The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 353 - Aboriginal Warrior Pemulwuy (Live w/Damien Power)

Episode Date: November 22, 2018

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds are joined by Damien Power to examine Aboriginal warrior Pemulwuy. @DamienPower01  SOURCES REDBUBBLE MERCH TOUR DATES

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clearly. You're listening to the dollop. This is a bilingual American history podcast. Each week I, lover of women, curly-haired man, dodger hater. Dave Anthony reads a story from American history to his friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Yes. Yes. Nice. Probably the most feeble Gary Chan we've heard in a while at least. That's really bad. One gentleman who almost committed. Gary. You should all be ashamed of yourselves. Yeah. We have a guest. I'm a big fan of his stand-up. I've seen every time I've been in Melbourne I've gone to his one-minute show and I

fucking laughed my ass off. Ladies and gentlemen, Damian Powers. Damo. Wow. Hobart, Tasmania. I've got the, thank you very much. What a wonderful audience you guys attract. Unbelievable audience. So giving. It's different to my audience. I do a lot of stand-up in Brisbane. So yeah, I get a lot more fucking better, be funny, fucking. Yeah, and that's the promoters. So look at this dude. He doesn't care. Yeah. Oh no, this dude is getting roasted. Not too shit's given. Good. Just a heads up for any Aboriginal listeners tuning into this dollop. I'll be mentioning the names of some deceased Aboriginal people. And let me just say, not as bad as it was going to be because I started on a story and

then I was doing it and I was like, fuck. I can't. You guys are fucked up. You guys are fucked. Welcome to Australia. It's good to have you. Oh boy. I mean this one's not great either, but come on. 1788. The British first fleet landed on the shores of Australia at Port Jackson in New South Wales. Okay. That's a happy start. Yeah, people coming over on a boat. Yeah. Well, it's not just people. No, it's British people. We love flag right away. Early flag. We love boat people here. Yeah. Well, they're gonna put in a, they're putting in a boat car. Yeah. Yeah. Very cable cars in the shape of a boat. We love boat people so much. Not a controversial issue at all. The native people in the area are known as the Eora.

They occupied a land about a hundred, 1800 square kilometers in size. So pretty fucking big. Sure. They've been there for about 50,000 years. Jesus. It's a long time. After God created people. In a cauldron in the sky with a big wooden spoon. They were divided into different travel groups. There were over 500 in 1788 when the British came. Okay. That number will probably go down. What shocking to hear. Yeah. The tribal territory was divided into clan food gathering districts. Some ate fish, seafood, others kangaroos, wild birds. So they're all kind of just kind of like the buffet here. Like you said earlier. A lot of options. If you get the buffet. Lasagna. Yeah. There was also a lasagna. There was a lasagna, I think as well. We have caught lasagna. So

that's good. We finally found a way to do it. Traditional dish. Yeah. There was that. There was a salad one. Was this salsa? There's still the British game. Yeah. There's a taco one. So the British, the British government's first instructions given to Governor Philip concerning abrigals were quote, to endeavor by every possible means to open an intercourse with the natives and appease their affections. Easy with encouraging all our subjects to live in friendship and kindness with them. Oh my God. What is, I mean, I cannot see where this is going to take a dive. That's right off the bat. They're like, let's make it. It's almost like the sun never sets on the British bullshit. They're going to be friends. Yeah, for sure. That's how it went. Well,

it's not I had good intentions at least. Yeah. Yeah, that's, you know, at least a business model. Yeah. A British Marine officer quote, we found the natives tolerably numerous as we that is an unbelievable way to put it. Wow. Unfortunately, we're not going to be able to make nice. There's a lot of them. And that's some BS. No. As we advanced up the river and concluded the country more populist than previously thought, they were assembled on the beach of the South Shore, not less than 40 persons shouting and making many unsophisticated signs and gestures. Yeah. But if there's a lot of this, why do they keep gesturing like that? And now he's putting it in his mouth. Very obscene. Yeah. Oh, oh, I think I know what he's offering. Rather. On the North

Shore, a party of only six natives was observed. So the governor immediately proceeded to land on that side. Yeah. That's right. That's how you do it. In order to take possession of his new territory and bring about an exchange between its old and new masters. What? Yeah. They're going to take possession of the new territory and bring about an exchange between the old and new masters of the land. Right. Okay. I wonder how that. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Bring the contract. Yeah. Especially you consider that I speak the same language. Yeah. Well, I mean, that never is a problem on this podcast, right? No. Knowing the British. An officer on the boat indicated the needed water and the aboriginals understood and pointed them to a spot where there was water.

And let me just say, for the rest of the show, the idea should have been to drown them. Yeah. That would have been a smart call in the water. Yeah. Quote, the Indians, though nervous, showed no signs of resentment at the governor's going ashore. An interview commenced in which the conduct of both parties pleased each other so much that the strangers returned to their ships with a much better opinion of the natives than they had landed with. Okay. And the natives seemed highly entertained with their new acquaintances from whom they accepted a mirror, some beads and other toys. A mirror. A mirror. That would blow your mind if you'd never seen a mirror before. Yeah. Wouldn't you be like, whoa, who the fuck is that? Yeah. Yeah. In the portal that you've just

given me. Another me? Yeah. My friend. Yeah. I don't know if you've ever done much. It's weird to think as of a mirror as technology, but it would have been put your mirror down. All the kids these days are on their mirrors. They dropped Instagram upon them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you need a higher ego level? We provide the white people bought beads and now the kids and you know, everyone's playing with the beads. It's bad. Unsure that British were shocked by the nudity of the aboriginals as they walked around on the beach. Oh my. Oh, sorry. I just imagine one of them wouldn't go in. Oh my. Well, there's nothing. There would have been a bunch of them sitting around going, Oh my dear, I don't think these days to be naked. I don't think just enormous

cocks and usually large cocks here. We should not give him a mirror. Look at mine in the mirror again. Hello. The first dick pic. We've invented it. I finally can see my anus. I think it'd be more like, what the fuck is that? I've got it unfathomable. My word. Oh my. Am I? Both sides were armed, but it did not seem like either wanted to fight. There was an English child there, a boy of around seven who was on the ship with all the British people. Good parenting. Yeah. No. Yeah, that's how you want to do it. I would not bring my kid to a new colony. That's just one of my parenting rules. No foreign colonies for my kid. Shutting down the screen time. No foreign colonies. Yeah. No mirrors. No mirrors. Timmy, Timmy, do you want to go to a penal colony? No,

