The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 362 - Moving Day

Episode Date: January 29, 2019

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Moving Day in New York City. SSOURCESTOUR DATES OFFICIAL MERCH

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hands in start with a prayer hands off let's give it a little thanks to you but thanks put your hands on your god damn hands finish intro first of all finish the intro finish the intro to the podcast this is a bilingual American history podcast each week I read a story in traditional Hebrew and English from American from American history what a train wreck every week just my name is David Anthony read to my friend Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about that true yeah let's start with a prayer no and called it quote his jam-packed I'm the fucking hippo guy okay my name is Gary what is it for fun

and this is not going to come to tickly clock okay now hit him with the puppy you both present sick arguments all right that's like a real show do you got any dates coming up yeah I'm dating your mom this Friday I started the music again oh no is that what happens is that a penance we should point out that we are doing this episode in Burbank at the you know and the and the all things comedy studio so if you want to watch us do this you can go to the all things comedy YouTube page and by the five may it is dynamic to watch I mean who wouldn't what about this isn't okay I do my video face that's terrible it's

a nightmare 1625 you're very Lord Jesus Christ can we just start with one prayer no we just start with one no a handful of Dutch West India company settlers had spent the winner on Governor's Island to set up a fur trading post okay in the early summer they started moving to Manhattan along with a hundred newcomers who had just arrived from Amsterdam okay by the middle of September they had moved their cows and horses on to Manhattan okay okay sure that's a different vibe now it's gonna be hard to get it I mean you're ever taking a cow across on a canoe or something like that yeah no never done that you

surprised with my answer no yeah yeah yeah actually no I've never canoeed a cow I've never cow nude oh count no man come on let's go people start turning this off oh I was I was doing video stuff yeah so now they had to build enough housing to survive the winter okay they did in a year later they had around 30 houses okay it's a lot quote made of the bark of trees sure sure sure sure weird sure I mean are we just pointing out how thin the homes are it's not a great I mean generally I feel like that would fail up like a inspection inspection yeah like I gotta be like I gotta come right down so you made this out of bark

yeah but this is load-bearing bark sir so you need this bark here otherwise the bark roof will come down and you know we could all get a sore arm okay so the thing is there's actually no such things load-bearing bark it's outside of the tell that well let me take you to the man cave because I think you'll see there it's all load-bearing bark look at this huh you believe that yeah I believe it it's not this is not looking here huh did you think about using wood well no okay yeah this is all built on the West Side Manhattan three years later in August 1628 the settlers were quote beginning to build sturdy new houses

to replace the hovels and huts okay so they moved beyond bark yes and now they're like let's actually build some place bush of a hot a bark hut bark huts right that's not great no legend had it that the Dutch started their move to Manhattan on the 1st of May and legend legend I mean even if it's not true I'm not gonna be that impressed okay and that on each May Day anniversary after they would repeat it by leaving their houses and moving to a new one okay uh-huh like a little musical chairs but for a house sure on a certain day yeah what sort of like an elaborate clock would do every hour that's right

right a Dutch encyclopedia from 1696 says the first day of May was called a verhus dog or moving day sure where you would just literally leave your house you move on that day so just every May every May 1st vacate new house new house gotta get a new house all right it was standard to have leases whether commercial or residential expire on May 1st this is one year you're deciding one year jumped ahead okay this so it that's the day people moved on May 1st some locations in England May 1st was known as pack rag day sure doesn't surprise me coming to my homeland that's the day I swear to God if you told my mother pack

rag day there I mean she still has an a tremendous amount of rags yeah time to pack the rags oh this is a good rag something my mother said who put the rag there who that's a nice rag things I've literally heard from so it was called that because that was the day when servants would put their possessions in a bundle and switch employers at hiring fairs switch okay so you're so may is kind of like you you just may you just change everything you're starting over you're just a no new home new new career yep new spouse sure why not hey I like it moving day in New York went on like this for over a hundred years so

starting at 1625 which keeps fucking gone everyone did did on the same day everybody's moving every May 1st yeah in 1809 Washington Urban Irving wrote quote the members love doing this to nothing well I mean just the fact that you're already like wait a minute what is happening it's crazy that is crazy yeah the fact that every May for you like man I love this Bob but hey you know what I mean it's April 30th but they were like everyone started doing it in 1625 so let's just keep it going yeah okay so Washington Irving wrote quote the memorable emigration of the great

settlers to New Amsterdam took place on the 1st of May and was long-sighted in tradition as the grand moving the anniversary anniversary of it was piously observed among their sons by turning their houses topsy-turvy and carrying all their furniture into the streets this is what I mean you when it May 2nd must have been a great day when you're like oh thank God it's not furniture Street Day every single person like let's go so that's 1809 so we're almost 200 years in and they're still may moving they're still may moving on May 1st okay and it was further slit solidified when in 1820 the New York

