The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 341 - Cold Creek War (live in Nashville)

Episode Date: August 22, 2018

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the Coal Creek War. Recorded live in Nashville. SOURCES TOUR INFO OFFICIAL MERCH...

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Starting point is 00:00:55 even mean anymore guys. Come on. Jesus. This is how many how many of you were brought by somebody else and have never. Oh boy. I don't know. And how many and how many of those how many of you people are conservatives. That's why you do like an under-the-table slow clap to yourself in this room. You're like thank you everyone for coming out. We're very happy to be here. You're listening to the dollop. Scary. This is a bilingual American history podcast so we'll do it once in English and then and then once in Spanish afterwards so you can stick around
Starting point is 00:01:53 if you're please don't leave a Spanish bigger. I Dave Anthony read story from American history to his friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. I'm proud of you. Huh? I'm proud of you. Shut up. July 1866. Tennessee. Leased convicts for the first time to furniture manufacturers. That's what we call a pause gang. What happened? What happened? Tennessee. Yeah. What? Leased convict. No. No. No, not that. They would pay for the inmates housing in exchange for labor. So they put the convicts up and then in exchange for that they they'd work all day. What a concept. The Civil War was over and Tennessee was it took a pause. Civil War
Starting point is 00:03:08 took a pause. Tennessee was one of the many southern states struggling to find revenue after the whole sure owning people think it's the it's like the coal mining phase now where you're like well what's next yeah yeah don't don't bring up the coal mines right now sorry how many guys are coal miners really are you no he's not how many of you are lying coal miners new railroads are opening up in the state's coal mining operations creating a big demand for cheap labor okay yeah in January 1971 miners in Tracy City okay no you know no one because you could hear a chair moving yeah you heard a chair move
Starting point is 00:03:55 heard us chair just no one's from there I think a lot of these towns no longer exist but we'll see they struck for higher pay and ending the script system okay what tells about the script system who puts on the spelling bee it's correct so companies started using convicts as coal miners convicts why don't you tell some of the people out there who don't know what it is what it is we'll get to it okay convicts released for a hundred thousand dollars per year to Tennessee coal iron and railway company so you get you get as many as you want for a hundred grand oh what not each oh guy thought each no no no no
Starting point is 00:04:39 this is a no you get a hundred grand you get the whole shim dango oh boy the whole what he do the whole flow flow stop so the company was working 60% of all prisoners in Tennessee okay and even subleasing convicts to smaller mines what sub let's see yes you get it so you could sublet a guy so you get a guy let's listen to what you just answered the question yeah yeah you get a guy so you get a guy you'd be like I got too many guys and you go over to a little coal I just found out I'm going to Italy for the summer yeah you'd be like hey you want a guy and that coal money be like I totally want a guy like there you
Starting point is 00:05:21 go just feed them or whatever oh god damn it the company said it was leasing convicts to counter the quote high cost of regular miners yeah okay yeah these ones are free oh Jesus you me right I'm already a little worried gets worse I'm at that's what I'm worth that's why I didn't say I'm upset I'm worried it gets a lot worse worried yeah but I mean the writing is all over the wall yeah it's gonna be terrible stop saying stuff like that I need support I don't need this no support here I'm gonna crush you in front of why are you doing this I'm gonna take your heart and squish it on the floor like how grapes are made into wine
Starting point is 00:06:09 the company vice president called convict labor quote an effective club to hold over the heads of free laborers wow just went out and said it not he felt no shame when he said that he just said yeah for some years after we began the convict labor system we found that we were right and calculating that free laborers would be loath to enter strikes uh-huh you know turns out turns out people in prison who are forced to work in coal mines don't go on strike yeah interesting how that works yeah that's weird yeah it's weird they put the convicts in the most productive areas and the paid miners in the areas of the
Starting point is 00:06:51 mine that would take a long time to get coal out so you know the shittier parts okay oh okay because the coal miners were paid by weight right right by the hour or whatever which I think we should go back to it's a loophole within a loophole yeah nice those are great so they got coal script which I brought up it's company money so I knew you could exchange it in the company store but nowhere else like you could take it Frank right at his store and be like hey Frank can I buy some Gatorade yeah it's like theme park bucks it's like yeah it's like theme park bucks you can only go to the six flag store now it's like
Starting point is 00:07:29 Chuck E cheese money it's not well that's a place to blow a thousand dollars I'll tell you if you can get a bunch of stuff great key chains I mostly go there for their bronchitis hey kids get in that ball pit get bronchitis huh put them in your mouth there you go come to check each he's we never wiped down our machines now with measles so the miners had no choice but to use the stores owned and operated by the company and that allowed the company to charge higher prices for goods he's getting a sweet debt circle you gotta work for the company because you're already in debt it's cool so this is actually illegal
Starting point is 00:08:14 in Tennessee at the time but they did they did it anyway oh weird how that happens that doesn't happen anymore no no no no no it was the law you know yeah nope in America honor system it turns out most of the prison population were African-Americans had a feeling this was gonna be headed in this direction you know I know this is a shock for a lot of people in the audience but yeah it seems like there's a problem with that they were called zebras or stripers because of their black and white striped clothing don't go where you were going yeah don't go to that shit take it take it back a little bit for once
Starting point is 00:08:54 someone actually just called them because of their clothes not something else which I mean yeah which to me is you know always what I picture I don't know when we went orange I don't want to give notes on the wardrobe but well orange is easier to see when they run away oh stripes you could you could hide behind a seriously well seriously you can lay sideways no one sees you where the hell is he I don't know all I see is a white picket fence with some black stripes going across part of it yeah that's the
Starting point is 00:09:27 face gone prisons were overcrowded had poor food poor sanitation there was violence and convicts were overworked so that's different yeah that's changed no for sure this I'm sure we'll get resolution at the end of this one yeah so the convicts were were put into stockades in mining town so they built a little stockade and that's where they put the convicts in okay they were so cramped the space prisoners slept in was a quote good-sized grave what a horrible way of defining it it's like a nice spacey grave yeah I mean it's not like a grave where you could spread out a little yeah you roll around in nice
Starting point is 00:10:10 grave yeah right some people would kill for a nice grave yeah some people are killed and in nice graves and the medical facilities were to revolt or revolting for popular reading oh my for what popular reading for popular reading for unpopular reading super good super good popular reading yeah like sure good thank you the Tennessee Commissioner of Labor reported that prisoners had an appalling death rate it's hoping there'd be a little more to that like some sort of like path to solving it but no no they just said they just died right so Cole Creek became one of Tennessee's most lucrative
Starting point is 00:10:53 coal mining areas and the largest town in Anderson County the Anderson is here tonight is so crazy that there's one person is it really only one person here from Anderson County to or she's super fast is it three yeah over there now yeah hi are you a coal miner no is your family coal miners all right it's disappointing there were 3,000 people living there by the 1870s so that's fucking huge right okay right man in a in the 1890s some labor friendly politicians were elected including Governor John Buchanan and this made the miners fired up so they started making demands one was cash payments instead of
