The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 357 - The Piedras Negras Jail Break

Episode Date: December 18, 2018

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the Piedras Negras jail break. SOURCESTOUR DATES OFFICIAL MERCH...

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Starting point is 00:02:41 that's thirdlove.com slash dollop for 15% off today yeah no no it's becoming someone of a tradition that I'm not a fan of you're listening to the dollop it's a bicentennial American History podcast each week I drink her beer man with skin lover of Bixby Dave Anthony reads a story from American History to his friend Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about we have shows coming up in Phoenix on the 18th of January we have
Starting point is 00:04:01 a show coming up the next night in Los Angeles and then we have shows coming up the next month in Atlanta and Philly yeah so go to dolloppodcast.com to get tickets yeah Houston's tomorrow so it doesn't matter I'll be in American Comedy Club in San Diego December 27th through the 29th that's exciting yeah comedy clips really great always fun to kill momentum it's just we're giving out dates for what's the fucking problem no one here is freaking out everyone's still excited so I've been wanting to do the story for two years I read it to I read it two years ago I have a friend Josh Olson he wrote violence history of
Starting point is 00:04:46 love he wrote the history of violence and I read this story and I was like this I'm not gonna do this is a dollop and I just sent him an email and I was like I think the thing like was holy fuck this is a movie and so we wrote it and we're actually sending it out next week so and we worked so hard on it I mean this is not together and yeah when you're pen in a script and that's what we called it in the room yeah no sucker just got a third of everything dumbass don't put your hand up like that you just ended a contract see in the writers room Josh I don't think you know how contract work board and the tax the story was in Texas monthly it was written by a great
Starting point is 00:05:35 writer who wrote for Texas monthly for years called Jan Reed yeah yeah great writer got shot in Mexico shit he made it he wrote about it after that's how we all know okay spoiler yeah a little bit late 1940s Texas sterling Blake Davis senior was on the wrestling circuit okay alright he was known as Dizzy Davis or sometimes Gardena Davis depending on the locale he sported a very colorful hand sewn robe and handed out flowers in smokies arena arenas mostly in Mexico or on the on Texas border down near Mexico okay Dizzy was an over-the-top very effeminate character okay one could
Starting point is 00:06:34 say he was the first gay wrestler character okay but sterling didn't see it working out beyond Mexico and he handed the character over to his Houston buddy gorgeous George Wagner who then went to California and made a fortune with his routine on TV okay after a decade is so Dizzy retired okay by 1972 he owned a large home Dizzy did Dizzy okay we are we calling Blake Blake no Stirling's disease gone that's a character don't get angry at me you're the one you follow the guy Dizzy eight times all the goddamn story have so sterling aka Dizzy Dizzy's dead he didn't die he got handed off yeah well don't lie to me
Starting point is 00:07:19 just cuz you want to make a point some other guy made a fortune with his character yeah gorgeous George sterling had a house in 1972 sterling owned a home large home on the east shore of Dallas's Lake Ray Hubbard okay he's 68 years old at this point his health is his health is not great is he getting dizzy cuz then made a renaissance okay go ahead he's divorced has two sons grown sons one Blake sterling Blake Jr. nicknamed Cooter oh boy awesome Cooter had been arrested with 700 first Cooter had been arrested duh first Cooter's gone to jail no if a cop ever cops like what's your name Cooter come here come
Starting point is 00:08:11 here what do you got in your pockets what's up your butt Cooter well your honor I wasn't doing nothing what's your name son Cooter yeah no that's that's grounds for search you can't I'm Cooter son of Dizzy so Cooter have been arrested with 770 pounds of pot in Arizona she's yeah that's that's a lot of pot a lot of pot he liked to smoke he was a big he fucking loved smoking it's a lot of pot so he what can you legally carry is it under that yeah in California you can carry 769 pounds foolish man yeah so he got put in prison in Arizona for what now sterling himself had not exactly been
Starting point is 00:09:07 flying the straight and narrow himself since his wrestling days okay I've been running scams okay so his latest one was convincing people to get into bullfrog farming whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa you're telling me that's a scam I just bet the farm on a business such as that damn it he would tell them he would tell people they can make a shitload of money from raising bullfrogs uh-huh well I got no more questions of course can't quote one investor testified that Davis falsely claim testified isn't good that Davis falsely claimed to own a 650 acre frog farm in Arkansas sure the old frog farm yeah for
Starting point is 00:09:58 sure man look at them hop from my look you see him man as far as I can see just bullfrogs I hop and hey we just found a speaker that's making bullfrog noises no no you can see him hopping out there head on out milk some bullfrog to be the best milk for you Rihanna who has a sponsorship with frog milk he said in a single year Rice University research scientists bought 9,000 bullfrogs from him at $16 a frog do the math is it I mean is this about the frog bubble the frubble yeah yeah yeah yeah it's a subfrog mortgage so he'd sell people a $3,000 package to get them started in the world I would say this but my
Starting point is 00:10:54 grandparents did got in whatever it didn't they it didn't go well for them either because it's not real so you would sell people a three yeah my grandparents bought a bullfrog situation he just wanted out of the house painting business so tells me he went back I gotta fucking paint because a bullfrog debt the market frogged on me you know it so here's the package two portable swimming pools so far it's a great one with bad filters frogs an instruction manual and a piece of vibrating sheet metal caught up called an automatic feeder what so you want the you want the
Starting point is 00:11:51 so you put maggots on the metal which and the metal would bounce and then the bullfrogs were supposed to think that the maggots were alive and eat them what did he just like come up with some option generator that was like all right we got cheat metal we got maggots vibrating all right one guy hung a dead arm a dillo full of maggots over his metal and that still didn't work where it wasn't everyone was buying it it wasn't working you need this to say it's it's it's all total bullshit right bullfrog bullshit and most most people would eventually set the bullfrogs free because they were starving oh they
Starting point is 00:12:35 couldn't figure out the maggot automatic feeder bullfrogs like no that's not a thing one woman sat in a tree what the climbed up in a tree with binoculars to watch to see if the bullfrogs they didn't yeah the problems proximity they're like we don't like eating in front of others well hit up in that tree they still wasn't eaten I saw how I needed binoculars so he scams 70 people at least 70 people that we know of okay nice chunk of change and was arrested okay he testified that his bullfrog freeder his bullfrog feeder there it is say it 20 times yeah he testified that his bullfrog feeder worked perfect for some
Starting point is 00:13:19 people not not others though sure and in February 1974 he was found guilty on ten counts of fraud a frog fraud fraud so I'm both really I mean yeah the judge said frog fraud the judge said quote you are one of the best car non-con artists that has ever appeared before me I thank you your honor I'll see myself out cooter get the car I'm in jail so he's supposed to he was ordered to make restitution to his victims he's fined ten thousand dollars and sentenced to five years in prison followed by five years probation okay but Davis claimed bad medical health health he he had a long scar from open heart and surgery he
Starting point is 00:14:13 recently had okay which he showed the doctor the judge the doctor was like you know I did no I did that I don't need to see that fucking deal so you can't put anything up my butt cuz I got this what which appointment am I at no this is we do oil changes oh well I can't pay for it on account of this but you say something about your button yet no you know you need to hear some bullfrogs that go great you guys got all this metal those are basically feeders so the doctor then changed the judge the judge sorry I keep saying doctor in May of 74 the judge sentenced changed him to
Starting point is 00:15:04 probation for his whole his old run ten years right okay that same month cooter was paroled from his Arizona prison wow this timing's lovely yeah and then he was arrested in Mexico for transporting a hundred and seventy five pounds of marijuana oh cooter look if it works it works right well it hasn't worked yep what so so for three weeks he was trapped naked to a bed while federalies and tech interrogated him Jesus yeah it's not cool you shouldn't down there it's not as nice to put on a bed though that's like at least you're like okay I doubt it had a mattress oh it was just like let's in my mind okay and he's hard
Starting point is 00:15:51 okay a weird little mind palace you have going on and they put a little Mexican flag on his wiener huh but there we go you talk cooter so after three weeks he signed a confession that he could not read he was imprisoned in a sauteo and then he bribed a warden so his dad got a money hold on one second can you be quiet over there real quick sorry well we just did a recording recently where someone was talking the whole show we listen over like oh fuck yeah that was Boston that was we call them the loud people yeah I don't mean to be rude the person at the Boston show is like oh I was like I'm just trying
Starting point is 00:16:33 to concentrate up here at the show that we're doing okay so he bribes a warden $2,000 to tunnel out of the prison okay and then he he starts tunneling so wait he basically bought like a tunnel permit he didn't just like the warden the warden's the top dog you should be like right out this way but it's that he's like you got to earn it okay we're trying to find out if fear is a factor for you okay you can dig there's a spoon he starts tunneling uh-huh and then the warden tells all the guards and so cooters like I was framed by the warden he tells the guards that so the warden had other inmates attack cooter with
