The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 280 - Opium in the US - Part 1

Episode Date: July 7, 2017

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine opium use in the US. Part 1 of 2. SOURCESTOUR DATES REDBUBBLE MERCH

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week I, Dave Anson, read the story from American History to a guy I know. What? Named Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Real Lucy Goosey you're playing. Take all the fun out of it didn't you? What did I take the fun out of it? It's the good times we used to have. Or did you run out of occupations that aren't occupations? We used to be known for intros. I don't think we've ever been known for the intros. Now you just took the air out. I don't think I did. Known for intros. Not at all. We got best intro. At what? The parties? The international parties? There's no

parties. If there is I want us nominated. Do you want to look who to do? I'll do one buck. People say this is funny. Not Gary Gareth. Dave okay. Someone or something is tickling people. Is it for fun? And this is not going to come to tickle you quite quickly. Oh yay. You are queen fakie of made-up town. All hail queen shit of Liesville. A bunch of religious virgins go to mingle and do what? Fray. Hi Gary. No. Has he done my friend? No. 3400 BC. Oh yum. All right what was going on around this time? Opium began to be used in Asia. Oh boy here we go. The Sumerians called it the joy plant. As we

still should. There's a couple of joy plants. Maybe three. Yeah and sometimes there's like ten joy plants. And sometimes if you combine the joy plants then you get a super joy plant. Yeah. Well you don't grow them together. You take what they have. No. What they like the way that they started was some guy had a dream about combining these two roots and then he made ayahuasca. Anyway it's not my time. Luke Simmons told me that story. It actually is your time. Man at that. Well that would have been my era. So it's from the dried milky fluid extracted from opium poppies. Okay. The Sumerians would soon

pass along the plant and its euphoric effect to the Assyrians who we are big fans of. You always have supported the Assyrians. We do the Assyrian. I can't think. Sure. Yeah. This could be a good one. Yeah. But I can't the word is stuck in my head. Okay. The art of poppy. Let us know when it comes out. Yep the art of poppy culling would continue from the Assyrian. Poppy culling? Culling. Poppy culling. Would continue from the Assyrians to the Babylonians who passed it on to the Egyptians and then it just you know everyone's like this is great. And then the Egyptians were like we're birds. Put them on our heads. Come on. You

have your TV on and no that was that was amazing because it was North Korean troops walking in formation and it looked like they had guns with dildos on the end. Oh well that's really I don't know what they're doing over there but it's they got some great army situations. Yeah. Opium probably first came to North America on the Mayflower in 1620. Wow. Okay. Yep. It was in the kid bag of physician Samuel Fuller. Okay. They said kid bag which would not surprise me on a kid bag. A kid bag. You have a kid bag. It stays with you into adulthood. Oh right. And then yeah and then it has its own bags. And then it's an adult bag and

it hangs more as you get older. Right. Well then it becomes a colostomy. And then when you go to when you go to a gym it's a bummer to see the older men with their their now not kid bags. I don't want to keep diverting but I was scarred at the YMCA when I was six and I walked into the men's locker room instead of the boys. Yeah. It's upsetting. How can that be dragging on the floor? How? Some guy just standing there. Gave me a tissue friend. Oh God. Yeah Samuel Fuller probably carried Lodnum which is basically alcohol and then you put opium in it and you mix it up and then you have a party. Whoa. Man I don't know if it

was a party that they're having. We should be doing that more. What's it called? Lodnum? Lodnum. What's yeah it's like a mixture. Yeah getting a lot all day. Call it tincture I believe. Tincture? Tincture. By the time of the American. Tink on. No. You don't get your tink. You don't get your tink on. Oh. No. Okay. I thought maybe I was gonna get. No. Can I get my loud out? No. I can't get my tink or my Lod on. No this is medicine. What am I gonna do? This is for medical purposes. I need it. Well you can't have it. All right. You can't have it. By the time of the American Revolution opium was a common medical tool. Thomas Jefferson you just used Lodnum in his later years to

help deal with chronic diarrhea. Oh. Okay. They don't put that in the in the history books. No. But there should be the the diarrhea years. We'll plug this in just in case it runs out. Oh. They should put they should put that which founding fathers had terrible diarrhea. Well I think we all know who's going on that list. My favorite. My man. Benjamin Franklin. Taft. Taft was not a founding father. Oh. Founding fathers. Sorry. I thought we were saying presidents. Because you know Taft was. One of opium side effects is wasn't his constipation which a lot of people wanted because diarrhea was such a big problem back

then. Oh my god. Why do I know that? Now you know. People don't talk about how much terrible shitting was going on during the American Revolution and I think it's an important thing to focus on. Oh. The revolution. Eventually Jefferson grew his own poppies at his. I'm shitting so much I need it in the yard. He built it as monocidal. No. I'm a leaky pres. He did it because he had so much diarrhea. There's leaks coming out of the White House and it ain't from the people who work for me. He felt so much better on the drug but he wrote to a friend quote with. Hey man. How are you good?

Poop and las. Hit me up. I like to lay on benches. He wrote quote with care and laudanum I may consider myself in what is to be my habitual state. Oh wow. Yeah. Care and laudanum. People don't talk about how. Little CNL. Our founding father Thomas Jefferson liked to smoke pot and took a lot of opium. People don't talk about that. That's pretty great. In 1805 morphine and codeine were isolated from opium but morphine was said to be about ten times as potent right opium itself. Okay. So that's high class. Yeah. Highly concentrated. Yeah. It's the sweet shit. Yeah. So therefore it became very quickly one of the more

popular medicinal and recreational drugs in the US where it was used as a pain reliever. Okay. What codeine was. No. Both morphine. Morphine was much more popular. Yeah. Of course. Yeah. Ten times the effect. Yeah. It was the shiznet. In the 1800s opium was I guess I was very calm. It was used in the medications including a laudanum and well who's going to say that. Parajork and many other medicines. These were used for everything from teething powders for babies to female complaints like morning sickness and menstrual pain. Geez. So a little baby got a little touch of a baby's mouth is strange. Well if

we if cocaine wasn't illegal. Right. We would be putting in on kids gums. Yeah. When they are teething. And then I mean we already think kids don't shut up. And then the party would be. Yeah. Amazing. All right man we're going to Tampa. You're one. Yeah. I am one. And I'm ready to go. Let's go. To Tampa. Pretty much any condition under the sun it was being used for inexpensive opiates could be purchased from local pharmacies and even ordered through the Sears catalog. Oh my god. What a time. Just get just get yourself some opium through the. How much opium do we need this month. Oh how junked up we looking to be. I can't

get off the floor. All right. I'll just get the reggae mound. Mrs. Winslow's soothing syrup. Yes. A morphine and alcohol concoction was marketed to parents as quote perfectly harmless and pleasant. Perfectly harmless and perfectly it's just a little red flag. And as a way to produce a natural quiet sleep by relieving the child from pain. Wow. So. Yeah. That was their iPad. Worse than an iPad because you just knocked a kid out. You're like OK. Bed time. Some heroin. I don't want to go to bed. Here you are. Well I put heroin in the kid. Want to screw. And even Harriet Tubman used to

quiet babies on the Underground Railroad by giving them opium. I've got no notes on Tubman. OK. Opium. No notes. All of our Wendell Holmes senior one of the eminent physicians of the era embraced opium describing it as a natural substance quote which the creator himself seems to prescribe. What. He's saying God gave us. He's saying God gave us opium. Yeah. I do. I mean I really do. I mean obviously there's a lot of abuse that comes with it but there is something about you know it's natural. Yeah when it comes from Earth there's. If things are natural they're there for a reason.