I'd like to be a child. Is that all right? May I? Oh my. Probably better than working in the factory back home. I'd rather get black lung if that's all right, sir. I'd rather die from cold poisoning. May I? Ah, those were the days. Yeah. Black lung. Yeah. That's when children were canaries. Yeah. You're in the cold mind, my boy. Boy, it doesn't seem right at all. He's coughing and dying a lot, these kids. Yeah, he's coughing a lot. Oh my. So the aboriginals were fascinated by the boy. Quote, I walk towards them at the same time, bearing his so it's the guy who's got the kid. I walk towards them at the same time, bearing his chest and showing the whiteness of his skin. Well, they're British. Check this out. Gonna see my boy here. He's got some really, hasn't been on

the sun in years. On the clothes, on the clothes being removed, the natives gave a loud shout and an old man with a long beard, hideously ugly, came close to us. The old guy put a hand on the child's hat. Of course. And then felt his clothes while he muttered to himself and then wandered off. Fucking shit. What the fuck happened to the world? Give me my hat back, you fucking. The aboriginal seemed confused by the English quote, these people seemed at a loss to know probably from our lack of beards what sex we were. That's why you got to get nude. That's the goal. That's why you go Jenny's out. That's how you play it. Yeah. Well, that's what they did. The English dropped their pants. Oh, Jesus. Did they really? Yeah. Wow. And then the quick way of working it

out, isn't it? And then the aboriginals burst into laughter. Oh, boy. It's an eighth of mine. Look at this little man, please. That was the first colonial dick joke. If you think about it. Dick shaming. Finally. They signed and gestured to each other for over an hour. The aboriginals kept repeating the word aura, which means be gone. It's funny to keep mentioning it just in conversation. Like anyway, where are you guys from? Be gone. Where'd you come from? What are these ships? Be gone. Be gone. You know, like they're dropping it in. Why doesn't your kid have a shirt? Be gone. Weird hat. Be gone. Why are you naked? Be gone. They finally walked away and left. So they've understood finally. Yeah. No, the aboriginals took off. Yeah, the English hung around. When does

it close? When's last call? The English set about to explore the country. They would often, so there's now the English were setting up. They would often come across Aboriginal people, but it was all friendly. The English started to hope they could form a relationship. Quote, our first object was to win their affections and our next to convince them of our superiority. Wow. I mean, yeah, yeah. It's how you become friends with people. Hello. It's very nice to meet you. I'm better than you. Hi, how are you? I feel that's like what magicians are always trying to do. You know what I mean? They're always like, hey, good to meet you. See that shit? Whoa. It's like, all right, dude, relax. Better than me. Stop trying to show off your superiority. You deal with those

sexual assault claims. No, magicians are always, I don't know. I'm just suspicious of them. I'm a comedian. I've worked with them for years. I don't want to put that over all magicians, but you know what I mean. Yeah, it's a lot of doves. Anyone who's got nine doves inside them that you don't see. Oh, shady. I'm just I'm just suspicious. That's all your drug and doves with Valium. Anyway, other shit I like. So you're on record. You're opposed to that. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Not enough people coming out against that. That anti dub Valium. And don't drug the one that flies. He's the only one who doesn't get Valium. The rabbit Odeid, by the way, he is. He's got junk marks up his paw left and right. He is a junker. I'm 100%. So one day an officer decided to show the British's

advanced weaponry. So the Aboriginal set up a target against a tree which he shot with a pistol. They were freaked out by the sound but they didn't run off and then they were amazed at the damage that had been done from the bullet quote. As this produced a little shyness, the officer to dissipate their fears and remove their jealousy whistled the tune. Well, that'll be any moment, really. It just whistled a good tune, which appeared which advanced Australia. I do trust him. Yeah, which they appeared highly charmed with and imitated him with equal pleasure and readiness. Could they they whistled right away? I think they whistled back as days went by, the Aboriginal seem to shy away from the British. The British were not sure why as they

said they tried to treat them with kindness and give them presents. There's no arguing or quarrels. Yeah, but do you think they sense the vibe of superiority part two of the two tiered plans? For sure. You get your first mirror, you get bored of it, you want the new one. When's the mirror to come out? I am sick of his old mirror. It's too big. It can't fit in my pocket. The beads are shit. This quote has given me the opinion that they either fear or despise us too much to be anxious for a closer connection. Could have possibly been but the British wrote about how hideous they thought the Aboriginals looked, right? Yeah, no, they're giving off a vibe and they look down upon their dress and their use of bones and painting themselves with

decoration and their use of bones. They would put they would put bone like stick bones to them. Well, you know, that is a little close in their nose. Oh, yeah. You meet someone who's got bones from you like chill like it's human. Probably a magician. Yeah. Was this your bone? That was my bone. How did you? Wow. That's my fever. That's the one I had. Walking is not an option. The locals had only one domesticated animal, a dog, which they called dingo. Quote, as the Indians see the dogs dislike us, they are sometimes mischievous enough to set them on individuals whom they chance upon in the woods. Dogs know. They're just sicking dogs on British people in the woods. It's fucking awesome. Down boy, does he know down? Down boy, naughty boy, roll over. That is the

fucking funniest thing to do. Oh my God, we all want to do that at some point in our lives to a neighbor or something. Sicking boy, just mauling. Fuck that'd be that'd be a real sense of power, wouldn't it? So there are times when the aboriginals are clearly fucking with the British and the British have no idea. Quote, they know no other beasts but kangaroo and dog. Whatever animal has shown them, they call it a kangaroo. Soon after our arrival, I was walking out near a place where I observed a party of Indians looking at some sheep and repeatedly yelling kangaroo, kangaroo. They're just fucking with them. No, no, that's not a kangaroo. That's sheep. No, that's what the Scottish sleep with you fool. Scottish means. At first they thought the local

spears weren't much to worry about but they soon learned that was far from the case. The wounds inflicted by spears were very dangerous and they had considerable skill throwing them. Quote, we know that two convicts who disappeared were found most dreadfully mangled and butchered by the natives. A spirit passed entirely through the thickest part of the body of one of them and the skull of the other was beat in. The natives also have long wooden swords capable of inflicting a mortal wound and clubs of immense size. Their general favorite insult is gonon pada, which means an eater of human excrement. Wow. Eat shit. That's great. They yell at their enemies. Shit eater. That's fucking great. Love that. I mean, it's the universal language. Everybody fucking

gets that one. Isn't that interesting? We say eat shit in modern culture and they had that back in indigenous culture. Isn't that crazy? It's a universal thing. They would have been tribal dudes. They would have eaten shit. You are a dickhead. Yeah. No, there's never been a people, anyone on earth where someone just picked up shit and was like, and everyone else is like, yeah, that's cool. Well, yeah, never happened. Well, we're getting there in America. I mean, we're not, we're what? Four months away from people being like, it actually isn't as bad as you think. We're going to be okay. We will survive. We will use guns to rob other people of their feces. In March 1789, a little over a year after arriving, 16 convicts walked off their jobs and headed to