Starting point is 00:17:18 blades so he ended up getting a big cut and so he's not a big scar under his chin Jesus okay look it's not it's not cool great in Mexican prisons no no American prisons are awesome yeah that's where you want to that's where you want to go somewhere nice Miami something like that yeah yeah yeah nice you get a nice view of the black yeah exactly yep so Sterling me while needed employment as part of his probation so he convinced the administrator of a non-accredited college in Dallas that he had a valid degree in psychology man okay and then he had experience he did not have it anything you don't need to
Starting point is 00:17:56 tell any of us that part where's this Trump University located exactly you see on the map here what are you talking about so soon he was teaching night classes on meditation techniques what he said we're started by Andean Indians he called it transcendental relaxation there's a lot going on right now I so he has a psych degree in his head and in order and that well part of that as he teaches meditation yeah that's his jam okay it's his main thing okay in jr. in 1975 he applied for a state license to practice clinical psychology right but he has no yeah experience or expertise or knowledge no right and now he's getting
Starting point is 00:18:49 a better degree well he then learned that he was required to have two years of experience supervised by a licensed psychologist that's gonna be tough so he got a psychologist to sponsor him and he opened an office on the Northwest Highway Wow yeah this is 70s a lot easier to get bullshit done yeah everything went his he had a vibrating chair for is this true yeah he had a vibrating chair for patients is that good for I feel like that's not good for a patient just like well I think it all comes from my mom when you actually you know like a lot of people say the first few years are just so important is there
Starting point is 00:19:25 any way to get it to a lower setting because I'm a little I'm not good with motion anyway like I think you know dad obviously left and my mom I'm gonna take it up to 10 okay oh god oh my god oh my god grab by hit me all right shut her down so during all this time Sterling was trying to get his son out of jail okay he tried embassy channels the Mexican embassy okay but no go and then he found out if nobody was hurt and no property was damaged there was no law against jailbreak in Mexico whoa yeah see you know every systems flawed but at least Mexican jails like a video game you're free to try to escape but not you
Starting point is 00:20:17 murderers you don't try to leave it's the same thing in Belgium I guess the idea is that they think that just from like a human perspective if you're locked up you will try to escape so don't punish the person for that I'm not following I think I need a vibrating chair so he starts looking for money to hire someone to break Kudra at a prison okay now Cooters lawyer had gotten him transferred closer to the border in PHS neggress but instead that was very half-ass yeah definitely not from there that was a hiccup yeah miss timed hiccup yep but instead of transferring Cooter to the main prison and PHS neggress they
Starting point is 00:21:08 transferred him to the municipal jail which is basically part police station part jail that's fun there's five cells five cells for men one for women and then a drunk tank okay all right the cells were eight feet by nine feet no windows four bunks and up to 12 prisoners in each cell Jesus so you would work your way up based on seniority to a bunk yeah I would just try to get shit faced and go to the drunk tank for a little while a little vacay I don't know where would you get the toilet turtlet what turtlet turtlet turtlet turtlet red wine turtlet what what's happening right now don't ask where the grapes come
Starting point is 00:21:49 from we quick we're turtlet turtlet turtlet not turtlet but actually turtles are really great to raise I have a turtle farm are you talking about putting booze up your ass no are you yeah well that's weird that's how I drink by the way at midnight tonight I'll be down at the ass bar yeah on seventh which is a great new bar yeah turtle another Yeager sir what's turtle turtlet turtlet like toilet but turtlet oh yeah fuck I thought you were saying turtle yeah picked up on that he's my favorite character from the HBO show so and then there were no windows
Starting point is 00:22:43 the lights were always off so the only way I could tell what time it was was by meals that were being served they never went outside they weren't allowed outside so after there's a little bit of not sure about the time but after a while maybe a year and a half cooter lost he lost about 25 pounds okay it's hard to work out in a cell with 12 dudes yeah his body's covered in boils he had an abscess tooth and then Sterling went to visit him and he was horrified cooter said he didn't think he would survive his sentence which I believe is eight years so back in Dallas Sterling put out the feelers in the underground
Starting point is 00:23:22 world dive bars drive-ins all night restaurants okay sure seems pretty undercover yeah just walking around driving's hey you won't break yeah you want break someone out of prison yeah popcorn yeah yeah are you are you finger in her roll this window up yep I'll see you later so you didn't have a lot of money to offer and anyone who tried it could easily end up in prison or dead right a lot of upside yeah Sterling interviewed a lot of it not very experienced men and then he gave an advance to a gang who used it to buy guns can an El Camino sure you gotta roll over there in style can't just be
Starting point is 00:24:21 some hacky gang and then they party until all the money was gone okay all right phase two get him out of jail right or is that sort of falling by the way well then they asked for more money and we need a more we need another car yeah we're gonna need another El Camino yeah we got it and never mind yeah another team went down and he hired more guys and they went down to the jail and then they saw all this carry and they're like no we're not doing okay so they just took the money and he's really running through this bullfrog cash yeah now Don Fielden Don Fielden Don Fielden okay he's a high school dropout who joined the
Starting point is 00:25:02 Marines and went to Vietnam okay quote they'd been telling us all along that this was a police action first night I was in Da Nang they shelled the hell out of us and I thought man I ain't never see a cop through go through this shit so he didn't think it was a police action 19 days before he's super familiar with the concept of war before the signing up I mean you know a little yeah 19 days before he was scheduled to come back to America he's put on radio watching a bunker and then he has to take a shit so he walks through the door and he's looking at the shitter which is like a two-man little hut type thing I mean I'm
Starting point is 00:25:44 not I don't want to get into it too far it's like a two-toileted hut it's a two yeah there's just well probably buckets or holes it's just so like an outhouse yep okay and so he's looking at he's thinking if he has to go so bad should he run for it and then a guy goes in and then it gets hit with a rocket yeah shrapnel hit his right shoulder and almost severed his right leg so he's he's that's the Marines for him he's kind of wrapping that up did he ever get to take the shit I think he right when the shrapnel hit him I'm imagine that hard to hard to focus on that area after such a yeah he's probably like oh that took
Starting point is 00:26:26 care of that yeah yeah business boy my problem from earlier just dwarfed so he gets better he heals in 1970 he's released from from the Marines he doesn't have a pension disability he starts drinking a lot okay he'd like to hang out with other Vietnam vets at a Dallas bar called the town pump proceed he got a job as a long-haul truck driver he did extra work as a collection man sure for a group that frontend as a nightclub janitor service I don't even understand the car he fronted what do you mean well so they pretended like they were an a nightclub janitor service but they're actually just a loan shark
Starting point is 00:27:30 collection guys okay right so they're like I'm gonna clean your toilet he's like yeah okay fine he learned to be a man of violence in the war and nothing in civilian world match the excitement that he had felt in war oh no on March 3rd 1975 he's driving on the highway guy cut him off he got so mad that he pulls out his pistol and starts shooting at the guy from his truck what did the guy from in the truck do exactly cut him off yeah alright so I get it Dallas Cowboys wide receiver golden turn are we taking right now what Dallas Cowboys wide receiver golden Richards was driving next to the truck and saw the whole thing
Starting point is 00:28:26 okay and he reported to police but then for some reason golden Richards refused to turn up to testify at the grand jury hmm I wonder what that was all about so Don walked Jesus Don was fired from his trucking job two days before Christmas well let's not just yeah I think that's I'm on the side of the trucking company on that one let's not uh your oz are way off let our let our hearts not break too much for this he separated from his wife they had two kids okay I mean you're closer but come on it's not this dude shot a man I don't know how great of a dad he is he shot a man we shot at a man well he shot at a man and then he heard
Starting point is 00:29:21 through the underground a friend of his told him that someone was looking to hire some men for a jailbreak so Don went to Sterling's office on February 16 sure do it in an office absolutely I have an appointment at the jailbreak 76 I am here for is this the jailbreak I'm auditioning to break someone out of jail that's all I know I have a 445 so he goes into the office now Sterling has a PhD diploma on the wall sure which apparently we can all do now if you want you just put it up on the wall and you have it it's from the University of Mexico uh-huh yeah yeah U of M yeah go bandidos
