The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 290 - Dr Henry Cotton (Live in NJ)
Episode Date: August 29, 2017Live from Sayreville, NJ, comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Dr Henry Cotton. SOURCES TOUR DATES REDBUBBLE MERCH...
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not gonna do that. No. It's you know it. Because he should I mean as crazy as he
is. He deserves to make a living. Yeah. Yeah. He's not he's not like an actual
Nazi. Maybe he's just a guy that wants to be buddies with him. And maybe he get
maybe he gets a note from the company that's like hey don't talk about Nazis.
Don't do it. Hey what about not putting swastikas in your car. But it was an
air freshener and it did smell good. Oh it smells so good. Yum. I almost said a
horrible thing but now I. Don't do it. Don't say do it.
Don't want to. It smells like. Don't do it. I'm telling you don't do it. Smells like
pre Auschwitz when it was just a field. Well we all said to not. I apologize. The
whole time the whole time my brain thought it was like my brain was like
what's wrong with that date whenever though. My brain was like you're worse
than the guy driving the fucking lift. Whenever you want to shout the date.
Who's worse. Okay. Let's shift gears. Got one of your bagels. They're very proud
because they know they invented them but nobody gives a shit. May 15th 1848.
That's what it was. Yeah. I gotta do that. We'll do it at the end. You're
listening to the dollar. This is a. Why are you standing. This is a. Good Lord.
Bi-weekly American history podcast. Once a week. I read a story from American
history to my friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to
be about. I guarantee you people's heads are exploding. In this podcast. Because I
said bi-weekly and then once a week and people are literally losing their fucking
minds. Yeah. Right. You know what though guys. The Calvary's coming.
The. So wait. Where are we May 15th 1848. May 15th 1848. Yes. Okay. The. Trenton.
Psychiatric Hospital opened. Oh no. Some people knew. Some people knew I was holding
on to this until we were in Jersey. It was originally called the New Jersey State
Lunatic Asylum. They really went with lunatic for a while. Huh. It's a good name.
Took a while before branding took hold. Now they have a mental disease that can't
be their lunatics. They're loons. It's not cool. You're making fun of people. It's
not cool. It was the first public institution to promote patient privacy and a
welcomingly naturally lit environment. So they were like let's instead of having
people sit around in dungeons and shit. Let's give them their own room and a window.
So good development. Wesley Ward was the superintendent for more than three decades.
The number of patients in the hospital grew and grew and grew and grew. Okay. So
eventually it's not one guy to room. It's okay. So we're okay. So we're sneaking back
to the dungeon. Yep. By 1907 there was a window. No we closed that up. Oh no. You
know why? Why? It smells. The window. It was going out. Oh no. By 1907 there are
almost 1300 people at the hospital. Now Ward was happy as shit though because he
spent all his time tending to his collection of prints and seashells. Wait
what did he collect? He had prints, right, and seashells. He had a seashell
collection. And prints? Yep. Like a print. Right. Like so he had art and shells. He had
art and he had seashells. So he spent less time with the patients. The only thing
that's weird is the shells. Shells. Shells. Seashells. Yeah. They said shelves the
second time. No. Well where's he gonna put his prints? I think at this time
finding a cool seashell was probably much more important than now. Very true.
How was your day? Well I found a seashell. Tell me everything. Well it's quite a
tale. I found it in sand. Now I'm here. Yes. Yes. That's it. I married you for the
stories. I'm not even telling you about the walk back. Huh? No I just took the
regular route. It's great. So he spent not a lot of time with the patients. I mean
it takes a while to find the good shells. Yeah. You gotta go out and look around
and then you gotta make a print or whatever. Sure. So they're mostly being
dealt with by the attendants. Ward took in as many as the unwanted as he could
and kept as low a profile as possible. Occasionally there'd be a little blip. Like
when the press reported that an attendant choked a patient to death. How to
death? Choked him to death. Choked him to death. Yeah. Okay. So they were like that
seems bad. Why? Okay so don't kill them. Okay. Fair. Got it. Fair. One rule.
Dysentery was a pretty common in mental hospitals at the time because of all the
overcrowding. So the staff didn't think much of it when symptoms cropped up in a
few patients in 19th century. So they are so desensitized to that that they're just
like what are you gonna do? You get dysentery eventually. A lot of shitting
happening out there. Should I joke someone? No Biff. Sit. Sit Biff. Sit. Sit down Biffy.
Then after there were a few deaths Ward suddenly realized he had a typhoid fever
outbreak. My god where was it their typhoid? Dysentery. Nope can't think of
anything. Okay. But Ward was not big on bacterial infections and he had no sense
of urgency to deal with the outbreak so he was like that'll be fine. I'd like the
outbreak and casual attitudes go together. Yeah. Figured out. It was the way to do it
back then. Figured out. Worst case we opened the window. So he took no steps to
find or eliminate the source of the outbreak. Okay. Two months later. Oh no. In
June for some reason it was an epidemic. Really? So we've entered the new phase.
Yeah. So then he called the State Department of Health for a consultation
and then and then blew off almost all the recommendations. And then it hit the papers
and the Department of Health was worried it would spread to nearby Trenton. Okay.
And all of this led to an investigation by the state of the hospital and they
learned of neglect, corruption, tons of patient abuse and even murder. Well we've
yeah we heard about that. Yeah. We can confirm it at the dollop. There was a
murder. Biff. I believe his name was. If memory serves. The guy who choked the
gentleman. Biff. Ward acknowledged that he had covered everything up. It turns
out 15 years before an under Warden had been brought in to deal with business
affairs and Ward got really mad. And Warden stopped taking care of the hospital.
That's kind of a little, I mean that's a demeaning. So they were like we're gonna
bring in someone to handle business affairs and you can just handle the
doctoring part and he was like oh everybody's gonna die then. So what does
Warden Jr. do? Ward, Ward Jr.? Baby Warden. Little Ward. He's supposed to, Ward is supposed to
take care of the patients. The other guy's supposed to handle the business stuff. And he was like I want to do both. I know how to do it. Let
Dysentery hit it. Close that window. Well now they're out there shitting on each
other. Maybe you shouldn't have hired Bob. Should I choke him? Biff. Down. So there
was a hearing where on the stand Ward said while being questioned that piles of
human and animal excrement near the milk supply pose no threat. Is this an
episode of Bar Rescue?
How you getting human and animal together? Have you seen Asylum Rescue? Asylum
rescue is good. How dare you? You could be contaminating some of the patients. On an
Asylum Rescue. I put in a jukebox, a pool table, and a whole new area. Nobody's
shitting there anymore guys. Animal or human. John Taffer. So I get the I get
the animal shit being near the milk supply if they had actual cows and they
were doing that. But then the fact that maybe some people were wandering in
there and shitting. Because you let the animals. You're like well all right we've
got to turtle it. I guess if you see a cow shitting you're like I guess I'll go
over there. Actually now that we're talking about it I don't understand it
at all. What? Okay. Okay. Well now they are they're people with mental illness so.
But how did they how is it happening under how how is this happening?
Oh we're just. I'm sure and yeah. We're barely in. Are you gonna be okay? I don't
know. We're starting we're starting out talking about a mental asylum in the
1800s. Look I'm right here. We argued about Nazis. I'm hot.
Ward also acknowledged that he dumped the first patients who died of typhoid
into the Delaware River. Oh my god. What? Of course it's Delaware. Which was the
source of Trenton's water supply? Oh jeez. So so that's something we frown upon. I
guess although now the way things are going that might be fine in a couple
years. Well to be fair Dave that's where the animals also dumped their bodies so.
Okay then it's good. Animals did that. So Ward uh. What's his new what? Yeah he got
fired. For what? Why? Why'd they get rid of the guy? Apparently you can't make a
mistake. I mean honestly. So a new ward was brought in. Okay. And then the search
for a new medical director started. Took a bit longer but they finally settled
on a Dr. Henry Cotton. Dr. Cotton. Dr. Cotton. Cotton said he was happy to hand
over the business affairs of the warden so he could quote devote his whole time
to the treatment and care of patients. Okay so he's a villain. He's what? A
villain. No no he's the good guy. Is he? He's here to help patients. The way you
said it I was like. No no. This is the good guy. No he ain't. He's a baddie. He's a baddie.
Cotton was born in 1876 in Norfolk, Virginia. He was well off and would
summer at his aunt's home near Princeton. He would summer with his aunt's. If
you're if you're if it's the 1800s and you're summering anywhere you're a rich
asshole. Wait where would he summer? Near Princeton. Oh I thought he said with his
aunts. No with his aunt. With his aunt. He would summer. His aunt, her house. She had
a house near Princeton. And he's summering. Yeah. Fun. Why don't people
wintering? Why aren't we all falling? I guess we all are actually. Winter's
coming. You like that huh? Conn decided to become a doctor and trained at the
University of Maryland and John Hopkins. As a young doctor he said he believed he
was destined for greatness. That's nice. It's a good thing we're a doctor to hear.
It isn't because most good doctors are considered great doctors are considered
great doctors because they wanted to help people not because they wanted to be
great. No the first physical I got I remember my doctor was like I'm gonna be
fucking awesome. I actually one time went to a dentist above a liquor store in
LA and he was this Korean gentleman and he kept telling me how he was the best
dentist. And I was like he is the best dentist until he broke a drill in my
mouth and then I was like this guy might not be the best dentist. Well when
your dentist is choosing his locations based on liquor. There was also a shoe
store in the little mall so it's not crazy. I'm not feeling that one. So he
apprenticed in psychiatry at Shepard and Enoch Pratt Hospital and then landed a
prestigious job at the Worcester State Hospital. There he worked under Adolf
Meyer. Working a gig for Meyer was maybe the most sought after in the country.
