The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 340 - Kentucky Caver Floyd Collins

Episode Date: August 15, 2018

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Kentucky Cave Wiz Floyd Collins. SOURCESTOUR INFO MERCH BY JAMES FOSDIKE...

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Starting point is 00:00:46 and we are an American History Podcast. Now each week I juke owner Labradoodle Daddy. Oh a new low has been found you know because you just spit on your mic about how bad that is. And hammock. Labradoodle Daddy. And hammock. Ah. Liar inner. Oh my god. Dave Anthony we destroyed from American history to his friend. Karith Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is gonna be about. Labradoodle Daddy. It's my maple. Oh. It's my girl. Go with Labradaddy. How dare you. Dare you. How dare you. There's an official term that we use in the circuit. Labradoodle Daddy. Oh you did a spit take. I got on the back of my jacket I got a
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Starting point is 00:02:26 trust. Take them away. Trust this guy over here. Frank. Frank is Frank. Frank's one of the best in the biz. God damn it. Is there anything else. I think that's it. July 20th. 1887. Okay. William Floyd Collins was born in Auburn a Logan County Kentucky. Alrighty. Yeah. He had five brothers and two sisters. Much of Kentucky is what is known as karst topography. Karst. Yeah. Now you're you watch a lot of documentaries about animals and stuff that we go into the cave systems. You ever learned about caves at all? I've watched stuff about caves. Sure. Okay. So karst. Karst. Karst K. R. S. T. is a it's soluble rocks. It's limestone.
Starting point is 00:03:09 It's things like that. Okay. And it's in a wet area. So what happens is underground you get a lot of caves. You get a lot of sinkholes. You get a lot of underground streams. Yeah. So Kentucky's got a lot of caves. Right. Okay. So Floyd started exploring Kentucky's caves all by himself when he was six. Okay. That's and again, I'm sure there's someone listening who's going, Hey, that's a shocking thing to hear. Hey, guys, relax at six. You're you're it's time to get down some of these yeah, these caves. Go have a look in a black cavernous hole alone. It's sick. I mean, you know, a lot of people are like it at six years old. Should I let my son
Starting point is 00:03:43 play in the front yard alone? Yeah. Back then you let him go into a cave. And not a lot of people know that home alone was actually based on whole alone. That's the story of a six year old who gets lost in a cave and then thwarts to gold digging dwellers. Yeah. When he was 10, he dropped out of school and with a limestone bandits. His plan at that point was to just go into caves and look for Native American relics that were in there. So they quite an ambitious job. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he would find arrowheads and stuff like that and then take him on and sell him to tourists. Great. Just make it a living. Yeah, sure. Working for a living. At 10, that's
Starting point is 00:04:20 where you can find a job. That's his job. Yeah. Normal by 12, he had a he had memorized a nearby cave that was huge and then he started checking out other unknown caves around the area. Okay, so he's the cave boy. The caves aren't the caves are fucking huge. Yeah, these caves are sometimes they're miles. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they're massive. And yeah, and especially these ones here. Alright, so this 12 year old is just going caving. Yeah. Going caving. So he's finding moccasins, tomahawks, beads, sometimes the bodies of other explorers who it didn't work out for. Interesting. In 1910, a New York geologist paid him to work as a
Starting point is 00:04:57 guide in local caves while he was, you know, mapping them or whatever for two years. Okay. During this time, the geologist taught Floyd the basics of geology. Right. He's becoming a learned man. Sure. A learned. Learned. Learned. Learned. Not learned. No. Floyd became convinced all caves in the area were connected. Okay. So he thinks every single cave in Kentucky is connected to another. Does this end with him finding El Chapo? Yeah. Okay. He was soon squeezing through cracks that other explorers were absolutely terrified to go. My boy, there's no way I could fit in a crack that's right. No. He became known
Starting point is 00:05:32 as Kentucky's best caver. So he gets a rep. You mean so he gets an agent? Yeah. He got. So this is actually a headshot. Yeah. That's like he shot him and then a magazine came and took because he's getting so popular that people are like, what are you doing down there? Okay. And there he's getting some bones and what not that are in the cave. Okay. People started telling stories of Floyd going into caves and coming out miles away, popping his head out in some random owners hayfield. Okay. Right. Just like a little whack-a-mole. Right. Yeah. So he's like a Bugs Bunny at the beginning of the cartoon. He's like, I should have gone
Starting point is 00:06:06 left at Poughkeepsie. Okay. You know what I mean? Yeah. So that's him. So. Okay. So he's a real cave boy. He's a cave boy. In 1917, Floyd discovered an amazing underground cavern with vertical walls, a smooth ceiling and tons of white orange and brown formations. He thought it would make his family rich. He named it Crystal Cave and started promoting it to tourists. Okay. And it would be it. Just people come and look at the cave. Right. But it's so remarkable because it's just different colors. Okay. Yeah. I mean, just the way it was huge. Sure. It was huge on the inside, but also all the colors. Yeah. Okay. No one came though. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Because there's other caves around. Okay. Free caves. Oh, no. They're charging. Everyone charges to get in. Everyone's charging for the caves. They almost got their cave. They charge people to get in. It's a whole, it's a racket. Okay. People would go, you'd take a family trip down to the cave area. Sure. Check out caves. Yeah. Go and griswold it down a cave. That's right. Right. It can only be reached by taking a very rough wagon trail. So he bought a taxi to drive tourists out, but it turns out he was a terrible driver. He once actually drove into the broadside of a barn. Okay. Wow. That's bad. Yeah, it's hard. He's not great.
Starting point is 00:07:16 That means you should be able to see that coming, I think. A barn? Yeah. Yeah. Other cave, so other cave owners don't want him to become successful. Right? Right. Okay. Because they're competing cave businesses. Sure. So they would tell tourists his cave was closed or blocked the road with boulders and wagon. Not even a cave. Yeah, no cave out there. It's above land. Look like a cave out there. No cave. There's no cave. There's trees and stuff. Yeah. Then five goons demanded Floyd hand over the lease to his cave. Hey, we don't want to make it too difficult on you, but I'll give us the lease and the deed to your cave. Okay.
Starting point is 00:07:51 There's no. Give me the paperwork that says that you own that cave. Ah, first of all, I don't have it. Also, we wouldn't want you to fall backwards onto some of those stalactites. I just, you know that? Yes. Are you sure there's the ones that come up or do you think they're the ones that go down? I can never remember. Hold on. Well, let me think. What did the teacher say? Well, she said was stalactite. Hold on. So I think your point is actually well taken. I would not push you back under those stalagmites. Yeah, because my now you might hit you in the ass. No, you're actually wrong. I was right the first time. Yeah. Look, we're
Starting point is 00:08:24 gonna kill you unless you give me the least. Okay, that's fair. So they beat the living shit out of them. They beat him so bloody. His brother had to come out and chase them off with a shotgun. Okay, Homer. He's got a brother Homer just to make sure. Make it normal. Right. Just a normal Homer. So Floyd keeps on going. He's still. He's not intimidated by the cave beating. That's right. That's Floyd. Okay. He's not intimidated. That picture looks like when someone estimates what someone will look like when they're older and they've gone missing. Yeah, for sure. Okay. Do you always wear his hat sideways? Yeah, he
Starting point is 00:08:59 looks like Steve Coog and if he was stung by a wasp. On half his face. On half of him. He wanted to find a cave that would blow away the competition and save his family from all their debt problems. So when he was 37 he found a narrow passage way and he spent his whole life as cave. He just thinks that he can find the right cave. The perfect cave. Then the family's out of debt. No problems. Everyone's gonna live happily. It's like a striking risk. Like go for gold or creating a startup in Silicon Valley. It's all stupid bullshit that people do. Right. Okay. Dog app. You can make a dog app. It tells you what to
Starting point is 00:09:33 put on the water. That's my idea. I got an idea for a dog app and when your dog needs to eat it tells you it goes beep beep let's eat. How about this? I've got an app for you. It's called dog and your dog tells you when it's hungry. Oh and the dog app. Oh yeah. I don't know how we make money off that. Yeah, right. That's my point. Okay. Thanks for coming. You're welcome. So he's 37. He finds this narrow passage way which I will show you. I think this has been cleared out a little bit. That's what it looks like today. Oh okay. I think it was much much smaller. I think at this point there's nothing there but a tiny hole.
