I believe
him to be my son so he is so his statements differ from mine I mean I feel
bad for this lady oh she wants is this on well she's getting this is the
equivalent of like your grandma being like I sent $4,000 to a Nigerian prince
and I'm gonna be a millionaire you're like no no but wouldn't it be great if
they had a catfishing show about people pretending they were dead people's kids
oh this week on MTV yeah I'm your kid what's up what this week on Kidfish
I know we've been corresponding through Facebook for four years but I'm not the
son you thought I was wait what I'm not your son I'm sorry
wow that's harsh man that's so dark oh yeah I I'm sorry that I brought it to
that level in May of 18 May of 1860 I knew that I knew the email address the
dingo didn't actually take me wasn't real too soon is it still too soon in May
of 1866 lady titch born wrote to Tom my dear and beloved Roger I hope you will
not refuse to come back to your poor afflicted mother I have had the great
misfortune to lose your poor dear father and lately I have lost my beloved
Alfred I'm now alone in this world of sorrow I hope you will take that in
consideration and that you will come to join me as soon as possible you need not
be afraid about the money as you will have all the money necessary to pay your
expenses only come to see your poor lonely mother sadly Alfred had just drunk
himself to death three days before she wrote the letter even though he was a
financial genius he went bankrupt a second time the previous year and had
been put in a debtor's prison and because he died in debt all the family's
assets were frozen oh except they had a sphere yeah I always have that you know
what we always said you have nothing to sphere but spirit so well as flipping
off the audience flipping them off I since fearly miss him every day well
since feeling sphere Alfred my sphere is boy now I fear the worst is yet to come
I really do I I'm good now Lady Titchmoren had acknowledged Tom as Roger in
her letters so Tom went to different bankers and showed them the letter look
at this guess who I am now or always was fuck you I mean a fuck of you one one
banker land them $50 yes Tom who I mean everybody's the worst I mean that's
just really just fuck off not even back then fifty dollars is like all right and
the bank is like well okay you have a letter we're not sure what a bank is
either honestly yeah we don't know he asked Tom the bank asked Tom why he
had quote knocked around the colonies instead of going home Tom said quote
well it's a very jolly life I'm a butcher that sums it up that's why you
wouldn't return to all your money when it became obvious Lady Titchmoren didn't
have 400 pounds that Tom requested Gibbs and two storekeepers guaranteed in
advance of 500 pounds from a bank Tom settled his debts he told people when
he came back from England he was going to build the fanciest butcher shop in
Wagga
officially Wagga Wagga but that's what he called it he called it Wagga yeah I'm
going with him as a quote all right okay and he was gonna name it the
Titchmoren meet Emporium the Titchmoren meet Emporium but also I love the
limits on his fucking dreams you'll have limitless money what are you gonna do
still be a butcher I'm gonna be knee-deep in animals wait why are you even going
back then got do something hi I mean anyways
Titchmoren meets Titchmoren meet Emporium I've done it Titchmore meet Emporium he
is stay for the lies I cut me that's two pounds no I could see on the scale
huh I'm your son what Bobby yeah I'm Bobby that'll be $300 I'm Bobby yeah
take your ground beef it's good to see you ma boy it's been so long is grandpa
still dead yeah and I still got that big weird birthmark all down my side what
never mind it's mine come back again so great seeing you mom now if you'll
excuse me again my dad my aunt my other mom how you guys doing welcome to
Titchmore meet Emporium I'm related to everybody that died to you Titchmore
meet Emporium we got some of the freshest the best cuts and I'm your
dead relatives come on down get a cut of me talk about a barbecue we'll have for
the family reunion we need to have because god damn it I'm someone to
somebody
Tom then went to Sydney in June 1866 where he met Cupid Cupid noticed that
Tom had an excitable temperament and his face twitched which fit with Lady
Titchmoren's description of Roger Bing nervous I think he's actually thinking
about the twitch which born god damn it will son of a bitch son of a twitch what
guy does the ponds son of a titch
it's which poor oh yes
Cupid grilled Tom he's he Tom said some of the details of his army career didn't
match his mother's Tom said quote I was never an officer by God I have a bloody
good mind not to go near her at all when I get home well that's gonna sour the
reunion yeah I mean he's thinking's not great yeah no I like his approach like
every time he's challenged on a fact he just is like I know you are but what am
I must be him we got he's good man he's serious about saying who he is so he's
got to be him because when we were like your your facts don't match up with your
families he was like well they fucked him so how's that not him gotta take him
back clearly that's the defense of someone who is him Cupid was convinced
sure he already had a fucking time to be alive I know right I'm a genie hi I do
money's for wishes it's a whole new thing you go to letter from your mom
genie it says your genie yep right here in Magic Inc. hello you want like a
thousand dollars absolutely I do and then I'll get back in a lamp a grant a
bunch of wishes tomorrow because I'm a legal genie absolutely let's go over to
the meeting podium and get some meat oh you mean over at the titch me to pour
him fine genie I went nowhere yeah well I also feel like you're trying to have
sex with the genie suddenly no no no that's not one of the wishes wish number
one I want you a genie mass you question uh-huh who controls the fish I'm out of
here keep it was convinced he already had the letter a letter from the private
secretary of the governor of New South Wales who was a titch-borne family
friend stating lady titch-borne was sure that quote Mr. Kubits man was her son
Tom Telegraph gives quote identified by a lady government house sent letter
acceptance all right Tom volunteered to pay Kubits expenses and the reward that