Starting point is 00:11:48 scripts right yeah another was to use their own check waymen to wake all instead of the one hired by the company okay so they're just kind of asking for some fair treatment that fuck you yeah they're gonna break the companies what they're asking yeah so a nearby Bryceville they rejected the demands on April 1st shutdown operations okay two months later the company demanded the miners sign a no union activity contract before they came to work and the miners refused and officially went on strike okay and then the company brought in the convicts okay oh boy 40 white convicts arrived and started building a
Starting point is 00:12:23 stockade the mine the striking miners demanded the convicts be removed and then the company tore down the miners houses to build the stockade so Jesus yeah they were they were like go get him out of here and they're like what do you say we fucking tear down your shit what that's not how this works there's a different game you're over negotiating what are you doing so the miners and local merchants got together to figure out a plan the next day in the early morning over 300 miners and citizens of Cole Creek holding a miner's lamps and axes and things of that nature well I mean that's got a little more
Starting point is 00:12:58 intimidating it's not just light based any longer that's to shine on the axe when it goes into heads they overran the convict camp took over the stockade and took the convicts to a train and put them on it and sent them to Knoxville okay see ya motherfuckers okay interesting move a mr. Goodwin who was a lisi which means he was a guy who leased the convicts to the companies he was the middleman guy used to be previously known as a slave owner real shock him to hear that connection because the job sound wholly different anyway mr. Goodwin said the miners demanded that he released the convicts and he responded
Starting point is 00:13:46 over my dead body and then and then he did it right and then he was like never mind let's take him to the train yeah so the convicts were put in Knoxville they put in the county jail and the governor ordered the commissioner of labor and mine inspector to go with state militias and take the convicts back how many like three hundred you said there weren't that many I think they were like 40 they were just building a stockade okay the governor said the sheriff at Vanerson County asked for the state militia to be sent now the militia was known as the Knoxville rifles okay are they still called that no they're an
Starting point is 00:14:20 indoor football team now come on rifles dig deep there's the playoffs so the Knoxville right rifles apparently had a chip on the shoulder I guess there's a last season way that ended thought of high as was not passing her fear sorry they they lost to the Miami flamingos rough year yeah well that they can only play on one leg so it's kind of unfair yeah quote the boys say they will show the people who have ridiculed them that they're made of the stuff that stands fire although they would like to go forth for a better cause wait that's on behalf of who that's the Knoxville rifles they're saying that they're gonna go
Starting point is 00:15:09 forth and show people they can do the job but they'd rather not do this one that's right big ambivalence since 1802 the Knoxville rifles did not have any supplies for any sort of extended situation okay problematic that's not good right yeah governor becan and plan to go to the miners and talk to them and to letting the conflicts go back to work Eugene Merrill who was the leader of the miners called to have a secret meeting there about 500 there it's kind of a big secret yeah well it's up on the hill so you know what's it like you got hills over there right yep there's just going to Gorge or whatever it sounds like
Starting point is 00:15:55 you're making parts of this up if not all of it you're looking over to that table like you've got a lot of hills a lot of hills okay all right sure a lot of hillologists so I am so all the towns at this point were scattered about five miles apart all the mining towns okay and they're thinking they're gonna head to the next mining town and stir shit up Knoxville journal quote editorial naturally the sympathies of the journal are with the miners but they've violated the law of the state and society will demand that the law be vindicated oh god great they may kill some of the guards and militia they may
Starting point is 00:16:33 destroy property they may liberate some convicts but in the end the law will prove strong and will prevail what are they even arguing for I don't know what like it it's a bad editorial yeah I'm like they might kill a bunch of guys and just fucking burn shit up and and fucking let all the prisoners out what editorial part of this the law wins in what capacity what law an editorial by Jim confusing for years the Republicans had fought against convict leasing but organized labor was quote voting for democratic candidates for the legislature blinded to their own best interest and held captive by
Starting point is 00:17:15 democratic leaders by ropes of baseless prejudice like anyone want to move a chair the people of Anderson County were on the side of the miners the average pay of a paid miner was $2 per day Jesus and those wages obviously help all the farmers and merchants in towns when they brought in convict labor there was no money for local businesses the convicts were fed by huge food shipped in on trains so it was just everybody got fucked right the next morning the train arrived a large crowd watched the convicts were marched to the stockade no trouble everything's fine okay the governor arrived on another train he said
Starting point is 00:18:01 law and order must not be overthrown and then he was sad that this has had happened sure yeah well and he's obviously clearly ground flooring this problem by getting on a different train speaks to how much he cares about that everything's fine I'll take this big one actually they'll do theirs quote it is not the way to correct an evil to try to overthrow the law well there's some holes to poke what if the law is not good you just gotta live under okay just then that's the only time no band before me well no man before me would have any respect for me if he did not see the laws executed I don't make the laws they
Starting point is 00:18:44 have been made by the man whom you send to the legislature every two years so he went on for a long time talking about law blah blah blah no one gave a shit everyone's quiet and staring at him and they were bored and then their leader Eugene Merrill stood up the miners spoke but he gave a speech that was just constantly interrupted by cheers and applause the governor has said the law is against us why is the law so rigidly enforced when towards the operators it is not in the first place script is paid to local cold diggers for use at the company stores at a discount of 20% again cars litter with coals in the mine
Starting point is 00:19:22 are weighed in the dark and the amount put on a weighing sheet and fixed up while the miners are a mile away that seems like a fucked up system yeah and a fair point so that with a lot of applause breaks yeah I got some applause not like you guys not like you guys who did not seem fired up through you guys were no no no it's a different time but still I mean that was like that's like the miracle speech that's just like I guess you guys don't know the fucking miracle speech okay yes I do let's go ahead stand up do it no no no not gonna do I bet you if we played those Russians they beat us nine out of ten times but
Starting point is 00:20:14 not tonight tonight we win so I got where where is that guy supposed to be from he's from he's like a weird medwest I'm doing Kurt Kurt Russell just keep reading the goddamn story oh he's from Kurt Russell he's from he's come from Russellvania if you must know he is Kurt of Russellvania that's fair not tonight so I'm sick of tired of hearing what a great hockey team the Ruskies have all right now go so the meeting broke up no trouble it might have been also because the guards were posted all over the place looking through their gun sights at the miners
Starting point is 00:20:58 she's that'll kind of make you down yep my start shit where it was the miners gonna meet we're gonna meet later and trouble was expected because their wives and children were at this point nearly starving oh my god at mid-diet a hundred men stormed the Knoxville Company mines armed with rifles and shotguns the guards moved the 125 convicts at the mine into the mine and then barricaded them inside what a weird decision put them in the mine that'll make them happy that won't upset them further when you're down there do some mining right two birds one coal let's just get going guys get under there so they got all the
Starting point is 00:21:40 convicts stuffed in the mine and then the miners when they ran past the stockade they shot in the air and the guards got scared what what what were the guards expecting to have happened they were shooting we were so nervous oh boy Clark Pete his pants I did I'm so scared I didn't know they'd be shooting I told you explicitly there might be shooting I heard lamps one of you's scared of lamps I just heard they come with lamps we're all scared of lamps sir Governor Buchanan came and joined the militia and he held the rifle for a bit