Starting point is 00:30:10 so Don heard a little bit about the jailbreak and then he asked Sterling to tell him how to say get your hands up and other phrases in Spanish and Sterling changed the subject well what is Sterling thinking he's getting out of no violence just looking for a real smooth move Don then realized Sterling was a con man and he did not respect Sterling at all but he needed the money and he still craved the action after Vietnam he said he would freak cooter for $5,000 and expenses well there it is you know it's gonna be stopping for lobster the whole way make it up he agreed to take all the money after the job was done
Starting point is 00:30:53 now I don't know much but I have seen forensic files you normally do a little up front and then a little after right but he's willing for but after he had been taken by the other two gangs and he doesn't want to give up any money up ahead of time okay still it's quite a job of faith yeah yeah okay so soon Don was down doing recon in Eagle Pass which is just across the border from just Negra's jail was three blocks from the toll gates in the international bridge that's not a long setting up for what it's not a long trip from the jail to the Don went and he visited Cooter hey Cooter it's me your old pal Don
Starting point is 00:31:43 well Cooter was a family name so as soon as Don called him Cooter Cooter knew what was going on he knew why he was there I mean okay sure he spoke Cooter Cooter you're here to break me out huh no I'm the new warden what happened so Don also gets a look at the jail and the jail is super far back from the street so he realizes if that's the case he'll need another man he can't do it himself okay Mike Hill oh boy oh Mike Mike is 32 son of alcoholic parents drop that a school at 13 and lived in an abandoned fire station see a Dalmatian look I got his leg going stop it Ted Mike stole a bike to get a delivery job
Starting point is 00:32:46 ended up spending a lot of time in juvenile hall through his teens okay in 1965 he was convicted of burglary but given probation and over the next ten years repeatedly arrested but never convicted always there was really an era where it was a lot more probation based as opposed to now oh there's money and putting people in prison oh Dave stop come on we're trying to have a good time here you don't need to talk about the prison industrial couple let's have a little light fun huh let's not anchor the moment down we're having a little fun here tonight come on it's a fat chew and we're gonna keep it light you
Starting point is 00:33:22 socialists over the next 10 years oh I said that so he starts buying cars wholesale who Mike does yeah Mike buys cars wholesale and then he sells them in classified ads so that's how he's making a living okay that sounds legit right yeah that's not no it's not too bad it's pretty normal and then he gets a tow truck oh okay starts running a record service okay which is one of the flat bed ones right sure yeah and seven in 1972 he discovered pot he really likes pot I really like Mike so he starts smoking a lot of pot okay sure and then he started taking advantage of the Dallas tow away ordinance now he put to get
Starting point is 00:34:15 he puts together a fleet of independent wreckers okay and they would all haul cars away from private property and then deliver them to a lot that Mike least okay give each driver 25 bucks and then when people come to get their cars he charge him 43 what what he's is he just towing for anything what is he telling not towing he's just got a big fleet of independent guys that he's paying to bring him cars oh I get you okay and then you got to come get your car okay all totally legal sure the Dallas ordinance is like that's fine yeah and then one of the drivers was out and he radioed him because he's like I want to tow this car
Starting point is 00:34:54 and these guys aren't letting me tow the car okay because the guys were undercover Dallas narc cops should have known as a police car you were trying to tow yeah so the driver the cops were like we're we're fucking watching get the fuck out here they can't tell him what's going on but like we're fucking working get out I'm working to you get out of here no we're in the middle of something out of here we're watching the club I'm watching the car sorry look we have opposed goals that's not my fault so he calls my boy you guys whisper a lot in your chest son so he calls Mike okay Mike shows up he's got a van in his van
Starting point is 00:35:38 there is a loaded derringer a loaded pistol a dagger a shotgun and two baseball bats I mean do you need two bats at this point like what are you what are you expecting to go through all right the guns out ammo give me the bats not the swords the bats it'll be fun so that doesn't go well he gets arrested sure and the cops are pissed cuz he blew their stake out sure and then a little while later another driver towed the mayor's car oh dear oh boy mayors don't like that no it was a temporary mayor Adeline Harrison well she was like filling in she was filling in for a day he died or didn't stop her
Starting point is 00:36:30 whatever I don't know I got tired I don't know what happened no no no you just do a mayor every couple weeks the first first it's like tag but with mayors yeah yeah so she proposes a new tow weigh-in ordinance after they towed her car so his business is over okay wow so then things fall apart and he's living in his Chevy step van which is painted reflective silver cool cool cool cool silver reflective van yeah yeah no yeah just like a ball of light just going along it's a UFO but it's on the road I can't explain it so Mike is a good-looking dude a little scary his nose is very enlarged from having been
Starting point is 00:37:15 broken so many times and you could refer to him as a good-looking dude yeah okay it's very likable everyone likes Mike women are super into him he's divorced with two kids he's a he's a tough good old Texas boys how he's described okay a friend asked him if he wanted to go to Mexico and told him about the job so you make a it to him it seemed like a movie idea that's what you know you pull the plug it sounds like a great movie plot that I'd watch not live all right but he needed money sure so I met Don at a Denny's mm-hmm as one does and at this point Don could not find anybody to do
Starting point is 00:37:58 this with him for $2,500 okay and he's desperate for a partner that's how much that I tell you how much they're getting paid 2,500 he was getting paid I thought he was getting 5,000 right and they're splitting right okay so he's desperate so Don drove at the Denny's he he took out napkins and drew out the plans how many times how used to Denny like like Denny's weight staff must be so used to people plotting bank jobs and boots they're like oh that's good I think you guys are gonna get away with that I'll be right back with y'all's waffles okay thank you guys more coffee guys oh that's great look at you guys with those
Starting point is 00:38:36 big old guns I think you're gonna win over this crowd oh don't flip it over I don't mind I please let me I've seen them all which one you hitting oh US Bank they got a lot of money in that vault that's gonna be a good haul for y'all be right back with y'all's cookies during while he was explaining how they would do the jailbreak Don kept saying quote it's not against the law as long as you don't hurt anybody I mean I mean this really is a reality show concept he told Mike breaking out in Mexico is not against the law and when they were done Mike looked at Don and said quote what's wrong with tonight oh hey easy there
Starting point is 00:39:22 pal I'm crazy but what crazy follow-up let's do it now well they agree to leave the next day okay let's get moving so Don brings a sought-off shotgun and Mike his 12 gauge pump sure as they drove south they started getting on each other's nerves couple alphas Mike constantly drank coffee so they kept having to stop for coffee just get to next time I don't like it because then one gets cold then get a bigger one I don't want a bigger one because then it gets cold before I'm done with it can I get another small coffee please as you're leaving the one place I'm almost out all right you know what now Don wants to talk about the
Starting point is 00:40:21 jailbreak the whole time but Mike kept wanting to talk about getting laid in Mexico and think of how much pussy we're gonna get when we get him out yeah we're going on there don't even do it okay what no we're gonna go Rob we don't have to do it I need a coffee we're gonna break him out of the prostitute okay we're gonna break him out of the prison we're gonna come home I got a different plan what yeah I've been working on a different angle no we're gonna go get laid a bunch and then get some small coffees and then we're gonna watch a couple movies at the hotel then we'll see how we feel probably get coffee then
Starting point is 00:40:59 maybe we go back have more sex hell of a guy trip no yeah brocode and then at some point Mike asked Don how much money they had $100 to Mike that did not dumber jailbreak to Mike that did not sound like the big deal jailbreak he been told it was yeah and it sounded like Don wanted to drive right down and do it immediately and Mike thought quote I thought we were just going down there and taking a look at it so they get to Eagle Pass they check in a hotel like you said the next morning March 1st they crossed the border and when Mike saw the jail he got a very bad feeling uh-huh it was well guarded and very far
Starting point is 00:41:52 back from the street well I mean I would think if you make the deal that if you haven't hurt anyone that you can escape that they're gonna probably guard it pretty well you would think but yeah I just kind of a door there's gonna be a door yeah well not an escape door no like a door to the front of the jail well yeah there's a door to the front of the jail I agree on a safe page pull over on coffee so they go back to the ego pass hotel room to discuss the plans and Don said they should use explosives or a fire to distract the cops okay right but every time he started getting deep into the plan Mike would roll a joint and
Starting point is 00:42:32 smoke it I'm done I've been done for 12 minutes you look at the TV it's Mexican shit's good stop smoking joys you idiot fuck what are we doing did breaking cooter god damn it my god are my eyes red yes you're all red oh you're you think they got Mexican cartoons on down here on all right you know what you need to focus brother like a like a Scooby-Doo this speaks Mexican that's what I'm thinking about I don't have a great feeling talking to a stoneman who wants to pull Scooby-Doo routes hope they don't have scrappy do down here cuz never liked that guy I know the feeling
