The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 32 - The Leatherman - Smollop
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and go to Mingle and do what Frank? No, I can't eat. No, it's not my friend. No, no.
No, no, no. No. No. No. No. My name is Dave Anthony I'm here with Gary Browns.
The name of the fucking name is Gareth. And we're doing something called a
the small up yeah and my name is Gareth Gary sometime in 1820s France a young
couple named Borgley had a son Jules it's very French right now you were
with Jules Borgley the Borgley family up the toilet once you start saying Borgley
the whole your tongue wants Borgley your tongue just wants to roll around the
Borgley family occupation was wood cutting construction I I see nothing
wrong with what we're doing so far here they were lower-metal class during a
time when your social status was incredibly important your family's
wealth could determine your entire future what kind of job you would have
who you would marry and if you could go to school you're basically locked in
okay young Jules Borgley met and fell in love with Miss Margaret Laron the daughter
of a wealthy leather merchant sure so it's just a woodcutter and a leather
family merge and finally an excited Jules approached Margaret's father to ask
for his daughter's hand in marriage Margaret's father was like fuck no
okay mostly due to the fact that Jules from it was from a lower class it was
almost like a pig asking to marry his daughter a dirty fucking pig okay easy
I think you're getting a little venomous something of that nature yeah I mean I
don't think he's on record with dirty dirty he may have actually been nicer
and been in this situation than you yeah like big fucking you are a lot of
the mother you are fussy and you eat slop fucking back and piggy your unsloppy
pig looking at me fucking dumb eyes stupid curly tail Jules and Margaret did
not give up but they pled they begged Jules had sit-downs with the leather
merchant and eventually it was decided that Jules would be given the
opportunity to work in the family leather business okay all he had to do was
figure out the trade be successful and then he'd be allowed to marry Margaret
how can it go wrong seems like a simple hurdle to hop over easy Jules worked
hard good he took to the business and was quickly given more responsibilities
okay that's fine that's a good sign things are looking up that's a good sign
for Jules one of those responsibilities was purchasing leather on the open
market in 1855 he made a large leather purchase then in just a couple of days
the price of leather dropped by 40% it was the night the leather crash it was
the 9-eleven of leather 9-eleven the price dropped to a new breakthrough in
the tanning process before 1855 leather tanning had been done with tree bark and
was very difficult work then the tanning industry discovered a chemical compound
that could tan the leather in a lot less time with a lot less physical effort
Jules was completely screwed he had not been paying attention to the technology
happenings in the industry and because young Jules didn't have his eye on the
technology breakthroughs he was stuck with a bunch of leather that could only
be sold at a loss or should I say Margaret's father's business was stuck
with a leather yeah he's on the hook Margaret's father's leather business was
ruined oh Jesus so he's probably not marrying Mark
he had a little task and he did not do well yeah not good for the planning of
the wedding Jules was crushed he was too ashamed to go back to his own family and
just started wandering around Lyon France he just walked around homeless for
two years a local doctor took care of his basic knees but one day Jules
disappeared from Lyon and was never seen in the city or the country again he was
missing for a few years he was probably wandering around Europe all sad and upset
about leather prices yeah in 1862 a man fitting his description showed up in the
town of Harwinton Connecticut you know it's it's fitting his description that's
telling he was just in a crudely stitched leather outfit head to toe leather
from the Leatherman covered in loser leather that's his name he was called
the Leatherman by those who encountered him
I do love that feeling it's so absurd that my mind could connect to it immediately
upon arriving Jules began a 10 miles per day track between the Connecticut and
Hudson Rivers in leather from Harwinton Connecticut his route took him to Bristol
Forestville Huffington Kensington Berlin Middleton and south along the
Wesley's side of the Connecticut River to this shore towns he then traveled west
to Westchester County in New York yeah he sounds like he's having a good time
coming within a few miles with the Hudson River then back east of Connecticut
from Danbury Connecticut he went north to Milford through Rexbury Woodbury
Waterton play and back to Harwinton he did this in one month 365 miles in a
month holy shit and then he walked the circle again and again no and again Dave
and again Dave and again fuck and over and over no no no no people along his
journey gave him handouts but he didn't survive like camplets that were like get
your shit together enough with the leather
occasionally he would be invited to sleep in someone's shed or barn hot you
know what bar to be good for you more of a barn what's the house look like the
house is the house looks like you guys have nice food in the house is definitely
not good little leather man I'd love to sleep in that house I think you'll be good
with the goats okay the goats would be good too but Leatherman always chose to
sleep outside or in one of his many caves along his journey circle oh just I
don't know what else in there without any questions his journey circle or his