Starting point is 00:22:23 to make a little bit of a show look at me I'm one of you I've got this in my hands just one of you all right take it I'm leaving away so he left there's a hundred my hand milk they've had quite a day in the man's world I feel like you know I made me judgmental right here but I feel like no one in Tennessee has ever had hand milk it's as common as when they fan themselves and go oh my pick up a book day for God's sake the journal so apparently the militia men were at this point getting exhausted by the whole thing and the journal wrote that if relief did not come for the soldiers they were going to just leave and go
Starting point is 00:23:19 home interesting tactic it's rare they were not being treated well they were getting just two meals a day and the food was dirty and unfit to eat that's like no meals a day yeah well they were just probably getting fed the convict food right yeah so they what are the interesting so now they're like we're actually we've picked a side now can we go on strike what no we I know you're to stop the strike but we're going down the mine hire some guards no what the Knoxville rifle riflemen were also wearing heavy shoes that had come from the convicts clothing supply because their own shoes had worn out from
Starting point is 00:23:55 constantly being on guard one soldier was seen barefooted interesting probably not too fun yeah it's not great for a war no yeah usually you don't see guys without shoes on yeah you know not John MacLaining through a battlefield yeah shoots a glass the sheriff then said he had never asked the governor to send militia in the first place and that and that the governor and asked he never responded and then the sheriff said since he didn't ask for the troops if they killed a minor they would be guilty of murder so then they're like what is going on yeah and then he was accused of neglecting his duties and so at that
Starting point is 00:24:33 point he just left town what the sheriff took off sheriff where you going I'm out of here fuck this shit what no I was like good there this is bad and you guys are like you should be fine like fuck you you're all assholes I'm going to Hawaii they might have found it by now they found it a while ago they did find it a while ago that's where I'm headed to Hawaii which has been around for a while and established not not a it's not a part of America yet everybody knows that it's a territory it's a territory exactly so thank my obviously I know I'm the one moving there it's been discovered it's a
Starting point is 00:25:16 territory oh who discovered it Jonathan Hawaii and and I'll tell you some and I'm excited to become a citizen if that's what is the deal there yeah it probably is it because you're not saying anything so I'm pretty sure I'm headed for citizenship I'm how I knees they're gonna kill you and plant pineapples in your skull so that's kind of what it's like there now yep just a bunch of white dudes with pineapples in their skulls it's great though yeah especially quiet memory about the ticket yeah on the boat the plane will is around yeah we'll take that we'll take that then not it for about anyway on what upward now
Starting point is 00:26:12 there's no plane there's no plane I know I'm kidding but I have an idea about something called a plane and it's been it's one of these things I keep thinking about what if a boat could be a bird and that's just where I'm at and I'll stop and I'm headed there and take care guys good luck boat first one to grab the badge is the sheriff it's like a bouquet at a wedding you're next the whole sheriff works and it's here what do I know I'm headed to a territory on a boat where I'll get a pineapple in my cranium anyway the sheriff's gone right bingo back back on track from the leaf Chronicle quote sorry leaf Chronicle
Starting point is 00:27:01 hello it's a they do stories about trees mm-hmm on trees about trees the leaf Chronicle quote the treatment of the troops has been a disgrace to the town public and private citizens stand on the street corners and loudly avow that they hope the miners will exterminate the troops when they move into the hills okay that's kind of fucked up that's aggressive but I mean that's what you get in the leaf Chronicle they don't pull punches no they don't no hard-hitting you read the leaf Chronicle it'll what what is no why are you Ed McMahon in a table my god an Ed McMahon reference I met him once took his
Starting point is 00:27:46 hand put on your Ben gay West Alice mall the next day 1500 armed miners surrounded the Cole Creek stockade okay that's a lot that sounds like numbers are strong yeah it's a lot of the population of a town you were talking about is like this is I mean half a town which is a lot the soldiers agree to leave and take the convicts with them rumor was new troops were being sent the miners weren't done though they marched on and reached the Knoxville iron company's mines in the afternoon they told that warden to get rid of the convicts warden said okie doke all righty thanks for stopping by very intimidating
Starting point is 00:28:22 group and I'm not an idiot so do your thing 117 convicts and 15 guards were walked to the train depot while 1500 armed miners followed behind them an awkward awkward walk yeah no and the people on the train are like cool yeah whatever you need whatever we can do but the train so they're waiting for the train and then the miners invited the that's an awkward weight yeah so what else what are you guys up to we're pissed cool uh what what's going on a lot I mean it's bullshit cool how about how about those times sorry go ahead how about those Titans what in the in the
Starting point is 00:29:18 future I'm not good at talking yeah trains coming soon three hours oh my god what we just missed the last one you're the first you're the first person I've ever talked to all right well terrible start want to see my stuff no what so before the train came they were waiting around and the miners decided to invite the militia guys to dinner what well there's no reason that we can't eat together break a little bread right some went and the miners and the soldiers ended up getting along great that's nice many of the troops belong to the same fraternal orders as the miners oh just so they ate food they had a good time and
Starting point is 00:30:15 as they left one of the troops yelled what's the matter with the miners and the other troops replied quote they are all right so they're having a good time fucking it's just it's just a different time with language it's not fair to judge but as far as just like around I mean that's just confusing from top to bottom yeah matter with the miners they are all right so nothing is what they're saying better than not they're good yeah they're great miners what's their problem we like them all right great cheer boys good cheer outside 30 women offered the soldiers baskets of food and water as they left
Starting point is 00:30:56 so they're trying to fucking butter these guys up right yeah it's also interesting that it was nice and past showing up yeah obviously this didn't make the mine owners look great well the miners seem reasonable a mine owner DB Jenkins came out to show why mine owners should never speak in public was it a rule I'm excited was it a rule that if you had a lot of money and were a dickhead that you could only have initials for the first part of your name yeah that's just like the flag of an asshole oh 100% I'm DB Jenkins fucking asshole yeah it's just a must yeah Rockefeller JD real dickhead I am
Starting point is 00:31:50 so DB said so this is DB's this is DB's moment to shine he said the mine owners have been notified that if they did not take an agreement that convict laborers would be brought in because stockholders had invested 50,000 so the mine had to be kept working when you pay him more when he said when the miners heard the extortion like demand they just laughed and told the company to go for it so the strikes all their fault the whole thing is their fault right and he went on to say that the miners leader Eugene Merrill had once been employed by the
Starting point is 00:32:26 mine but quote on account of his dictatorial manner was compelled to seek other employment and went into the merchant business okay in truth Merrill was a union organizer and had been fired for organizing DB then said Merrill was probably the very guy he himself had talked about in his speech about ripping off the miners in his store that's a swing so he's saying that cuz Merrill was a store owner was jacking at prices right Merrill was talking about himself when he talked did the speech about the bad store owners okay I told you he shouldn't talk in truth Merrill had run it ran a store but instead of ripping
