The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 321 - Erik Prince and Blackwater

Episode Date: March 27, 2018

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine super rich guy Erik Prince and his contributions to humanity. SOURCESTOUR INFO MERCH BY JAMES FOSDIKE...

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Starting point is 00:00:45 jam-packed jam-packed I'm the fucking hippo guy! My name's Gary and this is not gonna come with tiggly-quad now hit him with the puppy you both present sick arguments June 6 1969 Eric Prince was born to parents Edgar and Elsa Prince Eric Prince okay Holland Michigan okay are you do you know who this is no oh my god why is it so funny it's just crazy you don't know oh wait wait I do know who this is so I think I know who this is so his his dad Edgar his father died when he was 12 so his mother Eric's grandmother took quote no government handouts no chair and no charity from the church not even money from family so
Starting point is 00:01:49 she right she did it her way and yeah well sort of she sent Edgar who had two sisters to provide for the family okay cool so that's a different way so she's not really being super great oh I would say I would say she's being an asshole right okay yeah yeah I don't want to say if I write she's being an ass because rather than taking from the church or government handouts is it what how sharing a 12 year old to work I will not be given things for free Edgar get everything so yeah so clearly this creates a very normal person right do that sure right right somehow I did okay though he served in the Air Force he
Starting point is 00:02:27 borrowed 10,000 from his mom at some point to start his own die-cast machine manufacturing firm which you love I love die-casts Prince Machine Corporation it eventually became a billion dollar company by supplying car companies and by the 1990s Prince employed a quarter of the city of Holland okay yeah great that's it good sir I think it's really good thank you bud yeah so dialuppodcast.com slash tour see you tomorrow thanks bud and at a heart attack at age 42 that's a good sign that means you're it's good yeah no that's that's a sign that you're nice and calm and you're living your life the right way that's self yeah he
Starting point is 00:03:08 committed he quote committed himself anew to his faith in Jesus Christ well David we've this is a road we've hoed before and let's say this is not always the best news when we're doing this show yeah he he he did what you do with doctors recommend after you have a heart attack fine God jump into Christ you get right into Christ so Ed helped launch the family research council mm-hmm an evangelical organization that works to ban worked and works to ban gay marriage promote school vouchers for Christian schools and outlaw abortion and stem cell research this is what I thought it was yeah and young Eric was
Starting point is 00:03:50 one of the organization's first interns great so yeah it's great I mean it's good to be interning there for sure and 1980 Eric's older sister Betsy oh my god Dave what I mean do I need to get like some kind of mallet slowly sort of bang into my head she married Dick Devos Jr. he was the boss Davos is out of the boss yeah he's another sip super rich guy who was the heir to the amway fortune the billion dollar amway fortune and was a great company but I'm gonna can I just jump I don't know if I'm gonna be able to do this I'm gonna get I'm already irritated well yeah it's gonna get really weird the devos is out
Starting point is 00:04:35 of this devos devos family are also big funders of far right causes as well Betsy is currently the US Secretary of Education she has a college degree from Calvin College which offers quote a courageous and comprehensive Christ centered education can I say also the only member of the Trump cabinet who has not blinked since inauguration day hmm she has yet to liquefy her eyes if you believed in Jesus the way she does you would understand how to do that well the problem I think the plate she has is if she blinks will she miss the second coming so Eric Prince grew up rich and attended the very religious Holland
Starting point is 00:05:14 Christian High School he spent hours talking politics with his dad being very active in the church he got a pilot's license at age 17 okay like most kids he was very interested in military strategy yeah no a lot of kids are into that yeah quote quote once in class I challenged a teacher who called then president Ronald Reagan's Cold War military buildup a waste of taxpayers dollars I countered so he's he's arguing with his teacher yeah I countered by rattling off every strategic defense initiative weapon system we needed to counter various Soviet threats I'd analyzed Reagan's Star Wars the way my classmates picked
Starting point is 00:06:04 apart the University of Michigan's football roster I wanted to battle the Soviets myself hmm so that's a sign that you're a psychopath are you sure high school sure yeah of course Star Wars was an insane money suck and does not exist to this day because it was fucking bullshit well but still he rattled off all the names of all the things that weren't gonna be real well I mean it's it is if you're gonna rattle off something that's fake Star Wars seems like it's just kind of a bad place to play in any way yeah so if you know what Star Wars is it was Reagan's fake we're gonna put a missile protection shield up in
Starting point is 00:06:43 the sky it's best the best way I can explain it we're going to build more missiles on the moon than those damn roots keys next I went to the Naval Academy in Annapolis he lasted three whole semesters well that's pretty good yeah and then he left and he came back to Michigan he went to Hillsdale College which focused on libertarian free-market economics oh and it's also insanely religious so I say free market just like Jesus preached how do you break that gap mentally right it is just Kool-Aid drinking you just have to drink Kool-Aid just to sort of cleanse your own palate of your nonsense I have
Starting point is 00:07:24 absolutely no fucking clue how you can be that into Jesus and the free market no no no well it's like Jesus said trickle down like the blood out of Christ palm on the cross trickle down so Hillsdale takes no government money so it doesn't have to follow guidelines on the handling of sexual assault cases or report on student race and ethnicity well well it was it was rated the most conservative college in the country in a 2006 Princeton poll so that's where he went to school it's a cool probably a guy you and I'd get along with yeah I think we'd have a lot of fun he was an economics I would I would pay money to
Starting point is 00:08:04 see you argue Star Wars with him good money he was an economics and political science major and after his junior year he interned in George HW Bush's White House first Bush quite a resume we're getting here this left him a bit disillusioned with Washington really but I thought why because okay quote before long I came to feel that President Bush was bargaining with people who wanted to weaken the sanctity of marriage raise taxes with budget compromises and push environmental policies that meant undo expenses for major national employers you know I did explain this to me explain so God the
Starting point is 00:08:50 fact that you're breaking this early God it's not good God and Jesus yeah right they this whole well I mean so God's created Earth he's created the planet and all these for plunder well for never plunder is a strong term I think right I think I don't know for plunder God made everything on this planet to buy and sell and like God said in revelations the planet's a buffet and it's shut and grab everything everything and get out go put it in your pants I saw a lot of things I didn't agree with homosexual groups being invited in the budget agreement the Clean Air Act those kinds of bills oh my god clean
Starting point is 00:09:28 homosexuals homosexuals include homosexuals in clean air I mean in Los Angeles the first time I visited was around this time and I walked out I was staying in the Hollywood Hills just just kind of a little way up the hill a little like like three blocks up for Hollywood Boulevard and I walked out of my friend's house and I looked down I couldn't see the city then the Clean Air Act passed and now that is not there that's what's so funny to people who moved here or who had never been here for that like because I'm here and I'm like this is a smoggy shithole you couldn't see yeah and now people like
Starting point is 00:10:04 it's way better yeah it is way better a million times better so he was super opinionated when he was interning and and his internship quote quickly wrapped up after five months okay great fucking dickhead right okay extreme conservative congressman Dana Rohrbacher then offered Eric an internship so Eric became close with Charles Colson who would become his mentor Charles Colson okay Colson was Nixon special counsel back in the day he wrote Nixon's enemies list and served seven months after Watergate okay we're just really adding some ingredients into the cauldron of evil you
Starting point is 00:10:42 got to find someone to follow right yeah after he went after he got out of prison he became a born Christian and wrote the bestseller born again right he was also super super anti-Muslim okay Eric married Eric then married Joan he was 21 she was 23 so got married young sure he trained it became a Navy Seal okay and then in 1995 his dad died okay Edgar Edgar was out Eric quote my hero was gone okay well Eric was on an aircraft carrier in the Mediterranean Sea a guy another guy on the ship discussed an idea he had for seals to train at one centralized location instead of what they were doing at the time which was
Starting point is 00:11:23 training all over the place and learning different skills well that sounds like a fun little twist on an old idea yeah and so this guy didn't know that Eric was loaded and had the money to do it and Eric would later say that he came up with that idea oh the this is obvious this is black water that's when a rich guy just takes your idea which is also known as America ah Zuckerberg in 1996 Joan found a lump in her breast okay and she's pretty young right yeah Eric was discharged from the seals you know to get out and take care of her I guess I assume maybe okay that's why he left we don't know that's how it seems okay the
Starting point is 00:12:01 family sold Prince Automotive for 1.35 billion and Eric incorporated a company known as Blackwater Lodge and Trading Center uh-huh uh-huh the company bought 3100 acres in North Carolina quote a cross between a shooting range and a country club for special forces person I did I mean it that is an insane hybrid no it's a country country club for Navy Steals it's a country club and shooting place for for guys who kill people for living right one of those deals okay cool he Eric called it his quote field of dreams oh my god what I just have issues with Eric it's like it's like in his in his mind it's no different than
Starting point is 00:12:45 then then carving out a baseball field in a in a shoeless Joe Jackson's gonna come out of the corner and throw one for a ghost come out and you play with them so it's his version of that except except it's these are dead Navy Seals so Blackwater Lodge and Trading Center officially opened the next year the property was now half the size of Manhattan oh my god expanding and expanding Eric had invested six million of his own money which sounds like a lot until you realize the family has 1.35 billion dollars and it's like fucking it's like a nothing it's literally like a change Blackwater trained private and government forces police officers came from
Starting point is 00:13:25 around the country foreign governments got counterterrorism training Steve Waterman of Soldier of Fortune magazine quote a great chow hall a great chow hall yeah satellite TV systems in the dorms and plenty of hot water in the showers I would put Blackwater ahead of any of the civilian or military training sites I have visited I'm sorry I just want to make sure so who are they training that right now they're just training like this is well he clearly invited the guy from Soldier of Fortune down to have a spin right so right now they're training they are training elite no no they are training private and
Starting point is 00:14:10 government forces okay these officers right from all over the country so they are sending counterterrorism right so they are militarizing forces and they're training really anybody and they're hired service for any anyone who wants it I mean obviously they're not gonna train Al Qaeda but but still I mean we trained Al Qaeda points so it's like you know it comes back to bite you sometimes in April 1999 two students killed 12 classmates and one teacher at Columbine High School within six weeks Blackwater had built a 16-room steel building that was built for live gunfire inside and explosions outside for
Starting point is 00:14:52 dynamic entry there was a soundtrack of alarms and people screaming mm-hmm Eric quote we called the massive structure are you ready high school oh what what why if I never heard of this they built a fake yeah high school stage to like yeah shoot and practice who's practicing these elite forces SWAT SWAT guys are practicing we had actors playing students covered in blood and pleading for help I booked it honey good news I've got the role of a lifetime I'm playing a science teacher with a hole in his head I'm playing a biology teacher who's been cut in the throat with a beaker backpacks contained
Starting point is 00:15:44 mock moms shooters hid among the students to lie and wait for police over four months Blackwater trained 400 SWAT officers in the building so the great thing about that is is it stopped all that stuff what's yeah very dry Dave I was like but it didn't wait Eric and John had more kids she battled her cancer would come and go like it was returning okay well we wish that a party now of course not in 2000 they moved to Virginia to be close to DC and Blackwater water was then approved for government contracts hey here we are the great unraveling after Al Qaeda bombed the USS Cole in Yemen Blackwater got a three
