The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 300A - Donald Trump (Part One)

Episode Date: November 14, 2017

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the life of Donald TrumpSOURCESTOUR DATESREDBUBBLE MERCH

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each week I, Brisbane thrower, dog owner, elephant, video watcher, Dave Anthony, read the story from American history to his friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about except for this week when I think I do. Brought a little whiskey for this one David. So this episode is about Donald Trump who a lot of people have said we should talk about politics but I don't consider him to be a politician anymore. I think he passed up by a long time ago and I think that when you bring the level of white supremacy he has in and when you enjoy the sweet flavor of Nazis then I really don't give a flying

fuck about politics. This isn't like meeting on Obama who I'm not a fan of or Hillary or Rubio or Bush. This guy's on another level and he is a level of criminality we've never seen and a level of just insanity that should be talked about in one body. So that being said he likes to sue people. He's a big fan of suing so all of this information in here is allegedly true. Allegedly. Allegedly. See we can all play that game. Words are fun and this is all alleged. Yeah. Some people are saying. Anyway. I like that guy a little. June 14th 1946 Donald John Trump was born in Queens New York. This is so weird already. This is the

president. The fourth of five children. Okay. His parents were Frederick Christ Trump. Whoa. News flash. They went big. Wow. I mean the parents went big. Life and give it. Yeah. Christ is the middle name. Yeah. Middle. Okay. And Mary and Trump Fred died his hair and kept it a little longer than the average man combing it in a smooth wave away from his head. Okay. What does that mean? That means let me describe Fred war's hair. He died his hair. Right. And it was a little longer than average. Right. And he combed it into a smooth wave away from his head. Does that ring any. No. I mean the only thing I would think is like you were

talking about Donald Trump but he's got beautiful hair. Fred's parents were German immigrants. His father died when he was 12 in 1918 and Fred spoke German. Okay. But said he was Swedish. Okay. Okay. Sure. Sure. Sure. On Memorial Day in 1927 fights erupted in New York led by the Italian fascist movement and the Ku Klux Klan. So who's who. Two Italian men were killed by anti-fascists in the Bronx while in Queens a thousand robed clansmen marched through Fred's Jamaica neighborhood which also led to a huge brawl. Seven men in that fight were arrested.

Okay. One of those men was Fred Trump. What. According to the Daily Star quote. Fred Christ Trump. Yeah. Okay. Quote on a charge of refusing to disperse from a parade when ordered to do so. That's a hard and they say parade. Yeah makes it sound like he was in something. Yeah. Right. And also parade I think we should start limiting parade to happier events. Yeah. It's not a parade ish. Yeah. There's not balloons. I would love it though if they're on the just on the outside of the Klansmen there was a clown.

Yeah. Hey what. I think I read the thing wrong. Well what are we marching for guys. Scruffles wants to know. That was loud. You okay. Scruffles wants to know what. You guys want to see me pull a chicken out of my pants. Scruffles we're here to march against black people. Well Scruffles doesn't hate blacks. Scruffles was everybody. You want to pull the balloon. No. No. I mean I'll be honest I've always liked white people better. Okay Scruffles get in here. Can you make me a white balloon animal.

Oh sure. Just make it a guy. Okay. I'm giving him weird hair. So Fred was a successful real estate developer. He owned most of his money building low to middle-priced homes and apartments in Brooklyn and Queens. Okay. But Fred was not a self-made man. His mother Elizabeth started the Trump family business and Fred a partner. She made Fred a partner when he was 15. The original name was Elizabeth Trump and son. Okay. So he didn't so they so we would say we would call that not a self-made man.

Right. Okay. Right. When your mommy starts a business for you. Elizabeth and son. That's like on Shark Tank when a kid comes in and he's like 12 years old and he made like dog biscuits. Yeah. And they're like he did it all by himself. On his own. He's great. He's just crazy. When FDR created the housing federal housing administration in the 1930s Fred made use of the loan subsidies cranking out homes. Okay. The Brooklyn Daily Eagle called him quote the Henry Ford of home building. All right. He started slapping the name Trump on buildings he made.

That's a genetic. He in July 1939 he had a 65 foot yacht covered in Trump signs pulled up close to Coney Island and Blair the star-spangled banner. Whoa. And God bless America repeatedly. Oh wow. All right. So he does love America. This forced some bathers who didn't want to be seen as unpatriotic to stand and salute over and over and over. That is actually a great prank. We should be doing that now to just like pull up and just like press people on their patriotism by just cranking the star-spangled banner.

I am the best. The best. All of these guys who are complaining about people taking a knee we should just go wherever they are. Yeah. And just start cranking the. If you want it to matter. You taking knees. I'm on vacation. We'll stand up. You love it. I've always found it strange how we have to stand up for the net. The fact that you even play the national anthem before a sporting event has always seemed a little bizarre. Wouldn't it make more sense in America for when you played the star-spangled banner

or God bless America that you would just sit around and eat. Yeah. That's true. Yeah. That's when you get a mug of nacho cheese. Yeah. Well hurry up star-spangled banner. Get the cheese ready. So Fred for that Fred was given a summons and for advertising without a license and fine two dollars. Okay. So he was doing it to drive people to his new homes or whatever. But he's also associating himself with red-blooded patriotism. Right. Donald grew up in a 23 room house.

Good Lord. Like most of us. Good God. 23. Yeah. His dad built it. No wonder the White House is a dump to him. There's dump. It's on the 18 bedrooms. It had nine bathrooms. It seems a little light for 23. Well there's seven people in the family. Okay. Wow. So someone was double shitting. For sure. I think we know. Yeah. I think we know who. It's the guy eating all the chicken skin. So it was in the posh neighborhood of Jamaica, Queens.

Okay. Trump. The Trumps had a cook. A African-American chauffeur. Okay. An intercom system. Intercom system in the house. And at this time it's kind of crazy. And a color television before most people even had a television. Well wait. I thought they didn't like colors. Not those kind of colors. Oh sorry. There are also early adapters of the custom license plate.

Their two Cadillacs had license plates FCT1 and FCT2. Fred Crass-Trump. Right. I would have just gone with Christ. One and two. So. Isn't that illegal advertising? Just saying you're Christ. Well was he? We'll find out again. We will find out after this message. Talk space. So Donald's mother, Mary was a Scottish immigrant.

She loved attention and thrust herself to the center of social gatherings. She was always impeccably dressed and quote, had a flair for the dramatic and grand. So it is so even all it already is so interesting to know like what he's around as a kid. Donald would later credit his mother's love of pomp and circumstance as an inspiration for his ultimate showman style.

Sure. No I think everyone thinks of him as a showman. Yep. Big showman. The chumps pervade their children from cursing and calling each other by nicknames. Okay. Sorry. Yep. Go ahead. You're not cursing I get. No nicknames.

Donald was given a name. You can't call him Donny. He was given the name of Donald. What about Trump? That's a nickname. He's branded it. Now it's later. But that's also his name. Like if you call them Trumpy or Trumpet.

Yeah. That would be upsetting. Pumpkin man. Anything? Nothing? No. Okay. Keep swinging. Fred ruled, quote, ruled with a steel will.

A long time friend. Fred said, a long time friend said, quote, it was not a loving atmosphere. Oh boy. That's sad. He was not a warm person. He was stern and formal. He wore a tie and jacket at home

and had a well cropped military type mustache. He would sometimes wear his suit to the beach. Okay. That's awful. I wear shoes to the beach. I'm like, this is a nightmare. A suit. Got to be dying.

I mean, yeah, there should be a funeral if you have a suit on at the beach. You have to just be like, it has to, I mean, that to me, that feels like a punishment. Hey, Fred, a little, little formal or? Uh, I think you're a little informal. This is a white suit, my friend. Uh, uh, linen.

I am, uh, cut and loose today. Sure. Woo, this weather, huh? Put your keys in my top head, kids. No nicknames either while we're on the beach. God damn it. Well, yes, I do have my wallet right here in my breast pocket. Fred always wanted to impress people with his brain

and would dare people to give him enormous numbers so he could calculate them in his head in front of them. And was he good at it? Because that to me was the best, if it was terrible. He must have been, but also that is a sign that you might be batshit crazy. Oh, I don't know. Dave, give me two numbers.

Four and nine. Thirteen. See how bad that was? That was good. Fred also had theories about life. He believed and taught his children, uh, the idea of the racehorse theory of human development. So he was a racist.

The Trumps were taught to believe there are superior people and if you breed a superior man with a superior woman, you get superior offspring. Oh, boy. This is, uh... What? Jackets off. So, uh...

Okay. Just not a great start. Fred also believed that life was a competition, which meant there were winners and there were losers. Okay. That's just so weird. He called the winners killers, and this is how he ran the household.

The winners were killers. Okay. No nicknames, though. Careful. Easy, FCT. If you did not win, you lost, meaning, uh, losing meant you were nothing and that you didn't matter.

So Donald always tried to be a winner. His brother said that if you built the tower blocks, Donald would just knock them down. Well, now... That's telling. Now the, um... Was it Jenga? Yeah.

Okay. Early Jenga. He invented Jenga. Yeah, I made Jenga. Jenga's mine. So if you breed a superior man, a superior woman, and you get a superior offspring, that's also what we would call eugenics.

I was gonna say, it sounds like eugenics from previous... It is eugenics. That's exactly what he's describing. So... Well, I guess, and we are saying this man is mildly racist to some extent. Sure, we could say mildly. Okay, sure.