crazy loop or his sad circle whatever it is you can reach me by cave he's just
walking in a giant 365 mile circle sounds fine and good the people along his
journey were very curious about him and want to know where he came from but
Leatherman only spoke in grunts broken French or with gestures he must now am I
fair to assess that none of those are helpful in America really he mostly
communicated with what was described as a crude random pantomime a crude I don't
think those two have ever been combined pantomime my nature is sort of soft not
the way this guy was talking about dicky fucking big day his leather suit made him
look inhumanly large like a big leather bigfoot that's who you want doing the
crude pantomime big leather bigfoot he was also extremely shy it would look
people in the eyes now wanting vagrants were not surprising during this time
America was not in the greatest shape there were land shortages population
growth and unstable economy industrialization and westward migration
stretched the country to the breaking point you imagine that nightmare
situation living in those conditions a large group of men who were just
wandering around the country begging or looking for work American folklore is
filled with stories of them especially hobos on trains in the 1870s local
newspapers more and more frequently made the serious recommendation by editors
and letter writers that the solution to the tramp problem is either to give them
poison food oh my god to kill them or take them out and shoot them how are
those three options you got three options you can murder them kill them or
kill them like their plan was what's their tube their their their three prong
plan was different ways to do it it's not if it should be done you know what
we should actually call it one a b1 a you know what I mean one a bc I think
that'll be a good given poison food okay well I don't want to kill them you
could take him out and shoot him in the back of the head sounds like they died
just hit him with a goddamn break and break their fucking skull okay so your
ideas just kill hobos that's the those are our options fair dear Hartford
collar a solution to the tramp problem poison them to shoot them sincerely Larry
and Brown you're welcome what made the Leatherman unusual and it is his
incredible precision in his daily routine for whatever reason that endeared
him to people so the fact that he was coming he would literally come around
the circle and why every if he went to your house at 4 3 34 days ago he's
gonna show up at 4 again 34 days later like he was this crazy literally what's
known as OCD I've never heard of it
obvious circle disorder the 1885 Hartford Globe published in 1885 the
Hartford Globe published an article describing exactly how punctual the
Leatherman was for a hobo he had a compulsively regular schedule over an
enormous territory and this means that on 34 different nights he slept in 34
different places after his schedule was printed in the 1885 paper he became
somewhat of a celebrity oh god he was written about in the New York Times and
the New York Herald Tribune back then the press was very competitive and they
will they would sensationalize story to sell papers and you know I mean can you
imagine like a very different time if you fed him and he enjoyed your
hospitality he would show up 34 days later at the same time looking for food
again how did he not think he was getting poison hobo food he just didn't
he just he was positive glass half full kind of hobo yeah bowl of poison food
half full he would continue to come back every 34 days unless something frightened
him away he's like a fucking stray cat don't startle him the Leatherman oh god
he saw a flash oh god Jesus Christ you might have blown the Leatherman for us
he arrived so regularly families on the 34th day would have a meal prepared for
him when he arrived he would grunt or make appreciative gestures and then
quickly move along to keep his tight schedule two generations of the same
family would have known him he walked for that long so we're talking 30 years
yeah like now kids one day you're gonna be feeding the Leatherman yourself you
know how to do it now don't make any wild gestures and noises upon arriving for
a meal he would wrap sharply with a stick on the door when the owner opened
the door he would point to his mouth and grunt well isn't he delightful well I
think somebody's a little hungry can we keep him mommy can we keep him after a
couple of visits he wouldn't need to do that anymore he was always served outside
at a small table Leatherman he's so he had like it like everybody's house he
had like his own patio restaurant oh good Lord I mean honestly like that might
be a fair trade at this point to just walk in circles and just get fed a
bunch I might just go that route I excuse me I'm gonna look at my calendar
but I do believe it's been 34 days he was not known to bathe regularly and
wore the exact same Leather outfit for decades that breeze so like Jim Morrison
it breathes yeah exactly yeah who we've all known for a good smell problem after
eating he would be off sometimes he would bow at Rainer's I love that so yeah
good day I'm an Asian Leatherman today rain or snow hinder wheat hinder wheat
rain or snow hinder wheat just like the post office eat or wind he ate outside
sometimes he'd take a doggie bag to go he loved tobacco of course the Leatherman
dead he made pipes out of pieces of tin and hollow reeds his tobacco came from
cigar stubs and he would find along his route so he's just picking up we've seen
it but he's a hobo so that's what they're supposed to do I again we've seen it
yeah I was creed if I if that to me is not a problem with what's happening
I'm fine with that wrinkle he'd smoke when he set up his camp at night