State Legislature passed a law that made all leases end on the 1st of May dude I'm not gonna belabor my amazement at this but I mean you must just be I mean it's like the purge of apartments it's mayhem it's just chaos it is a little it is a little purgy yeah I just rest my ringers on cuz I had I still care about you it's not there's got nothing to do with that what's happening well what's happening what's happening is that you wouldn't pray with me and now yeah I don't pray okay I think my prayers so so so they passed this law leases on the May 1st May 1st though the number of people within who were

within leases at that time was small minority so you don't have the Manhattan we see today of tons of buildings and apartments it's a lot of just houses and then there's some leases you know but it's not a huge deal right tenants would find out if their rent was going to increase on February 1st and then that gave them three months to find a new place or to decide to stay with a new rent increase okay so most people decide to stay in their old place until the very last minute for whatever reason okay a city ordinance so basically our like climate change policy yeah it's the same thing right okay a city ordinance

stated tenants not renewing their lease had to leave their building by 9 o'clock a.m. and be in their new place by T question be in their new place by 3 p.m. okay but a lot of people had no idea where they were this is May 1st and people don't know where they're going well at that point if you know you're you should have a place lined up if you can line one up you maybe you can't but you have you have to find a place by 3 p.m. you have six hours to move all your shit okay that's fine that's normal it's not normal stressful I'm stressed a writer quote year after year on the writer I know I didn't know who was a

writer quote year after year on the 1st of May the Universal Moving Day homeless people gathered in the park with their goods and chattels and were lodged in the jail until the houses they had rented could be got ready for them so people who so now these are people who have breaking law so these are people whose place is not ready yet right so so they just go to the jail what you got okay so goddamn what so if you didn't have your crazy May Day move lined up you went to jail yeah you had to have it ready yet to be new place by 3 p.m. if not you just go to the park and then you're in your homeless and then you

put in jail okay so this is when there was enough like prisons for the homeless I guess so yeah right there was also major change because with empty buildings landlords could get busy the mayor wrote about it on the moving day 1826 quote the pulling down of houses and stores in the lower parts is awful bricks rafters and slates are showered down in every direction it looks like the ruin from an earthquake further up at the corner of Chamber Street a row of low buildings has been removed to make way for one of those mighty structures called a hotel eating drinking and lodging above with Mary shops below so these

these these guys are not you own a building yeah taking advantage of it you want to build a bigger building you take advantage of May 1st and when everyone vacates you just fucking tear that shit down and start so on May 1st is also a day first is the day when you can decide to rebuild page one rewrite your place and so you imploded so on May 1st yeah everybody's moving furniture some people who don't have homes are being jailed because they're now technically as they should be they're illegal and building owners are just deciding now that they could just explode their buildings down start a new

one build the hotel now now you can build the hotel that the fucking Ferguson's are gone this is normal till buildings start getting bigger more people moving into those buildings the next year there was a yellow fever epidemic okay and this would have been a great time for us to pray no banks and stores were forced to move to makeshift structures on Bank Street a paper wrote quote Greenwich is no longer a country village such has been the growth of our city that the building of one block will sorry of the building of one block more will connect the two places and in three years time Greenwich will be known

only as a part of the city and the suburbs will be beyond them so basically Greenwich is blowing up okay become a big place now in lots that just had a house there were tenements all right there had been a house before now there's very quickly as it's happening the city is exploding now there's tenements with 80 to 150 people living in them okay most were built quickly to house immigrants who are arriving from Europe with not a lot of money and no job okay they had three rooms a front room two bedrooms plumbing was almost non-existent except each time would have a backyard outhouse or a pump I think it's safe to

say your initial statements still true I just just just so we know where I'm at just so we know where I'm at yeah let's get with you with me I would rather die than share a bathroom with 80 people but not a bathroom day not a bathroom it's a shit a shit hole not about it's a it's an outhouse yeah I mean really the only thing that is separating it from just regular land is four walls and a hole yeah yeah no so so I'd rather be dead right okay like right there I'm not going back in time just kill me I don't want that I don't want any part of what's happening don't you think the line so what you can't go to a concert for a

weekend I'm not gonna shit at a concert what are you gonna do I'm gonna fucking ship before I go or hold that in I'm not gonna fucking shit at a fucking so you but you'd never go to like Coachella and like just being the elements for like yeah I'm not gonna do that anymore I'm to it there were times when I did but I'm not gonna I wouldn't either but I just love to picture you there just you know with your legs cross like legs cross I mean I like the food fighters but so right we'll get back to those we'll get back to those times yeah the neighborhoods reached densities of half a million people per square mile a resident quote