Botany Bay with the idea to attack the aboriginals and steal their fishing tackle and spears. Oh, boy. But when they got there, the aboriginals attacked them. Quote, our heroes were immediately defeated and all tried to flee. One was killed, seven were severely wounded. The convicts walked off their job. So they walked off from being prisoners. Well, yeah, some convicts who were doing this. Yeah, like some convicts did that. So it's a labor camp. Like you're, yes, I guess the idea is, you know, correct from wrong, but like you're in the middle of nowhere. So they're not going to really. So they saw two convicts come back beaten to death and speed. And then they said, you convicts go find where the people did this with no weapons. They couldn't have given the

convicts weapons though, right? It was totally the convicts ideas. They were just like, let's just go get steal a bunch of shit from these guys to give them autonomy. That's cool. Yeah. So the governor is furious. At first, the convicts said they were they were quietly picking tea when they were attacked. Well, they're English. Where's always your cover up? My wife's dead. Well, couldn't be. I was having a cup of char. It's impossible. Fancy a spot. But I just love the fight. The worst excuse it. No, we were picking tea. We were just convicts. Yeah, we picked it off the tea bag tree. Right. So they said they were attacked with no provocation. But there were some inconsistencies in their stories. And soon the truth came out. The convicts were severely flogged. The locals

seemed to not enjoy the punishment of the flogging. So the Aboriginals are when they saw flogging, they were like, what the fuck is wrong with you people? Yeah, man, one time a group of Aboriginal men witnessed the whipping of a convict who had stolen their fish. But an Aboriginal man threatened the soldier who was doing the beating with a stick, quote, it was very difficult for him to understand why the soldier had reacted so cruelly over a fish. Yeah, he's like, dude, there's a lot of fish, man. Yeah, the fuck you've beaten that guy for, dude, there's more. There's a whole ocean of them. In May, April and May 1789, the British began to hear stories of many bodies of Aboriginals being found in the coves and inlets of the harbor. So they went to check and they found they'd have

all died of what appeared to be smallpox. Quote, but how a disease could it once have introduced itself and have spread so widely seemed inexplicable, inexplicable, whatever might be the cause, the existence of the sickness could no longer be doubted. The British tried to figure out how something like that could have arrived. Yeah, I wonder why that came from foreign people emerged and created a new disease amongst them. It couldn't have been us, we were picking tea. Quote, did the French ships hear more than a year right away? It's got to be the French, right? Always blame the French. It's English way. Yeah. Did they introduce it? Had it traveled across the connet from its western shore where other European voyagers had formerly landed? Was

it introduced by Mr. Cook? None of the British had had up for over 17 months, they said, though some of the surgeons had brought it smallpox in bottles for inoculations. Oh, good. No, it's smart to pack that. Yeah. They forgot about the one guy who was like, oh, I need to... I was picking tea. So over 50% of the eora were wiped out by this smallpox epidemic. Jesus. Yeah, it's a no joke with smallpox. It'll come back. In December 1790... Just laces in a little sweet thesis. I don't worry, it'll be back. Anyway, let's get down to the podcast. On December 1790, a sergeant of the Marines along with three convicts, one of whom was John McIntyre, went out to do some... McIntyre, great apple, go ahead. Yeah, yeah. That's good as a honeycrisp, but I know what you're talking about.

Great. Do you guys have honeycrisps? Pink ladies? Yeah, we got pink ladies. All right, good talk. Apple part of the show's over. Honeycrisps are the fucking best. The what crisp? Honeycrisp. Honeycrisp? Apple. Color honeycrisp. You're talking to a gala guy, so relax, bro. Settle. So these guys went out hunting. John McIntyre was the governor's gamekeeper, right? So he's the... I guess he goes and shoots the governor's game or whatever. Or he keeps the... What kind of game do they... What's a gamekeeper? Maybe they're talking about like Bingo or like... Yeah, no, they're at Respoint. They're definitely here. Yeah, no, game. Like... Yeah, but what kind of... What game would they have? Yeah. Fowl? Would he have his own private game, like a sheep and a cow just for him? But then

you wouldn't employ someone to keep him, would you? Well, I mean... And do you call sheep... Call a sheep and a cow game? Like to me, game's a little something... Isn't game wild? Yeah, kangaroos. Whoa. What the fuck just happened? I didn't know we were making people in the crowd. That is... What did you just... What did you just eat? What did you just eat? What did you just eat? How is the cocaine? What did you yell? Rabbits. Yeah, but they wouldn't... Well, rabbits weren't here yet, were they? No. No, no, rabbits came later. So it'd be like... They'd be like kangaroo and animals that they caught and then they'd keep it. Okay, all right. So he's out hunting and they walked north of Botany Bay. They made a little hut and a fire to

settle down for the night. About one a.m. the sergeant woke up because he heard a rustling noise in the bushes. He thought it might be a kangaroo and he yelled to the other guys and they all got up and then they saw two Aboriginal men with spears in their hands creeping towards them and three others a little further behind them. Okay, now you're praying for a kangaroo. McIntyre said, quote, don't be afraid. I know them. And he put down his gun and he stepped forward and started speaking to them in their language. And the Aboriginal men slowly retreated as McIntyre followed them for about a hundred yards and they're talking the whole time. And then one of them threw a spirit McIntyre and stuck it in his left side. Okay, so the talk wasn't great.

Yeah, it sounded awkward because whenever you're walking and just slowly pacing it's always gonna be tense. At an extra hundred yards. I think I've charmed them. Do my side. Something in me. The Aboriginal man who threw this beer was described as a young man with a speck or blemish on his left eye. Well, he'll be easy to find. I mean, we've got a suspect. The blemish boy. McIntyre yelled, quote, I'm a dead man. Last words. So dramatic. Much better than your last words are literally like, I'm dead. Wasn't that one of them we did? Just doing earlier. Yeah, I'm dead earlier this week. The guy was like, I'm dead. Take my gun. It's just a cup of tea. I'm dead. Yeah, movies made us ramble on far too much. It's just like you have like one sentence left. It's not time for a

paragraph. Keep it short. Yeah, I've died. So one guy stayed with McIntyre while two other guys chased the Aboriginal man with their guns. I would definitely be the guy staying with McIntyre. Be like, yeah, go talk to them. I'll make sure he's dead. He broke off the end of the spear. Okay, which I wouldn't have done. Well, that's just kind of like, you know, now we can walk around if he survives. Okay. Yeah, not bumping into things like a cat with a cone on its head. Plus he can't get through a door. Yeah, every room he enters, he's like the three stooges in one do awkward. It's like a dog with a stick in its mouth. No, buddy, no, your dimensions. No, buddy, turn it. He's the brain is little. The Aboriginals had thrown this beer, got away,