Starting point is 00:10:15 Yeah. No it's hard to tell. He spent 12 hours a day clearing away gravel and stones for weeks. What? For weeks. So he's just going this little hole and clearing out because he knows he's gonna hit a cave at some point. A big cavern. On Monday January 30th 1925 he walked through the melting snow and headed into the cave. It was warm for the winter. The entry is now a manhole size. He had a kerosene lamp slung over his shoulder. Five yards down he lowers himself into a four foot drop and then he crawled on his belly under jagged rocks. After 50 feet squeezed through a tight area by exhaling and pushing his
Starting point is 00:10:49 body forward with his toes. That was just a horrifying sigh from Aaron. Aaron does not like caves. Let's figure that out. He crawls for a while and then he had to wiggle through another tight area and then he was in a pit. He went down 10 feet into another hole and he went through and came out on a ledge that was above a 60 foot room. Okay. So he found a room. All right. This is the day he discovers this room. Yeah. So he's just finished. Okay. He just found a fucking giant 60 foot. Right. Okay. So he finds a big room. Then his lantern starts to die. Okay. So he turns back but then he knocks over his
Starting point is 00:11:30 lantern. Oh no. So now it's pitch black. Oh boy. He doesn't panic because he's been in the situation before. Sure. He's fucking Floyd Collins. Yeah. He's dealt with lights out. He's not Homer. Yeah. He knows how to handle lights out cave. That's first time. Goes back through the bottom of the 10 foot pit and lunges but his foot was against. So he gets in this area and he's going to push himself forward. Right. Okay. But he puts his foot against a rock and that rock is not solid. So he pushes and a ton of gravel falls around his legs and his waist. Oh no. So he can't move. So he's buried. He can't move. He's not doing too well over
Starting point is 00:12:11 there. Yeah. This is this is welcome to Aaron's worst nightmare. Okay. So he is now he's basically like quicksanded himself in the cave. Yeah. He's he like all this rubble falls on him. So he can't. Oh I should. Here's a picture. I'm letting you show this. This is like an action shot that they took of him. Like a photographer came up like let's get you in a cave. So it's like it looks like it. Hello. So so this is how he is stuck. It's not that great but so that's him be lying down. Yeah. He's got a beard. He's laying down there. Okay. Well that stuff is so he's really basically the only thing that's out is like his chest
Starting point is 00:12:51 up and other than that he's just covered. Right. Okay. And he can't move because there's a big rock on his leg. Right. His left leg. Okay. Again another upsetting noise from Aaron. So whenever he moves or struggles more rocks fall. He clawed at the walls until his fingernails were bloody. Finally exhausted. He passed out and when he woke he just started screaming. That's the best way to wake up. Yeah. Yeah. Just going to wake up and write it. Just so this is a pattern. He sleeps. He wakes. He screams. He falls asleep. He wakes. He sleeps. He wakes. He screams. He sleeps. He wakes. He screams. Hours of this loses his voice. That's
Starting point is 00:13:34 the end. Oh man. What a good one. His arms go numb because his arms are buried underneath him. So wait when he was leaving there he was once on top and once on the bottom. That's how it is. So one. Yeah. So one stuck on underneath him. One stuck above him. But he can't move either one. Oh God. So the pain is shooting from his ankle which is injured. Now the melting snow water is happening. And so because. Sweet water. Because of where his face is. Water is dripping down directly onto his face. So he's just like oh sweet. Yeah. He's just opening his mouth and filling it like a bird bath. I mean the good thing is. The good thing is
Starting point is 00:14:16 water. The bad thing is that's Chinese water torture. Like that's. Yeah but not if you open your mouth. Not if you open your mouth. Normally it's just the head. That's getting a good. I mean and if you think about it at that rate he can probably get a full sip every two hours if he plays his cards right. Which is nice. Yeah. Yeah. So now. 25 hours go by. Jesus. Time to picture James Franco playing. Now no one up top has been worried until now because there used to Floyd going out and going I'm going spelunking and then he'll come out of a cave somewhere and be like hey Jimmy can I stay with
Starting point is 00:14:49 you and they're like yeah sleep in the barn or whatever so they're used to him being gone for a long time but then after after like 30 hours I think it it was at this they start to go oh Floyd's not around and they start talking at Floyd's say your place last night nope nope nope and then the 17 year old kid goes out looking for Floyd and he finds the hole and he worms down into the cave but he couldn't get anywhere close because he could not do what Floyd he couldn't know Floyd's the best Floyd's the best caver in the area that's what Floyd went through to get to get down there that
Starting point is 00:15:19 looks like an amazing restaurant they give your kid that's the top so he went that and he went all the way down across back up Jesus that's a shit show so the kid yells his name and Floyd yells back come to me I'm hung up I'm hung up and the kids I cannot do and the kid ran out to get help so one by one men start coming and they try to get in go each one wants to be the hero go on the cave and reach for it but they can't get anywhere fucking close no one did everyone's like Jesus Christ okay so they would fail they'd come out they'd be soaked in mud saying they would
Starting point is 00:15:50 never go down in that hellish hole again so by mid afternoon dozens dozens of locals are gathered at the hole when Floyd's 22 year old brother Homer arrives hey man should I shoot at some men are outside the cave arguing um I do have a picture of Floyd Homer no I don't want that Homer there's an up them up there it wasn't that Homer okay down there you go third oh yeah I don't want to show that one you okay so um so Homer goes into the cave men arguing outside he goes straight in he just walks by everybody arguing trying to figure out what to do okay the
Starting point is 00:16:28 cave smells like cigarettes and alcohol from all the guys who've gone in before him oh so those gentlemen while they're going down there to save this man are also having a drink to smoke also I might want to drink before I went in the cave if I think about it or drink while I'm in the cave yeah no for sure definitely get down there all right I'm ten feet down going to have a whiskey and a palm all I don't know if it's whiskey this is also moonshine territory oh Jesus yeah um so Homer gets everybody in the 1800s was like the beginning of a prilosec commercial
Starting point is 00:16:59 pounding like turkey legs and just bath booze I don't I don't know I don't know at what point this happened but to get through oh there's Homer I don't know which one he is I think he's this one right here my guess is is that one the one that looks absolutely terrified I used to blink but then I stopped so he takes off he gets in the cableways and then to get through the skinny places he takes off his pants shirt and shoes and slithers through in his underwear I'm coming brother naked
Starting point is 00:17:27 it's gonna be weird when I get there super weird all right brother I'm scraped up and hard to naked give me your hand do you want some moonshine? I don't want nothing from you Homer here we go you're rowing caven come on take your clothes off we're gonna be naked heroes I'm not gonna take my clothes off get out of here Homer I look foolish if you're clothed and I ain't yeah well that ain't not that ain't right at all Floyd what you're doing ain't right all right I'll tell you what I'm gonna put
Starting point is 00:17:56 on a glove then I won't be naked now come on I'm drunk I've been trying to get down here for a while I drank a lot of shine I ain't blinked in years so when Homer gets to the 10 foot pit right that's this area he realized the horror of the situation so he's there oh no right if one went into the shoot head first he'd have to work upside down and to get out he'd have to go feet first yeah and that's 20 feet before you can turn around yeah it's 20 feet up sure so uh if you go feet first what are you really doing
Starting point is 00:18:31 then you right so you'd have to contort yourself into almost impossible positions to get down to reach him right so that's what Homer did he went down feet first and and he calls for someone to bring down bring down food and then someone else comes in and uh and Homer fled fed Floyd by hand um nine sausage sandwiches and a pint of coffee poured the coffee down his throat jeez look where he is right he's also flat kind of so wow so he ate a lot he was hungry nine sausage sandwiches I imagine they
Starting point is 00:19:06 weren't that big I maybe do one more Jesus Floyd you hungry shit how long you been down there made a pot of coffee to uh more little more sugar so more men go down uh and and fail oh wait did I skip okay uh sorry Homer comes out um tries to he tries tries to remove rocks from around Floyd he can't they're just too fucking packed in around but he's he's feet first or he's yes he's feet first so he's like crouched down in that little pocket there when he's feeding him
Starting point is 00:19:36 he's feeding him with his oh he's just like between his new legs dropping sausage biscuits into his open mouth picture but that's what you painted but that's what's happening Jesus feet on the each side of his head it's good it's basically called outhouse and it's where I squat naked and drop food into his hole you can actually online they have Floyd porn and that's what it is just drop your food into his brother's mouth oh man in the cave look at that he loves man look at him sausages go in that mouth he loves bagel bats