all came to about a thousand pounds Tom met the government secretary and
family friend who actually had never met Roger he spoke with Tom for an hour and
then fired off a letter quote I think that he is the man I know to look about
the eyes and mouth which strongly reminded me of his father his upper
front teeth are all missing and he was I can assure you dirty enough wait that is
not a genetic both in person right it is like his mom both in person and in
dress for even a colonial butcher his English too is a bit butchery at times
but damn it it's gotta be him was that guy doing his fucking roast yeah I mean
I mean this guy's such a butcher the English language is on the chop block
am I right guys he'll serve you adverbs for 99 cents about I'll tell you what's
mince this preposition come on guys I'm into it yeah I mean a roast for a
butcher too it's a great big I've understood this entirely I have some
great lamb what what what is this a rose that makes so much sense Tom had
Mary brought to Sydney and explained to her that she was actually this is wife
okay Tom and Mary brought to Sydney and explained her that she was actually a
lady and was going he was going to take her and their daughter to England could
this be more white trash I mean it turns out you're a lady baby
I do forget that he has no front teeth that these guys are like he doesn't seem
that affluent I'm him I'm absolutely him I am mm-hmm can you give me a napkin so
I can stuff that in between these chompers I'm the boy so he so he tells
Mary he's gonna take Mary and their daughter and they're all gonna go to
England but I mean my mom but the illegitimate daughter has to stay
behind tough it's hard yeah tough cause if you're meeting the new family you
can't bring that she's that's not if he's a major read bloodline
unfortunately you don't fit into my paranoid delusion okay I could fake
everything but did that's my daughter I don't know how we'll convince them now
let's go there I have no teeth and I'm rich all right also by the way how
does the cousin fucker pull the hole that wasn't in the cousin fucker he was
gonna be the cousin fucker right Roger he doesn't know that but Roger was gonna
yeah but yeah anyway yeah that is true and that's what he gets
grossed out our cousin fucking have some moral compass man my god I'm just
ruining four lives at once so your cousin I mean I fucked my cousin don't
get me wrong privately so then Tom and Mary got remarried in a church in a
church Tom using the name Roger Titchport Tom got a suite of rooms at the
Metropolitan Hotel hired a carriage to take his wife around town and bought
them both a shitload of clothes the ex-head gardener of the Titchborns now
happen to live in Sydney so he stopped by strangely Tom did not recognize him
Tom just stared blankly when the gardener asked him about relatives of
course the gardener after all that still said Tom was Roger right right he said
Tom looked just like his uncle Robert Titchborn especially the back of his head
yep well do we feel like the gardener had been fucking Roger though do me a
favorite smash it into a pillow a couple yeah that's him that is him I'll never
forget it hold on I'm gonna squirt something on the back here by the way
you have mud on your butt you have a big muddy birthmarker my it's mud Tom wrote
to Lady Titchborn quote one of the old servants call on me he knew me has soon
has he see me sure what was that he wrote who wrote this he wrote Tom
lady Titchborn yeah Roger one of the old servants call on me that he knew me
has soon has he see me he meant to write as but he wrote has instead they didn't
have auto-correct on letters back then another friend actually has these
French fat as I believe another ex-Titchborn servant was in Sydney lady
Titchborn wrote quote there is a man of color at Sydney who could tell you how
the family stands his name is bugle and he is quite black hang on what's he's
everything everything again Roger knows him very well his name is bugle and he's
let me start from the top yes there is a man of color at Sydney who could tell
you how the family stands his name is boggle and he is quite black Roger knows
him very well okay all the details are out there a black one is coming
hello boggle and now the very old boggle came boggle told Tom he didn't think he
was Roger Tom responded I'm not so slender as when I left the Titchborn when
boggle saw a resemblance to sir Henry Titchborn and proceeded to tell Tom
about the family they spent four days together with boggle telling him wait
boggle didn't think it was him though but then eventually like let me tell you
everything about it to prove that you're not here before you go back there yeah
they spent you know why they call me boggle my decisions make your mind feel
weird I like the thing they got in boggle because he filled in all the
information didn't know and he was like the original Google I look this
information up on boggle it took a while boggle search engine so it was then
decided that boggle would go to England with Tom what just happened the trip
boggle just got in on this game you know what you are him the trip would be
paid for by a loan from a boggle's son with the agreement that Tom would pay him
back so now Tom is at the hotel it's him his wife his daughter a nurse made
Tom's just hired secretary who was a guy named truth butts what no no that is
not his name there is no way very much is everyone's making up that oh you're
boggle and you're Roger I'm truth I'm truth but this is my buddy real dicks
and we're gonna come on guys everyone get on board this is dr. horse this is
legitimate vagina legit vaginas here vagina so we're all normal and yeah we
have no we're all being honest hi I'm I'm Doug
Doug Doug fuck party have you just play drop the dog stick with what we're
kind of hey my name's fuck party better Doug better can I go to England yeah
you're definitely coming to England I don't mean to make you think you're not
coming in your shirt coming to England we're all going to England now we're all
going to bugle legit vagina real dick true butts did I mention boggle he's a
guy oh oh he's the one that's black is not that's right we're quite a rag tag
punch
Tom was also being invited to dinner with many of Sydney's most prominent
