The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 300B - Donald Trump (Part Two)

Episode Date: November 14, 2017

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds continue to examine Donald Trump.SOURCESREDBUBBLE MERCHTOUR DATES...

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Starting point is 00:00:45 week I tired guy hat wear unshaven Dave Anthony read the story from American history to my friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Well that's not true in this case because. Right sorry. Gareth Reynolds who did the first half a moment ago. This is part two. Yeah it's part two of the Donald Trump life story. This is a trellop. Trump lot. Trump but Trumple. Dallump. Trouble. I think Dallump. Trouble. Trumple. Like double but a Trouble. This is a Trouble yeah I guess it's a Trouble feature. It's not going well so far. No I think we've lost all the momentum with a little break. God what did we do. No it's not going well. So as which I'll put in
Starting point is 00:01:41 front of the other one but as. As our subject enjoys suing everything that moves. I would like to say before this episode. Allegedly. Allegedly. Because I can play your game too. Allegedly. So. We should just say this is not something we know as fact. It's just some people are saying. That's right. Sources are saying. Sources are saying. Now where we left off. Donald Trump has his two casinos. And mobster Robert Labuti becomes a frequent customer and he is a guy who. He's into horses either. He buys and sells them or he raises them whatever but he's a. I know a guy who's into horses. He's not allowed to go to the track naked anymore.
Starting point is 00:02:35 This is a different type of horse guy. Okay. Yep. Okay. You're thinking of someone else. Okay. You're thinking of Larry and we can talk about him. Yeah. He's he shouldn't be allowed. Shady Larry is his name. Yeah. So. Hey why don't you leave the stables for a minute and I can comb the ponies. Leave us alone. And go ahead and leave the skirt. Yeah. We're gonna put skirts on all the horses. Yeah. So. Labuti has ties of the John Gotti again being a crime boss. And Donald Trump bends over backwards to help this guy out. No matter how horrific his behavior was and he is known for being terrible. He would throw dice into chandeliers when
Starting point is 00:03:17 he was losing. I would throw them at security. He'd throw game chips on the casino floor. One state regulator called Labuti the most obnoxious abusive person that we have had in this town. He would if he was like a James Bond character he'd be known as Dice Man. It's maybe like odd job but with dice. But because he was gambling thousands at a time Donald would cater to his every whim. Okay. Even if it was illegal. Labuti was a known racist and misogynist. He racist torses. One employee said Labuti quote started cursing screaming and banging the table. I don't want no fucking woman here. I don't need these bitches in my game. I
Starting point is 00:03:58 don't need you people before get out of here. Why are you doing this to me. My God. He would use often the same language with blacks and Asians and pretty much any other minority that was around. Sure. And Donald Donald's casino would even though it was illegal to do so. Totally help him out. While there was no formal policy lower level managers reassigned workers based on their race and gender for the mobster. Wow. At one point Donald fell no clown outfits. No clown outfits. Donald fell for Labuti's daughter Edith for her 35th birthday. Donald drew through her lavish party and gave her a Mercedes Benz. Okay. But the
Starting point is 00:04:39 man who ran the Trump Plaza for Donald his name is Hoyt told Labuti to not let his daughter go out with Donald's Donald because he'd end up killing Donald. Okay. So Labuti told Donald to stay away from his daughter or quote I'll pull your fucking balls from your legs. Well first of all the man's not an anatomical scientist. I know what balls are they're right behind your knee. You got one behind each knee. Not crazy. That was the end of Edith and Donald's relationship. Okay. Even though he's married. Right. I mean he throws a party and buys her a car and he's married to someone else. I mean I guess if you're the
Starting point is 00:05:28 wife you're a little like just how about a just a tiny bit. Hide it. Not in your face. Hide it. I mean we're not saying do it but hide it. So after this Donald and Labuti's relationship continued Donald would ferry him around on his helicopter and around this time Labuti owned a horse named Alibi. Wow. Sorry when you said you have an alibi and you took us to the stables we didn't understand what you're saying. Talking about my horse. Where were you the night where were you the night of the murder. There's my alibi. Oh my god. Look at her. She's a god damn beauty. The defense calls to the stand Alibi the horse for an alibi. Say it.
Starting point is 00:06:13 Say it. Say it Alibi. Say it click twice. Boom. Boom. That's a no. I will see you quiz latest. Hey let me just tell you one thing I think the horse he don't remember. He don't remember where he was. So he owns his horse and he says the horse has an amazing amazing pedigree and triple crown potential and has a very impressive bloodline yada yada. So he wanted to get about 500,000 for the horse that's what he's asking. Okay. Now hide I'm sorry I think I said it was Hoyt before hide who is the guy who runs Trump casinos in Atlantic City. Okay. He's a Mormon. Sure. Not just a Mormon but a high-up Mormon like one of the fucking
Starting point is 00:06:57 right. I think they call him Chief Pabu's. Chief Pabu is that made up. No I think that's the official term. No way. So he's running the casinos and he thought buying the horse would help their relationship with the booty. Okay. Who spends. He's already lost an estimated 11 million at the casinos. Okay. So Donald it's a lot of dice in the chandelier. Okay. We'll get rid of the black step. Okay. He probably actually if I remember correctly he didn't want the black spots on the die. That's right. Yeah. They're looking at me like their eyes. I hate it too. It looks like a black guy looking at me. So Donald and the booty are on the
Starting point is 00:07:42 helicopter. They talk about the horse. They shake hands. There's a deal made for the horse. Okay. 500,000. Donald's only requirement is that the horse name be changed to DJ Trump. DJ Trump. How does this not happen yet? If there is not somebody in a club spinning under the name DJ Trump there's something wrong with our shit-pop culture. The horse was sent to Florida to train but a few weeks later Donald had still not paid. Oh boy. Lawyers got involved. Trump argued having his name involved meant the price of the horse should be greatly reduced. They finally agreed to a reduced price 250,000. Okay. A few days later a virus
Starting point is 00:08:26 hit the horse farm. Okay. While DJ Trump was not showing any signs the trainer didn't want him heading to a scheduled race up north. Didn't want to work him at all just as a precaution. Working him could cause death is what the guy said. Okay. Donald was not down with that shit and ordered the horse worked. Okay. Turns out DJ Trump did have the virus and just wasn't showing any signs. His legs started shaking and he collapsed. Blood flow was reduced to the front legs and the veterinarians recommended amputating both front hoofs. Oh boy. The horse would live and the hoofs would grow back but this horse would never race again. Okay.
Starting point is 00:09:10 I'm not excited for where this is headed. When Trump heard. No. Hyde said he didn't seem to care at all. He was just happy that he hadn't cut a check yet. Okay. And he told Hyde he was backing out of the deal. Hyde was deeply disturbed that Donald was not only responsible for the horse losing its hooves but that he didn't give a fuck. So his reaction to causing an animal to be debilitated and suffer horribly was to not give a shit even slightly and just be happy that he didn't pay for it. Right. Now this guy Hyde thought this would hurt. It's all so tough for a horse to spin at clubs when it loses its front two hoofs. It's almost impossible. Yeah. Because you can't make the record
Starting point is 00:09:58 transfer as much. The whole career of the horse. It's tough. Who's going to who's going to DJ with that at this point. Yeah. It's like when Danger Mouse lost one of his hands. Right. The ones and twos that get affected. Right. So now Hyde doesn't want to piss off the mobster. Right. So he ends up agreeing to pay a hundred fifty thousand dollars for the horse of his own money. Right. And then for a horse that can't race puts him out to stud which didn't work out that great. But that didn't work out great. Putting the horse out to stud. No. Because the horse had never actually won anything. So it was just like. Right. So being a hot shot man around New
Starting point is 00:10:35 York Donald apparently had an eye out for models all the time. Sure. Sometime in the late 80s he met Marla Maples. There's a different version of how they met. It's all bullshit. Nobody really fucking knows. The month and year not know. But what is known is he started banging her while he was married to Ivana. OK. Marla was 24 years old younger than Donald. OK. She says she had a perfect childhood in Georgia like most perfect childhoods when she was 16 Marla and her mother were approached by playboy to pose nude in a mother and mother daughter spread. Oh my God. I. Just normal childhood man. That is so weird. Her dad. All right mom. Here we go. Well her dad was me and my
Starting point is 00:11:21 dad used to do naked modeling. Yeah. I mean everybody's there with her dad and all right dad. Holy shit. Look at your dick. Dicks out. Well her dad is a deacon in a Baptist church. So he must have felt good about this. So obviously and him his mom and the mother and father are getting a divorce. So obviously things are fucked up there. So naturally he told his daughter to go for it. Jesus would want. Quote my dad was saying just go for it. What the heck. Marla did not feel it was right and passed on the playboy offer but she did do pageants. She was a first runner up in the Miss Georgia teen contest. Marla then moved to New York City to make it as a model actress and met Donald and the two started having
Starting point is 00:12:03 dates in the back of his limo. What a date. Lovely. Boy that was a great date when you put my dick in your mouth. Hey sorry to make you do this again but will you run out and put that paper in the mailbox. This next one too. Don't forget the ads. Soon she was spending her time at the Trump Plaza in Atlantic City with Donald and then he moved her there. Okay. Wow. He didn't exactly keep her a secret. It's amazing that you do this and it's still less bold than throwing a party for someone you're trying to sleep with. Right. Yeah. This is less ambitious. He didn't exactly keep her a secret and like most men who love a woman and and and is married he had a large poster of Marla that he would unfurl for men