Starting point is 00:33:05 off miners he advanced them 1500 a merchandise hoping that when the strike ended they would pay him back so good guy yeah and the owner said the miners were paid in cash not scripts which is but they also did have a company mine store but that was just so the miners could feed their families which some companies did as a script system so hmm he literally said that we're not doing that except for there where we do it with them we have to it's sorry his mine Cole Kreek used a punch-out system which is like taking advance on a check Jenkins said we still basically have yeah it's called a payday loan yeah
Starting point is 00:33:46 Jenkins said the miners were so depraved they would advance against their pay to buy liquor each day instead of waiting for payday to get cash from the company right but that's fine I mean if I worked in a coal mine yeah I would just get shit-faced all the time absolutely yeah in the in the coal mine that's a bad move it's a pretty safe job I thought that was up I should not be doing this right now we're deep it's a super safe job so you just get shit-faced down there and oh it is oh because in my head it seems super no coal mine there's not one coal miner has ever died on the job it's just that I feel like on this
Starting point is 00:34:22 podcast okay if you say so I trust you man no it's the only it's the only profession no one's died doing or all of them quote such men as Marilyn his followers have no one to blame but themselves for the appearance of the convict labor at the mine he's still going yeah he's a fucking is there anyone around him like buddy pull the db let's pull that plug let's let's end this so they thought you know the owners thought they were awesome the go the governor be canning cam and met with the different parties the miners agreed to a 60 day truce after governor promised to call a special session of the state
Starting point is 00:34:57 legislature and recommend the convict lease law be repealed right okay fucking winning well no hiatus now they're getting there on pause they're half time calling the state like what they do with cricket they just are like having a supper for a couple days and then they'll play in a couple more they had a call on the state legislature oh yeah oh right have faith in them right no yeah for sure so the convict labor's return on July 26th headline was all as well and it appears it'll end that way what in what the optimist weekly in what that is so vague and by the way a headline will never see again no sorry
Starting point is 00:35:39 gang that's not yeah that's not happening is it oh my god I mean only in like a zine in like a little town that is underground hello did you hear everything's good what we we found a little water it's a big week down here I I read it's all fucked weekly they're all so good heart-hitting politicians were both parties strongly denounced the convict lease system okay everyone's coming out against it they're all fucking on board what is that like to see your government like unite over something that's right it's gonna be crazy like for pressure to matter for people to like put pressure on for them to be
Starting point is 00:36:27 like well we should respond they've told us what we should do instead of like don't answer questions unplug the phones hide under the desks we'll wait this shit out oh so my little bird friend who's animated is here finally I thought it's not like someone was calling their dog yeah but so now all the politicians are saying they're against the lease system because all the people are obviously against it the governor called a special session to consider convict leasing on August 31st two big questions should they terminate the current convict leasing contract which would have which was set to expire in 1895 what
Starting point is 00:37:07 year are we in now it's 1891 okay and then and then if that happened what would they do with the convicts they got rid of that we're in the system because they right don't have any money to pay for them okay well you can create a this great thing where they're let them go slaves what yeah yeah exactly you could let them go but then they they'd be out running around and then how would you get stuff out of the mines how would you get free work is the question stuff out of the mines free work from it's not free because I pay the how would you continue I pay the guy who runs the prison oh a hundred grand and then he
Starting point is 00:37:40 doesn't have anybody to take care of it he just sits around his house with money and then all the people work he has nothing to do with so much has changed it does sound like Amazon so it's like 20% the rest are like I love it very convenient I am super against it yeah I have prime but it's just but it's bad it is disgusting what they do but once that blender gets here I'm only gonna hang around for a little while longer you know it's just like these people who are part of the problem I actually ordered a book about it from Amazon about how to sort of deal with the world now and change your life and that's why you know
Starting point is 00:38:34 I'm getting a lot of I'm really just I'm meditating more with this whole little area I've created I'm decorating with a bunch of stuff from Amazon they have this whole thing with the man I work at Amazon and Alexa I love my life without Alexa oh my God Lex has done I got my wife because I could just talk to that little thing all day yeah oh well no they made an Alexa with a hole now so you don't even I don't even need yeah yeah I left my wife years ago since they made the fuck Alexa the Alexa fuck yeah which is weird because I got rid of my wife Alexa oh yeah oh it's amazing it's just like I just having sex with him like I'm
Starting point is 00:39:20 loving it she's like McDonald's nearby I'm like not now she loves McDonald's Alexa loves McDonald's always so for some reason days and days went by and no legislation was passed weird how that works on September 10th things started heating up again 25 our militiamen were sent to Bryceville to guard the East Tennessee coal mining company the militiamen were supposed to get ten dollars a week with rations okay there was no end date for the assignment when the militia arrived the rich rich mine owner Goodwin inspected their guns only three were worth carrying what yeah they came with not not working guns sort of
Starting point is 00:40:11 takes the teeth out of a militia a little bit it's not great it's not great yeah so what do we have props we got a bunch of props I got a rubber axe yeah rubber axe so he got them working guns he bought them all new guns okay DB Jenkins said a letter to an attorney in Cole Creek asking him to quote break down E Irish and Eugene Merrill's character and make your own charges but be sure to get away with it I mean yeah it's just it's I like to call that incriminating I don't know about everyone else I'm not I'm not give a fuck Jenkins DB deliberately blatant just twirling my moustache the attorney was unable to find anything on
Starting point is 00:41:15 the union leaders the coal creek mines decided this would be a great time to cut pay feels ill-timed they dropped the wages of cart drivers from 50 cents a day to 10 cents a day oh shit just just an 80% pay cut that's all nothing big now this is gonna sound shocking but they went on strike across the district if you can believe that what I know I can take your dime and be happy hey I'm you could be a convict now it's easier to carry there's a plus that is a plus after three weeks of debating the legislative legislature came up with a great solution I'm sure they did they made it a felony to interfere with the convict
Starting point is 00:42:10 leasing system interesting and authorize the governor to take any action necessary to protect it so they did the it's so weird have you ever heard of this in America where they say they're gonna do something and they do something else and then they make it illegal to get upset about it or do anything about it it's almost like they scream and scream and scream and then when they have a chance to change it they don't do anything that's weird yep be proud god bless this mess a fucking eagle should fly through here right now that's how awesome we should travel with an eagle or a falcon of some kind so then
Starting point is 00:42:49 the legislature adjourned after passing that those awesome things strangely the politicians had been talking out of their asses when they made their speeches and now they had made things worse the politicians do you think you read that back make sure he's read the right group yeah the politicians have been talking about it was them yeah so the miners have one one final hope they're all put the pin in the hopes on the court system the state Tennessee state court system yes what you guys all love I can tell very progressive from what I'm hearing there was a case in the courts claiming the
Starting point is 00:43:30 poor conditions inmates worked in and lived in violated state law seems like a slam dunk Dave yeah it had been incidentally wasn't around back then yeah there was no slam dunk that came in the 1980s there is some time when that happened and it was like the high five oh yeah we did it was like if people like what the hell the fuck you can't do that so the the case had been brought by a mine inspector George Ford and one of the mine owners DB Jenkins said Ford knew nothing about mines and if he was given a map of mines he would understand them about as much as a shoemaker would and therefore it was a competent for him to