Starting point is 00:16:31 point sorry three seven point three five point seven million dollar contract to train 20,000 Navy sailors so when they be seals sailors a Navy say okay wow sailors okay so I mean yeah okay so Blackwater's doing very very well well it seems like I'm until this point I mean I'm not a big guy who understands military very well but it seems like we were doing fine training sailors yeah well it seemed like anybody was like hey they're they're not trained well right apparently this guy are they I mean are they training them to they're just training them for anti-terrorism fucking bullshit that anybody could train for it
Starting point is 00:17:17 more violent I mean or just just like it's just a fantasy camp yeah it's a fancy camp okay well you know that people would say they actually use it during war but yeah but even when you hear I'm sure we'll hear but it's a never mind Blackwater expanded again to more than 12 square miles so flood at this point so after Vietnam the US military had come up with something called the Abrams doctrine I feel like it's gonna be weird basically if a military operation could not get public support of the level needed to involve the entire nation then maybe it shouldn't happen in the first place when was that this was after
Starting point is 00:17:52 after Vietnam yeah I mean we never never was that in play well no yeah yeah because for you know what did Reagan invade and they he would have wanted to invade something else but he invaded Granada but you know these guys wanted to invade more stuff right so the yeah it did for a little while Vietnam did hurt we didn't invade anybody for what 20 years until Panama yeah that's a pretty big deal we love our love and yeah all right yeah so so Donald Rumpfeld becomes a secretary defense good guy on September 10th 2001 oh Jesus doll Rumpfeld gave a major address and named the enemy Pentagon bureaucracy
Starting point is 00:18:41 quote some might ask how in the world could the secretary of defense attack the Pentagon in front of its people to them I reply I have no desire to attack the Pentagon I want to liberate it we need to save it from itself what is he saying he's saying that they're they're just not he's saying let's let's stop hiring public employees and start bringing in private employees oh shit Jesus oh my god that's really good timing oh yeah because the next day it was 9-11 right so a private army is a great way to get around the Abrams doctrine right because now you don't have people getting drafted and dying in war you
Starting point is 00:19:26 just see you guys yeah to do it and yeah the 9-11 happened a huge struck a luck for Eric Prince right quote I the only guy who celebrated more than Gary Condon quote I've been operating in the training business now for years and I was starting to get a little cynical on how seriously people took security now the phone is ringing off the hook oh god it is the worst watching the like the war erections from these these people are it is disgusting yeah it's crazy when you hear like when you hear them in a room talking about like this is big business for us guys this is a big business we're gonna make a lot of money
Starting point is 00:20:06 because of all this war someday you'll be like 9-11 was the best yeah soulless people the U.S. invaded Afghanistan in October 2001 the CIA gave Blackwater its first Afghanistan no bid contract guarding CIA a Kabul station and the airport mm-hmm the mercenaries mainly elite former military more than half were combat veterans they signed a contract that they risked quote being shot permanently maimed and or killed by a firearm or munitions falling aircraft or helicopters sniper fire landmine artillery fire rocket propelled grenade truck or car bomb poisoning civil uprising terrorist
Starting point is 00:20:50 activity hand-to-hand combat disease killed or maimed while a passenger to helicopters suffering hearing loss eye injury or loss inhalation or contact with biological or chemical contaminants or flying debris oh you get the point yeah okay cool yeah that's what happens in a war zone from everything yeah but so as good as things were going with Blackwater things were not so good at home Jones cancer had returned so Eric naturally started fucking the nanny right right because he's a friend dresser yeah okay yeah and then he hired her to work at Blackwater so he started banging her and then he's like why don't
Starting point is 00:21:33 you come up to come to the office oh boy her name was Joanna well that's an easy that's easy in the tattoo game if you get a tap you know yeah just go ahead and put a name it says you have $300 on a cover-up yeah which I'm sure Eric was into yeah okay so he just has replaced Joan with a Joanna uh-huh cool well on June 14th 2003 Joan died of cancer at the age of 36 they had four kids eight years and under but there's a new baby on the way Eric had knocked up the nanny before his wife died Jesus well God is good yeah God is good he is good to all of us maybe we all enjoy the spoils of the Lord it was
Starting point is 00:22:14 the same thing Jesus would have done in that situation absolutely absolutely that's what he always said Joanna came to Jones funeral pregnant and showing what who how was that okay this is the family Christian Christian thing to do but is it I mean wonder people are like good work Eric I don't know I imagine they weren't really talking about it but yeah okay yeah well you know yeah black water employees know like everybody but Eric turned his quote all consuming sense of loss into an all-consuming drive to forge black water into everything Joan and I dreamed it could be hmm so he's now he's now
Starting point is 00:22:53 making black water successful for his dead wife cheating on boy so this is like the John Edwards of the Army very much right and Iraq US special forces took full of so Iraq wars going on they special forces take Fallujah and Iraq he's there agreed to surrender without a fight if you US troops would leave in a couple days and not occupy and so US troops agreed and they left and then and then they came back and then there was a protest by the locals and then the US troops started shooting people and it turned into bloodbath more than 75 people injured over 13 killed the US version of events didn't actually fit
Starting point is 00:23:33 the facts it's weird yeah in Fallujah someone hung a banner quote sooner or later US killers will kick you out boy okay so that's okay it's a good vibe yep goodbye it's always fun to relive Iraq yeah it's good to get back here just the fun to hear Fallujah again a little while later May 1st 2003 Bush declared mission accomplished oh my god Dave I mean this is like with the wars over so you should be happy isn't and then he removed we did it we finally got rid of all them terrorists he mission accomplished and then he removed all the bath party members in Iraq and dissolve the Iraqi army and all the sudden
Starting point is 00:24:12 fighting went a fuck that would we call that the worst decision made in the Iraq war no I would say it that after it's an exception yeah the Iraq war may may be the biggest military blunder in US history but yeah but that was definitely the war no the worst decision was not including the State Department in the planning of the Iraq war and just but I'm talking about once we're there and we've gone rogue with this plan that like was gonna be a cake job this is probably the worst decision right okay but there's a lot of bad a lot of bad ones lots of love so the insurgency is on black water gets a
Starting point is 00:24:53 2.2 1.3 million dollar contract to protect us ambassador Paul Brewer for 11 months Paul Bremer right Bremer so yeah the mercenaries got $600 a day okay Bremer was surrounded by 10 mercenaries and khakis and polo shirts if he's in the green zone if he goes into Baghdad there were three dozen men helicopters surveillance and counter assault teams Jesus he's like a fucking king I know it really like why go yeah why go humbies just to show that oh man this man can't exist here yeah just humphies and armored Chevy suburbans full of black water shooters would drive around black water started handing
Starting point is 00:25:34 handling security from more and more people in Iraq like the group who were looking for WMDs that did not exist right right by mid 2004 black water was doing security and training for the Department of Defense the State Department and the CIA in multiple countries so they're hot yeah they're hot they're taking off that I'm felt like go baby yeah well yeah rum spells very active in 18 months from 2003 to 2004 black water made over 20 million dollars Jesus Christ in September 2003 for black water mercenaries were ambushed one had machine gun armor piercing rounds which were not approved
Starting point is 00:26:13 by the military because they created horrific wounds what one of the black water guys did yeah machine of course ask that question yeah okay he killed one guy by shooting him in his ass the bullet is so horrifying that it just got it up right your butt or whatever oh my god technical term no yeah no that's very no no no obviously you've worked in the yeah I'm a medical I'm a medical you're medic a Pentagon official threatened the black water guy with court-martial but because he thought he was a soldier and then when he found he wasn't a soldier then it didn't matter he was like here you scamp because no
Starting point is 00:26:56 rules next time ask other private firms were being hired soon there were more than 20,000 private soldiers in Iraq costing more than 2 billion and they were upwards of 30% of the Iraq reconstruction budget and what it okay what I mean how active are there they're very very very okay and they were free to do what else right Jeremy Skahill quote I hope it's right that's Skahill yeah yeah he's a great awesome from Wisconsin he's fucking great great reporter quote what these forces did in Iraq how many people they killed how many of them died or were wounded all remain unanswerable questions because
Starting point is 00:27:37 no one was overseeing their activities in the country so you have 20,000 dudes that nobody nobody's keeping track no oversight nobody cares about exactly I mean you care about but they don't want to take an orange field planted right because you don't want those numbers coming back right right though Eric said someone was keeping tabs shootings had to be called in and ammunition was counted so he's saying there was someone but come on Eric quote some shootings resulted in fatalities although admittedly we don't have the exact numbers on it so he said someone's keeping tabs and shootings had to be called in but
Starting point is 00:28:11 admittedly at the same time they're not he doesn't actually have the numbers right okay right my men were guards non-investigators digging around to analyze a shooting would have been directly counter to our mission to keep the principles away from threats the mission so the big mission the well the mission their mission is security so they're trying to get you know a guy from place to place right so if they kill a guy doing that they can't stop because they're trying to get Paul Bremer somewhere so they can't stop and look at the guy's head they just blew up or tick off a number or whatever that
Starting point is 00:28:41 would be crazy no no no you it's hard to count one mercenary said quote we shot to kill and didn't stop to check a pulse in 2004 Eric married Joanna so things are going good fine good that's soon yeah I mean but I guess well she's she's pregnant and then the eyes of God right gotta get moving I don't want to make this weird meanwhile the fluja the Marines were trying to build up local trust after what had happened as far as private contractors there was ESS support services worldwide which was a subcontractor to Halliburton subsidiary KBR that provided for troops food for troops so ESS had to take a bunch of
Starting point is 00:29:23 kitchen equipment out of a camp west of fluja and someone had to protect ESS's kitchen convoy blackwater partnered with Regency Hotel and Hospitality Company what is happening to become the subtract subcontracted security provider for ESS this made blackwater the subcontractor to the subcontractor of the contractor of the army wait and oh my god my head basically they're now protecting so your company and you and you're hired to do something and you don't have got enough guys so you hire the other company so now they're protecting pots and pans comes in to help out right so the company that's
Starting point is 00:29:58 hired to do fucking dishes they have to hire a black wire to protect them and then black water so now guys they hire another company to help out like it's just all but we don't have time to count the bodies we got to get these forks to the cafeteria like it's just guys trying to get bodies in there to make money right that's all it and there's money to be made the tons of money to be made so for black water man come into this situation a few days early because the previous private company that had been watching over ESS bailed they didn't want to do this run to get the dishes at the Camp West of Felucia so they just
Starting point is 00:30:33 took off and then black with the black water guys rolled in earlier than they were supposed to be there so they didn't have the SUVs they needed and the machine guns that they like it while their equipment wasn't there sure and then EMS ESS was like hey we need you to make this run to get 16 truckloads of kitchen equipment out of Felucia now we got us to flay to make and the black water guys weren't properly equipped and didn't have their vehicles but they're like let's do this is this where they just take pizza cutters and they just start going there like let's go they were ambushed there was no evidence of