So then if you have, uh, that would make me think that you only wanted them to be with whites. Oh, that's interesting. I do. I'm really good at doing math in my head, as you saw earlier when I got 13, like a gun on my head. Well, you got 13, but sure.

Well, I'm having a beard. I'm 13. What do you want, man, huh? On Sundays, the Trumps would attend Marble Collegiate Church in Manhattan, where the head pastor was Norman Vincent Peel, the author of The Power of Positive Thinking, a pillar of American self-help culture in the 1950s.

Okay. Peel had a populist touch and was criticized as teaching simplistic answers and promoting the idea that difficult problems would be dealt with by repeating phrases. Whoa. Okay, that's, uh, what, uh, how does that work? That does that work.

You just are just whatever, you're just, you have a mantra? Well, I mean... It's a little like transcendental meditation in a way. It would be, it would be like if you kept saying, no, this is tremendous. This drink is tremendous. This drink is tremendous.

Hey, have you tried this tea? No. It's tremendous. Okay. All right. It's, is it tea-mendous? Tremendous. Tremendous.

A lot of business executives were drawn to Peel and his can-do theology. So he was a, a church man of God who business executives loved. He preached the business secret. Always a good sign. Right. And what Jesus ultimately was looking for. Well, ultimately Jesus was a businessman,

if you think about it. I mean, think of all the profiting he did out for the lepers. Huge profit. I mean, that's, yeah. We're going to sell these alms. We're going to get rid of these legs. Everything must go.

The minister wrote, quote, I know that with God's help, I can sell vacuum cleaners. Oh, God. Wow. He became known as God's salesman. At least we bury it better now. Right? At least now we're selling like magic cloths and shit.

So Donald soaked all this in. When he was in elementary school, he was the tallest kid in his class and he was very confident. Uh-huh. A former classmate said Donald was, quote, a little shit. Okay.

While a neighborhood described him as, quote, a bully. Okay. Young Donald would not acknowledge any mistakes. Well, I think we can all say it's nice that he shook that. Yes. Yes. Once he called the popular pro wrestler Antonio Aroca, Rocky Antonio, and he refused to give in

when the other children pointed it out and then started to ridicule him. He insisted the wrestler's name was Rocky Antonio. Oh, boy. Oh, God. This is mildly tough in a way. Much later in life, Trump would say he is exactly the same as he was when he was five.

It wouldn't surprise me if when he got money, he actually made a wrestler called Rocky Antonio and just be like, see? Yeah. They're my youth. That's the guy. Yeah. Quote, when I look at myself in the first grade,

and I look at myself now, I'm basically the same. Good Lord. The temperament is not that different. Right? Yeah, I mean, even if you believe that, why would you say that? Hey, man, I'm the same as I was at five. Dude, why'd you knock my blocks over?

Like, you should never, ever want to be the same when you were five, because the thing about being a human is there is a tremendous amount of growth that occurs. Think of what you were like in first grade. It was a fucking asshole. Dude, I remember so clearly when I was in first grade, or maybe a year before pointing out to my teacher this picture I'd drawn of a dinosaur and a caveman

and her being like, no, they didn't hang out. Oh, yeah. And I was like, oh, really? That was pretty mean ever. Yeah. They did hang out. And then I also remember at that age drawing a square on a piece of paper and showing it to my mother very proudly,

and she was like so let down that I was still like, squares are possible. You believe it? I'm the same as I was then, though, Dave. Still excited when I draw a square. Now, Donald and his siblings were being raised in luxury. When it rained and Donald had to deliver his newspapers, the chauffeur would drive him around.

So that's such an empty task. Why do that? What is the lesson there is like, we need him to get him a paper out. James? It's just like part of learning a job is having to, that's the thing about a paper out. Like you got to do it every day.

Sometimes you got to put bags around them and time up in a rubber band and go deliver them in the fucking rain. Like you're learning to deal with adversity. In this case, not so much. In this case, he was just in the backseat of like a Rolls Royce, just being like, I think that one. Yeah. Fred insisted everyone learn the family business.

He worked seven days a week and sometimes would put the kids in the car on a Sunday and drive them to a building site where they would pick up unused nails and other items off the ground because nothing went to waste. Okay, I don't find that that. I mean, look, it's crazy, but you could, that's not sending a chauffeur on your paper out. For the time, crazy.

It's borderline insanity. Okay, okay, get it out. When an Italian family, the chiffonos moved to Jamaica States. Fred Trump Jr. said his parents had, quote, panicked because as Italians, the chiffonos were the first ethnic family to move into the neighborhood. Nobody fuck on. Nobody fuck the Italians.

Wow. I just love the idea of being panicked because Italians have moved in. Italians. Yeah, no, it's fucked up. Hey, I'm Mr. Trump. Hey, we're going to keep a meat bar in your driveway. Hey, you let me know if you got any single ladies.

I don't know. We don't. Although surely there's got to be a single woman around here. There's not. Don't fuck anything. What are you talking about? Hey, I like a single lady. Come on, all my single ladies.

It's becoming Jamaican now. Yeah, got a little weird. And December 1950, folk singer Woody Guthrie signed a lease at the Beachhaven apartment complex owned by Fred Trump. Hippy, hippie alert. It didn't take long. Long hair. It didn't take long before Guthrie was, quote,

lamenting the bigotry that pervaded his new lily white neighborhood. He wrote a song about Fred Trump. What? With the lyrics, I suppose old man Trump knows just how much racial hate he stirred up in the blood pot of human hearts when he drawed that color line here at his 1800 family project. So rhyming wasn't a big thing. No, they didn't care about rhyming.

We're just making a point. Right. Yeah. It's good to get a rhyme in there. OK, so he moves in and he is right away just like, wow, this is white topia. Wow, Fred Trump's a motherfucker is what he says. Yeah, OK.

This would now, these would be different lyrics today. Right, for sure. So Guthrie believed Fred Trump stirred up racial and hate and profited from it, and that blacks were not welcome in the apartment complex. OK, so that's, and he got that impression because he saw no blacks in the apartment complex. That would, yeah, that would be good.

Right, OK, OK, right. In the seventh grade, Donald and a friend would take a subway. Seventh grade. I do, this is like, this does feel like time traveling, Mr. Sure. They take a subway into Manhattan without their parents' permission. They bought switch blades, wanting to be like the gangs in the Broadway hit, West Side Story.

OK, cute, cute. When Fred found the knives and learned of the trips to the city, it was his breaking point with young Donald. Donald was sent to the New York Military Academy, a boarding school 70 miles away. He did not tell any of his friends that he was going. He was just gone one day. OK, normal.

Sure, OK. At the Academy, life was strict. He had suddenly gone from a life of luxury with a family to military life. His superior would smack cadets with an open hand if they ignored him, and he set up a boxing ring and made students with poor grades and disciplinary problems fight each other.

Wow, wow. Like a gladiator situation. Good Lord. Yeah, just your typical, typical children being gladiators. So then you just have the children who are performing well go in the ring, and then the other kids who are performing well just sit there and watch? Yeah, the kids who perform well will watch

while the kids who weren't good at things would beat each other up. I find it's helpful if a child isn't doing well at math to have a child not doing well at English beat the shit out of them. Look, Dave, I couldn't empathize with someone who couldn't be good at math. Remember earlier, you said four and nine, and I immediately human calculated it.

Thirteen. Thirteen. But didn't he did Trump box during that? Because I feel like I heard something like somewhere that he did, he called himself an amazing boxer. He was a good athlete. He was a good athlete. Yes. Okay.

Trump sort of thrived in this environment of rigid military sort of structure. He wanted to be noticed. He wanted to be recognized, and he liked compliments. So it all worked out. But he's changed. A former classmate described the school as, quote, a culture of hazing.

But Don thrived here. He liked that there was a medal and prize for everything. Uh-huh. Well, shit, Dave, I'm not going to defend this guy at every point. I like a medal too. Yeah. So does he know what else my dog does?

Yeah. My dog likes like a prize for everything. That's nice. But if after every podcast you gave me a medal, I'd be like, thanks, man. That's pretty good. I did do good. Thank you, man.

Thank you. I just have a big drawer of them. You see that? I did good. Look at this. Donald won medals for neatness and got good grades. OK. Now I'm going to turn on what I said.

Uh, those are weak medals. Look how neat I am. He did well on the baseball and football teams. Classmates described Donald as a blend of friendly and cocky. He was promoted steadily but unremarkably in his first four years. One day he found a roommate's bed unmade on inspection duty. Oh, nothing gets me mad.

And then he got into a fight and Donald tried to shove him out of a second floor window. Oh, shit. But that happens. That's just. Does that happen? That's just like that. In my house, that's very much a common,

like don't have a messy bed or I'll kill you. Oh, because I, right. OK. I remember now you've told me you have thrown Finn out the window a few times. Yeah, yeah. He has, he's in a wheelchair. But you know what, he might be, but still.

I'm bound to quarter up that bed now. Bound to fucking quarter up from his wheelchair. Yeah, right, absolutely. In his senior year, Donald was appointed to the prestigious position of Captain of A Company. A fellow student said, quote, he was definitely privileged. That group of people got treated very much differently.

OK. Donald had a hands-off approach to the position, which led to underclassmen feeling at risk from all the hazing that went on under his watch. God. When a cadet. And by the way, this is, this is like that era of hazing. Oh.

Is like brooms go in holes. Well, just, just, there was just a broom closet that they called the asswood closet. Yeah, yeah, welcome to asswood. I graduated asswood with a minor in neatness. When a cadet finally complained about hazing, Donald was demoted, or as he calls it today, promoted. Whoa, no, what?