All this made Henry Cotton in 1907 a man who had big scientific credentials
compared to his fellow fellow doctors. Also at this time the medical
profession didn't think science and psychiatry should be used in the same
sense. We'll get there again. What? We'll get there. Yeah. In the last part of the
1800s doctors had realized keeping things clean actually helped patients. I
remember that. We've talked about that phase. This is when they were passed like
just shit them and see how that works. An animal did. So this had transformed
surgery in general medicine but there was no breakthrough when it came to mental
illness. Meyer believed the germ theory caused mental health problems and
Cotton was on board. The germ theory? So that germs caused problems. So he
thinks germs. Mental illness is airborne. Well it's an infection of some
sort. Sure. Great. Germs infecting the body caused mental illness. Cotton then
traveled to Europe to study with the giants in mental health in Germany. So
when he was offered the Trenton hospital job he was some serious shit. The
local paper said quote he stands high in his profession. He was on the cutting
edge of cures for mental illness quote scientific intelligence would now be
brought to bear upon the mysterious ravages of madness. Okay. So fucking
here are the bars a little high heroes coming. Sure. He's gonna do is gonna
Superman's here. Shit's about to get right. Literally. You guys know what I'm
talking about. Shit's about to get right. When he arrived at the hospital he
found it was in horrific condition. Okay. Well we've yeah I heard that quote one
would not believe it could co it could exist in an insane hospital today.
Okay. That's what he said. Okay. Because of war the patients were all
controlled by violence. Patients had been restrained for years so long that no
one knew why some of them had been restrained in the first place. That is
so fucked up. No that's that's Bob you got to keep him locked down. Why do we
have to keep Bob locked down? It's Bob. How long has Bob been locked down? Oh you
know what I've been here for nine 19 years and I've been locked down the whole
yeah it's Bob he's he's really mad. I was just gonna say I'm worried about Bob
yeah but like if you let it no go ahead let him let him lose so it happens. Well
I don't want to let him lose. Right. Okay. So you know I don't know why he's here.
I mean what if I mean go ahead and talk to him. No I'm not well I'll look okay
I'm I'm approaching this from above okay I'll overview. Over Bob? I'm not over Bob
and I'm not letting okay. That's why he's that's why okay well just anyway don't
let him go. Also no one no one no one cares. Yeah no I mean it's it's just us. No
I'm Superman so. I don't believe that's true. Is Bob alive? Okay so Bob might be
dead. Okay just gonna make a note of that. Bob might be dead. Let's move on.
Cotton quickly had the hospital remodeled so it was much more moderate. He got to
work changing the way out the hospital function but his real goal was to start
working on his and Meyer's belief that insanity was a biological disorder. Okay
turns out he believed in it even more than Meyer. He recruited another highly
respected psychiatrist to help and then he got to work trying to find the
bacterial cause of insanity. The bacterial cause of insanity. Okay quite a
journey. He first settled on teeth. Well well whoopsie what it's the teeth the
teeth are making them lunatics. They should go to this dentist above a liquor
store. This is called the focal sepsis theory. Tooth to gay was related to focal
infection which was related to insanity. Okay well okay so infections began in
the teeth and then spread via saliva right to other parts of the body. Why
are you rubbing the table so much? It's happening. David! David! God. So he had
already experimented with curing focal infection when he was at Worcester at the
hospital there. When he was a what? At Worcester? Worcester okay. It should be
Worcester but they don't say it that way because they... Worcestershire. Worcester.
Worcester? Yeah so they don't like the one point they were like let's
not use the letters in our city. Yeah they did get a little crazy. And then they
get mad at people when they're like oh sorry I saw yeah I saw I saw letters in
there. Yeah well come on it's a silent C&T how difficult is that? Patty couldn't
pronounce it. You heard me. So in the back wards of the hospital there he was
pulling teeth from patients to cure them of their mental illness. Pulling their
teeth? It didn't work. Why? I don't know. What do you think it was? I don't know. Seems like it would work. So he's just yanking teeth out of people being like
how do you feel now? Now what do you see? Yank the molar. Now what do you see? No front. Now what do you see? God damn it. No he would yank
bad teeth. It wasn't like he was like yanking the good ones but also back then
everyone had bad teeth. Yes. You need teeth. You need them. You know what you're
not a doctor. I'm not. I'm not. So after there wasn't a result from that he
started removing people's tonsils. Oh my god okay. And he reported very good
outcomes from tonsil removal. Okay. 24 of the 25 patients. That guy's mad. He's out of here. That guy's mad. That guy got mad. Always won. That guy was like I'm not here and you talk shit about tonsils. Then off he goes to order nine shots and he's gonna fucking
back and back. Mental illness, excuse me, is caused through teeth. Excuse me. We're gonna find each and every guy who believes in the
theory of germ theory. So he says 24 of the 25 patients whose tonsils he took
out had been discharged and we're fine. Jesus. Quote, we literally started to
clean up patients of all chronic sepsis. So that's it. It's fucking going great.
What are the, like what are the, how do you evaluate a pre and post tonsillectomy?
Like how are you? And they're like I'm good. Well get out of here. Here's your stuff now and you're not gonna get
strep. So now he got a new operating theater and lab facilities at Trenton. That was part of the remodel. Sure. And he
believed this could be the center of the assault of the root cause of psychosis. Okay. But at the hospital there
were some objections. The staff were not happy that they would have to deal with post-operative patients. And the dentist
cotton had brought in to pull teeth. It was like, I'm not just gonna rip teeth out of people's head. So he fired that guy and
brought in, brought in another dentist who was like, oh, I'll rip, I'll rip him out. I could do four at a time.
He brought in more doctors, four new assistant physicians and another he referred to as a, quote, woman. So gentlemen, I'd like to
meet your colleague. This one has a vagina. Each one of them is fascinating. Meet the best dental
physician in the all of the nation. Meet a man who not only knows how to get inside of the mind of a lunatic, but knows
how to fix it. And also a lady. She's not a boy. We've got them all. He brought in two bacteriologists who had previously
worked on connecting dental decay and other conditions. He was surrounding himself with believers. Caught in, Caught in also
By the way, real, can I, can I flag what you said? He was surrounding himself by believers with people who also believed in this
theory that was now, you know, rising up. It's never good. No, no, it's fine. Now you want someone who's like, you sure? You always want
the assure. What? Why can't you believe in people for once? I mean, I guess they did hire a woman. Thank you. Crazy. Caught in also now
concluded that time was of the essence. Delaying treatment could worsen the condition. We got to get these tonsils out and even
lead to death. Okay. So we need to get the tonsils out of every person who has a mental disease. Maybe maybe your little quip was not so
funny when people's lives are on the line. Yeah, no, I'm sure you're not highlighting this for a comedic reason. But removing the cause
was not easy, easy, according to cotton. Quote, I can state that not only is the difficulty of locating foci of infection a
tremendous one, but the problem of eliminating them when found is almost stupendous. It takes patience and ability to stick to the
work of elimination. Infection could lurk anywhere. If someone uses stupendous, they're lying. Yeah. Most of stupendous. Gonna build a stupendous.
What? Train. We're gonna make this stupendous. And the run of stupendous ended. I know. Didn't even have a shot, did he? Infection could be a
nooks and crannies in the body, cranking out poison, ruining the mind and body of patients. But he was sure. So now are you opening the
possibility of just digging into someone anywhere? What? Yeah, you are. Yes, you are. No, this is a doctor. So now we're
playing operation with mental disease. Excuse me, I'm speaking of a medical doctor. I don't know that you are, sir. He was sure of one
thing. Quote, without exception, the functional psychotic patients all have infected teeth. And those teeth came out. No. So he's yanking every
patient's teeth all over the hospital. Cotton boasted that even chronic patients were recovering and could be released from the hospital
once their teeth were removed. Is there anything to the theory that once you take all the teeth out of someone's head, they'll say
anything? How are you feeling? Feel better? Do you still want to do you still believe? Do you still believe your God? Sorry? Let him go. Let
him go. He's healed. Get those tonsils out at some point to be safe. One patient who had been in the hospital for five years was
quickly cured by removing one molar. Yeah, because you're like, I'm better. Good work, gentlemen. I was a skeptic, too. Well, goodbye. Can I have my
time to be a productive member of society that I always wanted to be? Thank God you heard that one first. That was the cuckoo one. Just
back my stuff up here. I don't know why, but I just had this flash of you with like old timey tooth problem with a thing wrapped around
your head. I just think that'd be so great. I'm very excited. No, I want to go out there and make some connections. You know, what I
realized is that I was misled. And I was misled by myself. And that's what hurts most. Anywho's will be probably skedaddle. Boy, I feel
mentally healthy. I really, whoo. Another patient who was there for 17 years was cured after just two teeth were removed. Yeah, you
know, I thought you got it after the first one, but that's the second one you nailed it. Here I go. That's the one. I am better, yes. I'm
ready to be a productive member of society. Just pack up my stuff. Cotton said that quote, all teeth with abscesses should be
extracted. All this opinion may seem radical. It is the only rational viewpoint. Also brushing went up 180%. I don't know if you
know that. People suddenly were like, get the back one. A floss. Can we get. Yeah. The hospital became a tooth removal factory by
June 1920. Cotton's hospital had removed 4,217 teeth. What the fuck? What? And 75 impacted molar. Oh, Jesus Christ. I think there's
one in here. No. No, let us dig. The next year they removed 6,400. What are they doing? What is happening? 6,000 teeth at average 10
teeth per patient. Oh my God. Oh, they definitely save money on produce. They're just like, more corn mush? Yeah, that'd be good. Yeah,
have a little corn mush. Jesus. What do you do with that many? Delaware River. Cotton said quote, no teeth were removed without
ample justification. Sure. Sure. Sure. Sure. Yep. At the same time, Cotton was not down with modern dentistry. Oh, what? He
thought crowns and bridge work just hid the infections that made mental illness worse. So, yes. We have a man who has
decided that the key to solving mental illness is yanking teeth out. And in the same person, we found a guy who doesn't believe any of the
things that should be done when teeth are yanked out should be done. Yes, cool. Okay, just want to make sure we're all same
pageant. You quote, we want to emphasize our view that modern dentistry is a serious menace to the whole country. In his view,
dentists were covering up reservoirs of infection with cosmetic work, which left tons of germs behind to attack the body and
the brain. So this guy's out of his mind. No, this sounds very reasonable. He better get his teeth yanked out at the end of
this. Yeah, I got a slice of pie. Oh, sorry. He he published. You want to give me a bite? Yeah, let's have a little nibble.