Starting point is 00:20:02 um so he can't get him out and and when he tries to pull rocks out more fall in it's just a fucking shit show so he decides to bail and uh and he goes back up top because he's exhausted well I will say having nine sausage sandwiches is probably well I mean there's the upside being like there's now some something's going through your body the downside is it's you know probably you're probably gonna have to go potty soon yeah this Floyd comes out that's what he looks like when he comes out what they get it oh that's Floyd right no that's
Starting point is 00:20:34 Homer that's Floyd right there oh so they sorry that's Homer oh that's Homer okay yeah that guy I don't know that Homer looks like a beat-up clown yeah he had a rough time down there um because it's brutal for these guys to do these moves to get down and get back up it's a fucking unbelievable for these guys for for Floyd it was no no issue uh he came out a whole hours later he's shivering violently skin was dangling from his fingers so he takes a break more men go down fail they can't get near him nobody could
Starting point is 00:21:02 reach him Homer went back down at midnight for eight hours Homer hacked at the rocks around Floyd with the crowbar no luck he came up at sunrise his arms and back ached his lungs burned there were now tons of strange people up top smelled like moonshine Floyd had been trapped for 48 hours so they've just turned it into sort of a music festival I wouldn't be just sitting out there so they might as well drink and stay warm and whatnot right drink and stay warm yeah that's what I would do so he he so it's it's it's it's a fucking mess and we're on I mean we're what like
Starting point is 00:21:36 three days in now 48 hours he's been down there for 48 hours um and no not that so they're so they're starting to set stuff up and rest and try to rescue them they're doing a real dig yeah they're starting to dig and and do different things um they haven't started a real dig yet but they're starting to like open trying to open up the hole and open up spaces inside sure at least creates some sort of shoot for the sausage sandwiches it's got bad it's got bad really fast um new man had ideas the new man arrived one said Floyd should untie his
Starting point is 00:22:07 shoes smart smart so that guy's understands the situation and knows how to fix it the guy comes over with an idea a plan so hey hey boys yeah no I just got here but I was thinking I was in my home I heard about this came down y'all try to untie any shoes well problem is if we was fixing untie his shoes his head and his torso and the rocks are in the way so we can't get to his feet but if you can you got to recommend now fella I gotta you untie the shoes
Starting point is 00:22:41 up fella let me just jump in here mm-hmm that's an impossibility unless we came from the other side which we would not know how to do all right no it's not an all right is not an answer to this just wondering if they might be double-knotted that's all he can't get to them maybe because they're double-knotted we can't get to them all right why don't I go back home boys please do remember the two remember the shoe thing I talked about we won't another said send a contortionist down with a mallet and chisel
Starting point is 00:23:08 now y'all are sounding crazy I heard about every crazy idea that's imaginable another said use dynamite now for the last time the way to fix this problem is to blow floyd up that's right we want to blow the hole so no one can get out or in now for the last time we need the contortionist from oceans 11 to get down there he's the only one who can fit into that hole someone said they should amputate the foot and see if he can make it out before he bled out okay so a real fun sort of
Starting point is 00:23:44 snail tail race against time yeah that guy wanted like a clock situation happening I say we cut him in half and raised them separately Homer asked some teenagers to bring uh Floyd down some blankets and food and drinks and they went in they couldn't make it anywhere near down and they just stuffed all the food drinks and blankets into cracks in the cave and left he was real happy mister grown grown men did the same thing and they all lied and said they had given food to him oh
Starting point is 00:24:17 shit so he's just like please yeah Homer's the only one who'll feed him that's right a reporter approached Homer and Homer said quote if you want information there's a hole right over there you can don't go down and find out yourself now the reporter's name is Skeets oh if there's any reporter that sounds like he'll go down a hole it's one named Skeets Skeets Miller whoa so uh he's been down now he's been down the hole uh for it's like 50 hours so Porter's name
Starting point is 00:24:51 William B Miller known as Skeets he's 21 he put on cup rolls and headed in he's skinny he's 117 pounds so he this reporter was like all right yep he's never he's never caved he's not a caver he's scared he crawls in he squeezes all the way through because he's so skinny Floyd eyewitness news hello what's your what's your favorite kind of food have you tried on tying your shoes inquiring minds want to know at the last tight spot Skeets called for Floyd and heard a groan uh oh
Starting point is 00:25:23 sausage so Skeets slits down the 10 foot pit and landed on Floyd's head oh good that's what he needed was a concussion 20 foot yeah no for sure uh Skeets apologized this is like the goonies he goes back up and carefully slid back down so he would not be on top of Floyd's head oh cool but Floyd is completely incoherent at this point oh why I don't know okay lazy yeah Skeets uh headed back out Floyd did not been trapped for 73 hours well I kicked his head real good
Starting point is 00:25:56 he's all right he's hungry and I kicked his head hard he made some moaning he's not good uh so he's hallucinating he's seeing angels wrapped in white linens writing blazing chariots I think that means you're close yeah he smells liver and onions freshly frothed cow's milk and chicken sandwiches so he's just smelling an afterlife potluck he yeah he it's it's now Monday February 2nd I don't want to live I gotta go eat potluck with the angels he went down on Friday Lieutenant Robert Burden
Starting point is 00:26:34 a 33 year old Louisville firefighter arrived he was confident and very arrogant he was also super skinny in he went when he reached Floyd he said quote you got a hell of a problem here but I think we can get you out with a rope okay like that idea Floyd said okay yeah let's do this Burden then looked more sized up the whole area and said quote might have to pull your foot off off off off not to take that foot off take the foot off yeah so that was another guy well pull pull not take her off pull her off
Starting point is 00:27:08 pull the foot off yeah with the rope right not when we pull the rope we're thinking baby I'll come right off right okay so have the foot torn off yeah I'm firing okay yeah right uh Floyd didn't care he said quote pull my foot off get me out wow he's tired of it yeah 72 72 hours sure yeah uh Burden may not have known Floyd had lost his mind earlier that day and was hallucinating anyway he thought he got approval he goes up oh no he tells everyone Floyd had agreed to the rope pulling plan okay the crowd did not approve
Starting point is 00:27:41 everyone the locals are like that that doesn't sound that sounds like medieval like fucked up you sound like a crazy Louisville man try taking his shoes off take it untie the show shoes I just say that and run away now getting dragged out of the place uh so they said it would break his foot or if it didn't pull off like it would be a disaster so a doctor in the crowd said the rope pull would stretch Floyd's internal organs like taffy so there's a lot of so the doctor is good
Starting point is 00:28:10 there's a lot of against and the doctor understands what's going on yeah he's like don't gentlemen intestines are taffy yeah so he's a weird one yeah he was also like what we've pulled apart we'll be eating taffy for weeks he has taffy and says every man knows and as any man of science knows we're all filled with different candy let me show you boys oh god it's not taffy now if we're not careful we might strike the now and later and then the Skittles will be everywhere uh burden says look there's no other option I've
Starting point is 00:28:40 been down there all we can do is pull him with a rope the locals had no responses they had no ideas so everyone agrees reluctantly okay let's pull him out with a rope okay so five p.m a body harness was brought down put around him Homer Skeets and Burton went in with a hundred foot rope and when they got to Floyd Homer gave him ham sandwiches coffee and whiskey okay sure that's great then Floyd said he didn't actually want to have his foot pulled off okay so now he's had some
Starting point is 00:29:08 food and he's like wait wait what the hell are we doing uh ha ha this is a bad idea yeah oh wait uh I have a thing that I like my foot well uh we're not as worried about the foot but the doctor pointed out your taffy might get everywhere well good god so so now he's come to and he's like let's not do this right so Homer slipped him a sedative probably in some food sure knock him out okay quote to build up his vitality to stand the shock if we did pull off his foot
Starting point is 00:29:39 yeah uh huh that's what it does it really heightens the experience Homer tied the harness around and put the harness around tied the rope Skeets was crouched at the top of the pit Burton is further up in the cave several other men helped near the cave's mouth and on Homer's count they all started pulling okay and Floyd scream oh my god oh shit damn it okay so he's just in a horrid pain so it turns out he's lying face up right