How? Genius. OK. More importantly, Donald was named a ladies man in the senior yearbook. OK. Hugh Hefner was a role model for many of the cadets. Well.

Fred wanted all of his kids to go into the family business, and it was assumed Fred Jr. would take over. It's his older brother. OK. But when Fred Jr. ordered new expensive windows for a job, instead of fixing the old broken ones, Fred Sr. lost his shit. Yeah, he should just go to a work site and pick up old glass.

Right. Right. Fred Jr. decided to become an airplane pilot instead. Oh, wow. And is that OK? He did? I mean, that was apparently the breaking point. But yeah, after that, he became an airline pilot. And this opened the door for Donald to take over.

OK. Fred Jr. did not share the temperament or business interests of his father and brother. After the Academy, Donald went to Fordham University for two years, and then to the Wharton School, which had a real estate studies department. Oh, can you imagine the joy of studying real estate at college? Hmm.

Boy. Just soaking in that kind of awesome atmosphere. Yeah. How much of that is devoted to just keeping sandwiches out when you're showing a house? What would you do, Tracy? Um, I'd put out, uh, I'm buckling, uh, sandwiches. Cain, her.

Where are your photos? Uh, they're, um, they're, um, oh, god, dear, uh. No! Oh, boy. Did I just break everything? Yeah. So he also, uh, because he was in school, he got deferments from the, uh, the draft

because there was a Vietnam situation happening. Right. Haven't heard of it, but OK. He also worked at the family business while he was in school. OK. OK. Now. So he does work hard.

It sounds like kind of. He's a worker. OK. Donald worshipped Fred. OK. He loves his dad. Sure. Uh, though a friend called their communication style,

quote, very strange. Quote, they were both talking supposedly to each other, but I was sure neither heard what the other was saying. That sounds, is that a conversation? They talked right past each other. Is that a conversation or is that just, that's almost just like two auctioneers battling? Would pay money to watch that?

Yeah. Uh, Fred Jean. So do you understand what I'm saying about earlier today? We need to make sure that everything we're doing is, uh, as tight as it possibly could be. Otherwise, we're going to get behind again. Think of what happened in the fourth quarter. Think of what happened in the fourth quarter last year.

I like the game. We've got to do it. Yeah. I'm not talking about the game. I'm talking about maybe we should, uh, think about the actual business. The, you know, the court. Yeah.

The game. No court. Right. Anyway. You know, it's a. Yep. There's team. Uh, Fred, Jr. felt shut out by their relationship,

because who wouldn't in that great relationship? Yeah. Donald and his father would belittle. Because he liked listening, maybe. Found that important. Donald and his father would belittle Fred, Jr. for becoming an airline pilot. Well, I can't imagine that.

I bet you Fred's flying Air Force One for Donald right now is that he could just be like, what are you doing? Donald would say, quote, what is the difference between what you do and driving a bus? Wow. Okay. Okay.

So first off, training. Yeah. Flying. Do you know what flying is? Yeah. Yeah. I fly everywhere. On an airplane, you fly in the air.

Yeah. Not a bus. Bus. Okay. Yep. You know, Fred, Jr. started to drink heavily. Okay. That's bad for flying.

By the time Donald graduated from Wharton in 1968, he had about 200,000 from working in the family business. Okay. Yeah. So he continued working and learning from dad, who a New York legislative committee now accused of using state money earmarked for housing to build a shopping center.

Okay. Which is not, you're not supposed to do. Well, are people living in the shops is the question. That is a good question. So how many people are in the spender's gifts? Yeah, who's living at Sears. Yeah. Yeah.

Right? Yeah. Fred had connected friends and was known to make backroom deals. One New York lawmaker called Fred Trump, quote, greedy and grasping. Okay. Um, and he kept up those practices that Woody Guthrie

had sung about so many years before. Two former Trump employees said they were told that the company only wanted to rent to Jews and executives. Wow. You can, you can, you could put that on the ad. Dear Jews and executives. Jews and executives. Yeah.

It would, I would imagine that they would not like Jews. Oh, but in their thinking, Jews have money. Money. Right. Okay. So they like, right. Gotcha. But no fucking them.

No, no, you don't fuck the Jews. No, no, no. Oh, good Lord. And he, quote, discouraged rental to blacks. They were told that, quote, a racial code was in effect. Blacks would be referred to as number nine. Whoa. What?

Yeah. So, uh, hey, I don't think you, you should, uh, rent to them. They're number nine. Number nine. Hello, hello, number nine. How are you? I'm good.

My wife and I are just here to, uh, look at one of your, uh, lovely apartments. Oh, there's two, two, nine. Yeah. Yeah. Two, no one out. I'm sorry. Are you rating us on attractive?

Um, maybe head out the back door. I'd love to look at you at first because we were. There is a porch and no rail and just go ahead and take a walk around. That's for the nine. It's, hi. Excuse me. You were looking me in the eyes a minute ago. Yeah.

No, I'm not. I'm just not sure what, uh. In the eyes again. Are you a nine? Sir. I don't ever talk to me like that. Okay. Okay.

I think we'll keep looking. Yes. Yeah. Somewhere else. Yeah. Cause you're. I'm sure there's a nine place for nines. I swear to God, nine means black honey.

Let's get out of here. No. And then shut, don't touch us. A rental agent said Fred told him to take applications from black people and just leave them in a drawer. It's hard to rent that way. Yeah. Another employee, a superintendent, was told to mark each application with the letter C.

C for colored. Oh God. It is tough. Yeah. Okay. In 1967, a state investigation concluded that out of 3700 apartments in Trump Village, only seven were occupied by black people. Higher than I thought it would be with that policy.

I'm not going to lie. That's so weird. What are the, and those seven are they're just extremely affluent or something? No, we'll get to why they're there. At another Trump housing project in Cincinnati in 1969, now this is the first sort of project that Donald Trump is taking an active role on the forefront. Okay. Doing stuff.

Yeah. So a young black couple were repeatedly rejected. The black couple then had a white couple go in with the same either the same information or very similar application, right? And they immediately were rented too. Okay. They then brought the black guy who was waiting in his car outside and the rental agent completely lost his shit.

He shoved them all out of the office and called the white woman a nigger lover and a traitor to the race. She recently said, quote, to this day, I have not forgotten the fury in his voice and in his face. The black couple sued the Trumps. That's good. Now, even Fred had not been this bad. And when a situation like discrimination popped up,

he would quell the situation by offering an apartment to the accuser. Sure. Right. Terrible. That's how the seven got in. But better, right. Right. Okay.

That's how the seven got in. Donald was not interested in that approach. Quote, I'd rather fight than fold because as soon as you fold once, you get the reputation for being a folder. Boy, then I am not a folder. You're not a what? I'm not a folder. Who told you you weren't?

Relax. You're a fold. What? I didn't fold anything. Fold this laundry, will you? In his affidavit, he said there was no discrimination. They just didn't rent to quote welfare cases, white or black. Does he not?

Okay. First of all, not true. Right. Second of all, not a good excuse. I mean, I don't, I don't, I'm not against anyone except poor. Poor fucking people. Good lord. It's the poor.

Who in here likes poor people? The poor, Shane. Then he throws monocle across the room. Because his dad was focused on the boroughs, 23-year-old Donald saw me. Are we going to get audited after this? We might get sued. Okay. Oh, that reminds me.

I'll do a thing up top. Oh, God. 23-year-old Donald saw Manhattan as a place he could conquer without having to compete with his daddy, right? Okay. So daddy's in the boroughs and he's like, oh, I'll do Manhattan. Okay. Why not start with Broadway?

Sure. He contacted a producer and with his 200,000 he had from the family business, he paid for half the cost of a play called Paris is Out. I mean, it's a good name. Already. Sure. Paris is Out. Yeah.

All right. All right. The only catch was that Trump's name had to be above the title and on the play. What? Donald, Paris is Out. Paris is Out. What? By the way, it's pretty weird because he pulled out of the Paris climate change.

Well, this is, yeah, I mean, clearly foreshadow. Yeah. Yeah. He eventually did get his name on it. The New York Times Reviewer wrote, quote, I pitted it more than I disliked it. I pitted it more than I disliked it. Wow. Yeah, that's not a good, that's a bad, I felt bad for him.

Review. I felt really bad for everyone. Yeah. And it's bad. The other show was a flop and Donald lost $70,000. Okay. Afterwards, he went back to real estate. So Paris is In.

Paris is In. All right. And thankfully, now that he was out of school, he didn't have to go fight in Vietnam because despite having gotten a clean bill of health two years before and then just after graduating from college, during which he played several sports, he suddenly developed bone spurs in his heels. Oh, well. And he's put low on the draft list.

By the way, think of what people in war go through when they're fighting in war. Yeah. Like bone spurs is like. A lot of guys would be happy to just have bone spurs. Yeah. Like that would be a dream. Yeah. But he can't serve because of it.

No, no, you had a little bone issue. But, you know, still could play sports, but it's different than, you know, having to sit maybe in an office and just, you know, send papers. Like there's a lot of things you could do during a war. Sure. But yeah. Yeah. Bone spurt.

Right. Okay. Okay. After best getting the justice department, a suit against the Trumps for violating the Fair Housing Act of 1968 was filed. So. Is this from the couple previously? It's kind of all of it.

Okay. The Justice Department said that Trumps violated the law, quote, by refusing to rent and negotiate rentals with blacks requiring different rental terms and conditions because of race and misrepresenting that apartments were not available. Donald was quoted for the very first time ever in the New York Times about the charges. Okay. Quote. Nothing.