Starting point is 00:12:50 he knew saying quote the model personally gave this to me. Oh my God. That's when you're like you are still five. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Look at this. It's a truck. Yeah. Yeah. I get to play with this. Look at what I get to play with fellas. In 1988 the the construction of the Taj Mahal Casino in Atlantic City is not going well. The owner resort international wasn't paying the construction companies. It's over budget. It's behind schedule. Trump said he could save it. He just needed to control. This is how the Trump Mahal gets built. He just needs to get to get control of good financing instead of the high interest junk bonds that were currently being used to pay for the hotel. So he's like I can get a better rate. Better
Starting point is 00:13:40 deal. A better deal. We didn't get this done. The deal maker. So the gaming commission agrees if that's what he can do. Okay. There's a brief fight with Merv Griffin over the hotel but Donald ends up getting it. Okay. He then financed the hotel with exactly what he promised he would not do 6.75 million in junk bonds. Okay. With a 14% interest rate. Well that's a good one. That's low. Jesus Christ. The construction of the Taj Mahal would go on for some time. As the affair with Marla became more serious he's walking around and holding hands with her in Atlantic City now just totally out in the open. Donald became more and more nasty to his wife. He called Ivana and screamed quote you don't know what you are doing and
Starting point is 00:14:26 that dress is terrible and you're showing too much cleavage and who would touch those plastic breasts. How can you say you're showing too much cleavage and nobody would touch your breasts. Well who would touch those plastic breasts. The answer is you have you. By the way it's your wife. Right. This is not. Who's going to touch those titties. She didn't enter the X factor. You were marrying. Also these are the same. I. Disgusting. Marla get the paper car. Ivana told her friends that Donald had stopped sleeping with her but that she was still in love with them and she thought it was all her fault. That does humanize her. So things weren't just getting ugly at home. The shine was coming off the brilliant Donald
Starting point is 00:15:11 businessman. During the 80s banks were throwing money at Donald a former associate of Donald's quote you cannot believe the money the banks were throwing at us for every deal we did we would have six or eight banks who are willing to give us hundreds of millions in dollars. The banks could not sign on fast enough to anything that Donald conceived at his peak Donald had money from around 150 banks. Wow. So he's just a loan machine. Yeah. He's just a loan machine. Yeah. That's actually where that came from. That's long. That's where that came from. Yeah. It poured in four hundred million for the plaza hotel three and sixty five million to buy eastern airline shuttle service sixty three million for the Lennox
Starting point is 00:15:52 because you know it's just money from right. But Donald never intended to repay the money by the loan terms. He would refinance strategically to keep dozens of balls in the air at once. So before the housing crisis a lot of people yours truly included would have a credit card balance and would get notices from offers from credit card companies a new one open up a credit card and you can have zero interest for six months and people would just rotate their balances. Right. So you're just bouncing around from zero percent to zero percent in those six that kind of shit. Right. It's just a huge scale of it. But it's just that kind of fucking bullshit. Got you. OK. So this is how he operate. This is the plan. Then came
Starting point is 00:16:47 what Donald called quote the stupidest the stupid 1986 tax act. OK. So suddenly real estate losses could no longer be offset by increased earnings. OK. Investors vanished. The Manhattan real estate market bubble burst. Liquidity dried up. Things returning south. And on the night of April 19th 1989 20 year old white investment banker Trisha Mayelli was jogging in Central Park when she was brutally attacked. Bludgeon gagged tied raped and left for dead. Found hours later she was unconscious and suffering from hypothermia and brain damage. That same night a group of 30 teens entered the park from East Harlem some through rocks at cars others assaulted and mug people. Five of these youths two 14 year olds two 15 year
Starting point is 00:17:36 olds and a 16 year old were arrested. One was Hispanic the rest were black. The police went after them for the attack even though they had no evidence that that well Dave they were black and in a park. Thank you. They had long long hours of interrogation with no lawyers and often no parent. They were threatened denied food drink and sleep for hours and they were beaten. The young teens were all led to believe that they would be allowed to go home if they said what the police wanted to hear. Four gave statements admitting being present but blame the others for the rape which they thought would not incriminate them and they could go home. Then they were all arrested. Two weeks later Donald paid
Starting point is 00:18:17 $85,000 for ads in four of the city's newspapers. The headline read quote bring back the death penalty bring back our police. Donald wrote quote muggers and murders should be forced to suffer and when they kill they should be executed for their crimes. They must serve as examples so that others will think long and hard before committing a crime or an act of violence. After the ads the families and the teens started receiving death threats. One of the boys would later say quote Trump was the fire starter. Twisted fire starter. Thank you. But I thought Drew Barrymore was the fire starter. Did you see that movie with Stephen King movie? The prodigy. Oh you're thinking of prodigy. Did
Starting point is 00:18:59 you see the Stephen. I'm the fire starter. Okay but before. Twisted fire starter. Yeah no I. Psycho somatic addict insane. Yeah no I know the song. I'm. Do you. Before that there was another fire starter that was much more important. Just a child. Yeah Drew Barrymore. It doesn't ring a bell. Wow. But it is like he did. What is the name of the group again these guys. Central Park 5. Right Central Park 5. Like they are yeah they were considered I mean they have been vindicated. This is a good example of black before proven innocent. Right. Right. They're blacks or they're guilty. Right. At the exact same time some woman was murdered and thrown off a building but she was black and nobody gave a shit. Right. So
Starting point is 00:19:43 Michael Warren represented the Central Park 5. He said Donald's ads played a role in the trial quote he poisoned the minds of many people who lived in New York and who rightfully had a natural affinity for the victim. The boys pleaded not guilty. The prosecution's case was only the confessions. Yeah. In which they none of them admitted they just pointed the finger to. Right. Well and again because they're told they're going to get out. There's no DNA evidence that they were there. She could not remember any details of the attack and the jury found the boys guilty. They're sentenced to up to 15 years. The 16 year old was sentenced as an adult. In an interview with Larry King Donald said quote the problem
Starting point is 00:20:20 with our society is the victim has absolutely no rights and the criminal has unbelievable rights. That's a thing about criminals. Here's the deal and I've been saying this forever. The fucking rights of criminals is bananas. No that's how we found it. He's up on the criminal rights motherfucker. Quote maybe hate is what we need if we're going to get something done. Good God. What. Could you imagine saying that. No. Absolutely not. Maybe hate is what we need if we're going to get something done. Hate Trump's love. Hate. Interesting. Remember Edward Freel the cabinet maker. Yes. Right. The guy who ripped off the last eighty seven grand eighty three K. Right. Turns out he fought back against Donald. Suddenly all his
Starting point is 00:21:09 work turns out after he fought back against Donald and and tried to get the money back all his work and all the casinos in Atlantic City dried up that along with the debt left from Donald killed his business. He filed for bankruptcy on August 5th 1989 or as Freel's grandson would later say quote Trump hits everyone. Now that Donald had Marla living in Atlantic City he needed a Vana back in New York. Right. She can't be there. Right. He told her quote either you act like my wife and come back to New York and take care of your children or you run the casino in Atlantic City and we get divorced. Vana returned to New York and Donald made her president of the Plaza Hotel. He announced it at a press
Starting point is 00:21:52 conference quote my wife of Vana is a brilliant manager. I will pay her one dollar a year and all the dresses she can buy. Boy. Good God. For some reason. If if the price is right was your husband. For some reason. Vana was not happy about this. She didn't see the upside and getting paid and dressed as well. He's had a new wife in Atlantic City. Donald then a little while later moved Marla to New York where she lived on his 282 foot yacht called the Trump Princess. She lived on a yacht. Well it's 282 feet. Why wouldn't you. I would live on a fucking 282 foot yacht. I don't know man. I think after a little while you're going to want some land. Fuck that. That's a giant boat. Well I think I think I know
Starting point is 00:22:51 who you should get into a relationship with. Sucker put me on a boat. Things things between the two women came to a head in 1989 during a vacation in Aspen. OK. Donald set Marla up in a three level penthouse. He rented for ten thousand dollars a week while he put Ivana and the kids up and much less expensive accommodations. Sure. Sure. At lunch. But she did give him a poster. Thank you. I didn't want to say it. You're welcome. At lunch with Donald one afternoon Ivana saw Marla was also at the same restaurant. So Ivana. Ivana Darling Ivana and Donald are eating and Marla is eating with a friend. All right. So now Donald Trump becomes Donald Jack Tripper. Now there's two versions of the story. So
Starting point is 00:23:39 I just kind of left it out. Marla's. Ivana says Marla came over and said I love your husband to you. Marla said that Ivana started screaming. Quote she couldn't pronounce my name but she was asking me if I was mula. Wait. What. Just. Yes an accent. She's asking if I mula. She wants to know if I am mula. Excuse me. Are you mula. No. Ivana is saying are you mula. Oh are you mula. She has an accent. Okay. I get it now. So she thinks Marla's mula. I mean. Are you cash. It's all love. It doesn't matter. Are you on the mula. Mula mooples. She just kept asking if I was the one who had been loving her husband for years. Is you're the one loving husband for years mula mooples. Hmm. Is you loving. Is you
Starting point is 00:24:32 shuck his corks. Yes. Is that what you do. You give him bly droops. What. You give him bly droops. I don't. Do you suck his noosh. What. Are you doing it to his noosh. I don't know what you're. Did you put his noosh inside your fortune. Answer me mula mooples. I don't know what you're talking about. Tell me. Is any time when Donald has put his dang-tang inside your ripper. Ripper. Oh my. Is mula. Is this. What is. Is mula mooples. Heard of horring. What. Are you heared of horring. Horring. Why you call me a whore. No. I would know if I want to call you higher. I call you higher. Okay. But I don't call you higher. Okay. You. You. Okay. You know what. She is heared of horring. You. He's had the horring.