Starting point is 00:44:24 make any report on mines or mining slam was that if you looked at maps of the mines he wouldn't know anything more than a shoemaker yeah what well if you showed a map a mind map to a shoemaker the shoemaker would be like yeah it goes down and then over there I know exactly what kind of shoes you'll need to get down there no you don't understand the premise of what I'm trying to do here sir but he's he was saying this is about a mine inspector who needs to know everything about mine right yeah it is a huge slam for sure the case moved quickly and reached the Tennessee State Supreme Court in October of 1891 okay
Starting point is 00:45:05 yes is it a yes the ruling was against the miners of course citing the sanctity of contracts you can never break the sanctity of a contract that was the miners last hope for salvation for a living a decent life for hope that the wives and children would not starve reaction was pretty quick on October 31st the Tennessee coal mining company stockade was burned to the ground shit and 150 convicts were set free okay well we like convicts getting free do we quote a terrible explosion occurred close to the stockade that fairly shook the mountains round about the explosion was
Starting point is 00:45:53 followed by rifle firing and many of the citizens of Bryceville immediately took to the nearest station with the hopes of making a freight train then do then do yeah it's just a way to say on this train coming okay locals gave the convicts clothing and told them to run for it okay yeah the convicts were seen running towards coal creek changing their clothes as they went what size shoe are you let me measure your inseam unless you know it offhand thank God for these tailors being in the trenches over here take this you'll look great don't forget your kerchief goodbye a chain conductor
Starting point is 00:46:44 said most of the convicts seem to be running towards Kentucky so they were like that way okay meanwhile the guards and miners were shooting at each other the assistant of prisons said what he left the stockade had been burned and he saw sheets of flame and heard shooting then he went to his home on Bell Street for the evening what's he was like well it's five o'clock that's the end of that there's no stockade anymore nothing for me to do here gotta get out of here good night farewell how was work fine whatever usual stuff staring at a bunch of paperwork in the morning everybody ran off for my hands yes prepare my hand
Starting point is 00:47:28 milk that's a thing obviously we do here at everyone I'm familiar with Tennessee thank you a witness said the woods were full of people in convicts fleeing in terror while the shooting continued around the stockade quote fires were started on the hilltops which were undoubtedly intended to summon the miners in surrounding areas the witness arrived here scantily clad barefooted and with no hat you can go somewhere barefoot scantily clad but if you're not wearing a hat you better get a fucking hat on what are you doing oh my god you're worth to the murderer sir you had less monster where is your hat get
Starting point is 00:48:16 my gun Betty we got a hatless man out here I'll break into the emergency hat drawer well we've got a lot of options sir put a hat on or get away from my wife it's okay he's got a hat on now come out everybody sorry you had to see that son what was underneath there god damn it do we have some kind of memory wipe for the boy I have another hat you've got PTSD now all right everyone put on hats and let's gather in the living room my god headline the next morning quote man doesn't have hat it's anarchy in the hills it's head anarchy what has become of America we're not a hatless land
Starting point is 00:49:36 headline the next morning quote peaceful quiet has come after the storm was this the leaf Chronicle again there I mean just garbage headlines what just tell me what's going on that looks like it's a weather forecast if it's in the paper you're like oh it's gonna be a balmy weekend don't worry honey the sun's coming out it says the towering chimneys and smoldering pieces of timber lying on the ground were the only remnants of what had been at what had once been the headquarters of nearly 200 zebras and at one time the lamented home of the Tennessee militia locals were seen sifting through the ruins looking for
Starting point is 00:50:15 mementos they're gonna say mementos which is different yeah it's peppermint do-do-do-do searching through it oh that was a tooth the fresh maker at the end that was a tooth the fresh maker captain chumlee story been attacked captain chumlee's store had been is this the game of clue he was an agent of the Knoxville iron company and he lost around 2,500 worth of goods shoes were the most stolen item it's all the guys running yeah for sure and hats for sure you don't know that's also the stars the store itself was pretty smashed up the whole area looked bizarre quote one of the most peculiar sites ever seen is
Starting point is 00:51:17 that of zebra clothing scattered on both sides of the railroad all the way from Cole Creek to Bryceville it's gonna be hard to explain to your kids you know what's that oh well it's just convicts got naked what'll be fine they got on a train fine with a fucking daddy is there a comma in there I'm scared what not sure if a commas even been invented yet no it has semi-colons down the pipe whoever invented that people in towns like Clinton oh yeah it's still there are you from Clinton fuck yeah I told I knew we get to you at some point clintons are big here clintons were now no it's not here I know it turns out
Starting point is 00:52:22 they're not big anywhere the worst almost there's also there's actually someone worse it turns out people in towns like Clinton were now worried about a flood of convicts pouring in quote every available firearm of whatever size is out and citizens are patrolling the town to prevent an influx of convicts man oh man yeah one convict Richard Hubert telegraphed the governor and said they'd all been released and they didn't know what to do he telegraphed the governor the governor was like what I think they want to hang out governor's like well fucking run for it like what are you insane we're coming to get you go hi what
Starting point is 00:53:16 have you ever done this before don't message me looks weird eventually most of the 458 convicts released were rounded up and put in overcrowded jails in Knoxville and Nashville been listening a lot or what's the deal convicts were sleeping on any floor space available it was so packed a prison official predicted the convicts would be dying like sheep within less than a week what was up with sheep I know I was gonna say they're dying rapidly they just keep dying when I put them in my house I pack them in they die I pack them in they die every time I put
Starting point is 00:54:01 sheep in my house they die so how am I gonna fall asleep if I ain't counting them which gave me an idea there was discussion of bringing up assistant commissioner of labor and mines almond on charges of treason the lead chronicle the leaf chronicle here we go here said the punishment would be death by hanging several soldiers claimed almond said he would resign his office and take up his gun to aid the miners he was also said to have met with the miners and incited them to attack okay fucking fucking government bastard sure anyway he didn't die he didn't die but when I read that in the paper I was like this
Starting point is 00:54:48 would be cool and then nothing a second truce was negotiated the miners agreed to allow the convicts to return to Cole Creek and Oliver Springs but not Bryceville okay the state argued by the way I when I was looking up so about Bryceville their post office closed in 2011 so Bryceville the state argued with the prison system about who would pay for capturing the convicts and for guarding them when they went back to the mines calling up the militia had cost a hundred and fifty thousand dollars which is more than the least system saved right okay and the stockades had to be rebuilt so it's almost it's almost like
Starting point is 00:55:35 attacking property when fighting oppression in a capitalist system is effective anyway that's a troubling conclusion anyway excuse me any who what do you mean any who any who's what I'm just saying if you attack property it costs them money and then then they might stop doing it let's keep going so 84 militiamen were sent to Cole Creek and Oliver Springs under the command of J Keller Anderson J killer and killer different far different hello my name is J killer oh god I'm Jay when the train arrived at Cole Creek station 200 men and boys stood around watching the train moved up to the stockade and the men and