Starting point is 00:43:39 so the next day what do you say so the day of it they go to sleep the next day they watch the jail from a tamale stand a little bit up the street do you want tamales no no no you're holding up the line shut up just taking a little we're taking in the view another water and small coffee two coffees ten minutes apart so he to Mike it it looks even worse during the day it's a one-way street the road is narrow and there's cops standing out front and then he asked he has to talk to Sterling so Mike they go back to the tell Mike puts him on the phone a Don puts him on the phone with Sterling okay Mike says quote he
Starting point is 00:44:37 sounded real positive about not sending anybody any money okay and Don wants to do the raid now because they didn't have much money left to keep paying for the hotel the priorities are out of whack we're not gonna get paid well then we should do it now let's move we're almost out of money so Mike finally agreed okay and at midnight they headed into Mexico as they drove down the street a peddler's negros cop pulled him over Don said quote we're gonna have to take him out okay let's all cool out a little bit huh and Mike was like just let me see what he wants before we start killing him no you idiot that's his game that's
Starting point is 00:45:27 how they get you so he got out of the car and he looked at the cop and he said which way to Boys Town and the cop said follow me and they followed him and he drove them to a brothel okay as they drove they got far enough behind the cop to throw their guns in a bush on the side of the street this so this cop was pretty much this cop is a dream situation yeah Mike only had 20 bucks on him but he he used it that night to buy sex workers drinks sure sure as one does spend it on a round I think they like me you idiot we're out of money by the way but they're all super cool like so relatable in the morning Mike said he
Starting point is 00:46:16 wanted to visit Cooter and scope out the jail sure so inside he's Mike is freaked out the smell is horrifying later he would describe the look on the prisoners faces as quote have you ever seen a drowning dog so it is he's been in jails and he's like this is the worst fucking thing I have ever seen in my life my god that drowned dog things really gonna stick with me yeah what does a drowning dog look like I don't want to get into this go watch Milo and Otis I didn't do it I just watched it as a kid and was like boy what a resilient group I can't believe they went over two
Starting point is 00:47:10 different waterfalls and survived DVD commentary what's that oh god no I don't know what's happening just go check out the cast and Milo and Otis you're gonna see a number of cats names shit they don't take by the way kittens don't take direction very well turns out we had a cat on Marin five thousand a day that's some sweet cheddar you can train a cat if you can make a fortune but no one can train a cat I actually got I got one who will eat for food yeah you got one that'll eat its own paw if it hasn't been fed in an hour so inaccurate or sorry flipper rude rude rude you're a rude man so after they go to the jail and he
Starting point is 00:48:21 eats cooter and he's freaked out they go back to the motel I got a good feeling and Mike's like look we need a third guy to watch for the walkie-talkie so they're gonna split the money they're not getting three ways to do this well it's too far back they need someone to watch Don is wants to do it now he's tired of the bullshit they start fucking screaming at each other hopefully in private because if you get specific that's a tell and then they get in the car and they go back to get the guns which they threw in the bushes sure on the street Mike's talking super fast because he's totally freaked out one he's
Starting point is 00:48:58 had a lot of coffee he's had a lot of coffee they've been hanging around the jail for three days the Mexicans cop had to know what they were up to they're up to something they didn't it turns out they didn't have enough gas to get back to Dallas so Mike said I don't want to do it tonight my car is not right and Don is fucking disgusted but Mike had a good point about the gas money yeah because once they break the guys out what are they gonna do what are they gonna do all right wheelbarrows and Don knew from war everyone needed to be focused and confident and Mike's karma comment meant to Don that he could get them
Starting point is 00:49:33 both killed okay there's what they're saying and then there's what they're hearing two strangers constantly evaluating the other in their head yeah I agree this guy's a fucking idiot this guy's gonna get us killed well it's off because his karma ain't right I want another coffee Don had a friend wire them 50 bucks to buy gas money to drive back to there we go okay so finally the pot of gold yeah so back in Dallas Mike wants to meet Sterling so they go to Sterling's office he asked about the money and Sterling shows him a photo copy of a $5,000 check look at that huh that's almost cashable so for those of
Starting point is 00:50:19 you out there who don't think I'm gonna ride a check for five well I have where it is you don't know proof what I make this if I didn't write one look how easy I wrote that right there that's a check but somewhere not here but there's a picture of it you're basically looking at gold okay or a picture of gold all right also I got you boys a nice little bullfrog farm I think you're gonna want to retire to it's nice little area they got self-eaters we got a tree dilla so all you need is maggots that's all you need so he still refused to advance any money but Mike is still in yeah well he saw a photocopy of a check I mean
Starting point is 00:51:00 obviously like things are on the up and up and happening he also noticed the the diploma uh-huh so for the third man Mike approaches Billy Blackwell okay Billy's an 18 year old kid who used to work for him at the lot oh hey Mike he could not read or write hey Mike and now he was mowing lawns for a living hey look all this grass mark but Mike Hill was Billy's hero so he was super loyal to Mike I'll take a small coffee too can't believe how much we both love coffee Mike he says stick with me and we'll make a fortune let's rob a bank together yeah you might complete me Mike
Starting point is 00:51:57 I'll kill myself for you no that's fine we're good sorry that's not a thing we need well let's get coffees again Billy had shoulder length brown hair he told Billy they were going to repossess a truck in Mexico that was the job boy that sounds pretty straightforward Mike let's go Billy agreed to do it for 500 bucks sure now Don is supposed to be raising money but he can't raise any from anybody so Mike steps in after seeing the prisoners he felt an obligation to get them out of the hellhole so he's got like an emotional attachment now here we go all right particularly yeah particularly
Starting point is 00:52:39 cooter he feels like he's a cooter empath yeah who isn't so Mike approached gotta be so Mike approaches a guy who he's called he's called a creditor but it's like he's it's not a bank but it's an official business so he approaches a guy who loans money uh-huh well we have those yeah it's just a weird thing yeah it's legit right okay so Mike told them that he was going to repossess a tractor trailer in Mexico that was worth ten grand and he just needed a thousand okay so the creditors not buying it totally but he still loaned Mike the thousand dollars okay so using the silver van as collateral oh the should the reflective
Starting point is 00:53:31 van yeah the mayor he had his eye on that yeah he's like wow wow as long as I get that reflective van there he looks like a superhero drives that who wouldn't want that so we're got to dawn that another American in the prison was also gonna pay five grand if they broke him out okay so now they are actually looking at ten grand grand right okay so dawn just wanted to free the two but then when Mike heard that Mike said they should free all the prisoners and then afterwards ask them all for five grand absolutely I mean absolutely yeah I think what you do is once you get
Starting point is 00:54:15 everyone out yeah sure they might scatter but honor system guys honor yeah these are prisoners they know the code yeah we're expected 5k each okay when we get everyone out so he adds it up and with all the Americans in there he's like this could be 50 grand yeah but it's also like not at all the deal is at all one of the guys you're bringing a lot things you're gonna get a tractor or you're gonna get like a car one of the guys is showing you a photocopy of a check yeah yeah no Charlie and your Charlie's angels Charlie's showing you the check that is super old they remade it yeah I guess yeah all right so Mike
Starting point is 00:54:55 is now super and now he's totally charged up about the idea 50 fucking grand he needs to put the coffee down switch to decaf it sounds like he gets walkie talkies he gets gloves and blue ski masks with red inserts mm-hmm so his idea behind that is shot very ready we're wrestlers so he figures when they come in wearing that the cops never see that so they'll be so freaked out that they won't do anything now when this idea is pitched what are the others feeling they're like absolutely they will be shot that makes sense it's like putting a smoke bomb on your head there's no way they'll have any idea what's going on
Starting point is 00:55:42 here spider-man but a black spider-man with red eyes all right guys come on evil spider-men are here let him go through big fan of you guys that's what you are on March Wednesday I'm sorry on Wednesday March 10th oh you're going European for a second yeah I flipped it Wednesday March 10th it's on is it it's on technically it's on okay Mike is waiting okay Don picks up Billy they drive over to Mike Mike's sitting there Billy at this point is still thinking they're repossessing a vehicle or something yes right okay now at some point I would think that you're gonna have to let him in on the little wrinkle
Starting point is 00:56:21 that he's been left out on absolutely sure so Mike smoking a joint just waiting for them to pull up sure get nice and fucking baked before this certainly I mean if I'm saying this is not something you get high for you do not get high for it it's stoned before this I'll enjoy it more no Mike Judy talking about so the car pulls up and there's a guy in the back he's got short sandy razor cut hair who's he shaggy's in the van so zoinks and then he realizes that Billy's wearing a wig oh Billy who thinks they're just repossessing a vehicle is the only one in disguise so everyone else