Starting point is 00:31:09 that they returned fire the black water return yeah over in seconds the four black water men were burned and mutilated one was dragged through the streets of Felucia two were strung up from a bridge crowds beat the bodies enchanted Felucia is the graveyard of Americans the bodies hung for hours as reporters broadcast it around the world yeah these were black waters first casualties some people wanted to know why black water was there in the first place and how they got themselves in that situation you know the kind of thing where you where you you investigate what's occurred and try to
Starting point is 00:31:46 figure out what the problem you recognize that something is not just that something's nuanced yeah of course George W. Bush said quote I want heads to roll yeah so same thing as an investigation or looking into reasons why yeah yeah no this is what we had like a YouTube comment huge lefty Nancy Pelosi said quote we're not going to run out of town because some people were lawless in Felucia so so here we see right exactly and this is like this is the tipping point where it is you know a problem that's always occurred which is when you think that you want to support you know people from America trying to
Starting point is 00:32:26 do good in the world and yet you're never allowed to have a conversation that actually breaks down the reality of a situation because if you do you're an asshole and you're with the terrorists or whatever as opposed to why the fuck are their private guys and that is driving around with the guarding dish trucks and that obviously is so precarious because you don't want to sound like you are not respectful of the fact that people died that Americans died whatever you know but you still should be able to find out about a branch of the government's military that you don't know about or just just bring up the
Starting point is 00:33:03 fact that generally the fucking military is a lot more careful than that yeah right and they don't fucking make a right dish right and through Felucia like they handle a different way right the military also well we'll get into this okay right so five days later is the Marines attacked Felucia 75 buildings were destroyed 1400 people killed 700 insurgents 70 700 civilians Felucia then grew into a staging ground for insurgent attacks that exploded across the US all because four Blackwater guys did what they should not have done on June 20th or were ordered to do what they should not have done
Starting point is 00:33:35 probably ordered on June 28th 2004 Paul Bremer left Iraq just after issuing order 17 which reads in quote in part partly in quote contractors shall not be subject to Iraqi laws or regulations in matters regulating to the terms and conditions of their contracts etc so so these guys who are not under military are militaries rules now are not subject to Iraq's militaries rules so they're subjected to whose rules their rules one rule their rule it is crazy for Bremer to say it like I know but they're just like it is it truly is there are so many miscalculations if Nancy Pelosi yeah is saying we're not going to run out
Starting point is 00:34:24 of town because some people were laws and Felucia who the fuck is standing up also weren't they who was it was shit yeah I mean people voted against the Iraq war so not not not many we send out a message yeah the nation magazine quote these private soldiers were granted the right to act as if they pleased with utter impunity anywhere in the country so they're fucking off the leash off the leash cool but Blackwater got the contract for security of high level US and foreign officials so they're taking care of people right right things are good but this this contract is not as much fun as the department
Starting point is 00:35:04 defense one this which have been 20 pages this one is through the State Department and it's over a thousand pages right so they got they got notes the studio notes they got no not good they got can you the part where your but you guys want us to keep this under a hundred pages and you guys are giving us all these notes yeah you know what I mean so you guys are saying that you're not saying some of the chemistry between between some of these things but we're trying to keep it under right because we have to do this but you know we just need more stuff you know I'm just worried we're gonna lose the
Starting point is 00:35:36 fun yeah I think with that we're gonna lose a lot of what originally got us here for the fun so we're hearing you and what we're saying is is it's a war so it's not supposed to be fun no no I'm not saying fun I mean fun to read fun to do right yeah it's an occupation yeah I just really I guess I hate to push back so much yeah but I feel like you guys are you're losing what I loved about it which was the freedom to have fun so all that is what we're trying to lose yeah all right all right all right I guess we all like each other so we should get going I'm gonna take me strawberries get out of here I don't
Starting point is 00:36:19 need to be valid at Street Park the new contract detailed everything from Oakley wraparound sunglasses that mercenaries could wear to how long it would take a guard to run a mile and a half so they're they're now getting hit with what we would call some kind of standard yeah standard yeah standard rules so to keep threats away when they're driving guy from point A to point B right the the diplomat or whatever right yeah or dog who knows blackwater drove convoys on the wrong side of the street rammed a civilian vehicles tossed smoke bombs and fired weapons as warnings so they're basically they're basically all in the
Starting point is 00:36:59 animal house that's cool like that's there right yeah right for sure right they're just having there's just some guys in college having fun kids will be kids an embedded journalist said quote they use their machine guns like car horns oh my what Dave that's not how we do that is exactly how we do that's not no America I'm surprised that had that doesn't happen already America we just shoot your you shoot your gun as a car horn well I mean be honest how far away do you think we are of that big motherfucking cat here it's going don't go in the box with this stuff whatever is whatever is the thing that you need the
Starting point is 00:37:35 most he will he will get involved with him oh my god he's calling an audible they then hired so they hired us da and Navy trained Colombians who had fought the drug wars right in Colombia okay and they promised them $4,000 blackwater hires yes okay and they pay offer them $4,000 a month to go there and be mercenaries in Iraq sure so as they're leaving as they're getting on the plan they're told it'll actually about $2,700 a month as they're hit like they're there like hey we just can we had to cut you down just a minor quick update we actually had to cut you out 27 sorry about that so don't mean on to cut you
Starting point is 00:38:14 let's have a great flight and get out of here boys yeah miss that 1300 by the way we need you to sign the contracts right now before you get on the plane without reading them just quickly get put a little John Hancock down there so they have these guys sign the contracts before they before they take off the contracts for the $2,700 right so they're like sign these now yeah we got to get them done they're not enough time for you to read them right and then on the way they find out they actually signed contracts for $1,000 look we live in LA we know what it's like what happens when you sign a
Starting point is 00:38:45 contract you didn't read you got you should be problematic you should have an agent so when they land when they land they now are making $1,000 as opposed to $4,000 it's a little bit less but quarter but that happens when you fly on planes I think I think sometimes it doesn't happen if you go about 30,000 feet your money you get it's called the financial terminal yeah yeah so in Iraq the Colombians demanded the $2,700 they had been promised or they would leave they're like we want the $2,700 we're fucking out sure and so like how they go for the foreground yeah I know right yeah blackwater told them to go
Starting point is 00:39:20 for it leave and buy your own plane ticket home because we're not gonna pay for it but they just seem cool they do right and I'm sure it's cheap to fly out of Baghdad under the October no no they just got to use Expedia yeah yeah and then so I guess they were probably thinking about it and then blackwater threatened to kick them off the base and onto the streets of Baghdad if they didn't agree so what I mean so they went so they're just a indentured as shocking as the sense they've they're a thugish army yeah quote a blackwater VP explained it there was a change in the contract so the numbers
Starting point is 00:39:54 are different well I don't think any of us have any more questions oh now that you explained it it makes complete change okay well I mean yeah I can't I can't argue with you sir there was a change in the contract all the numbers are indeed different yeah yeah the only thing is I wish that there hadn't been an unnecessary change had to be changed why because there's a contract right but of my question is why did the contract have to be changed but that was different numbers right because the numbers are different why are the numbers different because the contract why did it change who told you to change it I don't remember
Starting point is 00:40:34 I just know it had to be changed that the contract had to be changed to make the numbers different you've the numbers were different so we had to reflect that on the contract. Who made them different? They were different. Who made them different? Who told you that the numbers were different? I mean I wrote I wrote it in there. Okay so the numbers are different because you wrote it in there. Yeah. Because the numbers changed. Because of you. No no no no the numbers have changed. And then you just put it in. Yeah yeah I wrote them in but they changed on the way. Before we got. Okay. When we gave it to you they changed. Yeah
Starting point is 00:41:09 I just don't think contracts. And then you signed that. So you signed the contract that had already changed. Because you said when I was getting on the plane that I had no choice that either I didn't but miss the plane or I. Yeah also yeah so it was different. Yeah. Well I get a good vibe. I mean overall I get a pretty good vibe. You're gonna have a good time with me. Yeah I like the volleyball court. What about the smoke bombs? No I won't wait a minute. Do we prank here? Yeah. Are we pranksters? Like a really loud car horn? I sure do. On January 5th 2005 the families of the Blackwater mercenaries who have been killed in
Starting point is 00:41:45 Fallujah followed a wrongful death suit against Blackwater. Okay. The suit alleged the company did not provide appropriate manpower, vehicle armor or time to adequately adequately review their route and complete risk assessments. All. As well as that their mission was to deliver. Plates. Plates. Yeah but all true. Like that's just. Right. Everything. Yeah for sure. Blackwater then hired expensive well-connected lawyers from five DC law firms. Eric said the family accusations of cutting corners to save money was disgusting. Now how do you do it? Because as we've just heard. How do you do it? They would never
Starting point is 00:42:21 cut corners not this Blackwater group. Not our Blackwater. Now stay away from the Colombian. Don't talk to the Colombians. But we wouldn't do that. Blackwater said the men had authorization from the Office of the Secretary of Defense. This meant that Blackwater should be immune from liability. That's what they're saying. Not a good thing. Well yes because if contractors can't be sued it's easier in the future for a president to send them to war. Right. Right. So this is important. This is important that we hold them accountable. Yeah so it's fighting wars in which there is no true accountability because if their guys
Starting point is 00:42:58 sent over there to work and they're not army guys being working for the government or being drafted or whatever then it's just like they're not there. Right. Right. Which means they can get away with anything. You don't have to report their fucking death. It's just a guy who died. No. When the defense wanted to depose the guy who oversaw the Blackwater contracts Blackwater just sent him to the Middle East so they couldn't do that. Sure. They treated him like Mr. T. on the A team. He's not here. He just took off. Yeah. Yeah unfortunately he moved to Baghdad. Other place. Yeah he moved a little far away. So Eric then countersued the mothers
Starting point is 00:43:41 and widows of the dead men for counter damages because they had you know gone after him and talked bad about him. So I mean this is just a huge piece of shit. Yeah he's giant. I mean we knew he was but that is like offensively awful. Suing widows? Not great. Suing the people of I mean they're... He let die because he didn't adequately yet. To get plates there. The families agreed to a small settlement. Eric estimated the this split four ways would not cover the court costs. Well at least he's on record with that. That's a cool dude. That is and again falls right in line with the Jesus that we heard about. That's right. Blackwater hired prominent
Starting point is 00:44:21 people to make people customers, new possible customers believe they had a direct line to the US government. Great. There was a former chief of operations for the CIA's Counterterrorism Center, a former associate deputy director of operations of the CIA, a CIA veteran who was on and on. One guy was a legendary for resting carlers the Jackal in 1993. He promised Bush that when he was done with al-Qaeda quote they will have flies walking across their eyeballs. Well doesn't happen if you're fine. Right. No. If you're not good flies can walk across their eyeballs. No you're either a cow or you're dying. Yeah. Yeah. Like you're not.