Starting point is 00:25:25 What. Guy Wayne is mooples. Seek of looking at you. Lord these gashen. So Donald's well kept secret is no longer a secret. Wasn't a well kept secret at all. A few months later news broke that Donald was leaving Ivana for Marla. The press went crazy. Of course. New York Post headline was from something Marla said. Should the adulterators get the death penalty. Thank you. Thank you. Maybe a little hated spice this up. Thank you. So the New York Post headline is something that Marla said to a friend. Okay. Quote. Best sex I've ever had. Okay. Next to a photo of Donald. Donald is not upset in the least. Of course. In Trump Tower that day in the office he waved it around for his workers. Look at this. Huh.
Starting point is 00:26:18 Look at this. I got a crazy good dick. I don't just lay pipe in buildings gang. Okay. Sometimes they use wet cement. You guys know what I'm talking about. Come on. Quote. He absolutely loved that. He waved it around the office. Did you see this. Everyone who worked there were kind of horrified. He's hired a little newsy. Extra extra. Mr. Trump's dick's addictive. Did you see this. Everyone who worked there was kind of horrified. We all thought it made him look bad but he didn't. So Marla went into hiding because of the press frenzy. Yeah. Because she's getting like she's the paparazzi's all over. Yeah. So she gets a red wig and uses a friend's passport and goes to Guatemala where she spent a month's living. Excuse me.
Starting point is 00:27:02 Yeah. Go ahead. Excuse me. She put on a red wig and illegally used the passport and that work. That's exactly right. Okay. Doki. Different time. Yeah. Have you watched Narcos. Also think about all the stuff he puts immigrants through or people who are really from like this. That's interesting. And then he puts a red wig on someone and sends him to Guatemala. What an interesting. Hmm. Marla's dad wrote a country song about the events called Look at Us Now. Look at us now. Father and daughter went to Nashville to work on the tune. Oh my gosh. It might be the weirdest thing I've heard in this whole story. Being a loving partner, Donald negotiated with Playboy for one million for a spread on Marla. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Boy, oh boy. I mean everything is monetized. Yeah. Everything. Yeah. Even Mula. She refused to pose nude again. Did they offer for mom come in? I'm a little bit older but I'm ready to do this. I still got it. Let me know. Hey. What do you need? Why don't I do this thing on the bed? Marla did do an ad for No Excuses Jeans for $600,000. Right. No excuses. Now Ivana hired a PR man to help her through the mess. The press was siding with Ivana. Donald would scream at his lawyers quote, this is bullshit. Okay. He saw himself as the good guy in the whole thing. Of course. How could he not? To tell quote, to tell you the truth, I've made Ivana a very popular woman. I've made a lot of satellites. Hey, whether it's
Starting point is 00:28:36 Marla or Ivana, Marla can do any movie she wants now. Ivana can do whatever she wants. I've made a lot of satellites. He's talking about human beings he's supposed to be in love with. I've made a lot of satellites. You just don't know if he's being extremely insensitive or has no idea what satellites are. I think both are in play here. It might be all two. I get the weather from her now. Look, I've got two beautiful women who have great careers. I also build Dopolis. So do the math. No, I did it. Four plus nine is 13. In 1990, Kristen Anderson was at a Manhattan nightclub sitting on a red velvet couch talking to a friend. Well, Dave, whatever happens
Starting point is 00:29:28 clearly already, she's asking for it. I mean, good Lord. She did not know who was sitting next to her until Donald slid his hand under her miniskirt up her inner thigh and touched her vagina through her underwear. Oh my God. She shoved him away forcefully and fled looking back to see it was Donald Trump. Anderson and her friends were all disgusted. She also told a friend days after it occurred. So not only did she say it happened, but people saw it and she told other friends. Right. I mean, he really, dude, it's so he really thinks that you can just grab him by the pussy. But the thing to me is, is like, I when I hear this, I go, so he was shitfaced, right? But he doesn't drink. No. So he's just a guy who
Starting point is 00:30:15 is over full sobriety, sits down and starts trying to, may I say, grab a woman by the pussy literally. It is crazy that it that he was that he does just grab them by the pussy. Trump's Taj Mahal costing a billion dollars in charge. He's in charge. It's he's the president of America. Trump's Taj Mahal costing a billion dollars opened in April 1990 to great fanfare. It was billed as the eighth wonder of the world. This is a big deal. Huge deal. But the Taj Mahal missed its first interest payment in 1990. Okay. Remember, it's the 14% interest. It's way behind. It's way over budget. Also, the casino didn't pay the people who built it. That's a shocking twist. The New Jersey Casino Control Commission said at least 253
Starting point is 00:31:16 subcontractors weren't paid in full or on time, including workers who had installed walls, chandeliers and plumbing. Together, they were owed $69.5 million. And you're allowed to you are allowed to do that because you're like your other option is to spend more than what your wage is lost on legal fees. So why don't you just take it? If you have if you have lawyers that you already employ, then why not just have them work on fucking people out of money? Right? Right? Because it doesn't cost you anything. It's cheaper than paying those people. One of the workers was Marty Rosenberg of Atlantic
Starting point is 00:31:56 Plate Glass Company. He was owed $1.5 million and Donald was offering $0.30 on the dollar. Okay. Nice. Cool. When it became obvious what was going on, Rosenberg took an informal leadership role and repped up to 150 contractors. Okay. Rosenberg quote, there were a lot of companies, some did not survive. Rosenberg managed to get 70 cents on the dollar for his company and his business survived. Okay. A look at Donald's entire time in business by USA Today revealed across Donald's huge organization a pattern of frequently failing to pay small businesses and individuals. Trump organization businesses would sometimes tie them up in court or negotiate for years or
Starting point is 00:32:40 just not pay at all. The company could easily outlast much smaller opponents with the goal of draining their resources. Some people just would give up the fight or settle for less. Some declare bankruptcy or went out of business altogether. The first example would be the first big building he did in which he didn't pay Polish workers $100,000. And from that he learned. This works. Correct. Allegedly. Now we know someone who was affected by this. Say you're a guy. No. There's a committee named Joey Diaz who went to prison in I believe 88. And when he was due to get out around this time, he started calling people who promised him a job in New Jersey and New York. And
Starting point is 00:33:40 the deal was he was in Colorado in prison and he worked out with his lawyer that if he could prove he had a job in New York that they would allow him to go there instead of doing his parole in Colorado. Well, when he started calling around New York, he found out that the companies that he had promised him a job were out of business. Because. Everyone, Donald Trump. Donald Trump was like a fire through small businesses and contractors in New York City. Twisted fire starter. So of course, of course we know someone who was affected because the reach is too vast. So in 1990, bankers wanted interest payments that Donald couldn't make, right? So everything's
Starting point is 00:34:27 collapsing. That tax happened. Shit's starting to fall apart. He can't keep the plate spinning. The Philadelphia Inquirer got a hold of confidential financial statements of Donald's businesses. They showed Donald's holdings were only half of what he said they were. The banks pushed Donald to hire financial whiz, Stephen Bullenback, quote, Donald was broke. He was worse than broke. He was losing money every day and he was already hundreds of hundreds of millions of dollars in debt. The truth was he had been only a kind of paper millionaire to begin with. He owed lots more than he had and he was getting poor every day. Well, of course he was because he had loans from 150 banks. Of course he didn't have the fucking money to back it up. It was
Starting point is 00:35:10 all loans. Well, it's like you made off your business plan. Yeah. I mean, he may as well just stick to building pyramids at this point. But Bullenback realized being so overextended could actually help Donald. Many of the properties were worth more with Trump's name on them than without. So if you kicked Donald out of, say, a casino, his name gave it recognition and therefore brought him business. And without his name, not only were you kicking him out and repossessing the property, but it immediately dropped in value.
Starting point is 00:35:49 It is essentially the same plight that the workers had, which is like as much as you've been screwed over, how much do you want to lose over this? So, when an 800,000 insurance premium came due for his yacht, Bullenback reminded the bank that Donald still owed $115 million on the yacht. Since the bank owned the yacht, they'd be worse off if it sank, he told them. So the bank paid the insurance payment. The fucking welfare of the rich is astounding. The fucking socialism, they don't want to pass out money to everybody, but the fucking capitalist socialism sort of system that they live under is fucking horseshit to the supreme.
Starting point is 00:36:37 No. In a way, though, like you're alluding to, the whole thing is just if you're in the club, everything's different. And then if you're out, then you're a problem. Then once we get our shit right, then we're going to try to help you. In December 1990, a castle casino was headed toward missing a $18 million debt payment. So his dad, good old Fred C. Trump, sent an attorney down who bought $3.5 million in gambling chips and never used them. What does that do? That just gives the casino $3.5 million. Oh, right. Oh, my God. Boy, he's the ultimate cooler. This broke state law because casino loans must come from an approved financial source.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Trump's father was not an approved financial source. The casino was fined $65,000, not $3.5 million. Why the fuck wouldn't it be the same as the amount that you just fucking did? Pretty easy to figure out the fine. So basically you're saying, do it. Yeah. Do it. Yeah. For sure. It's just fucking... Well, I think this is the point that he made, like that he made throughout the campaign is essentially I was allowed to thrive under bullshit. That's right. So what do you want from me? Which is kind of a valid point in a way. I mean, it's like...