Starting point is 00:57:19 remember they're still in Dallas like they have a long way to go he could put on them a wig way down south yeah but then you're not gonna be as deep in character you want to get it early holy shit boy what do you think he's gonna wear when he hears we're going to a Mexican jail so like you said Billy still thinks they're repossessing a truck so as they drive Mike tells Billy it's a jailbreak how do you get into that hey Bill love the hairdo listen I'm thinking I'm recollecting back to our conversation I'm thinking I said a couple things off now instead of repossess we're breaking uh-huh and instead of
Starting point is 00:58:05 breaking into the car no no we're breaking out of somewhere that we're gonna break into what and instead a car it's jail so yeah that's it yeah I shouldn't have said so because everything's pretty much settled and established love your little bot you look like a beetle back there look at you little beetle mania action going back there you little bopper that's right yeah he says quote Billy what it boils down to is we're going to war down there okay Mike you are my best friend Billy took this literally and thought they were actually going to war hold on let me get my beret and sunglasses
Starting point is 00:58:53 Billy quote Mike don't you think I need a gun now you got away that's the hair of guns Mike told him the jailbreak was being done on behalf of the US government so honesty is an issue in their relationship well no because it turns out Don had told Mike they were working for the state department and the jailbreak was sanctioned by the US government so Don's hearing this like oh boy I'm king of shit look at my lies go into him we are on a mission from the government Billy now Don brought a bottle of scotch for the drive now we're gonna need to get real ripped up before this none of your weed smoke and we need
Starting point is 00:59:48 to focus let's have a third of whiskey each what do you say huh everyone say to a leader each yeah that's right Billy hasn't had any yet which is troubling the whole time they drove Mike and Billy past joints this is like a pretty good time I mean certainly you know it's definitely like a good angle if you're gonna go maybe watch a football game but probably not if you're gonna go into a Mexican jail to have you know a few pops in you nine J's deep probably not the best headspace to be floating around in right now so the tension cornbread looks good let's go god damn it let's go so the tension
Starting point is 01:00:42 builds in the car and finally Don says why don't you guys quit smoking and Mike responds quote well hell you're drinking but I just keep going I'll send McConaughey's in the car yeah yeah yeah yeah he's driving a Lincoln with that whiskey that he promotes I don't know you need to do is get Lincoln town car I'll watch the moon out there kissing the clouds they move by and I'm gonna roll out so they get to Eagle Pass they check into the motel they wait until the TV back then TV's turned off TV turns off remember TV would there weren't TV didn't go on all night so it would stop at you were at times no
Starting point is 01:01:30 able to watch TV yeah they wouldn't turn off but the everything would stop every channel would it would play it would play the Star Spangled Banner and then there'd be a flag and then and then it would go off for the night it would just be snow and then it would pick up again at 6 or 7 a.m. boy I am glad we got out of that fuck that's what the 70s were yeah and now you're like my Netflix won't load this is hell so I can't shake Facebook on a flight oh my god literal hell so that means it's 2 a.m. so they give Billy walkie-talkie and they have him walk across the bridge and he's gonna go watch the jail and then
Starting point is 01:02:19 and radio them sure so they then they drive around and they stop and they're waiting waiting across the border from to to walkie over and then two cops pull up mm-hmm and ask them what they're doing hmm my quote how do you get to Boys Town Jesus Christ I think this is just a sex worker ruse the cops laugh and gave them directions oh great boy they're unable to get Billy on the walkie-talkie they just keep trying and nothing's happening so Mike says quote man they must have got Billy let's go where to the jailbreak without him yeah they got him let's go get it what about plans are they not viable so they
Starting point is 01:03:09 cross the border and as they approach the jail Billy said over the walkie quote six cops just left there shouldn't be but three in there now I like how he's getting a little Shakespearean now there shouldn't be but three inside there now I've got the wig I'll play the pot it looks like all the hubbub was much ado about nothing ah sweet Benvolio God Benvolio's hither so Don turns and they get lost it's just a maze of one-way streets so they're just driving now they're just driving around trying to figure out where they are because back then there's no there's no fucking GPS so you don't need to tell us the TV shut
Starting point is 01:03:58 off that's already crazy enough so then a car Mexican teenagers pull up beside them and Mike yells Pinochet Pinochet that doesn't mean anything what does it mean pussy okay so sir we don't need the sign language as well yeah yeah we're good without the some means pussy pussy that's what he just yelled okay so the kids take him to the police station that's where pussies were so they park outside all right a little bit down the block here we are at Boys Town a lot of these girls look like cuffs I'm a fuck that one I had my on her too she's hairy yeah and armed yeah so Don looks at Mike and says quote if you have any
Starting point is 01:05:08 thoughts if your karma is not right but then Mike's fucking already got the ski mask on Mike is ready to go so they put on the mic but Don puts on his ski mask they start walking across the street they got their guns in their hands and they approach the jail door and Don whips it open that's not jail doors are supposed to work well you can just walk in because it's also a police station so they walk they walk through the the lot and then they get to the jail door and they potentially a little early with the masks no well yeah I would have put the mask on right outside the door but they put them on across the street across
Starting point is 01:05:44 the lot right and then they and they open the hey look criminals so Don whips the fucking door open Don I've been studying Spanish phrases just for this occasion and they yelled Palma was on there correct which translates very crudely if at all to span come on span SPAN come on if if you could translate it it's really gibberish he wanted to yell get your hands up right but instead everyone was like he's trying to move time now as they went through the door Mike was thinking about the end of the movie butch Cassidy and the Sundance kid well Mike get in a little more positive of a
Starting point is 01:06:40 headspace oh kid in the ward no kill you turns out Billy was wrong there's not three guards right he can't read her right so he's there's five guards and five cops inside mm-hmm like I said three and there's also a stenographer who's there they're they're interviewing a young lady but the interview is pretty easy for a stenographer yeah so they're interrogating a lady the stenographer falls off his chair what everybody frees everybody freezes like what in the fuck is happening and they all look at each other for a second and they stare at these guys in ski masks and then all the cops just start fucking scattering
Starting point is 01:07:33 interesting and Daniel so the stenographer is the brave one and Daniels freeze and then he hits one with a shotgun the butt of the shotgun Mike leaps over the counter two cops pull their pistols and Don points a shotgun at him and then they drop their pistols Jesus my and then he's the cops potentially were less trained than our group yes well the deal was they're actually just a bunch of guys making minimum wage and they don't give a shit at the end of the day right so so Mike sees a cop reaching for an M1 rifle that's leaning up against the wall points gutted him he sees something behind
Starting point is 01:08:20 him it's another one he spins around almost shoots that guy but doesn't but then all the cops are just like okay and then they've taken over the jail please take all the span you need give him all the span I don't know either yeah Palmo yeah Palmo don't say anything weird these guys are fucking idiots so Don goes back to the cells he brought bolt cutters with him he breaks he snaps the chain on the door back to the cells he goes back there there's a guard and a Mexican prisoner outside the cells in the corridor Don moves over to Cooter's cell and he goes to use the bolt cutters on that chain and the bolt cutters just
Starting point is 01:09:20 snap oh shit so the prisoners all start yelling y'all they y'all they which means keys and Don thought they were saying yobby and he's like I don't know what you guys are talking about they're like yeah he's saying all right and then the Mexican prisoner who's outside the cells hits the guard with a chain that he had broken off yeah they and he tells him to go get the keys so that guard gets the keys and opens up the cell okay so all the guys come out well wait first you've got to be like all right before you get out you each oh was $5,000 I know we're all in a rush right now we're all gonna say whatever we want to
Starting point is 01:10:06 get out of here I'm talking on our system boys let's get some IOUs written right now on legally binding I use so they heard the cops into another cell Mike gives the M1 rifle to Cooter the only prisoner who wouldn't leave Cooter cell this is a fantastic story I reckon I should finish my sentence no it's a Frenchman oh yes it is have you ever heard of a little something called principles that do not run a good luck on the outside I plan on saving my pen it's like a gentleman can I address you in some red one from the turd it's our do you say turtle you stupid American swine I'll go but on five conditions I