They are absolutely ridiculous. Okay. There we go. So sound bites. Different. Different. He sounds different. Yeah.

No. It sounds like the man's come a long way. That doesn't sound like a tweet. Fred had become chairman of the board. Yeah. I mean, he's the only guy who was speaking in 140 characters before Twitter. He's like, that's my limit. Jumped to become chairman of the board.

Fred, sorry. Fred had become chairman of the board of the company in 1971. And then Donald was promoted to president of the company. Fred, his father was. Wow. Okay. So he's chairman of the board now. Fred is now president.

Okay. And then Fred renamed it. I mean, sorry, Donald renamed it the Trump Organization. Okay. There we go. As president, Donald met defense attorney Roy Cohn, who had worked as a top aide to Senate Joseph McCarthy while he tried to find communists.

Cool. But I think people don't understand how good Joseph McCarthy was. No, he's a good guy. I mean, he was looking out for his country. He was a Packers fan. Huge pack fan. Pack attack. Okay.

Cohn was now no longer doing that. Instead, he was a mob lawyer with clients like Fat Tony Salerno, who was the boss of the Genevieve's crime family, and Paul Castellano, head of the second largest family, the Gambinos. Okay. So Trump retained this lawyer to handle his housing situations. Sure.

Sure. That's a good sign that everything's on the up and up. So Cohn quickly filed a contempt of court charge against the prosecutor who was prosecuting for the discrimination. Okay. Accusing her of turning the investigation into a quote, Gestapo-like interrogation. Donald then countersued the Justice Department

for $100 million in damages for defamation. She's $100 million? That's just, he works in big swings. He always has, I mean, but $100 million is bold. $100 million. The judge quickly. It's like Dr. Evil. No, it's fucking interesting.

Yeah, $100 million. The judge quickly dismissed the countersuit on what grounds? The legal back and forth continued for almost two years. Finally, the Trumps gave up. But Donald said he won because the government didn't find them guilty. That is a win. That is, that is a win. Well, it is true.

But that's also because that's not what happens in these cases. No one has found guilty. Still. A win to win, baby. Don't take the win away. Okay. Don't take the win away. Was he found guilty?

No, but that's- It's a win. Ring the bell, Aaron. It's a win. Okay, but no one has ever found guilty in these types of cases. Sorry. We're not talking about anyone ever. We're talking about Donald.

Was he found guilty? No. And Debbie, that's a win. Ring the bell, Aaron. God damn it. Where's the bell? Is there not a bell in here? Aaron, where's the bell?

Oh, I mean, it's okay. I guess they got the bell out of here. In the settlement, the Trumps agreed to stop, quote, discriminating against any person in the terms, conditions, or privileges of sale or rental of a dwelling. They were ordered to provide- Court mandated non-racism? Yeah, they're like, you guys got to stop.

It's so racist, a judge has to tell you to stop. It was basically a three-year fight to go and stop the shenanigans. Okay. They ordered the Trumps to provide the New York Urban League with a weekly list of vacancies and to put advertising in local papers saying they would rent to people of all races. Okay.

Now renting to all races. No longer loathing blacks. Come down if you're a non-white. I'm sorry, we're still loathing blacks, but we are renting to them. Sorry, yes, we should change that. Loathing blacks will rent now legally must. Um, Donald then tried to get the government to pay for the ads.

Okay. God damn, he really, it, it, okay. Quote, this advertising is a very expensive thing for us. Very expensive thing for us. It is really, onerous, each sentence we put in is going to cost us a lot of money over the period. We are supposed to do it. But-

Yeah, no, that's part of- That's what your penance is. Yeah, you're paying for something. Yeah, okay, so there's a punishment for what you did. No, we weren't found guilty. This is, okay. Thank you. In the end, the Trumps just ignored the order and kept discriminating.

Cool. The ads they placed were not what they were supposed to be and the stats they gave the Urban League were incomplete. Two years later, the government accused the Trumps of violating the decree. Basically, the Trumps just waited the government out and the consent decree expired before the Justice Department could get enough evidence for a new case. Good lord.

It's not airtight our judicial system, is it? No, you're going to actually find that out a lot in this episode. Good. At that point, the Trump Management Corporation owned over 14,000 apartment units in Brooklyn, Queens, and Staten Island. That's fast. Fred had always avoided Manhattan

and Donald saw that as his opportunity to make his name without competing with dad. He set his sights on the big prize of Manhattan and at that time, New York was a rundown dilapidating shithole. Donald, now 30, focused on the failing Commodore Hotel on East 42nd Street next to Grand Central. The neighborhood was seedy.

Donald did not have the capital for the project, so daddy stepped in to guarantee part of the loan. His father, Dave. You don't have to talk down. Poppy. It's his father. Poppy. My white dad.

Look, just how about Papa Christ? Superior human daddy. Jesus. Hyatt put up 50, a 50% stake. Okay. But Donald said he needed a tax break. The head of the state's Urban Development Corporation said no, to which Donald said he would have him fired.

Okay, so. Then using his father's connections, he put pressure on the guy to switch his position and he did. Of course. The tax abatement was for over 35 years. And as of 2016 has cost the city $359.3 million in taxes. Wow.

There's four years left on it. God damn. What happens? Oh, yeah, that's going to be tough. Donald was starting to get press. Most developers like to stay in the shadows. Sure. But Donald was different.

His first mention in Variety was in 1975. The New York Times wrote about him in 1976. Okay. Quote. Now they're failing, though. Failing new times. Oh, yeah. No, this is much different than what.

Better New York Times. Now failing. Quote. He is tall, lean, and blonde with dazzling white teeth and he looks ever so much like Robert Redford. Oh, God. Trump? He rides around town in a chauffeured silver Cadillac

with his initials DJ T on the plates. I wish he was a DJ. He dates slinky fashion models, belongs to the most elegant clubs, and at only 30 years of age estimates that he is worth more than 200 million. Oh, good Lord. So they really tried. I mean, that, but that, that even something as little as that

is enough for a man's ego if you were, you know, if you allow it to just explode. Something like that where they refer to you as a Robert Redford. Well, did he fucking write that? Like it was actually a female reporter, which is crazy. But like Jesus Christ, that's like he fucking wrote it. Yeah. Would not, I mean, think about that doctor's letter he got.

Also, I've seen Robert Redford. Yeah. I've seen him with my face and my eyes. Sure. Like my things that work in my head that can see people have seen. No, no, we know what see means. And I've seen Donald Trump. Right.

Very similar. When he was younger. Very similar. No, no. Come on. Give it up. Louise Sunshine joined Donald's real estate business. So, so, so sorry.

The name is Louise Sunshine? Like she was like a, really just like a ray of light. Okay. That would come in every day. Sure. That's a made up name though, right? Nope. Okay.

Louise Sunshine joined Donald's real estate business in the 70s. She had a hard time with her weight and Donald made sure he was involved in that. Oh, of course. Inside an office drawer, Donald kept an unflattering photo of her, which she called, quote, a fat picture. Donald would pull it out when he disapproved of something she did. And he would say, quote, you like your candy. Oh, God.

What? Good Lord. You know what? There's ways to motivate people. I have a little whiskey here. There's just different ways to motivate people. You know what I mean? Well, I would, I would say this, right?

It, if, like, because there is a technique where like people will say, you know, keep on your fridge a picture of you to motivate yourself that you don't like the look of. But that's you. And it's also connected to food. You know what? It's also connected to, like, if you do something bad being like, come on, Fatty. What if every time you open up your fridge, your boss popped out and went, you like fat, fatty, fat, fat.

Oh, God. I turned this all into a development site inside your fridge. No blacks. So Donald was shooting up as a businessman. I was hoping we were entering the heroin phase. And his brother, Freddie, was in free fall. His drink. Not while, not while flying.

No, no, no. Oh, thank God. His drinking became worse and worse. And he was now divorced and had stopped flying because he knew his drinking was a danger to passengers. Glad we still have that attitude with pilots today. Freddie tried to be a commercial fisherman in Florida, but failed. He moved back in with his parents in Jamaica Estates and started working on one of Fred Singer's maintenance crews.

My guess is that Donald is going to be pretty humble about this whole thing. That's just bad. But it really is bad because this environment, this family's created, but you're not number one. You're a loser. Right. So yeah, that's exactly right. So you're a loser if you just come in second in something.

Now here's this guy who was supposed to be running the business is now essentially on a cleanup crew while his brother is doing giant deals. I mean, like it's like, of course things aren't going to go well. Surely Donald kept a picture in his drawer of Freddie in some sort of janitorial gear. Just like, huh, you like mopping. Don't you, Freddie? You like mopping. Fred told Donald quote, don't ever drink.

And Donald never did. That is one thing I've always heard about him that it is and it's not that someone has to drink. But when I look at him, I'm like, I wish he had. Yeah. Yeah. I'll have one for him. In 1976, Donald met Ivana Zelnikova at a nightclub. She was a divorce model from Czechoslovakia.

Okay. Ivana said she was an alternate alternate on the Czech ski team during the 1972 Winter Olympics. But the Czech Olympic Committee said quote, we have searched so many times and have consulted many, many people and there is no such girl in our records. Well, I think, I think Donald's found a one for a match. Naturally, they found love and got engaged. Just before the wedding, Donald surprised Ivana with a prenuptial agreement. She would get $20,000 a year if things didn't work out.

Wow. Okay. So he's really. She didn't accept it and they haggled back and forth and she got it up a bit. But then when she continued, Donald finally told her to take his first offer or leave it. Wow. So even in the bedrooms, the boardroom to Donnie. Yeah.