citizens but he rejected all the invitations and spawn most spent most of
his days in a pub and he kept borrowing money from whoever he could Tom was
basically trading IOUs against his future inheritance oh boy they would be
redeemable living like dumb and dumber like yeah right he's just right and
he's like don't trust me but again this is another reason not to eventually come
back to woga-woga for the mid-imporium right yeah I don't know because the
waga important the medium form sounds like like that could be a lot of money like
he could like that could be striking it rich you know I mean how many people
there eat meat true I mean you get probably most yeah yeah so okay you're
right I agree so Tom's I use he said will be redeemable at a London bank in
three months give's got 500 pounds cuba to thousand and Tom used them the IOUs
to buy the hotel for $10,000 what he IOU'd a hotel yep fuck I like how this
guy rolls I'm starting to I'm starting to fucking warm to Tom seriously yeah
absolutely I just bought this hotel on an IOU he's like a hypnotist I got a
letter from a mom somewhere you think we're idiots this hotel is actually
yours now Tom but Roger sorry everyone keeps making that mistake
good to meet you Boggle good to see you as usual true butts like the usual
gangs here as as soon as true butts had a real big
true bats you know I got one that ain't gonna quit it's me true bats it's true
like a badonka dog what is it true true spot that's right truth but this but
don't lie look at it squats baby that's the truth but just saying a second ago
you didn't know your own name I knew my name I didn't know if it was maybe you
have a list truth but true but both work he can't tell what you're saying
you're missing four times yeah like you said blablax hell you talking about no
front teeth tell me my butt won't quit my butt won't quit I true but or truth
but which is it truth right it is true that I know it is I remember now as soon
as Kubit got his thousand dollars of Tom's IOU's he went and sold them to a
moneylender for four-fifths of their face value what is happening what is
how what's going on there's now a new currency here's what's going on every
Australians in on it yeah the whole gang left on September 2nd for London Tom
took his sweet time he enjoyed Panama for about a month can't wait to see mom
but need a little time-time oh maybe we'll slow her down and see the sites then
he headed to New York where he called his heels for another month he went to
Panama set up some fucking offshore accounts or something and then he's
rolled to the city that never sleeps on the fucking white he's like you know
what we got around the world ticket it was cheaper it was cheaper mom hangs
on because once I'm done having fun I need to see her again remember what she
looks like for the first time then he was off to Washington DC Baltimore and
Philadelphia he could afford it because he borrowed $700 in New York
meanwhile Lady Titch born was waiting and waiting and waiting she had expected
Tom over a month ago while Tom was taking his time a young Henry Alfred
Joseph Dodie Titch born came into the world he was dead brother Alfred's son
and the heir to the estates a family lawyer showed letters of Rogers old
writing and Tom's new letters to Lady Titch born they didn't match at all
what she fired the lawyer smart yeah I have a feeling she's she's going to buy
it no matter what I had some sympathy for her before but I'm back yeah Tom
finally arrived in London and discreetly went 25 miles outside of the city where
he stayed for a couple of days and then he took a train to where the Titch born
estates were located at this point every paper in America Australia and England
were cranking out stories about the newfound Baron Tom Walker on the small
town in huge coats using giant hats to hide his face so everyone knew it was
Roger Jesus a few days later a man just entered his room at the end he was
staying in and demanded to know whether or not he was Roger Titch born Tom said
yes and then covered his face with his hands and told him to leave but the man
but the man didn't because Michael Jackson behavior a little bit no and
then and then Tom took out a manual Lewis yeah there's definitely we have
kittens backstage in a great Webster reference and that's what that was
Michael Jackson always kept around sorry I didn't realize I was like what is that
reference Jackson dated for a while yeah or whatever it is when you hang out with
a boy for years but hey they were cousins so this guy turned out to be the
family lawyer and he told Tom that any question of entitlement to the property
must be decided in a court of law and then he left and then Tom hired a lawyer
who formally told the Titch born lawyer that Tom was making a claim on the
estate what what so now it's all him he's all in baby all right why do you why
do you think he came to fucking England yeah I thought to like slowly milk the
process right full but instead he shows up he's like I own it all who is there
dentist an investigator was sent by some members of the Titch born family to
find out what he could he spoke to truth butts you know I might lie to you but
this area I'll tell you everything you need to know can you handle the truth
that's this may seem weird but I'm gonna leave the room and you just talked to my
asshole tell you everything you need to know I'm known for Fibon but truth but
I'll tell you everything oh wait the Oracle never lies get up real close to it
now
truth but I don't know anything I really don't I don't know anything I love a
good joke I love a joke I had my name change yeah oh I'm an Anderson yeah oh
for sure no I've been doing this forever not spread though so truth butts was
working his time I'm so sad this story isn't about truth but well we're making it about truth but if truth
but ends up with his mother living in the ocean I'll be happy no if sands are
truth but you know me you could trust a name you could trust truth but it's one
word is it be you TTS yeah but I thought he's but he's first names truth
truth yeah truth but yeah yeah okay all right so wait it's truth right truth
okay okay yeah truth first name truth second name but you gotta end with
butts mr. butts truth truth call me truth butts I'd rather not I that's
insane so so the investigator spoke to truth but he was telling the truth but