Starting point is 00:30:13 in a horizontal horizontally face up yeah he's laying like he's in a coffin well sort of his lower body trapped and his back is kind of turned into an L his back okay so his spine is sort of tilted you mean yeah okay yeah down like it's it's like his time is like that it's like angled okay so it's a lot harder to pull him out so in other words are they now talking about maybe maybe taking off the bottom half right right right right so from the the belly button below sort of yeah so i'm gonna need to give another
Starting point is 00:30:45 knockout ham sandwich so the he just started screaming don't do it don't do it don't do it and never get here all the way through the cave which they've now they've now named the sand cave yeah so Homer started pulling in the opposite direction and as everyone as he starts pulling the other way sure back towards everyone else and he had enough strength to pull it from the other men's hands okay Homer does like a fetus strength thing Floyd does Homer oh it's Homer doing it okay so it's over okay didn't go well bad plan
Starting point is 00:31:17 they head back out to reevaluate they're like we can't pull him he screams and might get torn in half right jesus um they're all very particular they're all pretty freaked out by what had happened uh burden uh the fireman fainted as he got near the exit okay his idea he faints right um the crowd outside is getting larger it has been 88 hours oh my god jesus uh then came Floyd's childhood friend Johnny Gerald Johnny Gerald when Johnny first heard that Floyd was stuck in a cave he shrugged and kept on chaperoning the local high school boys
Starting point is 00:31:50 scouts boys boy that boys basketball team that night so he's the champion of the basketball team he's not worried at all he'd explored caves with Floyd all of his childhood and if anyone could get out Floyd could get out but after two days he started to worry and he headed for the cave and when he arrived there were around 200 people mostly shit faced hardly any with caving experience and Johnny was really disgusted by the idea of trying to pull Floyd out right he's a basketball coach so this he's
Starting point is 00:32:18 like run the triangle offense i don't know if he's a coach or he just like hangs out make sure they don't get in trouble sure deal because you know basketball players yeah you know they like to do their thing yeah for sure what um so uh so he so he he goes down okay he's a he's he cannot believe all the the bottles and the clothes and the shit kram and cracks like a six black knight he's like we could open a store down here quote
Starting point is 00:32:49 enough sandwiches in the cave to feed the whole crowd there's a vendor how you doing sir turkey legs that floyd was thrilled when he heard johnny was coming down i mean imagine like community hey floyd make the place look nice you got a visitor too one of your old friends is coming down close your eyes thank you quote let him down here he'll get me out oh man he's gotta be just out of his mind yeah anyone is coming 88 hours they're breaking him out down he'll fix this
Starting point is 00:33:18 but johnny was stocky could not fit down the 10 foot pit so he pulled rocks away until he was able to slink down around midnight then he started removing the gravel around floyd he spent the next six hours trying to enlarge the area floyd's torso appeared and then his hips and then his upper thigh sorry this great plan was to dig the gravel out from around him well he but that's the first thing you have to do before you do anything else to get him out why has nobody else done this i don't know
Starting point is 00:33:48 that would be like the first thing you would try to do i think johnny has a lot of caving experience okay maybe he's just like yeah you get out the rocks before you do before you rip the man in half nobody else knows okay so he's he's pulling out all the rocks um so he's down let's see his hips then his upper thigh so he's all the way down to his upper thigh and for the first time floyd could wiggle his right leg as painful as that is oh my god the atrophy then he could also move his arms in his hands this is the first time so now he
Starting point is 00:34:18 can finally eat the sedatives on his own yeah that's right but johnny was too big to reach past floyd's knees but he moved about a half ton of rock at that point wow yeah it's pretty fucking amazing yeah so before he goes up floyd told him quote not to let anyone come down here down there but him and his party so he's like just you johnny and your party nobody else your boys johnny agreed thinking outsiders could cause a cave in so he's worried about people coming into the cave who
Starting point is 00:34:48 don't know anything about caves right um when he got back to the surface he was approached by a group of professional stone cutters okay they don't fucking do anything they're like guys who work on jewelry they're fucking i don't know i mean maybe they cut bigger stones but yeah they wanted to chisel the limestone above floyd's head and johnny told him to get the fuck out yeah okay we want to cut the part off above his head and then what happens will the rock falls down on his head but then you've got his feet yeah hopefully we get them out
Starting point is 00:35:14 ideally so uh then we can finally take his shoes off get him out of there so the fireman lieutenant burton comes back at 10 a.m and he has great idea he says they should try to pull him out with a rope again yeah that's smart that's good that was that was close last time but i mean in a way he's looser right like is it is it now time that he's curiousity because you guys i haven't your rica moment been thinking all night long got a great idea all right let's pull him out all right great how
Starting point is 00:35:42 well do the same thing put a rope around how we try that plan he almost ripped in half yeah but this time will be different i'm not going to do that uh so this time when he he said that idea everyone everyone shouted fuck you adam and he and that was it okay so he had a good run yeah uh so now floyd is a blurb in newspapers across the country this is because skeets had written a story right floyd have been trapped now for 103 hours oh my god so skeets goes back to the cave sure for the follow-up
Starting point is 00:36:16 oh i already did that skeets here's another skeets so skeets goes back to the cave whoa hello skeets he's not fucking kidding around look at some ladies i've got skeets with the deets at 11 um so the idea was to set up a chain of men who would pass food equipment and rocks up and down the passageway while reinforcing it with boards okay so you got guys moving rocks out at the same time they're taking boards and put them against the side of the cave okay so you're essentially building a mine you're building a mine
Starting point is 00:36:48 light bulbs be set up throughout the cave well so so they did that so now there's like an orange glow throughout the cave oh that's nice yeah skeets uh would then go down and try to remove rocks and gravel from around floyd the whole around floyd's torso had now had five inches of clearance okay so that's pretty good that's great skeets could prop his legs past floyd's head and wiggle hip deep in in this weird position he would paw past floyd's knee so he's probably laying on top of him right oh okay feet first right okay to
Starting point is 00:37:26 get in deep enough to then dig i don't know how this worked it's almost like spelunking 69 it's now it's a sex cave okay so but he is essentially he's going over him he's over him he's on top of him he's laying on him he's digging past the knees he was able to reach past the knee so for two hours skeets passed up buckets of dirt and rocks and floyd started floyd starts to talk quote i believe i would go to heaven but i can feel that i am to be taken out alive and with both my feet
Starting point is 00:37:58 four days down here and no nearer to freedom than i was the first day how will it end how will i get out or i couldn't think of it i have faced death before it doesn't frighten me but it is so long oh god be merciful i want you to tell everybody outside that i love every one of them and i'm happy because so many are trying to help me tell them i'm not gonna give up i'm gonna fight and be patient and never forget them you go out now but don't don't leave me too long i want you with me oh no and i'll keep helping
Starting point is 00:38:29 all i can can to move some of this rock oh boy oh boy so skeets goes back out so floyd's doing well yeah he's keeping it together yeah he writes up he writes up what he said in the story he writes up what happened in this trip and so now floyd is a nationwide event of course front page headlines of course it's bound to happen yeah um skeets also wrote about his own feelings of fear so so normally at this time reporters are not supposed to ever put their feelings into something but skeets
Starting point is 00:39:03 did right he didn't do the weird and then he did this and then he like put how scary it was and all that shit in there so everyone's like reading and they're totally on edge and into the story playhouses around the country would be interrupted during the show to update audiences i'm sorry everybody uh we all know how mcbeth and so we're gonna take a quick time out floyd has had his eighth sausage biscuit and uh he believes that he saw the devil all right as you are
Starting point is 00:39:32 that's floyd so oh boy yeah he's he was dapper before he went down there in dc president coolidge followed the story closely congress stopped debates to find out what was going on now hold on uh i yield i yield to the news i yield to the news of the cave man go ahead news boy yell something well he's a fix in the lifestyle all right that was great sorry i shouldn't have come in yeah here uh floyd got an offer of 350 dollars a week to star in a vaudeville show it might be premature but i like the way he does things
