The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 347 - NY Policeman's Riot w/Dave Hill (Live in NY)

Episode Date: October 9, 2018

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds are joined by Dave Hill to examine the  New York City Policeman's riot.   SOURCES OFFICIAL MERCH TOUR DATES...

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Starting point is 00:00:45 called witch taint. Did you say witch tits? Witch taint no I would never say witch tits I'm not a weirdo. No witch taint. Give it up for my buddy Dave Hill. Mr. New York. Dave-o. Mr. New York. Oh you got a microphone. Hi pleasure to meet you. Hi Dave Anthony nice to meet you. Yeah hi. Two Dave's. So tell me about which one believe. Tell me about witch tits. Taint. Witch taint but your way is good too. I like that you're on like the ventriloquist dummy stool. Yeah why am I why just how hard it is. How's our little guy. How's our little guy. I'm your little guy. Little guy. But I'm but yep. It's how we do it. We don't we definitely don't want you to be higher than us. No but this is what we do
Starting point is 00:01:31 after the joint I suppose. That's what we do the guests. Usually we may guest it on the floor. Yeah. Normally we put them in a sleeping bag and they lay at the end and we just shake our heads at their bits. No thanks for having me. You're welcome. And then the chair thing is fine. Yeah no no. Nobody will be able to hear that. It's good because I'm closer to the people. Yeah. No for sure. Yeah. A man amongst them almost. Yeah. April 1834. The only podcast where people cheer for a date. That's a good date. Yeah. Pavlovian at this point. John Mark invented the self igniting cigar. What. What an opener. Yeah. Game in hot. Wait. What does that even mean. It. How does that. That's a dangerous thing to
Starting point is 00:02:26 get like a gag. Well obviously we'll find out. It's not still around so clearly it didn't take off. No. No just be lighting in your pocket. You'd be like no later later. Oh fuck. It was known as the Loco Foco. The Loco Foco. Loco Foco. Okay. I'm listening. He had misinterpreted the Latin meaning of Loco and thought it meant self instead of crazy. What does Poco mean. Poco. Yeah. Foco. Loco Foco. Loco Foco. Foco came from the Italian word for fire. Okay. So you got half. Right. Yeah. Crazy fire which is actually a better title for it probably because it will result in a crazy fire. So Loco Foco. He thinks he thinks it means it means self fire. Right. But it actually means crazy fire. Either way
Starting point is 00:03:20 it ended up being applied to matches because they had self lighting matches. It had self lighting matches. Yeah. I don't know. In 1937 New York's Democratic Party was split into two factions. The old school Tammany Hall types who ruled through corruption and the Equal Rights Party who were anti-corruption and union guys. Weird. Imagine. Yeah. During a meeting of Tammany Hall Democrats it was supposed to be secret so they could pick candidates in secret. Boy this sounds like a really weird time. Yeah. The Equal Rights Party barged in and took over the meeting so the Tammany men tried to stop it by turning off all the gas lights. That'll do it. Yeah. That will do it. That in that time. Nine times
Starting point is 00:04:07 out of ten. Yeah. Then closing time plays. Get them out. The Equal Rights guys kept the meeting going by using Loco Foco matches to light the candles. Why don't they have self lighting candles. Everything else is ignites itself. Why are they like. One step at a time. Yeah. I guess. No. Yeah. What are we going to rush for. Right. So the Equal Rights Party got the nickname the Loco Focos. The crazy fires is that's like what you name a child soccer team. Not your government with a Loco Focos. The crazy fires. Sure. We're self lighting. Can you even see your friend Gareth from there. You can. OK. I could do FaceTime to a few people if that helps. Stand over here for a minute. Go ahead. Now. Oh fuck him.
Starting point is 00:05:04 Burns. Fuck. He's your friend. You've known him for years. Don't worry about Burns. Let me handle Burns. Oh that's the guy from the dressing room. Yeah. And we call it. We call it. We call it the green room by the way. We're not really changing back there. All right guys. Costumes in five. Let's go. We brought Dave on the podcast because it was quickness. Yeah. I'm just happy to be out of the house. Yeah. Everyone from the dressing room is over there now. Not a dressing room. You know when I was a kid who's upstairs. No. Well I don't want to say nobody but I mean nobody unless there's one guy robbing us blind right now who's up there right now like nobody. There's the guy that helped me. Mastercard. The hand
Starting point is 00:05:48 towels in the bathroom. The butler in the bathroom is very helpful. The hand towels. So so they love the name that they were given the local Focos. They liked it or did not like they loved it. How do you spell Foco just so I can picture it in my mind's eye. I'm guessing F. No like F. F. O. F. O. C. O. F. O. C. O. F. O. That was the fun way I was hoping. Yeah. You could have gone a lot of ways. Yeah. Well no now it's like a fake custard shop in New York. Look Foco line out the door. Yeah. So the local Focos are opposed to the establishment corrupt Tammany Democrats. The local Foco Opo. Yeah. Yeah. The Opo. They're Opo. Opposed in 1836. No we couldn't not interrupt but no no no we're not interrupting.