sorry nothing but the truth so so the investor here spoke to truth but who was
Tom Sagatari who was making 500 pounds a year yeah although he'd only been paid
10 10 10 so far truth butts revealed that Tom did not know how to speak
French hmm apparently he'd forgotten the language he was raised speaking when
Tom found out what truth butts had told the investigator he fired truth butts
by the way I couldn't stop just using his full name oh what I would you ever
but there's going truth butts then hung around for a year he was Australian
right yeah wasn't it yeah the guy in Australia called truth but and we've
never fucking heard of him before it's a lot should have become screwed what the
truth go down under swearing lastly but is that the butts that hung around for a
year trying to get his salary out of Tom because he didn't have any money to
return home to Australia more and he needed two seats yes more
titch-borne lawyers came to the hotel Tom would always cover his face and run
upstairs I mean that's normal behavior enough is that not enough that's enough
now he's enough to be like no no no way no way not right no poor Roger is so sad
he can't face anybody what he's done yeah because his whole identity is
different no lady titch-borne was so I also love that that's his plan whenever
us he just covers his face and runs away well but you like if you're him you're
like you you start this off you're like I'll be great yeah I'm full of shit but
then you get there you're like oh some of these people actually know this dude
so you're like plan to yeah so lady titch-borne was still in Paris and she
sent word that she wanted Roger Roger to live with her there the family started
right away bring him here the family started to become concerned that she had
looked at the photo of Tom that she was sent so much that when she saw him she
might actually trick herself into thinking that he was Roger I mean
there's no evidence of her behavior up to this point that would lead them to
reasonably be expected that would be the case right no no no you need yeah you
bring him to Paris I'll be at the docks they were worried that she is no more
stories only I had his teeth
do you know how many dicks I had to suck to prove this was Roger
Tom finally went to Paris on January 10th 1867 and checked into a hotel
Lady Titch-borne sent her valet three times to get Tom but he would not come
to her normal finally she went to the hotel herself mm-hmm Tom allowed her
to see him but only in a darkened bedroom with his lawyer there that's how
you want a reunion when she came in Tom was lying on the bed with his back
turned his face to the wall he's lying on the bed with his face to the wall
back turned face to the wall yeah Lady Titch-borne is it good to see you mom
course you've changed but you still look the same and me don't I just look the
same don't I just look the same throw the money on the bed and get the fuck
out get out I bought the hotel Lady Titch-borne walked over and then leaned
over and kissed him on the mouth oh what and saddened regardless of anything
that's weird this story was just about a mother who kissed their son on the mouth
at that age this is still a weird fucking story yeah and with the teeth
situation that's just like sloppy right off the back oh god great to see you my
god did you spit what happened then she put her finger in his anus it's my boy
truth butts is spoken he was named after a test I invented so so she said it's
called the truth but he's being honest he's lying I'm actually the one lying
this is not a test I got some demons I got a look in the eyes tonight
everybody she said that she said that Tom looked like his father although his
ears were more like his uncles Tom then dropped his handkerchief and slightly
turned to face her he was shaking and in tears oh my dear Roger she said and
cradled his head in her arms Tom's lawyer then stood up and said to the valet
quote you are a witness that Lady Titch-borne recognizes her son the
valet replied and so are you and that was that Tom was now Roger well I mean
the valet was there so it's pretty valid he validated it I technically didn't
have his lawyer he had his lie I haven't got another one the newspapers wrote
articles reporting that sir Roger Charles a dowdy Titch-borne had been
recognized by his mother two doctors were called to examine him to look for
scars and other things that Lady Titch-borne remembered both doctors
agreed it was Roger Jesus the Titch-borne family lawyer wrote to a Tom's lawyer
our instructions are to deny emphatically that your client is the
person he represents himself to be and to leave him to adopt such measures
measures as he thinks proper Tom then hung out with his mother's lawyer who
knew Roger growing up he jumped right on the Thomas Roger train and went as far
as to invite Tom to stay with him for a week they went fishing together
apparently Tom chose the exact type of lawyers Roger did as a boy lady Titch-
born got boxes of Rogers old possessions out to try to trigger his memory
Rogers uncle but wait to try to trigger his memory yeah he's having a hard time okay because he's like because nothing because he can't remember the things he'd never
experienced remember remember your doll oh yeah oh for sure I don't yeah you know what
Australia makes you not remember anything well Australia it's like amnesia so I
don't I've read that it can make you forget French entirely yeah matches up
I remember a man named truth butts oh oh yeah he's on the property still
mm-hmm I feel like I remember an old woman sucking dicks down on the dock yeah
no I did that that was my mouth hi mom baby I can't believe how weird your ears
have gotten and now literally everything else is different Rogers uncle was you
have a birthmark oh yeah it's crazy how that happens after birth yeah I mean I
picked Australia's weird yeah no I would never want to go there because I like
being who I am yeah and you've completely changed well it's a tough it's a
tough place remember your blocks as your valet it's weird that I'm here for this
you need to stay here you have to be here you'll bring the carriage or car
round whenever whatever the hell it is now you are you are my best and closest
friend and maybe my aunt my grandma Rogers uncle wasn't buying it he saw