Starting point is 01:11:26 require an easel and some paints then says upcoming did you a nasal an easel yes I stand for my canvas I'm a painter where I come from I grew up near the river sand a poor boy who's interested only one mine hey man otherwise I got a little bit older at the same time it's yes sorry I was in the middle of a you were you guys like frogs right are you kidding me you're talking about one of the greatest delicacies we have in my entire country if somebody will have a way to give me access to frogs that I don't even want to sit here I'll pine all night for saying like maybe we could help each
Starting point is 01:12:17 other out right here you like a nice maggot stuff bullfrog yes absolutely do yes yes all right so there's 20 now they've gotten the women out there's 24 inmates in the corridor the French guys in the cell just chilling yeah okay no but the Mexican the Mexican guy who hit the guard with the chain he asked Mike for a gun he's like hey man can I have a gun huh so Mike sees the guy has blood on his head and he goes yeah okay and he gives him a cops pistol and then the Mexican runs over and kicks in a door and behind the door are two federales who had been interrogating his wife oh shit so the Mexican just starts beating
Starting point is 01:13:09 the shit out of the cops hey man hey hey hey with the gun hey man pistol whipping the gun hey and Mike looks at Cooter and he says who's that guy and Cooter goes ah he's all right he doesn't seem all right he's fine he's kind of the class clown I'll tell you he was weird is that French guy pending for my thoughts I want to be a clown so Billy radios quote Mike you got to Mike you got to coming through the front door also um where's that car shouldn't we be getting it out of here by now also I don't know what four is so Mike runs behind the counter and crouches with his gun out and he waits and he
Starting point is 01:14:02 waits no one's coming through the door so finally he radios Billy and he goes where are they and Billy says say I don't know man they left hey so uh let's use these a lot kind of keep each other up on what's going on you know what I mean kind of update each other do you know Sam like we have these sorry I was looking at my wig like I look like that guy from Simon and Simon you know what I mean I the TV shuts off around two so yeah it's not on yeah nevermind okay also that starts in the 80s should I should done you know what let's not use them too much let's use them like the right amount I look like the guy from you know
Starting point is 01:15:04 let's shut them down for a minute and just let's take a minute absolutely don't use them for a while oh mash yeah okay so don't press your button anymore to talk for a little while unless it's about guards on the family seriously take your finger off the button because I don't think you can hear what I'm saying while your fingers on the button I think you because I could just still hear the ambient noise around you which means these are rendered useless yeah love boat exciting and new come aboard I'm expecting you the love how's the breaking going not good they can hear someone singing the fucking love boat so
Starting point is 01:15:54 that's me I love that show people fall in love show about a sailor banging a boat simpler times so they put they put all the cops in the cell but they can't get the deadbolt to slide closed so how do we do it so then everyone goes to the front door Mike Cooter and Don and the other and the other America is paying five grand or up front Don looks at all the other American prisoners and tells them to turn right when they hit the sidewalk and then make another right at the corner and then quote when you hit the water you know you're at the river if you hit the tamale stand you've gone too far but if you hit the brothel just
Starting point is 01:16:41 hang it right if you see any cops ask him where Boys Town is 20 $20 all not conversation with the lady who otherwise would have sex with you and you can go go in there real quick buy them all a drink spend all your money come out the brothels are supposed to work so so he opens up the doors and they're willing to start fucking running sure so five men jumped into Don's Ford Mike Cooter Billy Don and the other American okay and they take off they've been in Mexico for eight minutes I mean we've talked about what they did longer than what they did eight minutes now my good Mike had taken speed right before they
Starting point is 01:17:38 crossed the board so it's just starting to kick in good God I actually get that one that what I get the whiskey the weed no the speed sure yeah so they get to the Mexican toll booth on the side of the bridge which it just sounds like it's a dude and a fucking thing that comes down sure that's it they're waiting because he's having a chat with a guy in the car in front of them and they're all fucking panicking uh-huh then they pull up and Mike gives him a quarter and the tolls only 12 cents and they fucking speed off oh as they cross the international bridge Cooter starts throwing all of the evidence they had
Starting point is 01:18:29 out of the car guns ski masks some of it's landing on the bridge behind them is that is that is that wise to throw evidence near I would on a bridge I don't think it's a great idea yeah it's not a lot of communication and yet somehow it's still working so they get to us customs it's just an old man at a booth and he says he looks at them all and he says are y'all American citizens yeah yeah yeah yeah did you bring anything back from Mexico nope don't all right have a nice night even and they drive and they drive and they and they just keep driving they head for Dallas hold on one minute is that John Landon back
Starting point is 01:19:19 there that further oh they got a mop top and they got a mop top I'm Fran Tarkington okay y'all free to go some some people some people so reporter reporter Robert Montemayor worked at the Dallas Times Herald and he found out an escapee had been arrested in Eagle Rock and released okay Americans arrested him they let him go so Robert drives down there and he talks to him and agrees to give the guy a ride to Dallas because apparently federales are all over Eagle Eagle past looking for the escapees okay puts him in his car drives him up he's like you owe me one and then that escapee got Robert's phone
Starting point is 01:20:05 number into Cooter's hand okay he's like you owe me one so he right all right here's one of the guys the main guys so Cooter is now at the Dallas roadway in any hot spot and he calls Robert okay and Cooter says to Robert that the jail breakers are with him right now but he's gonna go turn himself into the US law enforcement and that he called Robert back in three or four days when he got out and then he hangs up so a very happy sterling right then arrives at the hotel and he is so fucking excited he tells everyone there's probably movie money in this story look at this check that I photocopied can you imagine if
Starting point is 01:20:45 that were real it's a million dollars that's Hollywood money photocopied obviously and then he said one of his patients is writing up an outline right now my patience your psychiatrist well no but I have patience and a vibrating chair chair vibrates Cooter then said he was gonna give some info to a reporter and sterling fucking flips out he can't believe what he's hearing he's like you're still on probation from the Arizona bust he can't be talking to fucking reporters so he doesn't and Billy gets the 500 Billy goes back to Mohan Laws Mike Mike takes his portion of money tricks out his van carpeting the
Starting point is 01:21:34 first thing you do is get some carpet in there Naga hide upholstery with the Lone Star flag carved in he needed money right yeah for his van I guess and then he had a big American flag put on the back okay yeah so that's he got what he needed with the money sure but now Don is not too keen on sterling dealing with the movie rights movie right like what are you just fucking walk away from the table so Don had his lawyer in Dallas look into it my lawyer by the way he's not a lawyer he's just the man who put a degree on a wall has a vibrating chair though so you know he's real a payment photocopies yeah meanwhile Cooter has
Starting point is 01:22:30 decided that since he served 23 months in Mexico the feds would totally agree that was punishment enough he think and wipe off his American sentence and this is all just in his head yeah right so he turns himself into the marshals thinking he's gonna be out in a couple of days and he's pretty confident and then they just arrest him and charge him with a parole violation and put him in prison hey but hasn't another jail hasn't a man I did all my time in another jail you guys are real jerk-offs man I'm sending him to a prison in Oklahoma and when he's being transferred between prisons he explains to us Marshall that he's
Starting point is 01:23:09 probably gonna direct the movie I'm on the shortlist so the reporter Robert found out who Cooter was and he calls Cooter in prison and Cooter tells him what happened and then said talk to my dad Sterling the executive producer yeah did you know dizzy Sterling he calls up Sterling and Sterling denies he knew anything about the jailbreak but then he keeps agreeing to interviews so he's like I don't know anything about it but if you want to keep coming by and talking about it that's fine Sterling quote I'm smiling you Robert you'll never know if any this is true I feel like it is I'm like 99 percent it is so then Robert
Starting point is 01:23:54 noticed that Sterling's diploma for the University of Mexico is written in English what's it gonna take for you to not notice this how about a photocopy of twenty five thousand dollars it's also on the back of a Denny's maze yeah I understand I understand so Sterling breaks down all the money paid pointed that out he was like because they were you're very smart sit in this chair like a wizard yeah so he breaks down slowly how each portion how he paid out all the money to free Cooter not take long and Robert adds it up and he says it cost 70 grand to get Cooter out of jail and Robert on the spot adds it up and he's
Starting point is 01:24:52 like that's 40 grand where did you what college did you pretend to go to so he thinks Sterling's kind of full of shit now another reporter from the Times Harold is also working on the jailbreak story and he's about to print it what he knows and then Don's lawyer finds that out and tells Don it's time to start talking because when the story was printed it's gonna be on the front page right it comes out front page of the Sunday paper big picture of Don Mike looks at it and he cannot fucking believe what he's seeing headline Dallas man executed jail breakout Don was described as quote a former Marine turned