and then they then they started carrying McIntyre home because he said he didn't want to he didn't want to die out in the woods. By the way, the way they got away was that the two guys who were chasing after them stopped after 10 feet and we're just sort of like pretend like we chased after them. Yeah. No, no, we ran for a long time. We are gassed. I mean, we chased the shit out of them anywhere and they're like, they're right there. They were there and then they were gone. Unbelievable. Damn it. We really chased them too. I mean, we were like on their tails. So they reached Sydney about two o'clock the next morning and surgeons looked at the wound and said, oh, no, he's he's gonna die. Yes, he was right. The thing he said right when I went in him. Yeah,

he was spot on. But he still has more time for like last words at this point. Oh, he's got a lot of time to write some more stuff. Yeah, so he went too early with the last word. Yeah, he's always awkward. Open with the closer. Yeah. Yeah, never smart. Quote McIntyre now began to utter the most dreadful confessions. Oh, no. Now here we go. Plans going down and to accuse himself of crimes of the deepest kind, as are too terrible to repeat. I like to think that's what Trump will do at the end. There were no deals. They were bad deals. So McIntyre clearly done something to the Aboriginal people that warranted retaliation. Those around him when he died decided not to record the crimes that he was speaking of. But he clearly done something to piss them off. That's amazing

when something's so bad, you can't even write it down. What levels of hats? What did he fucking do? Yeah, there are like, oh, boys, pens down. Pens down, gentlemen. Come on, treat it like the LSATs. Put them down. Time's up. Let them roll. Did you say treat it like the LSATs? Yeah. Do they have that here? No. That's playing in a car in Detroit right now. Someone's like nailed it, Gary. So over the day, several Aboriginal, the British knew, including some they'd kidnapped and forced to be quote, ambassadors, came in to the room. What do you mean? Who did they kidnap? Well, there's some with some they would go and kidnap a guy from a tribe and then keep him as a prisoner and be like, you're an ambassador now. Wow, that is. What a way to get a job. Yeah, yeah.

It's a great title. Yeah. Imagine if someone kidnapped you were like, you're in charge of this subway now. So you're a sandwich artist forever. You keep calling me a sandwich artist, but I feel like I'm a worker at Subway. No, no, no, my friend. You're an artist. The menu's there. Make it exactly the way we told you. Don't step out of line. Put the gloves on, dickhead. Yeah, don't touch the register with the gloves. It's not a force field. Filthy pig. That always happens. They're like, all right, I made a clean sandwich. Let's bring that up real quick. All right, let's just touch the germs and it'll be 850. I'm going to make another sandwich because these don't have germs on them. Yeah, there's not many germs on

money. No, no, no, no, no, not at all. Exactly. Yeah. Well, that's why you launder it. So these ambassadors and other Aboriginal guys are brought in where McIntyre is laying there dying and they repeated the name of the man they said who had thrown the spear. I'm going to fuck this up probably. I just listened to it like 10 times, but I thought at first the name had the name at the end. So he lives in Botany Bay and he's a member of a tribe, a bit of a badass. So one of the surgeons indicated he wanted to take out the spear, but all the Aboriginals were like, no, no, no, they were, quote, violently, violently opposed that he'd do that. They said death would instantly

follow if the surgeon did that, but he went ahead and did it. And the extraction of the spear, however, judged practable was accordingly performed. That part of it, which had penetrated the body, measured seven inches, having it on it a wooden barb and several smaller ones of stoned fastened on with Trigum, most of which were torn off and lodged in McIntyre. So in other words, pulling it out, bad idea, all right. Yeah. He died within a week. Okay. So he's out. He's out of the story. Yeah. He's not coming back as like a zombie later. No. Well, we'll see. Oh, the Lieutenant Governor wrote a British zombie brains, please. May I spot a brain,

potentially? The Lieutenant Governor Governor wrote that it was long suspected that McIntyre had been shooting and injuring Aboriginal people on his own time. Yeah, just like that was like one of his, was that the thing? Yeah, that was one of the things that he was doing that wasn't great. I see me do another stuff. The penal colony, like it doesn't seem that like, it seems like that wouldn't be that shocking. I go down and kill people. Yeah, yeah. But in order to stop the Aboriginals from doing something like this again, he sent out a search party to find the man who wounded and killed McIntyre. So he's now he's sending someone out to find, pull me away. Sure. At the same time,

he's strictly forbid under penalty of the severest punishment, any person to fire on any Aboriginal except in self defense. So the party he sent out was to bring back quote six natives who reside near the head of Botany Bay, or if that should be found impractical to put six of them to death. What? What? What? So send send a party out to kidnap and grab six guys, or if you can't do that, just go ahead and kill them. Kill six guys? Yeah. Is there not like a middle step? No, there's nothing in between those. It's kind of the all or nothing. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. The captain in charge of the party met with the governor just before the order was issued, and they discussed it. The governor said he wanted to bring in two Aboriginal men as prisoners

and kill 10 guys. And he wanted all their weapons destroyed, but no hut was to be burned. No women or children injured. As long as the huts are okay. Yeah, kill. But just don't fuck up their houses. Yeah. Insurance hasn't been invented yet. Yeah. Quote that we were to cut off and bring in the heads of the slain for which purpose hatchets and bags would be furnished. Jesus. He said that since our arrival in the country, no less than 17 of our people had either been killed or wounded by the natives and that he looked upon the tribe known by the name of the big deal wood natives is what they were called that that's who palm always that's who his tribe is. Okay. The British called them the wood natives to be the principal aggressors. So he wanted to strike a decisive

blow against this tribe to convince them of English superiority and make them understand terror to prevent any further killings. I believe it's called spreading democracy. Yeah. Yeah. The governor, quote, in the in this business of Macintosh, I am fully persuaded that the natives were unprovoked and the barbarity of their conduct admits no mercy. Yep. That is contradictory. No, no, not to know that they were unprovoked. So the only way to retaliate is through barbarism. Yeah. Okay. Wow. He tried to persuade the more friendly tribes to bring in a palmule, but they were not giving him up. They said he had a quote distorted foot. Was it a hand? So they're not giving him up, but they're like, but he's a clue.

Yeah. Yeah, it's a who done it now. Yeah. Oh, you have to work for this. It is like law and order. He's got a fucked up foot. You find him. I don't have anything to tell you, but he's got a foot that's off. I'm done. A lead. I don't know if I'm that will be back right after this. So the governor thought this was bullshit. But what they were saying was, was that in Aboriginal people, someone with a foot that was distorted like that was, was known as like a justice warrior. So his job amongst the tribes was to dispense justice. Right. So he's Batman. Right. Wow. Not that Batman. The comic one. The one we wish was real. Not the real one. So quote, as the governor quote, so I am resolved to execute the prisoners who may be brought in

in the most public and exemplary manner in the presence of as many of their countrymen as could be collected after having explained the cause of such a punishment. This is such a bad call. Bring them all and I'll show them what I've done. Good dumbass. Good luck. So the lieutenant governor begged the governor to reconsider whether killing 10 people was a good idea. He's a real smith. And said, maybe capturing. He said, maybe just capturing six is good. That might lead to less retaliation than killing 10. And in the end, the governor was convinced, but quote, if six cannot be taken, let them be shot. So that's how they ended up. So he just lowered the number. Yeah. Right. And four in the morning, the party headed out with

three days of food and ropes to bind their prisoners, as well as hatchets and bags to cut off and hold the heads in case they had to kill them. Oh, because you got to, you can't just leave ahead. Now, and you don't want to carry it. You want to like, no, well, it's hard. A little. Plus hair comes out. Yeah. Right. So you put in a bag like a tote. Yeah. Like, well, they're called headbags. Yeah, you can get them. The New Yorker gives them out if you'd get a subscription. If you get a subscription, you get a yeah, I think I just had a few. Enough. Sorry. Oh, you made it real. At least we're past all his head cutting off time in history. Yeah. This will never happen again. Cut to the video. What?