Yeah. But also you know there's clearly problems. Yeah. Opium was perfect for this. Oh. So many diseases the causes of many diseases were not very well understood obviously as we know from past episodes. Yes then check. And in the early and mid 19th century doctors resorted to treating the symptoms so pain rather than the causes. Right. So opium was perfect for this. But that I mean yeah but they I mean they were trying they just had no idea what was going on. They were trying but it was very just throwing shit against the wall. Yeah. Literally in the White House. Yeah.

So doctors use the drug for many purposes. So mostly as a pain reliever though a drug addiction was not a totally alien idea in 1821 in Britain. Thomas DeQuincy gained fame as a drug addict when he wrote and published Confessions of an English Opium Eater. Oh my gosh. Is their version of the basketball diaries. Confessions of an English Opium Eater. An Opium Eater. This was the beginning of public awareness. Still polite. His habits were strongly criticized by his contemporaries. He described quote moral medicinal disease created new

curiosity and perceptions of drug addiction as well as the standard old condemnation of the weak willed virtue lacking addict. Yeah. Yeah. It's true. I mean you give people the choice and they abuse it. Yeah. Oh yeah. Look at that. Can they. So then came a morphine. Opium Eater. Morphine was first manufactured for commercial distribution. Wow. In 1827 in Germany. Wow. Before then opium and how do you take the morphine. There's different ways but right now it's mostly orally. OK. So we're all eating the heroin. Yeah. OK. This medicinal use of opiates already widespread in the 19th century

greatly increased with the arrival of the hypodermic syringe. There it is. In the 1860s. There it is. Which enabled doctors to inject morphine directly into the bloodstream. Yeah. That's an interesting development surely. Now you feel good. Right. I mean I can't tell where we're going to go. Oh we're going right down this path. The speed this sped up the relief of the patients you know getting over his pain and avoided the unpleasant gastrointestinal effects associated with taking opium orally. So what people are just chewing on opium and just crapping everywhere. Yes. Well now it's not clogging you up

if you're as much if you're shooting it. Right. Right. So it clogs you up. Right. If you eat it still today. But so it was just like gastrointestinal pain from eating it. It's just horrible constipation. Right. If you take if you take anything today oxycodone or whatever they also give you a laxative at the same time. That's nice of them. It's a good. That's fair. It's good. The civil war came in 1861. Oh boy. Neither side was prepared for the huge number of wounded soldiers that were to come. There were 113 doctors in the army when the war started. That seems very low. Although 24 went to the south and three were dismissed for disloyalty.

At the end of the war however there were over 12,000 doctors in the Union army and over 3,000 in the Confederate army. Wow. This is a lot of doctors. So those three eventually came back. Yeah I would. Well look who's come crow look who's crawling back for us. Hey guys. Oh hey look who it is. Let me guess. Need someone to sew up arms? Yeah. Yeah a lot of appendages out there huh. Hi. Yeah I don't know. You know I'm kind of loving my life here now. Love the land. I've been tilling the soil. You ever till? You a tiller? Hey. Hey. So we need a guy to put stuff back together. Oh interesting. Yeah I like your farm. Well it's not gonna be easy. Fuck you. Gonna have to do a little something for the moment.

What? I'll come. I'll come. Two percent of the population in the U.S. died during the war. The actual death toll could be close to 752,000. We don't know. It's they say around 680 but a lot of the des of the Confederate army were destroyed when Richmond was burned. Okay so that's made it tougher. We yeah we burned the file cabinets. Right. Smart. Of the wounded that made it to hospitals twice as many died from disease as their wounds. Many factors could. Sorry saying what is that saying? So of the wounded that went to hospitals during the Civil War the twice as many died from um uh disease. Contracted. Yeah at the hospitals. Wow. Yeah because it's not a great place. So as you're dying you're like not the hospital. No thank you. Put me in a field. Bearing me now.

Have you seen Jacob's ladder? It's like that. Oh. Many factors contributed to a high rate of non-combat related illnesses including overcrowded and filthy camps. The trains were not used or were drained into drinking water or not covered. What? By design? It's just a hole yeah. So okay. So it's a hole in the ground or you just shit on the ground. In Anderson prison camp they would just shit up and then it would just go down this there was like one creek that went through the whole thing and so if you're at the bottom you're just drinking shit for piss. It's fun. Food quality was poor. It just mirrors the creek starting to taste funny. That tastes like Larry. Hey! Food quality was poor on more than one level. Boy they're really

fighting a battle in this era huh? It was poorly stored, poorly cooked, and lacked enough vitamin C to prevent scurvy. So they're killing it. Literally. Louisa May Alcott author of Little Women nursed the wounded after the battle of Fredericksburg quote the first thing I met in the hospital was a regiment of the vilest odors that ever assaulted the human nose. Well she did have a way. Three of every four... That's from her book Little Nausea. Three of every four surgical procedures performed during the war were amputations. Oh my god. Three of four. Each amputation took about two to ten minutes to compete, complete. Well hopefully they're not competing. Yeah okay go! Welcome to limoff!

This was when doctors got the nicknames old quinine, old saw bones, and long john the shoemaker. Uh... Because they cut off one and then... They had a shoe? Then they would need a new shoe. Put... Pretty sure they would be long john the shoemaker. Yep doesn't make sense. Okay good noted. More limbs were removed during the civil war than at any other point in American history so far. Union general Carl Scherz described surgeons working after Gettysburg quote there stood the surgeons their sleeves rolled up to the elbows. Of course Scherz goes right for what the Scherz are doing. They're their bare arms as well as their linen aprons smeared with blood their knives not seldom held between their teeth while they were helping a patient on or off the

table or had their hands otherwise occupied. Around them pools of blood and amputated arms or legs in heaps sometimes more than man high. Oh my god! So piles of limbs higher than dude higher than dude. Dude cuts one off and throws it on top of the pile. Jenga! When you read this shit are you just like what's going on? Oh yeah a fucking... You read a detail like that you're like and in... Some ether was administered. It doesn't sound like a cool area. No it's not great. Some ether was administered and the body put in position in a moment. The surgeon snatched his knife from between his teeth where it had bent while his hands were busy wiped it rapidly once or twice across his bloodstained apron and the cutting began. The

operation accomplished the surgeon would look around with a deep sigh and then yell next. It sounds like a busy subway. For body parts. But not what doctors should be doing. No I feel like I feel like if you're in a place where a doctor is yelling next you're in a bad place. Yeah it sounds like a pizzeria at lunch. Except... Move! Except there's a giant pile of pile of body pieces behind them taller than them. There were 175,000 extremity wounds to Union soldiers and about 30,000 of these underwent amputation that had a 26.7% mortality rate. Oh my god! Now Lister's discovery of germ theory was not until after the war in 1867 so no sterile techniques were used. Oh Jesus and these guys... I mean hospitals were disgusting and not clean. But what they did...