to live a family of eight in three rooms seemed quite normal as was being without a bathroom and sharing the toilet with three neighbors so that's right there it's 24 people to to a no that's more that's right eight times I think that's 32 this 30 says he's talking about four four neighbors for them sure 34 humans to a 32 humans to a toy that's a lax number to me this is the toilet apocalypse like this is yeah yeah it's the apocalypse they knew it sucked and that they had it worse off than others so they knew that they were living in a shitty situation because they other houses and stuff right they

quote knew that by American standards they were victims of an outrage an outhouse rage an outhouse rich but they also remembered that in the old country many of them had lived in hovels so they submitted as best they could to their daily burdens determined to escape as quickly as possible okay working class people cannot afford to ride in horse carriages or later the street cars that came so most New Yorkers tried to live close to where they worked okay that makes sense the Lower East Side was working class and immigrants the West Side was where merchants and professionals lived okay pros right the peeps

for the pros right prescription sorry a description of lower Manhattan Irish neighborhood quote a dozen gruesome doorways gave I'm gonna say first let me say this person is not a huge fan of yours well Dave I think your first half sentence sort of shows that gruesome what do you call like a doorway gruesome you're digging a dozen gruesome doorways gave up loads of babies to the street and the gutter so the doorway is just like baby shitting out of the street babies rolling out in a wave of just like meh to I'm 20 I'm 20 I'm fresh from the womb garments fluttered from fire escapes in all

unhandy places there were buckets of brooms rags and bottles in this street I mean those kind of are the essentials that's the Irish normal and the street infants played or fought with other infants that's playing or sat stupidly in the way of this person is just that stupid child they're just dumb look at these stupid Irish babies sitting in the street you want to go watch the infants fight hey what am I doing I'm joining formidable women with uncombed hair and to sort of dress gossiped while leaning on railings or screamed and frantic quarrels wither sounds awesome yeah withered persons what you're looking at

me withered persons and curious postures of submission sat smoking pipes in obscene corners this is me by the way the building quivered and creaked from the weight of humanity stamping about in its bowels so that person doesn't is not a huge fan of the tenement like a set dresser for a musical it's really not great yeah so it's a packed tenement it's a fucking full of Irish it's not great no one no one wants a giant building full Irish probably not even the Irish the Irish the Irish are ready to move on obviously the person who wrote that did not have a big grasp of poverty no I would imagine no it wasn't uncommon for

people to live in a dozen dozen houses in a dozen years okay so you would literally just move every fucking year good lord and those same people would talk about wanting to move again to try another neighborhood out it's it's like yeah though it's really fucking weird yeah well I think it just became the norm right yeah it's going on for a couple hundred years now so I'm but I get it in a way like the idea of going to checking out a different neighborhood but it's also like having to I mean I guess we just have so much stuff now moving is such a nightmare I just think that they it's just what you did yeah well and by

the way I mean this is this sort of shit still happens you know it's like if you're in some like drug-torn country they will like torn or war or you know drug torn drug infested there's war lords yeah I came from a country was torn apart by magic mushrooms you wish but they will like they'll like bust up you know they bust up a building at like 3 p.m. and it's like you got to go yeah that's it moving on yep so so though at this point it was actually very hard to to rent for longer than a year okay so it's both sides like the people want to move but also the landlords make it hard for you to stay right because if the

landlords get you out they can raise the rent right either way they can raise the rent really yeah 85% of New Yorkers live within two miles of Union Square David Crockett visited and wrote quote we drove up to the city and took a view of the improvements and beautiful houses in the new part by the time we returned down Broadway it seemed to me that the city was flying before some awful calamity I was told it was moving day every street with a baby Crockett to New York on moving day it's like what the fuck oh boy every street was crowded with carts wagons and people so yeah he just saw it he was like you Crockett he

was like what the fuck is going on hey come on it's me a resident quote in every direction there were carts and wagons laden with furniture the streets were literally filled with chairs tables drawers desk carpets etc passing from one house to another it is so weird the movers loved it yeah the movers loved it it's the busy day you know it's the day we work I mean people like give a Halloween store shit imagine being a mover you get one day one day I take 364 off one day a year it's a crazy day though oh my god holy shit my my dogs are barking it's a busy day it's a busy time of the day we call it working day