Starting point is 00:40:07 now how's your taping floyd before we put the deal together can you tap assuming you leave with both feet i could tap with my nose all right and what about uh monologues do you feel good about memorization i don't want to die all righty and how do you feel about working with a female maybe we do something a little burlesque uh you any uh i like to fuck no all right well great for it we'll draw this up and i think uh we're gonna love you assuming you make it out of here alive what assuming you make it out of here alive we can't wait to put together a
Starting point is 00:40:38 show for vaudeville boy a real razzmatazz you'll see remember that kid who fell down the well and lost his arm i'm the one who made him a household name dead tommy that's right dead tommy was nothing until me so i'm the one who suggested he bleed out so now skeeds got more and more determined to save floyd he wrote quote i believe i can save him yet i know it in his last story and he went back down this time he planned to use a jack to lift the stones off floyd's foot okay but the team couldn't find the
Starting point is 00:41:12 right size jack sure so skeeds used one that was too small and he piled wood blocks against the cave ceiling uh huh and grabbed the blocks with one hand while wrenching the jack with the others he basically made like a post right in a way to hold on to okay reaches in with the jack with the other and he would loosen this rock that was on his foot which would then move to the side and slip loose and go back down okay so if he had had a bigger jack this might have worked
Starting point is 00:41:42 so he's also in a super awkward position because it just there's no room so it's causing him tremendous pain in his abdominals his back his neck his wrist his fingers you can't bring that up down there and his forearms no boy my back is so sore really yeah it's just well this i mean i understand what you're doing yeah my arm too yeah you know what hurts on me oh i'm floyd i'm just saying oh every all the whole thing i'm gonna get what is your fucking back hurt i'm gonna massage tonight i have to
Starting point is 00:42:10 i have had the shit since eight those 19 sausage sandwiches oh by the way you set a record most sausages eaten in a cave is that true yeah yeah there's a certificate waiting for it yeah congratulations great day huge oh shit it's been 120 hours so this goes on i mean for a while he tries again the rock lurches floyd yells keep turning fellas coming off with each turn the stone shifts and falls and it goes back on his foot ski tries again and again and again he moves around he tries different angles he tries every little angle in the
Starting point is 00:42:45 whole fucking space but what he really needed was the third hand he didn't have one so he finally collapses from exhaustion bird bird was there quote we all felt like sitting down right there and crying it was awful by crazy to suggest wrapping a rope around the guy skis then adjusted floyd's covers and put a light bulb around his neck for warmth sleep well prince and he left uh skis hands were purple and bruised up above the national guard had arrived okay right on time but skeets miller was now a hero
Starting point is 00:43:22 the courier journal wrote quote cave city that's the nearby city right cave city is skeets crazy in fact if cave city were a kingdom skeets could be the reigning monarch without the slightest hint of revolt among his royal subjects by the way king skeets should be a rapper yes how is that not king skeets what's up king skeets in the house skeets whatever uh whenever he left his hotel room tourists would swarm him an informal bodyguard followed him around an informal bodyguard yeah the guy i was just like a guy that goes
Starting point is 00:43:57 yeah that happened with uh uh the bundys oh right and that i do i'll be your bodyguard now i'm done i'm buddha by the way buddha went to prison for being an idiot wow at the cave a new man took over henry car michael the general superintendent of the kentucky rock asphalt company okay henry was appalled at the primitive rescue attempts at 2 30 a.m on wednesday henry sent two men down to assess stability okay these guys are going down to check everything out must be nice for flow to meet some more people
Starting point is 00:44:31 now the opening of the cave was now wider than ever because of that human chain right so they had the big fucking human chain of people who were getting stuff out like they're bringing out tons of dirt i like other rolling suits it's like you're gonna go dig holes and guys like well i'll just wear my digging suit yeah you gotta dress up um so as they go deeper the cave actually gets tighter normally kentucky caves are very stable and and are always 45 degrees okay sorry 54 degrees but this situation is different because the human
Starting point is 00:45:06 chain it happened okay so they had all those humans lined all the way up the top and all the way back down which causes a cave to get warmer okay so he's got a hot cave so skeets came up uh wait right so skeets came up with the idea for the human chain which caused the cave temperature to fluctuate from all the bodies and all the campfires up above sure melting slow snow into the cave okay so it's hot and it's wet wetter than it should be water's pouring into the tunnel large cracks start forming
Starting point is 00:45:40 remember nice topography it is the limestone cave or dolomite or whatever ceiling starts to droop oh no on the cave one of the two of volunteers sent down they got super close they hear floyd moaning as well as the rumble of sliding rocks so that guy turns around he doesn't go he doesn't go out but he goes on getting out of this area yeah good to meet you go good bye bye um the second volunteer kasey jones kept going and he got to the 10 foot pit and he looked at floyd
Starting point is 00:46:12 um he tried to ignore that there were pebbles falling around him don't worry floyd this is fine it just rained the rocks my friend uh floyd begged kasey to come down quote can't now floyd but i will when i come back floyd said quote i'm thirsty of course you are please yep i need water buddy all right see you in a bit kasey fell for it he slid first down into the pit and handed floyd some coffee drink up buddy you thirsty coffee coffee oh that's nice um by the way you also want to be up as much as
Starting point is 00:46:48 possible what tea coffee tea what do you want love a latte um a vanilla soy i hate to be that guy caramel macchiato floyd didn't want the coffee kasey realized floyd wasn't thirsty he just didn't want to be alone oh he was thirsty in a way kasey's partner yelled the guy the first guy yeah the guy the smart guy let's call him smart yeah he says we need to get the f*** out of here okay smart guy earning the name kasey put down the ladle and scrambled out oh he's ladling coffee here you go floyd
Starting point is 00:47:25 as he looks back he saw the passage close like a vice no floyd still had the light bulb on his chest oh it's four a.m four a.m on wednesday uh feb uh february four i don't know that put something else here um it's hour 114 the walls clamp shut and the k-round floyd went completely dark his muffled sobs could be heard behind the rocks no oh no it's just the worst please don't let me just the f***ing worse yeah well plus with those tears he'll be loosening some of the rocks
Starting point is 00:48:05 and he's crying stay with me oh please don't leave please don't leave oh boy all right we gotta get out of here all right so they go up in the morning skeets are eyes with a torch the plan is to burn away the rocks that block the way burn away the rocks so these are soluble rock like the i don't know if it's possible to burn limestone but it probably is might take a long f***ing time sure but remember water can dissolve
Starting point is 00:48:35 these rocks they're right yeah that makes sense that's i mean it takes a while for water to dissolve them but i take to be like we're gonna burn you out of here but it's i would imagine i imagine he had looked it up and i would imagine limestone rocks or dolomite or whatever can be burned if it worked the jacking would be easy but he was told the cave had closed shut he couldn't believe it and he went down himself to see it was blocked it's weird i went down there and i heard the caves crying the caves
Starting point is 00:49:04 the rocks are crying it's so weird so weird i'm gonna sit right here and drink some coffee and listen to these crying rocks all right shut up rocks um so he comes back out when he comes out his nose is bleeding he's been down there now it's a draw of time skeets tells burden quote for god's sakes do not go go back down there and see that Homer Collins doesn't go in again so skeets is giving up he's like this s*** is f***ed there's nothing that's gonna happen
Starting point is 00:49:37 boy but the person they needed to stop from going down was Floyd's childhood friend Johnny and Johnny was pissed he had said all along not to put any people into the cave because it would heat the cave and cause it to change and collapse okay and no one listened so skeets idea skeets the hero had actually hurt the situation caused it to be a f***ing disaster right so johnny got a group together that evening quote there's death down there the walls and ceilings are crumbling unless you are determined to take the
Starting point is 00:50:12 biggest chance you ever took in your life tell me now and stay outside is that alex jones quote yeah okay that's the same speech that they did in glen greg and ross without evolving right um so he's saying this is a death rub yeah so some guys volunteer over the next eight hours johnny would enter and leave the cave five times at least five times maybe more what's he doing down there yeah so he's sawing and chopping trees up top showing up the cave walls again underground a