Starting point is 00:44:59 You wanted to. Like if you can't blink your eyes shit's gone really sour. Or you're in the middle of some sort of weird competition. Yeah. On a Japanese game show. Oh yeah. Yeah. Have you seen that show flies on the eyeballs? Fly on eye? Yeah. So after after this Bush's inner circle nicknamed him flies on the eyeballs guy. That's it. Yeah. Got any deeper than that. That is but that was Bush's rap. Yeah. Give him a nickname. He's limping. You're flying the eyeball guy. I'm calling him Sneezy. This guy's fly across eyeballs. Sneezy. Sneezy and fly. I name everyone a dwarf. I want to get all the dwarves in my cabin. I really do. Sneezy grumpy.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Altogether there was a 65 man 24 hour operation in Arlington that provided threat analysis political briefing. So basically it's a big fucking now giant office. We have a Walmart of military. It's a big lobbying fucking group. Meanwhile a Pentagon Inspector General Joseph Schmidt was slowing or blocking investigations of senior Bush officials. So this is a guy who's overlooking this kind of shit. Like he's overlooking contracts that are bad and people are acting bad. It's his job. He's not. He's blocking investigations. He's slowing them down. He's also accepting gifts that may have violated ethics guidelines. So
Starting point is 00:46:12 he's the guy overlooking ethics guidelines and he's and he's taking. Okay. It sounds like he can overlook as well as someone who's got flies walking across her eyeballs. Okay. Investigator is working under Schmidt. We're so concerned about his loyalties that they stopped telling him who they were investigating and use letter codes during weekly briefings. So in other words Watson no longer updates Sherlock. I mean. Right. Yeah. So Schmidt's also super religious quote as a man. This is the nightmare. Quote as a man the plight of pregnant rape and incest victims may be hypothetical to me but as a former
Starting point is 00:46:52 fetus the plight of a boarded innocent life is as real to me as rape is to most women. Did he try to just offend as much as possible. He's the worst. He's the worst person in the story in reproductive rights. Yeah. We bottomed out on this guy and he knows this all because he was in a womb and the rest of us were incubated in egg cells. Yeah. This guy was a former fetus. The rest of us were about the rest of us were born like morgue. Schmidt was also obsessed with Baron von Stuben. Sure. We all were. That's the butter right. Von Stuben fled Germany in the 1700s when he was going to be put on trial for homosexual
Starting point is 00:47:31 activities. OK. George Washington hired von Stuben as one of America's first private military contractors. What. He spent three months personally redesigning the note. Sorry. So he was early on a very early on. Von Stuben. Yeah. So Schmidt spent three months personally redesigning the inspector general's seal to include the von Stuben family motto. You say three months. Yeah. Always under the protection of the Almighty. He's really into von Stuben. I mean it's von Stuben. This is von Stuben behavior. Schmidt also asked for a new eagle. What is Schmidt doing. He's just a interior designer on the seal. Saying the old seal on the old
Starting point is 00:48:29 the eagle on the old seal look like a chicken. Oh my god. Oh my god. So this guy is just he's the best. He's got to be as an American as possible. On July 2004 Schmidt escorted Henning von Stuben head of the head of the von Stuben family association who was like oh it was crazy to get your phone call. We are like what the fuck is happening right now. Like seriously this is crazy to a Marine Corps event. Von Stuben we'd like to say you to say a few words. Well I still am not exactly sure what's happening but it's very nice for everyone to recognize Baron. He bought Henning von Stuben an $800 meal paid for by public funds. It's a
Starting point is 00:49:24 bald eagle. I'm gonna put this on the ethics critic. Don't worry it's my Chase ethics account. Do you have Chase ethics it's only in DC. He hired von Stuben's son to work as an intern. He's just like will I be a von Stuben one day. He's super a von Stuben. He did call off a $200,000 trip to attend a ceremony at a von Stuben statue in Germany though. But that was after a senator publicly questioned it. Okay I guess I'm hooked. I guess as the Inspector General I can't go to Germany for a statue reveal. $200,000. How? How do you spend that much money? I'm going to become the statue. It's a long process. I'm going through what a surgeon
Starting point is 00:50:14 in Germany is called von Stubening. So shit's closing and I'm just clearly everyone knows he's fucking on the take and he's a shithead. Right so it's time for him to flee to go to Germany. So just before Schmidt resigned and then all these accusations of protecting the war contractors he was supposed to be overseeing and allowing rampant corruption and cronyism to go unchecked he told the Department of Defense and White House quote I am disqualified from participation in any official matter that will have a direct and predictable effect on my financial interests of Blackwater USA because I intend to
Starting point is 00:50:49 discuss possible employment with them. Oh god. So he's overseeing the shit he's fully corrupt he's letting all this shit fucking go he's obsessed with von Stuben. He's just letting all his corruption go knowing he's gonna get hired by them. Right. I mean that is that that's exactly what happens in Congress and the Senate as well. Schmidt was then hired as the Prince Group's CEO and general counsel. This von Stuben obsessed bitch. Meanwhile Blackwater got more contracts from the State Department, the CEO of CIA and Department of Defense. They trained Afghan border agents, narcotic
Starting point is 00:51:28 officers for the DA and security at Athens Olympic Games. They opened offices in Baghdad. Amon, Jordan, Blackwater USA became Blackwater Worldwide. The company created affiliates, Blackwater Armor and Targets and Blackwater Security Consulting and Blackwater Canine to train police dog units. Oh cool. So finally. Down to the dogs. Yep. Jose, you want in? Yeah. You want some? You want some Blackwater Jose? And they got classified contracts. So they're just I mean just killing it. Yeah. For sure. As they should. They deserve it. Yep. The North Carolina location was expanded again. Good. A 65,000 foot,
Starting point is 00:52:09 65,000 square foot command center was built with door handles that look like 50 caliber machine gun barrels. Hey, hey, look Tarantino's directing now. He's attached. It's gonna be unbelievable. You're gonna love it. You're gonna love it. Hey, Jimmy, you want to go full cunt on these doors? Yeah, we're gonna go full C. So Hurricane Katrina hit New Orleans. Okay. I can't wait to see how they wanted Blackwater in the hurricane. No, Blackwater just went on their own. Oh cool, cool, cool. They got there before FEMA, the National Guard and the Red Cross. They have had over a hundred men and tons of supplies. Eric said they rescued a
Starting point is 00:52:45 hundred and twenty-one stranded people. And peaches. Which are peach people. And yeah, peach peoples, which is not at all confirmable and many say is not true. Well, yeah, but I mean. Now, because Blackwater just happened to be there and they look like one of the few authority forces that are there, except for the guys on the bridge shooting Black people. Well, you are, I mean, you are in a disaster zone. So it's like. They started getting contracts. Security for Bell South, guarding banks, industrial sites, power plants. Just by showing up, just by showing up. I mean, it's not a convention hall. Even the temporary morgue regarding.
Starting point is 00:53:21 They're just hired to guard everything. Even private homes. I think they're gonna get us, Dave. I think they're coming for us after this one. In January 2006, Eric spoke at West 2006, a massive conference of military commanders, weapons manufacturers, and dealers. How is that okay? That we have that? Any of that. Fucked up our society is like that. That's just a thing that happens and nobody goes away. What's and then you also like the biggest, the biggest clog in all of this is the idea that like, yeah, granted right now, we live in a time when there are a lot of like newspapers that are doing very well as far as getting
Starting point is 00:54:06 information to people that is valuable information and stuff like that. But this stuff, I mean, how does it how is this have no narrative? No traction, you know, like Jeremy, like that rare or like Matibe or something like that, like people who just like don't give a shit. So few. But but again, you think of like, I mean, I'd say like, you know, who knows the percentage of people that just get their news straight from television. But that's it. Yeah. So of course, you think there's only three things to talk about. Yeah. So at this conference, he says Blackwater was quicker and better than the US military. He went to he sent a guy
Starting point is 00:54:42 to a trade show in Jordan, where Blackwater was pitched as a force for hire in places like Dar four. Oh my God. So why didn't specify who could hire them? So journalists said the company could be a quote military hire for dictators, drug lords opposing governments because he didn't specify. So but why why? Okay, so why do we why if NFL players take a need of football game? Are they public enemy number one? And yet when you let Blackwater exist, and they're undercutting and talking shit on our military, does that not matter? If you're there now, you're going to break into a million pieces.
Starting point is 00:55:24 So later on, Eric said that they weren't there. They weren't going to work for dictators or drug lords. They were there for peacekeeping. And then he envisioned a relief team in which quote, everybody carries guns, just like Jeremiah rebuilding the temple in Israel, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. A sword in one hand and a trowel in the other. Okay. Here's it. Can I go ahead? You want to point out the difference? You want me to take it? No, that sounds like. No, he didn't have a gun, though. He what, he didn't have a gun, though. No, no. Jesus had, they didn't have a gun. Jesus had, um, he had a big silver. So wait, oh, I'm thinking I figured a dirty hair.