yeah it's working day on moving day Cartman they're called Cartman because they had carts sure I made double wages so did the quote in New York gossips they would use moving day they didn't make double they didn't make double wages they loved it also gossips sorry oh gossips okay right I was like they're paying god was like did you hear they would use moving day to peep into the lodgings of strangers because as Mayday got closer landlords would post a rent notice and then people would come and just go look at apartments so not only people coming through who actually want to live there there's just like people are coming through

to just look to see how your yeah professional gossipers we've always been the same we just haven't had a phone forever some were actually looking at the space others came to look at your shit and see how you lived quote it is almost impossible for a stranger who has occupied lodgings and wishes to escape in position to avoid such intrusion into his private rooms we had we have suffered this ourselves and therefore speak from experience okay so there's no law like now your landlord has to be 24 hours right if he comes over right so the place but then they could just fucking show up and like yeah here he is

he's smoking weed and eating cereal hey it's a nice space boy he's really a pig huh yeah don't say yeah when I'm talking to her please sir yeah shut up and just please have you had a nice okay if you look on the table and no pants I got no pants that really opens up so you got two of these closets mm-hmm that's nice so a shit in one the obviously the outhouse thing I can do is in this one so that's obviously one down 40 people and the one over there I like because it really opens up but the other one it seems to be of that's my shit one sort of area for refuse I suppose shit but I like everything I hear and I got to find

a place because obviously it's May 1st and yeah time so you only could look at really one place all right well I think once you get the hose on this guy and get all his stuff out then I'll yeah I'll definitely I'm dead I'm interested I'm interested all right well get that closet cleaned guys a nightmare American born women spend a lot of their free time going into the apartments of foreigners to see if they were respectable and had their rooms well furnished so why white women let's let's throw in some racism here yeah so native-born American white women are just cruising around looking at the filthy

Irish and the filthy Germans and the filthy English and Italians and judging and judging and being assholes quote Americans could not have invented any domestic custom more prying or which gives a greater access to the privacy of strangers right this is cool yeah totally cool yeah immigrants were shocked by moving day and thought it was stupid hmm interesting I'm sorry we do what here oh you guys probably do something foolish where you're from see every May 1st we all just leave and find a new place with all of our stuff and if you don't you go to jail welcome to the USA are you fucking idiots I'm walking away now one

English woman said it looked like the population was abandoning abandoning the city due to a plague because everyone's just fucking streaming out of the house with all their shit yeah although I don't know how much moving you do when you have the plague or when someone has the plague well I think she's saying that that not that people they're scared of getting the plague so yeah but either but even if you're scared of getting the plague you're like yeah you gotta leave a couple things we'll find a new bed you know what I mean all right that's what we get there we'll do we'll do a shop yeah we'll hit pure one imports we'll buy

some of the stuff that's a thing again it's airborne okay everyone should we bring the rat absolutely bring the rat okay you mean mighty yeah yeah everyone seemed to be annoyed by it but it was unavoidable if you rented it was the way it was people actually started building houses just to avoid moving day yeah that makes total sense right people probably still were coming in your place like what's the deal here what are we doing you guys are open or no I own this well come on if I rummage through your stuff to see how you live yes yes this is my house so you actually can't come into it I use your toilet no no guys your toilet

don't have a toilet closet can I go on your lap no can I go on my lap no not here all right happy May no hey it's gonna be my don't do it in dance all right thank you writer Lydia Maria child called moving day the saddest thing she'd ever seen children were on the street carrying what they could for their parents the dogs look bewildered and the cats sat on doorsteps meowing quote so they were the animals were the exact same the animals were also like what the fuck must have just I mean they must go crazy oh my god imagine cats on moving I cannot it's like a cat apocalypse at that point quote human

apocalypse I had to because you did one night you didn't you didn't have to do that that's the thing I'll wait for my third quote human beings are such creatures of habit and imitation that what is a necessity soon becomes a fashion and each one wishes to do what everyone else is doing a lady in the neighborhood closed all her blinds and shutters on May day when asked by her friend whether she had been in the country she answered I was just shamed to not be moving on the 1st of May so I shut up the house that the neighbors might not know it she felt like a pariah for not moving that's right so it's so

everyone is so into moving now on the first she was depressed because she didn't was depressed she was shamefully hiding because she didn't want people to see her not moving like some kind of fucking animal what is your plan May 2nd for everyone that's been to your place over the last year okay so what you just shut your blinds for one day and then you're like I guess it's just on that day she cuz it's like when you're when you when you're at a party be inferred from the fact that you are staying in the same place that you didn't move May 1st so the shame that you're hiding from May 1st you're gonna