Oh, that was a big bite.
Really good. You guys should get the pizza. We've met you, right? We have met him. Yeah, that's a guy we know from other
shows. So it's totally fine to eat his food. It's not weird at all. You're not. You're not a strange man. I just slowly ate it.
That's what that's what Bon Jovi did when he played here. So cotton published papers and newspapers trying to convince
dentists to remove teeth instead of trying to repair them. Sadly, and surprisingly, not all patients improved after having their
teeth removed. Well, that's a problem. Because now they just don't have teeth. Well, this also meant that the infection was still in the
body. No, this is where Oh, no, we're I don't I mean, I never thought I'd say this, Dave, but I don't want to leave the mouth.
So cotton started doing exploratory searches. What is that going to be? In the abdominal cavity. No.
Why there? Because that's where a lot of bacterial infection was. So he got that right. He knew the
right area. First, he started removing appendixes. He's picturing him now like Dr. Oz in the 1800s.
You guys have to get rid of your appendix. Okay.
But we up until recently removed tonsils and appendix is still come out all the time because
those little fuckers pop. Yeah, no, he's definitely going for the ones we could live without. He's the you know, and then
he started kidney. Okay, then he started taking out it. And then he started taking out intestine.
Okay, sorry. Now, when you mean shortening them taking out parts, taking off a slab.
So he's, he's got a bunch of toothless people eating sludge with no intestines.
And we're going to get rid of people shitting in the kitchen or whatever.
I mean, at this point, you're just like shit near the kitchen more if you're really thinking about it.
Well, I like to eat applesauce and then I make applesauce.
Come on, New Jersey.
So the first intestinal case who he opened up was Florence B.
She was admitted after suffering from what she called a hysterical spell.
Okay. A lot of you ladies know about this.
She had a spell. Well, she had a moment and now they're like, well, we're going to cut out your belly.
So she was she was married to someone her mother didn't like. And then she quickly got pregnant.
And then her mother died. And then she came very depressed. And then she had a fight with a sister
and she tried to kill herself. I mean, also known medically as being bummed.
She was a kind of thing. Now you'd be like, would you like to come in for some therapy?
Yeah. We maybe get you on some medication. We would like you don't talk space. We would,
we would prefer that you don't kill yourself. Yeah. No, that wouldn't. And for her, he was like,
he had a better idea. Quote, it was the first case on which we operated resecting the colon.
Unfortunately, her physical condition was so bad and her heart so weak that she did not survive.
What? Why her then? Although she lived for a week.
It's served to confirm my opinion, however, that her trouble was largely in the intestinal tract.
Why? Why did that confirm anything? Because she's dead. No, but she lived a week. So
a young lady came in who wanted to kill herself and he was like, let's take out your teeth and
then we'll cut out part of your shit thing. And then she lived a week and then she died.
He was like, aha, we're on to something. Or we're on something.
So he's pretty sure he's on to something. So he could, he keeps cutting people open
and taking out stuff that should be in there. But he, but he also, he's not like, he's more,
he's a mind doctor over a surgeon. Oh, if you're asking if he has been surgically trained,
the answer is no. Right. But this is an idea, man. You know what I mean? So for every breakthrough,
there's a guy who has a great idea. Normally they're trained in that field. I don't know if that,
so by June of 1919, he had operated on 57 patients. Now he's not necessarily doing the
operating. There's other doctors there. So he's just overseeing. He's just general contracting
the gig. More, more, keep yanking. He reported that seven of them died after the surgery,
but there was good news. When he was out in the first, in the first dozen patients who had chronic
mental illness, he found quote, a great variety of intestinal lesions. But does he know what's
regular? I don't know. Okay. That's a problem. I got to say, since he's a psychiatrist, no.
Yeah, no. So he's like, Oh, those aren't a pretty color. Get that looks like a weird thing.
You know what? I think that liver is gross too. Yeah, get out. Come on. The cool thing about
lesions is they can be removed. So this is a hopeful thing that he is. He's hopeful. Uh-huh.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Cotton reported that in most cases in which they removed parts of the intestine
led to good results. Okay. People were cured. But again, you like this, this is like having
like, if, if this is like torches, it's like waterboarding. It's like, you're going to be like,
I'm better. Stop. I feel great in that case. In that case. Yeah, it's a lot like that. Yeah.
Yeah. If you're, if you're trying to get someone to do something to make it stop,
then I would say just casually removing parts of their body is a good way to go.
No, I feel better. I'm good. Yeah. Yeah. What a miracle. Who knew? It would just take 10 teeth
and two miles of intestine. And here I am. I should not have fought with my sister.
What? I was wrong. I was a real bitch. Yeah. When do I get to go from here? I just feel so good.
I want to spread it. It's cool that you're all applauding a mental breakdown.
So he's not shy about blowing his own horn and he would publish the results
in newspapers instead of medical journals. But this is also like, this is the, I mean,
not that, you know, people will publish stuff now and it might be unmarried in a little,
but this is when it was just like, I said it so right about it. And papers are like, yeah, okay.
No, a lot of guys now at this point are writing in medical journals. They're actually not just
going straight to papers, but he's like, this is so important. We got to get the news out there.
The point being, you could get it printed pretty easily. Not like today with the internet.
Oh, no, no, we're very, we're filtering what we're reading properly. What company trying to
make money would print something now? So why would any media print something that wasn't
true in this day and age? That's not going to happen. Imagine. People wouldn't just... People
come to conclusions based on facts, period. Oh, God. Now we're back in the lift.
How much further? Just 35 minutes. Oh my God. Oh my God. I mean, when you're in a lift and you
look at your driver and you look at your driver and you say these words, so genocide is the same
thing as people who are against genocide and he nods, fuck you. And then, and then he was,
remember when he pulled up, he goes, it's the third right on the left. He was like from Sri Lanka.
That was the crazy thing. No, he was not. Yeah. It was right. The whole thing was very bizarre.
He was, anyway, cotton was so sure. Talk about getting intestines out of a person.
Cut a couple of his teeth out. Cotton was so sure that he was on the right track that he
started opening up people who were not chronic mental patients. Oh my God. So over the next 12
months, he's the bottom of healing. Yeah, he's getting in there. Yeah. Oh, he's just getting,
he's just getting the cure out. Sure. Over the next 12 months, he cut open and remove parts of
238 people. Oh my God. Oh my God. That's a lot of people. That's also a lot of intestine.
I hope they had a garbage can by now. Bro, you know the deal. Instead of just throwing in the
Delaware River, instead of just throwing in the dairy area, Delaware River, everything. Put it
near the cheese. Well, I guess we got to throw this in the Delaware River too. Why is this water
to taste so weird? So cotton concluded it was a specific part of the intestine that was causing
all these mental issues. It was the right side, which included the first part of the colon. He
coined it quote, the wisdom tooth of the gut. What? Okay. Overwhelmed. Did they think wisdom teeth
were weird? I mean, I think they knew the wisdom teeth were bad back then. They could impact
in the sense that they would impact and you had to maybe go cut them out sometime. Sure. Sure. You
have to have a dental procedure. Sure. Sure. But in this case, it's a dental procedure but on
your belly. Yeah, you're intestine. You're colon. Yeah, you're colon. Take out a part of your
colon. Sure. Like when I was 18, my colon felt weird. So I went in and the guy was like, oh,
it's got to come out. Well, I remember when I went to a dentist and he removed my colon. So this
actually does check out. Now that I'm thinking back, this kind of has a personal touch. Were you
unconscious for that? I hope I was. Were they? So what is, are they unconscious? He's taking out,
so he's taking out up to two feet of intestine and colon at this point. And there's like, I don't
know, who's a doctor? There's like 20 or something, right? A fucking lot. This guy who's not a doctor
says it's a fucking lot. Look, this guy, this guy has a gold Boston hat on and a unicorn shirt.
So we'll believe him. This is the guy we're going to believe. This is our medical guy.
Because I tell the truth.
Yep. Fortunately, only 20% of patients needed this part. Fortunately, cut out. It's only 20%.
He's only cut out 20% of the, fortunately. But it was not the best operation of 79 performed
between 1919 and 1920. 21 people recovered and 23 died. So how do you keep going? How are you
like we've got a good method? Well, you don't, you don't tell people. He told, he told his colleagues
in the hospital, those people were screwed anyway, because of their longstanding mental illness.
But in truth, without sir, without antibiotics back then surgery was a fucking nightmare.
Yeah. So he wrote an article in which he published his results in a newspaper reporting
on the first 50 cases. And he said 10% of the people recovered and were able to leave the
hospital. Three had not benefited at all. He did not discuss the 14 that died because he did not
include them in the not benefited category, which meant he, which meant he included the dead in the
benefited category. Wait, how he's fucking gerrymandering the belly.