Starting point is 00:55:59 Are you telling me that Jesus turns water into wine and black water turns the swords into guns? Yes. Got it. So things kept looking up for black water in February 2006. Always like to hear that. Private contractors were officially recognized as part of the US military's total force. Okay.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Eric said the UN was inefficient and he could do it better. Wow. He's got some balls. He incorporated a company called Greystone which is registered in Barbados which was tax exempt. Yeah, no, of course. It was a privately trained 1700 man peacekeeping force with its own air force, helicopters, cargo ships and aerial surveillance, medical supply chain and combat group.
Starting point is 00:56:45 So he's now doing like subsidiaries of black water. Sure. Yeah, that's cool too. He held an opening party for Greystone for an embassy diplomats came, weapons manufacturers oil company reps of the international monetary fund. Where is this? They all enjoy themselves. They're in Barbados.
Starting point is 00:57:03 Right. Okay. Right. This is good times. Yeah. From the promo material, quote, Greystone is an international security services company that offers your country or organization a complete solution to your most pressing needs. So we have now just seeded a American company for hire that completely undercuts what we
Starting point is 00:57:26 are told our national interests. Oh yeah, 100%. But what we haven't been talking about is Eric's Christian beliefs during all this war profiteering. Because it feels like it's hard to negotiate that. Well, they don't make sense together at all. Eric was on the board of the Christian Freedom International Organization. Their mission statement, quote, more Christians have been martyred in the past 100 years than
Starting point is 00:57:51 in all prior 1900 years combined. Well, I also have always said that their organization has ignored reality more than any other organization in the last 100 years. And the persecution of Christians is growing. Today, more Christians are oppressed for their faith than ever. So they got upset when the UN called them merchants of misery. Do you have an extra mic if I throw this one through a mirror? Eric is also a member of the Council for National Policy, which was started in 1981 by
Starting point is 00:58:20 Reverend Tim LaHav, one of the founders of the modern right-wing Christian movement. He always believes in the LaHavs versus the LaHav notes. And author of the apocalyptic left-behind novels. Oh no, that guy! The left-behind guy? Yeah. Oh god. New York Times, quote, a little-known club of a few hundred of the most powerful conservatives
Starting point is 00:58:42 in the country, which has met by enclosed doors at undisclosed locations for a confidential conference three times a year to strategize about how to turn the country to the right. Membership has kept secret. Thank god that didn't happen. Yeah, right. For sure. We got that bullet. Blackwater NEXT formed, Chenega Blackwater Solutions.
Starting point is 00:59:03 What? The Chenega are an Alaskan Native American tribe made up of 69 people. Dave? Since it is a native-owned company, the Chenega can win special no-bid contracts. Oh. So, Eric teamed up with them. He just bribed the shit out of them. Gave them a bunch of fucking money.
Starting point is 00:59:21 A bunch of money and was like, look, I get it. People are fucking you over. This is bullshit. Can you believe what these people do to you? Anyway, join up with us. We'll give you a ton of money and then I can do whatever I want and I'll make way more than I'm giving you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:32 In September 2006, an Army Missile Command Base opened in Japan. Chenega Blackwater got the security contract. Blackwater NEXT opened up an 80-acre site in Illinois called Blackwater North. Back in Iraq on Christmas Eve 2006, a drunk Blackwater mercenary left a holiday party in the green zone. He encountered an Iraqi guard of the vice president. No one knows what happened, but the guard was shot and died. Blackwater quickly fired the mercenary for having a gun while drunk.
Starting point is 01:00:04 He forfeited his Christmas bonus and was sent back to the US but not prosecuted. Well, that's punishment. Yeah. The next year, he came back and worked for a different contracting company. That's not punishment. By the end of 2006, Donald Rumsfeld's dream had come true. Over 48,000 employees of the 181 private security companies were working in Iraq. Blackwater had brought in $1 billion in federal contracts and were 70% of security contract
Starting point is 01:00:38 personnel. Oh my God. In 2007, Peter Singer published The Dark Truth About Blackwater. He concluded private military contractors hurt the US in Iraq. Their private mission is different from the public operation. For instance, those on escort duty are just about getting a client from point A to point B, not whether they win Iraqi hearts and minds along the way. So you basically have two different forces doing two different things, one undermining
Starting point is 01:01:25 the military. Also, if you're a citizen of one of these nations where this is all going on, how are you not confused as to what the mission is? You know what Blackwater is, but you also know you're already on an occupation. No one likes a fucking occupying military. No, but now you've got- Let's not act like the military is all fucking top-notch and fucking awesome anyway. No, but now you've got-
Starting point is 01:01:48 But now you have a worse military within the military. Right, exactly, yeah. So one of Eric's dreams was also bigger, nicer bases with fast food franchises on them, which happened in Iraq and brought in more money at the same time and created a force that was even more disconnected from the locals, because previous wars maybe they had to go out and get food or they had to interact more, but now they're really isolated except when they go out to do fucking missions. With these guys, there's no interacting with the people, except to shoot them on the road.
Starting point is 01:02:22 And it also makes it seem like a long-term occupation when you're building giant bases with fast food franchises. Sure, yeah. No, if you throw a Taco Bell in there, you're sticking. And then bigger bases require more stuff, which puts more Khan voice on the road, which leads to more conflict, which angers the locals and creates more insurgents, right? Good business though, right? More insurgents, better business, I would say, under the Blackwater model.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Well that's the problem, is they have no interest in the war ending because they can- Why would they? They're a protective service. Yeah, it's a private protective service. They would lose money if the war ends, like they're just insane. For sure. Chaos allows security to make more money. An Iraqi Interior Ministry official quote, they consider Iraqis like animals, although
Starting point is 01:03:07 actually I think they may have more respect for animals. We have seen what they do in the streets, when they're not shooting, they're throwing water bottles at people and calling them names. Oh my god. If you are terrifying a child or an elderly woman, or you are killing an innocent civilian who is riding in his car, isn't that terrorism? Yes. Yeah, oh yeah.
Starting point is 01:03:27 Yeah. Yep. Yep. So he answered that. The Defense Contract Audit Agency identified more than $10 billion in unsupported or questionable costs from contractors, $10 billion. The Special Inspector General for Iraq Reconstruction called Corruption the Second Insurgency in Iraq, Halliburton overcharged the US government $2.2 billion.
Starting point is 01:03:51 It seems like nothing now. It's also weird because I feel like there might be a guy who was working in the government who used to work for Halliburton. Dave, stop. Stop. Good lord. Is this the Cheney thing again? Let him have one.
Starting point is 01:04:08 The guy is staying alive by basically pumping his foot. So the families of the men killed in Fallujah, those guys who lost their, those litigious folk continue their fight against Blackwater and contacted Democrats in Congress. A congressional investigation concluded the four men had been sent into Fallujah quote without sufficient preparation or resources and support. In May 2007, Blackwater mercenaries killed the driver of a passing car. The driver allegedly refused to follow Blackwater hand signals and the yelling of stop in Arabic. So they shot into his windshield.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Now Iraq's basically in and all at civil war at this point, nobody could agree on how many people were being killed, militant, staged, sophisticated ambushes against Blackwater convoys. And it's September 16th, 2007, a Blackwater team guarding a US diplomat decided to evacuate him because a car bomb had gone off nearby. A motorcade of 19 men called Raven 23 arrived at Niswar Square or Nisour. I'm sure it's not Nisour. No, but still, it's nice to try.
Starting point is 01:05:20 It's a big crowded traffic circle with entrances and exits right to this big fucking crazy situation. Yeah, yeah. So driving, driving the right way through traffic is slower and it's also a perfect place for an ambush. So the armored vehicles drove counter to the way the traffic is going in the circle to get through faster. An Iraqi officer comes out on ways for the cars to stop to let them through.
Starting point is 01:05:44 But a white Kia sedan doesn't stop. So the guys in Raven 23 opened fire and killed the driver, who was a 20 year old kid who was driving his mother to walk. She's a doctor, but he's driving his mom, his doctor mom to work. Now the car keeps moving because the driver is dead and dead people can't hit the brakes. Okay. You're right. So.
Starting point is 01:06:09 So they shoot the mom. Oh my God. Why? Because the dead guy wouldn't stop the car. So what? Oh my God. And then they started shooting everything and they called in helicopters that came and started shooting a 20 minute gunfight with basically nobody.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And then the black water motorcade left. No black water men were injured. Quote, the destruction left behind was incredible. Trees, electric poles and structures at the southern end of the square have been riddled with bullets. Car upon car had been savaged. More than three dozen Iraqi civilians had been shot, 17 killed. The battalion commander overseeing military operations in the area said, quote, I did
Starting point is 01:06:55 not see anything that indicated the contractors were fired upon. The military report concluded there was no enemy activity involved and called it a criminal event. Wow. Now public opinion was not good because it usually in massacres, it's not. You go against the massacring party. Yeah, most when there's a massacre, usually massacring, not the massacre. Yeah, people aren't like, yeah, massacre.
Starting point is 01:07:20 Yeah. All right. You really did that. Al Jazeera, quote, an army that seeks fame, fortune and thrill away from all considerations and ethics of military honor. The employees are known for their roughness. They are famous for shooting indiscriminately at vehicles or pedestrians who get close to their convoys.
Starting point is 01:07:38 Blackwater was then compared to Al Qaeda in the Muslim world. There's something you don't hear very often. No. We didn't get that one on the news. Probably resonate here. Eric said his men followed policy and the vehicles had no bullet damage because they immediately fixed them since that's what the State Department's thousand page rulebook said to do.
Starting point is 01:07:59 I mean, it's a lot of BS. A lot of fluff too, a lot of padding. But the mercenaries were not happy about what went down, not three, sorry, three mercenaries were not happy about what went down. One report said a contractor was yelling no, no, no at his fellow Blackwater guards to stop them from firing. And some reports said one mercenary had to point a gun at another Blackwater mercenary to get him to stop shooting at civilians.
Starting point is 01:08:27 Blackwater's license to operate in Iraq was suspended for five days. So this shutdown, because everything is relying on Blackwater to move people back and forth, right? So it shuts down all U.S. diplomatic efforts, reconstruction, intelligence operations. The five day suspension? Because Blackwater is who guards. They've been Blackwaters that in the blood. They guard everybody.
Starting point is 01:08:53 They're at point eight. We've now allowed them to be that important. They're that important. I mean, they really are the Uber Army. They really are. The FBI was brought in to investigate. Condoleezza Rice started begging the Iraqis to not kick out Blackwater. Blackwater then shut down its website and declined all interviews.