Well, love is, you know, just part of the business. I would imagine bringing up a prenup is pretty difficult in general. Let alone bringing up one where you're totally screwing your future ex-wife with it. Yeah, it's an odd thing to do. But you get a fruit basket a month. Take it. Take the basket. Come on.

Anyway, she took it. Love is beautiful. Love is beautiful. Donald wanted a family exactly like the one he grew up in. Okay. So we're talking seven bathrooms, 29 rooms. Quote, I want five children. Like in my own family, because with five, then I know that one of,

one will be guaranteed to turn out like me. No, no, no, that's not how this works. I have a book coming out called Things That You Shouldn't Say Out Loud That I Say Out Loud. Oh man, as soon as it'll be a Twitter. Wow, that's crazy. Is, I mean, are these things, this has got to be said in jest a little bit, right? No. This is genuinely a plan.

This is genuinely a plan. Okay. Donald asked his brother Fred to be the best man at his wedding. Sorry. I mean, will you clean the tables when we're done? Stupid. I'm gonna shit my hand if you could get rid of that for me, Fred. Fred, which one's the salad fork?

Look at stupid. Hey, don't make me pull out the picture of you fatty. You like candy. He hoped that giving his brother such an honor would quote, be a good thing for him. Oh God. But it turns out being the best man at a wedding for your successful brother, while you clean up at a construction job, doesn't turn things around. I can't imagine, like, yeah.

Fred kept drinking. I bet he did. And there's no way this wedding's open bar. Every little bit. Donald and Ivana would have three kids. He allegedly gave Ivana a cash bonus of 250,000 for each child she cranked out. What? Is this an NFL contract?

Who uploads a prenup with incentives? I mean, you know what, does she get a signing bonus? Well, he wanted five, so he's got to make that happen. Sure. God, it really feels like a loving, loving relationship. Oh, it sounds beautiful. Donald kept the same money outlook throughout their entire marriage. Quote, I would never buy Ivana any decent jewels or pictures.

Why give her negotiable assets? Wow. That's actually, that was actually part of my vows. With Heather? Yeah. Yeah, that's sweet. I will never give you negotiable assets. Yeah, do you, Dave, promise to give her $20,000 a year if this doesn't work out?

Five children, so one turns out like you, and zero negotiable assets? That's it. Yeah, that's, yep, that's me. We'll take it. Your brother's passed out in the lawn. That's my boy. Yeah, thank you for everything, big brother. Ivana focused on appearances and tried to be the perfect Trump wife.

As they grew more famous, Ivana started giving out a press kit to interviewers full of flattering clips. Clips of, okay, so like propagandist reels. Yeah. Okay, cool, normal. Normal stuff. Yep. In 1979. Let me know when you finish the infomercial, then we can do interview.

In 1970, what, is that an actual? Check, yes, check. It is? Yes, check, probably. Yes, try on the Rosetta stuff. In 1979, Donald got his hands on the old Bonn. Big hands. Not small.

I feel like he went somewhere else. Oh, I said hands. In 1970, Donald got his hands on the old Bonn-Witt Teller building on Fifth Avenue. He wanted to tear it down and build Trump Tower, which would be the city's tallest glass structure. Okay. Through a foreman, he hired around 200 Polish immigrants to clear the site. Okay. Donald showed the foreman how to set up a new company for payroll, what insurance to get,

and negotiated the hours they would work. Okay. They worked 12-hour shifts, seven hours a day. I'm sorry, 12-hour shifts. Seven days a week. Seven days a week. And we're paid four to five dollars per hour, which was half of what union workers would make at the time. Okay.

Most of the Polish workers did not have hard hats. Oh, God. And other safety equipment. Many use sludge hammers instead of jack hammers. Good Lord. I tell you what, if I ever get the chance to take a building down, I'm going to hire a couple hundred immigrants and have them take that shit down with hammers. Yeah.

Well, I think internationally that policy has definitely stopped as far as torturous labor for nothing. Was he taking their passports in a bag too? Oh, God. But it also just seems kind of foolish to not give jack hammers, right? That just would be faster for you as far as hourly rate goes. You'd think so. Right. Okay.

Continue. Anyway, many of the Polish workers slept at the site. Cool. Usually non-union workers would bring a picket line in New York City. Okay. After all, the mob controlled construction at the city at the time, and that's how they made their money. Okay. But not this site.

The mobbed up union just stayed away. Interesting. So they just didn't want to be yet involved in that one, huh? Just the gut feeling. Well, remember he had a lawyer? Yeah. Donald had a lawyer? Yeah.

Who maybe also represented some... Yeah, yeah. The Genoese crime family. Sure. And the Gandolfini's or something. Just a coincidence. Sure. The workers started being paid inconsistently, so they hired a lawyer.

Okay. By June, their unpaid wages were over $100,000, and they threatened to stop working. So Donald sought out a labor fixer, saying he had, quote, some illegal Polish employees on the job, the consultant said to fire them. Okay. Donald did not. Okay. June 27, 1980, the Polish workers lawyer served Trump with a mechanics lien.

Now, mechanics lien would give a labor partial claim to the title of a property on which he's worked. Okay. If he's not paid. Sure. Donald finally fired the workers and hired union guys to get the building down. Okay. This was easy because he decided to just not pay the Polish immigrants their $100,000.

Jesus. Their lawyer put up a second and third lien on the property, and one day, the lawyer told a Trump employee that under the Fair Labor Standards Act, Donald couldn't sell any space in the tower until the Polish workers were paid. Okay. 45 minutes later, the lawyer got a call from a Mr. Barron. Okay. Who worked in Donald's legal department.

Mr. Barron said Donald was going to sue the lawyer for $100 million. Oh, God. What? Come on. Get your figures right a little bit. For wrongful filing of liens, he then threatened to call the immigration and naturalization service and have the workers deported. The Polish workers never saw another cent.

And that's how it ended? Over $100,000 in wages were unpaid, hours and hours of free labor. Donald would later admit at a trial that he and a senior executive would call people and say their name was Mr. Barron. Oh, right. Oh, wait. Is this the, because he did have a fake- Yeah, this is the fake name.

This is the fake guy, the guy who's just like got Donald Trump's voice, but is just not Donald Trump. Yeah. I didn't go too deeply into this. I just brought up this maybe another time, but he- It is one of the- He throughout his entire career, he constantly called people and said he was Mr. Barron. One of the things that, like, you know, truly, I think, like,

you know, in a sense, you want to think the best of someone. So it was like, you know, the campaign's going on. Really, when I was like, oh, this might be a little dangerous, was when he, that came out, the audio came out of him specifically being like, oh, this guy is unbelievable. He goes out with so many supermodels. I can't even name all the models. He goes out with Madonna.

He goes out with all these supermodels trying to sleep with him, but he doesn't want to sleep with her. And they, like, played it and, like, it's him. And they're like, what do you think of that? And he's like, it's not me. And it's like, dude, just own it. Just be like, yeah, I'm crazy. Instead, you're like, no, it's not me.

It's like, for sure you. Rocka Antonio. Oh, boy. Not me. So the building was torn down and Trump Tower was now being built by union men. And Donald made the odd decision to use a much more costly and very risky method to build it using ready mix concrete instead of steel beams, which was the norm. Right.

This put him at the mercy of union shutdown and the mob. Okay. Who controlled the ready mix business completely. Interesting. At one point, the general contractor who built the tower had goons enter his office and hold a knife to his throat to demand no-show jobs on Trump Tower. Hey, uh, don't, uh, don't go up there showing up there with no beams. You understand?

Any beam, you get your truck cut. Okay. I think we made ourselves pretty clear. But Donald wasn't worried because he had cone and his lawyer and paid the inflated concrete prices. My fat Tony Solano was sent to jail years later. Trump Tower was listed as one of the contracts at the trial as part of his racketeering business. Okay, but it, okay, but it doesn't matter.

He paid off the mob. Now at this same time, all of the developers in New York were banning together to stop the mob from controlling them. Right. Except this guy. Okay. In 1980, the federal, the FBI subpoenaed Donald to find out about his relationship with John Cody, a teamster official who was close with the Gambino family.

Cody supplied concrete trucks and often got free apartments in buildings. Okay. Donald denied everything. Okay. Cody came under indictment in 1982 and he also ordered a citywide shutdown of concrete work, except at Trump Tower. Interesting. Where the work just went on to the steady clip.

So. When the tower, when the tower was finished, a woman with no job bought three apartments right under the Trump triplex, which was on top. Donald actually helped her get three million mortgage without filling out a loan application or showing any sort of financial papers. Oh boy. Cody would sometimes stay there and he did 500,000 work and renovations on the apartments. Okay.

When Coney was convicted of racketeering and sent to prison, Donald then sued the woman for $250,000 for work she had done in the apartment. She countersued for 20 million and accused Donald of taking kickbacks from contractors and said she would publicize that. Donald suddenly settled and paid her $500,000. Wow. Is she really should have gone with 100 million? Anytime you sue him from now on, it has to be for 100 million.

Okay. So that's a heartwarming tale. Yep. Around this time, Fred Jr. died in 1981 at the age of 43. His life cut short by alcohol. He just drank himself to death. At least Donald never had any. Mm-hmm. Now in 1981, Donald was also trying to get into the casino business in Atlantic City.

To be in the casino business, you couldn't have any ties to the mob. Okay. See where there's a problem right now? Nope. And there was usually a lengthy year-long investigation to look into your dealings. Okay. So surely the same regiment will be inserted into this situation? New Jersey, Donald acted like he didn't want the mob anywhere near his business.