So by nine o'clock, they had reached the head of Botany Bay and walked around for a while. Cut it off. We've got one. We'll need a bigger bag. They saw no one. They could not. There were no Aboriginal people around. So they camped. They started up again the next morning. They saw five Aboriginal guys on a beach, but those guys just fucking ran off. Well, we pursued but a contest between heavy armed Europeans and naked unencumbered Indians was too unequal to last long. So they just took off because they're not armed and naked, which is faster. Word was out amongst the tribes that the whites were coming for vengeance. They saw some here and there, but they were clearly being avoided. That

night, they couldn't sleep because of all the mosquitoes and sand flies. So English. I wonder if the mosquitoes were like these. This is so fresh and tasty. So full of milky blood. The next morning they headed back and made it to Sydney. The governor then planned a second attempt. A few days later, a party marched out again this time in the middle of the night, hoping to surprise a village before daybreak. They came to what seemed like a wide creek that was dry. And they had two Aboriginal guys with them. And the guide said, don't cross this. And the British were like, yeah, we're going to cross it. So they like cross it immediately.

Quote, they who were in front had not, however, got half over when we were immersed nearly to the waist in mud so thick and tenacious that it was not without the most vigorous movement of every muscle of the body that the legs could be freed. When we reached the middle, our distress became more serious for each succeeding step buried us deeper. You can just imagine the Aboriginals going, I fucking told you. You guys are such cocky assholes. How about you listen to us once? Good core work, though. That's a nice core work. Oh my God. It's a good work out quick sand. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, quick one. That's what it is. Yeah, quick one. At length, a sergeant stuck fast and declared himself incapable of moving either forward or backward. Declared himself

I'm incapable of moving. Who declares shit like that? I have a decree. I'm sinking. I declare unmovable. I'm dying. It's declared. So and just after another did the same and I felt ourselves in a similar predicament. Who's following? I also declare stuck. Gentlemen, we declare ourselves stuck in the mud. And the Aboriginals are like, we're declaring ourselves laughing. Yeah. And how fucking stupid you are. This is funny than the time they showed us their dicks. Haven't heard them laugh this hard since we took our trousers off. I find it impossible to move. I am. We're loving this bit. We're loving this bit you're doing.

You guys are great. You're hilarious. Yes. I find it impossible to move. I am sinking was cried on every side. What to do? I knew not every moment brought an increased danger as those who could not proceed kept gradually sinking. This is kind of dynamite. I mean, it's like it's absurd. Yeah. Whatever you do, don't go in the creek. Let's go on the creek. Ah, help. I declare myself stuck. It's fucking ridiculous. Like how insane must the indigenous people think the white people are at this stage? They think they're absolutely fucking mental. Yeah. Because the first actually the first time indigenous came into my understanding is with the Dutch. And this is I might be wrong

about the story, but apparently the Dutch arrived and they were like, where's the gold? And the indigenous people are, we don't get what you're what this what you're saying is like gold. Where is it? Then they took a little kid and like, we're going to kill her if you don't tell us where the gold is. And they're like, we don't understand what you're saying. And they threw a spear at him and then they just left forever. That was their first interaction. Where's the gold gold gold? We'll kill her if we don't get the gold. All right, just go fuck it. There's no gold here. It's a great beginning. Yeah. And then eventually gold is oil. And here we are. Yeah. Too soon. I don't know what's going on.

Call clean call. So one of the soldiers stuck in the mud yell to the Aboriginal men on shore to cut tree branches and throw them to them. So this saved them. It saved them from dying in the river. They're able to use the tree branches to, you know, I guess crawl back over, isn't it? Yeah, throw me a branch. It took them an hour to get out. The sergeant was still sunk in mud to his chest, however. Oh, that is not where you want to be. No. So they wrapped a rope around him and all the men had to pull on it to drag him out. You got to feel really cool after that, though. I told you it'd be fine. Idea. Let's go around. No, no, no.

I'll show these blokes. A second crossing. This time with branches. To the mud. I've got a new decree. Quote, having congratulated each other on our escape and wiped our guns. Congratulations. Well, I think we've learned a lot. Yes, it's job well done, I'd say. And wiped our guns. We once more pushed forward and soon found ourselves about half an hour before sunrise. Half the guns were now useless, however. They were just like mudded with... Yeah, just mudded. So they came to the... I'll take it. I'll take a 60% hit. So they came to the village, they split up and they surrounded it, but there was not a single person in the huts. All the canoes were gone. Again, the Aboriginals were way ahead of them,

probably because all the time they were in the fucking mud yelling. Yeah, because of mudgate. They moved on and came to another village, also empty. At nine o'clock, they returned to Sydney, having failed to kill and kidnap humans. Bummer, man. But now crimes by Aboriginals were being subjected to a much harsher punishment than before. Two Aboriginals were seen stealing potatoes from a garden. They ran off, but a sergeant and party of soldiers chased them. And when they found them, they were at a fire with women, cooking, and the soldiers did not try to capture them, but started shooting at them instead. You just can't take potatoes away from British people.

They're versatile. They get weed about it. There's a future chips! Two of the men escaped and the women were taken. Which we've learned is not a good move. No. Then, Pamule led an attack on a work party at Botany Bay that happened to include the famous prisoner, Black Caesar. He was one of the first Black people to arrive in Australia as a prisoner. Caesar and Pamule fought, and Caesar cracked Pamule in the head with a club. Everyone thought Pamule was dead, but he managed to survive and escape. Black Caesar would go on to be one of the first bush rangers. In 1792, the colonies population was 3,500 white people. The governor was replaced. His policy of keeping Eora peoples away from settlements was to send military raids

against tribes in the region. In retaliation, the Eora warriors came to the settlements and killed, quote, many sheep and one white man until they were driven off by settlers. So Governor Philip now ordered his men to fire on Aboriginals to keep them away from settlements, but the Eora kept coming close because their harbor was where they got food. Right, yeah. That's where their food, so they had to go. Yeah, you can see the problem. The awkward place to claim is yours then. Yeah, yeah. We're claiming you're a refrigerator. Yeah, yeah. The Aboriginals were being treated as completely hostile, though they pretty much were not. In one instance, a boat sunk in the harbor, and the locals Aboriginals saw it happen. They jumped into the

water, swam out, and saved the white people. On shore, they took off their wet clothes, started a fire, dried the clothes, cooked them fish to eat, and then helped them get back to Sydney. How dare they? I didn't know if we were fine. You've embarrassed me. Psychological warfare, giving them something nice and, you know, act of terrorism. For a slow play. Yeah. Another example, a soldier got lost in the woods, and an Aboriginal party came across him. He happened to know one of the Aboriginal guys and tried to communicate that he was lost.