Starting point is 00:56:24 boys followed they were all looking at a gatling gun the soldiers had brought with them Jesus that seems pretty I mean your boys want to look at it pull that trigger a little huh fun isn't it the troops marched in single file to the stockade Anderson then went about building what he then named Fort Anderson interesting as the ego up on militia hill the gatling gun his idea okay well then he deserved the credit they raised the US flag and the troops cheer they raised the US flag and the troops cheered and then a minor yelled quote it won't stay there long we'll shoot it down and you with it and then then all
Starting point is 00:57:08 the miners cheered oh boy I don't know how I feel about a flag off on November 16th the local paper wrote a visitor would hardly know there had been so much trouble the miners were almost at work full-time they seemed cheerful having won a battle getting the convicts at a Bryceville they did not seem to fear any consequences there were no rumors of coming trouble sounds like that headline was right oh David David David naturally that wasn't going to work for the mine owners weird on December 22nd three days before Christmas the Tennessee coal iron and railroad company issued an order for two other convicts to be sent to Bryce
Starting point is 00:57:51 ville the one town they had all agreed upon the company would not send convicts to they were blowing up the deal with a big nice those goddamn unions right yeah no I'm sure this is gonna go over fine surely we're nothing eventful the convicts returned to Bryceville on January 30 they must have felt good too they were probably pretty excited to head over there fucking love and I love us over there hi guys on a way game forever when they arrived soldiers posed for a photograph what full they were with their gum guns aimed at quote an escaping black convict like they're faking they're faking they're faking like he was
Starting point is 00:58:41 escaping and they're aimed their guns at him like it was like a joke for a him to play sure yeah fun part for him photo I think we got it let's do two more one goofy faces gilby face do they go oh I don't do that one then one of the soldiers accidentally fired his gun killing the convict shut up oh but what a picture what a photo I know it's horrible and someone had to die but what a goddamn photograph get yourself a Pulitzer for that that's crazy anyway that's a hard that's our letter to write the family I was probably like I don't know like this photo thing we're doing let's not do this where's my head don't
Starting point is 00:59:31 worry the safety's off occasionally miners would sneak into the hills and shoot at Fort Anderson soldiers would then fire back with the Gatling gun Jesus so they're like we're not gonna shoot down there anymore they have a big gun big big gun real big crazy gun some soldiers on leave just deserted so they would they would get sent on leave and they would just take off that's so man permanently nothing better if soldiers left the fort people would shoot at them in the town Jesus to amuse themselves the soldiers started packing oyster cans with mud and firing
Starting point is 01:00:09 it into the town below I mean that is quite a prank though when you're like more free oyster more mad boy those oysters are not agreeing with me they are two of those sky tins man real muddy oysters to the kind where you couldn't even find the oyster I am mud up sorry I'm looking for oyster can I moved keep doing a little funny thing I'm out I don't know if you heard the fizzle but we peaked three-quarters of the way through Dave so I'm gonna need you to start getting back on track no oyster can imagine a what by early August the miners were saying remove the soldiers or quote there is going to be
Starting point is 01:01:12 big trouble okay so that's pretty that's not great I mean now in the mining town of Tracy City the company recently reduced coal output so they cut the paid miners hours in half okay but kept the convict hours the same you know why I my guess is because one of them was technically slavery yes had a feeling that's great the prison stockade was burned and this convicts were driven out okay Tracy City guards sped off to a convict camp in a nearby town of Inman but they didn't get there in time the governor received a telegram from the warden at Inman quote the convicts have been released by a mob of 200 men are
Starting point is 01:01:55 and are awaiting transit at the train station what is the reward for the leaders and men in the mob so he's already looking for cash he's like how can I make money out of this that's his first response a witness at Inman said the guards could have easily held off the mob but the miners armed with axes demolished the stockades they also had lanterns so it was super obvious what they were gonna do could see everything super clear to see one side of a wall was cut down a roof was crushed interiors were destroyed officials were also very suspicious about the timing of a meeting that had happened a committee of miners
Starting point is 01:02:33 from Cole Creek were giving resolutions to the governor at the exact time the stockade was attacked well I mean that's just an alibi council yeah yeah Eugene Merrill was like I don't have anything to do with that shit down there the resolutions promised good behavior if the state troops were taken out except right now right right now in the Nashville banner called the miners quote thieves robbers ruffians and outlaws how many papers were there oh my god 800 it's fucking it's like every dude is like I'm gonna make a paper I found a paper called the comet I mean fuck off how much it's like you're not even
Starting point is 01:03:10 trying that obviously Superman work there yeah yeah the comet and what do you wear space news news from space everyone makes a paper for themselves on August 16th a hundred miners surrounded Fort Anderson Fort a leader yelled quote close up boys sorry close up boys let's take them close up close up or close up close up close up close up close up close up because close up boys not close up he didn't go close up he was like close up boys his guys I wasn't looking for me more photo shoots which I'm like out for let's do the close ups oh you're talking about a whole different close up yeah I would think
Starting point is 01:03:58 they'd be saying close up like get them like close the fort yeah no he's saying everyone get close up close up okay sure whatever there's a good talk it wasn't no people were it's a gripping tense moment in the podcast oh yeah look yeah we're gonna put a shirt called close up and then on the back it'll say reads the same close up that's what it'll say on the back hard to tell which side of the argument I'm on close up hashtag close up anyway say close up boys let's take him goddamn them someone in the fort yield back come on and get us if you can well and then the shooting started it went on for a half an
Starting point is 01:04:46 hour a thousand rounds were exchanged just America used to be so fucking crazy the next day miners attacked the prison stockade at Oliver Springs they were beaten back by the guards a much larger group of miners then arrived in support and the guards surrendered okay that stockade was burned and the comics put on a train private citizens in Knoxville raised an art a volunteer army to combat the miners businessmen with no experience dealing with this sort of situation joined up I'll hit him with my briefcase how does this work that's when you tie the tie around your head let's do this I'm in oh my god wait till
Starting point is 01:05:30 you get to the end oh no oh no oh my name is Roy business class sir I sell insurance sir what are we gonna do here thousand soldiers and volunteers headed for Cole Creek on foot they marched across mountains but then night came and they found themselves deep in the forest this sucks in the morning they were ambushed by miners okay so it went really well they had a nice hike and then lost two of them were killed Jesus okay the volunteers said there were somewhere between 65 and 500 miners do you have an on-site estimator is anyone here who here can is there any a guesstimate or roughly I'd say they're
Starting point is 01:06:27 about 500 okay and that's for sure 500 or 65 okay so that's where we're sort of finding a problem area yeah personally okay would you say it was 200 no little bit less I'd say less it's about 135 less than 200 did you say it's 65 or 500 yeah it's between 65 and 500 just rounding up any number in between yeah it's yeah you either saw 65 yep people or 500 people yeah it's between those two I don't think you know the definition of between yeah don't say yeah yeah yeah it was like 500 was it 500 it was like yeah up to 500 up to 500 yeah as in 499 no no that's up to then it was fine no I mean between 65 and 500 that's not
Starting point is 01:07:31 what between is think so don't say think so no so no I think so you don't think so so I didn't go to school how many fingers how many fingers am I holding up it's between between seven and four and four yeah between seven and four actually 12 what the fuck are you talking about it's between 12 and four it is not I was just doing the math yeah but you can hold up a couple extra ones all right all right okay anyway I'm just saying we need help because there's a lot of guys and there's only a thousand of us no there's not they got us out numbered what are you talking there's a thousand of us between 65 and 500 of them