He would never do anything like that. I hate the mob. And even offered to put an undercover FBI agent in his casinos. He demanded a set- That's a female body inspector, right? Yep. To Trump, right? Okay.

He demanded a six-month investigation instead of a year one. Okay. So is this just the situation of just, is his whole makeup is essentially like, he's just the first to demand things sort of? Well, he has, in this case, he said he wouldn't build in Atlantic City if it was longer than six months. And New Jersey was scared that he would try to build a casino in New York or somewhere nearby and kill Atlantic City.

Right. So they were kind of over a barrel. Like they went for it. It's a little like what's going on with Amazon right now, building a structure in some city. And they're just like, what will you give us? Yeah, it's the same. Okay.

Donald was supposed to disclose any investigations into his past, which he did not do. Sure. Okay. He did not tell them about a federal grand jury that looked into how he had gotten an option to buy the Penn Central Rail Yards or the Cody Inquiry. Both of those would have stopped him from getting a gaming license. But then after this experience, shortly he learned that full disclosure is the move. It's true.

This is when it all turns around. That's good. He got a gaming license in 1982. Okay. When his book, The Art of the Deal came out, in which he described doing things that should have kept him from getting a gaming license, it was an embarrassment to the licensing commission and state investigators. I mean, yeah, you just don't brag about things you get away with.

My book called No Two Shits Given. Yeah, yeah. So now the Division of Gaming Enforcement, because of the decision they made, is forced to defend Donald Trump saying mobsters and union bosses are unreliable witnesses and you can't trust what they say. Sorry. Say that one more time. So they look bad.

Right. Because of his book. Right. So they're like. So now they have to. Instead of admitting the truth. Which is this guy shouldn't have a license. They're like.

They're defending Donald Trump against what the mobsters have said. Right. Which is the truth. Right. Okay. Gotcha. They put Donald under oath. Boy, God, boy, that's got a good ring to it.

He said he had nothing to do with the misconduct or that he couldn't remember. And they left it. And they left it at that. That was the end of their investigation. I don't get. That was it. They were done at that point. I just.

They had cleared it all up. You know, if I if you could just I. Not remembering needs to start to become a crime. Oh my God. It needs to be like. Or you're allowed to not remember two things. And if you don't remember three things, then you're lying. That's it.

You get two things you can't remember. No. So far it seems like everyone in government has Alzheimer's. Now this is a shame because author Wayne Barrett wrote that Donald met personally with Big Tony Solano at Roy Cohen's house. Barrett found witnesses that were at the meeting. One of whom kept detailed notes. Okay.

But gaming enforcement cleared Donald. Of course. Many others, including car dealers have been thrown out of the casino business for much less. Well, yeah. Next, Donald Barrett bought 100 Central Park South, a 14 story building facing Central Park. You wanted to tear it down or replace it with luxury condos. Okay. But the apartments were rent controlled.

No, that's no good. That helps people. And the tenants didn't want to leave. All right. What do we do? Because they had a nice low rent place on Central Park. Sure. Donald did not want to buy them out.

So in the press, he labeled them, quote, people of great wealth and millionaires in mink coats driving Rolls Royces. So he's saying they're rich people taking advantage of rent controlled prices. Sure. Well, and if anybody should defend the little man, it's the guy who had Jeeves take him around in a Rolls on his paper route. Although most of the people were just regular Joe's or old people on fixed incomes. Right.

He told the superintendent. So his plan is like, let's kick these millionaires out so I can make luxury apartments. But the press is running with it. So who gives a shit? Well, look, the press is the press. He told the superintendent to stop doing repairs, stop cleaning, and to stop accepting packages as the building. Donald cut off the hot water and heat during the freezing winters.

One water. Literally icing them out. But one water pipe leak was so bad that mushrooms grew in a renter's carpet. Oh, my God. Oh, did he try him out? He allowed a rodent infestation to take hold. Okay. He sued one tenant for not paying rent, even though the guy had proof that he had paid rent.

Okay. The superintendent was also instructed to spy on all the tenants. Okay. Some who had done construction on their apartments were the approval from prior landlords were told that they had 10 days to restore them to their original conditions. Okay. Interesting. He drilled holes in the ceiling above the bed of a cancer patient who was battling for her life.

Oh, God. To get dust to float down. The building fight would drag on for years. Donald bought newspaper ads offering to shelter homeless people in the building. Okay. Well, I mean, uh-huh. But city officials declined thinking it odd to move the homeless into a building that was scheduled to be demolished.

Donald said, quote, it'll take two or three years to get everybody out. And in the meantime, I'll have more and more vacant apartments for the indigent. So he's got, yeah. I mean, this is, this is like Mother Teresa the landlord. That's exactly what it is. Helping. Helping. He's a helping person.

Much like Fred Jesus Christ Trump. Thank you. You're welcome. The International Rescue Committee tried to take Donald up on it. Seeking temporary housing for Polish exiles. Okay. Two letters went unanswered. He's always been a friend of the Pollock, hasn't he, DA?

Two letters went unanswered. So the New York Times called Donald's office and were told by a secretary the offer was for Americans, not refugees. Good Lord. Do we need to put Mr. Barron on the phone? These people don't speak American. Sorry. I just realized, I mean, Mr. Barron and then he names his son Barron.

I mean, it's just, okay. No. This is an homage to a character I used to do. No one judge ruled the tenants, not one judge ruled the tenants were being harassed. Okay. Even though they clearly were being harassed. Well, I mean, when mushrooms grow on your floor, I think it's time to say that. Let's produce.

Yeah, these are not okay conditions. Trump claimed victory, but so do the tenants as the building was never torn down. Many still have their apartments and pay under $1,000 a month today. Wow. Though Eric Trump owns a condo on the top floor, but Donald's still made a killing as the building. Does he just drill holes in the floor and urinate down? That's called trickle down economics.

No, don't touch me. Okay. I'd rather, I told you not to touch me earlier and I will touch you. You've touched me three times. I've touched you once tonight. In 1981, Donald was part of a group. He tried to buy the Baltimore Colts, but it was turned down. Right.

Okay. Familiar with that a little bit. Then came the USFL. It was a new league. Right. That would play during the spring summer. Whereas the NFL played during the fall. Right.

And winner and Donald bought the New Jersey Generals in 1984 for around $9 million. Well, I mean, I think when you look at the legacy of the generals now, good decision. The USFL market itself is being more fun than the NFL. Sure. And the NFL tried to block the USFL from getting leases and stadiums that they both used. USFL was very excited to get Donald. Yeah, I bet. He generated publicity and he had great business smarts.

Right. Yeah. And in year two. And no pollocks in the league. Thank you. Yeah. And in year two, Donald replaced the quarterback. He won a Doug Flutey.

I was just about to, how great would it be if he put himself in his quarterback. I got this. Have you met my son Eric? Yeah. Blue 32, blue 32, red 41, set, set, someone else grab it. He apparently knew absolutely nothing about football this whole time. Okay. Never a thing.

Yeah. Well, you don't need to understand that to run a league about it. So Donald won a Doug Flutey. It was a big college player, but short as fuck. Yep. The generals gave Flutey a six year deal for 8.3 million and he was now the highest paid player in all of football. Including that. Right.

Okay. And Flutey sucked ass. It's weird for Flutey. Yeah. I mean, he's like, okay, you sure? I'll take that. I mean, I'm going to say, yeah, six year. Flutey sucked.

So Donald said he wanted to refuck. Oh, God, what? I don't think that's how it works, bud. Said you pay, especially in the NFL or whatever football league. Now, obviously, Flutey wasn't going to give money back. So a publicist named John Barron. There he is. Called the media and said the other USF owners had actually asked Donald to sign Flutey for the good of the league and made a verbal agreement to help pay part of the contract.

Oh, God, Mr. Barron. I mean, so the, okay. So the man has an imaginary friend. An aggressive imaginary friend. Yeah, yeah. Barron quote, when a guy goes out and spends more money than a player is worth, he expects to get partial reimbursement from the other owners. Uh-huh. Is that, yeah, that's a first, right?

Hey, sorry, your team sucks. Here's two million. Hey, you know how this works. Let's all be really pretty good. Come on. I certainly don't want a situation where one team is using money to their advantage more than another. I mean, that would just be, whoa. Trump Tower was finished in 1983, a 68 story glass tower.

There is a marble lobby with a waterfall with a pianist and violinist playing in tuxedos. Sure. And of course, a grand escalator. Absolutely. Trump Cafe, Trump's ice cream parlor and Trump's store, the exterior is Trump's name and huge bronze letters. In 1984, Donald went in on a casino and the Holiday Inn Casino Hotel was built. Where is that? Where? Atlantic City.

Okay. Two years later, Donald bought the Holiday Inn Casino and renamed it the Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino. Okay. By the way, better ring. Holiday Inn Casino? It's not good. Come on. Come to the Motel 6 Casino. Come on.

Welcome to La Quinta's Gamble House. We have half penny slots. Yeah. You just got to bite them in half. So he had work done on it. He hired people like Cabinet Builder Edward Freel, who got a $400,000 contract to build desks and bars and cabinets. And he made all that money, good night, his story. Edward Freel's business had been started in 1949 by his father.

The work was finished in 1984 and the final bill submitted to the Trump Organization was $83,000. So he'd gotten payment, you know, payments as he went along. Sure. The final $83,000. You got your last payment. Move on to the next job. Great. Yeah.