That's pretty easy to do. Okay. The Aboriginal man explained he was indeed very far from Sydney, but they would show him the way home. The only condition was the soldier had to give up his gun for the walk, and it would be returned to him when they arrived. After a while, the soldier agreed, and then the Aboriginal men laid down their spears, and they all escorted him to the settlement and gave him his gun, and then left. That's a good story. It's nice. A couple of nice stories here. I'm waiting for the harrowing one that's coming next. No, no, it'll all be fine. So now it's six years after the British had arrived, January 1794. David Collins,

Lieutenant Governor, remarked that the Hawkesbury settlement, a man had been wounded by some of the wood tribe, which is the tribe Pimaway belongs to. By April, shit is going off at that settlement. Quote, an open war seemed about that time to have commenced between the natives and the settlers, and word was received that two settlers had been killed by a party of Indians. The natives had a... Why did they stop calling them Indians? They were fucking poor and you're like, we're not in India. Yeah, we haven't stopped that in America, so I don't know. Well, they're Indians. Well, more like the baseball team is what I meant. Was that you on the ground, is it? Yeah. I'll give you guys credit. At least you don't have sports teams with

breaking people's heads on hats. Yeah, at least in this country, you're still not like, go Redskins, which we hear every weekend in America, casually. We're normal. Fuckin' invented, it's a fact. Yeah. So the natives had appeared in large groups, men, women, and children with blankets and nets to carry off corn, and the settlers were growing and seemed determined to take it whenever and wherever they could. So basically, Pull Me Away is now leading attacks on the settlement and taking the food. Right now. So Captain Patterson set off a party of soldiers, I'm gonna fuck up this name, from Parramatta? Parramatta. Parramatta, yeah. All right. I'm starting to get your A's down. It's hard. Their instructions were to destroy as many as they could

of the Wood Tribe and to create absolute terror, erect gallows in different places where they would hang the bodies of those they killed. It's not too dissimilar to modern-day Parramatta. It is amazing how fast white people will fuck everything up. Yeah, yeah. Like it just like there was like a grace period where it was like, oh, we're walking together. We're like learning that right away. It's like they're after us. Yeah, we've got to do something. You got to change his diaper. What's going on? Diaper time. So, but they went out and they were the idea was to set up these fucking, I mean, it's like putting heads on pikes, you know, they just want to put bodies on the place, but they

terrible message. They didn't kill anybody. They did capture some prisoners and they took them to Sydney. Quote, one man apparently a cripple, five women and some children. So they fucking kicked ass. Yeah, what's up, bitch? What the fuck with the best? During this, they shot a baby and a mom, Jesus Christ, who lived. They were alive. They just, the one mom was holding the baby and the bullet went through the baby into the mom. So that's a bummer. I know you guys, how you guys feel about babies, but I'm like against them being shot. And I'm from America. That's a pretty bold stance. That's like a pretty bold stance. Well, we in America have at least agreed life starts when it comes outside the body. Finally.

Yeah. That's where we agree. You can also stop life by coming outside the body. And it's not foolproof, but no, it's not. It helps. Fairly effective. Boy, am I in trouble. Anyway, used to me. Oh, you're Catholic. So a short, a very short time after being captured, the handicap guy escaped by swimming away. Well, shit, he's not handicapped when he's in the water. Look at him go. Captain Pete Patterson hoped that by detaining the prisoners and treating them well, it would lead to better relations. I mean, it's so stupid. We, but it's so dumb. We'll take the prisoner and then we'll treat them like crazy enough to work. After some time, he sent the wounded woman home. He did this after the baby died.

Oh, well, that's cool. Another woman delivered a baby boy, which then also died immediately. None of this was obviously going to have a great effect on the whole better relations thing by keeping them prisoner is not going great. Hopefully the crippled guy swam home. You know, like he could attack back in later. I feel like he'll be the third activist again. Yeah. So after this, the aboriginals attacked a nearby farm and killed the settler and his son. Right. Let's tip for tad. Yes. Another party of soldiers was then sent out, but the aboriginals kept their distance. Soldiers were now distributed throughout the settlement. And this would be permanent. So now there's soldiers, all the settlement. We missed you.

I don't know how far away you were with the baby died. He got genuinely sad. And it was because of you. Also, if you orgasm outside, no, we'll talk about that later. I don't know if you noticed, Dave, but somebody just gave us the finger. Pamela kept up the pressure and he wanted a convict who was going to a neighboring farm. In February 1795, the settlers of the northern farm were repeatedly being attacked and plundered of the food and clothing by a large group of aboriginals. They killed a man and woman. The settlers armed themselves and on one night pursued a raiding party the entire night, only to come across a group

of 100 aboriginals. Did they have records then? Because if they did, it scratched. Stop moving. One, two, three, four. Stop moving. One, two, three, four. Usually, the clans only numbered around 30, but Pamela had been bringing them together. But once they saw that the settlers all had guns, they fled. They left behind a large amount of corn, some musket balls and other things they had plundered. The settlers kept after the aboriginal party and tracked them to the outskirts of Paramatta. But the settlers are now exhausted for chasing them all night. They headed into town, only to discover they were being followed by a large party of natives led by Pamela Way. What? The switcheroo? Yeah, he's so front and back.

Yeah, it's not great. I think there's two of them multiplying with Pamela Way. The settlers had had enough of Pamela Way and wanted to capture him. But he stepped forward and threatened to spear the first man that tried to approach him. And then he did exactly that. Jesus, there was a guy who was like, I'll show you. It's the guy who goes in before Indiana Jones in every Indiana Jones movie. I've got this. His head's rolling. Oh God. Someone then shot a musket at Pamela Way and he was severely wounded. Then spears were flying. A settler was struck in the arm. Many settlers, many aboriginal were shot. Five instantly killed. Pamela Way received seven buckshot to his head and different parts all over his body. He was taken in very bad shape to the hospital.