Tom and spoke French to him Tom didn't know what he was saying he then asked a
very well-dressed man to come in and ask Tom who it was Tom asked one of my
uncles nope it was a servant dressed up he tested Tom to see if he knew his
father's handwriting but he didn't the uncle then furiously left convinced
Tom was not Roger meanwhile Lady Titch born had now been living with Tom for
months she wrote to a friend they must be savages in Australia to have made him
so rough
I mean she is the perfect mark like she leaned into this so strong like she
just wants it to be him you could have brought like a lion to the door and she
had been like Roger I don't know what they've done to him in the Savannah but
he's very violent but he's still my boy and he likes raw raw beef
hi honey it's mom oh yeah he's angry today
eat your food eat your food mama loves you he's got a birthmark that he didn't
have before so it's him Tom was now cashing in on his Roger this in London
trading against his future inheritance he got a loan of 6,000 pounds another for
a thousand cousin Katie her husband a Titch born aunt and another cousin popped
in unexpectedly they told told Roger to identify them the women were all wearing
veils Tom said he didn't know Katie's husband asked him a question in French
and Tom just stared at him the two men then started arguing and Tom pushed him
out the door but Katie saw a bit of likeness to her cousin Roger around the
eyes that eyebrows on the forehead and his voice was like Rogers like how she
decided it was Roger how many people like like if you're looking at a forehead
and eyebrows you're like that is very sit like you know I would never be like
oh that's him look at his eyebrows at forehead but also at this point so many
people have confirmed yeah that it might be right that I'm starting to think fuck
maybe this is actually fucking Roger and this guy living in Woga Woga doesn't
fucking know that he's Roger because he's toothless and he's forgotten fucking
French but he stumbled onto it because everybody else fucking thinks he's
Roger right Maury Povich in this era then on March 12th 1868 lady Titch born
died she did get to spend one year with her boy so that was nice
Tom then swiftly took possession of his late mother's boxes and papers as well
as her carriage and horses from the staples and he grabbed 73 pounds she
had on her when she died well that's that's nice that's that most most nothing
says I love you like going through your dead relatives pockets for loose charge
I mean imagine seeing that the valet is like sir huh what she's not gonna spend
it asshole Lord god damn you're like truth but that's some sense right out
truth but right after the inquest Tom asked his lawyer to figure out where the
family silver was kept
Tom cried all the way through his mom's funeral and then got into a fistfight
with his uncle over the formal position of chief mourner in the procession chief
mourner yeah I mean the person who has to be the most upset the head of the
family that okay I thought that was like an official position yeah funeral back
then you've been to England yeah I've been to funerals in England and I don't
remember one person being like I'll lead the grieving yeah but your family you're
like they're like animals like this is like legitimate like no no you would
have achieved more now I'll lead oh no kind of like that oh god
can't believe she's gone from the top no sadness you consume me I want to be
president of the mourners someday anyway they did not have come to an
agreement so instead two processions followed the casket normal so this is
where it gets a bit confusing the family lawyer said Tom had to prove he was
Roger in court uh-huh okay so Tom's lawyers had him go to Chile to appear
before a panel of judges where witnesses would swear he was Roger
Titchport wait but that but he no we're going to Chile baby no you don't go why
would you wait act three get on an airplane so they go to Chile so that
people who know him will just be like that's him yep all righty seems to make
sense Tom then wrote a letter to a friend he had in Chile who also was named
Tom Castro quote I have a strange thing to tell me how am I good quote I have a
strange thing to tell you and I do not doubt but that you will think I took a
very great liberty and that is that I assumed and made you see your name and
that during the 16 years and I was I was in Australia I was only known as Thomas
Castro I can't however assure you my dear friend that I never dishonored your
name or even your prowess on horseback during the time I was over there signed
Roger Titch born wait what wait so wait wait wait wait wait is he is he Roger
he's an actual other person though right Roger Titch born did this is what red
Roger Titch born is saying yeah Roger Titch born is saying that he lived for
a while in South America and he made a friend named Tom Castro and right moved
to Australia and he took Tom Castro's name okay so he's writing to no one no
Tom Castro's son wrote back I don't know so the son Tom Castro's son wrote back
it was very friendly letter and in it he reminded Tom that when he lived in
Chile he did not go by Roger he went by Arthur Orton
oh yeah okay okay that was close right away when they got to Chile wanted
Tom's lawyers quit writing to another partner neither you nor I have the got
the whole truth out of Titch born yet he is full of cunning and deceit he is not
so simple-minded as he's thought to be the trial started on May 1871 a huge
crowd showed up the family had 300 witnesses lined up to say Tom was not
Roger Tom's lawyer had a hundred witnesses lined up to say he was Roger
there were many military witnesses Australian witnesses medical witnesses
old servants and tenants a detective in London then went around showing Tom's
portrait asked if anyone had seen him that's my favorite part of all
is this is a time when they walked out portraits they walked around with a
painting you seen this guy oh yeah yeah pastelly blue eyes right yeah I know
I mean you could just do anything but yeah yeah it's fucking crazy
so a pub landlady said she had come uh that this man had come near Christmas
time and kept talking about old neighbors especially the family of the
late George Orton you guys hear that sorry no can you repeat that