How? Well, they benefited in a way in that they're not crazy anymore. Oh my God. I mean,
they're better in a sense. Well, they haven't said anything about mental disease lately,
have they? Remember when Larry was screaming all day? Yeah. What's Larry doing now? Nothing. He's
dead. Larry's better. He's better. Cared Larry. Can't wait to hang out with him. Let's look for shells
with him. Cotton said the results were quote at least encouraging and that he was on the right
track. Up until now, Cotton had done surgery with a surgeon. Sorry, one more time. Up until now,
he had done surgery with a surgeon up until now, but then his surgeon unexpectedly died.
So instead of bringing in a new surgeon, no cotton decided to handle all surgeries by himself from
now on, even though he had absolutely no training.
Fuck. I don't know. What do you want me to say?
Insane. He also concluded that those who were dying did so because not all the bacteria had
been removed from the surgery. No, no, no. So there's still some in there. No, no, no.
Gareth, there's still some. No, there's not. Why do you think people are dying? Because you're
cutting out their goddamn colon. Not enough. No, because, because there's clearly, they wouldn't
die if, if there wasn't more in there. What? I, so I go in and I take out a bunch of their
shit parts or whatever. Sure. I don't know the technical name. I'm not a surgeon, but it's not,
by the way, not good to hear from the chief of surgery. Yeah. But the thing that looks like a
worm, I take a bunch of that out and, and then they die right after I put it back together,
they sew it back up. Yeah. Then they die. That means I didn't take out all the, enough of the
wormy stuff. Are you calling it wormy stuff? Yeah, it looks like a wrapped up worm. You
should be wrapped in a red flag, sir. Excuse me. I trained at John Hopkins. Excuse me. I'm a
Juilliard graduate, Dr. Dentist surgeon. Lord, the nerve. I want the Phoenix online, asshole.
I think I know how to cut a belly open and remove a couple of molars.
Cotton began removing both the right side. I mean, he's literally the holiday and express commercial.
Right? You a surgeon? No, but I stayed in a holiday and express.
He really is. He actually is. So he started, he starts now he's taking out the right side
and the left side of the colon. What? Are there other sides? Sounds like all the colon. Well,
before he was just taken out, he's like, I'm just going to do the right side. And then he, I guess,
I don't know how that works. Yeah. Yeah. That's puzzling. He was taken out the right side and I
guess making a, making a new tunnel. You know, let's keep going. Let's keep going. I have the left
side. No more spitballing. I think we're good on the spitballs. Feel good. But patients still
died. Others weren't improving mentally. So infections had obviously moved to other parts
of the body. But how are they moved? Like, these are new people. These are, it's all in the tummy.
Cotton concluded that the stomach quote is one of the least important organs in the body. Wow.
I mean, I mean, what does your stupid fucking stomach do?
Right? Nothing. So much. It doesn't do shit. You put beans in, beans come out.
What's the difference? Dude, if you're, if your stomach was on the outside, you'd
pet it. It does so much. You'd be like, you're my baby. My stomach doesn't do dick. I say,
get it out. Make me not crazy. Well, he's got no teeth, no colon, no stomach. It doesn't want to
eat, which is a puzzling side effect we're stumbling upon lately. These guys just lose
their appetite when they're not cuckoo, am I right? Quote, the principal function of the stomach
is storage. What, what? He thinks it's like a, what? That's right. It's like a, it's like a,
do you, have you ever had a hamster? Answer the question. Did you ever have a hamster when you
were a child? Yes. What do hamsters do? Where do they put their food? Where do they put their food?
This is the stomach. They put it into pouches on the side of their mouth. Okay. When you give
them a bunch of seeds, they pack it out on the side. Same thing. You know the mouth is on the
stomach, right? Same thing. So he, in his head, we're just like camels pre-desert, just like,
all right, well, I'm good for winter. Time for a napsy doodle. If I may use, if I may use some of
his medical jargon, I think if you, if you eat a bunch of food, it gets put into a shed here.
I could stop you there. I could stop you later. And then it slowly, and then it slowly toots into the
worm parts. If I may use medical terminology. You know, you just, you're losing me on the worm
thing. I'm just, there's a worm inside you. There's a wrapped around worm thingy. And then it comes
out and then at the end it comes out into a poop hole. Well, you're a doctor, obviously. We had to
cut that out. So quote, the principal function of the stomach is storage. The stomach is for all
the world like a cement mixer often used in the erection of large buildings and is just about as
necessary. What? The large bowel is similarly for storage. And we can dispense with it just as freely
as with the stomach. Sorry. Okay. So you can make that case because there nobody talks about facts
in that era. What's the cement mixing thing? Okay. So what he's saying is with the stomach,
all it does is just kind of like move stuff around in a big circle. Hold on. I'm talking about medical
stuff. So if you put, let's go back to beans. If you put beans in your tummy, your stomach turns it
around with water and then makes something to build buildings with. And then and then it goes
into the intestine, which does the same thing. It's the same. It's all it's almost redundant.
So you can easily get rid of one. Anyway, this is my oral test for John Hopkins. And I would
like to thank you. So he just pictures a spinning mixer in the stomach. That's the opposite of
storing though. Well, it's a spinning storage situation. All right. Okay. Like it's not like
if you see a cement truck, you don't you don't think well, that's not storing it. It's just spinning
it. It's storing and spinning. No, no, no, it's about to get poured. Okay. What? Huh? What'd you
fucking say? Someone's going to pour it right now. If it's getting mixed, they're going to pour it
because otherwise it dries and ruins the mixer. That's why it's spinning. Right.
Stomachs and people's bowels were removed. Snip snip. But still people died.
Really? Others were not cured of their mental illness. So it became suspicious of the thyroid
gland. No. So what? He's just he's just it's just spreading. He's just like we need to keep going.
What? You need to remove every organ. How do you feel, Diane? Weird. Weird. Another death.
But there's bacteria in the heart and brain. She's in the cured pile.
Pile? Pile indeed.
I told you, he's a shiny Boston hat.
I'll start again. I'll start again. Oh, I'll start again. I don't care anymore.
So the thyroid
were coming out. And then obviously there is a difference between men and women.
We all know that. You guys have Annie's. We have Audi's.
Quote, in female patients, the colon is involved twice as often as in male cases.
So you guys have bad shit pipes.
These cervix is infected in about 80% of cases. Oh, Dave. No, no.
No. Am I the only one getting hard right now?
Because shit is getting hot. Dear penthouse. My God.
I never thought I'd be riding one of these, but here I am. I went into the Trenton hospital
for the insane. So I slowly removed her colon. Like a dress I was unzipping before fornicating.
Then the lower intestine came out. Hot, wet. My juices were flowing. She'd passed away 20 minutes earlier.
Okay. I hope nobody brought their mom to this.
So the good results, quote, the good results obtained from an
anacleating the cervix have convinced us of the importance of this lesion. Jesus Christ.
Definition of anacleate. I don't want to know because surgically remove
intact from its surrounding. That's correct. He started taking out women's cervixes.
And he's not a, oh my God. Fortunately, in most cases, the ovaries and
fallopian tubes did not have to be removed. Fortunately, in most cases, which was in most
cases, which was good because cotton said they produced secretions which were important to women's
health. So they, they, they, they, so flubbing tubes and ovaries, they're, they make the water
part for the, just that, yeah. They create a liquid for vaginas. Oh my God. Hello. I'm a
doctor. Actually, I'm smarter than this cunt. I'm a better doctor than him. And I'm just a guy
who's drinking beer and I don't know shit. I don't know shit. Honestly. Truly. Like, seriously,
we are better doctors than this guy. I know. I know. He's, I know. It's a terrible era and
it's a guy who's swinging for the fences. But literally, if we were on the staff, we'd be like,
I mean, I'd be recording you to post on Instagram. Like, get this shit. Dave is pissed about this
cervix surgery. Really standing up over here. No, man, I'm just saying, like, they don't have a
mental illness anymore. A lot of them. Yeah. But a lot of them are fucking dead. I mean, dude,
numbers are numbers. So I've hit a cervix or two. Men were not spared.
Men were not spared of cotton, cotton sexual part surgeries. I mean, it's weird. It's honestly
so weird in my head to be like, good, good, good. But, but this delicate surgery, oh,
no, he turned over to outside consultants. Oh, so now that he's like, Oh, I don't want to get sloppy
with a man's dick. The cervix I can just bumble around on but bring into a man's testes. I want
a fucking guy who knows what he's doing in there. So all these consultants were on board and the cure
for mental illness, they're like, yep, let's get this done. So Dr. Smith. What are they taking
off of the men? Oh, we're waiting. Okay, sorry. Sorry. He would send them out and a Dr. Smith of
New York found that at least 50% of chronic mental illness cases in men showed infection
of the testicles. Oh my God. I mean, I knew it was going to be one of the big two.
There's one or the other. Yeah, it's just did you rather have your dong cut off or your testicles?
He's like the Bob Parker Game of Thrones who worked out for that guy.
Well, Ted, what we're going to do is take your balls, but we've got a professional.
I'm going to go toy with this woman for a little while. I don't know how to shake out.
Patients were castrated quote with gratifying results. Oh my God. For who? Well, by the way,
though, when you're fucking with sexual organs, you'll probably see an attitude shift.
Things will probably be a little different. Jose, calm down. Yes.
Jose, calm down. He used to jump in my suitcase every time it was out. Now he's like, nah, I'm
I can't believe Springsteen didn't come. Is that official? He was on the list.
He was like your show's into seven hours. No.