Starting point is 00:06:54 Foco. No the local Foco Opo's would be the guy the original Tammany Hall guys. Yeah they'd be. Yeah. Yes. Okay. Sure. Whoever it is as long as the name catches fire. Yeah. I'm after. But it sort of ruins the T-shirt line. Your posture is fading. Well it was never there to begin with. I'm a big back support guy from way back. You've always had your backs back. So in 1836 there was a mayoral election and the local Focos got crushed. The established Democrats easily won and the Whigs came in second. But the Locos had made themselves known and were now part of the party. The Locos were a different breed of Democrat when new Democratic Mayor Cornelius Lawrence opened his house to the public on
Starting point is 00:07:44 New Year's Day 1837 which was a tradition to open your house. Yeah. He wasn't prepared for the influence. I wonder why we got rid of that. Yeah. We should bring it back. Oh my God. I would change. Well he's dead again. They keep coming in here and killing him. Maybe we should lock the doors. Thank you sir. One psychopath in the back like. So these new voters treated Lawrence's home like a five points tavern. Wig Philip Holm wrote in his diary quote every scamp who has balled out huzzah for Lawrence and down with the Whigs considered himself authorized to use him in his house and furniture at his pleasure to wear his hat in his presence. Wait they would wear his hat. This sounds a lot like
Starting point is 00:08:37 the dressing room. Putting on a gentleman's hat. I don't know if you know David but we have a dark history with hats. They've been with us every step of the way. Yeah. I'll talk to you in the dressing room. They smoke and spit on his carpet. So what they were literally turned it into a tavern. Like it's not that they just were like. They devoured his beef and turkey and his turkey. Who are these fuckers. I know. And they wiped their greasy fingers on his curtains. That we've all done that in a pinch. Wait I'm done clear. They didn't like him or what. They like him. They like him. They like him. They're making themselves at home. They're celebrating. Oh they're celebrating. It's a party. It seems
Starting point is 00:09:30 like. Yeah. The guys like I didn't want to be mayor. I don't like it anymore. My curtains are covered in my turkey grease. In 1837 just before the big financial panic hit speculators were doing their thing raising the price of flour which it turns out people eat. Hmm. They need that. Interesting. By February the price of flour shot up to twelve dollars a bushel from four dollars. The year two years before pork went up. So people started talking about the city's flour merchants. Is that really where you want to turn the screws on people like flour. Better areas. I mean at this time maybe. I don't know. Well if you have flour and nothing else then you fucking turn that screw. Have you never oppressed
Starting point is 00:10:15 people. Now with grains. No. He never has with grains. No I mean I always said that. Ask around. Yeah. Do your do your research on him Dave. He's never done it with grains. No. He's not for a weekend. Your line is grains. Your that's your line grains. That's where I draw the line. No. I mess with their kids for a little bit and then then I'll fuck with their grain. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah I'll take the kids you know drop them off a few blocks from home shit like that. Walk. What. That's you. Yeah. That's me. I don't know where I am. So rumors started flying that merchants were hoarding flour to drive up the price. The local folk leaders called the meeting at four local folk only. I mean it's
Starting point is 00:11:07 really like it is like the Dr. Seuss government at this point. They called for a meeting at four p.m. at City Hall on February 13th. Their slogan was simple. Red meat rent fuel. The price must come down. Just hit the basics. I think we can embrace that again now. Yeah. Five thousand people came. The leaders read demands. No one knows who the final speaker was that day. No one found out his name. But he stood up and he named a specific flower merchant Eli Hart and said we should all quote go after and offer him eight dollars a barrel for it. And if he will not take it that's when someone grabbed his shoulder and stopped him from talking. Oh what. And then he said quote we shall depart in peace. But it was
Starting point is 00:11:58 too late because someone in the crowd screamed to Hart's flower store. Wow. Yeah. OK. Yeah. And the New York flower riot of 1837 was off. Flower riot flower. I'm already picturing the after everyone's just in flower and flower. And then they get it all cleaned up and the chimp comes along and gets it started. No buttons. No. Buttons is in the flower now. No under last thing. Keep going. Oh you want to hear more. Yeah. Yeah. So they attacked flower merchant after flower merchant. They smashed desks and threw hundreds of barrels of flower and sacks of wheat onto the street. Why not just take the flower. Huh. I'll back off. So women would come up with their aprons on and fill their apron with flower and run
Starting point is 00:12:57 home. Surely there. I mean I don't mean to sound like the black and white infomercial person but there's got to be a better way. I got two handfuls in my apron. Didn't you have access to bags. Yeah. What did you do with the bags. Through them. Through it. Pushed through it. It looks like snow. Hundreds of pounds. Shit. I wish we talked. I wish we talked more. But when it was all over. The you know the people were demanding that the Merchant's Act responsibly for common good but the rich did not give two shits and denounced the writers as quote pillaging canal colored people thieves and Irish. Is that all one thing or a bunch of things. That's four different one group. Okay. They said the writers had
Starting point is 00:14:04 just made flowers scarcer and increase the prices. The end result was not a change in prices or more flower but more cops within 24 hours of the riot legislation was passed to hire 192 more watchmen. Okay. Good. So mission accomplished. Okay. You guys cops are awesome. Already. How come you're white. They're great. God. Real and weird. Topical. Yeah. It is topical. Thank you. No. So New York. New York chugs along for a while in the 1850s. The rich were not happy. Their city had fallen into the hands of the not wealthy. The. Right. The others. Yeah. The Democrats had gone into the pond of the the unwashed irony is with all the powder everywhere. The city even though it was already in olden times. Probably like
Starting point is 00:15:04 even more old timey. Don't you think with everyone dustier. Yeah. Yeah. Everything was sort of like this is the old west. Yeah. I don't know. Just thinking out loud. I'm going to go grab a seat. No. No. Do not grab a seat. I'm just worried. You know the comments section in the future. Don't operate from the comments section. David. Oh God. He's getting sick. Oh no. I'll be I'll be dead before this comes out. All right. Yeah. You got nothing to worry about. So the the wealthy felt like they knew how to run a government. But these sleazy cropped assholes who used gangs and immigrants to win were in charge. Gangs at this time were of course known to keep people from voting. They were called shoulder hitters because they
Starting point is 00:15:52 were just like bumping. You know. Yeah. You would go into a poll on this guy back. Check you. Hey was that an accident or are you a shoulder guy. I'm a shoulder hitter. Well then fuck off. Fuck you. That's why I'm here. Fuck you. Hey get off. Yeah. Quit shoulder in my kid. Welcome to the shoulder. We're not voting. Let's get out of here. Yeah. The Common Council was a legislative body in New York. Merchants now only made up 15 percent of the council. OK. Previously at 50 percent or more. I was now mostly working class guys who had who had risen up through selling gambling through gambling halls and selling booze. OK. OK. The joke. I like our audience. The joke to break up a Tammany Hall
Starting point is 00:16:37 committee meeting was was said all you had to do was open the door and yell quote your saloons on fire. Is that a euphemism or were they that's what they really meant. That's how they ended it. They were local focos. No they really meant it. Saloons. Saloons on fire sound like it could mean something. Yeah. Like yeah. I don't even know. Like if you're I don't know we'll come up with it later. Are you all right. It just seems like your saloons on fire. Oh my Debbie left. Took the kids. You think Gareth is saloons on fire. We're all very worried. Or like some sort of gastrointest. Keep going. Something's not agreeing with me. My saloon is on fire. No more wing night or whatever. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:17:37 No more mayor beef. What. They stole the mayor's beef earlier. Oh oh oh oh. From the curtains. So the common council was extremely corrupt. Insanely corrupt. Once the council realized they could lease off city property they started leasing everything. City peers, fairy franchises, they sold riverfront property. They fought against public railroad to Harlem that would keep fares low and instead they'd have private ownership which would quote impose a system of responsibility that private enterprise alone can arrange and insist upon. Absolutely David. The American dream. When hasn't it worked. By 1851 the common council had the nickname the 40 thieves. That's not bad. Yeah. So there were 40. Yeah. They were so brazen