Starting point is 00:50:43 crew was reinforcing cracks and wobbling boulders and removing rocks okay so sort of preventative movement and then taking out the ones they needed to get out of the way right when they could hear each other johnny and uh giant told floyd there had been a breakdown and floyd just started to cry okay it seems like floyd's not handling this too well yeah he's a cheat well they always say that after five days in a cave you start to go a little baddie yeah um i got that thanks i'm not i don't want you to think i didn't get it i got it
Starting point is 00:51:15 i know bat's living caves sure um it's you know it's a good bit yeah so johnny surgically tried to remove the rocks in a few hours he could see light from the bowl around floyd's neck so he's cutting through the rock okay so what's happening then johnny could squeeze through so johnny went to the service to get equipment and said floyd would be up in an hour wow that's quite a claim i don't like i'm digging him out i don't like i'm digging him out it had now
Starting point is 00:51:43 been 132 hours she's such christ uh at 10 30 p.m a 10 30 p.m on friday february fourth johnny went in he squeezed and crawled he planned to use a grease gun to coat the rocks around floyd's leg to get him out so he had a fucking plan sure squeeze it squeeze it grease it slide it out yeah it's a three-step process you can do with this lady you can do with floyd wait but when they got to the cave there was no light shining through the ceiling had collapsed once again uh johnny yelled for floyd
Starting point is 00:52:15 a big rock fell and hit him on the head hit hit johnny on the head okay johnny heard him moan and quote i've done gone home and gone to bed oh boy floyd was losing consciousness yeah johnny started to clear the passage ignoring the pain from his head he clawed at the stones then a sharp heavy rock fell and hit him squarely on his back 15 minutes later johnny came out and looked at the men quote i would not go back in that during place if they deed me the state of kentucky well funny you should see that
Starting point is 00:52:47 sir you have driven a bargain that i cannot say no to the man with the sash i'm the man with the mayor sash uh have you noticed i have on this hat uh i will uh and draw the paperwork up big tall black hat so but johnny really is like the guy who gives you hope johnny is the fucking hero he's the light at the end of the tunnel that is correct i wish i had a picture johnny i couldn't find one though so want to draw him or something no okay um so uh so now a lieutenant
Starting point is 00:53:25 general hh denhart of the national guard said they were going to dig a shaft straight down to get him okay so now they're fuck the cave right so they're they're going over to where he is which looks like it's like 60 70 feet maybe and then they're gonna dig straight down because because you can't see this but basically floyd is called floyd is called into a hole and then and then sideways and he's 60 feet deep basically so his plan is to dig 60 feet down straight to him like basically
Starting point is 00:53:58 build a well and pull him out yeah it's gonna take a hole and pull him out manhole is what he's gonna dig i'd rather it be a functioning water holder it's gonna be a mental bro um there's coffee in this well so now the state has assumed control of the dig state's taken over no more in his private business denhart told homer would take quote men with brains to get floyd out that's why he was in charge yeah you know what you guys needed you guys needed an asshole yeah i mean seriously yeah that's right yeah i'm the fbi agent in diehard
Starting point is 00:54:28 that's right we're the president henry carmarkle was told to uh lead the dig volunteers from the louisville and nashville railroad the southern signal company the u.s mines rescue team and the engineers from the state highway commission pitched in the local towns people were told to sit this one out but we would sit on your dumb locals we was fancy and a mob the brains here why do you think over this big hat a lot of brain he is smart his head sure is would that be stupid if i was in charge of the national guard well i don't think in this country anybody who's idiotical rise to the top
Starting point is 00:55:05 of any situation that's right now sit down you must be smart sit your shit down you dumb local motherfucker i like the way he talks to us his rhetoric is something i respond to so this caused resentment among the towns people um a geology professor came and explained that the best place to dig where the best place to dig was but the local said he was wrong yeah shut him down and they complained to the officials yeah they said digging a shaft would take way too long even skeets
Starting point is 00:55:33 who had once been full of optimism was now completely full of despair tests soon proved what the locals knew that the fancy heavy machining they wanted to use could not be used because the cave basically inhales exhaust oh gas powered engines just gonna die so it would just suck the fumes in and kill floyd right so they realized that and they realized they would have to dig the 55 foot shaft with picks and shovels that's i mean but also fun bonding and just takes a little longer a couple more minutes maybe hour 146 oh god what i mean he
Starting point is 00:56:09 thursday he went down on friday i don't know how i don't know what he's gonna tell his boss oh yeah no he's not gonna buy that i think sorry you were where in a cave and i gotta why don't you say that to my face again you've been you were in a cave yeah you know what you're demoted you're on the grill oh you're on the grill no i don't need this shit i went down a cave i've been in a hole for five days fuck you floyd i'm not i'm walking in business i'm running i know sorry king of burgers fucking whole liar
Starting point is 00:56:40 uh harry harry harry carmuggle estimated would take 30 hours to dig the shaft well he's got it floyd's got the time yep had to clear the docket uh by the evening the the men started to slow it out on the digging uh the at 10 feet the chef narrowed so only two men could get down there and work at a time at 15 feet the shovels hit boulders they started using pulleys and buckets mules to pull the rocks out the sun set and rose it was an unusually warm friday now our now it's been a week it's friday
Starting point is 00:57:17 um jesus yeah you're you're a dude in a fucking hole they put tarps up over the thing that there was rain yeah it finally looks like the circus that it is um so the pace slows down obviously groundwater is now seeping into the shaft which we know is good we've learned from earlier that you want as much water going into this situation as possible water the nightmare but the groundwater is making the walls crumble when they dig so they're right yeah it's a shit show the pace of digging is now down to
Starting point is 00:57:48 six inches per hour okay so that's what sting does at the 30 at the 30 hour timetable that they that henry put down uh-huh they're just 17 feet in not 55 sure okay that's slower yeah if you don't know how you were in math but that's less not good but i'm able to figure out that that is less than promise yeah floyd's father lee was up top pacing lieutenant burden was worried floyd would die of hypothermia and got permission to use a 75 foot hose to blast warm
Starting point is 00:58:21 i was going to suggest earlier this dude might pull a hose out of his ass what warm air into the cave now what do we know about warm air what do we know what did johnny say about warming up the cave we don't want to warm up the cake that's what johnny said yeah so this fucking asshole wants to blow warm air into the cave to heat up floyd right yeah if in the moment makes sense johnny loses his fucking shit and he and he he starts screaming at henry karmackle you're a murderer for allowing burden to do this he they're gonna do it
Starting point is 00:58:58 yeah oh my god johnny's the only one who's saying no so the general lieutenant general nerhart has johnny banned and dragged off by the national guard oh no so the one guy who knew what the fuck was going on has now been like like the movie the version you'd expect the only guy who knows has been dragged off yeah so now locals are furious they start talking about getting their guns and driving the national guard off oh my god any updates they've got really pear shaped man
Starting point is 00:59:32 how long were you gone you were gone for three hours it's all fucked how close y'all to getting me out but it's so it's so the fucking stereotype diehard the fucking yeah this is an fbi situation now gentlemen and what was the thing when he says uh we're not gonna be able to get in there i give you the fbi yeah it's just the fucking idiot yeah yeah fucking yeah so floyd's been down there for 215 hours when johnny came uh to town he found clars clogging clogging so johnny goes back to town there's cars everywhere okay
Starting point is 01:00:07 cannot get anywhere people are pouring in from all over the fucking country to check out the guy in the cave sure reporters underground oj photographers sketch artists telegraph operators sketch artists like oh damn but the photographers are here that's not good that's not good for our business telegraph operators radio operators and other media people storm the cave cave city skeets reporting had been in over 1200 newspapers across the country making this a huge story silent film crews show up to capture footage live radio reports are being broadcast from the