Starting point is 01:09:14 A couple of weeks later, they sent out an email, quote, the civilians reportedly fired upon by Blackwater professionals were in fact armed enemies. Then the website came back up as if nothing had happened. What back, baby? Hey, what'd you guys decide to do? Say fuck it. Yeah, we came up with a statement. What's the statement?
Starting point is 01:09:34 It's a lie. We said go fuck yourself. Hey, we're loading. Some Raven 23 member made a deal and pled guilty to manslaughter, attempted manslaughter and aiding and abetting. And then he said he would testify. Eric put out a statement, quote, Blackwater is extremely disappointed and surprised to learn that an individual, independent contractor has said he committed wrongdoing and no criminal
Starting point is 01:09:57 violations occurred again to be clear. Five men were charged with 14 counts of voluntary manslaughter, 20 counts of attempted manslaughter, among other crimes. Eric said the men were, quote, sacrificed by the State Department. A 2007 defense bill put the contractors under the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which many say is unconstitutional. So Eric testified before Congress. The PR powerhouse Burson Marsteller prepared him, the CEO of Burson Marsteller at the time
Starting point is 01:10:29 was a top campaign consultant to the Hillary Clinton campaign. Our representative, Dana Rohrbacher, said Eric was, quote, on his way to being an American hero just like Ollie North. Oh, what a hero. What a legendary hero. Good God. It's insane. It's insane.
Starting point is 01:10:52 We're insane. These are insane people. I mean. These are fucking insane people. Blackwater kept moving ahead, looking to open Blackwater West, which would start working with border control to stop drug smuggling. Oh, God. They found a 124-acre plot in a town called Petrero close to the border, and residents
Starting point is 01:11:12 of Petrero held rallies and protested against Blackwater. In 2007, the Department of Defense renewed and expanded Blackwater's contract with a four-year, $92 million deal for aviation services in Afghanistan, Kazakhstan, Pakistan, and Uzbekistan. I mean, they are genuinely getting like Aaron Rodgers' contract numbers. Yeah. It's fucking crazy. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:34 Four-year, $92 million. I mean. Wait. Million or billion? Million. Okay. That's what I thought. No, not billion.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Blackwater now had over 50 government contracts, bringing in $600 million a year. Oh, my God. Holy shit. They had 2,000 contractors in 20 different countries, 40 aircraft, and armored. This is so clearly against the interests of the country. Yes. For sure. They had a personnel carrier production line, and an 183 repurposed NOAAH, so they took
Starting point is 01:12:05 an old scientific vessel and turned it into a war vehicle. Oh, no. They still trained more than 25,000 people each year in North Carolina. The Center for Constitutional Rights filed a suit for the victims in the square against Blackwater. Finally, Susan Burke described Eric as, quote, a modern-day merchant of death. Yeah. There we go.
Starting point is 01:12:31 She said Eric and Blackwater were liable for committing war crimes and summary execution. Eric testified for seven hours. He criticized the FBI's handling of the investigation, quote, it seems the ballistic analysis was done to prove the guilt of Americans, not to just try to identify what happened there. Right. Well, only number one, you fucking got rid of it, you dickbag, but number two, there were no shots fired at them. But it is now, we are now in that simple of a situation, where it is that simple, where
Starting point is 01:13:04 you literally just say the thing that you're doing, the other person's doing, they say you did it, and then everyone's like, well, we're not sure. Yeah. The UN then released a two-hour, a two-year study concluding private contractors were performing military duties even though they were hired as security. So now the UN's investigating, they found that these guys are literally being mercenaries. The report found that the use of contractors like Blackwater was a, quote, new form of mercenary activity and illegal under international law.
Starting point is 01:13:36 Thankfully, the United States did not sign the 1989 UN Mercenary Convention banning the use of mercenaries. Well, good. Good. Good. The UN law. Blackwater is illegal. And it's legal under US, it's legal because the US did not sign that.
Starting point is 01:13:53 Yeah. Susan Burke filed five additional lawsuits against Blackwater. One brought by four Iraqis alleged, quote, Mr. Prince was well aware that his men, including his top executives in North Carolina, viewed shooting innocent Iraqis as sport. Those who killed and wounded innocent Iraqis tended to rise higher in Mr. Pence's organization than those who opided by the rule of law. Now, let's remember, Eric's mentor, Nixon's hatchet man guy, was a boring Christian who hated Muslims.
Starting point is 01:14:30 Eric hates Muslims. So Eric totally just ran, clearly. One whistleblowers said, Eric, quote, views himself as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims. Oh, shit. I mean, it is truly on this level of fucking crazy. Yeah. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:14:47 Oh, it's a crusade in his mind. He's a Christian. You're sending him into a, what do you fucking think it is? I miss when I thought it was corruption four minutes ago, purely. If you have a militaristic Christian, then it's a fucking crusade when he goes into a place like this. It's a fucking crusade. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:15:06 Dave. Eric, as a Christian crusader tasked with eliminating Muslims and the Islamic faith from the globe. Oh my God. And that Eric. That's a whistleblower. And that Eric's companies, quote, encouraged and rewarded the destruction of Iraqi life. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:15:21 A suit also said one employee photographed a. How count, I mean, a fuck. Okay. Sorry. A suit also said one employee photographed a blackwater executive packing illegal weapons for shipment to Iraq. The employee mysteriously died soon after two whistleblowers confirmed this. Eric admitted to packing weapons in dog food, but said it was to prevent theft by corrupt
Starting point is 01:15:45 government inspectors, not smuggling. Wait, the Iraqis are corrupt. So you got to pack shit in dog food or else they'll take it. When you're admitting that you're packing weapons and dog food. Can we admit that things are a little off track? The whistleblower sued alleging blackwater defrauded the government by over billing and billing for unqualified workers. The suit said blackwater put a sex worker in Afghanistan on the payroll as part of a,
Starting point is 01:16:14 quote, moral welfare recreation. So moral, yeah, welfare recreation, wait, that's how they are. That was how they put the escort, the sex worker on the Christian. That's how the Christian put the sex worker on the payroll. So it's terminology. It's just you got to come up with the right terms. One former employer said, quote, Mr. Prince and his employees murdered or had murdered one or more persons who have provided information or who were planning to provide information
Starting point is 01:16:54 to the federal authorities about the ongoing criminal conduct. And, quote, on more than one occasion, Mr. Prince and his top managers gave orders to destroy emails and other documents. Many incriminating videotapes documents and emails have been shredded and destroyed. He also said, quote, on several occasions after my departure from Mr. Prince's employee, Mr. Prince's management has personally threatened me with death and violence. Well, of course they have because they're fucking mercenaries and they're XCA guys. And that's how they get away with it and how they operate, how they roll.
Starting point is 01:17:29 I mean, yeah. The judge throughout most of the allegations. This is very frightening stuff, Dave. Yeah, we might get killed. The judge throughout most of the allegations and a jury found for Blackwater and the remaining allegations. A jury. In the fall of 2008, the stoning of Soraya M. premiered.
Starting point is 01:17:48 The film is based on the true story of an Iranian woman stoned by her neighbors after refusing to give her husband a divorce. The stoning is brutal. The director said, quote, I wanted people to never forget what a stoning really is. So it's a lengthy, brutal stoning on video. The film was financed by a man named Eric Prince. What? On December 31st, 2009, a U.S. district judge dismissed all charges against the four guards
Starting point is 01:18:18 being prosecuted for the massacre in Niswar Square. Right. A motivated, unarmed massacre. On the grounds that the case against the Blackwater guards had been improperly built on testimony given in exchange for immunity, which is how almost all fucking American cases are. And January 1st, 2009, on January 1st, 2009, a new status of forces agreement between the U.S. and Iraq when in effect.
Starting point is 01:18:46 So there were an occupying force. So to be there, Iraq has rules for us to be there. And that it's called the status of forces agreement, it was coming up for renegotiation and to be redone. And this was when Bush was in office. So they renegotiated it with Bush. Immediately when it went into effect, Iraqi officials declared they would not issue Blackwater a license to continue to operate in Iraq.
Starting point is 01:19:18 Weird. The State Department canceled Blackwater's work. Eric blamed Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, even though the agreement had happened under Bush. Right. Well, still. I mean, come on. It's obvious who did it.
Starting point is 01:19:33 For his part, Obama just moved Blackwater contractors to Afghanistan, doubling the number of forces under Bush there. Obama, quote, this push must be joined by a dramatic increase in our civilian effort. These were exactly the private contractors Obama had been campaigning against using while he ran for president. In February, due to all the past bad PR, Blackwater changed its name to Zee Services, XZ. So they're French?
Starting point is 01:20:08 Yeah. Zee Services, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee, Zee Services. Companies like Raytheon wanted deniability, so they could hire Zee and later claim we didn't know it was Blackwater. So I mean, it is that simple. It's that simple. It's that simple. It's a name change.
Starting point is 01:20:34 It's a name change and no one, because of like what you said, the only guy lack of attention that we have to give to things. That is enough. Well, how many guys are reporting on it? Fuckin' Skahill, Glenn Greenwald, maybe a couple others. So of course no one would have fucking known if it says a different name. The North Carolina campus was renamed the U.S. Training Center Incorporate. Eric Prince announced his resignation as CEO on March 2, 2009.
Starting point is 01:20:59 He remained chairman of the board, but was out of day-to-day operations. In months, nine vice presidents, half of them all, and 16 directors left Zee. Some were asked to go, others resigned. The company kept operating in North Carolina, training 20,000 law enforcement officers. There were 1,575 contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan. Zee also worked for companies like Monsato, Chevron, The Walt Disney Company, Royal Caribbean Cruise Lines, and Baking Giant's Deutsche Bank and Barclays, all great companies. In June 2009, CIA director Leon Panetta met in a closed session with the House and Senate
Starting point is 01:21:46 Intelligence Committees about a covert action program that the CIA had concealed from Congress. Panetta said he had just learned of it the day before and shut it down. Eric and Blackwater were key participants in the program. This was all leaked to the press. So it turns out the CIA had recruited Eric Prince to join a secret network of U.S. citizens with special skills or unusual access to targets of interest. So these are people they think have a special set of skills and an important set of skills. We don't know how many Blackwater people were directly involved with the CIA.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Several ex-Blackwater guards told the New York Times, quote, their involvement in the operation became so routine that the lines dividing the CIA, the military, and Blackwater became blurred. The CIA had a secure telephone line and sensitive compartmented information facility at Blackwater's headquarters. That's one of those you can't hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's, I mean, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 01:22:52 That's an advantage just for the CIA. So like, we'd love to make phone calls from there. You got a code of silence, we're in. Eric allegedly participated in an Al Qaeda assassination program. In the 1970s, President Ford issued executive orders that forbid assassinations after the CIA had tried to kill like a bunch of world leaders doing their thing. Right, yeah. But the CIA really wanted to assassinate people again.