He was assumed he would die. The colony had been trying to capture him since he had killed John McIntyre in 1790, which is five years ago at this point. He had remained active all over all those years attacking, plundering, but Pamela Way wasn't done yet. He escaped from the hospital with an iron around his leg and disappeared. Holy shit. This dude is incredible. Well, there's two of them. So to be fair, it just really is amazing how south it goes. This plan of taking over land seems to be very flawed, David. Yeah, it's definitely got some problems. Usually because there's people living there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. And when you claim a thing on earth as yours, it's sort of, it's abstract. Yeah. It'd be like if I moved into your house. Which you have,

and things have never been better. I sense tension. Well, I mean, we're roomies. I mean, I don't know what to tell you. Just put the toilet paper roll on right. You go walk through that creaky asshole. Two months later, the fighting had returned. Quote, the natives of the Hawkesbury were again very troublesome. After plundering one settler, of all they could carry away, they burned his dwelling house and a stack of wheat. Yeah, why not? Sure. Yeah, send a cool message. A couple of weeks later, the governor and some other men were out inspecting land for future sediments, and they stopped at a point near Botany Bay and came across several parties of aboriginals. One of whom was Pamule Way, completely recovered. Holy shit. Yeah, he's totally fine

now. And then he sees a man he recognizes in the party, and he asked if the governor was angry, and quote, seemed pleased at being told that he was not. He's not mad, right? That I've got shot, took off and keep killing people. He's okay. The settlers decided to take things up a notch and caught a young aboriginal boy. They bound him, dragged him across hot coals, threw him into a river, and shot him. Holy shit. That escalated. That's a serious escalation. Yeah. Because up until this, it's been like tit for tat food, like fighting, and now you're like, yeah. And this stage is still an opportunity for treaty. Yeah, I think so. Yeah. But when you take a boy and drag him across coals and throw him in water and shoot him, then you're like, we're not going

to do a treaty, probably. I believe it's called foreign policy, David. And we handle it very well on our end. By 1796, there were more and more raids on farms near Paramatta by the Eora. They plundered rations and clothing. They also began setting fire to the crops. There were several conflicts that occurred throughout the year. Many aboriginals were killed and several Europeans wounded. British reports also came in that said escaped Irish convicts were joining the Eora and telling them the best way to attack the settlers. Fucking Irish, my people. So great. I love it. They probably just thought booze was involved, though. They were definitely just like, yeah, they had a fertile, you have a point. What? You have a point. Point. Yeah. You got points.

I don't know what you're talking about. We're going to help you, but we got to stay hydrated, if you understand what I'm saying. Wink, wink. You know what I mean? Yeah, we have water. No, no. Something with bubbles in a bit of foam in it. There's sea water? Are you talking about when it hits the rocks? I was told you had beer. And if I've been misled, I... We have water. Well, it's a start. It's a component of beer. Which way to your yeast and other things? Hops. That's the one. Took a minute. Well, I'm not going to lie, I've had a few waters. I shouldn't drive, I'll say that. The British saw the attacks on soft targets like farms and isolated settlers as cowardly,

but this was just common sense for Camille Way because it would have been suicidal to attack the British with their inferior weaponry. Thomas Wattling, a convict, however, wrote that, quote, cunning, ferocity, treachery, filth, and revenge are their characteristics. So they just see them as being... But that's how you have to fight in that situation. It's reactionary. You have to burn the crops. Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. We'll get there. You're going to run into the guns. So a group of sailors disappeared when they went to explore an island. A second group was sent to find them, quote, to their extreme horror, they saw Captain Hill and one of the semen lying dead on the sand, cut and mangled in a most barbarous manner. Two other sailors, they saw floating on

the water with their throats cut from ear to ear. The fourth sailor was found dead in the bush, mangled in the same shocking manner. They saw some natives whom they believed to be cannibals, dragging the bodies of Captain Hill and the sailors from the beach toward some large fires, which they supposed were prepared for the occasion, and they were yelling and howling. Oh, okay. Well, they killed a bunch of soldiers. Yeah. At this point, I'd... Yeah. It's on. I mean, once you... Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Once the thing happened with the boy and the colonel... Yeah. It's on. By March 1798, Lieutenant Governor Collins wrote that a myth had grown around Pamule Way. Because he had been wounded so many times, right, he got hit by Blexes,

he thought he was dead, he got shot all those times, and he's been shot a bunch of other times and wounded, his people now believe he could not be killed by guns. Yeah, that's never... Yeah. I mean, we've seen that movie and we've read about this and it turns out you can. That's not a thing. Collins then decided, Collins heard this, they found out about it and decided they had to prove that Pamule Way could be killed by bullets. There are now so many spearings happening and burning of crops that Governor King in May of 1801 ordered settlers in Parramatta to fire on any natives in the area. The most wanted man, Pamule Way, still eluded capture and continued his attacks. His party's killed four white men in plundered farms. The governor outlawed Pamule Way.

Well, you can't outlaw him. That's it, he's illegal. I believe it would be like the Easter Bunny. If we don't believe him, he won't deliver. You can't just create a myth, he's not real. New rule, he's... That's it, he's not a thing. Pamule Way is a shared experience and we all need to just shut our brains off to him. He's a hologram. They put a reward of 20 gallons of rum. I'm sensing the end of Pamule Way. That is all you need to hear at this time. Or a free pardon for his captured dead or alive. My guess is even if a convict did it, he'd be like, I'll stay here if I can have that rum. Serve my time peacefully wasted, if that's cool with everyone. And then he was killed. A sailor came across Pamule Way in the

woods alone. His reign of terror came to an end and an English officer wrote that aboriginals had set him up. Quote, it was reported that Pamule Way's tribesmen requested that his head be carried to the governor as Pamule Way had, they claimed, been the cause of all that had happened. That is sad. They want to reconcile. Right, the belief that you're like, we can solve colonialism. We will stop the whites. We just need to be cool. We killed our greatest war. Well, there's always going to be those people that are like, stop. Yeah, well, for sure. Yeah, but as we've learned, I mean, war is perpetual. Yeah. So his head was cut off and put into a jar of vinegar. That's the British for you.

This is good vinegar. And it was sent to Sir Joseph Banks in London. A friend of the governor wrote of Pamule Way, quote, although a terrible pest to the colony, he was a brave and independent character. The lieutenant governor wrote that after Pamule Way relations with locals improved, quote, by slow degrees, we began eventually to be pleased with and to understand each other. That's kind of well, isn't that how you're supposed to start? Well, that but that also is not having read the history. I feel like that's not how that went down. No. The head of Pamule Way was reported in 1803 to be in the Museum of a Mr. Hunter, a London anthropologist. In the 19th century, Pamule Way's head was believed to be in the Museum

at the Royal College of Surgeons in London. Now, Aboriginal people, for some strange reason, were upset that a great hero's head would be kept in England. And in 1990, it was reported, 1990, 1990, it was reported, the Dublin Royal College of Surgeons refused to return Pamule Way's head and other Aboriginal remains to Australia. What? Many British scientists still believe it was legitimate to keep the remains. Not in 1990. What the fuck? The return of Pamule Way's skull became a passionate issue for many Indigenous Australians, and the calls to bring his skull back to Australian soil increased. During a 2010 trip to Sydney, Prince William spoke to Aboriginal elders and expressed his desire

to help in the search and effort to return it so they don't know where his head is. Pamule Way's head is widely suspected to be at the British Museum of Natural History. Quote, museums like that have millions and millions of specimens. It may not have been labeled as a skull of an Indigenous man from Australia. It's entirely possible it's just sitting in a drawer or shelf somewhere. Jesus. Must be a big museum to lose a human skull just around. Pamule Way's head, Pamule Way's fight against a British lasted for 12 years. That's incredible. What a character. Yeah. That would make a great movie. That really would. That would make a fucking kick-ass movie. I think someone did make a movie, but I doubt it's that good.