Yeah. The longer this went on, Cotton discovered more problematic areas of the body.
What's left? Gallbladders and sinuses were removed. Oh, shit. Now you can't smell my bullshit.
Quote, in many, in many of the cases, it has been necessary to do several operations,
such as resection of the colon, an accretion of the cervix, colistectomy of the hysterectomy,
an euphorectomy, euphorectomy, and repair of the perineum. So I don't know half those are,
but it's sound an euphorectomy sounds fucking hot. Do you know what that is? And yeah,
that's ovaries. So he's taking that over. So he lied to us. Isn't that the same?
He fucking lied to us. Isn't that what a hysterectomy is?
No, Dave, a hysterectomy is what you do to me every week. You do the whole
the hysterectomy is the whole thing. And then the the euphorectomy is just a little,
if I may, if I may use a diagram, I'd part right up there.
So what is he, what is, what, let's start with a list of what's left in the body.
Uh, no, there's a lot of heart-brain kidney. No bacteria in there.
Occasionally allegations would arise that cotton was abusing patients.
Were those the publishings that he put out there?
But he always seemed to placate his critics once he avoided scrutiny by replacing all of his male
nurses with female ones saying, quote, men are naturally too rough with the patients.
The New York Times said that cotton believed the presence of women nurses was
restful to the diseased mind. Okay.
That's not crazy, right? Do you think in a way there's more, uh, I think, I mean, do I think
there's, there's going to be less physicality and maybe a little female? I mean, medically,
I've always thought women lessen better than men. That's always been my opinion, but, but, uh,
but in this case, I think, I think I've seen, uh, who flew off the cuckoo's nest and, uh,
that doesn't agree with this. No, I think you look at me, you can't nurse ratchet everyone.
But I think anybody who put in a situation with these, with these sort of people at this time
are going to be fucking cruel to them. So we're dealing with a Stanford. It's sort of like
anybody who goes near there is going to be, okay. I thought I'd say that women had handled it better
and backfired. And that, that happens in Trump's America, guys. But seriously, women,
women doctors listen better. That's what I mean. It's true. Fuck you. No, I would, I would.
True. It was just booed. Fuck you. It's true. It has to be true. Men doctors are like, Hey,
I'm God. I'm going to be women. They trust me. I'm old. It is sexist. It's totally fucking sexist.
You want to print sexist? You can be a little ist if it's right.
What? It's not what Trump says? No, Trump doesn't say that. Trump is too busy having a Nazi party.
I'm racist. Good is. I'm sorry if I was too hard on men doctors.
I know you guys have had a rough, a rough ride. There's actually
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A typical patient was a Miss Llewellyn. She was admitted to Trenton for a second time due to
depression and anxiety. She had previously been to the hospital, which I'm actually surprised at
because I thought back then depression and anxiety would be like, yeah, it's all of us.
No, Dave, that's now. It's like 1900. We're all, it's fucked. That's what you should be feeling.
Like that's like, well, I don't know. Sometimes the fact that my mouth is rotting a poop outside.
All I drink is whiskey and people are shooting each other gets me down.
Yeah, but that's us. That's us. At least we got somewhere to spit.
She had previously been to the hospital. So she'd previously been to this hospital before
Cotton had taken over. So she's like, I'll go back there and get fixed again.
Jesus Christ. There's not an under new management sign.
I'm going to give someone a heads up. So after the examination, Cotton went right to work.
Out go the teeth. Oh, God, her teeth are out now. She's like, last time.
Can I see the guy I shot last time? He was great. You've removed what I chew with.
She then had her stomach removed. Jesus Christ.
And the right side of her colon. This is quite a montage.
Now, now for some weird reason, she remained depressed.
So then he took out her thyroid. Oh, God. After that, her entire colon.
Oh, my God, what still this, what she could only lay now this stubborn, resistant woman is not
getting better. Jamie, this is one of those situations where you're just like, he took out
your better her fallopian tubes and her ovaries and her cervix. Oh, my God.
What is this? She was given afternoon. She was then given three series of vaccine treatments.
Okay. Now, I haven't talked about the vaccine treatments.
Oh, God. So what do you do is you would drill a hole into the brain? Wait, wait, wait, what?
What is this? Why are we just talking about a medical procedure? So he's drilling holes in
brains. So he drill a hole through the skull and then he would directly inject dead
staff cells into the brain. You all looking, it all makes sense. We'll understand why anybody
would do this. But so wait, so he did this to her three times, but unfortunately one,
I guess one of the times the staff cells were live. I mean, that happens where we do that.
So what did she die from Dave? Well, she did in this Kentucky derby of fuck ups. She didn't.
She died. No, she was discharged. She was recovered. She was recovered. She's fine.
Shut up. She's fine. She had all of her stuff taken out and some shit squirted into her brain and
she's all good. She's dead. She's dead. She's good. Now she's out in Jersey somewhere, running around
with an umbrella and having a fucking... Actually, she drives for lift. She's in Trenton. She's like,
hey, I'm the brella. I'm on the park or whatever. She's doing that shit, right? One of the Springsteen
songs. She's in it. So she obviously died. No, she didn't. She didn't die. No, she lived and left,
but she just a lot lighter. Yeah. Yeah, I should think she is. She lost a lot of weight. Yeah.
What's your secret? I don't want that.
Between July 1918 and July 1925, Cotton and his staff performed 6th... Sorry.
2,186 major operations. I genuinely thought when you said 6th, the fuck up was going to be like
600 and we were still in the thousands. Not everyone agreed to these fantastic surgeries.
It was becoming hard to keep it a secret in the hospital. Stories began to surface in the local
press about patients being dragged, screaming and fighting all the way into the operating theater.
So I guess we had a bunch of blabber mouths in the hospital.
You say theater. This is when they had a theater for operating. It wasn't just so people were watching
this. Also... Tonight we're doing Romeo and Juliet. Take out every organ. Now you're at a point where
so many people have no teeth and all their shit missing that if they come for you, you're like,
thank you. Yeah. So everyone in the hospital knows what the fuck's going on no matter their degree
of mental illness. They're like, no, you guys are really fucked. Absolutely. I mean, that just
has... I can't even imagine being in the headspace where you live in that and you're just like,
oh no, they're coming. I mean, every minute of your fucking life is like, oh god.
Now the patients are all fighting back and being dragged in to have their shit removed.
Literally. Cotton wrote in a paper that protests from patients and their families must be
ruthlessly pushed aside as short-sighted reflections of the patient's mental disturbance
or just lack of knowledge. Right. Sure. Quote, if we wish to eradicate infections, we must bear
in mind that it is only by being persistent often against the wishes of the patient.
So you've removed the idea that they have emotion now? Well, they're not allowed to
because it's wrong. They're wrong. Yeah, they're wrong. Right. Because they haven't had their teeth
in colon and genitals. If you look at it from my perspective, unless you've seen the joy of
removing a human's colon, like a living human, unless you take out their shit part,
the pipe that does that, you don't know what it's like to just feel love.
Hi, I'm a doctor. Are you? Doubling down, Cotton then decided early intervention was the best way
because deaths meant his cure came too late in the process. Quote, why should the patient run the
risk of developing a psychosis when this danger may be minimized or avoided? So Cotton recommended
screening for all school children. No, no, no. Oh my God. Preemptive. You cannot give this.
What's the difference between this and vaccines? Many differences.
Hundreds. What are the similarities? Let's go there. Well, so, so instead of getting a vaccine
for smallpox, you get your colon removed at eight.
Cotton, sorry. Quote, who they may be harboring infection at that time, which will later produce
a psychosis. And he added, as strange it seemed to the layperson, those children who seemed incredibly
bright and gifted were often those who had infections. Oh my God. This was because an
infection of the brain would first stimulate mental activity. It's so fucked up to actually draw the
conclusion that the thinkers are the ones who need to go. The thinkers are we got to remove their
insides. Yeah. But it feels like there's like one kid in every class. You could be like, go toy with
him a little bit. But he feels like unconsciously he's, he's attacking those who would be the first
person to go, no, that doesn't sound right. Yeah, exactly. Right. Exactly. He does it. Does it.
Come right here. Even if they're like, Hey, the kid would be like, I don't think that sounds good.
You know what? We are, Jimmy, come with us real quick. It doesn't sound right. Does it? We're
going to make it sound right. Does that sound right to you? Come with us into this little room.
Now put your hands in the straps. We're going to make it sound right slowly, but surely we're
going to start with the teeth and move south. Many people are on board with his theories at
this point. Cotton brag that he'd operated on the colons of a six year old and an eight year old.
And that when his son showed quote, a mark change of disposition, shut the fuck up. So
he's out of his fucking tits at the age of 13. So he is genuine. He believes the shit. He took
out his son's third molars and the boy went back to normal. Since this went well, Cotton next had
all the teeth removed from both of his sons. Oh my God. But apparently that didn't work on the
youngest one. So he took out some of his colon. Oh my God. Are you done saying I
are you done saying I won't do the dishes, Jimmy? Yeah. Should I remove your God letter?
No, I'm excited. You're a good dad. I mean, it's such a natural right of your early teenagers
specifically to be very crazy and assolish to your parents, but not when they'll cut out your
dick or whatever. Like, like this is the ultimate like no, no, you know, you will not talk back
to me. You're now also you're now also having to have sort of like domestic dialogues with
your wife about, you know, I was thinking of removing Jimmy's penis.
What are you eating? What are you eating? It's just the other day I was talking to him.
He's got this attitude at 13 that I didn't display. And I really think after the teeth,
we've seen a little growth. Let's get the balls and penis off. You know, are you doing something
new with the ragu? Because I'm like, yes, way better. I just want to, I just want to keep my
cervix. That's all. We'll see what you think about. I love you. I love you. You're right.