Starting point is 01:25:38 soldier of fortune and in the story he called Mike a backup man and Billy a quote West Dallas punk do not do not tell me that Billy's gonna get or that Mike is gonna get rubbed by the idea that he's not included enough as a lead character in this fucking article because that would be crazy Gareth he's gonna get upset that he's not one of the lead characters in Don story why would you want to be like you're like look at this they barely even mentioned me awful Mike completely blindsided did not like this at all the next night Mike appeared on Channel 4 evening news wearing a ski mask and
Starting point is 01:26:30 holding a shotgun no no what about this seem like a movie to you he books himself on the news in a mask with a gun he goes through the whole story what is he doing how he took over the guards and his role in the jailbrank and he's getting his ski mask with a shotgun my name is Mike no it's I've been trying to find the footage it's got to be out there I really need to find it can you imagine oh there's just a lot that's been said about me in the press that is not true I mean there are there are description descriptions of in the paper and they're just like a paragraph like like that's all like not like what
Starting point is 01:27:26 the fuck is happening but just like yeah he wore a ski mask in the parents on Channel 4 right before weather after sports so now Sterling sees this or Sterling is now implicated he's been implicated by Don he's been implicated by Mike but he denies he knows anything about it sure so Don's lawyer in the next day says he's willing to take a lie detector test to prove that he was the guy running everything Don's willing to not Don's lawyer so I know Don right Don is lawyers like I'm willing to take a lie detector think you know everything's on the up and up I was not there I just met him
Starting point is 01:28:08 right so Don is willing to take a lie detector test and that Don had done it for quote money and adventure he also said after he said that to the press he said by the way I'm representing Don for the book and movie rights this I mean the eye to Hollywood is a little troubling now Sterling denied have anything to do with it but I will be the producer and the caterer he acknowledged his son was one of the men who escaped okay and he said he had not met Don until after the jailbreak okay and then the next day oh god Sterling spoke to the AP and said he did hire Don and he was behind the whole thing what is
Starting point is 01:28:50 happening he wants the movie money what pull at like at what cost quote he said he'd do the job and I said fine I didn't know the man asked why he had lied the day before Sterling said quote okay I told you lie I was trying to get away from the telephone for a while you could have just hung it up you know how they work right you got a lot before you hang up where I come from at some point I'm just expecting to see the French guys get the movie rights that's right it's called to me in a cell yeah so that's his excuse for lying about the funny not fun in the operation so all right you got me want to see a scar so so
Starting point is 01:29:41 don't so it looks like Don's getting in front of the story to try to get the movie money that it doesn't seem real and Mike is on the news in a ski mask so Sterling does all the interviews and he does an interview with Robert and two television reporters now for some reason all of these interviews and press it starts to concern customs officials in the US of really interesting on what grounds I don't know all the illegality and so they start looking for Don and Don and his lawyer come up with a plan don's lawyer will take a lie detector they're gonna cooperate we're gonna get the best plea deal he can get and then
Starting point is 01:30:22 sell the story to Hollywood so he turns himself in uh-huh he's charged with illegal exportation of the shotgun he's released on bail okay plans working sure sure it is then Mike gets arrested on the same charge goes through the process just without the deal the Donna cut for himself and then the next week Don Mike Sterling and Cooter are brought before the federal grand jury in San Antonio okay the justices are here this evening now the jailbreak is now becoming a major international incident American prisoners in Mexico are all being transferred away from the border security is being tightened in all the
Starting point is 01:31:09 prisons Mike sorry Mexico is furious with Mike and Don because they're being held as heroes in the Texas press right and they want them extradited but they can't have them extradited because they haven't been convicted of a crime right Secretary of State oh boy Henry the war criminal Kissinger what did I do what did I ever do that we should we should bomb all of Mexico he meets with the Mexican president and they discuss a possible US Mexico prisoner exchange what in June President Ford signs a bill written by Congress to commit the force and authority to the presidency to the investigation of American prisoner abuse
Starting point is 01:31:57 in Mexico wow and Ford says he's gonna personally negotiate with the Mexican president oh my god now Mike Hill can't believe what's happening yeah yeah right wait why but worst of all he's still completely fucking broke and now in worse trouble that he's ever been in his life whoa whoa whoa whoa someone's forgetting about the carpeting and he's got some sweet Naga yeah he's got a pretty cool interior on that shiny van and then Don tells Mike that he cut a deal and it's every man for himself cool good to catch up with you thanks for calling Mike's favorite movie was the getaway and this seemed really familiar
Starting point is 01:32:43 to him so Mike's lawyer told him he had to keep his mouth shut he's like don't fucking talk but everyone else was talking so he decided to fire his lawyer yeah I'm just gonna do two local news outlets and then shut up he's sure Don and Sterling are getting movie money and cutting him out it's movie money yeah you know so he'll then agree you just wrote the movie so Mike he'll agrees to do an interview with Dan rather on 60 minutes oh no what Jesus but he wants to do the interview in Dallas and 60 minutes refuses they say they want him to go to Eagle Pass and do the interview so behind him will
Starting point is 01:33:32 be Piedras Negres no no no no no no and he'll and then that's where he'll be interviewed so he agrees no no what are you doing what are you doing what but then for some reason he doesn't come across confident in the interview he appears super nervous what do you think that's due to what is happening too much speed and then after the 60 minutes Mike holds a press conference good keep going well the press of Mexico he said quote I'm gonna stay on this side one way or the other they're gonna have to start a war to get me back over there Mike said he did not regret the raid but also he would not do another one has a
Starting point is 01:34:20 hint of regret to it I'm all raided out you know what I mean like one raids enough yeah and he said Don story was bullshit quote he's lying a whole lot I financed it he didn't lead it I did but he talked first I just want the truth to get out if there's any credit do I deserve as much as him we're not heroes that's called blame we're not heroes there's a there was a job to be done we did it what I'm not a fan of PR people but they need to step in at some point this is a national emergency he'll said he loaned on 2200 and only got 2200 back so what you saying that's all he got paid from the jailbreak oh he
Starting point is 01:35:11 just got reimbursed he also said they had learned Spanish phrases but when they ran into the jail they told the prisoners to place their hands together instead of racing them up place your heads together and give us all your span he would not tell the press the third man's name okay after Mike hitchhiked to his arraignment in Del Rio and pled not guilty because he no longer had his van which had been used for collateral and taken man that's a real bummer that's a tough toe that night Mike so is there a moral and maybe if you get a little bit of money just maybe don't put it into felting the answer here inside of
Starting point is 01:35:59 your car I don't think there's any morals in this at all okay that night he sat down with Texas Monthly Writer Jan Reed and said if he had planned the operation it would have been different yeah sure absolutely quote namely I wouldn't have used chubby don oh Jesus he also said he wasn't motivated by money I don't know why I did it but in the end I don't think the money had anything to do with all say this if I ran for president I know 17 people who'd vote for me well that's that's enough that's enough now with all the international pressure new indictments came Don and Hill were named on four sterling three
Starting point is 01:36:47 billion two Don cop to plea Mike had arrived looking at two years max which is what he thought and then when he gets to court and here's all the new indictments he's now looking at 22 years hmm that's gonna delay production dramatically Mike also held on to the idea that the jailbreak was not illegal sure well it's time to sort of you're letting that go a little bit at this point you're in a court of law quote we don't have the right to go over there and kill anybody I'd feel the same way if they'd come over here and done something like that if they killed anybody but it was a peaceful kind of deal yeah and the Mexicans
Starting point is 01:37:26 don't have any right to be mad because nobody got hurt thank you ought to be thankful for what they got that's the main mistake people make you they never thankful for what they got one thank you they don't think about how bad it could have been about some manners yeah damn pass the gratitude every once in a while will you by the way your honor none of this is illegal oh wow oh wow oh so other other oh wow oh so they're like bringing the guns and all that's it that is it okay all right oh attempted that we did absolutely that we did do shit yeah shit I'm glad we did this I think I know in future what to do what not to do and
Starting point is 01:38:14 yeah I think a slap on the wrist is the best way to solve this one yeah yeah slapper so they still don't have Billy so Mike delivers Billy to the US muscles he's like you got to go turn yourself in all we did was try to take a car he's still got the wig on yeah your honor I'm terribly sorry we all drove in a reflective van a reflective van a reflective van we all drove in a reflective van a reflective van a reflective van we're the cheetahs so Mike Mike is starting to think he's gonna spend a lot of time in prison sure can't focus on work he's on a super hard time whatever his job was sure yeah