Did they... were they aware that that was terrible? No they didn't think it was a problem. That's why he has the knife in his mouth and he's wiping on his shirt. Like they just don't think that's a big deal. Right. But what they did have was pain medicine. Oh good well they're gonna need it. Opium. Some for the doctor? The federal army consumed approximately approximately 10 million opium pills and over 80 tons of opium powder and tinctures including 30,000 ounces of morphine. Wow. So they're really junking. They're going. But look your arms just been cut off. You're like yeah give it to me. Pat it on there. Just pat it on. It's the other option. Soldiers began to label surgeons and physicians. Was anybody putting opium into the pile of limbs? No at that point the limbs

were like we're good. Okay I wasn't sure if they really... I can't I can't really feel anything anymore. Still sort of scrambling around a little. Soldiers began to plant uh to begin to label surgeons as and physicians as quacks expressing their frustration at the medical men's apparently laxadaisical attitude toward the injured and ill. I'm just trying to picture a laxadaisical attitude as you cut off some. Yeah is it another? Here we go cutting her off. The default response to any sickness was an overdose of quinine or a chamomile that usually resulted in poisoning and the hurried and careless treatment of wounds often resulted in an infection and even death. Soldiers even started accusing the doctors of being drunk. Well David sounds like a wacky little

hospital. But the surgeon also has to mentally protect himself and by doing that he has to just check out or he's gonna go insane. There's no... He's throwing limbs on a pile. He's gonna go crazy if he doesn't check out. Yeah you understand. I mean everybody's right. Yeah um so soldiers uh like I said accused of being drunk in truth they just didn't know how much uh they just didn't know much and didn't have the time or space during the war to really do anything differently. Right. Or maybe they were laxadaisical from the book opiate addiction as a consequence of the civil war. Quote surgeon major uh Nathan Mayer with a bottle of morphine powder in one pocket quinine in the other and whiskey in his canteen. Meyer did most of his diagnosing on horseback. What do you...

So he was like WebMD. Doc can you can we just just to pretend that you care. Scurvy. Can you get off the horse. Can you get off the horse and look at him. Measles. Can you get off the horse and look at him. Ugly. That's not a gunshot. Ugly's not a that's not a anything. It's an affliction. We have laws. No. We'll have ugly laws. Put him in the limb pile. Yeah. When he wished. Ride scalpel. Ride. When he wished to dispense morphine he would pour out an exact quantity and then let the soldier lick it from his hand. Like a dog. Like a dog that you forgot to give water to when you're like coming back from a hike. There you go. Lapping. Drink it out of my blood disease paw. Who likes morphine. From the medical and surgical history of the war of the rebellion

which is what it was called for a while. It wasn't called the Civil War. It was called the rebellion. Okay. Published by the U.S. Surgeon General's Office in 1870. Where's Groot? What? Go ahead. Yeah. Opium. This medicine merits the first place among remedies. It was used almost universally in all cases of severe wounds and was found peculiarly useful in penetrating wounds of the chest, inquiring the nervous system and indirectly in moderating hemorrhage. When used with discretion there can be no question of its great utility. Well, they've always had our back. Did it stop bleeding? I mean, I think it slowed everything down. Right. It must have if they say it. But basically it was just a overused... Yeah, it's just that's all they have. I would think

that just all the bleeding would slow down the bleeding. Yeah. Right. Well, and also, I mean, if you've been looking at blood for two years coming out of people, it becomes so useful. Yeah. I mean, so unusual that you're like, oh, yeah. Now, we have 10 million opium pills we issued to Union soldiers along with 2.8 million ounces of other preparations. No doubt opium was used on the Confederate side too. We just don't know the numbers. Opiates were used to treat not just wounds, but chronic wartime diseases like diarrhea, dysentery, and malaria. Okay. Thousands of Civil War soldiers were first dosed with opium or morphine in field hospitals during the war and came home struggling with addiction. Yeah. Narcotics became even more

popular after the war as invalid veterans sought relief from constant pain. So the invalid guys are hurt in their back and they're just getting high. Well, I think it's pretty obvious what we're supposed to say here. Boy, times have changed. The science of addiction had not yet emerged and doctors prescribed opium and morphine regularly for pain management and sleeping problems. A.M. Chapelle was a veteran of the 14th Virginia Infantry and had been wounded at the battle of Gettysburg when a ball crushed through his left knee. That's a terrible description. Yeah. That's because your knee is where the bending happens. Yeah. And this is before MCL, ACL. And if something goes through your knee, then it's, you know, it's bad. It's not a big bullet.

It's not a big bullet. He noted he would never get entirely over the wound. By 1886, Chapelle was quote, very poor indeed, with a wife and child to support. He wrote to leave and only one leg to do it. Right. And there's the hopping part. He wrote to Lee camp soldiers home for admission into the institution. In his letter, he noted his lingering disability, poverty and addiction to morphine. Quote, the doctor put me on morphine and I can't stop that. Well, it's pretty clear of treatment from the medical and surgical history of the war of rebellion by US search and generals office 1870 case private phylo white of the seventh Michigan volunteers age 19 years was wounded September 17 by an explosive ball, which entered the arm above the elbow and exploded in the belly

of the pectoral muscle, making the cavity large enough to admit the fist. Okay. So it goes right in. Look at this. Look at this. How big is it? You ask, put your fist in there, but you're not you giant Tommy. Hey, let's put some of the fist from this pile of arms in it. He was treated in the field with simple dressings and pain killing drugs until it's 27th when he was transferred to a hospital. So he lives, he's surviving, but it sounded pretty on the 30th muscle spasm occurred and was regarded as a symptom of tetanus opium was administered internally and externally. So they're just popping it inside and rubbing it on the outside. I mean, were there many times when a doctor didn't say opium? He's just all opium. There you go. We're going to get