Starting point is 01:08:31 so they have us outnumbered we're in a lot of shit here it's like Vietnam stop what no that's that's it I'm off to Hawaii I'm done I'm Taiwanese I'm out of here I am taking a flying boat there right away territory or not later it was determined there were a total of six minors hey man so we just wanted to circle back with you real quick because I wanted to give you an update because I know you said that you saw but what now what was it again you saw between 65 right between 65 and 500 that's right well
Starting point is 01:09:27 I've got great news what's that we did a head count yeah yeah oh you got it you got it nailed down we figured out if it was 65 or 500 oh between as some idiots yeah yeah well that was a nice and you want to know what's that little bit less it was six yeah that's that's what I said between 65 and 500 between six to five and 500 is what you were 65 and 500 you a lot of numbers in there there's 66 there's 76 there's 86 there's sixes took a train to get here to get you have to go back to my job at teaching I had a happy life in Hawaii I had opened a surf shop in the territory and then I just saw this and I wanted to
Starting point is 01:10:25 come over here to make you eat grow and here you are still dumb as shit miners are huge though so six can look like 500 they come at you I'm out of here I'm running and I'm leaving they're covered they're covering coal so they look like more guys this conversation has been over for a while the leader of the volunteers was so exhausted he had to be hauled back to the railroad on a farm wagon so he had a that guy it's a fun ride that guy was bad at what he did was doing the fighting continued to Fort Anderson in a morning attack soldier SL Waterman was killed by a premature discharge of a cannon well so I'm
Starting point is 01:11:18 assuming he put the he was like putting the ball in and then that was like coming like I'm assuming he put it in and then out it came and since he was here that was probably not good for him he got hit by a cannonball very insinuative language a lot of the way through that private Smith was sniped and killed shots echoed through the valley for days incoming soldiers were stuck on trains that were backed up on the tracks everything was getting tense and nervous from the journal quote as the shouting of official orders went along the lines of guards a terrified member of the army drew a Winchester
Starting point is 01:11:59 rifle he had stolen from under his seat threw himself flat on his back in the aisle and pumped 15 bullets into the roof of the train car today he is swaggering about his home lying about the way he drove away the miners so wait what did he do so he dropped to his back and just started shooting the roof you know the train the train roof right yeah and then and then he was like I got rid of him but prove he didn't you know what I mean we didn't I mean you'd have to go outside the train to prove something like that thank you hard in another car would fell on the floor and a six-year-old volunteer yelled quote
Starting point is 01:12:38 they're blowing us up with dynamite and everyone jumped out of the train did you say a six-year-old 60 60 60 no six-year-olds are in the back car okay sure yeah I'm sure they're there somehow okay so okay so what he's like dynamite yeah but it was just a log run and everyone did General Carnes rolled in and took over Cole Creek by force he ordered all volunteer citizens to return to their homes the casualty among troops came to five killed and and 15 wounded six miners were killed in the attack they arrested any minor they could find 65 or 500 between 65 and 500 miners were killed thank you they
Starting point is 01:13:23 rested any minor they could find and place them first in boxcars and then in the schoolhouse and then in the church his soldiers arrested around 500 miners martial law was declared some miners refused to surrender and were hunted down Jesus soldiers were led as deep as one mile down into mines to capture them holy shit that that's a fun movie that should oh yeah that someone should make that into a movie that's when you're way into your lantern what happened what's everybody yelling anyone get what oh in the oh I hope it just makes for a better story yeah I should have I didn't read that anybody did but someone had to
Starting point is 01:14:04 have right yeah are you doing a side podcast with this guy yeah this is your replacement hands off my man stop asking fucking questions it's my job how long has this been going on you see they're sort of on my side in a way that's sad it's sad not how you support someone I love you too sir I think he was I think he was talking to me and my new podcasting partner Bert the Burton Dave show the ball up what's your new show called it's called the boil why I just come up with stupid names that's why so by the end of it all 27 miners were killed well it's a nice
Starting point is 01:15:12 treacle cutter to the moment yeah but you know I mean we all know how this turns out for coal miners they win the Knoxville Knoxville Journal headline quote capturing miners is fun oh my god what too many papers that's the problem everyone's making a paper I mean but the back then papers were like you would open it because you were like a liberal or a lefty like you you would start a paper to just get your side out there well I mean again that's gone so far that doesn't happen so far away from our echo chambers thank god yeah thank god go ahead capturing miners is fun somehow tables are turned during this
Starting point is 01:16:03 campaign armed miners easily submit and the state militia exhibit unusual game behind every boulder in the hills where the miners were fortified our piles of shells and cartridges they're picked up and exhibited as relics of war a citizen brought in a flag of truce yesterday morning and in a few minutes it was cut to pieces for relics so they everyone just love relics yeah now it's just people getting you know some something for the kids to show in their school yeah the fishers realized the number of miners that had actually been fighting was vastly overestimated instead of up to 12,000 miners involved in the
Starting point is 01:16:44 Coal Creek War it was less than a thousand and some I know who they were getting the numbers from oh yeah I was watching the whole thing 12,000 at least at least between 12,000 and four had to be where I should go my work here is done I have a 530 meeting between them five anyway so they're actually probably around 500 that we're fighting on August 28th most of the soldiers had left the coal Creek area most had to return to the regular jobs or they'd be fired there were only about oh the irony there were only about 300 militiamen left in the area a Knoxville Journal editorial blamed the miners who
Starting point is 01:17:44 supported them quote organized labor what follies Jesus oh my god I would give anything for someone of Fox News to say that just anything what follies union members what follies what crimes have been committed in thy name let it be understood once and for all that this constant preaching about mine owners and manufacturers being monopolist is untrue oh my god that it is not only unjust but dishonest and that all good men of all parties will unflinchingly fight against such demagogue clap trap and we will and we will have taken the first and longest step toward a
Starting point is 01:18:40 correction of evils that is threatening to sap the very lifeblood of this nation what year was the period it was that it just it wasn't yet but obviously obviously the miners are the problem yeah they're there oh you can just like it so you get a 80% pay cut but be happy to have a job yeah I mean you can just but truly you can just see it today I mean it is just the same shit the thing walking into the camera like guys come on the thing is on the right side it's I keep trying to make this point why can't one guy have all the money it would it would be better because at least then it would feel like we knew exactly where to
Starting point is 01:19:27 direct everything instead it's this weird buckshot where you just don't know where the fuck to look because there's like 900 different fires that you have to put out I would much rather just be like he lives up there let's go fucking cut his head off support that so the overwhelming nature of now where you're like I don't know what to do check Twitter sir gentlemen I know some of you're upset I don't support cutting heads off I think I think we should put them in blenders seriously just see some guy wheeling out a giant blender yeah here we go where are the Koch brothers and I mean again it's like if you're