Starting point is 01:00:42 cave sites this is one of the first ever like live national yeah media friends it's one of the first big media so up to this you would wait for the paper you'd be like what's going on with that cave guy and you'd read the story tonight but a guy can wait to see in the morning and you read about the guy in the morning this is the first time ever people get to sit around the radios right and listen to this shit so it the everyone's just fucking gripped um radio caused people to flood in at least 10 000 people come to cave city cave city as a popular population of 690
Starting point is 01:01:15 there's not 10 000 people there sure it's like a fucking woodstock 10 times 30 right okay traffic packed the road from the town to the cave pastures were turned into mud parking lots restaurants ran out of food homes were turned into temporary hotels accommodations were so limited that visitors paid to nap in bathtubs not sleep overnight just nap it's a tough nap although when you think about floyd so it's like a carnival um this is now the site
Starting point is 01:01:56 oh wow hamburgers get your hamburgers here vendors sold hot dogs hamburgers and knickknacks families had picnics on the grass snake oil salesman came and sold miracle potions moonshiners or local moonshiners were selling uh their white lightning religious groups came and sang hymns and said prayers and as a reference welcome to floydfest floydfest for unbelievable days jam packed with everything you need at floydfest floydfest uh a juggler showed up
Starting point is 01:02:32 blue balloons were sold to children with the word sand cave printed on the side yay a nice memento to celebrate the man trapped in the hall the death of a human bones of a man below come on and celebrate the slow death of a human come on and celebrate the chest collapsing of floyd a bob wire fence was put up around the new rescue area to push everybody back 2000 excited people watched outside the wire oh hardly anyone had come to help they'd all just come to watch sure they came to see floyd pulled from the cave dead or alive awesome good group fun but that night the
Starting point is 01:03:06 atmosphere died down they were losing faith they would see anything oh i mean they drove all the way hey sir you buy the hole can i say something no boo this is the worst whole show i have ever been to pardon it's the worst whole show i've ever been to i've never seen worse whole shows uh i've seen so many whole shows all right who is stop talking to those people my wife was a whole show sir get down get down get down and going back to the brotha go there
Starting point is 01:03:44 god damn it my son timmy puts on a better bottle show go oh my god frogs he uses frogs any of the police want to talk to this man just putting frogs in his son i don't do that timmy does that on his own it's just his show okay come on so the tourist leave they're all upset and i think it's bullshit it's not what they were promised i want my money back you didn't pay to come here oh the job out of town honking while men dug and others paced at the site worried about their friend and family member
Starting point is 01:04:21 drizzle came starts raining i thought drizzle was gonna be a guy sergeant drizzle mud ooze down the dig walls generators pumped out water on sunday the shaft was 25 feet down halfway to the goal okay super slow going not weird promise at all no no no they tried dynamite but it barely chipped the boulders jesus christ he's got to be down there like please somehow morale held held on they're still they still have high hopes the volunteers came to to relieve those who who were too tired
Starting point is 01:04:53 the brotherhood of hobos sent aid wow yeah someone connected a radio amplifier to the wire of floyd's light bulb now you can hear about our fuck jar so what this would do is it would detect vibrations when floyd moved so it crackled 20 times a minute and they realized this was because he was breathing okay so they have a baby monitor yeah they've made a baby monitor basically okay so they got this crackle they know he's okay but progress is slow tuesday comes tuesday
Starting point is 01:05:27 tuesday yeah a week and a week and some chance week and a half for being technical yeah on wednesday february 11th hour 288 man the rain turned to snow what i mean come on the mud froze okay floyd's light went out in many ways the shaft was at 44 feet oh my god this really is i mean this is a race against time yeah floyd's dad lee asked for donations from people and then conspiracy theorists jumped in
Starting point is 01:06:06 they claimed floyd was not even trapped this was all about money oh wow you gotta have them it's fucking america is this gotta have is q behind this the family newspapers railroads and cave city were all cashing in they said news newspapers ran out of things to report floyd is the cave dummy it had become a stagnant story so they started just don't look at that they started just preaching about or not preaching just reporting about the the conspiracy theories right because there's nothing else to tell it's a guy in a hole is he out now but
Starting point is 01:06:39 there's six feet away from proof which is the title of the story yeah six feet away some people sent telegrams to floyd one came from kansas quote so from floyd oh from floyd yeah there it's people trying to make it seem like conspiracy theories true oh right quote please contradict statements that i am buried alive in sand cave tell mother i'm all right coming home floyd collins i just there are so many similarities at times fake news another rumor was that the
Starting point is 01:07:15 collins family loving publicity deliberately delayed floyd's rescue yeah he just wanted to eat sausage down there some said johnny had stopped rescuers from entering the cave because he worked in real estate and had a financial interest in crystal cave absolutely yeah yeah who doesn't want to buy the cave where a guy died it meant that if no the other cave the cave they own oh right oh right johnny has a piece of floyd dies he's going to benefit by getting that part of the cave a resentful well also popularity double a resentful john burden said johnny
Starting point is 01:07:48 jerald was quote guilty of nothing short of murder when johnny's the only motherfucker who did anything keep digging stop arguing the governor told general denhart to convene a military court of inquiry to look into the conspiracy theories oh fuck so for a week military brass interrogated rescuers and witnesses homer collins skeets miller johnny jerald robert burton homer just everybody the inquiry concluded johnny did reject help but so at burton car magl denhart everybody everybody was fighting each rescue team
Starting point is 01:08:20 believed competing rescuers were incompetent which was pretty much true they had little knowledge of caves or they had no organizational skills but no one had both okay valentine's day came floyd had been trapped for 36 hours okay i mean he was down there no 30 360 hours oh my god but he's been down while he was down there they have held a military inquiry right yeah and finished it right and wrapped it up right and they're six feet away boys tell me what's going on with that military inquiry about three weeks out floyd
Starting point is 01:08:55 the court concluded no foul play had been involved great dig just incompetence dig 55 deep deep 55 feet of dirt have not been excavated okay car magl said to dig sideways right because they've gone out 55 feet they must have missed missed the shot right okay floyd had been trapped for 17 days 411 hours he's fine he's fine wait 17 days 41 hour how many 411 hours 117 days he's fine days i could do this standing up uh i don't think he could 12 without food
Starting point is 01:09:29 but he probably had water from the water that's leaking remember there's water there's water he hasn't had any food for 12 days it's not burning any calories either so no reporters were packed outside the barbed wire fence two dozen telegraph operators stood by seven airplanes were in pastures waiting to transport photographic negatives to faraway newsrooms wow seven right it's good good resource management at 1 30 p.m on monday february 16th a chisel penetrated sand cave they frantically widened the hole and a
Starting point is 01:10:02 rescuer flashed his light in they had broken through the 10 foot pit the man eased into the cave and aimed his flashlight at floyd crickets scattered so he's probably eating crickets okay good protein the man saw glimmer it was floyd's gold tooth which was not moving at all oh no the man said shook his head and yelled quote dead anywho what let's get out of here that's good hold digging boys let's go find another guy we're a team now we're not breaking this up
Starting point is 01:10:37 we got in there he's dead yeah he's dead ah ate it damn it yeah were you were you thinking i mean he's they really hung in there he did hang in there impressive as shit yeah it's a good thing they had that military meeting that's right damn it floyd had been dead for three days he died just after the light bulb just after the light bulb went out officials decided to me to keep floyd entuned where he was thinking if they tried to take the body out it would be
Starting point is 01:11:08 too dangerous for the men okay so on tuesday february 17th motion picture cameras film the collins family as they said goodbye to floyd acquire saying soya was put in the shaft they just were like and all we got to do is fill this one yeah he's in a grave yeah the collins family was poor as ever local saw floyd's dad scouring the rescue site for glass bottles then the owner of the sand cave be doil put up a sign on the highway 200 yards away the body of floyd collins is imprisoned in sand cave