Sometime later, Freel got a call asking him to come to the casino offices for a meeting. Exciting. Just done some great work. When he got there, he found there were a few other trade guys there too and they would get called and one by one they would go into the office. Trump, when it was his turn, Donald told Freel his work was inferior, even though the general contractor had approved it. Donald said Freel would not be getting paid the $83,000. The Donald said he would hire him for future jobs though. Okay. You see a problem with that?

There's so many problems. I don't know where to really start with it. So if I hire a guy to fix the gutters on my house. And the gutters are shitty and I say I'm not going to pay him. Do I then say, hey, but let's work together later? Absolutely. You absolutely do. I mean, truly, if you look from Trump's perspective, that's genius because it is going like, hey, I'm not going to pay you. But if you're cool with not getting paid, let's work together again.

That's a great move for me. But it is pretty much a case of nobody does this, right? Edward Freel. I mean, even today in construction work, for the most part, it's still incremental. For the most part, there is very, very, very, very few people that use this as a business model. Okay. There you go. Edward Freel instead hired an attorney to sue for his money, but the attorney advised him Donald would drag the case out in court and legal fees would exceed what they could recover. And then he'll also get countersued for $100 million.

Right. It would just be a bill that was never paid. And in 1985, Donald bought the Atlantic City Hilton after the Hilton was rejected for a gaming license and he named it Trump's Castle Hotel Casino. So now he has two casinos. Ivana became Vice President of Interior Design for the Trump Organization. Yes. That needs to be really big and gold. Gold? I think I have a bigger sink. I sink the normal lads.

And gold. And the floor makes a pattern. Oh! Oh! Oh! Gold! Yes. Gold. And also gold. Actually, to finish the job, I'm going to need to have two more babies. That's 450 below what we need to be. She went to work running.

Come on, twins. Every time she gets pregnant. Please, twins. Triplets, please. Oh my God. The magic quintuplets. Ivana went on to work running Trump Castle Casino, spending two or three days a week there. Well, that's how you run a show. Ivana was awful to everyone that worked there. She wanted to bring glamour to Trump Castle and was all about appearances. She once moved an unsightly pregnant waitress off the casino floor and placed her in a distant lounge where she'd make no money and was out of sight.

The waitress was then given a clown suit to wear to disguise her condition. What? The fuck just happened? What? Okay. All right. Let's just break this down a little bit. Okay. So you have someone who you're worried is distracting and ruining the vibe of your area based on their pregnancy. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'll buy it in your premise. Okay. So you move them away. Okay. I'm buying it in your premise.

And then you put them in a clown suit. Okay. What the fuck is going on? Well, you're hiding the pregnancy now. It's just a big clown. Also, don't use your regular voice. You got to be more like that clown who is in the parade. You're like a fat happy clown. Oh, good. And then any time if anyone asks what is in your belly, say glitter.

Say balloons and glitter stored in your belly. By the way, if you have the baby, you give it to me. I split it to 250 with you. 50-50. Maybe I get 200 and you get a 50. As far as black people, it went as expected. Dave, I always love when a sentence on this podcast starts with as fast for the black people. Kip Brown, a former employee at Trump Castle, said, quote, when Donald and Ivana came to the casino, the bosses would order all the black people off the floor.

Move, move, move, move. Put on your clown suits. Clown suits. And put us in back. Good lord. I mean, what year is this? Hey, everybody. Donald and Ivana coming down. So if all the black people could just get in the basement, thank you. Okay, guys. Let's do it just like we did in rehearsal. Come on. Blacks, whites don't touch. Let's go. Let's go.

It's like we're doing laundry. We're separating. We're separating. Jimmy, what are you? I don't know anymore. I'm so nervous. You're a black guy. Yeah, I know, but I don't know which way to go. You just get out of here. You get out of here. Let me do white face. Let me put on a clown costume. That's not how it works, kid.

I don't think I can work in my morning. All right, fire him. Fire this guy. He's still holding me $50,000. Oh, yeah, we'll get you that. I feel like you're not gonna. You're so cute. Okay. Joseph Weichselbaum.

Well, this sounds like a white man. Ran Donald's personal helicopter service and flew high rollers to his casinos. Okay. In 1979, he had been caught embezzling and pleaded guilty to two felonies. Okay. Now that should make it so he doesn't work anywhere in our casino. Right. I guess now that I'm hearing it back, sure. The casinos were then informed in 1985 that Weichselbaum was indicted in Ohio

on charges of trafficking, pot and cocaine. Well, okay. I mean, that happens. So what? Yeah. I mean, he has a helicopter. What's he supposed to do? Not use it? Yeah, just look out your window at the left. Donald, however, kept employing the pilot.

This again should have cost Donald Trump his casino license. Right. He rented an apartment to Weichselbaum in Trump Plaza for seven grand in cash a month and flight services. Oh, my God. So not only did he not boot him out, now he's got him in an apartment in Trump Plaza. The pilots company went bankrupt and Donald just kept using him. Donald even wrote a letter vouching for Weichselbaum at his sentencing saying he was, quote,

a credit to the community who is conscientious, forthright and diligent. I guess if you analyze those qualities, though, none of those say can't be an asshole. He's forthright. Yeah. He comes forward and says, I trafficked cocaine. Sure. Weichselbaum got 18 months at the sentencing while everyone else in the trafficking operation got 20 years.

Wow. At least he said Donald had a job for him, and then he moved into Trump Tower. Well, it turns out that Weichselbaum's girlfriend had just bought two apartments for $2.4 million in cash. I was hoping you'd say in cocaine. All right. Here's a lesson I'm learning throughout all this. Become friends with Trump.

Yeah. He has your back. Well, up to a point. But for the most part, you are like, you're in. Yeah, you're in. Once you're in, you're not out. Unless, of course. So Donald was flying all over the country doing deals, becoming the businessman he always wanted

to be. And on one flight, Jessica Leeds, a traveling businesswoman, for a paper company, found herself sitting next to him in first class. They'd never met. And about 45 minutes in, Donald lifted the armrest and started touching her. He grabbed her breasts and slid his hand up her skirt. Jesus. What year is this?

This is this should be 85. I believe. Okay. So he moves. Okay. She fled to the back of the plane after she told afterwards. She told four people about the incident who all confirmed her story. She bumped into Donald at a charity event two years later and he insulted her with a crude

remark. Good Lord. I just, it really is true. I just can't, I can't imagine not only an era, but just feeling like you could move an armrest up and be like, I'm going to play with your breasts. Okay. I'm actually not asking. Like to guys like you and me, it's not even like part of a possibility.

Like you sit in that, you sit in that seat and you go, man, the craziest thing that could happen is that a window could pop out. But like it would never in a million years pop into my head like, why don't I lift this up and rest and try and get this, I should be able to touch this lady's vagina right here. I mean, she's sitting next to me. Look, look, this is the price of living in 3A, ma'am. Hey, look, if you're going to be in first class, you get finger banged.

All right. It says it on the ticket. It really says something about how creeped out you are by Donald Trump when you leave first class for coach. Take some real shit to do that. Donald bought Mar-a-Lago in 1985, 118 rooms in Palm Beach for $10 million. It was Ivana's idea. He spent years just saying that he should only pay $7 million in property tax.

Right. Okay. Obviously. What you can't do. You can't argue with property tax. Well, Dave, you're saying it like, I mean, that's like fighting with gravity. The reality is what it is. So your property tax is on $10 million?

Okay, I'll pay $100,000. I'll pay $50. $50. No. Last offer. So that's not how property tax works. $75 and you get a lemonade. Boom.

Done. Over. Okay. So there's just actually an amount that you pay. Yeah. $75 and you get a lemonade. Okay. I'm going to pay $75 and I'm removing the lemonade.

I don't like your attitude, you no longer get lemonade. Okay. So the actual amount, like I said, is $100,000. $75 is what I'm willing to pay. Okay. No. What? I'm just saying what I'm going to pay.

What do you want me to pay? The $100. I'll pay $75. That's not what I'm going to pay you. $75. All right. Lemonade's back in the mix. $75 and a lemonade.

Come on. Put it there. That's what this is. Come on. It's just a negotiable thing. Oh my God. Listen to this person. Am I crazy right now?

I'll give you $30, two Capri sons. Okay. I'm going to go. Okay. That feels like how most of my deals go. That's not a deal. That's not a deal. I'm going to watch them walk away.

The Trumps initially kept the decor, but filled many end tables with dozens of silver framed magazine covers of Donald. Well, is this where they found a bunch of fake ones? Oh. Oh, is it where they found fake ones? I didn't know that. Yeah. There was a bunch.

They eventually were just like, hey, wait. That wasn't a time. That's remarkable. That's remarkable. He wasn't on this month of people. That's the best thing ever. He hired an interior designer, but took over himself, quote, because I didn't like some of it and I thought I could do a better job.

Sure. Yeah. Well, as an interior designer, your first instinct is to pour gold everywhere. Hey, the thing about this room is, what about gold? No. I'm actually thinking what would work great with those Victorian drapes would be a nice sort of, well, I think if you see it all put together, you'll think a little bit more. Why am I not hearing gold?

Well, because I'm actually telling you what we'll actually do. Why are you still here? Okay. We'll say gold. My God. Gold. Let's do it. Okay.

My God. The USFL wasn't going the way Donald had hoped, and he somehow convinced the other USFL owners to move from spring to fall to compete directly with the NFL. Okay. The plan was to force a merger. In 1986, the owners voted to move and then file a 1.7 billion antitrust lawsuit against the NFL over TV rights. The judge ruled in favor of the USFL.