there was something important I hope there's a beer a beer
show your priorities that like there's like this is already a complicated
story I'm like no I can just search around for how to open my beer for a
minute and not miss anything is truth butts back in it
they were trying to find the truth butts last time I remember the story
truth butts came out of the sky
Simba my son
okay so a pub landlady was showed the portrait and she said that this man
had come near Christmas and kept talking about old neighbors
especially the family of the late mr. George Orton
a butcher in high street she then realized Tom must be an Orton
whom he looked like then one Charles Orton came out of him I mean am I the
only one who doesn't understand what's going on anymore
can you repeat that one more time just so I can get exactly what happened
okay he so so this guy in chili has said you used to call
yourself Arthur Orton okay so this is so a then a then an
investigator in London started showing the portrait of different places
in London of Tom oh yeah in London yeah and he comes across a woman in a pub
who says oh yeah he's he's one of the Orton boys
oh okay okay sounds like he might be an Orton
then a man named Charles Orton came out of the woodwork and said Tom was his
brother Arthur apparently Tom had been paying Charles to
keep quiet five pounds a month but now the payments had stopped and so
Charles was spilling the good keep paying five pounds a month
what the fuck in court Tom said he's not getting hotels I don't
sorry man I don't know if I can afford it right now
you don't have any fucking teeth bro I don't know man
why why are you always about the teeth I mean the guy
it's just an indicator in court Tom in court one question about it Tom said
that he was friends with Arthur Orton
yeah so he's friends with himself now is that what that's what he's my best friend
that's a good place to stop tell him a guy no ask me any question about it
I know a lot about him actually less about me
I spent years stuttering and studying Arthur Orton
and forgetting who I am in Australia I think I knew too much about Arthur and
I forgot as cliches it sounds I forgot about Roger
I really did I lost myself back there you don't know what it's like to be a
butcher
they asked Tom about the subjects he learned at prep school like Latin and
Greek and geometry oh yeah no knowledge of them I remember all
them Roger had left a sealed envelope before he
went to South America okay Tom was asked about it okay
he said this is like some magician this is the best now though
like a sealed envelope but what's in the sealed envelope what did you write on
this yeah oh he said why don't you tell me
quite comp quite confidently
that the letter was about what to do if Katie ended up being pregnant after he
left oh Tom that's one or
oath that he had seduced Katie and the court lost a
shit turns out the envelope just had a
letter about Roger talking about building a church
I made it all vice the opposite what's the letter
letter says I fucked her I fucked your bunch you and I couldn't
stop fucking her actually a baby up in there stop
we have it here yeah read it it's a fucking plan for a church
same thing different entirely euphemism no it is not
that's what I call fucking these are fucking drawings dude
right wrong she's built like a church no she is no don't try that shit with us
I mean he has fucking thrown her under the boss
oh like in his imaginary world she's like thanks for the shout out asshole
it's about how I think good huh yeah wait I swear to God I made her come
I didn't just sounds like someone needs a little truth but
I think you'll find it starts dear me I always thought the letters to me were
made up until I can't believe I'm actually
writing one of these why but why why would you not just
claim like just not knowing any you know
amnesia why don't you just go the boat isn't that where you go first
you got always in his shipwreck and I can't remember yeah you're just like
I hit my head so hard yeah my memory's foggy it rings a bell
my teeth out was it about Katie French anymore have you guys at all noticed
this guy's a fucking idiot I know he's got so far for an idiot that I'm
almost like at this point you believe it yeah you're just like dude I got to the
winner's circle right I don't need a press conference like he's fucking full
and he's white at the top it's okay we're talking about a guy
who did this
oh no hi hi Roger yeah but Dave he's about to be president
like this is what it feels like
why don't you tell me what's in the letter
whatever's in the letter it's unbelievable
the best you're never going to read anything like it okay
it's going to be the greatest thing you've ever heard
nobody's writing letters like this anymore I'll tell you that much I'll tell
you that much right now this is gonna this letter is
going to be the best letter ever okay
why don't you read it to me it's unbelievable
the newspapers were given uh we're giving the trial lots of coverage the
times of London had two columns a day the family
praded witness after witness about how Roger had a tattoo on his arm
Tom didn't after a hundred three days the jury
stopped the trial the jury was like we're good we're good
we're gonna wrap this up how many days 103 days 103 days 103 days
bring on OJ 103 the jury denied Tom's rights to the estate
the judge then had Tom arrested for perjury the judge was especially upset
about what Tom had said about fucking Katie
I'm not gonna ride judge yeah yeah damn straight
Tom was in prison for seven weeks saying he was the victim of a huge conspiracy
his supporters uh raised his bail here we which was 10 000 pounds
she's and he had it all in io use yeah
will this do he wrote in newspapers asking for the public to help him he now
needed money for legal and living expenses
quote I appealed to every British soul who is inspired by a love of justice
and fair play and is willing to defend the weak against the strong with the
greatest in with the greatest reluctance I
must appeal to the British public for money to conduct my defense
people basically bought shares in Tom against his future estate money
okay so they he started a patreon
patreon you can get Tom shirt uh yeah there's also
truth butts mugs you can hit us up on teach startup and then uh
and then my mom will jerk you off under a dock