Starting point is 01:20:23 gonna put the system on trial get the Vitamix on Amazon you can get it in like nine like it'll get there super fast that's how you get the blender to show the corporate heads I will take if I'm looking for a product I will take a good 30 seconds looking for it for some from somewhere else before I go to Amazon so I'm doing my part yeah for sure yeah I don't know what that means I think Anne Landers is here yep the paper said the mine the mine operators were not making any money and hadn't been for some time these good men kept miners employed when they were losing money and the laborers should thank them
Starting point is 01:21:09 for it quote before the employer can afford to pay good wages he must himself be prosperous oh man it's called trickle down they should be happy yes 350 yes 450 per day they make set the editorial even though no one was paid more than 250 oh my god are you still a numbers guy like you need that stuff to prove a point you could say whatever number and it's fine what oh you're such a fact stickler you love what's accurate it's just as weird whereas I like guesstimations I like to have a little fun I've lost everyone the mine owners agreed to pay the cost of the battle 300 miners and others involved in the
Starting point is 01:22:11 Col Creek uprisings were indicted many fled the state Eugene Merrill fled before he could be charged or brought to trial he had already declared bankruptcy having never gotten back the money for letting the striking miners run up tabs at his store almost all who went to trial were acquitted or found guilty and then only find but one organizer was sentenced to seven years the press said he was quote an outsider from Chattanooga he's an outsider Chattanooga motherfuckers you don't come up into this bitch there's a famous saying here let's get your Chattanooga ass out of here
Starting point is 01:22:56 aggressive she was quote an outsider from Chattanooga who had come to Anderson County to spread his anarchist philosophy he was really stepped in two years Eugene Merrill was spotted in Indiana six months after the skirmishes were over it was believed he was going to be arrested but he escaped again the Tennessee legislature let the convict lease contracts expire in 1896 five years after the fighting started okay well we'll take it so that's good so a little bit of progress yeah it's what we are yes it's oh but then they built the brushy mountain state penitentiary to purchase land and had convicts mine
Starting point is 01:23:36 called directly for the state just wait why are we we could be making money off this shit we were let's do it again yeah in 1936 a state senator named Robert Lindsey convinced the Tennessee legislature to change the name of coal Creek to Lake City hoping to make it a tourist destination go swimming that coal you enjoyed it welcome to Lake City Rocky Top well they changed it to Lake City for a while and that didn't take really and then it didn't take and now it's Rocky Top look I tried to keep reading that article but I started reading it and a guy was just saying how all the miners were rich and I couldn't
Starting point is 01:24:28 read it anymore because he literally said the miners were rich and he was calling himself a historian and then I blew my brains out those goddamn rich miners what do you have clothes the fair and balanced time on May 17th 2013 Tennessee declared an end to the 1892 coal Creek war and the what wait sorry something I'm rubbing up against is how I've been alive for a good part of this war it turns out yeah I told you this story took place between 1877 2013 yeah you're good kid yeah May 17th 2013 well let's end this Tennessee
Starting point is 01:25:40 declared an end to the 1892 coal Creek war and a peace treaty was signed at the location and there's just 900-year-old minor in there like fine I mean I may show long I've been in this goddamn mine well good news boys we finally got something to celebrate it just open this bottle of wine oh it's evaporated oh I guess we've been waiting a while and wait to tell the wives no they've also evaporated hey Trump's president well that's it we strike we got one more in us oh no everyone else is evaporated the hell's my deal no
Starting point is 01:26:51 so so the peace treaty was signed at the location of Fort Anderson students from Bryceville Elementary School played homemade instruments as the treaty was signed oh boy yeah homemade it's someone someone hitting a chair with a stick clank clank clank it's called a harp nano another kid's banging a rock against a tree clunk clunk Bryceville clunk clunk I'll be playing my stomach Bobby's going to fart well I can only do to a Republican state senator and I wish I'd written down his name but I didn't Republican state senator quote this is a great way to
Starting point is 01:27:51 involve young people in history yes it sure is it sure he was wearing a green bandana like those he said were worn by striking miners what is there I could find absolutely no mention of anyone wearing green bandanas I think at all but it's like he said that moment when they put on yeah there he is bushy mountain state penitentiary continued producing coal using prison labor until 1966 but the cool thing about prison labor is is that I'm sure you can go look up what your state does I didn't get a chance fuck you might be a prison break but there's really great companies that use prison labor now yeah Nordstrom Nordstrom
Starting point is 01:28:45 has their clothes made in prison and so if you're wearing Nordstrom it's a sweet buck 25 an hour from some poor guy in prison and you wear that around but almost all of our all of our big great companies who are very successful like who else oh there's a giant fucking you want me to look it up I mean well yeah if we're gonna start boycotting when you talk about something yeah coal department stores get him nah it sounds like a nice tie-in nice try coals instead of a C and a will do a K and H calls okay so it says right here Tennessee yeah it doesn't list them I'm sorry CCA corrections corporation America private
Starting point is 01:29:37 operator what are the big ones well I know North I mean in the country there are just tons right yeah if you Victoria's Secret that's the secret that's great some guys sit finally is it really Victoria's Secret could you imagine being some dude and just you're in prison man that is hot that is like fucked up on two levels right that's wrong and then the guys like and then the breasts was slowly Jerry don't fuck that machine again I won't all right
Starting point is 01:30:28 okay you ready I got you ready for the list yeah all right so these are these are companies that use prison labor Whole Foods this is tough start McDonald's they make their containers they're all the things you eat with the forks uniform so if you ask them to give you some a sandwich in your hand loophole I don't put it in a bag or anything just drop it in my hand 58 weird Victoria's Secret AT&T call centers that explains a lot British Petroleum used the prisoners to clean up the oil spill which is doubly messed up as well because that's you're like yeah get in the chemicals yeah get
Starting point is 01:31:31 in the Bank of America Bear Cargill Caterpillar Chevron Chrysler Costco John Deere Ellie Lillian company Eli Lillian company Exxon Mobile Glaxo Glaxo Smith Klein Johnson and Johnson Kmart Coke Industries McDonald's Merck Microsoft Motorola Nintendo Pfizer Procter and Gamble Pepsi Conagra Foods Shell Starbucks UPS Verizon Walmart Wendy's Wendy there you go I mean that but that is right you ask at times how do you like make how do you change shit you stop buying shit from and that and that's honestly that's not even the ones that yeah it's fun to boycott I'm excited to boycott Whole Foods
Starting point is 01:32:20 officially it's been a long time coming and that Kiwi's year around something's off so you know if you've heard lately the prisoners are trying to go on strike and stuff but it's hard because you're in prison yeah but it's it's a legit problem and it's like it is it is modern-day slavery because we're actually putting people in prison who like should you be in prison for pot no should you get a life there they are but they're getting put in prison like California we changed the laws right POTS legal did we release the prisoners so retro no no release the prisoners and our and and our our new senator Kamala Harris said
Starting point is 01:33:03 quote we can't release the prisoners because we use them as labor well Dave but Republicans say a lot of oh wait but it's a legit problem and you know it needs to be stopped I don't know how we do it but there you go yeah killer Mike called it the cornerstone of US economics what's a killer Mike you cornerstone of US economics killer Mike that's what he called it yeah Mike killer Mike not the guy from around the jewel is the guy we know that kills people yeah yeah yeah yeah he's the guy who smashes these when we leave okay hacky end we expected it I think this guy's
Starting point is 01:33:54 from the future he's like it ends now I'm sorry to those of you who are conservative Trump supporters you came here for a fun night and and I told you the truth thank you very much guys we appreciate it truly thank you

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