Yeah, it would actually make a fantastic movie. It's a really interesting story. But there's also a lot of... There's a dearth of records because they weren't like, hey, he killed Frank today. It was pretty cool. So he came in us with a... Yeah, for sure. You know what I mean? There's no narrative. Yeah, there's not a lot of... The big thing was when he fought Black Caesar, like that was like a huge story, but then other stuff was just kind of one line, you know? We're so fucked. No, no, it's good. No, it's still the... It's just amazing that they cared so little that they lost the head. But it's also the idea that it still is the same thing where it's like the concept of basically still like foreign policy is that the way to fix the world is to

go into a culture and just tell them through force that your way is right. And we've been learning that lesson that it's not going well. No, no, it worked in Iraq. And we still... We still do it and we're like, another liberated nation. And that's still the lesson that we will never fucking learn. And what you always forget is how you can trace things back to these moments, these key moments where things could... If you tried to meet in the middle and be peaceful, but instead we are always just like our way and it hasn't worked yet. Well, you are a buzzkill. I'm sorry, I know that's your job. I didn't mean to step on your toes here, David.

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Well, I guess we should take off our pants. You guys want to go get the slot machines or what do you want to do? I don't know. How you guys want to set up penny slots for a little while? By the way, the owners of this establishment have not been treating their work as well. And they basically spent a lot of money doing an ad campaign around Australia for different shit and then decided the best way to handle that would be to try to fuck with the workers and pay them less. And screw them over. The last time I've been going back and forth with the union

discussing it and basically the last thing was just fuck it, take our offer or fuck off. So that's kind of where the workers are here at this casino, which is pretty fucked up. Just so you know. You know right now the head of it is in back with a kerchief like, Anthony, show you. Who knows? Maybe there's enough to do a dollop about this casino. My guess is we will not be doing it here in Hobart. As if we came back for that one. We're happy to have you guys back. Thanks a bunch. You're excited. Love the last one. They had to teach it a little bit for us, but we're excited

to hear that. 1989. Well, that's late for a year. I'll rest point. Well, thank you guys so much for coming out. We really appreciate it. Give it up for Damian. Thank you. We end our shows a little differently than we have in the past. Yeah. So you guys know I'm a big, most of you know I'm a big environmental guy. So I got my degree in and all that stuff. And the stuff I learned in 1995 is now happening. So the IPCC put out a report. They put out a report every five years. And they put out one a week and a half ago. They basically said we have 10 years to change the planet and to change what we're doing. Or it's like food scarcity and wars and

just fucking hell on earth. Tons of animals dying. Half of them. Great berry reef will probably not survive this summer. So we got to change some shit. And the way we're doing it's not working. Obviously, our politicians don't give a shit about what we think in your country and mine. And at this point, not believing in climate change is like not believing in air. It's just it's pretty stupid. So the fighting over climate change and having this stupid fight is pointless. Scientists have given us all the information we need. And so we're going to start a group. We have started a group. It's called Planet Change 10. 10 being that's how much time we have to change things. Planet isn't plan. Plan it. No, seriously, it is planet.

So what we would like to do is when people hear the truth about what's actually happening to the planet, when a report like this comes out, they get terrified. Especially parents. And kids are very scared. I know kids that are going to sleep crying. And for me personally, a couple weeks ago my son was like, when I'm older, I want to have two children and live in a house. And my first thought was you're not going to want to have children. You're not going to have children because the world's going to be fucked up. So I don't want to have those thoughts. So the idea is to get people who are paralyzed by this fear because most people just don't know what to do or they don't can't think of anything to do because the politics is so fucked up. Get

people together in this group. Have people talk about their fears. I mean, it's almost like a sort of a group therapy session. You're just expressing how terrified you are. And kids can do the same in this group. And the idea is to have artists listen to these things and then come up with art that we can just spread everywhere. That, you know, you can use online videos. You can use street art, whatever it is. And we just take everyone's fears and we plaster it everywhere because that is not part of the equation right now. And it needs to be. And it will help those people who are scared. Yeah. In what was in like the last year, Cape Town was going to be the first place that had zero water and was going to hit that level. And what ended up happening was they

hit like zero water or close to it and everybody fucking freaked out and they haven't hit it because they were able to actually find ways to conserve and they got a little bit of luck from like rain and shit. But they were at the brink and were able to change things. And so the idea is that we don't want to be 10 years from now having to be like, oh, we're fucked. Let's change things. Like, we're already fucked. I mean, we're talking about like a U-turn. And so things need to dramatically change. And we live in a world where, you know, it's very easy to ignore shit on a day to day basis. But this is a huge fucking problem. And our country is a great example of watching an elite few hundred thousand people, whatever it is, if you include lobbyists, who are in charge.

And in our country and in most countries, we fear our government. And really, it's time for the government to fear us. And it's time for them to worry about us. And so this is a way to motivate something like that. So what we really ask is that take out your phone now. If you're on Facebook, if you're on Twitter, whatever the fuck it is, just join plan, new word it, change 10. And we're going to try to at least cause some shit and try to make people. And like Dave's saying, I mean, the idea that you will nurture a child's dream that isn't real is fucking crazy. And so it's for the youth. And like you were saying with Scott Morrison. Yeah, I mean, what if you had 100 kids put right their fears down on a piece of paper, and then go down to Scott Morrison's office,

and they'd each read it, read it off that piece of paper. What's what's he gonna say to that? Fuck you, children. And if he does, let's put that kind of pressure on them. And if that is his reaction is that, then you step it up even more. Yeah, I mean, he might do that. So I mean, in our country, that is it. They ignore us. They know that in six days, there will be a new thing. But we have at in America right now, bombs are getting sent to people. And we have a president who will not acknowledge that that's his fucking fault. So reality doesn't matter to these people anymore. It has to. It matters to us matters to everybody. So join the group and let's at least try to fucking teach these fuckers some shit. Which is the tag of the group. Let's teach these fuckers some shit.

Guys, thank you so much for coming out. We appreciate it really. Thank you. Thank you. Join the group. Hope you get up again, sir. We appreciate it.