Starting point is 01:11:41 oh no no 50 cents no i knew it's one could look at the hole that ate floyd collins a man be doil had once called the friend he's now making money off in capital isn't good though it is good just makes it gives you heart it does it's warms the soul and paths do it some rescuers got vaudeville contracts and tour theaters what it's it's like when like youtube stars get tv shows it it was this was when you would get a contract and just you would go and tell the story of what happened and people come and listen and you tell a
Starting point is 01:12:15 story right pretty entertaining damn what else skeets miller was offered 50 000 from a lecture circuit he turned it down and went back to reporting for the louisville courier journal homer collins toured vaudeville stages for eight months but he was just trying to save money to get floyd out of that hole quote i kept thinking of floyd lion in the muck where he had suffered beyond our power to imagine i would never have peace of mind if he remained there after he was able to get enough money
Starting point is 01:12:46 he hired miners on april 17th and they redugged the shaft and removed the rock pinning floyd's leg two months after he is that too much yeah it weighs 27 pounds i know it's three i'm three months after i thought it was three months february march you're right whatever yeah i'm good i'm good i don't i i do numbers you're the human calculator you do you do you do months i do numbers that's exactly right on april 26 1925 floyd collins was put in a grave in the family cemetery a stalagmite might hitch up the ass that's right yeah
Starting point is 01:13:25 headstone marked his plot that's nice yeah nice touch things have gotten worse since the accident people were actually avoiding the area now because of floyd's accident death avoiding like walking near it well i guess they just thought it was cursed or something but people were just not coming to cave city anymore smart smart more and more cave explorers started trying to find the next big cave and losing their lives in underground so more people were yeah man people are poor they're trying to fucking make money
Starting point is 01:13:56 and in this area what are they gonna do find a fucking cave strike it rich we'll be back there yeah the federal government was aware uh this was becoming a problem lee collins floyd's dad sold the stake in crystal cave okay that wasn't all he sold no god damn it no what why it's your child he agreed to allow dr henry thomas a dentist to exhume and display for floyd's body and dentist in a glass covered coffin inside crystal cave oh man
Starting point is 01:14:33 oh that's what uh oh god i got ten thousand dollars see that down there yeah so that's where you'd go and check them out yeah uh the horrified collins family uh you know what i give you permission when i go yeah you're allowed to put me on display and make money off i love that all right i love that thank you you can do the same with me i appreciate that man actually i want to be in the body farm uh the horrified collins family obviously wanted to stop people from looking at the imbalm body of quote but the dad said you did it
Starting point is 01:15:04 greatest cave the dad wanted the rest of the family was like that seems rude yeah insensitive um congress authorized turning mammoth cave into a national park in 1941 one reason was so the government could control who went underground because all these guys are going down there and dying right so they're buying it up piece by piece but they bought the big piece and then they slowly went bought all the little caves so they're buying it caves around the area sure um so need to own the land obviously it's
Starting point is 01:15:31 buying up in 1961 the government bought crystal cave for 285 thousand dollars okay uh floyd was still inside floyd was oh god oh my god oh god in 1961 there he is um eventually public access to the cave was closed off in 1989 floyd's body was buried in a baptist cemetery oh right on time jesus christ man professional covers eventually uh cavers professional cavers eventually confirm floyd's hunch the caves in the region are all connected 405 miles of passageways
Starting point is 01:16:10 the mammoth cave system is now the world's longest but one cave is isolated sand cave is still separate in the 80s the cave entrance was permanently sealed with a steel gate bolted and welded shut to this day cavers continued to explore the 405 plus mile mammoth system and find the letters fc scratched into the rocks wow that's crazy yeah jesus what oh that is where the phrase getter done came from that's what where the phrase getter done came from right right people don't know
Starting point is 01:16:48 that wow what a uh what a little ride how do you feel about yourself uh good good that i should not complain on planes anymore do you feel like america is better or worse than it was i think america is better than it was but in a race to be worse yes that is correct we are the winner's losers of all winner loser town no we're the yeah we're the the winners who are like we'd never lose just the fact that we're the bad guy in an 80s movie like can't a man just die
Starting point is 01:17:30 like can't a man just just have a problem and die and not have that well you know like even when you talk about something like that like today right we wouldn't people wouldn't come there and sell hamburgers and stuff but it would be exploited in the other ways where the news would be there with the breaking news logo up the whole time what's the difference between the barbed wire and the 2 000 people around it and selling hamburgers and watching on santa yeah it's a sensational selling ads for sure it's all the same you're making money off of a guy's suffering
Starting point is 01:18:04 and the news is making money off of suffering and that's that that is the thing that that we love now more than anything is like capitalism and the news don't work because you do not get the news if there is profit incentive you know what i was thinking you get something else you get hysteria you get nonsense but if it's not profitized if they can legally not get ratings the news is the news yeah the news is a huge problem and what i was thinking the other day is like what you really need is we need
Starting point is 01:18:35 somebody who is like like in charge of ordering our problems in charge of like just someone who's just like yeah i understand how upsetting that is but you know we need to save earth in order to solve palestine you know but then what i realized was we did have that it was the person who was the news anchor that person was like here are the six fucking things that are terrible here's what's going that's how you knew what mattered kronkite kronkite would devote devote an entire 30 minutes to one subject
Starting point is 01:19:09 yeah or and but like dan rather you know like over the years it was like you had this kind of one or two people who would be like telling you what was important and yeah like you're saying like kronkite would be like okay you know the the vietnam is such a huge story that's what we're gonna talk about instead but now because there's so many voices it is the it's that is the by by reporting on the president's tweets if everyone in the media who felt like they were fed up of the behavior and like
Starting point is 01:19:39 the treatment of the press and stuff we're just like we will no longer report the tweets yeah if they all agree to do that what a huge leg that takes out from the way that the the people communicate their stories about people taking all their scooters and Santa Monica electric scooters that are being put everywhere people getting mad that they're on lawns and stuff and so there's always stories of people throwing them in the water yeah and setting them on fire and doing all that stuff but i think that if they do that they should be made to watch
Starting point is 01:20:07 a five minute video of the fires in northern california and the people dying from heat yeah all over the world and just have to watch that and go are you sure are you sure the scooters are the problem yeah we need a lot a lot more people need to get clockwork orange like we need to set up like open like united artists cinema answer to everything clockwork orange people just gotta start clockwork orange how is that not a thing and here's how you do it you just set it up anywhere where there's those
Starting point is 01:20:39 things where it's like put your business card into win a cruise yeah anybody throws their business card in there right there all clockwork orange absolutely right up to that yeah by the way there's some people listed right now who are like how the hell did they make a guy getting trapped in a cave about trump oh everything's about trump hey i'm sorry i'm sorry if you think that that we're being um wrong and and tying everything in it trump but guess what shit's fuck deal with it yeah honestly deal with it well you know
Starting point is 01:21:08 be a big boy a lot of times uh like when you're dealing with uh you know like a movement that is leading you towards fascism you have two options uh you can either tie a rope around it and try to drag it out yep or just take the shoe off take the shoe off and grease it up i think it'd be better to just take the shoe off just don't let everybody in the cave yeah that's the worst thing and what we're doing right now is we're the people on land arguing about how to get floyd out of the cave while he dies that's right yeah 100% all right everybody it's been fun
Starting point is 01:21:43 are you freaked out about the cave story it is quite literally my worst nightmare by the way i think it's ticket master that refuses to put up our picture because the guy thinks that it's offensive i think it's ticket master oh yeah like a head guy a ticket master thinks it's offensive grow some balls to get master you're offensive yeah that was your existence all right all right bye i was on cars

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