Starting point is 00:18:29 in their corruption they turned on an offer of 50 grand from a guy to have the exclusive rights to pick up all the dead animals from city streets. Wait what just happened. What. So there's dead animals all over the street. Why can I ask why flower poisoning. Because number one they you know they still they still bring like animals in to the slaughterhouses over on the west side so they still bring the pigs down fucking streets also just animals, horses, whatever they die and they fall over and they're dead. It's a nice time. It must be fun. So then they would just lay there. So then they would just because there's no one there to pick it up they just lay there and rot. He is here in town. Yeah. Yeah. This
Starting point is 00:19:15 is here in town. It's 1850s. Yeah. Streets aren't like that anymore. It was a different time. Different time. It was a different time. So this guy offered he was like look I'll pay you 50 grand for the contract to pick up the dead animals all their city exclusively only I can do it and they turned him down. He was like my dream. I'm crazy. I was going to eat him. Is that sweet in the pot? I only lack road pig. Instead they gave the contract pig. Yeah. Yeah. Road pig. Have you never had road pig? Go out to Queens. It's your road pig. So instead of taking video grant from the guy they gave the contract to a guy and they paid him 60 grand. Wait, what? What's the angle? I think the 50 grand guy was really
Starting point is 00:20:19 upset about that. Yeah. Well, what the fuck does he have that I don't plus he's 10 grand more. You knew I was going to fuck him, huh? All right, gentlemen. All right. I'll be back. Because that guy then paid all the alderman the money that they just give it him. Sure. So they yeah. So this is the 40 thieves. That's how they did. Good name. So they over two years they increased taxes 70%. The majority of the wealthy who were upset with the situation were Protestants and the majority of the poor who benefit from the situation were Catholics. Okay. Yeah. In New York the wealthy and upper middle class enjoyed looking down on the Irish Catholic masses. People lived in expenses houses houses along Union Square and Fifth
Starting point is 00:21:05 Avenue were obsessed with the quote brutish and simian facial features of the Irish. Oh my God. What are they what are they what? Look at us. Yeah. Yeah. We all see it. Oh my God. I just see it. It's like there's a half man next to us. Chair is not helping. Nor the leash. They said Patty was not was born not made and his physical and moral defects were inherited, which made him genetically unsuited for citizenship. Wow. I mean, we will get back to this time for sure. But wow. I think we are. You mean as a culture or just well, whatever it is that we have now, I don't even know what to call it. No, but I mean, you mean we're going to come back to it to talk about it. You mean you think no, I think
Starting point is 00:22:01 that our time I think that we might have people in charge at some point who are saying you can't be considered equal to others because of appearance. It's shocking to believe I know. Yeah. It's a controversial. We've been there a while not to be. Well, but we're still like, you know, Stephen Miller is like dipping his toe in the pool, but he's not skinny dipping yet. Wait till he gets his dick out. Give it a couple weeks. Oh yeah. So the wealthy created the city reform league. Many of the richest assholes in the city jumped on board. They used their power to attack the use of gangs and corruption in the press and warned that high taxes would drive businessmen out of the city and it worked. In 1853, the electorate
Starting point is 00:22:48 ratified a drastic reduction in alderman power. The board of assistant alderman. Did you say Albany? Alderman. Alderman. Same thing. I'm sorry. I was going to ask. I'll be there next weekend. I don't want to talk about it, but funny bunny. I hear what I want to hear. Hilde at alderman next week. That's what I heard. So they abolished the board of assistant alderman, which was replaced by a board of councilmen made up of 60 men because they figured there's no way 60 men could be bribed. Yeah. Quite a defensive line. They're putting charge of all expenditures. The alderman lost the power to appoint policemen. Okay. Now the thing was is they would appoint a policeman and every policeman they appointed would give them
Starting point is 00:23:33 $40. And then the captain would get money for each guy and so each captain would get $200. So everyone was just fucking making really healthy. So what would be the modern day equivalent to that? $70. Dave's the human calculator. It would be $70 in today's cash. Still a pretty penny. Yeah. So the control of the police force was shifted to a board of commissioners, which made up of the mayor and city judges. Police were now given permanent tenure if they showed good behavior. What's that? So if you were good for a little while, we trust you forever. Yeah, forever cop forever cop. Yeah. It's a movie. Help me. A wizard did this. I'm forever cop. Oh, I hate the beat. I want it to be a fireman. Oh, forever cop. Do you hear that?
Starting point is 00:24:37 It's in my head every time I close my fucking eyes. I made 100. They also gave them blue uniforms, which is exciting. Okay. That's new? Yeah. Okay. What were they before? I think they just walked around in their clothes. Yeah, regular clothes. They probably had like a cover. They probably had like a specific hat. And those are hard to fake. Yeah. You know, you'd just come over and be like, Hey, what are you guys doing? I'm a cop. Promise. No more bullshit. All right. See you boys later. Hey, I'm a cop. What is this cop doing? Hey, what's your fucking mouth, pal? Throw you in the slammer. Huh? You got a lip on you. I'm a cop. I don't think that any of this is true.
Starting point is 00:25:21 Oh, prove me wrong. Well, I'm a cop. Put your hands up. That's, oh, you're going to wait for a long time. Why? I'm a cop. I don't like the cut of your gym. That's not how it works. Well, I'm a cop. Promise. That's not how I'm a cop. I swear to God. Gyms are not illegal cuts or otherwise. Well, not my jurisdiction. They ain't. I'm a cop. Have I mentioned that 100% a lot? Guarantee it. More than Kavanaugh said beer. I like cop. Topical again. Yeah. Copical. Yeah. But it worked. Holy shit. He's here tonight, ladies and gentlemen. And uh, dare I say it's an honor, sir. Just here. Hey, sir, a quick question. How come you were clearly drunk at the
Starting point is 00:26:16 hearing yesterday? I like beer. I enjoy beer. Uh, the next year arrest went up 40%. So it works. Okay. And the next election, the wigs were the uniforms, uniforms and, and, and getting rid of, uh, how they were appointing them with the graphs and all that work. Hey, uh, now that they got uniforms, I wasn't a cop all those years. I was lying. I was just in my regular clothes. I was sorry I arrested y'all. Is this the same guy from before? Yeah, I'm the same guy. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, you ask a lot of questions. You a cop? You have to say if you are. I'm mimping. That's not true. Is that? No, that's not at all. That's gotta be, that's probably blown up so many situations. You know, you got to tell me if you are. Yeah, legally.
Starting point is 00:27:06 I'm not fucking idiot. There would be no, there would be no undercover cop movies. No, it would start like, Hey, you've actually this guy and they'd be like, Yeah, are you a cop? Yeah. Yeah. A good one too. Sorry, gentlemen. My bad. You're good. Donnie Brascoe. Two minutes. No, yeah, I'm a cop. Okay, Donnie. Next. So in the next election, the wigs were backed by the city reform league, the Loco Focos and the native, nativists. Uh, a big part of the victory was from anti-immigrant fever. Those goddamn Irish. The 40 thieves were swept out of office. But this coalition was short-lived. Taxes had to be raised for new policemen. And the nativists started making Catholic bashing runs to Brooklyn. Started making what? Catholic bashing runs.
Starting point is 00:27:58 Yeah, they started just getting a bunch of guys together and heading over to Brooklyn and beating up Catholics. As you do, that hasn't changed. I can get on board with that. Yeah, it's not a good time for defending this. Break up the day a little bit. They have a special 11 p.m. f-train that's a Catholic bashing express. You don't want to get them at 11 p.m. You want to get them like around 1245, right? When they're coming out a new mess. Bring the hammer down. I think you got to hire this man for your business. Yeah. He's done his homework. I'm Catholic, by the way, so it's more of a self... How's your pope? How's your pope? I mean, I'm not... You know, I'm not like... Got a pope? You don't support everything about Catholicism. I support the free doughnuts that's where I ended.