Starting point is 00:38:05 I agree. I agree with that. What do you want? But other people were allowed to thrive in this environment, and they did not do this shit. No. No, of course. There's always the first. The casinos were also investigated and fined for clearing the floor of black people and women when Lubudy was there. It's just... It's insane. I feel like Martin Scorsese is directing this episode. Again, they were fined. After digging further in November 1991, state regulators fined Donald's casinos again. This time for giving Lubudy nine luxury cars, three Ferraris, three Rolls-Royce Mercedes and two Bentley's, some
Starting point is 00:38:38 of which they actually sold and just gave them the money instead. Either way, it violated state law. It wasn't just Lubudy. Trump's castle said they were giving rebates for flights to high rollers, but some of those rebates were for $25,000, which was way more than a flight cost from the Philippines. I mean, I don't know. Have you been on Priceline? An expert called it, quote, quite startling. The casino was fined $176,000. My God. So why wouldn't you do it? I mean, truly. If the fine isn't much, much more than they made off of the deal, then it's not a fine. Then if you're in the business, then you do it.
Starting point is 00:39:20 The Trumps reached a divorce settlement in 1991. Ivana got their 45-room Greenwich, Connecticut mansion and apartment in Trump Plaza. And two dresses. Yeah. The use of Palm Beach property, Mar-a-Lago for one month every year, custody of their three children, alimony of $650,000 per year, and $14 million. So that prenup held up. Well, once you fuck someone, I think the prenup's kind of out the door. Well, how did they know? I mean, all he did was walk around and pretend it was his girlfriend show off a poster and then talk about it to everyone.
Starting point is 00:39:52 So his lawyer was like, you know, this is also public and everyone was on Ivana's side. Right. But he, you know, it was also like... Right, right, right. He's conceding a little there because of image. During the divorce proceedings, Ivana accused Donald of raping her in 1989. According to an author who got his hands on the sealed divorce proceedings, Donald was furious that a, quote, scalp reduction operation he'd undergone to hide a bald spot had been unexpectedly painful.
Starting point is 00:40:19 He was, he was shocked that it hurt to have his scalp reduced. Yes. Yeah, it's going to be, it's probably going to sting. So the idea is that you remove scalp and then you just sort of are like tightening around the bald. Well, I believe a scalp reduction is when you do an incision and then you just cut a bunch out and pull it together. Oh, lord. It hurt when he touched my brain with a scalpel.
Starting point is 00:40:43 Ivana had recommended the plastic surgeon. So in a fury, Donald yanked out a handful of Ivana's hair and then he raped her after she spent the night locked in a bedroom crying. In the morning, Donald asked her very casually, quote, does it hurt? Donald's divorce lawyer said, quote, you cannot rape your spouse. He later apologized. I mean, when your lawyer is saying that you're legally in the weeds. Yeah, it's not great. I mean, that's, that's like barbaric shit.
Starting point is 00:41:19 It's barbaric, but I don't, I should have looked this up, but I don't know what up until what year it was legal to rape your spouse. Like that's not, that's not something that was that long ago. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. After became public, Ivana clarified, right? So once this author breaks the story, Ivana clarifies what she had said in court. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:42 Oh, right, right. Okay. Quote, as a woman, I felt violated as the love and tenderness which he normally exhibited towards me was absent. I referred to this as rape, but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense. Anyway, that's still rape. Yeah. During the divorce proceedings, Donald invoked his fifth amendment right against self-incrimination approximately a hundred times.
Starting point is 00:42:06 Good Lord. When asked about adulterate relationships with women, a hundred times the fifth amendment in a divorce proceeding. We might see that record shattered. That same year, John O'Donnell, former president of Trump Plaza Hotel and Casino wrote a book about how Donald was a racist, cheap and incompetent businessman. He quoted Donald as saying about a black accountant, quote, black guy's counting my money. I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes
Starting point is 00:42:37 every day. Oh, my God. I think that the guy is lazy and it's probably not his fault because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is. I believe that. It's not anything they can control. In 1997, Donald would say, quote, the stuff that Donald wrote about me is probably true. Oh, my God. What? Then did not expect that. Jesus. Wow. Donald also revealed the now already known Donald business strategy. Donald made withholding
Starting point is 00:43:05 payment a part of his business strategy, quote, part of how he did business as a philosophy was to negotiate the best price he could. And then when it came time to pay the bills, Trump would say, I'm going to pay you, but I'm going to pay you 75 percent of what we agreed to. But he said at Trump Plaza, the executives would pay people in full, quote, it used to infuriate him. So he got... It's the model. He got angry when people were paid the price they agreed upon.
Starting point is 00:43:40 Also in 1991, a federal judge ruled that Donald had engaged in a conspiracy to violate a fiduciary duty to the Polish workers and their union that the breach involved fraud and the Trump defendants knowingly participated in this breach. The judge did not find Donald's testimony credible and set damages at $325,000. After all these years, the Polish immigrants case was settled by negotiation and the agreement was sealed. So that's what? 11 years later or something? Also, 11 years, a lawsuit, $325,000, that's almost all going to the lawyers.
Starting point is 00:44:21 The Taj Mahal finally shit the bed in 1991. Donald's corporation filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection from creditors of the Taj Mahal Casino Resort. Is there a Chapter 11 in Art of the Deal? There has to be. There's got to be a great one. Amazing. Now file for bankruptcy. This is the most important chapter in the book. First, don't pay. Second, say you're broke. The bankruptcy resulted in Donald giving up 50% of his ownership to bondholders in the
Starting point is 00:44:53 reconstruction deal. Trump faced about 900 million in personal liabilities. It's a lot, right? It doesn't feel small. Debt restriction went on for years. Creditors ended up writing off around $700 million. His fall was very public. Donald sold off the Trump shuttle, his Connecticut mansion, the Grand Hyatt Hotel, his yacht,
Starting point is 00:45:14 the Trump Princess, his Boeing 727. Leans were attached to everything he owned, and he was put on an allowance of $450,000 a month. Oh, boy. How is he going to live? Well, that's a nightmare. Yeah. Like now we have empathy for Donald Trump. Yeah, for sure. Well, you know that he's just squeaking by. Suddenly life was hard. One day boarding his helicopter, the airlift facility refused to
Starting point is 00:45:41 fuel the helicopter. One of the people in his party, getting on, used his own mobile card to charge $2,000 with gas. A mobile card? Could you imagine the nightmare of getting on your helicopter and not being able to pay for gas? Well, actually, it's funny, like a couple weeks ago when I was getting in one of my choppers. We didn't have any gas.
Starting point is 00:46:05 Jesus. I mean, it sounds like corny, but when you really do think of the alternative, it's like then you have to take a private jet, and that is like a drive because that doesn't take off from a launch point. Well, a plane is the same as a bus. I mean, I've always said that. I've always said that they're the same. That's what I used to say to my brother before I made him drink himself to death, allegedly. Marla said Donald and his entourage had to fly on commercial airlines.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Denterage, I like to call it. Quote, we had to wait about an hour in London for a flight right out there with all the other passengers. You'll get covered in scummy men. Well, you can imagine how that went over with Donald. Not well. Oh, I mean, what is he, common? Yeah. Well, the only good thing is he can probably assault someone on the plane again.
Starting point is 00:46:52 So there's a little, glasses half full. I'm going to grab so much pussy when I get on this plane. So he learned from that bankruptcy. He learned not to have a lot of personal liabilities in the business. He learned not to put his personal wealth at risk anymore and he reshuffled things. So when the Trump Castle Casino and Trump Plaza went bankrupt in 1992, no big deal. Right. That's the follow-up to Art of the Deal. Yes. The Plaza, which he had bought four years before and had Ivana running for a dollar,
Starting point is 00:47:20 was now millions in debt. Bankruptcy court allowed him to re-organize 55 million in debt and he gave up 49% to lenders but kept his job as chief executive. Again, the Trump name was seen as too important. Danny Luang had worked in illegal gambling dens in Toronto during the early 1980s with Eddie Louie, the brother of New York City's famous ghost shadow gang leader Nick Louie. There are pictures of Luang with Clifford Wong who was convicted of racketeering and murder as the leader of the Tong Ong gang and Herbert Louie who has been identified by the FBI as an organized crime leader. So Danny Luang has clear connections to Asian
Starting point is 00:48:10 organized crime in 1992, which was the year a Senate subcommittee named him as an associate of the 14K Triad. Sure. Also, at that time, he was vice president for foreign marketing at Taj Mahal. Okay. Okay. Somebody needs zip recruiter. The report read quote, Luang has given complimentary tickets for hotel rooms and Asian shows to numerous members and associates of Asian organized crime. In 1993, 14K Triad associate and Donald
Starting point is 00:48:51 Trump employee, Danny Luang, quote, flew in 16 Italian organized crime figures from Canada who stole more than one million from the Taj Mahal in a credit card scam. The incident was never reported because Trump never filed charges. Well, that's red flaggy. I wonder why. Right? Yeah. I mean, why do you... He's fairly litigious. So I don't know. I don't know why he gets a pass. Maybe it's
Starting point is 00:49:22 because the Canadian mob is so much nicer. The Canadian mob. I mean, they really do end every... They're so great. Yeah. They're just like, hey, give us some money, we're going to break your knees. I'm sorry. What? Yeah. I'm sorry?
Starting point is 00:49:35 I'm sorry. In December 1992, Donald spotted a youth choir singing Christmas carols at the Plaza Hotel in Manhattan. He asked the two girls how old they were. They said they were 14. Donald, who was 46, said, quote, wow, just think in a couple of years, I'll be dating you. Why are you rocking? I don't like it. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:50:08 He belongs in ancient Greece. Yeah, it's really... He's a Roman. Marla and Donald had a daughter, Tiffany Trump, in 1993. They got married two months later. There were 1,000 guests, including Rosie O'Donnell and O.J. Simpson. In September 1994, Donald and Marla were on lifestyles of the rich and famous. Host Robin Leach asked Donald what Tiffany had of his and what she had of Marla's. Let me do it.