occasionally a person would go and sit with him while he smoked they wouldn't
say a word well that's a good time I dare you I fucking dare you to go sit on
the log next to the Leatherman you man like how why go there like I'm gonna
sit next I'm not looking him that's why yeah there was no TV so what else are
you gonna do you're gonna Larry's gonna be like I'll fucking go sit next to the
God in Leatherman I want to smell the Leatherman smells good I want to get
inside that leather just give a big whiff oh boy I'm getting them I'm getting
the spins I'm spinning a little over here can't see oh god wow that's a bad
call he gained fame merchants use photos of the Leatherman to advertise their
goods what I guess if they sold leather it makes sense but if it's anything else
it's the craziest shit but what if it's like enjoy beef jerky for frosted flakes
hey you know what Leatherman likes beans can of beans can of beans sandals
brought to you by this lunatic look at this nut job how about some apples look
at this lunatic dot dot dot how about some apples look a man in a big leather
suit how would you like a hat tennis rackets take a look at this terrible man
mmm biscuits gum brought to you by this smelly freak
one woman gave Leatherman a brand new pair of boots to wear but he just took
them and cut them up he gave her back the souls and grunted thanks and wanted
off he just took the leather he just took the leather that literally must have
been what she said when she walked in the door he's just dying laughing he just
what thanks just like I'm gonna absorb this into my into my costume it'll be
part of me the souls are not it I don't need those he had a leather pack also
known as a man purse I think oh yeah he carried everything you own a knife and a
hatchet he made himself a steel pan scissors and ice pick and a French
prayer book dated 1844 well that's something mm-hmm it was assumed by many
that the Leatherman was Roman Catholic he wore a religious medal and carried
the prayer book with him and refused to eat meat on Fridays what now I will be
having fish yes you're talking to a man who cut the souls out of the shoes I
follow rules today it's tilapia yeah and also probably the pope was like is
there any way to tell him to stop supporting us please please please please
I beg if we could just maybe nip this in the bud a little I beg of thee keep go
give him all the leather some people cross the Leatherman at the quiet house
whoa Plymouth Connecticut a camera was hidden behind a bed sheet while he ate
then the sheet was dropped and a photograph was taken that was the last
time Leatherman stopped at the quiet house take that was the elephant me
people feeding me for free what I don't know which way is upright the person
taking that picture of him or him one day in Branford Connecticut he stopped at
Harding's grocery he ate a loaf of bread a pound of milk crackers a can of
sardines a quarter of a pie two quarts of coffee a gill of brandy and a bottle
of beer when he left he went down the road a half mile to the Chisney house
and ate his usual two-quart meal like what the fuck is happening what fucking
he's a monster like who can eat that well even if you were starving though
that's insane I don't know if you're starving or you're training that's like
the left side of the menu at Denny's yeah that's a yeah that's what Andre the
giant consumed but he wasn't a large man he stood five seven and weighed 160
pounds without the leather although if you're walking 365 miles you're gonna be
a little little thin down even though the people treated Leatherman well they
did not trust him some people did not treat him kindly people would often
try to get him drunk and get him to reveal his past secrets he began to
avoid places where he had bad experiences okay sweet that happened in New
Haven locals came out of the tavern and decided Leatherman would spill his guts
if he had some booze in him so they held him down and poured alcohol down his
throat is there not a quicker like more friendly route literally drowning and
waterboarding a man and Brandy I don't think so maybe just be like hey Leatherman
Brandy not in the 1870s you just get a funnel but what kind of person gets
forced to drink I mean be like oh I'm shitface in the town of Forestville he
was thrown into a horse trough this sounds like some of the shine is coming
off the allure of Leatherman these incidents cause Leatherman to avoid
town centers and he stuck to country roads and train tracks people became
concerned in 1877 when a raw sore appeared on his lip newspapers across the
area reported on his condition Jesus hear ye hear ye Leatherman has a derpy
it's like how E news started Leatherman herpes we have more the early
winter was very cold the sore was aggravated the skin on his hands face
and chest was for frostbitten causing it to become hard and swollen his skin
cracked and it was blood but he wouldn't take take help from anyone knew
anyway they would he was like I'm not just give me some biscuits just let me
become a cold let me become a walking cold sore you know what you know what a
zombie is we're headed there I'm good the people on this 34-day route tried to
get him to take lodging but he refused children followed him and discovered he
was living in caves setting fires that warm the rocks one of the most reported
on stories was his arrest in Middletown Connecticut Leatherman was taken into
custody by the Connecticut Humane Society what so the sore on his mouth could
be treated so an examination proved the sore to be cancerous ah within an hour
he escaped and was back on the move escaped his days were numbered did he
free any other Leatherman he picked up a stove and threw it through the wall and
then all the Leatherman man free and that's where there's that song look at