for $50 a month we threw a body in the ocean like she requested
I'm not doing it I found my kid
Roger was in coral he's coral I found you
Tom was now very famous when he did get out of jail
an enormous crowd was waiting for him the working class
got the credit for raising the bail money the titch born
defense fund committee was active all across
england with offices in every town he went on a fundraising tour and spoke
to packed crowds we're gonna make Roger great again
okay and we're gonna make chili pay for it
Tom worked the common man angle in his speeches quote
is working man's evidence not as good as that of Lord
bellow bellow was one of the rich guys who had said Roger had tattoos in court
in the next town he spoke under a banner that read
thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
8 000 people saw him speak in bradford
20 000 in manchester everyone there paid one to three shillings
the money went to the titch born defense fund
you know the worst thing about this fucking story is i've done gigs in
fucking england and i have never pulled those
crap never it's not even fucking close did he go to adelaide the question
400 i'm fucking tom roger what the
tom roger tom got his own journal called the titch born gazette
which just stirred up the public about his treatment and asked for more money
tom's perjury trial started on april of 1873 it had been eight years since he
heard about the ad in the australian paper
the perjury trial went on for 10 months which was the longest trial in england
to date he would arrive every day in a carriage
as thousands cheered him he would bow as he got out to acknowledge him
it's insane how far you could push a fucking lie
like you are having a trial bowing to people being like
but come on buy this shit keep buying this i mean you are at the height
there's gonna be like a day or two where he's like oh call it just like just
i can't do this i can't do this what would truth putts do i can't do this
shit no just go there and bow every time i think i'm
in over my head they just keep buying it yeah they won't stop buying it
i played to 20 000 people imagine i mean imagine do you understand what i'm
saying to you and they are clapping for me
the prosecution bought 212 witnesses the defense 256 tom's lawyer
talked for 26 days straight at one point what
his lawyer was a bit of a pit bull type attacking witnesses and arguing with the
judge at one point he set up tom's enemies
who are they the Jesuits
so he's interesting he's you know he's the right lawyer
right the right guy yeah he's a good campaign manager
i love it they were 26 days straight 26 days straight i'm not done your honor
more water plays your honor a little more water for me
parched over here there were days and days of testimony about tom and roger's
physical attributes how their earlobes hung marks on their ankles how their
legs moved a phrenologist had given tom a
he gave him the head bump on the head exam and then he gave tom
a medical exam
hold on he said when he wanted to look at tom's genitals he asked tom to hold
up his stomach but tom couldn't so the doctor
propped it the back of a chair underneath it
so he sat like slater without actually going down
he to look at his genitals he used a chair to wrap up his stomach wait so
wait wait no i'm sorry i misunderstood he was so fat
which i don't know if we've i mean at this point he's eating like a god damn
king yeah so he can't get his he has to put his belly on the
back of a chair for the doctor to look at his genitals through the back of a
chair that's correct a very very medical very you've heard it a million
times then the phrenologist looked closely at tom's
genitals this isn't a head at all well tom said quote
that is my malformation tom's penis did not stick out
wait what wait it didn't stick out dude are you
is he about is he got an image does he have does this is he saying that this
man has micro penis like is that what's happening here if
is he gonna stare into some like hole and only see a chair like some weird
fucked up play school
there's a chair in there but no penis to
uh tom's penis did not stick out what he had a large bladder and no muscle
connecting his urethra to his pubic bone so his penis retracted
retracted the courtroom was then tried to have any the courtroom was then
cleared of women well i i don't know if anyone needed
to make that official
ladies get out of here it's a little too
close to what you have with balls i don't know what is happening
oh because the balls would still be out right there
balls are there i think they're not imagining this there's nothing no no
there's balls there's still balls but didn't they just a little
yeah like i got and oh my god like a snail's head going into a shell
dave like the shell's still there but you know where did it go
dave oh my god dave you did not just tell us this fact
retractable penis i didn't gareth the court did
your honor the court i let the record show that his penis is
super weird and kind of not there your honor but not here
your inner can we use the gavel maybe we could bash it
out a little i don't know maybe we hit his ass i don't know how it works i've
never seen anything like this if it comes out six more weeks of winter
i wish his mom was here to suck it out honestly this is just the situation we
put ourselves in at this point
we invent i do it for the truth yeah yeah people are getting offended by a
thing that wasn't true that we invented you never sucked a dick and it's not her
son i mean she probably did yeah she sucked it
she sucked it who knows what it was like thank you she was in she was in
france for a while she sucked yeah for sure
for sure we know what happened to the dogs tom's lawyer
then argued that roger had complained about having a small penis to his aunt
the fucking luck of this guy like seriously
he apparently wrote to her and said this is exactly trump now
he apparently wrote to her and said he was worried he couldn't have children
and enclosed a withered leaf
hang on is this the first sex i say essentially send her that is an emoji
here's a withered leaf to show you what my dick feels like
oh paul's well maybe roger
tom's attorney also argued lady titch born had looked at tom's penis to be
sure he was roger titch born titch born and there's no