Starting point is 01:23:20 They were like, this is our fucking jam. It was fun. This is our shit. It's good. Eric ended up shelling out his own money to make assassination squads, which he trained at his home instead of at Blackwater. Oh, no. But like in the movies, people in DC wouldn't pull the trigger when they had a chance to
Starting point is 01:23:37 kill someone. Well, same as in the movies, right? It's like right out of the fucking movie, right? Frustrated, Eric and an XCI man made plans to create privatized hit squads. Jesus Christ. Eric, quote, we were building a unilateral, unattributable capability. If it went bad, we weren't expecting the chief of station, the ambassador or anyone to bail us out.
Starting point is 01:23:59 It's straight out of a fucking shitty movie. This is, you are talking about assassination squads? Yeah. I mean, Dave, his sister is in charge of education. This is now. Yeah. Damn. It's fine.
Starting point is 01:24:18 It's fine. But Obama pulled the plug on the whole thing. At least Jose is able to sleep. Oh, thank God. That is a good statement to hear. Eric was also involved in extraordinary renditions. Working with the CIA, working with the CIA, Blackwater flew terror suspects from Guantanamo to Pakistan, Afghanistan and Uzbekistan, where they were brutally tortured.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Oh, and Eric was involved in drone strikes to kill Al Qaeda and Taliban leaders. Through Obama, drone attacks were dramatically expanded. Zay services won the contract. The company also guarded the drone bases. So they're putting the bombs on the drones, arming them. The company is also guarding the bases. The CIA terminated Zay's drone operations contract in 2009 after it was leaked that they were involved.
Starting point is 01:25:13 Someone was like, that's Blackwater. Oh, that. No, that's Zay. That's Zay. Are you sure? It's like when Radio Shack just became the shack. But the CIA renewed Zay's contract in 2010 to provide security for operatives in the field.
Starting point is 01:25:29 Sure. Good. Eric blamed congressional Democrats for the leaks and says there is a double standard. There is. You ready? Yeah. Quote. The left complained about how CIA operative Valerie Plain's identity was compromised for
Starting point is 01:25:43 political reasons. Okay. I'm ready for this. Well, what happened to me was worse. Oh, really? Air Bear. People acting for political reasons disclose not only the existence of a very sensitive program, but my name along with it.
Starting point is 01:25:58 Because you create a drone assassination squad. You anus. Eric said he was put on an Al Qaeda hit list. Good. Yeah, of course. Good. Of course you were. And that forced him to take extensive security precautions for his family.
Starting point is 01:26:18 In March 2010, Eric's prints sold aviation worldwide services, which included 73 aircraft and this is what he's built up with this 73 aircraft and 700 men. A month later, a federal grand jury issued a 15 count indictment against Blackwater's former president and four other executives charging they conspired to skirt federal weapons loss. This is from that thing before the whistleblowers. They really wanted Eric Prince. That was the target.
Starting point is 01:26:46 The prosecution said Blackwater got the Camden County Sheriff's Department says North Carolina to buy automatic weapons. So they there it is. They could buy automatic weapons, but but they couldn't. They had to go through the channels. So they were getting the yeah, right. They gave the King of Jordan several firearms and falsified paperwork to cover it up. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:27:07 They shipped illy weapons to Iraq and dog food. Blackwater said they had to hide the guns because crept Iraqis would take them. By 2010, Blackwater was shelling out 2 million a month in legal bills. In April 2011, a US federal appeals court reinstated the manslaughter charges against the four guards who had killed the Iraqis in the square. Nice. I like how it's manslaughter. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:31 In 2012, Blackwater settled a lawsuit filed by six of the victims for an undisclosed sum. And in February 2013, the government's prosecution collapsed. Charges against the three of the Blackwater executives were dismissed. And two others agreed to plead guilty to reduced misdemeanor charges for faulty record keeping. No jail. For faulty record keeping? No jail. Blackwater paid a 42 million penalty to the State Department for violating arm export laws.
Starting point is 01:28:06 One senior prosecution official said the Obama administration continuing to award contracts to former Blackwater companies while the case was going on against Blackwater is what killed the case. He compared the Blackwater empire to a drug syndicate and said prosecutors should not get anyone under Eric Prince to testify against Eric Prince. This is very much the concern. You push the buttons on the company, but the main bad guy gets away and does it again. No criminal charges were filed against Eric.
Starting point is 01:28:41 Yeah, it's like a tapeworm. Yeah. We've got to get it by its damn head. Put milk in front of his mouth and then. No, you don't even need to be milk. It's just some kind of little treat. Yeah. So you put a treat in front of Eric like a.
Starting point is 01:28:52 Yeah, you put a little treat in front of Eric's mouth and then the satanic demon that's taken over this otherwise gorgeous. Wonderful. Christian pious vehicle is finally we can finally rip the demon out and then Eric and then Eric Dave will realize the error of his ways. Yeah. Yeah. Eric's old day services to a Los Angeles based consortium in December 2010 and the company
Starting point is 01:29:17 became Academy. Eric kept ownership of the Blackwater trademark and the bear paw logo. I wonder why he couldn't. He wouldn't sorry. He wouldn't rule out not using it again, right? He then moved to Abu Dhabi, Abu Dhabi in the United Arab Emirates. Oh boy. Is an autocracy that looks modern compared to the insane Saudi Arabia.
Starting point is 01:29:45 Yeah. And by that I mean women are allowed to drive. Right. Oh, but they have Sharia law. So Eric remained in a Virginia resident taxpayer while I lived there and then he got to work. He brought Colombians into United Arab Emirates posing as construction workers. Okay. They were actually soldiers for an 800 man secret mercenary arming Eric was building
Starting point is 01:30:08 for the crown prince of Abu Dhabi. Oh my God. Raising an army for a wealthy Muslim sheik is obviously very Christian. Mercenaries were to conduct special operations inside and outside of the UEA, defend from terrorist attacks and put down internal revolts. A former Australian army officer was publicly listed as commander of what was called the presidential guard. Oh my God.
Starting point is 01:30:37 One reason for the Colombians and other foreigners was that Eric Prince has a strict rule. Hire no Muslims because Muslim soldiers could not be counted on to kill fellow Muslims. Because that's never happened. That's a tenet. At October 2011, Obama announced quote, the last American soldiers will cross the border out of Iraq with their heads held high proud of their success. Big news and total fucking bullshit. As you now know, American soldiers are not private contractors.
Starting point is 01:31:22 Obama actually was leaving an army sized division of mercenaries behind. The U.S. has not left Iraq and will not be doing so for the foreseeable future. We have built the largest embassy in the world in Baghdad. On October 2014, a federal jury convicted one of the shooters from the square. Okay, we're getting there. That's like seven years later. Give me something. Give me something.
Starting point is 01:31:46 I'm hungry. He's convicted of first degree murder. The three other guards were committed of voluntary manslaughter and using a machine gun to commit a violent crime. I mean, that's quite a thing to say. The murder got life in prison. The others got 30 years. Eric kept on being Eric.
Starting point is 01:32:05 He founded Frontier Resource Group, a logistic and transportation company based in Hong Kong. Here we go. Let's find out how awful this is. Because it sounds adorable. If anyone else was in charge, it doesn't sound nefarious. The largest investor was the Chinese government's biggest state-owned investment firm. Eric then traveled to at least a half a dozen countries to offer private military forces.
Starting point is 01:32:35 He met with Libyan officials, which is under a bunch of UN and defense restrictions. Eric went to Nigeria and he met with President Goodluck Jonathan and offered a $1.5 billion proposal to wipe out Boko Haram. Wow. Everywhere, he was trying to sell modified small aircraft to be used militarily. What this results in as far as worldwide warfare... It's chaos. I mean, it's just...
Starting point is 01:33:12 It's all for fucking money. It's... FRG's leadership objected to what Eric was doing. Several FRG colleagues said he was using his role as chairman to offer blackwater-like services to foreign governments. These were services FRG could not handle because it lacked the capacity, expertise, and legal authority to do so. They were not set up to do any of this, but he was just going out and selling them as
Starting point is 01:33:36 a military. Oh, shit. They're not that. They're like this, like I said, a transportation and logistic, like they're not... The guys who are there are like, we don't do that. So it starts this internal fucking thing at the company. Then the board was told it was shifting into security services to assist China's international development policy.
Starting point is 01:34:00 This disgusted two American executives, CEO Greg Smith, and retired Admiral William Fallon, a frontier board member. They both quit. One said, quote, Eric's a rogue chairman. Eric wants to be a real no shit mercenary. He's off the rails exposing many US citizens to criminal liabilities. Eric hides in the shadow and uses FSG for legitimacy. There's an internal struggle at FSG.
Starting point is 01:34:28 In 2005, FSG retained, so I think there's a president guy there, whatever, the Smith guy, retains the law firm King and Spalding to conduct a review of the company's legal exposure to violations of US law on weapons sales and the export of defense services to foreign governments. Uh-huh, what they find. So someone in the company is asking you a law firm to check to see if Eric is committed. Right, right. And they've got to be like, well, yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:56 Specifically Eric tried to make a deal with Azerbaijan's Ministry of Defense for several American crop dusters that he had secretly modified into attack and surveillance aircraft. Oh, my God. But now it seems that he's super fucking low rent, right? Yeah, no, it is like sad, but it's, but it's, it's, it's not even sad, it's just nickel and diamond. Yeah. It's like the, the upside is no longer there.
Starting point is 01:35:21 Yeah. It's like heroin was great at first, but now I've got to shoot it in between my toes and it's not even good junk. He used to be working with fucking drones and I was like, hey, man, I can, I can fit a crop duster. Do you need me? Let me give you two crop dusters. Two crop dusters, okay.
Starting point is 01:35:33 Two crop dusters. Okay. And what I'm going to do is I'm going to outfit the crop dusters. Okay. And then, oh, by the way, I got skateboards. I got skateboards. And they got Roman candles on the back. And when you ride them downhill, you're going to look like you're on a goddamn spaceship.