Starting point is 01:39:24 whatever it is for sure now Don had a new look after his plea he had a new suit his hair style differently his lawyer tried to build him up as a larger than life character quote a patriotic veteran who except for one wild act of valor had a clean criminal record yeah Don is lawyer met with a PR executive in Austin told him the story the PR executive sat said it sounded a lot like a new Charles Bronson movie that was coming out called breakout huh wait what huh what Charlie Bronson huh what that's our movie still Don did take a couple of trips to Los Angeles and managed to sell his story rights to a
Starting point is 01:40:07 company named Mustang Productions which happened to be owned by a Dallas City Councilman okay so when asked about Mike Don said quote I wouldn't go out partying with him drinking or anything I'm not saying I'm better than anybody else but we're coming from two different places and mine's better after the breakout Don told the reporter I didn't really think I was doing anything wrong if I'd known going in that I was gonna be breaking laws of this country Mexico I didn't care about I wouldn't I wouldn't have done it but since I found out that I did break the law I'm gonna have to pay for it that's the American way right
Starting point is 01:40:45 no no it is not you imagine what I tell you something about Wells Fargo Don can you imagine someone named Don getting in over their head with illegality because they didn't really know what the fuck they were doing I don't know what you're talking about I'm just saying it would be crazy so so Mike thought Don calling him a hired hand was costing him money he wondered if anything else besides besides sterling had been paid any money anything besides the money sterling had given him had been paid sterling dished out any more photocopied checks yeah did any of the other prisoners pay money he's
Starting point is 01:41:37 wondering right none of the money had gotten to Mike it turns out at least two prisoners who had escaped jail were visited by Don and he threatened to return them to Mexico if they did not cough up 5k so empty once said Don threatened to kill him okay yeah Don's learned a bunch of lessons he's just a big old character at the same time sterling's life is falling apart on May 12th he's forced to withdraw his application for a psychologist's license but he he'd faked so hard through school on July 12th the Mexican consul in Dallas announced he had never gotten a degree from the National University in
Starting point is 01:42:22 Mexico City weird because we don't print degrees in English then the judge in his bullfrog case said said a hearing to discuss revoking his probation sterling had left the country while on probation and he had bragged to reporters he sent 70k to his son he still owed 50k in restitution to his bullfrog victims Jesus and and 9800 of his fine so he'd paid $200 of all that shit okay oh wow in court sterling explained he didn't realize Eagle Pass and P.A. just negris were different cities sure sure again really meticulous yeah there's a bridge in a border it's hard to tell it is hard to tell and then he blame blamed the 70k
Starting point is 01:43:05 amount that's being reported on the reporter being confused he had told the reporter that he was gonna lie to him which he did I did say that sterling said he was prepared to sign over his movie right contracts to look like I'll walk away from the movie project what movie you old idiot whoa so the judge started pressing him on the movie rights story and sterling said on the stand that Warner Brothers had advanced him a thousand dollars yeah so I think it's because they have a frog as their logo quote the Warner Brothers people were here in town last week they're supposed
Starting point is 01:43:44 to start shooting in September so now Don was also there as a possible witness okay and he looks remarkably happy the reason why no because it turns out as part of a publicity stunt someone in Scotland was paying him to go to Scotland to dive in search of the Loch Ness monster gigs a gig what are you so happy about I'm gonna go find the Loch Ness man Hollywood came calling again man of adventure right here he's getting a thousand dollars for the trip oh perfect then the judge if he finds her more I got or him let's not no Nessie I would say gender specific we don't know I've
Starting point is 01:44:57 seen a picture and all I've seen is the Loch Ness vagina yeah yeah that is a good as a graphic photo yeah but that's the only one they have with the pussy yeah buddy holy shit that's a lady Loch Ness I'll tell you what I tell you what I got that in my room right above my bed and the contracts over just leave for crazy stand up here talking about Nessie's pussy that's unbelievable tell you what I didn't know a Loch Ness can look like that inside then I found myself inside a Nessie via vagina okay it was sort of like Pinocchio but a little more graphic so wet but I mean always wet because it's in a lake once you're
Starting point is 01:45:51 inside really opens up it's a beautiful condo essentially what yeah once you're inside her the inside really opens up in a beautiful space I let a candle had a reed you let a candle in line I was in there for about a day day and a half through the vagina via vagina yes hey deal's a deal anyway I apologize for everything that I said mm-hmm the judge then recessed to September until after Sterling's trial for the breakout so she's like we'll deal with the probation stuff later okay until up until one month before their trial Don was still trying to get money from escape prisoners he repeatedly
Starting point is 01:46:39 called Kerry Jorgensen of Colorado demanding five thousand and wanting to know where other prisoners were at one point Don told her quote you're being very inconsiderate not paying me okay bye she also said Don told her quote he could bag us all and take us back to Mexico you can't go to Mexico you liar Sterling Mike and Billy went on trial in late September their defense attorney argued Don was working for the State Department and that the government was not admitting to it because they were embarrassed by Don well that's quite a swing for the fences theory
Starting point is 01:47:16 wow the three were looking at possibly five years each in a ten thousand dollar fine Don testified he got just two convicts Don testified on the stand that he got twenty five thousand dollars for the movie rights okay one thousand a look for the Loch Ness monster well and twenty five thousand dollars for the breakout 15 K came from the brother of another prisoner shut up so he is another third it gave him a third prisoner gave him five thousand and then with Sterling's five he made 20 shit he claimed why go with the sorry why take the Loch Ness gig when you're getting all this money that's adventure yeah also I don't know
Starting point is 01:48:01 if you've seen Loch Ness's vagina I gotta go I'm Dan rather with 60 minutes hey Tim Matt Loch Ness monster Don claimed on the stand he paid Mike 12 K which Mike did not agree with and then he paid Billy five thousand five hundred sorry under cross-examination under cross-examination he denied he ever called Billy a West Dallas punk the prosecution played the TV interview with a masked Mike Hall and a shot that's not me but there was no sound so it did nothing to help the prosecution's case because they couldn't identify how are you not able to get a tape with sound man talk about the relief you're like
Starting point is 01:48:52 oh thank god I knew that was Billy's sisters testified that he told them he was going out of town on a government job I'll say y'all later I'm off on a government job that's what they do with non-readers Mike Hill and Sterling were both convicted of conspiring of importing a weapon into the United States and acquitted of two other charges Billy was acquitted completely after the judge sentenced Mike and Sterling on October 3rd 1976 she said quote I would stay away from the Mexican border after Mike told reporters he didn't think he'd done anything wrong Don was sentenced to four years Mike got six years Sterling got
Starting point is 01:49:40 five years which would be conserved serve concurrently with his probation sons right they were all fine ten thousand dollars each Don had been told he would probably get probation for taking the plea deal but he got four years right in November 1978 Mike and Sterling's convictions were thrown out on appeal for several reasons so the only guy really who has a record from this is Don yeah well that's Hollywood baby yep on February 10th 1980 the Irving Daily News reported Don Fielden had found God and was a born-again Christian oh dear quote I'm a convicted Christian instead of a convicted felon
Starting point is 01:50:28 some means he's a preacher now he is going around speaking he had grown a beard to change his appearance okay he is me I am him okay right he said he didn't care for the limelight no no not me he was remarried to the Lord he still believed he hadn't done anything morally wrong and believed he was only a scapegoat quote scapegoat a Christian scapegoat and had only been sent to prison to appease the Mexican government quote by all rights why should I be convicted of a crime that's done every day well because everything you said is a literal lie just now so it's not done every day it's not true never done it's
Starting point is 01:51:24 like not been done a lot every single day guys are breaking guys out of jail in Mexico well that's not at all factual can't pick up a paper though I have a right broken out of Mexican jail with a bunch of buddies is the last one in years it's like black because I'm a Christian that's why no no because you broke the law and this doesn't happen every day as you stated if I didn't believe in Jesus mm-hmm I wouldn't have gone jail for busting all those guys out of jail no you would have amen I love the Lord great and keep it to yourself nope wow I just thought of something well don't say it out loud I'm leaving it's
Starting point is 01:52:16 almost like me converted to Christianity is the perfect end for a movie you know Charles Bronson's making Bruce almighty so if you're creatively cleared there that's it that's it Jesus Christ that's crazy you know you guys should call the movie the silver van thank you guys so much for coming out we really appreciate it truly thank you

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