feel for the rest of May on the day of the event it's like if you go to a toga party and you're wearing jeans and a shirt on that day you feel like an asshole so it's just that day no it's not it is no it isn't you know what it's like moving in Rome you don't know what moving day is like for us what are you entire neighborhoods would be broken up so everyone in the neighborhood is gone and when it was over people would not know where to look for their friends because everyone had frantically practically taken off to their new place sticking to this plan who's still we gotta make new friends you know what I

mean we'll just find new everything we'll just find new friends every May I mean we make new friends like I assume you tell like your close friends you're like hey Larry Bill I'm moving but then you've got to tell Jeff and Gary and then everyone is moving it's not one person everyone's moving and there's no phone oh hey Ted I thought you were Bill where's Bill ah shit maybe we'll see him again maybe not yeah that's what that's one of the perils of moving day well it's I mean it's hard to live but it's but no it's what we do yeah it is not the Brooklyn Daily Eagle in 18 great publication the

best it's an eagle a nightmare is an eagle the Brooklyn Daily Eagle in 1847 said a large part of the year was spent restoring the order that had been disturbed by moving day sure you're really not happy with the concept I really think what this era needs is somebody to say hey everybody let's just take a time out yeah now every single May we lose our shit as a town yeah let's stop doing that you can stay in a place no for a while okay so counter argument yeah it's what we do the landlords were very much down with moving day let them easily raise rents so it's easier to raise rent on a new

person than it is a person that stays there right and the Daily Eagle said they would resist getting rid of it so landlords want it people think it's fashionable the paper called for the laws that led to moving day to be changed for the public good and convenience but the law was contrary to both so that's 1847 so we are now 225 years into moving day people who own real estate use moving day to gauge the state of the market if it was a day of total chaos that meant the market was good if it was a calm day that meant the market was bad it's the markets good every year the markets gets chaos and now you have

surveyors out there too I mean they're pissed but they're not live at this I didn't see that many angry dogs this year running around not knowing where they were yeah I mean like predicting Groundhog Day seems as good in 1854 the New York Times wrote about how great the market was for landlords quote we chanced to be in downtown office the other day when the house agent guy for the landlord made his call the rooms are rented at 1200 last year that's a lot of fucking money yeah 1200 that's a lot of fucking money New York 1854 it's always been atrocious 1200 1200 the rooms were rented at 1200 last year this he said was

very low oh yeah this is New York quote too low to secure a good tenant like yourself now we must have 1600 of from the 1st of May such rewards for good tenants we hear are common this season the rise in rent is from 20 to 33% Wow so they're just so it's shacking up right it's not rent control there's no yeah there's no I mean there's no this is this is the free market baby yeah capital of the libertarian dream right yeah right yeah some people enjoyed the hell out of it for them moving they became a day of ritual celebration they danced in the streets and lit bonfires particularly in the poor neighborhoods

all right good so just to add a little Mrs. Dash to the party there's fires yes great when writer Seba Smith saw the bonfires he thought the tenants were angry and rioting and going to burn the city down why no no no they're celebrating why wouldn't they be it's a day of moving but it turned out they were just burning their old straw beds which had become a tradition Dave keep going bud keep telling me the story on moving day everyone now burned their straw bed Dave I'll let you know when I see something crazy I'll stop you just a bunch of straw beds burning in the streets while everyone's moving boys would

dance around the fire and poke it with sticks while chanting Hoorah Hoorah for we roast bedbugs and fleas hark here the fleas roar and the butt bugs crack and snap like burning sticks okay you need you need to go it's just I normally would leave I need you to leave have you ever now say you're having a romantic night with a lady have you ever just thrown some bedbugs on the fire or fleas and just heard them scream or pop it's pretty pretty great slipping to something a little more comfortable yeah and then come back in a velvet suit I'm gonna throw these bedbugs in the fire listen to them die as they did this so as the

fires are burning the Cartman had to steer around the mess and fires as they move people's belongings to their new houses of course that's right this is a new a new thing to deal with the fires mayday moving that's right at first the movers were farmers from Long Island who had wagons to rent so back in the day farmers would come in but now it's all Cartman and it's a business sure yep in the beginning so the car sorry the Cartman were licensed now well okay people do not think much of the Cartman okay their lack of concern for clients was legendary okay so that hasn't changed much movers are still movers yeah I

feel like so there's some good ones for sure yeah there's good movers you know what you do work with the movers oh move with the movers become one with the movers you know then you're on the team and then you can watch what's going on sure not funny or interesting but said I'm search you leave chair no you do not take chair yeah no I take chair no chair have you leave chair no I'm taking the chair chairs not okay boys just eight people sorry something would always end up broken or lost her in the move and Cartman were known to get into fist fights with each other and get arrested on moving day great that's great when