Starting point is 00:28:47 And then what about the, what about the child molestation? Are you down with that? You know, I go back and forth on that one. Yeah, a bit of a waffler. Show me the kid and then ask me. We'll edit that out. We'll edit it out. Low hanging fruit. We're all better than that. Yeah. There's no way that makes it. There's no way that makes it. So let's just clean start. No, no. Good. It's not going to happen in the 10 o'clock show. Yeah, no way. Yeah. Get it out in the early one. Yeah. So the reform league was disgusted with the Catholic bashing and whatnot, and the group started to splinter. But then a hero emerged. Oh boy. Fernando Wood. Fernando Wood? Alrighty. He claimed he would clean up the city. He started as a small grocer and built himself up
Starting point is 00:29:40 to a real estate magnet, owning property all over the city. He was a millionaire. A grocer? He's a Coke grocer? A what? Yep. Coke grocer. A what? He had a cocaine problem and he bagged stuff. He was cocaine. I thought you said he was a grocer. He's a grocer. That's right. He was a grocer. You're right. He's a small grocer or a Coke grocer. This is a real anything goes kind of show. I don't know what's happening. No, it's fine. It's okay. I've been there. He doesn't. But so we don't know what. But he ended up in real estate. Yeah, he ended up being a super rich real estate guy, millionaire. At that time, it's a lot of money. Yeah, it's 70 million today. Or checks out. Yeah, checks out. He definitely not made his money cleanly and people knew that.
Starting point is 00:30:30 He ran for mayor in 1850 as quote a friend of the Irish. He lost. Okay. His part was from the working class. Many considered him the incarnate of evil, however, because of his dirty past. That's cool. But he ran again and he won. He became the ultimate reform mayor and won many people over. He pushed for a frugal government and started a crusade against sex workers. Okay. What was his crusade? I don't know what happened with the audience there. Well, we're all waiting to see what a crusade against sex workers means. Because they did go on Catholic beating trips back then. Well, he just went down and cracked down on sex work. Sex work, any of it. He went after saloons that stayed open on Sunday.
Starting point is 00:31:17 Yeah, get him out of here. He built up the city with new stone docks, railroads, sanitation, even a free academy for women. What? What a waste of money. Women educating them? Good Lord. Not even comfortable pretending. Such a softie. It tastes like, no, I'll say that I fuck kids, but I will not say that you cannot freely do that. Yeah, there's a line. It's a bizarre squiggly line, but it's a line. Yeah. The last one is harder to defend. He said, quote, I am satisfied no good government can exist in a city like this,
Starting point is 00:32:21 containing so many thousands of the turbulent, the vicious, the indolent, without a chief officer, with the necessary power to see the faithful execution of the laws. Okay. So he was talking about a strong head cop. Right. Okay. A big chief. Woods began creating a centralized and disciplined police force. Oh boy. This is it'll be good. It'll be good. It'll be totally good. Why wouldn't it be good? They already have the outfits they might as well go for. He firstly connected all the station houses to the chief's office by telegraph. Okay. Before he got out of do it. Yeah. Yeah. That's how you get an emergency ready. Yeah. All hands on deck. Yeah. The next couple of days we should let everyone know this
Starting point is 00:33:09 is from Thursday. Oh, fuck. God damn it. This is a week and a half ago. Well, may as well. Let's iron our outfits. Yeah. Let's do that again. I was going to ask for that was the same guy from earlier. No, no, that guy. No, that guy's gone. He was not a cop. He's not in this anymore. He had a good run. He had two scenes. He had two scenes. He was in under five and he had two scenes. Yeah. You couldn't stay mad at him. No, no, no, but he's gone. I mean, maybe. Oh, no, you might come back. I don't know. He might come back. I think I speak for everyone here tonight. I hope he comes back. We never know, man. So the newspapers were thrilled at this idea. The Telegraph wrote, it was quote,
Starting point is 00:33:52 a terrible warning to the rough, roughianism, which has so long beset our city. The reformers couldn't believe how awesome all this was. A paper wrote quote, the man whose former career shows him a scoundrel of special magnitude has become a our civil hero. So they like woods. Scoundrel of special magnitude. Yeah. Yeah. They use cool words back in the emo band. Yeah. Yeah. But people paying attention noticed that Woods Enforcement was very selective. His cops rounded up street walkers, but left brothels alone. They raided dirty, low gambling halls, but left the fancy ones open. Friendly Sunday saloons could stay open. Some thought his demands for more police power were Napoleonic, which he was big in Paris at the time, Napoleon. Oh,
Starting point is 00:34:36 he was a Napoleon guy. He was fucking killing it. That's cool. Literally. Yeah. It's a good hero to have. There are reasonable things you just mentioned, I think. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Someone to look down to. Yeah. And the rich were very concerned with how much immigrant workers loved Wood. Wood came up with a complaint book. Wait. Really? Sorry. Are you that kind of audience? No, no, no. I'm not even... Is that who you are? No. What? No, no, no. No. Wait, just so I... Why? Everyone laughed. You said how much immigrant workers loved Wood. And your audience of 13-year-olds loved that. Easy. That was good. That's the early show. Yeah. But they had... They loved just wood materials. I mean, obviously, I don't think we're talking about... No, the man know Wood from earlier
Starting point is 00:35:30 tonight. The mayor. Oh, Wood. Sorry. Okay. Yeah. I misunderstood Wood. Sorry. He's the guy. Thank you. He's the mayor. Yeah. Well, I remember now. Mayor Wood came up with a complaint book. Okay. Laborers could make complaints against crooked or exploitative employers, bad cops. It's like a comment section. It's a narc book. He's got a narc book that people can write shit in. Okay. And he kept appointing the Irish to the police force. By 1855, the Irish made up 20% of the force, 27% of the force. Okay. The state legislature was worried about Wood's growing control over the police. But the wealthy people in the city... See, that was easily as funny as the other one. Yeah. Wood's growing control of the police.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Because of growing. Running through again. Yeah. Yeah. Playback. It'll hit some people on the drive home. It'll... I think this thing's got a second life ahead of it. I really do. Yeah. And we haven't heard the last of that one. But the rich in town loved what he was doing with the cops. And they all asked him to run again in 1856. And he did. And he won. On election day, he let patrolmen have the day off and furloughed a bunch of friendly criminals who thanked him by harassing his opponents' voters. So, shoulderers, but a little more aggressive. So, he let the cops off and he said they couldn't go near polls to stop crime. Boy, there's just... I mean, now that we're in in your window land. Then he let the criminals out to fuck with everybody at the polls and somehow he won.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Yeah. What do you think helped him? I think it's just his message. Yeah. Strong messaging. Good slogan. Balloons. The Richmond class were just happy they had a man who could control the electorate without costing him a lot of money. But his opponents still wanted to fight him. And they headed to the state capital, Albany. Oh, I hear they have a funny bone. To fight for control. Now, Albany was rural, anti-immigrant, and temperance leaders were very popular. Not like that anymore. There was a lot of anger towards New York City because it allowed so many different people to work together. Sure. Yeah. Well, that's really good to hear. Yeah. So, too many different people are working together. Fuck this town. I'm grabbing a street dog. The upstate folks thought this was
Starting point is 00:38:00 an urban attack on the right of man. Wow. On the what of man? Right. The right of man. Just like the fucking freedom. Yeah. Freedom. Maga. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Wakey, wakey. We're living it. Also, the rise of huge corporations in the city was seen as a threat to Christian America. Weird. And they saw the barbarism of the poor in the city as a serious concern. Okay. During a recent turn down, economic downturn, the poor wanted public works instead of being handed charity. Wow. It's a fucking asshole. Yeah. I mean, it is greedy. How dare they? Yeah. So, to save the country, the rural leaders decided they would have to bring New York City under control. One legislator said, quote, the time has come when it is to be settled whether New York is an empire.