you in the mouth. We're going to put some of that in the hole in the other hole. Put some of this. This is a spray we're going to use. This is a bit of a salve actually. This is a balm. This is going to go up your bottom and here snort this going to put this in your ear, one of these up your ass and shoot it between your toes. How are we doing bud? Good. There we are. I feel great. Can I go? No. No, you're dying. The patient made a complete recovery. Whoa, what? And was discharged in December. Wow. So they just... I mean, October 30th, another guy, tongue clean and moist, bowels regular, his bowels have... Sorry, I thought his name was tongue clean and moist. That's his name. Tongue clean and moist, bowels regular, his bowels haven't regular throughout. Treatment has consisted of iron,

quinine, whiskey three times a day and at bedtime, four grams of opium. Man, I mean... That's a party. I mean, you're in a party hospital. How great would it be if doctors still were like, you're going to need a little whiskey too. Whiskey before never do this. Yeah, whiskey. Nutritious diet, eggs, chickens, beef, the local treatment has been quite simple. The gangris wound was first bummed with nitric acid. What? Bummed? Yeah, I can't. Is he surf doctor? Yeah. Dude, your body's not chill right now, okay? So you got a bum wound. The gonorrhea is harshing you. So what we're going to need to do is chill, relax, and fucking make it happen. Okay. Is there another doctor? There are a lot of doctors. Yeah, but like...

I would like one of those. I'm your primary fizz, bro. Like, I'm your pro fizz. So I'm your private fizz. Yeah, I get it. So I'm going to say, like, whatever. What we need your body to do right now is to be like, no way. And it's kind of being like, yeah, maybe. I want you to go away. All right, later. Don't do that. Do the hang ten. Yeah. Sick waves today. Complexion dusty, hectic flush around the cheeks, wound below the knee. Complexion can be dusty. Yeah. Okay. Exposes a raw surface of near 40 square inches. Oh, a wound below the knee exposes a raw surface of nearly 40 square inches. I don't have 40 square inches of fucking legs. Yeah, we're doing the math. We're inches different, because that's the only explanation. Muscles in most parts, denuded of all fibrous tissue and

of his slick red collar with some granulations. Gangrene is still extending. Well, yeah, cool. So anyway, they gave they just gave that guy opium and get him through it. Is that and there was no indication of what happened to him? Oh, that's a telling. With the end of the war, thousands of wounded soldiers returned home with missing limbs, severe injuries and ongoing pain. So as the reason I wrote those two things is because these guys have a fucking hole in their arm and their leg is just unusable, unusable, covered in moist gangrene. And these are the guys that are coming home. They're totally fucked up beyond belief. Right. But these are the ones are considered survivors. Yeah. And so they have ongoing pain. Right. Surely. And those so they're doing opium and morphine

Confederate soldiers returned to a defeated and humiliated south with cities like Atlanta and ruin besides physical pain. They suffer from PTSD and they used morphine. And one out of every five southern males, a military age were killed in the war. Many heartbroken families turned to drugs to cope with the devastating loss of a husband's son, brother or father. Horace B. Day wrote quote, maimed and shattered survivors. What? Horace B. Day. Okay, sorry. That sounded like a horse bidet sex worker birthday. He said he he's he just works on the bidet. Okay. Horace B. Day. Well, I'll tell you what's not dirty. Horace, not again. What? Let me tell them about my invention, Grace. Now, don't you sometimes wish the toilet and shoot back. Horace,

stop. All right. Just trying to have fun. I've been in the lab tinkering again. Quote, maimed and shattered survivors from 100 battlefields, diseased and disabled soldiers released from hostile prisons, anguished and hopeless wives and mothers made so by the slaughter of those who were dearest to them have found many of them temporary relief from their sufferings in opium. While it was called an army disease, and the and obviously saying that that's what all veterans were bringing was the morphine addiction. That's what they're calling it. So they're the right. The claim is that the, okay, the people that you that were forced into addiction essentially have brought it home for some reason. Yeah, basically. But Southern women

were ground zero for the morphine addiction. And not just because they lost family members, but also because the drug was now flowing into the South after the war. And women went through this thing called childbirth, which would cause pain. I've never heard of it being pain. On their lives. I know that I know that women often call childbirth the female kidney stone. Ladders, we get letters. Also, no one has written about this anywhere, but but women couldn't fucking work like if someone is just supposed to sit around and look pretty, then they're probably going to start doing fucking drugs or whatever else is around to, I don't know, occupy their time or escape reality. Yeah, I mean, yeah, you that that is it. All right,

keep going. We'll get into it. So it took off of a lot of white and middle affluent and middle class women all over the country. Is it primarily shooting? Or is are we still eating? I think this is this is what you're getting in medicine. So whatever medicine you're getting is how you're taking it. Okay, I don't think it's shooting. Right in the war. I read that it was like they had like 2900 syringes for 10,000 surgeons. It's bad stat. Not good. Edward Levenstein's when your doctor says you're clean, right? It's not great. No. So there are men now people are starting to maybe think, but there maybe is an addiction part of this. Edward Levenstein's morbid craving for Morphea. Wow. I mean, good Lord was written in 1878 quote, here begins the history of the

disease I'm going to describe and to which I have given the name of morbid craving for Morphea. Morpid craving for Morphea means you know, he thought that was great. Oh, he thought was the fucking best honey, I've landed on my title. It's so wonderful. Why are you calling me an asshole? Morpid craving for Morphea means the uncontrollable desire of a person to use Morphea as a stimulant and tonic and the disease state of the system caused by the use of said remedy. Okay, so basically saying it's okay. But there was also always room to go after minorities, white affluent people started frequenting opium dens in San Francisco's Chinatown. Okay. So we're now that's a problem, right? Because before it was just the Chinese smoking it

in their opium dens and now white, young white people are like, it's hipsters. Dave, if I can spin it, white people are the light that shines upon the problem. Thank you. You know, and you know, it's a problem when it affects the whites. And until then, you know, people are just not handling shit properly. So people became concerned because a lot of these were women, tabloids owned by William Randolph Hearst published stories of white women being seduced by Chinese men and their opium to invoke fear of the yellow peril. Oh, my God, this is really deep. This is a deep cut. Everybody's taking shrapnel. I was like, All right, this is about this is about the cost of war. Oh, well, we can always control a little race issue in there, huh? Spice it up.

Naturally, temp temperance advocates, missionaries and moral reformers were not pleased. San Francisco outlawed public opium dens in 1875. This is America's first anti drug law. Okay, wow. Okay. Many other communities with Chinese immigrants followed suit, but the private use and commercial sale of opium stayed legal. Okay, so so they just they just cracked down on the opium dens. Basically, they just were like, be private about it because white women were going down there to smoke. So the solution is to make sure that publicly white women aren't doing that. But they're doing it. They get medicine and they do it at their house. Yeah, it's just not supposed to not around Chinese people. Right. Yeah, right.