What? Sorry, this just seems so crazy. Yeah. It's basically like you show up on someone's land and you're like, you owe me half of your house and then the government's just like, yeah. Well, hold on. Okay. So, the judge agreed, but said the USFL's downfall was its own fault and awarded the

league $1 in damages. Oh, my God. Yes. The USFL appealed all the way to the Supreme Court, and in the end, they collected a check for $3.76, including interest. What? That's 21 cents for each team. They made, sorry, they eventually out of their lawsuit got $3.76.

Yeah. I mean, was the stenographer just doing parenthetical like laughter the whole time? Snickers. They're laughing again. The USFL never played another game. Donald Trump killed a football league. Doug Flutie killed a football league because the other owners pressured Donald Trump to sign him.

By the way. Why would you sign a guy who's five foot four? May I say something very quickly? Doug Flutie, well, had a rough start as far as an NFL player, did go on to have some pretty solid success as a Buffalo Bills player, and he had Flutie Flakes, and then even beyond that, he's the only guy who I think has ever, like there's something with like, he did, he's the only starting quarterback who's ever kicked an extra point or something like that.

There's some weird thing like that. He actually, he was one of those guys that had that intangible winner thing. Yes. Like you were, if you looked at him in college, you would be like, yeah, why doesn't someone take a shot on this guy, but you don't pay him more money than anybody ever. You certainly don't make a player like that the face of your league without having tested him for sure. But I just, I know Doug Flutie's a fan of the podcast, so I just don't want him to

hear this and just get so upset. Right. And Doug again, I'm sorry for singing. Flutie loves the dollop. I'm sorry for singing. We have short shorts so many times to you. That's true. But it didn't really matter to Donald because what he got from the entire USFL fiasco was

publicity. Quote, before the USFL, I was well known, but not really well known. After taxes, I would say I lost 3 million and I got a billion dollars of free publicity. How is it that, seriously, like how is it that, is it just that he's just great at spinning failure, essentially, because the USFL is a disaster. But it did get him tons of attention. Right. Right.

So he's right. Right. If your goal isn't to be a developer hiding in the shadows, then your goal is to have your name out in front of everything, then whatever gets your name out works. Right. Those are always good people. Between that and the ice rink in New York City, Donald's becoming a very big name. Central Park had an ice rink that had been under repair for six years.

Okay. Well, how hard is it to, isn't it just pouring water? It's cold? It's a fucking special. I think there's a 30 for 30 about the ice rink. It's amazing. Really? Yeah.

So it's an ongoing disaster. The rink became a symbol of dysfunction of city government and disrepair of the city. Total shit show. So Donald says he can have it done in no time. Okay. He's basically sticking a knife in Mayor Koch, who he fought with often and constantly they were bickering. And he said he'd get it done fast and that would be the reward.

So Koch, I always want to, their name is the same, but Koch, Koch, Koch called Donald greedy, Donald called Koch incompetent, Koch called Donald the piggy, and Donald called Koch a moron. Like it just went on fucking endlessly. Piggy's pretty good. He called him a piggy, piggy, piggy at one point. A piggy, piggy, piggy. Yeah.

Wow. Well, I don't know how it goes. With the rink, Donald made it seem like he was doing some big civic duty and he did it and the city loved him for it. And now Donald Trump is flying high. But isn't it, how, it doesn't nature take care of everything and you just need to make a pool? No, you have to have a base for that.

Don't just have a pool. Like it has to be even and so it has to be properly constructed on the bottom. It's a pool, but it has to be a very, very, you know, first of all, freezing it's a difficult way, the way you do it, how you do that. But also like it has to be a smooth surface. Smooth surface I get. Smooth surface I get. Because the first time they tried to do it was like six fucking feet lower on one end

or something. So it can be a shit show. Okay. It's also outside. It's not like an indoor rink. It's a little bit harder. I know. You're from Wisconsin.

You don't know what's happening right now. It's just like, you know, it's natural. They just happen everywhere. It certainly was raised to believe that rinks just emerge. Well, you pour beer on the, no. Yeah, beer skate. His book Art of the Deal sold 800,000 copies in 10 weeks. General Motors agreed to crank out a line of limos called the Trump series, which Donald

pitched and they went with, and then he had them refitted at a garage owned by two felons. Say that again. The GM was like, he was like, let's do a Trump series, right? And that's Trump's pitch and they were like, yeah, we'll make a Trump series. And then the idea was that he would take them and retrofit them up and retrofit them or whatever and Trump all over them and then sell them, right? It's a Trump car. Right.

And, of course, he had it done at a garage owned by two felons. Donald bought an airline and named it the Trump Shuttle. He had a powerboat race called the Trump Castle World Championships that only resulted in one death. And he started a bike race called the Tour de Trump. Oh my God. Should we split this into two? What time are we at?

Oh. 136. Oh yeah. Yeah, we'll do two. So let me hit a point where, I'll do it up until, yeah, yeah, okay. So life has gone well. By the way, I'm shocked it's an hour 36 already. It's crazy.

Life has gone well at the family's place at Trump Tower, right? They've moved into the penthouse. They got that triplex situation. Sure. It's a 53 room triplex with a rooftop park. Is the best place to put a park on a roof? It is for me. Okay.

Hey, your kid fell off the slide and he's dead. There you go. The penthouse's entrance corridor is covered in gold and mirrors. It was beautiful inside, lots of gold and mirrors and mirrored walls and mirrored ceilings and gold. The living room had 29 foot high ceilings and an erupting fountain. The dining room. An erupting fountain?

Yep. Run, run, run. The lava. Run, everybody, run. The dining room, two stories and featured carved ivory and there's marble from a castle, quote, Castle in Italy and a chandelier that hung, quote, in a castle in Austria. So they have a normal life. Yeah.

No, everything seems fine. I think we all grew up with exploding fountains and gold mirror. Ivana said the king of pop, Michael Jackson, often visited the family when he lived in Trump Tower, quote, he'd stop by and chat with Donald and me for 20 minutes and then he'd go up to the kids' floor to hang out with them for hours and hours. I think we found our break point. They'd watch MTV play Mario Brothers or Tetris and build Trump Tower in Legos. Michael was 30, 30 years old.

He could relate to Ivanka and the boys better than us. Oh my God, I mean, oh my, Zamalese is here. I just can't imagine talking to Michael Jackson for 20 minutes. It just seems like it would be insane. Fucking shit show. Yeah. What pajamas are you wearing is the first? No, and what's your favorite kind of pillow?

Okay. Do you want to know my favorite kind of pillow? That's him talking to Donald. So Donald, do you want to know my favorite? Yeah, but you know what? Because you know what Trump's favorite kind of pillow is? The Trump pillow. Trump pillow.

Hmm. Bubbles. Trump pillow. Okay. I gotta go. You know what my favorite kind of sock is? Do you ever want to go to the park and fly a kite? No.

I'm 32. I know. I know you are. And we should take a different land. We're in a different slime. No. We should take nappies. No.

Let's go splash each other. No. Get a bucket. We're splashing each other. No, we're not. We're splashing each other. Get out of here. Say we're nine.

We're nine. We're never going to get old. Don't touch me. We're going to live forever. No, we're not? Yeah. I know a place. No.

They got golden waterfalls. Hi. Do you like that, don't you? Yeah. Get under there, get yourself a nice golden shower. Can I buy this? How much is this? fifty million dollars. What? Have a sip of this coke there's wine inside. In 1986 there was a

high-end Bulgarian jewelry store in New York. Bulgari. I think that's still a chain right? I'm familiar with it but I would not be surprised that the pronunciation was wrong. Donald would go into the store with a woman hopefully his wife probably not. Great. And he would buy her an expensive necklace. Sure. Usually this transaction would include the New York City tax and the state sales tax. Sure. But Donald would ask the store to ship the jewelry to an out-of-state location where no New York sales tax could be collected. That's a fun experience for someone to go into a jewelry store and find out in six weeks

you can go collect it out of state. The store would then just send an empty jewelry box to the location and Donald would walk out the door with the jewelry. Wow. The New York sorry the state and city tax collectors eventually caught on and Donald testified against the people at the jewelry store. Oh my god. Look at Aaron. Aaron's getting hurt over there. Aaron's head dropped into his hand. He didn't know we were looking either. That's a genuine reaction. Apparently a ton of rich people were doing this. Okay. Okay. Around this time Donald's connection to the mob and bad boy

lawyer Roy Kohn was so his connection to the mob right right. He is disbarred for attempting to steal from a client lying in other conduct than an appellate court found quote particularly reprehensible. Okay. Donald was there for him. He testified that Kohn who was dying from AIDS was a man of good character and should keep his license to practice law. Okay. That's nice. You know he's totally mobbed up. Right. Now he's got his casinos and mobster Robert LaBoudie becomes a frequent customer. Okay. Donald's casinos. He's a horse dealer. And you guys need heroin. No. No. Not that kind of. Actual horses. What do you guys need?

Lomali? What do you ponies have there? What does an equine take to relax is my question. So he has close ties to the Gambino crime boss John Gotti. Sure. And Donald bends over backwards for this mobster no matter how horrific his behavior and he was very well known for his temper tantrums. Okay. That's a good place to end. I think that's that works. All right. Yeah. Or we'll do it. We'll just do it back to back. We'll finish it tonight. But yeah. Because the second half is where it gets fucking insane. Oh I'm starting here. Thanks to hear that. All right ladies and gentlemen tune in next week for more about the sitting president.