Starting point is 00:39:01 So, New York, they just think New York is doing its own thing and they don't like it. So, it's time to fucking crush that shit. Okay. Drop the hammer. Sure. They created a new political group called the Republican Party. What happened? What happened? No, these guys are, these guys are great. They, if you read their history, they, it really, it's good. You promise this turns out good for this party? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You swear to God? They're great. They're fucking great. They're good people. They end up later on pro rape. So, so it was started in New York, upstate New York by some wigs, some free soiled Democrats, and some no nothings. To be fair, sorry, I just want to jump back. I don't think we want to say
Starting point is 00:39:50 that they're pro rape. I think we want to be careful and say that they're not anti rape. There's a line. It's a squiggly one. I'm still going pro rape. Okay. I mean, it's a free country. Not me, them. No. Yeah. Well, you want to be careful because that could now just be its own quote. Editing. I know how editing works. Are you sure? I'm going to edit so it just sounds like you say I'm pro rape. It's actually just gonna be a techno track of you saying that now. Pro rape. Dave Hill pro rape. Dave Hill pro rape. Dave Hill pro rape. Tone. I mean, fine, applaud it. All right. Move on. I had to decide whether I wanted to be applauded for something negative or just be thrilled with applause that weren't even for me.
Starting point is 00:40:52 And it's nice to be. It's nice to be here with you guys. Yeah. Thank you, David. Thank you, David. Yeah. That's sweet. So not crazy about rape. Let's be clear. So now while the Republican party is coming, all these groups are coming together at the same time Democrats divided into factions. There were those who were worried about Mayor Wood's increasing power in the entire state, and there were those who wanted to get control of the city back from him. In the city, the Tammany Hall guys saw Wood as a bigger threat than the Republicans. Okay. Holy shit. Were they wrong? How did you miss that was arguably the best one? Yeah. Wood bigger threat. Wood bigger threat? I see. I didn't get the first one. You didn't get it? No, the later one. Yeah. Now you're loving
Starting point is 00:41:41 it. You're the only one loving it now. You're like, this thing's got legs. I think if we have that weird cop from before come back, we've got a show. I think we do. Okay. So they would rather. Okay. So an interesting take. Yeah. They're not as worried about the Republicans as they are. The Democrats. It says, yeah. In the fall of 1856, the Republican governor was elected and a Republican majority was elected in the assembly because the Democrats were split. They immediately set out to take control of New York City from Democrats, believing they had legal authority over the city. Okay. This is because the New York Court of Appeals had just ruined, had just ruled that cities and villages existed only to the extent the state granted
Starting point is 00:42:24 it government authority. So the court said, yeah, the fucking state controls the city. Okay. Okay. So the state legislature declared itself to be free to intervene at will in the affairs of New York City. Great. And then they changed the city charter without asking the people of New York for approval. The common council is tripped of power overseeing finances, administering real estate, auditing accounts, overseeing disbursements, and collecting taxes were all put in the hands of the comptroller. Boy, I really thought it was like an erosion, but it really was just like, it sweeps. Like they just fucking in one swoop are like, fuck it, let's go. Mayor Wood's term was cut in half.
Starting point is 00:43:11 That's, that's hands down. We got to take a quick break. You know, you don't call breaks. No, what are you doing? No, we're gonna take breaks. Oh, man. So the drastic room. I can't breathe. Yeah, no. Oh, man. You guys started it. I'll be fair. I mean, he didn't even think about it.
Starting point is 00:43:44 All on you. You didn't know where it was going to go. It didn't go great. So, so they just basically kicked him out of office and had a Republican step in to finish out the year. Normal. Yep. And then Wood ran for office again in December, 1857. And it was too hard. Let's just have Dave do that. Sorry. Okay. The legislature created new state agencies with led Albany to control three force of New York City's budget. Okay. Republicans then passed a law forcing saloon keepers to get a license to get one. They had to submit vouchers of their good and moral character signed by 30 residents, all who owned an estate.
Starting point is 00:44:31 What? I mean, God, it's just like we're out of town. Yeah, wherever you could find 30 people are like, he's good shit. He should do this. Yeah, this is the time when a guy who owned a saloon would live above it or in the back. So no one owned a fucking estate. So, so they were making it hard. Yeah. No, that wasn't like a wood joke. It was more an observation. The situation. Do you have a bottle? I don't have a bottle opener. You got one?
Starting point is 00:45:06 We don't, we don't need all hands on deck on this. Well, if one person, oh, we're gonna steal it. They also, the saloon owners also had to provide boarding facilities and stables. So basically just made it impossible to have a saloon. The Herald concluded this would drive out of business 13 out of every 14 existing saloons and probably 99 out of 100 in the lower wards where no one who owned property lived. And they also said that if a wife complained about her husband, he would be put on the list of known drunks that would be given to anyone who sold liquor.
Starting point is 00:45:43 Well, there is actually something I think we can finally get behind. What a, imagine an era like that could have a list if your husband likes beer too much. Not the mayor. Not the mayor. This is all against the mayor. This would be kind of nice to be a known drunk, though, rather than just some toiling obscurity. Yeah, just, yeah. Oh, him, he's a drunk. You got him, right? I am. And I'm proud of it. I got a certificate to show you. Do you know anyone who happens in a state? I'm trying to shake my record. Hey, man, I'm on the cocaine list. What are you guys doing? You guys want to talk about stuff?
Starting point is 00:46:23 I don't know. I'm not interested in a good cocaine. You guys thought about being a bank, a bank for coins? Yeah, I'm not interested in a dollar. I'm not interested in cocaine. Since when does alcoholic cocaine go together well? Well, good lord. You guys want to go for a ride? You want to go out and talk? You want to just want to talk? Let's go out to the river and talk, smoke some cigarettes. I would smoke a cigarette. There we can meet in the middle of me ago. Check out the back of the jacket. Drunk.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Yeah, that's right. It's me, drunk. Whatever. For my next trick, I'm going to eat three nachos and take a nap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Form a line to the left. His eye, the drunk. That's different from the cop from earlier. You know, I used to pretend to be a cop. That was years ago. That was what I call BU before uniform. You're so happy he returned. We all missed him. It might be the first spit take.