They're bad influences on you, the Chinese by the 1880s about 60 70% of addicts were female. Well, women were the doctor's best customers. They were more likely to go to a doctor because of childbirth and etc. Service conducted between 1878 and 1885 showed that well over half of U.S. opiate addicts were affluent women. So it's a rich white woman's disease. Right. Right. Opium. And and and it still is just being prescribed just still being prescribed general medicine. It's it's medicine. It's like the great silencer in a way. Yeah. The destruction of slavery and the Southern slave economy also led many Sunderers to turn to the drug use the abolition of slavery wiped out billions of dollars in slave capital. It's a weird way to say it. Having to now pay

wages along with having international competition hobbled the cotton economy. But in like, I mean, isn't that like, to some effect, to some effect being like, Oh, well, the CEO got addicted to heroin because the minimum wage got raised. Well, I mean, I think it's just saying that the like it's hard. The economy is devastated when the economy is devastated. You see what happens. Right. And you never would wish addiction upon someone. But if your addiction or affliction at this time is caused by the fact that you're like, I can't believe I can't keep prisoners in my yard anymore. I got to escape this. One opium dealer said, quote, since the clothes of the war men once wealthy, but impoverished by the rebellion have taken to eating and drinking opium to drown

their sorrows. Black Southerners were far less likely to be asked. Well, because that's the other side of the coin. They weren't sad about not because I mean, for one group, they're like, what a great era. The others are like, Oh, fuck, we can do anything. I mean, within reason, let's not get crazy. In the entire US, blacks had the lowest rate of addiction. But it's also because they were poor and didn't have access to regular medical care. So it's a to it's a to prompting. So there's three sides to the coin, I guess. Number one, they're enjoying a great time. There's that brief time after the Civil War, where they actually get elected and actually and then and then we enter the that stopped right. Morphinism, the habit and morphine

morphine eating were all terms that were used morphinism morphinism. Okay, I got the morphinism. Me too. The word addiction wouldn't become common for another 30 years. Recipe books at the time. I don't like this start did not just contain food recipes. But in the back, they were medical recipes. What they were 19th century home medical cures. And often they would contain opium as an ingredient, which made sense because you buy it all over the country. Well, the cake's going to be another 10 minutes and the heroine's almost done. It's not heroin. It's opium. Well, whatever. Right. Some doctors did begin to worry about morphine addiction near the end of the 19th century. Medical journal journals would recommend doctors not leave a syringe and morphine alone

with a patient. Instead, they were told to try to disguise the medicine so the patient wouldn't match their withdrawal symptoms with the drug. I'm sorry. So they run that back. So they're giving people morphine, but they don't want the people to associate it with the drug. So they're trying to secretly give it to them now so that they don't put the two together. But they're like, why am I craving opiates? Every eight hours, I feel weird. I don't know. How do they sneak it? They're just putting it in their cereal? I can't. I don't know idea. Try some more opiates. Those who those patients who did figure it out had no problem finding an accommodating doctor to prescribe the drug. This one, this meant no one is going to the black market to

get their fix. They're all just going to doctors and no one really wants to put veterans or women in prison. So it's just it's the solution that'll do. Often the medical solution to the addiction was substituting some other drug in 1884. Sigmund Freud recommended cocaine as a means of treating morphine in alcohol addiction. He loved cocaine, right? Yeah. He also wrote of cocaine's value as a mental stimulant and aphrodisiac. So he liked to fuck on. He liked to fuck on cocaine. I mean, is it plausible that he was just a cokehead who eventually just said enough stuff that some of it was? There's no way he didn't rub coke on his dick. Oh my God. Well, that is. I mean, is anyone else in podcasting making accusations like this? The balls in your court, Freud family,

prove us wrong. At the same time, many cities, a little for the doctor and a little for the doctor's doctor. Have you met little Ziggy? I'll be in once I can feel my cock head again. So at the same time, many cities in the US believe cocaine was the number one drug problem because it was now being used by lower class people. Right. So Sigmund Freud tried to push it, but they're like, well, no, the blacks are using that. Like it's a whole fucking. I really can't even wrap my mind around that level of that. Just is a little bit of mind boggling racism. Well, have you ever heard of crack? I have heard of crack. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Opium was still thought of as an upper class drug at this time, but it doesn't it just doesn't

make it. It just doesn't make any sense. Well, if it's tied to to if it's tied to the medical community, it is legitimized. But it's also the people who can afford to go to a doctor are the wealthy. So the wealthy are getting heroin for or not heroin morphine for whatever they needed for right all the time. Right. But then the idea that if black people do it, it's not like how does that affect your relationship with I can't I can't explain racism to you if you don't understand it by now. I'm trying to learn it. Trying a lot of question marks. I feel like that guy in that question mark suit in DC was those infomercials. But this started to change in a paper entitled Morphanism and its relation to the sexual functions

and appetite in 1892. A doctor T. J. Happel presented several case histories of children born to parents addicted to opiates. He argued that the opiates were extremely dangerous because of their addictive properties could be genetically transmitted thereby instilling in the offspring of addicts a condition of the nervous system, which predisposed them to opiate addiction. That's pretty forward thinking. Yeah, I mean, he's a little off with the nervous system and stuff. But yeah, but that's still it. Yeah, they're born addicts. Yeah, they're born. They need it. This phenomena was devastating. Happel concluded because opium caused insanity, idiocy, and imbecility. You're going to have to excuse my friend. He suffers from imbecility.

I'll have an apple. Okay. Okay, we are not at a... Two apples. We're not at a difference. We're at a blacksmith. Hey. What? Apples. In 1895, Happel declared that morphine, opium, and allodinum are poisons and will kill with as much certainty as will strychnine, arsenic, and such like poisons. So they should be subject to the existing statute prohibiting the sale of poisons to children under 10 years of age. Yes. Once they're 11, it's time for poison. Not till then, everybody. You heard it here first. You can't have your morphine until you're 11. You know that. Morphine, you're eight.