You're right. You're right. I love you. I love you. You're right. Someone's keeping their genitals
tonight. I love you, sugar bug. All right. Well, go to bed. I'm going to cut his balls off and
then I'll be inside. Oh, I feel weird. Oh, you do? Well, there's a solution for feeling weird.
I get your right. Cut that boy's balls off. My son is a monster. Oh, he is, isn't he?
You know, I think we might have to take that head off at some point.
All right. What if once instead of cutting out our son's testicles and my cervix, you made me come?
Why darling, that's going to take more than three pumps and I think we need to get into that tummy
of yours. You are talking crazy. Are you not satisfied in the bedroom? Is there something
I'm not doing? You don't want me to touch it, do you? Because that's cuckoo and I know cuckoo.
He also revealed that he removed colon from young boys to stop them from masturbating.
I'm sorry. Everything we've heard, that's the most fucked up thing we've heard.
I mean, how do we stop this horse from galloping?
Jesus Christ. Like, that's all they're supposed to do. That's all they have. That's all you have.
Literally. Literally from 10 to 14 to 30. Yeah. The reason why that's your whole goal.
That's the whole job. The reason why school exists is to stop teenage boys from masturbating eight
hours a day. That's right. And even then they work in a couple. Even then they got a couple
road games a week and they play hard. Stopping teenagers from masturbating. If you could harness
that energy, we could power the earth. Oh my God. Oh my God. Fuck nuclear energy. Fuck wind.
Don't need it. Harness that shit. Yeah. Different spills, but more acceptable.
I'm in New Jersey, right?
Now, Cotton was all about self-promotion and getting the word out about his cure.
The entire time he cut out people's parts, he waged a PR campaign in newspapers.
There's that word again. PR campaign. He also published in state and national medical journals
as well as dental journals. He spoke often at universities and medical societies,
and he traveled to hospitals up and down the east coast to explain the virtues of cutting
the parts out of people. So if you're reading a dental magazine and it gets into like genital
removal. Well, this seems, I feel like I was reading about dentistry. Is this not,
where's the tongue article? This is all about removing genitals, genital stomach, stomach,
colon, genitals, vaginas, molars. Oh, that's where crazy comes from. That's good to know.
Everywhere he claimed a 85% success rate. Of course. Of course. Four out of five dentists
recommend. It worked. By July 1921, a large number of psychiatrists, surgeons, and administrators
around the United States were following in Cotton's footsteps. So now it's spreading and
they're cutting out parts of people and they're like, it's good. In July 1920, the governor of New
York got funding to have a resident dentist in all New York state mental hospitals. So now in
every mental hospital in New York state, which is probably two, they had a dentist
flying high and with the board loving his work, two new buildings were built at Trenton Hospital.
Holy shit. The president of the American Medical Association was on hand for the opening and said
Cotton was quote, a pioneer in this line of work. Thanks to Cotton, the treatment of the psychosis
is surrounded by medical science and not set apart from it. What is the timeline of the beginning
of this to where we are now? How many years? 20 years? Five years? Today? No, no, no, no, no,
sweet David. No. This is a while ago. Yeah, I understand. This is a history podcast. Yeah. Okay.
When he started to when he was kind of finished, what kind of run are we talking about here?
Oh, well, we're not Tori's finished yet. But he's he at this point, he is at the peak like this
is like he started he started he took over 1907. Now it's 13 years later. Okay. So in like 14 years,
yeah, he's been doing this for a while. He's spreading cutting out. Oh, shit is taken off.
Good. Good to hear. Finally. Great industry.
So the president of the MA, his endorsement of cotton was very significant. The president
of the New Jersey Medical Society was also there and said cotton's work was quote one of the greatest
advances in the field of medicine. So part of it is that is that doctors are like, look, man,
I mean, we can fucking make money off some doing some surgeries. Like to them, it's like we got
this too. So it's like, right, right now, truly in the world, if you have a mental illness,
that's it, you're done. You're finished as a person. They put you in a thing. So now there's
this guy that's come along and he goes, let's cut parts out. And everyone's like, okay, we can fix
these people instead of they're fucked. So to doctors, it's like, this is great, I can be a part
of this. So they're all jumping on board. So even doctors who weren't convinced of the cure now
started backing cotton because they were because it convinced people that insanity should be treated
like any other disease with surgery, which is insanity. That is a very, I mean, it's a conundrum.
Now rich, rich patients. Oh, God. So families of people who are crazy, who are rich,
and, and actual people who are having issues start flooding in for this cure. The hospital
business manager said that cotton's efforts had saved hundreds of thousands of dollars,
quote, voluntary patients who have paid more than $50,000 for cotton's treatment raised the
prospect that a large part of the of the asylum section at Trenton Hospital can be abandoned
before long. Yeah, because they're dying. That's how you save a lot of money when they're dying.
When they're, I don't, for me, it doesn't feel as bad when someone pays $50,000 to die.
Just because it's like, okay, that's cool. I mean, that totally would be like the Kardashian
thing. It would happen for like three years. And then it would be like, Oh my God, Chloe's dead.
She just wanted to be like the rest.
Across the country's doctors reported patients and families were coming to them
and demanding that parts be removed. People are coming to take my balls and I'm not leaving with
a no. Don't jack me around, Jack. I want them gone. I came here with a to-do list. It's balls,
belly, and then I'm better. There's no way I'm not crazy because of my asshole. Get it out.
I'm his roommate. He's just some country doctor in Ogden.
What's a who's it? We want my son's right ball removed in my left. We're arguing.
Frank talk. Families urge doctors to remove teeth, tonsils, and guts to get rid of their
madness. Sure. Madness had never been curable until now. The condition that caused family
shame was now being soon in a scene in a new light, an infection that had treatment. Great.
John Harvey Kellogg. Well, here we go.
Was a big cotton supporter. Of course. Cotton had a patient named Margaret Fisher. Her father was
very wealthy and a very well known Yale economist. Her father believed in Kellogg and would often
take the whole family to his sanitarium for treatments. Oh, God. And Kellogg believed in
cotton's germ theory. So when Fisher's daughter began to have mental health issues, she was diagnosed
as schizophrenic by doctors in Bloomingdale. This was a damning sentence for a young woman. So her
father rushed her down to Trenton and put her under the care of cotton. He gave her a thorough
examination and determined she was ill because of a, quote, retention of fecal matter in the colon.
Okay. So real quick. That's actually where I retain it. If I can just
go ahead and throw this up. That's actually where I keep it. If I'm not retaining it, it's in the
toilet or, or by the milk area of the sanitarium. I'm very curious to see if this requires surgery,
because so far what I've heard is she needs to take a shit. Interesting. He first injected her
with the anti strep serum and vaccine. Not good for the start. When that didn't work, the colon
needed to come out. Obviously. So he takes out the colon and then he takes out her cervix, which
was clearly a problem. Then cotton opened up, opened her up again. And a big, but when he
opened up this time, there was a big old glob of strep infection. It turns out the anti strep
serum and vaccine, which was supposed to contain dead strep that actually had live strep. We've
heard about this. And so he, he killed her. But this was not never revealed. Her father remained
a solid backer of her and would argue until his death that cotton was right. So this guy who
just fucking murdered her daughter with like, almost Nazi-esque experimentation, he was like,
that guy was right. You tried. I've got more kids. Let's fix them together. You're my best friend.
You complete me. Do me. Do me, buddy. You do me, I do you. Your eyes look weird. You do me,
I do you. Take a look at your eyes. Let's do a 69 surgery. You and me same time. Face to issue,
face to issue. You're my bell. I love you, buddy. You got a friend in me. It's the beard.
It doesn't help any bit. It's genuine creep now. So now not everyone is convinced by
cotton's focal infection, infection theory. Some refuse to believe that major psychosis could be
caused by infection. Cotton's bitterest critic was George Kirby, who had also studied under
mayor and had taken charge of the New York Psychiatric Institute. So with two other doctors,
he did a study using human people. Sure. Well, start there. So this is the study. They put 60
people in. Oh, hi. Thank you. Thank you very much. Hi. Just the one for both of us. Can we get two
straws? What? It's a what? Oh, thank you. I agreed. No, you're right. And this is not just for me.
I don't need to have my friend. You're a very nice person. Thank you. She was correct also.
So that's why you wear a unicorn shirt to a show. Because that shit that just happened was magic.
Okay, I got a free beer. What's happening right now? Now there's a lot of hook it up there at the
end. So they had 60 people that they operated on and 60 people that they didn't. So that was
like their version of a control group. Right. So to prove a guy wrong. So basically, if you're
summing up the experiment, to prove a guy wrong, they just cut the shit out of 60 people. And then
they were like, those guys are not them. How they took out teeth and tonsils and sinuses and
cervixes. It sounds like a doctor's sous surgery. The cookies were loosey with no more snoozies in
their boozies. Yes, he'd snip, tip, tripped and everything he needed to dip. Dr. Cuckoo was again
on a massive trip. Tripper or drop, he was right on top. He was the doctor that no one could stop.
No, you're done. Okay. I know, baby. I know. So you, so just so you know, just so you know,
you guys blew that because here's what you do with him. Once he starts, once he starts improvising,
if you don't applaud or give it that thing, he has to keep going. And so you could have made that
keep going until it was this incredibly awkward, weird moment where everyone's like, what's happening?
Are we mentally taking out a colon? Like it could have been, it could have been so fucked up.