Starting point is 00:47:57 So they're basically implementing prohibition because they couldn't get it through before by different laws, right? But they knew they couldn't enforce it because the mayor wouldn't enforce it, right? He wouldn't enforce it. No, he's totally against all this. This is the state doing it. So they passed the Metropolitan Police Act, which shifted control of the police force from the mayor to a Metropolitan Police Commission, which was controlled by Republican state appointees. Interesting how that works. Previously, cops had to live in the community they served, but now that was over. They purposely were trying to cut connections between communities and the cops. That is a terrible change. No, no, that works out great. That's the best thing you
Starting point is 00:48:42 can do. If cops don't know anybody, they're nice. So the control of the police also helped give Republicans complete control over the election machinery in New York City in Brooklyn. Jesus. So people in New York are fucking pissed. Why do you think so? I don't know. Okay. There's the, I think the drunk jacket. The junk jackets were not... Eyes call the drunk, dacket, sir. I don't think so. Oh. They called Republicans despotic. The new, the Irish news. What? Fuck. You know I love this. You know all I want to do is just go crazy. No, no, no. No, no, no. Now it's set up too much. No, no, no, no. This guy on Facebook was a bitch. I can't.
Starting point is 00:49:43 Yeah. The Irish news said even Napoleon wouldn't have tried something like this. I can't do it. But Harper's said the laws look like those imposed on conquered countries. The Herald called the upstate legislator, legislators quote, archeological curiosities who aren't, who dare not trust themselves to be alone with a loaded pistol, a bottle of gin or a pretty girl. Strong order to nice echelon there set up. Also, what a great party. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. So Mayor Wood went off. He attacked them to the delight of his constituents.
Starting point is 00:50:42 Yeah. How about, how about I try this? Yeah. How about, how about Mayor Wood blue? You know, I'm not going to fall for every single one of them. You're just not falling for the book-enders. He ordered all sewer. Mayor Wood ordered all policemen to reject the authority of the Metropolitan Commissioner. So now the parents are fighting. Yeah. Yeah. He filed lawsuits to get the law declared on the constitutional and anyone do any cop who defied his orders was fired. The common counsel then gave what permission to create
Starting point is 00:51:24 a separate police force. What? The municipal police force. You can't do that. Under direct control of the mayor. What? There's already a police force. Now there's two. Welcome to New York. I'm back, baby. So New York City now has two completely different and official police departments. What? Okay. It's very awkward. I mean, it's not great. No. Between the cops are arresting the cops again and they don't know who's going to win. Who's the charge? Breaking news on the INN tonight. And we've got our friend patio stereotype down in the streets. To close her off down here today, Daniel, there's two different police forces are fighting it out.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Jurisdiction, what's that? Nobody knows. We're all proud that you broke through. He's going to come out sometime. That guy on Facebook right now is like, boo. D.C. Potatoes. Fucking bastards. We've been through enough with our Simeon faces. So between May and June, all the cops chose which force they were going to join. It's like a dodgeball team. It's just that basic. We picked Danny. Yes. No, they choose themselves what they're going to be. The cops get to pick which force they're going to be on. It's even lame or that. Well, yeah, but it's still like, yeah, it is. It's different. I mean, nobody's picked your pick teams. It's very bizarre. You're right. It must
Starting point is 00:53:32 have been hard. You'd be like, Bobby, which, which one are you going with? I don't know. I'm so torn. The one with the cooler uniforms, I would think. Whichever one will have me. Oh, God. I have a crazy problem with alcohol. But guess what? I got a jacket. Oh, where'd it go? That's a police uniform now. Yeah, you're under arrest for questioning me. We're searching for a jacket. We got to spread out. Fan out. We will find this. We'll leave no stone on. Yeah. I think I know who took the jacket. I've been using it as a pillow. Let's say we caught a guy with one arm. Hmm? Huh? Do you guys hear someone screaming or is that in my head? That's in your head. I said I have to drink. Gin out that shouting. All right. Well, good day on the beat, boys.
Starting point is 00:54:36 I'm poops. You guys are real people, right? Swear to God. I'm a squirrel. You, I knew it. I'm a squirrel. You're under arrest, asshole. You're persecuting a squirrel. It's illegal when you're one of these cops. I have a feeling the squirrel is the one who took my jacket that I'm sleeping on. We'll pin it on him. They got good hearing squirrels. Or wait, you ain't even a squirrel. Oh, fuck. This guy's going to have his own show. Would they produce it? Yeah. So 800, remember the story, 800 cops. Right. 800 cops stay with Mayor Wood. 300 went to the new Metropolitan Police Force. Okay. Okay. Not surprisingly, they were split along ethno-nationalist lines. Sure. The Mets were
Starting point is 00:55:42 Anglo-Americans while the Munis were foreign born. Wait, whose were these? The Mets are the new ones. The Munis are Wood's guys. Okay, gotcha. That's right. All right, take it easy. Calm the fuck down. So criminals had a field day because if they were arrested by one force, the other force would come and get them out. Is that the right way to do this? So they are battling police forces. It's a rivalry. Yeah, there is a rivalry between the cop forces. The other ones would show up and just say, he seems fine. The two groups of police fought over who had control of station houses. What is going on? I mean, it's like a wife swap. In mid June, a man was sent to City Hall to take over as street commissioner after being appointed by the governor. But when he arrived,
Starting point is 00:56:43 he was physically tossed out of the building by the Munis. Okay. A warrant was then issued for Mayor Wood for inciting a riot and violence against the street commissioner's person. The Metropolitan Police Captain George Walling went to deliver the arrest warrant himself at City Hall. He was led into the mayor's office where the mayor refused to be placed under arrest. The captain grabbed him by the arm and tried to forcibly remove him. But there are now 300 Munis stationed in City Hall because they are expecting trouble. Yeah. The captain was attacked and dragged out of the mayor's office and physically thrown into the street. How'd it go? They arrested me. No. They arrested me. No. Well, they're also cops. Yeah. They're cops too. Mean ones.