You've got another two years, boy. He blamed druggist for the problem. Quote, over and over, a child of less than 10 years of age steps into a drugstore with a 50 cent piece and a small scrap of paper inscribed with one word, morphine. No name is signed. What? No. You just had to know how to write morphine and you got it. You literally needed money and the word morphine. It seems that's... And nothing else. It seems like that's the... Yes. Okay. The bottle of morphine is wrapped up and passed to the child over the counter. A death may follow the sale, but the morphine cannot be traced. Harper's Magazine called opium the poor child's nurse. Wow. So now opium, like anything that happens, starts with the rich and is now slowly

filtering down to everyone in society because guess what? People want to make money. Yeah, because of money. And if they can make money selling heroin to children over the counter, they will. They will. Hapel also advocated the commitment of all opiate addicts to asylums for the insane. Okay. Addicts should be institutionalized until they were completely cured because according to Hapel, they were, quote, persons dangerous to the public and should be not be permitted to be at large. How are they... What is the path for curing addiction in this time? There is no... Throwing someone in a room and being like, kick it, Joe. There were some guys that tried to wean, I think, but it's not great for the most part. Yeah. Well, I mean, because we

now... Yeah. All right. And then, and then soon, you know, cocaine is like, like Freud said, cocaine. Like, so the cure for heroin is cocaine. So Freud kind of hurt, Freud kind of hurt the whole thing by throwing cocaine out there. I mean, it's an upper. You take it down. Are you taking an upper? It feels like a cure, right? Yeah. They probably were like... People were probably like, when Freud's... He was halfway through that. They were like, good old Freud. No more heroin. It's terrible for all people. It's not heroin. It's morphine. Cocaine. Morphine. What is the difference? You'll see. Oh boy. Addicts should be institutionalized already to that. Peer pressure to stop fellow doctors from prescribing morphine was beginning and would start to snowball.

So doctors are starting to figure it out. They're like, well, maybe we're not doing good by giving everyone morphine because everyone's becoming... I mean, think about it. You're talking about 10-year-old addicts. Yeah. You're creating child addicts. That's not okay. I've always said that that's not okay. I didn't. I didn't say it till a couple of years ago. Oh, god. I've always been, you know, let them... Once they're 11, they can pick. By the 1890s, medical students were being taught the dangers of prescribing morphine. Good. Yeah. So we're turning a corner. Oh, well, we'll turn it back. In September, 1898, the Chattanooga Times reported that a local doctor, J.J. Straker, had recently treated several cases of morphine poisoning in, quote, a neighborhood inhabited

by altogether a very low and depraved class of Negroes. Dr. Straker also believed that careless drugstores in the city were to blame for the poisoning and said that anyone who could procure the drug in large quantities with the greatest facility. The Times concluded with a grim evaluation of the increasing problem of opiate abuse among Chattanooga's black underclass, quote, it appears that the morphine habit is growing at an alarming rate among the low class Negroes of this city. It is cheap and produces sensations of an agreeable and of an agreeable character. Most Negro women prefer it to whiskey, although some of them take both. None of the Negroes understand the use of the drug. And as a little produces satisfactory results, they imagine that

more will be better, but thus all but kill themselves. So it just happens to be a coincidence that doctors are saying it's addictive around the time that black people start taking it. It's weird. Yeah, as usually happens. Okay. And notice in what they write up is that the black people can't handle it as opposed to the white people who are on top of it. I mean, we've got 10 year olds doing it. In 1874, heroin had first been produced from morphine in a lab in Britain, but nothing came of it. And then in 1898, Bear, a German company, basically rediscovered heroin. Isn't Bear still a company? Yep. Bear scientist Heinrich Dresser leapt on the drug's potential. They began the animal testing phase of the product, testing it primarily on rabbits and frogs.

Well, hey, man. Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, rivet, right? Right? Oh, fuck, I can't jump. I can't jump. I can't get hard. Oh, man. Wow. It's so good. And what is that? Is that just like the hop test? Is that done hopping? It's so great. We hit a frog. They're done hopping now. They also, they would, they would test it on people, basically workers at Bear, they would just go, hey, you want some heroin? Yes, I do. I've seen the frogs and bunnies. Including Heinrich Dresser himself. Dresser soon had it ready, heroin ready for widespread distribution. That's quite a statement. Bear began promoting heroin as a non-addictive painkiller and cough medicine for children. Oh, my God. Heroin. The company used the trade name heroin

because early testers said it made them feel heroic. Wow. Heroin is from the word. Wow. It was soon sold as a cure for morphine addiction and alcoholism. What is a cure for morphine? What's the problem? That it's a more potent morphine. Yep. Okay. Dresser had concluded that heroin was not habit forming. So I mean, everything was a lie. Right. Bear had the truth that when heroin metabolized, the active ingredient remained morphine, which was now known to be highly addictive. Okay. Interesting. So. So if you ate it orally, it turns into, it metabolizes into morphine, which is what you're trying to stop. Don't want that. And just a year, Bear was producing about

a ton of heroin a year. And this is to shoot? Well, to sniff. Sniff, smoke, shoot. You sniff, smoke, shooty. Okay. Yeah. It was exporting the drug to 23 countries, 23 countries, including the United States. Free samples were sent to thousands of doctors. Oh, my God. The label on the sample showed a lion and a globe. And it's called bear. Confusing. Studies appeared in medical. And his name is Dresser. This is becoming all over the place. This is becoming a little witch in the wardrobe. Yeah. That's where we're going. Okay. The bear, the lion, the world, the dresser. So studies, a positive study started appearing in medical journals. Okay. The Philip, Phil. It's all right. Philanthropic Saint James

Society. Okay. Mounted a campaign to supply free samples of heroin through the mail to morphine addicts who are trying to give up their drug habits. I mean, that's literally like what detergent companies do to get you to switch. And this is heroin heroin to get people off morphine. They gave something more addictive. In the mail. In the mail through the mail. Okay. All right. Well, that's out there. It didn't go well. Really? And remember, this is also when cocaine was introduced and was being used by Coca Cola. Things are popping. Yeah. Shit is fucking going off. And by the way, that is so true, too, because we even talked about that in the Coke episode, that it wasn't it, that didn't become a problem until black people started drinking it.

That's when people are like, Well, I don't know if this is okay. Same deal. All right. There were heroin pastels, heroin cough, losses, heroin tablets, water, soluble heroin salts, and a heroin elixir. The tag should have been put the hero in heroin, put the hero in bear never advertised heroin to the public. Well, a little bit they did. So that's not true. But they mostly publicly, the mostly publicity wise sent material to doctors to get them to prescribe it. Right. And it was unambiguous. One flyer described the product this way heroin the sedative for coughs order a supply from your job or your job. I guess that's where you got it from. Your job or your job or the store. It's a job. Just get it from your job. It's a guy that comes around. I don't

have a job or you know, he'll come by. I will have I will have a job. You're gonna get a job or I'm he's going to come by and give you heroin because he's a job or you trust. Okay. Trust me. I like heroin. The Boston Medical and surgical journal wrote in 1900, quote, it possesses many advantages over morphine. It's not hypnotic. And there's no danger of requiring a habit. It's not hypnotic. The Boston Medical and surgical journal said it's not hypnotic. And it's not doesn't turn into a habit. No, yeah, that's bullshit. But it's not hypnotic. By 19. How are you? It's not. Where is it on the hypnosis? By 1902 heroin sales were accounting for about 5% of bears net profits. Okay. So it's killing it.