the Leatherman run free look at the that ratchet was like no everyone was
amazed when he survived the great blizzard of night of 1888 cities were
shut down all over the Northeast all modes of transportation were halted
hundreds died Leatherman was presumed to be a victim of the storm but he had
built a makeshift hut in Southington Connecticut and weathered the storm the
biggest blizzard of the 19th century only slowed him down by four days
Leatherman Leatherman on the 9th of December 1888 he came to the home of
James Bernard of North Haven he was brought to the fire by the family he
was cold and wet half the lower lip on his right side was eaten away they gave
him coffee and milk and cake and pie he drank six bowls of coffee
bowls I mean that's loaded should we give him a cup now give him the stuff that
doggies now he's in that lip oh good god look at this fucking give him a bowl
don't give my good mugs he put a piece of leather over his lips so he could eat
just did we even explain what that even means he put I mean for fuck sake good
Lord Leatherman oh love to be able to talk to him yeah he seemed grateful he
declined tobacco when he was his lip had fallen off I got I got to feel it's from
that um no I'll just keep my leather mouth when he was warm and hadn't eaten
enough he got up to go and left on March 24th 1889 Henry Miller brought his
fiancee to a cave to show her where Leatherman stayed when he was in the
area he saw the body of Leatherman Leatherman was dead that marriage was
fucking do yeah oh this is kind of weird huh boy I was taking out here for a
little fun thing anyway there's a body want to make out oh I was hoping to fuck
you the fuck feels like it's out of the question yeah right at the fuck you right
I feel like a fuck as possible the Westchester County coroner said he died
of cancer his death was reported on the front page of the New York Sun and the
Hartford Times and many other papers he was buried in Olsenang New York in a
Potter's Field he was not buried in his leather outfit a simple iron pipe marked
his grave okay why wasn't he buried in his leather out seriously he may I mean
what does he need to put in a fucking will yeah it's pretty clear like happier
and leather I've got like one thing that I like to wear just fucking let me die
and be buried in it he was pretty clear in if I walked around my whole life in
one suit and you switched suits when I was dead yeah I'm upset in 1953 someone
gave him a used headstone with the name Jules bugle carved in okay it's a used
headstone that's how Leatherman would have wanted it and I saw a video of it so
on the front it says his name but then on the back it's someone else's name is
like been rubbed off it's like a highlights you can notice the differences
I didn't know you could get it you said what happened to the was the person not
using it anymore I've been dead so long just go ahead and take it that is so
fucking true how like what I don't think why are there used headstones not a lot
of people who are like yeah you know what you can get rid of that just use the
it's not loose leaf yeah go ahead and flip it around flip it around you can
write on the back right on the back scribble out what was on the other side
the Globe Museum in New York purchased the Leatherman's clothing the Globe
Museum from who who the fuck sold it it's nobody's to sell it should be in his
coffin the guy who decided that Leatherman didn't want to be buried in
his leather sold it Dave he made a moral decision the suit was made of heavy
pieces of raw leather estimated to have weighed more than 60 pounds Jesus Christ
holy shit 300 the fucking back pain oh god his shoes were made of thick wooden
soles nailed to leather the Globe Museum then just a man in the outfit he ran
among the crowds at the museum growling I am hungry give me a child to eat so so
that guy's a terrible job so his memory was was secure that guy's worse than the
wild man of Borneo um he's worse than Ufti I think I want to see them together
and I can maybe make a decision I think if I heard Ufti Gufti okay first of all
Ufti had to put on tar horsehair this guy had to put on a suit but a man died
in after wearing for 30 years and the the addition imagine the ball smell from
the pants if the ball smell from the pants also the addition of give me a
baby to eat it's like that's not what Leatherman said give me a bit that's a
nice little change protests from people who knew the Leatherman caused the
museum to stop what is maybe the greatest life show ever the suit has
disappeared his pictures are still found in family albums so people took
pictures of them and they passed them on and now Leatherman is today leather
leather men are completely different today what today Leatherman are
completely out there but no one's still strong no one's happy to these days
to see a Leatherman show up looking for food some people are Dave some people
hey you got any apples do you want to be fucked hey Leatherman here got any
apples this is obsession with apples the idea of advertiser is getting behind
him knock knock Leatherman here how's your asshole excuse me leather man got
apples got any apples boy that's crazy that's the story the Leatherman there's
the greatest video which I can post yeah I post it's the videos tremendous it's
just it's like a from years ago like a a reenactment no like a guy like the
local Hewington Connecticut station and there's like a big bearded guy walking
around and then the Leatherman and he was like that goes to different places he
went to the grocery store and it's really fucking awesome he was obsessed with
apples yes really it's tremendous that's amazing all right that's a small
up a good smile up congrats to everybody bye everybody