Starting point is 00:50:35 And what does she... What does Tiffany have of yours and what does she have of Marla's? Donald, quote, she's a very beautiful baby. She's got Marla's legs. Oh, my God. We don't know whether or not he puts his hands to his chest to indicate breasts. She's got this part yet, but time will tell. Oh, okay. So we've... Okay. So now we're in a really weird place.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Like it's perverse... So sexualizing babies is weird to you. It's perverse to... It's perverse to hit on 14-year-old female carolers, but when you're talking about how the excitement you have to see how your daughter's breasts form when she's a baby, it's... I'm going to go on record, Dave. It's not okay. How is your baby? I just keep looking at her and thinking, the tits are going to be on this thing. The tits?
Starting point is 00:51:33 She's got a mother's legs, my brains. You know, for a six-month-old, she's pretty flat-chested. I'm very disappointed in that. I never thought I'd say this, but I'm going to say it. My baby's got a pussy. It won't quit. Okay. We've actually talked to a doctor who's going to augment Tiffany's breasts when she turns one, and we won't do anything absurd. Obviously, we'll go with C cups, a light C for now. The other thing to story about my buddy, John Levinstein, he somehow pieced together that
Starting point is 00:52:06 Trump didn't follow Tiffany on Twitter. I don't even know how he did it, but he just figured it out. He started tweeting at Trump nonstop, like, follow your daughter, shitbag, follow your daughter, and then eventually he did. Because he reads everything. Well, he didn't. He sends all of his kids a social network or whatever, some sort of social media, a happy birthday, but he doesn't do it for Tiffany. What? What's going on? I don't know. Is she purebred or whatever?
Starting point is 00:52:43 Oh, God. Okay. So in 1993, Donald went on Dom Imus' radio show. Imus asked about plans by, quote, a bunch of these drunken engines to open a casino in New Jersey. Good premise. This would be competition for Donald's casinos. Donald responded, quote, a lot of these reservations are being, in some people's opinion, at least to a certain extent, run by organized crime and organized crime elements. There's no protection. There's no anything, and it's become a joke. And then he questioned the legitimacy of tribe members, quote, I think I might have more
Starting point is 00:53:28 Indian blood than a lot of the so-called... What is he talking about? Indians that are trying to open up the reservations. What is he allegedly talking about? Truly. This is something, like, it's so... This is why it's weird to hear, because it is... It's just weird to see where it's gotten to now. Yeah. Like, when you're just like, like, did you collude with the Russians? Why is everyone asking if I colluded with the Russians? Investigate Hillary. She colluded with the Russians. I'm
Starting point is 00:53:58 Hillary. It's like, what the fuck are you saying? Well, it's all the same, though. Yes, it is, but it's like interesting to hear where the seeds of this, you know, the seeds that brought us this fruit. It's the same with the one difference that he's being investigated and cornered by everybody. Whereas before, it was all skating. Right. Now, he's a man being put in a corner and poked and poked and poked.
Starting point is 00:54:28 That's the difference. So... Something tells me he won't remember. At the time he said this, Donald was trying to partner with the tribe near Palm Springs to manage the tribe's proposed casino, and he did not get the deal. That's weird. I can't believe he didn't get the deal. But it is also just real quick. It's also amazing for somebody who preaches about, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:50 to some extent the purity of being white and like the importance of that. Then when he has to defend himself, he's like, I'm Native American. It's like, what are you? Well, so now, now, okay, we'll get to that in a sec. So later that year, Donald testified about the Indian Gaming Regulatory Act, which is, you know, they're going to open up reservations to gaming. Yes. So he's before the U.S. House Committee, the Representatives Committee on Natural Resources.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Who would you rather have than Donald Trump at this time? Absolutely. Absolutely. He told lawmakers that organized crime, quote, is rampant. I don't mean a little bit. It's rampant on Indian reservations, one of the biggest scandals since Al Capone. They said a federally recognized Connecticut tribe, I'm going to fuck this, the Mashinatucket Pequots did not look like real Indians.
Starting point is 00:55:43 What is he saying? What the fuck? How is, what the fuck? Have you seen like movies from the 50s? Yeah. Okay. So that's what we're talking about. Right. Okay. So they don't look like real Indians. No, they don't.
Starting point is 00:55:59 No, when I saw them in movies, when I was a youth, they were also white, kind of. So I'll tell you what, if you look, if you look at some of the reservations that you have approved, they don't look like Indians to me and they don't look like Indians to Indians. And a lot of people are laughing at it. And you are, and you are telling how tough it is, how rough it is to get approved. Well, you go up to Connecticut and you look, now they don't look like Indians to me. Okay. I'll tell you what's great is having Aaron here for this, because it is just nice
Starting point is 00:56:35 to see another guy get beaten down by this a little bit. So, well, we'll get to it because they all have a backlash, but in 2004, Trump managed to clear bankruptcy for more than a decade with the chapter led in 2004. Trump hotels and casino resorts, a holding company for the Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and a Gary, Indiana riverboat casino. Gareth. Sorry. Venture.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Who wouldn't want a riverboat casino in Gary, Indiana? I just can't think of a better location. No, for sure. Well, if you go to Gary, it's poppin'. So this went public and raised $130 million. Nine years later, the entity bought Trump Marina and Trump Taj Mahal in Atlantic City. So the Trump 29 casino in California, so he's got a bunch of shit under this one umbrella. It's got a 1.8 billion in debt.
Starting point is 00:57:34 So they filed for bankruptcy in 2004, right? They go through a restructuring plan. His stake is reduced to 27% from 47%. The debt's cut by 500 million, blah, blah, blah, all that shit. Now, this is where it gets crazy, so I'm just going to jump forward to his next. So the third bankruptcy, he was so not giving a shit about bankruptcies at this point that right around this time, he did an interview and said he was bigger than Pepsi. That's what controversial is when Lenin said they're bigger than Jesus.
Starting point is 00:58:14 But he was so like, who gives a... There are no rules. If you're super wealthy, it just doesn't fucking matter. And he's learned that. And he, at this point, has very well learned it. Now I'm going to jump ahead to 2009, if I can find this really, because I did not put in the story, but there's another point where they declare bankruptcy, and here it is. So December 2008, Trump Entertainment Resorts filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy just days
Starting point is 00:58:46 before the filing. Trump and his daughter Ivanka resigned from the company's board, and he's quick to distance himself from the organization, other than the fact that it has my name on it, which I'm not thrilled about. You know him, he won't put his name on a lump of shit. I have nothing to do with the company. Good God. And then, I believe it was two weeks later after the...
Starting point is 00:59:11 I might be wrong about that, but I believe it was two weeks later after everything was sealed that him and Ivanka jumped back on them. Oh, wow. Board. Wow. Okay. So that's the bankruptcies. I just want to get through those, because I can't fucking handle it.
Starting point is 00:59:25 So the winner of 1995, Mar-a-Lago, was converted into a new commercial venture. One wing housed Donald and his family, and the other wing was now a private club with an entropy of 200,000 plus 14,000 year dues. Okay. So during the opening, Donald took a reporter on a tour as he walked around the Clay tennis courts, which were ready for scheduled matches. Quote, Trump took exception to the design of the spaces between courts. In particular, he didn't like a small metal box, a pump and a cooler for the water fountain
Starting point is 00:59:59 alongside, which he thought looked ugly. He first questioned its placement and then crudely disparaged it, then kicked the box, which didn't budge. Then he stooped, red-faced and fuming, to tear it loose from its moorings, rupturing a waterline and sending a geyser up into the air, soaking the courts. No, I'm not a tennis wizard, Dave, but I believe that water on clay is not good. I don't think you want to water the clay. I guess you just turned it into outdoor pottery.
Starting point is 01:00:33 I mean... Oh, just the image of a... I mean, just like you can't destroy a box and then you do and it just forms a fucking geyser. Then he just blames somebody? Why is it fucking ugly? Yeah, it's not my fault, allegedly. Donald Trump bought the Miss Universe pageant in 1996, which included Miss USA and Miss Teen USA pageants.
Starting point is 01:00:53 He told Howard Stern the pageant was, quote, a sick puppy. The hotness of contestants had seriously gone downhill because the judges had started placing a greater emphasis on brains over beauty. Quote, they had a person that was extremely proud that a number of the women had become doctors. I was not interested. Boy, we really need to... I don't know. For years.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Okay, good. What's happening now doesn't matter. Just focus on the past. Okay. No, I'm not even. It's just that the idea that statements like that... It just is crazy to me that statements like that at one time were like, that was okay to say. It just makes you wonder where we actually are now.
Starting point is 01:01:40 It wasn't okay to say that. It wasn't? I don't think it was okay to say that. But he said it. No, no, no. I think that he got heaps of shit for that. He did? Not like he would now, but I think he...
Starting point is 01:01:48 Okay. Okay. For years, he would enjoy the role of owner of the pageants. He explained he was allowed to go backstage where no other men could be to inspect. Quote, I'm allowed to go in because I'm the owner of the pageant and they're for inspecting it. You know, they're standing there with no clothes and you see these incredible looking women and so I sort of get away with things like that.
Starting point is 01:02:09 Miss Utah of the Miss Teen USA pageant said Trump kissed her against her wishes in 1997. That same year, the reigning Miss Universe said Donald asked her about his daughter Ivanka. Quote, don't you think my daughter's hot? She's so hot, right? At the time, Ivanka Trump was 16 years old. No. No. I mean, I even know this shit.