you're for your move to when you're moving all of your things on a whim to go find a new some other guy pulls up the cart and then your Cartman get into a fight yeah you got two carts head-to-head you fucking get ice cream each other next thing you're a punch what's the worst that could happen one of the bed bug straw fires hits your cart and all your things burn yeah that's it from Isaac Alliance oh recollections of an old Cartman quote during the last two weeks of April of each year the Cartman begin to put on an attitude and look and act with more importance than any other time yeah I their value yeah I guess so bro

hey I don't want any BS you need a you need a mover I need a Cartman to help me move that's right for me first yeah that's cool I could probably do that great so a couple things I'm gonna need from you I'm gonna not gonna lie go ahead off to a rocky start go ahead and call me Lord okay that is not so you're making a mistake right now don't look me in the eyes I am gonna absolutely look you in the eyes and I'm going to look you in the eyes and tell you I have a problem with your first rule and how you're gonna move your shit I'm gonna go talk to another Cartman Lord Johnson because he's over there you can talk to Lord

Johnson if you want don't look him in the eyes he doesn't like it I'll go talk to nobody likes it all right we're all lords okay I'll go talk to Lord Johnson then I guess okay piece of shit what's your problem I'm a mover who gives a shit everybody then started calling the Cartman Mr. Cartman he becomes very domineering and everybody feels that isn't their interest if not their duty to bow and cringe to him oh my god we're on that day of all the year it is generally admitted that a Cartman may charge any price that he pleases this is the purge so there's not a rule there's not a rule to be found so people start being super nice to the

Cartman because they don't want him to suck your dick charge so much money yeah yeah yeah it makes sense I mean what's how our government functions now the times started calling moving day the Cartman's Harvest that's a great band that is the Cartman's Harvest the Brooklyn Daily Eagles said Cartman were one of the most necessary evils of moving day they could put you don't need moving day no it's not true what would you do otherwise I don't understand they could charge what they wanted and be as rude as they wanted and smash smash furniture without consequences not okay people on moving day were at the

Cartman's Mercy everyone just knew price gouging was part of the deal on moving day many New Yorkers had to pay an entire week's wage to move it's basically income tax yeah it's a time in because every day every you know like I mean basically at one one day-ish every year or around one time we all are losing our minds trying to get it all together and then we do it and we recognize that we're getting fucked but we just want to be over it and start the next yeah so this is a this is a version of a private industry tax yeah right so a useless industry so the city made law made laws regulating what the Cartman

could legally charge articles would then be published the night before in the papers the night before moving day so the public knew how much the Cartman could legally charge Dave I'm not I'm not trying to poke holes go ahead why is it the night before why why could this not have happened a week before so that you can have a little bit of a chance to get your head straight before you go into I think nightmare day I think because maybe you know it's a big week that's a big week there's literally nothing if you publish it the day before then when the Cartman comes that day you can go no this is how much it's supposed to cost

is that not possible a week prior yeah but yeah I don't know it's very hard moving week's hard yeah well it sounds like you made your argument at a bar but the problem with this is is that the number of movers is limited there's not that many Cartman which allowed them to keep charging crazy high amounts and people would just pay it right the city ordinances for Cartman in 1869 stated they could only charge 60 cents per load for half a mile and one third for each additional mile they did not have to take the goods to a particular part of the house they could just take it and dump it in the front fine we'll take it

if a mover was taken advantage of by Cartman uh-huh they could complain to officer David B. Jones inspector of hacks oh god we need him in the comedy world officer Jones he was working the club the inspector of hacks shit he's coming down and I always everybody I don't want to take it too much in time I heard Carlos Mancey is performing I just want to take a look Kyle Cease is no longer here right we got Kyle Cease all right well if you see him let me know I'll leave you my card I'm Inspector of Hacks officer Jones said he would rule in favor of anyone who went to the trouble to make out a complaint against

the Cartman okay he's just like he's down to invest yeah he's like anybody who writes a complaint fuck those guys so on the inspector and my rule is fuck those guys hey inspector of hacks what happened to you well back in the day you see one of the carbon he my wife and I was moving on moving day and he scratched my arm wall oh my god I'm sorry I don't talk about it much because I'm not good at processing emotions that's why I'm on the force you know the inspector force but that's why those bests can do no right in my eyes if you got a complaint against one of these carbon you let me know I don't they tried to buff it out

but you can still sort of see it underneath the finest I gotta be honest I don't care I think you're overreacting it's a normal it's still totally functional and we pushed it up against the wall but where someone to move it you would see it when his day I mean if you studied it it's a squinter you know what I mean you gotta squint so you have really incredible emotional issues straight up this is nothing to do with the arm while you don't hug you the worst quote a well-known hairdresser at the afterhouse named a signore a chris the door hello I'm Chris for Dora you make call me senor a