Sometimes when we record, I'm just thinking about you guys. I'm like, this guy's put a spotlight
on me for no reason right now, but I'll finish. Never die. So after they do this study, right,
they take the 60 people and they cut them up and then the six people, they don't. And then they
report the results in which they were like, there's no difference. Like if you cut people apart,
it doesn't make a difference if you don't cut them apart. So they published this study, quote,
we have no medical evidence on which to basic conclusion that the removal of focal infection
has of itself brought about recovery. And then the three doctors went on the attack and Cotton's
work was suddenly being examined. Kirby noted, quote, the task has been made more difficult
because of Cotton's failure to publish complete data on either the psychological or laboratory
side. So someone finally is like, what's the data? Yeah, he's not, he's not publishing any sort of
studies or complete works of this whole time. He's like, cut them out. I mean, it's total hearsay.
And so he's just totally like, I mean, it sounds like politics now, where you're just like, things
are great. And you're like, okay, they're great. Yeah, good, good. Kirby said that just because
one could demonstrate the presence of bacteria in the body, that did not mean that it had anything
to do with psychosis. Oh, thank God. Finally. Oh, what a crazy asshole. Yeah.
But here's the thing. So you think that would be the thing that was upsetting him the most?
Turns out it wasn't. What most upset Kirby and his associates was not Cotton's cutting up of people.
They actually did not think psychiatrists should stop doing that and said the field owed Cotton
a lasting debt. Wait, wait, wait. I'm sorry. Were you thinking that they were going to be upset
that he was cutting parts of people out? I really for a minute, the clouds parted and a hand emerged
from the sky. Go ahead. And now it wants money. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Now actually the hand came
out of the sky. He's out of his mind. Give us the 50 bucks. And then it slapped you and went back up
and was like, ah, bitch. Yeah, I just came down and give you a backhand. What they were upset about
was that he was publishing his results in newspapers instead of medical journals. Sure. Which led to
people coming in and demanding the surgery. So they were like, I don't want to do the extra talking
to people. Around the same time, another prominent doctor announced he had been conducting similar
research in his asylum and he'd come to the same conclusions as Kirby. He said this is how they
always upend. So it's like two people are like, that actually might be bullshit. And then it starts
and people are like, can we see these cervix? Wait a minute. What were the last 20 years?
Oh, fuck. So this guy said he was actually having good results with something called therapy.
And he said, he said talk space. So the criticism started to hurt con professionally. So what do
you do? Cut out. Take a trip to England. Of course. That's what you do. That's so true. You do the
world tour. Always with these people, they're like, they were really dicks in America. That's
what Kathy Griffin is doing. She's doing Europe. Yeah. Yeah. Cause she held a bloody head. She's
saying, I gotta go to Europe. They didn't hear about it as much. That's a little different because
it turns out that was fine. It turns out cotton had a soulmate across the pond. In England,
Thomas Graves was in charge of all the mental hospitals around Birmingham and on his own
he'd reached the same conclusion as cotton shocker. He lacked the resources to perform
abdominal surgery. So he stuck to aggressively removing teeth, tonsils, sinuses, and washing
fecal matter from the body with quote, prolonged irrigations. I would rather, if it comes down to
this, I would rather have my colon removed than a prolonged irrigation. Because that's how
that is how from what I understand, pear trees happen. Well, but we, huh? That's how
you get trees for a long irrigation. That's how they grow. My family is farmers.
I'm not sure they are. Yep. Okay. They're also colonoscopers.
I'm gonna grab that. But I mean, in a way, like there, I mean, prolonged irrigation is terrible.
To me, it sounds like I would rather be dead. Yes, but you're not removing.
How long is prolonged in the early 1900s? It's 30 hours. 30 hours. No. Oh my God.
Come check out Bobby's a sprinkler. 30 hours. It's like nine weeks. They're like, oh, it's weird.
There a whole, a whole came out. No more hoes. Just two more days, Teddy.
Prolonged in the 1900s was much more than we would consider. Today prolonged is like two
hours. Back then they're like, well, nine weeks. That's a prolonged trip. It's eight months. Anyway,
this guy's washing everyone's asshole in Birmingham. So caught and visited Britain,
and two doctors who took out parts of people were hit with praise and love by the leading men
of the British medical establishment. So they were getting all these kinds of awards and accolades,
and now he's a big hero and they're fucking parades again. And then he returned to Trenton.
Though he had taken a hit with other doctors, he was still sought after by the public. Now around
this time, Phyllis Greenacre, who was a female doctor, landed one of the coveted positions
on Meyer's staff at John Hopkins. But things didn't work out there because she is what is known as
a woman. We've heard of them. Yeah. So why is this thing here talking to me like she's one of us?
Right. So the other doctors and I enjoy her vagina being around them acting like it was as smart.
So Meyer got rid of her by suggesting she go to Trenton and conduct a study to evaluate Cotton's
work. And that was just kind of like a go test yourself with a project. Yeah. Well,
but you go off to the guy who cuts people up and see what he's doing. Yeah. We know he's safe from
any scandal. Now both Meyer and Greenacre believed in the germ theory and assumed the finding of Cotton
would back everything up. So she took the gig. But things were not at all what she thought
when she arrived at Trenton. Greenacre found Cotton to be quote, a peculiar man.
Finally, someone saying what we've been hearing. Finally, a woman walked in and went, what the fuck?
A room full of men removing genitals like, oh no. What do you mean he's creepy?
We're just doing what we do. It's a bit of a frat. Don't step on the frat vibe lady.
Let us irrigate this man and remove his balls like doctors should.
So when she first goes to the hospital, she notices that all the patients have a strange
sunken in face look. What's that do to? And they all appeared older than their age.
That guy's 20.
It's good timing. Silver Fox.
They all had slurred speech and they seem malnourished. Really? She quickly realizes this was because
they were all missing their teeth. Yeah, you can't chew, get nourishment, or talk normally,
or have a regular face when you have no teeth. It turns out it's hard to eat when you don't have
teeth. Yeah. And the hospital was also... You guys don't like steak anymore, huh? The tides really
shifted on the steak. All right, we'll start doing more chicken and lamb. See you guys like that.
She goes right to work and she finds out that Cotton's medical data is just seriously a problem.
Hmm. All of his numbers had actually been organized by a former medical patient.
Wait, wait, wait. Wait. So if I could sum up what happened was
he was taking out parts of people and then releasing them saying they were cured when
they weren't because all he was taking out their parts. So you take out a bunch of someone's parts
and it was like, hey, you want a job? And that guy was like, yeah, I guess. And then he put that
guy in charge of all of his data. And that guy, it turns out, was fucking nuts because he had
to cut him by cutting off his dick and his asshole. And so the guy was like, I got this. And he's
like, numbers go here. So that's the guy who's in charge of information. Wow. I can't imagine
working for him after he took all your teeth out. You're like, yeah, I want a job.
Well, you've seen it. You've seen the job market lately. It's not what it used to be.
Yeah, but he's, he's crazy. Yeah, I know. The guy takes the job is like mentally
ill. So you can't imagine him taking the job. Sure. However, you would still think that you're
like, even though I don't have my wits about me, I don't want to sleep in a lion's den.
No, but you're not mentally sane. Am I not? No, you have a towel. Right now you're wearing a towel
as if it's a scarf. You're the most fucked up person. Okay. It's what yotters wear you common man.
So the records are a complete mess. And some were totally contradictory. So she starts working on them.
And she found that few patients actually recovered. The rates of improvement had nothing to do with
surgeries and that a lot more patients were dying and then cotton was revealing. And as treatment
went on, people didn't improve. In a 1922 paper, cotton had written about 250 colon operations had
an 85% success rate, but he included the debt in those numbers, which was 30%. So if you've gone
to like say third grade math, you can see the problem. While she's learning all this, she's
sending reports to Myers, who was just upset that his celebrated cure germ theory idea was
causing pointless damage. So he responded exactly as you'd expect when his theory is clearly hurting
people. Here we go. And he had Greenacre's time at Trenton Hospital cut short and buried all the
report she had written. So he's like, why don't you stop doing that and come back and don't talk
about it. Cut her short like a colon. Basically he wanted to, now he had power and standing in
the medical profession. He just wanted to protect it even though people were dying. But still in
1925, criticism of the hospital reached the New Jersey State Senate. The high rate of deaths
was hard to hide. The Senate launched an investigation. Former patients and employees
testified they're not happy. But the trustees of the hospital reaffirmed they were totally
confident in cotton and his staff. They said he was a pioneer and a lot of people in power came
out to defend him. Of course. September 25th, 1925. The New York Times, paper of record.
Failing. The one that caused the Iraq war. Quote, eminent physicians and surgeons testified that
the New Jersey State Hospital for the insane was the most progressive institution in the world for
the care of the insane. And that the newer method of treating the insane by the removal of focal
infection placed the institution in a unique position with respect to hospitals for the mentally
ill. And other doctors and politicians came forward to defend and praise cotton. Good.
Good. Somehow cotton absorbs everything.
So basically, and I don't know if this sounds familiar at all, but basically
families and patients of families and actual people on the ground were suffering and essentially
being destroyed by a human. And then and then they complained about it and told the government and
then the powers to be in the media came in and they said, no, no, it's all good. At least that's
gone. Cotton said the high death rate was just an indication of how the insane were not good
surgical risks. Look, if you want to make an omelet, you got to break every egg. But unfortunately,
cotton became ill during the hearing. Wait, so they're having this Senate hearing.
Cut his colon out. It's a weird. Fuck him. Let's go. No more balls. You know what?
The man, the man's sick. I want his balls off. Excuse me.