Starting point is 01:02:37 It's just crazy. In 1996, stockholders of Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts agreed to buy the Castle Casino, the worst of the Atlantic City casinos, for $985.7 million. That meant stockholders assumed $354 million debt and Donald paid, was paid $130 million in stock. So he fucking makes money. Yet he still remained chairman of the company and owned 25% of its stock. Donald managed to never declare personal bankruptcy.
Starting point is 01:03:09 At 4 a.m. on April 16, 1996, a cop was patrolling a beach near Mar-a-Lago and found one of Donald's bodyguards named Wagner, quote, hiding under a lifeguard stand. It's a normal thing. Wagner said he was there alone until Mar-la-Maple's also came out from underneath the lifeguards. Oh, wow. She was wearing tight black spandex leggings and a skimpy jogging top. So that seems like there's other stuff missing, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:43 Oh, no. Are leggings... Leggings or pants? They're pants? Yeah. I was thinking of the 80s legging things. Do you remember those? No, what are those?
Starting point is 01:03:51 We'll talk about it later. I don't want to talk about it later. I haven't. Certainly I'm not going to talk to you about that. It's gonna get hot. It will not happen. So she comes out wearing that. At first they said Mar-la was just going to the bathroom, but then that doesn't make sense
Starting point is 01:04:06 because it's like, well, why are you in there? And why are you saying there was no one here? She's going to the bathroom. Also, I'm alone. Wait. So I... Yeah, I was watching her pee. Like...
Starting point is 01:04:16 Yeah, no. There's no... No. Once you say you're alone and someone's there and then she's going to the bathroom, it's just not working. It's all wrong. None of it's happening. Hi.
Starting point is 01:04:24 Welcome to Worst Lies. Yay. So, obviously... I'm a lifeguard and she was drowning from piss. And so... Yeah. So obviously this is something that is then reported because he's a cop and it goes in the paper.
Starting point is 01:04:39 Now the papers pick up, up on it, it's fucking crazy rumors. They're both denying it. Four months later, the bodyguard is fired and he's worked for Trump forever. And after that, he changed his story, quote, our passion boiled over and we made love. So, finally, a hero. But Donald still enjoyed his vacations tomorrow lago. In 1997, Donald watched a favorite movie, Bloodsport, starring Jean-Claude Van Damme. During it, he had his 13-year-old son, Eric, fast forward through all the plot exposition.
Starting point is 01:05:14 Well, okay. Listen. All right. Now, we can... We can disparage the man as much as we want, but Bloodsport has a... You don't need the plot, okay? Let's be honest. It's really just...
Starting point is 01:05:29 You don't even need the first half, honestly. You just... It's just so, it's just so basic. It's certainly the order that a 13-year-old makes to his father, not vice versa. It's not often where the dad's like, no, no, no, just a frosting, son, just a frosting. Quote, to get this two-hour movie down to 45 minutes. It wasn't all fun. Like the night in 1997, when Jill Hearth accused him of trying to rape her at Mar-a-Lago.
Starting point is 01:06:00 She sued in 1997, saying Donald violated her physical and mental integrity when he touched her intimately without consent. Her and her husband were trying to make a deal with Donald about a beauty pageant, and Donald repeatedly propositioned her for sex. So the first time they met, they meet in Trump's office at the Trump Tower, and the guy is giving a pitch, and Donald is just staring at the woman, Hearth, I think her name is, staring at her. And in the middle of the guy's pitch, Donald says, you fucking her?
Starting point is 01:06:34 Like it's not human. It's not a human behavior. Everything is a commodity. Everything is to be used and spit out. There are no human beings, allegedly, allegedly. So he forcefully removed the Hearth from the public areas into Ivanka's bedroom. Oh, God, can he make one normal decision in this? There he forcefully kissed Ronald and restrained her against her will despite her protests.
Starting point is 01:07:10 Donald said he, quote, would be the best lover you ever have. Look at this paper I have. Look at what Marla said 10 years ago. I believe this was broken up by... There were so many. I didn't put them all in, but this one might've been the one that was broken up by a butler came in. Anyway, he wasn't able to go all of it. The husband sued over a business thing, and the settlement was that she would drop her
Starting point is 01:07:34 suit and they got money. So whatever. Yeah, it's all bad. Anyway, it's again one of those things. You just want to get away. You just want to get away from him, of course. Right? I mean, that's the move.
Starting point is 01:07:45 Melania, I don't know, Sarah last name, grew up in Slovenia. She became a model in Paris and Milan. There she met a friend of Donald's and co-owner of Metropolitan models. He moved Melania to New York City. She didn't socialize much. If she went out, it just seemed to be with older men for dinner. She was not getting top tier modeling work and asked a photographer help. He didn't think she'd have a good career because, quote, she was always kind of a stiff person.
Starting point is 01:08:16 In September 1998, Donald was at a party with a date. When his date went to the bathroom, he asked Melania for her number. Soon they were dating. In 1999, Donald put Melania on the phone with Howard Stern so she could tell him they were having sex more than daily, which doesn't make sense. No. I mean, either you're doing it daily, or you're not like, there's not in between days. No.
Starting point is 01:08:38 We actually, to be honest, Howard, I'm fucking her so much that we invented a day between Wednesday and Thursday. It's called Thursday. Marla and Donald divorced in 1999. She moved to California with their daughter, Tiffany. This is a bad month for Donald. Fred, who had been suffering from Alzheimer's disease for six years, came down with pneumonia in June 1999.
Starting point is 01:08:57 He was admitted to a hospital in New Hyde Park where he died at age 93 a few weeks later. Donald's mom would die the next summer. In 2000, New York was considering expanding Native American casinos in the Catskill Mountains. A group called the Institute for Law and Safety funded TV, newspaper, and radio ads accusing the Mohawk tribe of having long criminal records and ties to the mob. What is the name of the organization that's at that? The Institute for Law and Safety. Another thing that is so annoying about the way that people poison the well against people
Starting point is 01:09:33 is the name that they're allowed to give. That's right. It should be an organization that goes over names and you should have to. Absolutely. It has to associate with what your practice is. 100%. So one ad showed pictures of cocaine lines and syringes and asked, are these the new neighbors we want?
Starting point is 01:09:53 What are you talking about? Another ad warned that casino gambling would bring increased crime, broken families, bankruptcies, and in the case of the Mohawks, violence. That's what would happen if Trump became a Native American. That would be... That is the fear then. The Institute said it was funded by 12,000 grassroots pro-family donors. Turns out it was bankrolled by Donald's casino company. Weird.
Starting point is 01:10:19 And he paid private investigators to dig up dirt on the Mohawks. After an investigation, could you imagine being such a fucking monster that you're digging up dirt on a people we committed genocide against? I mean, genocide, yes, and then never ever said... I mean, there's no uncle. After an investigation into the ads, the state lobbying commission imposed its largest fine ever, $250,000 against Donald Trump. He agreed to pay more than $30,000 to run an ad apology statement in Albany News outlets, which turned out to be very, very vague when they finally ran.
Starting point is 01:10:54 Now, at the same time this was happening, Donald made a deal with the Pockatuck Indians in Connecticut, a tribe that was not recognized by the federal government. The deal was Donald would pay for documenting the tribe's lineage so it could get federal approval to operate a casino, and he'd get to run the casino. The tribe won recognition in 2002, but the Bureau of Indian Affairs ruled that that tribe was part of another Connecticut tribe, the Eastern Pequas. So the Eastern Pequas already had their own plans for a casino. The combined tribal leadership voted to go with another developer, and Donald sued the
Starting point is 01:11:28 tribe, and they reached an out-of-court settlement that involved no payments to Donald Trump. Now, let's back up, or go forward, sorry, to him calling Elizabeth Warren, Pocahontas. All of his shit is fucking tied up in personal fucking anger and vendettas. This is all really, every time his fucking wrath and vengeance comes out about Elizabeth Warren, this is, it's this, it's coming from this fucking base where he didn't get what he wanted. Well, no, truly, truly when he says, I mean, yes, he has somehow turned Pocahontas into a negative.
Starting point is 01:12:05 Yeah. So in 2002, after the Central Park Five had served seven years in prison, a serial rapist in murder who was already serving life confessed to the rape. Oh. DNA evidence proved it was him. Well. The convictions of the Central Park Five were vacated. Okay.
Starting point is 01:12:23 So we have a conclusive DNA proof, continue with the apology. Protests were held outside of Trump Tire with people chanting, Trump is a chump. He did not say anything. How about fuck your scalp? In 2003, the Howard Stern Show, on the Howard Stern Show, Donald said, quote, you know who's one of the great beauties of the world, according to everybody, and I helped creator Ivanka, my daughter. She's six feet tall.
Starting point is 01:12:48 She's got the best body. Oh, God, almighty. Donald's takeaway from all of his financial setback was to change. He does want to banger. Yes, he does. Allegedly. Allegedly. Donald's takeaway from all of his financial setbacks was to change his business strategy
Starting point is 01:13:04 from borrowing to build and buying assets to just licensing his name. Right. Around this time, it was approached by Mark Burnett about doing a new reality show called The Apprentice. It shows a competition between contestants to find the ultimate talent to head one of his companies. This once again, elevated Donald in the eyes of Americans, along with his catchphrase, you're fired.
Starting point is 01:13:26 His name became more popular, and therefore his ability to license his name became more lucrative. Right. So, yeah. So, at this point, I mean, it's essentially, he's a merchandiser. Basically. Around this time, the Department of Labor cited two Trump businesses 24 times for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage.