Starting point is 01:35:44 Okay. Come on. I'll suck your dick if you buy fireworks for me. I will suck your fucking cock if you buy fireworks for me. I got to crush your mouth. Come on. Come on. Come on.
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Starting point is 01:36:25 Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. Come on. of FSG concluded no one in the Justice Department, this is Obama's Justice Department at the
Starting point is 01:36:37 time, wanted to deal with this until the election was over, so they want to punt it. Oh, by the way, in 2017, James Comey was pushed out as FBI Director and Chris Ray took over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, good. Well, maybe. Do you think? Well, okay. Okay.
Starting point is 01:37:02 The US started investigating Eric. Eric was heard discussing opening bank accounts in China to help Libyan associates. Isn't he already on the outs? No, because all they do is tell the Justice Department. People are investigating him, but okay. He did open the accounts and he got help from Chinese intelligence to open the accounts for Libyans. Later that year, Academy once again reached a weak settlement with the Justice Department
Starting point is 01:37:29 to pay a fine. This time, $7.5 million for, quote, unauthorized sales of satellite phones in Sudan. Academy is another one of the side groups. That's the Blackwater Turn into Z, Turn into the Academy. Right, okay, right, right. That's what I thought. Unauthorized sales of satellite phones in Sudan, unauthorized military training provided to foreign governments, including Canada's illegal possession.
Starting point is 01:37:50 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. I didn't expect to hear the C word. It's just frigging insane. What are they doing? I don't know. We need you to make the Mounties evil. Illegal possession of automatic weapons and other violations. Attempt to bring criminal charges against Eric once again failed.
Starting point is 01:38:11 At some point, Eric decided to stop keeping a low profile. So he's been doing this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Under Obama, he's kind of flying out of the radar. No, no, yeah. He's more visual now, yeah. Ever since the, ever since the shit about Blackwater came out public, the, the Nuzri Square attacks the massacre.
Starting point is 01:38:30 He's keeping a low profile. He's trying to keep it on the DL. Well, those are fun headlines. Eric decides to stop keeping low profile and starts appearing on Bret Bart radio. Okay. He was clearly trying to send someone a message. He told Steve Bannon that Trump should recreate a version of the Phoenix program, a CIA assassination ring that operated during the Vietnam War to fight ISIS.
Starting point is 01:38:57 The program would kill or capture, quote, the funders of Islamic terror. And that would even be the wealthy radical Islamist billionaires funding it from the Middle East. He's talking about going after the Saudi fucking princes and shit. Like he's talking about going way deep into like that shit. Eric donated $100,000 to the Trump victory committee, a pack run by Rebecca Mercer. Eric's mother gave $50,000. Eric became a frequent guest at Trump Tower.
Starting point is 01:39:36 He backed Trump's proposal to make two million barrels of Iraq's daily oil to take, I mean, so I remember that almost so we'll take their oil. He called it, quote, doable, very plausible. Even before the election, Eric said the NYPD was about to arrest Hillary Clinton, but it was stopped by the Justice Department. Do you remember that? No. You remember that was a big thing.
Starting point is 01:39:57 Apparently, Hillary had been to a sex island with a convicted pedophile at least six times. His claims were displayed on Bret Bart and all over right wing websites. On election night, Eric and his new wife, Stacey DeLuke, I don't know what happened to Joanna. Okay. Yeah. Sure. They were inside Trump's campaign headquarters.
Starting point is 01:40:21 Wow. There's a picture on election night of Eric, Pence and Trump with their families. Eric was described as a member of, quote, a kind of shadow transition team. He was advising the Trump team on matters related to intelligence and defense, including weighing in on candidates for the defense and state departments. In December. My head's shaking for listening to that. It has been for about 30 minutes.
Starting point is 01:40:49 In December, Frontier Services Group issued a press release that outlined plans to open, quote, a forward operating base in China's Yunnan province and another in the Zinyang province region, home to the mostly Muslim Uyghur minority. So those are the ones that are being severely fucking attacked by the Chinese government. In January, it was reported China was holding 120,000 Uyghurs in reeducation camps. Oh my God. Former associates of Eric said he wants to use the bases to train and deploy an army of Chinese.
Starting point is 01:41:24 No. What? No. Oh my God, Dave, what is going on? I mean, is there a, is there a mercenary rehab camp, like is there a Malibu rehab place for people who can't stop being mercenaries? You mean promises? Former associates of Eric said he wants to use the bases to train and deploy an army
Starting point is 01:41:48 of Chinese retired soldiers who can protect Chinese corporate and government strategic interests around the world. Without having to involve the Chinese people's liberation army. So we, I mean, we are, I mean, this, it is, this, armies are calves. He's doing to China. Uber is this. What he did to America. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:10 He is now creating like side game. It's massive chaos. Quote, he's been working very, very hard to get China to buy into a new Blackwater. He's hell bent on reclaiming his position as the world's preeminent private military provider. US law prohibits the export of military services or equipment to China. Yeah. But let me give.
Starting point is 01:42:37 In first 2017, Eric wrote an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal. He should not be doing that called quote, the MacArthur model for Afghanistan. He listed five things Trump needs to do to fix the quote, expensive disaster that is Afghanistan. You're not going to believe this. It involves privatization. Oh, shockingly. Eric seemed to have become emboldened by Trump's presidency.
Starting point is 01:43:02 He shows no apparent concern that the FBI Justice Department may be pursuing him because they probably are not. A couple of weeks ago, Eric and Oliver North hosted a fundraiser at Eric's home in Virginia for California Republican Representative Dana Rohrbacher. Oh my God. All of this while he has become a central figure in the investigation of possible collusion between Trump and Russia, Eric testified before the House Intelligence Committee in November about his alleged efforts to establish a secret back channel between Trump and Russia during
Starting point is 01:43:37 a meeting. Oh, I didn't even know that was them. And I don't know how to say this. I thought it was, I had no idea this country existed. I thought it was a, when I first read it, I thought it was a Greek city, Sekely's. It's an African nation. But anyway, that meeting was to occur in January 2017. Eric denies it.
Starting point is 01:43:55 In August 2017, the US Court of Appeals threw out the murder conviction of one of the shooters in Nasri Square, I mean, this is quite a roller coaster and ordered the other mercenaries to be res sentenced. None of them has been set free, but they are currently not sentenced to those. Okay. There are currently more than 23,000 private contractors in Afghanistan and upwards of 5,000 in Iraq. Today, Eric Prince is working for China while simultaneously advising Donald Trump, the
Starting point is 01:44:27 president of the United States of America. That's where you turn your little iPad off, huh? Wow, dude. That is so much worse than I could have imagined. To me, like Blackwater was a thing that I knew was a private military force that seemed like it got way more money than anyone in the army. That's what's so hard to sort of bridge is the idea that this whole idea of supporting troops and supporting the army and supporting the military is now such a difficult thing
Starting point is 01:45:16 to do when you allow this sort of thing, like a mercenary force. If there's a war, which I'm opposed to all these fucking things, but so say there is a war and you have soldiers who are government soldiers who are doing a job and next to them you have these super high paid guys who have no rules apply to, then what does that tell the soldiers about what they're doing? And then on top of that, are you not going to then pilfer the best soldiers to come to work for the mercenary? It's the most fucked up, like Rumsfeld, Cheney, Bush, Powell, Rice are the dumbest motherfuckers
Starting point is 01:46:03 on the face, the most corrupt, stupidest pieces of shit that ever existed in this country. And you should also not allow yourself to fall prey to this idea now more than ever after hearing that, that these people are enviable people in the world that we live in now, that because of Trump you miss Bush or you miss these people, because it truly is, it's the person who pulls the thread. These are the people who pull the thread that allow what is probably about to start happening in the next couple years that allowed it to happen. This motherfucker needs to be taken down immediately, immediately because the chaos that he's going
Starting point is 01:46:43 to fucking create coming out of China, we cannot handle as a worker. I mean, god damn dude, we are just... It's bad enough weird that way. I know, I know, right. You do that, you have other countries behaving that way. I mean, we have to be real. Not even if it blows smoke, I mean non-smokers. This all has to be real then, we have to reel this in, but holy fuck, if other countries
Starting point is 01:47:00 start doing this, and then who knows, they probably already are. But man, I mean imagine China doing the same thing that we're fucking doing. You and I have talked about, what is that three hour documentary with that English guy who narrates it that we both... Hyper normalization. Hyper normalization. When you watch that, what you see are the seeds of how things, the great undoing of things. The first time there's a suicide bombing.
Starting point is 01:47:26 All these things that are just like someone thought of them and then someone did them, and then now it's so prevalent and it creates so much violence and chaos, and it's stuff like this that is just going to continue to do that. It's these little things, when you hear about them, that 10, 15 years later you're like, why do we have private military force training with a guy who influences the president? Why is he allowed to go be a door-to-door salesman for chaos? Really, he's a door-to-door salesman for chaos. I mean, Jesus Christ, fucking Jonathan Good, fucking mouth or whatever his name is, what's
Starting point is 01:48:04 that guy's name? I mean, Jesus Christ, being in business with that fucking guy, like he will sell anything to anyone. Yeah, no, it really is. I mean, he says he's a fucking Christian, and on top of that all, it's the crazy American Christian thing. I know. They're out of their fucking minds.
Starting point is 01:48:23 How do they allow it? They have nothing to do with Christianity. How do they allow it? How do you allow it? Nothing. I mean, this is just the, oh fuck, dude, you and I need to go fight outside, but this is just, this is, it is the great hollowing, it is the great hollowing. We are now at the point where we care so much more about looking into the goddamn phone
Starting point is 01:48:43 than the fact that so shortly we are going to have this shit under the, oh fuck. And what's funny is is that if you, what's funny is is that if you bring this kind of stuff up to people, they look at you like you're a crazy person. Well, I guarantee you a lot of people are going to listen to the reaction we're having and probably think that it sounds a little like, but this is what he's doing. Yeah, I know. If you told people this, they'd be like, well, they're looking at you like you have a fucking shit for the head on.
Starting point is 01:49:06 For sure. For sure, yeah. This is reality. It's fucking insane. Happening. Happening. And also at some point we don't, I mean, we're already probably there, but you can't put this back in a bottle like it's over.
Starting point is 01:49:18 No. And it just, and chaos just keeps spreading. Dude, how are we, yeah, we're not, I mean, Iraq is already chaos spreading. We're not going to be able to fight a private military force. No. Not easily. I mean, not without a mask. I mean, again, we are talking about, no, all right, let's go fight.
Starting point is 01:49:36 Right. Okay. Okay.

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