Starting point is 00:57:31 So he wasted. He came back with a second warrant and a larger force of... Yeah, that problem was the paperwork for sure. It was definitely that it wasn't like notarized properly. And a larger force of met cops in their uniforms of frock coats and plug hats. All right. I know who I would have gone with. You sold? No question. Frock coats? I'm in. Frock coats. Not the toughest bunch I've ever seen. The other guys are wearing smocks. I stand corrected. Okay. Get nice and sloppy on front. Yeah. So waiting for the Mets were a huge mass of Munis. And back in the Munis were a shitload
Starting point is 00:58:29 of men described by a writer as, quote, suckers, soap locks, Irishmen, and plug uglies. Plug uglies. Jesus. Yeah. Rude. The two group of cops faced off and started fighting in front of City Hall. What if this, if you are just walking down the street, you're like, this is the greatest shit I'll ever see in my life. We are about to like live our lives watching walkathons and look at two groups of cops bravehearting in front of City Hall. You're like, fucking what? Who directed this shit? Mayor Wood supporters attacked first, clubbing, and punching the Mets who were far outnumbered. The Times, quote, this scene was a terrible one, blows upon naked heads. Jesus. Naked. I mean, they say naked heads. And we're back. Yep. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:23 It's a no hat head. It's a no hat. We took that break in the middle. Yeah. But they say naked heads because there's no hat on, right? Right. Naked. Naked head means just a head. But in this time, it was like, oh my God, look at that hair beat him. He doesn't have the force field of a hat on. At this, at this, in this day and age, it's like someone, it's like seeing someone's balls, basically. Yeah. Yeah. A naked head is terrifying. Yeah. All right. I'm taking him at his word. I don't know. One by one. Blows upon naked heads fell thick and fast and men rolled helpless down the steps to be leaped upon and beaten till life seemed extinct. The Mets fled in all directions. In all 52 policemen were injured. One would become an invalid for the rest of his life. Jesus.
Starting point is 01:00:14 The new street commissioner sought out the sheriff to arrest Mayor Wood. And it just so happened, the National Guard Seventh Regiment was in town having a parade because they were going to go to Boston. Timing. Because wait, because they were going to go where? They were going to go up to Boston. So they had a parade because they were going to go to Boston. Yeah. I mean, like, I don't know anything about history, but you did not need shit going on for a parade. Nothing. You could have a parade about a parade that happened. You'd be like, we're having it because last Saturday's parade. So good. It's an homage parade to last Sunday's parade. Double parade. Yeah. So, so the National Guard had down a city hall and when Wood looked out the window,
Starting point is 01:00:58 he saw these National Guardsmen was like, all right, so this is over. Okay. And he handed himself over to the general in charge. Hello. Let's go. Although nothing came of it because the charges were eventually dropped. Over the next couple of weeks, both police forces patrolled the city and would fight each other and would fight each other often. So if you're like a criminal, you're like best case scenario. Yeah. Right? 100%. Like they're just beating the fuck out of each other so you can do whatever you want. Yeah. Yeah. Fill your pockets with flour or whatever you're doing. Well, put flour up your ass and sneak at home. I don't think you know how crime works. I will tell you, I know how much flour costs pretty penny. Hey, buddy. What are you in for?
Starting point is 01:01:39 Put a bunch of flour up my butt. They caught me. It took them a while though. I ate a bunch too. I was dying. Boy, did I need water. I was so thirsty. That's what got me as I coughed and it looked like I burped Casper. They knew right away. Next thing they do, once you got a bunch of white coming out of your mouth, you know where they go, but they found it. Yeah. Joke's on them though. I still got a bunch of it. Where? I want to talk about it, but let's just say also my butt. Also your butt? With further in it. So you have like a double butt chamber? Hey, don't go spreading that around the joint. Okay. Something like that makes you a pretty prize in this place. I absolutely cannot guarantee. You don't want people knowing I got a wishbone
Starting point is 01:02:35 back there. Come on. No, I'm literally telling you. Do me a favor. This never happened. No, it happened. The whole yard's going to know in about five minutes because this is. It's not great because again, I could satisfy twice the amount in half the time. So I do not want this. You know, let's forget this ever happened. Hey, how about this? I give you boys a little butt flower. Look the other way. No. Number one. I'm in prison, but flower doesn't mean no good. Hey, what are you talking about? How are you going to make your eggplant parmesan? You're going to become crawling to me once you find the guy's got a bunch of breadcrumbs in his dick. You'll be like, Hey, where's that butt flower guy? Well, I'm right here, but when you're
Starting point is 01:03:13 an enemy, you told everyone about my two hole. I would, I would like to name guys that was from now on, any guy that you think fits to be that guy. It's that guy. I love that guy. What a life. No, he's got an overall universal since you've been hyping him. So the cops, the cops became more obsessed with fighting each other than arresting criminals. And the gangs kind of where we would love to have them still a little bit. Yeah, a little bit. And the gangs realized this and started running wild, quote, reveling in an orgy of loot, murder, and disorder. Wow. Respect, respectable citizens were being brazenly robbed in daylight on the streets. Gangs plundered stores and faded homes, stopped and robbed coaches on the street.
Starting point is 01:04:21 Hey, no, I'm just trying to teach you these kids how to play soccer. Oh, my whistles and balls and cones. That's right. That's right. That's exactly right. I'll teach them how to dig deep another way. We don't need balls to practice, boys. We could. Now you guys are just dirty now. That's not what I meant. You guys have no know. Same guy. Same guy. Yeah, yeah. Cleaned his act up for a little while. Thought everything was on the up and up. Guess who's hitting the sauce tonight. The man who was robbed on the street. I tried to do is coach a bunch of kids, teach them the youth about what it means to be a man. Well, fuck that. You have me. I drink myself. Mm hmm. What was that last part?
Starting point is 01:05:11 That is a catchphrase. I'm a bunch now. Jen. Jen, what? Okay. He's he's took a sassy turn. What's that? Why are you sleeping? Hello? Mm hmm. On July 2nd, the court of appeals ruled in favor of state law. Wood was forced to disband the munis in the afternoon on July 3rd. The Metropolitan Police Force now controlled the city. Okay. Unfortunately, the next day was July 4th. Oh, my God. A mile under last thing you need is that's right. A day known for parades, speeches, drinking and street fights. We got to bring the attitude of the fourth of July back. Yeah. Yeah. And the men who had to
Starting point is 01:06:12 deal with this were now the Mets who refused to hire any of the munis. So they filled the ranks with people who had litter little or no experience in law enforcement. I'm back again. Boy, I'm like the forest gump of the podcast. At this point, only 100 of all the Metropolitan's had a month's experience in law enforcement. Mm hmm. So this is probably going to go pretty smoothly. The fourth of July celebrations kicked off pretty early in the morning hours when a group of Metropolitan police came under attack. By gangs, they were so terrified they all just ran away. One ran into a saloon for shelter and luckily discovered it was the headquarters of the Bowery Boys who are a nativist gang.
Starting point is 01:07:08 Do you see the celebration started with an attack? Yeah, that's how they're celebrating. It's weird to light fireworks at 8 a.m. It's a weird way to have fun. So then he goes into a saloon and the Bowery Boys are there. It's the Bowery Boys saloon who are nativists. So he ran into the right saloon. Right. And they came out and drove off the gang. The five point gangs were mostly foreigners. Okay. Of course, this and they were the dead rabbits. So the dead rabbits came and this wasn't going to go unanswered but unanswered by the den rabbits who were also wood supporters and Irish. They attacked a group of 30 Mets on Bayard Street between Mulberry and Elizabeth and then the locals joined in. 200 Bowery Boys then rushed down to rescue the totally clueless Mets.