Starting point is 01:13:46 In 2005, Natasha Stoyanov said she was at Mar-a-Lago to interview Donald. Well, I think we've heard this story before, Dave. How does it go? For Trump Magazine, Donald showed her around, quote, we walked into that room alone and Trump shut the door behind us. I turned around and within seconds, he was pushing me against the wall and forcing his tongue down my throat. I was stunned.
Starting point is 01:14:06 And I was grateful when Trump's longtime butler, oh, that's what happened that time, burst into the room a minute later. Because I tried to unpin myself, Donald told her, quote, you know you're going to have an affair. You know we're going to have an affair, don't you? They did not. Within days of the incident, Stoyanov had told at least five business associates and friends.
Starting point is 01:14:26 Okay. So, again, if someone lied during the campaign, why did they keep telling people years before that it happened? Right after the incident. Yeah. Anywho. In 2005, Donald publicly pitched a season of The Apprentice that would have made his father proud.
Starting point is 01:14:44 He said he wasn't particularly happy with the previous season of the show, so he was considering, quote, an idea that's fairly controversial, creating a team of successful African-Americans versus a team of successful whites. Oh, my Jesus Christ, wow, wow. What year? This is 2005. Oh, my God, what? Can you imagine?
Starting point is 01:15:11 Like, how do you... Oh, go ahead. But I mean, when you hear that pitch, how do you react like it's not crazy? How do you go, yeah, you know, I just... But it's not crazy if you believe in eugenics. Yes. Yes, of course. It makes very much sense.
Starting point is 01:15:25 It makes a lot of sense if you believe in eugenics, for sure. Whether people like that idea or not, and this is still his quote, whether people like that idea or not, it is somewhat reflective of our very vicious world. Where blacks are pitted against whites. Yeah, I mean, what is he talking about? Haven't you seen the battle royales between blacks and whites that happen everywhere? Oh, my God. Ugh.
Starting point is 01:15:48 Now, of course, if you know about reality shows, you know they are fixed, and you know that this would have been a eugenics jerk-off session. Licensing his name is what led to Trump University and Trump Institute, an insane bullshit pretend schools that had nothing to do with Trump except his name. The Institute was run by a couple who had been marketing get-rich-quick courses since the 80s and skipping town with cash. They used to run full-page newspaper ads that screamed, free money. Well, I mean, good Lord.
Starting point is 01:16:18 They've been doing it for decades. 33 state attorneys signed a letter accusing them of deceptive trade practices. So this is what you should go into business with. People were told they'd be getting Donald and his know-how. The materials had just been lifted straight from a publisher called Success Magazine of a how-to guide they printed called Real Estate Mystery System. The woman who edited the book said she'd never met Donald Trump or anyone else, but it just answered an ad on Craigslist.
Starting point is 01:16:54 God damn. Trump University pitched itself as Donald sharing his knowledge and said he handpicked the instructors, but in truth, he had nothing to do with it. Anyone who went to the three-day seminar was told it wasn't enough time and they needed to sign up for a mentorship program for $35,000. It focused on the elderly, the poor, and those with disabilities. The scam went on for years. So people would come to this course that was shit, be $1,500, and then the salespeople
Starting point is 01:17:26 would come in and it was that fucking hard sell, car salesmanship. You step in, I step out, like that whole fucking game to build people out of $35,000. So you're going to pyramid you. Melania and Donald married in 2005 at a million-dollar wedding at Mar-a-Lago. There were 350 guests, including Bill and Hillary Clinton, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Rudy Giuliani, George Pataki, Chris Christie, Derek Jeter, Russell Simmons, Matt Lauer, Katie Couric, and Chris Matthew. Russell Simmons.
Starting point is 01:18:05 Six months later, Melania was pregnant with her son, Baron. Donald agreed to having the baby on the condition that Melania would get her body back. Russell Simmons. All right. All right. So Donald said on The View, when discussing whether Ivanka would pose for Playboy, quote, don't, although she does have a nice figure, I've said that if Ivanka weren't my daughter, perhaps I'd be dating her.
Starting point is 01:18:33 Oh, God. She was sitting next to him at the time. Oh, my God, oh, my God. On Larry King the same year, Larry asked if Ivanka had gotten breast implants. Okay. So, Larry King. So let's fucking hold the fuck on. Larry King asks another adult male who are both old as fuck if his daughter has fake
Starting point is 01:18:56 tits. Like, what in the fuck is happening on your crazy show? He was on a news channel. Not only is it on a fucking channel, I wouldn't say that to a human in the real world. Like, where do you say that? Donald, let's get down to brass tacks. Ivanka's rack embellished a reel. Trump said no.
Starting point is 01:19:17 If she had, he would know, quote, she's actually very voluptuous. She's tall, almost six feet tall. She's an amazing beauty. Wow. In 2007. In some way, when he was saying this stuff about his dad having the five kids and he wanted to have five kids, so he had one of him, in a way, she's the one of him, but it's all superficial shit.
Starting point is 01:19:39 It's all looks and all... Yeah, she's him. Right, she's him. She's the winner. She's the winner. She won. Right. I mean, he wants to fuck himself.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Yeah. Like, he loves him. Well, and he also... So, she's an extension of him. He can't disassociate her from him. They're one. But he also knows no boundaries. He has no boundaries whatsoever.
Starting point is 01:19:59 So, it's just like, since you've never been told no, you've never been punished for shit, at this point, you're like, I mean, look, I wish I was single so I could get inside of Anki. And she's so indoctrinated into the madness that she just sits there and laughs and goes, oh, dad, not realizing the psychological damage that's been done to her is fucking mind-bending. Yeah, allegedly. Allegedly. In 2007, realty agent Jennifer McGovern filed a lawsuit against Trump Mortgage saying she
Starting point is 01:20:28 had not been paid a six-figure commission on real estate sales. A judge ordered Trump Mortgage to pay her $298,000. In 2009, John Gevolta and Kelly Preston's 16-year-old son, Jett, died due to a seizure. Four days later, Donald wrote an open letter on the Trump University website titled Loyalty and Kelly Preston. Quote, a long time ago, I met Kelly Preston at a club and worked like hell to try and pick up on her. Did I mention this is four days after her son died?
Starting point is 01:20:58 Okay, let's go back. A long time ago, I met Kelly Preston at a club and worked like hell to try and pick up on her. My track record on this subject has always been outstanding. But Kelly wouldn't give me the time of day. Some people have values that matter to them, and she is one of them. I'm sure she was a wonderful mother to Jett, and my thoughts are with her and her family after their terrible loss.
Starting point is 01:21:26 How do you turn a death, a death of a child into like- Bragging about fucking. Look, I fucked a lot of people. Not Kelly. RIP, Jett. Look, when I try to fuck, most of the time I'm fucking. Like, before I even say I want to fuck you, I'm usually inside of people. Anyway, I'm sorry about the death of your boy.
Starting point is 01:21:49 You don't need context to tell someone you're grieving for them. No, actually, you don't. But when you're publicly- and I do get annoyed at times when someone does die and you- instead of saying something kind, people will be like, you know, I saw David Bowie on a plane once. And he was really- but the idea that you not only are going to humble brag about yourself, but that you're going to turn it into about yourself, fucking. And then be like, condolences. Condolences.
Starting point is 01:22:23 Anyway, that was normal. He won the presidency, right? That was normal, no. New York City law firm Morrison Cohen found out that Donald didn't like that they were using his name in press releases, touting their representation of Donald in a lawsuit against a construction contractor that he didn't want to pay. So he's hired a law firm to not pay- Not pay people that he owes money to. Money to.
Starting point is 01:22:51 He gets upset when they start saying that they're doing that for him. Right. Right. And he- Well, it shows you- He sues them. Oh, my God. He sues them?
Starting point is 01:23:05 It also turns out that he hadn't paid them a half million dollars in legal fees. Jesus Christ. So the law firm that he is hired to stop paying people, he is not paying. And then he sues them when they talk about it. They settle that a court. The terms are confidential. In 2010, Donald repeated in a CNN interview, his father's eugenics beliefs on human reproduction. Quote, well, I think I was born with the drive for success because I have a certain gene.
Starting point is 01:23:37 I'm a gene believer. Hey, when you connect two race horses, you usually end up with a fast horse, said Adolf Hitler. I had a good gene pool from the standpoint of that, so I was pretty much driven. So in 2010, Donald Trump's beliefs seem to be eugenics. When you connect two race horses, you usually end up with a fast horse. That's what that is in 2010. In 2011, according to staff on Celebrity Apprentice, Donald would often equate Marley
Starting point is 01:24:14 Matlin's deafness with being, quote, mentally retarded. Quote, Trump would often scribble down notes while sitting at the table of the boardroom that shows primary set. A person familiar with the notes who helped clean up after tapings said that on one of the pieces of paper, Trump wrote, quote, Marley. Is she retarded? Question mark, question mark. This is, again, I brought this up at this time for a reason.
Starting point is 01:24:42 That's fucking eugenics. That's eugenics shit. That's what, she's deaf, so she can't mentally be all there, right? Well, yes, for sure. Completely insensitive. Ridiculous. It's not insensitive, it's deeper than that. But the, it's also stupid.
Starting point is 01:25:01 That's what we used to do with fucking people who were deaf. We'd put them in fucking boxes and say, that's your life. But also, it shows a lot that he's writing notes for someone who can't hear. No, he didn't write it for her. He wrote it for someone. No, but he wrote, he's writing it. No, no, he wrote it as a question to a producer. That's what I mean.