penis yeah hey uh but tell me one more time she
looked at his penis tom's attorney argued that lady titch born had looked at
tom's penis to be sure he was roger the judge completely
flipped out flipped out with that um i guess that um
substantiated claim yeah that feels yeah that's why he should be freaking out
closing arguments lasted two months
and also uh his dick your honor he's stammering
again he doesn't have anything to say his dick is in
it's inside so he's you know he's the guy
objection i'm just getting started here give me a week give me a week
your honor can i have a week to talk about the dick
granted if the born doesn't twitch you much
quits johnny cock
run tom uh the jury deliberated for 29 minutes
i mean they were on lunch after two months of closing arguments they take
less than half an hour and you know that they probably reached in
eight minutes they're like do you want to just do like 15 more to make them feel
good just like we've known since january
we found him not hung
tom was guilty of perjury and the jury said his name was
arthur orton he was sentenced to 14 years in prison how many
14 okay but tom's fame wasn't going anywhere post trial photos of tom out so
outsold those of royalty dinner sets went on sale that had figurines of all
the main people from the trial table what the
i gnar are you serious and then just the thimble for the penis
more salt
actual size what's what's this it's a hole
mm-hmm five dollars that'll be five dollars you can't put anything in there
but uh it'll dribble every now and then it's me
mouth formation uh tablecloths were sold that had
scenes from the trial and they were slippers with tom
titch born stitched on them tom's lawyer is tom's lawyer was disbarred
i mean technically tom was also disbarred
uh he then won a seat in the house of commons
the lawyer did the lawyer his platform was demanding a new trial for tom
ah he also said that jesuits were trying to poison him
this guy he could still be existing today i think
and the ex-lawyer started a newspaper called the englishman that was about
freeing tom it had a weekly circulation of 150 000
the london times wrote of of those who still believed
that tom was roger quote it is evidence of something worse than a low state of
education among large masses of people
it brings into unpleasant prominence a degraded condition of morality david
such as we are accustomed to associate with the rowdy population of other
communities rather than with our own countrymen it warns
us no that there is in this sensible sober and
calculating england a stratum of society about as
unaccountable and as little to be depended upon as quicksand or a quagmire
mr anthony yes why
he's got two more months of this so strap yourself in
i think we have eight more years of this
ha ha ha branches of the titch born release association
met every week in london and larger towns but slowly
interested in the late 1870s tom was finally released in 1884
he signed a contract with a traveling circus agent for a year
uh wait uh can well well not no it's not the penis
behold he's got a hole but he's a man
the no penis merman he was billed as sir roger and told stories
after that he worked as a bartender and he got married his wife was now
in oh sorry his wife mary was now in a workhouse
uh and tom was married to a singer when tom was 61 years old he wrote quote
i am arthur orton and no other person i have never seen roger titch born in my
life nor had i when i left waga waga the
slightest intention of ever claiming the titch born
estates all i was hoping for was to get money
i'd have stayed behind in sydney or taken a ship for california had it
not been for the urgings and attentions of my infatuated followers with little
effort the story really built itself and in that way it grew so large
that i really could not get out of it turns out tom had a friend in
waga waga who was from the same area as the titch
born's tom found out as much as he could from his friend quote i wish to
relieve the public mind about any doubt that they may have entertained as to my
real identity i apologize to the titch born family
and lady redcliffe for the great trouble and anxiety i have for years
caused them his confession was published in a journal in
installments when the last one was published he recanted the whole thing
hang on so he published a confession and literally right at the end just went
suck! yeah i've been permed
i like to think i mean there's nothing about this guy i don't enjoy
he had no penis no pain and he worked as a butcher surrounded by sausages
that's like this whole life of this man is an amazing
this isn't much sausage ma'am that's a lot of sausage you want to see not a
lot of sausage no oh my god it's a void
tom Castro slash arthur orton slash roger titch born died on april first
1898 on the davis funeral throngs of people began
showing up as the sun came up by midday
spectators packed the street his coffin had a brass plaque on it that said roger
sir roger charles darty titch born
that's an australian
so if i'm following this correctly it was actually him that's what you're
saying right yeah it's official he's buried next to truth
well truth's brother was turned out to be seymour
seymour what was that i like to think that that guy who
he got the information from was like roger also didn't have a dick
and he was like i'll see you in two days
my story's got to corroborate all the way through
over circumcise me doc
i hope there's no one in here within any who's upset right now or eating calamari
um
well that's crazy i when you hold on to micro penis for that long
you're in a good story i mean yeah right i mean truth but
was a side character a side character but it was a drive
by right and there was a new one there was an
old lady who now lives in the ocean that we haven't even heard about
uh i mean that was pretty great yeah all right well
story day the fuck um very long or to play pokemon uh
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here and this one um you guys might remember craig from
the last time we were here he locked us out of the venue
um they do and he says that that venue
someone thinks it might be another craig it is not craig it is this craig
um so just to be clear he did it uh
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