Right. Killing it. Literally, just a couple years in. By 1902 doctors began writing in medical journals about the side effects of using heroin as a morphine cure. Several argued that their patients suffered from heroin withdrawal symptoms equal to morphine addiction. Well, that shouldn't be a German researcher denounced it as quote, an extremely dangerous poison. Okay. By 1903 heroin addiction had risen to alarming rates. This is just fucking three or four years in. And yet, between 1899 and 1905, at least 180 clinical works on heroin were published around the globe. And most were favorable, if cautious. Of course. It's great. Yeah, it's great. In 1906, the Pure Food and Drug Act required accurate product labels. So Roosevelt passes

these things and you have to you have to say what's in it. Okay. And many consumers began avoiding products containing possibly addictive ingredients like heroin. Sure. So people are like, well, this shit's fucked up. Well, this has heroin in it. But the American Medical Association gave heroin its stamp of approval in 1907. Good. As we've learned, the AMA never does anything wrong. No, I think it's safe to say that the AMA and the FDA will not just approve anything. Doctors urged doctors were urged to prescribe heroin instead of morphine because the AMA thought heroin was less addictive. Doctors gave it to just cause, right? Just cause this is money. That's what bear said, because bear said it. And yeah, right. So doctors were giving heroin to

both children and adults. Tuberculosis was the leading cause of death. And it came with coughing. And heroin was super helpful with coughing. And dying and dying. Pharmaceutical heroin was twice as powerful as morphine. And it turns out even more addictive than morphine. Good. But the doctors prescribing it didn't know this. I mean, it's just so fucking similar. To what? To literally what happens today with fucking opiates. What are you talking about? In 1909, Congress passed the Opium Exclusion Act. Again, it only applied to the opium processed for smoking the Chinese immigrants' favorite. So now they made smoking opium illegal. The cure is to get the Chinese to stop.

And other weak-minded ideas. Again, it said nothing about the medical opium white Americans were enjoying and using. But in truth, the act had little to do with the morphine's problems. The State Department determined that by banning smoking in opium dens, it would curry favor with China. Because Britain had introduced opium to China, it was very popular. And in doing so, Congress created the first illegal drug, smoking opium. Other types of opium were not banned. So they want it. So Britain introduces opium to China. Chinese are loving it. They're smoking like crazy. China's like fucking stop with the fucking opium. Right. So as a sign of good faith, America's like, we will get the Chinese to stop smoking.

Our State Department's like, all right, we'll help out now. It's been 100 years or whatever. Right. They did it right before a meeting in Shanghai. They're like, oh, how about this? Barrow? Right. So Congress has created the first illegal drug, which is opium for smoking. California went further than Congress, making possession illegal. And man named Young Quang sued, saying the law violated his rights to liberty and property. Interesting. The state Supreme Court disagreed. Mass criminalization for drugs was now set up. The LA Times called the new law, quote, a death sentence for Chinatown. Dozens of them are dying mostly because they are forced to abstain from the dream pipe.

From the dream pipe. That's what you call your penis, right? Authorities then escalated the drug war with raids and arrests. California passed a law to ban opium paraphernalia. There were gigantic public bonfires of seized opium pipe pipes and other stuff in Chinatown. Dream pipes really burn. Yeah. But this new prohibition cost a problem. People who had become recreationally addicted to opium dens suddenly had no access. Yeah. So I was going to say, I mean, yeah, you've created addicts. You can't just stop the thing that gives them the stuff and be like, okay, we have moved on. You can't put a stop sign in front of a moving boulder.

What was very easy to get on the streets in those days was the drug that had been rediscovered by Bear heroin. Though in 1913, Bear decided to stop making heroin. Its popularity fell as a medicine due to addiction concerns. Right. So as a as an actual medicine that you buy at a pharmacy, it's becoming less popular. But on the streets, it's becoming a hit becoming more popular. Dresser had also created another drug. Dresser's a guy from Bear. Yeah. That he largely enough, a lot of drugs were kept in the dresser that he largely ignored. But now we get a renewed focus. It was called aspirin. Okay. When aspirin was first recommended dresser for Bear to move forward with, he rejected it saying, quote, the product has no value.

Yeah, you can't put it in your arm. Doesn't make me feel good. Yeah. Though aspirin is thought to have significantly contributed to the death toll in the 1918 flu epidemic due to the fact that high doses of aspirin can be toxic. And these high doses can lead to fluid buildup in the lungs up in the chance of infection. So so too much. The 1918 flu killed very healthy people between 20 and 40, I think, by the they basically drown their lungs, you know, they drown from the flu, from flu. Yeah. But they were giving them as tons of aspirin, which made it worse. Okay. So too much aspirin just sort of exacerbates that issue. But a good amount, the amount we take now is okay. Soon heroin heroin was in the streets,

controlled by the hand of illegal drug traffickers, quote. Oh, no, not quote. Teenage boys in pool halls were sniffing heroin. Lots of people were getting on board. The pattern of use was spreading and Congress responded with the Harrison Narcotic Act of 1914, which outlawed the non medical use of heroin morphine and cocaine. Okay. It required sellers of narcotics to get a license, pay a tax and outlaw the prescribing of narcotics to addicts. Okay. Okay. So, so to sell it, you have to get a license, you have to pay a tax and then you can't give it to the people that will break into your place to get it. The law was targeted at use and associated with entertainment districts and working class

neighborhoods. Drugs became a matter of law enforcement, not public health. They didn't have much of an effect on drug use. Drugs were clearly not going away. Right. Soon the Los Angeles Times reported a quote, Saturnalia of violent crime. Saturnalia of violent crime. Sure. There's a lot of words that they use back then that we don't use anymore. That doesn't seem right. By drug fiends, obviously. Okay. Which police attributed to the price pinch caused by state and federal restrictions. Okay. So violence is now increasing because they've cut off the drug addicts from their drugs. Right. Well, now violence can only be used by people who won't abuse it. Thank you. The headline was drug fiends make crime wave. And that was November 30th, 1919.

Okay. In 1919, John Doc Pemberton's Coca-Cola, which was considered an alternative to opium addiction, was modified to comply with the Times, creating its famous non-alcoholic, non-cocaine form. I wish they still put that on the can. Oh, it'd be the best. In the 1920s, physician Lawrence Kolb tried to figure out why people became addicted. Okay. He put them into two categories, the innocence who became addicted due to mental issues and those who were recreational users who started doing heroin because it was fun. So finally, we have a guy who's trying to figure out why people become an addicted and he came up with great reasons. Kolb had a lot of sympathy for those who became addicted due to pain and using the drug and not much for the recreational user.