Starting point is 01:25:19 Why couldn't he just put his hand over his mouth and just be like, you know what I mean? Well, she can read. I'm sure she can read this. But that's why you put your hand over your mouth. I'm just saying, as far as a paper, like, he apparently was very brutal to her face as well. By the way, can I say something? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:34 I dressed up like Spider-Man for her children's birthday party. Very nicely. Lovely. Yeah. Married to a police officer. $20 tip if memory serves. Starting in 2011, Donald got on the Obama Doesn't Have a Burst Certificate train and took it past the last stop.
Starting point is 01:25:47 His attacks on Obama were relentless and often without basis or tethered to reality. In 2011, Donald was invited to the White House Correspondents' Dinner, where he received a brutal and public roasting by President Barack Obama. This was followed by host Seth Meyers roasting Donald for a few more minutes. It was obvious that Donald did not enjoy the jokes. Many consider that to be the moment he decided he would seriously run for president. Do you think if Obama could go back and change one thing, it would be that? Yes.
Starting point is 01:26:15 The bodyguard who had sex with Marla never recovered from the scandal got hooked on drugs and OD'd in 2012. His wife said he never recovered from the scandal, stopped being hired, and slowly fell apart. In 2012, a law firm of Cook, Hayward, Lee Hopper, and Feehan filed a lawsuit against the Trump Organization for $94,000 for legal fees and costs that had not been paid. On several occasions, Donald's own attorneys, who would have negotiated with companies that had not been paid, were then, in turn, not paid and had to sue him. It's not just that one law firm.
Starting point is 01:26:48 It's a repeating pattern. Yeah. He really does have a pyramid scheme of... Yeah. Just don't pay people. Right. Or a Ponzi scheme, essentially. In 2013, real estate broker Rena Williams, who sold hundreds of millions in Manhattan
Starting point is 01:26:59 property for Trump International Realty over two decades, sued because Donald shorted her $735,000 in commissions on deals from 2009 to 2012. Adam said Donald decided to pay her less than her contracted commission rate, quote, based on nothing more than whimsy. They settled the case in 2015. As usual, the terms of the deal are confidential. Also in 2013, small business owner Juan Carlos Enriquez of Florida led a job as a subcontractor on a $200 million remodeling of the Trump National Dural Golf Course Resort.
Starting point is 01:27:34 Right. Enriquez bought and delivered paint to the site. All he did was buy paint in bulk and deliver it to the site. That was his job. Pretty straightforward. That is what he did. Right. Hard to have notes.
Starting point is 01:27:47 The first installments were paid, but the final payment of $32,000 was never paid. So Enriquez filed a lien. Enriquez offered to settle for $26,000. Donald refused. After a few months, Enriquez filed a lawsuit, quote, we sat down for the deposition. His lawyers tried to intimidate me and said, if I lost, I would have to pay their fees. Like most, with so much to lose, Enriquez did not back down. And he continued the lawsuit.
Starting point is 01:28:13 In 2014, the city of New York settled with the Central Park Five, $41 million. It was a 14-year court battle. Good Lord. Donald Trump was furious. Nothing to do with him. In an opinion piece for the New York Daily News, well, it does, but it doesn't, right? He put his word down. For sure.
Starting point is 01:28:35 That's what I mean. But in reality, nothing. From the beginning, it just has nothing to do with it. But yeah, exactly. Now he's like, he's digging his heels in. In an open opinion piece for the New York Daily News, he described the case as, quote, the heist of the century. Settling doesn't mean innocence, but it indicates incompetence on several levels.
Starting point is 01:28:53 Donald wrote an editorial that said, quote, these young men do not exactly have the pass of angels, which was weird because none of them had ever been arrested before. So they actually had the pass of angels. Yep. In 2016, the Washington Post columnist, Richard Cohen, wrote an early draft of his column, quote, this didn't go out, wasn't published. It's internal, but it's going out to different locations, quote, can I ask you something? Trump asked someone I know about his then 13-year-old kid.
Starting point is 01:29:29 Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife? Oh my God, these sentences were then removed from later versions of the column before it was released. Oh my God. The Juan Carlos Enriquez, I've never been paid for the paint that I brought to Doral, lawsuit went on. A Florida judge ruled in the spring of 2016 that Donald's resort had to pay for the paint. And then he said, Donald would have to pay for Enriquez's lawyer, which brought the
Starting point is 01:30:00 total to $283,949,000. Called a paintment. The Trump Organization appealed. If Enriquez lost the appeal, he would now have to declare bankruptcy. So it's gone from being a $32,000, which is exactly why people don't go for their money. Because if you go for the money you are owed, you may end up being financially distraught. You don't just lose the money you're owed, you are financially destroyed. The fuck is the system is fucking bullshit, and capitalism is a fucking rape palace.
Starting point is 01:30:34 Like it is just unconscionable what we do to people. Set up so that you can't win. Or if you do. Set up so the rich can do whatever in the fuck they want to you. I mean, that's what this is. The system is a fucking shit basket. Put that on a fucking bumper sticker. Settle down, bud, come on.
Starting point is 01:30:55 Donald. I would love to hold back and negotiate when people don't do good work if they do a good job. I won't cut them at all. So if they don't do a good job, he doesn't pay them. Of course, that doesn't even matter. That's not how it works. This is the family business.
Starting point is 01:31:09 Ivanka Trump, quote, we have hundreds of millions of dollars of construction projects underway. And we have, for the most part, exceptional contractors who get paid. But it would be irresponsible if my father paid contractors who did lousy work. And he doesn't do that, but he does offer to hire them again. You know what? Fuck you. It's a fucking pattern. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:30 And also, of course, he hires them again. People who are just like, yeah, you don't have to pay me the last payment and I'll come back. That's not like a benefit. It's just so amazing. But she's also so indoctrinated. Yeah. But do you remember when everyone was like, Ivanka will save us?
Starting point is 01:31:42 Ivanka will save us. Ivanka is a fucking monster. Oh, God. Yeah. During that time, there was an election. Donald announced he was running for president on June 16th, 2015, quote, when Mexico sent its people, they're not sending the best, they're sending you, they're sending people that have lots of problems.
Starting point is 01:31:59 And they're bringing those problems. They're bringing drugs, they're bringing crime, they're rapists. And some I said were good people. During the presidential debate, Donald said, quote, I take advantage of the laws of the nation because I'm running a company. My obligation right now is to do well for myself, my family, my employees, my companies. And that's what I do. Let's say they do a job.
Starting point is 01:32:22 That's not good, or a job that they didn't finish, or a job that was way late. I'll deduct from their contract, absolutely. That's what the country should be doing. So the problem with that is, if you're making money, then it behooves you to say someone's not doing a good job. Like if you can make money by doing that, then why wouldn't you do that? That's the problem with whatever system we have. It also is like a lot of the people who are hurting and trying to get by are the same people
Starting point is 01:32:57 who would depend on a situation where no matter what the work is, a deal is a deal. And they are unable to afford to fight it if they're not paid. Yeah, it's almost like a lot of people voted for him or the same people that he fucks over. It kind of makes you wish that out of Paris worked out. Because then you'd just be like a Broadway producer. Over his career, Donald Trump has gotten at least $885 million in tax breaks from New York City. A welfare queen, I think they call that.
Starting point is 01:33:32 Juan Carlos Enriquez, after spending three years suing Donald Trump for paint he simply paid for and delivered, voted for Donald Trump. Oh God, no, what? Raising his immigration policies and no nonsense style. Donald Trump was elected president on November 8, 2016. Just a couple months later, the court ruled against Donald Trump's appeal and he was ordered to pay Juan Carlos Enriquez around $300,000. So that's America.
Starting point is 01:34:08 Look at Aaron. Look at Aaron. I broke him. You broke Aaron. How are you doing, bud? Okay. Was it worse than you imagined? It was a better... It was exactly what I expected until the very end, I think.
Starting point is 01:34:30 No, the guy voting for... Oh my God, that's a kick. I think the truth is that it is like... I've heard a lot of this just in a vacuum of conversation that you hear because now news is so... There's so much coming at you so often, you already can't absorb it and in a way what he's done is he's overloaded the system with information. There's just too much that's so crazy that it's impossible to focus on it. If we truly just focus... If we could just hone in on say the sexual assault he's committed and you just stuck to that, potentially that could get legs and that could actually start to become something that could hurt him or the idea that he's... His business practices,
Starting point is 01:35:21 the problem is it's almost like a mighty morphine power ranger of all this different bullshit formed into one big fucking monster. Yeah. It's so... He's so wrong on so many different levels that it's overwhelming. But also the fact that the system that we live in, this is legal, that's a problem. It's also a problem now because you certainly... Whoever has been the president... Look, there is no doubt in my mind that when you become the president, they're basically just like, look, here's five things you can't fuck with, good luck with the rest.
Starting point is 01:36:00 Something to that extent. There's obviously just like, you can't mess with the class structure and that sort of shit. But you now have someone who is in charge of the checks and balances who ignores checks and balances. Yeah, but I feel like there's been ignoring it checks and balances for a while. Right. But I mean, this is a guy who has a track record of explicitly doing it.
Starting point is 01:36:25 But it's not him, it's the people in charge who are rewatching him that should be doing it. But I think that's what's going to happen with that because that's all rolling along. We haven't gotten there yet. To me, this should be called how is capitalism going? Because this is a system that is set up to absolutely fuck people for the rich. Although if you do take a look at the tax plan, I think you'd be remiss to... Yeah. I did look up the art of the deal to see if there were 11 chapters.
Starting point is 01:37:04 I don't know if there are chapters, but there are 11 tips to good business or whatever to making the best deals. So it ends on chapter 11. And 11 is have fun. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right?
Starting point is 01:37:20 Good God. Thanks for listening.

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