I'm Polish had better tenant for 13 years starting in 1842 at 1300 per year okay in 18 I can't believe the rate the rents and a 1300 years it's insane for 1842 are we wrong are you wrong per year yeah but still I mean that's still a shitload yeah for 1842 in 1847 the lease was renewed for seven years at 1500 so that five years later it goes I'm like an NFL contract as far as if we pick up the option that'll be another two years depending but if you get injured and you don't stay in the place for 80% of your contract we have every right to evict you so five years it goes up to $100 okay then in 1854 it was increased to

$3750 it is going to be 1300 a month in no time he tried to bargain with the landlord but the landlord wasn't interested when this got attention in the media and it was pointed out that Christodoro had made improvements and decorations the landlord agreed to meet with him again they discussed it why not offer a haircut sweet in the pot and he said quote sir you deserve some mark of my favor I will do for you what I would do for no new tenant $50 should come off she'll come off my god the shop is yours for 3700 a year alright don't say I didn't do anything for you put my hand out to be shaken for sure so I mean

it almost tripled in what 12 years yeah rents continue to shoot up as the New York Times called it absurd businesses were being destroyed landlords used any opportunity to raise rents I mean landlords are all just the monopoly guy right yeah oh fuck yeah they still are the ability to raise rents was not due to vacancy rates but moving day which created which created confusion distraction combinations of property owners and intense speculation in tenement housing yeah so it just it just creates chaos and then from that they get profit like they use it to their advantage well David's a familiar

ingredient rich guy would buy a building and then he merely raised rents and then resell the building for a profit because he just raised the rent so a guy would just buy a building say the rents increased 500 each and then sell it and go this is how much more it's worth that's crazy thousands of bill buildings were changing houses were changing hands like this so all these houses guys are just buying it saying the rents now this and then selling it to someone else some houses in the Bronx and Brooklyn were being sold several times in one month huh and every guy that bought it would just raise the rent my god that's

imagine a mid-month rent raise twice excuse me no a guy already came by I know we're doing it again so it's my building's been sold six times this month I know it's crazy the markets nuts anyway you always you know like 1500 whatever then there were there was a leasing of buildings a landlord who owned too many buildings to manage release a whole building to someone for a fixed annual amount that this is just I mean the layers it's like yeah yeah then that guy so a guy is leasing a building and then he's charging everyone in the building rent and managing it and then that guy would turn around and raise the

rents and cut down on services to make a profit so you lease a building from landlord then you charge your one higher rents and then you cut down on services so you do anything is this is this clown I gotta make a little money out of my building but not my building but you know what I mean you know the building of anyway here's your toilet bucket hope you all enjoy it it's 40 a buck this especially happened in Jewish communities on the lower east side Williamsburg and Brownsville the leasing was hated because the neighborhood thought he was taking advantage of his fellow countrymen it was chaos many slab

in the mid 1800s wrote about what they saw on moving day New Yorker lawyer George Templeton strong quote every house seems to be disgorging itself into the street all the scourging all the sidewalks are lumbered with bureaus and bedsteads to the utter destruction of their character as thoroughfares Anthony trollop quote a furniture rich furniture and a ragged furniture carts wagons and trays ropes and canvas and straw Pacers porters a Dreyman yellow white a black occupy the street font east to west north to south Dave let me and maybe present it to our listeners in a way that kind of makes you see it

today imagine if everyone was moving like at the same time like imagine if everyone on the same day was moving girl it's interesting just think of what that would look like it doesn't sound great I don't I don't even like going to work whenever it's going to work it's gonna ruin your thoroughfares as they're finding out in this time in 1869 a landlord put an agent in charge of finding a new tenant imagine if it's like a horror preview everyone moved he would be like no but he was very particular about the kind of person he wanted so took the agent all the way up until it was almost moving day to find a

new tenant when the landlord was getting worried so he found a tenant on his own okay the agent also found a tenant oh no both tenants then found out about each other a duel so one of them paid off the current tenant to leave early and arrive with his cart of furniture right after midnight and loaded all of his furniture in and then the second new tenant thought he got the jump and he got there at 5 a.m. only to find it was already occupied and then he sued the other guy and it was how contestants on reality shows call rooms when they get led into the house totally most stuffs here totally so what happens to this