Okay. Kolb's views on addiction helped form the intellectual ideas for the war on drugs. The people, these, the recreational users were seen as junkies. Before heroin addicts were called junkies. This is just, this is just a classist system of separating the two. Right. So rich people are all, you poor guys. You need it. You're affluent. Before heroin addicts were called junkies, they were called heroinists. Okay. But in New York City in the, I play the heroin in New York City in the 1920s, they began collecting and selling scrap metal to support themselves in their habit. They spent their days scavenging junk and started to be called junkies. Right. The junkies became a profound symbol of defiance to mainstream America. There was a

disdain for certain types of addicts, but not for others. So weird. Kolb's research showed addicts and what he called stable persons may exhibit different effects from the same drugs. Okay. Yeah. I don't know. All right. In 1921, supporters of the Harrison Act forced the newly formed US Treasury Department's Narcotics Division to shut down drug maintenance clinics. So we used to have drug maintenance clinics to places where to deal with the addicts who plays right because they would become violent otherwise because they didn't have because there's no silver bullet solution. Here's a coping mechanism. 44 were closed by the end of the 1921 and now these addicts could not sustain their habit legally. In 1923, the Narcotics Division

banned all legal narcotic sales addicts were then forced to buy from illegal street dealers. In 1924, the heroin act made the manufacture and possession of illegal of heroin illegal. Okay. And in 1925 heroin act, it's called. Yeah. In 1925, a thriving black market opened up in New York's Chinatown. So that was just three years. Okay. Good run though. During World War One, bears assets, including their trademark rights in the US, UK, France and Russia were confiscated. And it became common to call all brands of the drug aspirin in those countries. After signing the Treaty of Versailles, bear officially lost their trademark on heroin and aspirin in the US, France, Russia and the United Kingdom. Okay. Interesting. That's part of a treaty, isn't it? Yeah. Bear would go on to become part of

the carbon German chemical company conglomerate that used slave labor during World War Two, including managing slave labor camps. Bear seems cool. And Farben was the group that manufactured Zyklon B, which was used in Nazi gas chambers. Cool stuff over there. Bear was forced to separate from Farben after World War Two. One of Bear's executives would try. So that's why Bear left Farben. There you go. I have always sort of wondered what that parting was. One of Bear's executives was tried and convicted during the Nuremberg war crimes tribunal and sentenced to seven years in prison. He was involved in experiments at Auschwitz. The charges he was convicted of were guilty of two plunder and spoilation and count three slavery and mass murder. Bear and

that that gets you seven years? Yeah, it's kind of weird. Good lawyer. I guess Bear currently grosses around $54 billion per year with about $2 billion of that as profit. Oh, Bear, okay. Bear Esperant. Right, okay. Do you think I was saying Bear? Oh, yeah. Bear. They also have well over 100,000 employees. Fucking Bear? Bear. That changes everything. You didn't know I was talking about Bear? No. They were saying Bear. I should have said it. Bear. Bear. Yeah. Bear. It's a lot of retrospect going on right now. Bear Esperant was making heroin? Yeah. Oh my god. This is when we actually read through it and you didn't get it until after we were done. Well, because I'm familiar with a company called Bear. It sounded like you

were saying Bear. There's a difference. Yeah. Sorry. I'm not the one throwing accusations around. I think we can call it a miscommunication. But this is not... It's a very small difference between Bear and Bear. Fair, or as you'd say, fair, but... Bear. Yeah. I mean, it's still interesting. I should have said Bear for you. Well, yes. That's not how I... I don't say Bear. I say Bear. Bear. I think, well, we can call the headquarters and see what they're using. In 1924, Congress outlawed the importation of opium for the purpose of manufacturing heroin. Subsequent laws further restricted legal use for heroin and it is a Schedule II drug. Today, it is broadly prohibited for all medical and recreational purposes and tightly controlled

by the DEA. Or is it? Okay. Maybe medicine is prone to fads. We'll discuss the latest medical fad next week on part two. What? I got to wait a week? Yeah. My little brain's not going to be able to store all this for a week. It turns out something else happens with this. I have a feeling we're going to know some of the people involved. Bear. I kind of hope people get that... I'll mix up and get mad. The what? People listening. You know, the guys who get mad. Oh, yes. Surely, there will be. Some guy on Reddit was talking about how I say you're and you're wrong. You're and you're wrong? Y-O-U-R and Y-O... Y-O-U, apostrophe R-E. Did you say that wrong or you said it differently? I say Y-O-U, apostrophe R-E incorrectly and he took the Reddit. Well,

I'm sure you handled it fine. No, I just said you should probably get a life. Okay. That is crazy, though. I can't wait for part two. I can't believe I got to wait. Normally, if we've done part twos, it's the same day. I know, but I didn't have time. I'm going to... I'm going to... You know what we got to do previously on last week's talk? We got to do a little recapper. Fucking crazy, though. It is... We just... Yeah, we just have no solutions. Well, it turns out if everything is driven by profit, some people get really fucked over in the whole process. In this case, it's just children, soldiers, women...

The drug maintenance centers. Human adults. Drug maintenance centers is a good idea. They're absolutely should be fucking... Why do we want fucking addicts running around doing everything they can to get money? Well, because, Dave, we'll solve it. Because we'll solve it all. It's so fucking stupid. Because we'll solve the whole thing instead. Just take care of it. Because we'll fix it all instead. So we're not going to solve that problem. We're going to solve everything. It always comes back to the fucking attitude that they're weak. That's all it comes down to.

Well, and you're right, too, with the... I mean, as I'm sure I'll be hearing soon, but the, you know, the class... The classism that is involved in it. Oh, yeah. Rich people get to go to their fucking Malibu places, and everyone else just gets to fucking run on the street trying to rob someone. And it really is. I mean, that is the difference. Like, that is so crazy. The difference is the... How do you afford it within your lifestyle? Yeah. Right. And that's it. It's not a matter of, oh, it does this to everyone. It's like, well, you don't

bother us because you're rich. Yeah. You're not that... I mean, the rich people can be a problem. But then again, that kid who killed four people when he was drunk driving and got off completely just got free because he's rich. Like, that's, you know, if a poor, if a poor black... No, there was this video. There was this video of, I think... I don't know. I think the guy... I don't think he had a gun, but it was like a white dude in like a cemetery going crazy. And all these cops with their guns drawn on him, he's being super violent, and they subdue the guy. Yeah. And you're just like... That's not to say that that doesn't happen, but there is something that you're just very... You're very used to seeing...

He gets shot. Yeah, a black person gets shot there. I mean... It's like when you see the... There's great videos online of a white guy carrying an AK, whatever, down the street, wrapped around his back, and then they show the same video with a black guy and the cops will just walk up and go, what are you doing? What are you doing today to the white guy and the black guy? Get on the ground! Right. And it's the same fucking block. It's the same laws, just different skin color. So, look, that's what we do with our drug laws. We treat people differently. Well, good. But now... Well, we'll see next week. Now it might be affecting a different person. What? Yeah. Not the white.

Right. We sign drugs. Happy 4th!