Starting point is 01:07:57 The sixth ward was not close to done. The people of Lower Manhattan put up barricades made out of carts, barrels, and lumber. Women gathered and broke up stones and then carried them to men on the front lines of tenement roofs. Soon gunfire started. Jesus. I would have gone straight to the guns. Yeah, no. Stones. Certainly once the guns are brought out. Try the stones. Not working. No, thank you. So nice of you to bring these but they have guns now. No, they're shooting the stones. The fighting went on for two days. On day two, they came together on Bayard Street again and what was described as the most ferocious free-for-all in the history of New York City. Wow. One lone policeman decided he was going to arrest two of the leaders and waded his way through the gangs.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Waded. Swinging his club to arrest them. He was knocked down and stripped of his clothes then beaten with his own night stick. I had a great, I had a great idea. I had a great idea. That's my brother. He outside of everything he knows. Look at the kid. He's a professional. I had a great idea. I had a great idea. Where's just a couple of walking catchphrases, baby? For some reason, I picture him with his hat still on when he's getting this shit. If he was left with his hat, he'd be like, oh, thank God. I'm only naked. Aside from the hat. He managed to crawl out and crawl back to the Metropolitan Police headquarters. I need a new uniform. In just his boxers. Okay. Wow. Three houses were set on fire. There was absolutely nothing police could do to stop any of it. So
Starting point is 01:09:49 finally the National Guard was called in. And the Mets were put at the head of all the regiments. The Guard put down the fighting. It was all over. The streets were swept. And most importantly, Sunday closing laws were being enforced. There's still a bunch of dead animals in the street, though, right? Yeah. Yeah. That guy's like, mm-hmm. Okay. 12 gang members had been killed and 37 wounded. Probably many more were killed. And because for a while later, they would find graves under houses and stuff. This is before we did accurate body counts. If you've ever seen the terrible movie Gangs in New York, there's times when he's like under houses and underground. So they buried a bunch of guys. That's right. That's right. Yeah. You're absolutely right,
Starting point is 01:10:33 Dave. I nailed it. Yeah. Hey, look, someone's played in Hollywood. Oh my God. This guy gets it. I haven't seen it, but I would like to. No, you would not. But people are still furious about what the state had done on July 9th, 1500 people today. He's vamping. Sorry. I just had to look this up. Oh, so Mayor Wood, after that, disbanded his police force. Okay. So there's a winner. It's done. On July 9th, 1500 people held the meeting in Hamilton Square to consider creating a new state of the Southern five counties. Mayor Wood came and told the crowd they had to obey the legislature's laws because he was thinking of running for governor and this state separating would not help him at all. Interesting. Okay. The people calmed down for a couple of days,
Starting point is 01:11:30 but on July 12th, in the heart of Germantown between avenues A and four street, a few thousand Germans came out to stop the Metropolitan Police from enforcing Sunday closure laws. Okay. The Germans brought clubs and brick bats and stines. They really wanted to drink. They're ready to go. Is that German? No, maybe. Is that a baby German? Yes, it's me, a little baby German. It's me, little baby Germany. But guess what? I like to drink. Just toss me in a keg. I drink my way out of it. I'm only two months old. Now that's a different guy. That is not the same guy. That's not the same guy. Oh, you don't think it is the same guy? Or is it? Hey. It's me the whole time. So why do you sound like a Ken Jeong?
Starting point is 01:12:34 I have the best Ken Jeong in the business. So the Mets called in reinforcements to take on the Germans and three regiments came and all of the cops and they drove the Germans back. One blacksmith was killed. Whatever. One who was killed? A blacksmith. It totally doesn't matter. A blacksmith's life is pointless. The only satisfaction you get is when you put the hot thing in water. You're like, don't get better than that. The next day, the next day, a funeral possession, procession was held for the blacksmith with 10,000 Germans marching a Broadway under a banner that read, Opfer der Metropolitan Polizei, victim of metropolitan police. A band marched and played.
Starting point is 01:13:26 Got to have a band. The Mets superintendent recommended 10 cops and each ward be armed with revolvers to suppress riots. The state then decided to build an armory at 35th and 7th Avenue. This was a mile closer to city hall than the existing armory. Everything was very tense. The city was at what was considered an uneasy truce divided along ethnic and nationalist lines. A growing immigrant class was on one side with its own culture and politics and a wealthy Anglo-nationalist class was on the other. Thankfully, capitalism intervened. In August came the great financial panic of 1857. Banks collapsed. People lined up to take out their gold. 100,000 were out of work. Immigration plummeted. The need to work and eat overcame everything. So that's how, like,
Starting point is 01:14:18 they were about to have a fucking civil war in New York, and that's how it stopped was a financial collapse. That's good. Eventually this, eventually the city gave in and started hiring people that worked for parks and then the economy improved. But that's literally how it ended. Is that maybe, like, the long con of racist politicians is to make America suck so fucking bad that just nobody wants to come here? Yeah. Okay. Just want to make sure. So that's the story of wood and the cops. That's the end. Like, New York was about to have a civil war and then the economy collapsed. But that's not the end of the story, is it? Yeah. So sweet. So sweet. It is. It is. But I've been trying to wait and hear what's going on with those cigars this whole time. And then the guy,
Starting point is 01:15:28 and then the guy's about to be beaten by a cop. He's like, can I interest you in a cigar that malfunctions? Yeah. Oh man, what a letdown. Yeah, sorry. So the cigars started the great fire of 1860. Everybody died. Does that make you happy? Well, I've got some googling to do. Oh, shit. Wow. It's good, though. It's good to feel like it all worked out in the end with the cops. And then it makes sense. Is it too late to have a secondary police force? Let's bring in some competition. We do. We do. They're called ICE. Right. Oh, oh, don't ask Dave a question. Dave Anthony a question like, is it going to be okay? Don't do that sort of stuff. I'll do that like when we're in like traveling. I'll be like, you think we'll make it through?
Starting point is 01:16:28 He's like, oh, we're so fucked. We're fucked. So this is what he does. Hi. It worked out here in town, though, in New York. Yeah. No, I mean, after everything he was talking about, you feel good? Well, there's two shows here tonight. Oh, sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Yes. We've had great turnouts for the shows. The police are still corruptible. No, but I mean, come on. Yeah. There was salsa in the dressing room. Again, I really, I think we'd all feel better if you called it a green room. Nobody's changing. There's no dressing happening. Yeah. There's no, the only the closest thing we have to dressing is salsa. There's ranch. Yeah. Oh, there's ranch. So there's
Starting point is 01:17:23 a dressing area in the green room. There is. I think we should have gotten them a smaller stool. I think that it's the most confusion we've ever experienced. I mean, maybe, I don't know. There have been a couple where I'm like, what's happening right now? And we found a great character. A couple of them. Huh? Drunk cop. That's right. Thank you, sir. He's named. Uh, we want to thank you guys so much for coming out. We really do appreciate the fuck out of it. Give it up for David Hill. See y'all in Albany next week. Appreciate it. Thank you guys for coming. Really appreciate it.

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