Off with his balls. Excuse me. I'm talking about a patient right now, a man who's
who's not having a good time. He's having an actual illness. And the fact that you're rejoicing in
that is disgusting. Sorry. So sorry. This great, this great doctor at the time of this hearing,
he becomes sick and and and it's it's not a physical while it is, but he has a mental illness.
He has like a breakdown. Oh my God. He has a breakdown. I'm talking to the audience right
now. That's not how this show works asshole. So he is having a breakdown. It turns out.
What do we do? I'm getting emotional. Sorry. It turns, it turns out he has, he has some
infected teeth. Shut up. Which he, he diagnoses himself. Shut up. And he, and he has removed.
Dude, this guy's a fable. So he does believe this shit so implicitly that he's like,
it's, it's my turn. Hopefully the teeth work. Otherwise I'm going to have to lose the baby makers.
I think you're giving him too much credit. Fuck. I think that what he did was he was being
examined at a hearing and his entire life has been unfolding in front of him and he
realized he's full of shit and it's all fucking lying. So he says, oh God, it hurts and acts
like he's crazy. And then he has his teeth removed and then he's fine. Dude, he duped me 200 years
later or at least like 120. I bit the bait on that one. Well, he better take his own teeth.
He's better. Oh, it does work. Cotton, I owe you an apology or as you'd say an apartment hush.
But what happens is, is that he, he, because he goes crazy in the hearing
and then leaves and has to have the surgery and whatever the teeth that they stopped the hearing.
What, he called in sick to being evaluated by the government?
Yeah, basically. Is that okay to do? Apparently back then it was New Jersey.
So I bet the beaches were closed too.
He was out there. So news that his 85%
cure rate included a 30% mortality rate did not actually come out to the public
because of this hearing that would cut short. Cotton that went on to work perfectly healthy.
So he's fine now that he has teeth removed and he goes back to work. So now he's back to work.
But things are never really the same after that. In 1930, he was once again, he found
himself under these scrutiny because of the high number of deaths from his surgeries.
I'm glad that keeps raring. It's ugly. Yeah, keeps happening. And at the same time,
the surgical surgical method of treating mental illness started to fall out of favor
as something called psychoanalysis picked up steam.
Cotton was gradually being pushed out of power at Trenton State Hospital. He responded by digging
in and becoming more radical. More, he went more radical. He had the rest of his own teeth removed.
Jesus Christ. I mean, this guy is swinging. And then he had all of his teeth.
He had all of his wife's teeth removed. What did she do? She was there loving him.
She married this lunatic. Lose them as well. We're a couple of peas in a pot.
So then he has less power. So he opens up a private clinic in Trenton.
He was still well thought of by the public. So he continued pulling teeth, tonsils,
removing gallbladders, colons, cervixes, testicles, and other sort of parts of now mostly rich people,
which I'm totally fine with. You don't mind that. No, I'm a huge, like I'm a huge working class
union guy. Like that's what I came from. So I'm totally into that. And so I had this part of me
that wants rich people to have. And I was born in a mansion. I totally want rich people to be
taken apart in little pieces. No, anytime. Well, that really is the difference though,
it honestly is. It's like anytime that someone is like there to be helped and taken advantage of
and you fucking remove parts of their body, that's fucked up. The second some person who's just like,
I'm just so depressed because of all the baths. You're like, yeah, take his balls. I will pay
you to take out my asshole. And they're like, yeah, all right, that's cool. I don't have a problem
with that. Like if someone's like, drag screaming into the operation room, and then they have their
stuff removed. But if someone like pulls in in a hammy, he was like, Hey, man, I got a fucking
awesome truck. And also, can you take out parts of my body? It really it's like, if someone dies
from like calf implant surgery, you're like, look, sad, you're gone. Yeah, what the fuck were you
doing? Where were you? We're not worse. We're not worse. Sorry. So anyone out there is dealing
with a calf implant death. So here's the cool thing about him opening up this clinic and rich
people wanting to get their parts cut out is that he started making shitloads of money.
Surely. And now he has now he's fucking rolling in it, right? He's Christ. But he continues to come
under attack from his fellow professionals. He rallied his supporters to defend him against
the attacks, including Meyer. But right in the middle of this fight, he died of a heart attack
in 1933. We can come back. Let's just kind of call it out. Take his teeth. He's not dead yet.
Remove his balls. I'm going to blow into him. Let's go. Don't die. You're gonna die. You're
gonna die. Put staff infection in his brain. I still think he can live if we just remove his
chest. Nothing will be okay. We haven't done everything we can do. Remove his chest. Let's
cut off his legs. They're full of death. I feel like you're not handling this well.
I miss my cotton. The irony of a man named Cotton not to stop this bleeding.
As a Hail Mary, I think a year after his death, we eat a skull.
You never know. I don't want to be the one having sleepless nights sitting here four years from
now going, we didn't eat a skull piece by piece and do everything we could to bring him back.
Worst case scenario, five years down the line, one of us is probably gonna have to suck the bones.
What? Worst case scenario, one of us sucks the bones at five years and maybe at 10 years,
things start to get weird. Start? We're gonna have to fuck that coffin.
What's it? I'm sorry, I just came in. What's going on?
Save it for 10 years from now, my man.
That was an example of you, if you just don't.
Don't make that a live show feature now. There's a rhythm we gotta sustain.
The Trenton Evening News called him a great pioneer in the field of mental health.
Myra wrote a wonderful obituary of Dr. Henry Cotton. Later examinations revealed the true
death rate of Cotton's cure was closer to 45%. That's so fucked. Less extreme forms of surgical
bacteriology were performed in Trenton State Hospital until the 1950s. After that point,
the advent of anti-psychotic drugs led to a more non-invasive treatment for mental illness.
Both of them had Henry Cotton's sons. He had two sons. Both of his sons committed suicide
when they were middle-aged. They scrawled. I can only chew yogurt. No, they didn't. That's not,
that's not that part. Jesus Christ. You can't get your glasses on? Time to remove those nuts.
I might have made that up. I think you might have. But they did,
they killed themselves. It's fascinating they both killed themselves in the middle age.
Anyway, today some research has shown that chronic inflammation from gum disease has
been associated with the development of cardiovascular problems such as heart disease,
blockages of blood vessels, and strokes. I was going to, I learned that. And yet,
no doctor who has conducted that research has said, let's take out the heart. Weird.
He's come along. They have said, why don't you floss? It's true. No, flossing is good.
You know, we really do chase our own fucking tail on mental disease and have for so long.
And it is not solutionless. It's just fucking difficult. But like anything else, you want a
miracle. So when you hear like, as we've heard over and over again on this podcast,
when someone comes along and says to you, I have it, there's like a five to 30 year shelf life
where people want to believe so fucking bad, they let it happen. And we're not living in that.
Take a lift. So
by the way, why don't we take home tonight a horse carriage fucking ruined Uber with Nazis and
lifts. Oh God, what if we get barred from lift because I want to take Uber because you guys.
Fuck, we might need a jam pad to figure out what we take.
I mean, the crazy thing about all of the medications we have today and the
mental illness, there's a lot of great things going on in mental illness and with drugs and
therapy and everything else. It's all because some crazy asshole did this inappropriately.
Like we got there because someone cut someone's fucking shit out and then someone else was like,
don't cut someone shit out. Like that's how this all fucking worked. So tons of people had to die
so that you could go into your therapist and go, my dad gave me the wrong purse. Like seriously,
it fucking all like that. It's all culminating in good work. But you know, I guarantee you in
50 years, we're going to look back and go, you fucking we're doing one with cancer. Like it's
going to be completely and like, it's all going to be fucked up. Like even now, we'll find out.
We will find out in 50 years how we're dealing with mental health. That seems to be the only way
to figure out what the fuck is going on with it. I'll just look back 50 years later.
Clearly we're over medicated. Like that's I am. So if you look at the other countries on earth,
no one is medicated as we are. So we're fucking up somehow. You can't show drug commercials in
other countries. Imagine watching your fucking TV and not being like, oh, I don't like to sale
as much as I used to. Maybe I need. So right now I'm going to come right now. I'm going to
commercial. And when I shot the commercial, it was very sort of dubious. It was like,
you're doing an anti diarrhea sort of, you've always been against that thing, which, which,
which I'm totally against. I don't like diarrhea. I've never happened.
You've always said you're a post even though there's a lot of quotes out there. Don't believe
them. Always said that. So then my after I did the commercial, I was like, I have no idea what I
did. And my wife was like, was it Pepto Bismol? I have fucking I don't know. But I support that
because that helps me all the time. So then the commercial comes out. And it's so specific. It's
for if you have a certain kind of tumor intestinal tumor, and it you have to take a certain kind
of medicine for that tumor, that tumor, that medicine then blocks you up. And then for that
blockage of that specific medicine, this specific medicine helps you shit.
You got to see it. So,
so currently, you can probably find on the internet, I am in the most specific
anti shitting, but pro shitting. Because of a tumor commercial you're ever going to find.
Yeah, Dave Anthony, pro and anti shitting. That's the platform.
And I had to stick my gut out the whole time. Anytime I walked out, I'd be like,
okay, where are we shooting? Can you stick it out? And I'd be like, so it's just me walking
around like that with my gut out, which you normally only do for December. And I've told
you to go year round. But you're just doing it for shoots. Do it for money. Anyway, lift is
giving away free swastika tattoos. Thank you so much for coming out. Truly appreciate it.
Back to the lights. Thank you. We will stick around after for a minute inside some stuff,
but we're going to be backstage for a little bit. But we'll be back soon.
We're going to sell posters out there. It'll be like 20 minutes. Yeah, we'll do photos and posters.
Yeah. And then we do 20 minutes. And then the, yeah, we make up. Okay, we love you guys. Thank
you. Over there in about 20.