person who shows up at 5 a.m. they're just like that's over a lot because the other guy was in there what's off to jail on moving day the offices of real estate agents began to be encircled by crowds full of crying women who had nowhere to go and whose belongings have been left on the street they begged for some kind of shelter and these scenes why don't you move into your bureaus you got a dress on right okay so that's good sleep in your drawers sleep in your drawer you got dresses you got drawers you got all you can sleep at all kinds of options so these crying women so this

leads to the construction of more buildings that's their answer that's the I love that it's great yeah nothing's changed New York New Yorker Philip Hone wrote he and his downtown neighbors are being offered such high amounts for their houses that no one could resist so now there's so many people that need houses on moving day they're building new buildings so now they're now they're buying people's houses out and building built the building right and the yeah okay so they in turn to your how you sell your house but you can't afford to buy a new house in that area if you can imagine this so they

went north to live in what used to be orchards and cornfields so they're moving out into the outer areas right their old downtown houses are turned into stores or torn down and made into buildings okay so moving day hardened boundaries and segregated the working class from the wealthy right moving and going into different yeah the first of may became a scary day for workers because any kind of setback during the year could make it impossible for them to afford housing those work every year every year those workers had to you know any memories a little bit killed my landlord yeah totally still still

applicable then applicable now so those workers had to move to so you have some something happened whatever something happens and it costs you money and you're something anything so those those workers had to move to find cheaper worse housing or bail on owed back rent and just run out on rent they owed moving day accelerated the quick transformation of New York and blew up a sense of community people could not remember the house they were born in but everyone saw moving day as just what was done your face we're just a dumbest sheep we are just the dumbest the founder of the

New York Historical Society wrote to his daughter quote Tuesday the first of May hazy raw it was very unfavorable for the general moving of our great city high rents uncomfortable dwellings and necessary necessity combined to crowd our streets with carts overloaded with furniture and hand barrels with sofas chairs sideboards looking glasses and pictures as to render the sidewalks almost impassable moving a looking glass my god the practice of all moving on one day is an ancient custom and when the city was small and inhabitants a few in number but now New York is literally in an uproar for seven for several days

before and after the first of May yeah this practice of moving to strangers appears absurd but it comes with the advantage of affording a greater choice of homes in the February quarter yeah but if you have one you like you're not afforded that but you but you can find a new great house no well you like this wine it's got all the things you're happy I didn't even think about the if it rains oh I mean if it rains yeah I mean just everybody your stuff's gone nobody's got stuff I mean it's I assume they pick May 1st because May 1st that's usually when it may have changed because there's this thing called climate change

but that's usually when weather's pretty good in New York that it's those one of two or three spring weeks that they actually have but sure it can rain absolutely but it's more likely to rain in the summer or the winter sure yeah or what you can do is you could say first nice day of May but now New York Times quote it would be the easiest matter in the world to break it up if it were desirable but as moving is a necessity in this moving age stop man the media is the same even the media well look in the Trump era it is infinitely better that all the moving should take place on one day and then

the Hurley-Burley is over for the year that's right then you don't have to worry about it for 11 months or worry about the whole 11 months everybody grumbles about moving yet everybody moves so we are compelled to believe that moving day is a natural and beneficial institution you're being told to leave and the legitimate outgrowth of our political constitution my god dumb dumb idiots the media and so it went on by 1880 we are 200 and 60 years into moving day the same stories that appeared in the papers a hundred years before written again on moving day carts loaded high kids helping Cartman being annoying one author claimed it was because

city dwellers craved variety in 1890 the legal rules for Cartman were published in the Times $2 for a load on a one-horse truck within two miles 50 cents for each additional mile 50 cents to load and unload on the first floor 25 cents for each additional flight of stairs of course they just charge what they wanted anyway sure either way by 1900 about a million New Yorkers were switching housing in just 24 hours a million look at you a million kids loved moving day they were usually taken out of school for weeks to help with the move and New York schools declared moving day

school holiday what other option is really in 1901 the new way you might have new students tomorrow because in 1901 the New York Times reported that expensive uptown residences had been changing their lease month to October to allow people to store their stuff and move after they went on vacation for the summer so rich people are changing their moving day these buggers have made first-class yeah but the rest of the city is still going at it on May the first and things have gotten worse by the way what's vacation time it's just you go somewhere in the Hamptons it's so like so like I'm off like when

you're all right you're American so it's called the holiday a lot of Europeans call it that but it's a time when you don't work and you get you still get paid but you get to go and take a vacation no no no no no no stop like a like a you seem like a rational gentleman and then you come over here and you spew nonsense well most go on vacation most Europeans get like a six week vacate during a year one year they'll take a six week vacation how can you afford to keep living well you get paid for all right my friend we've tried it we've tried to sort through this while you're not working it's the law that

you get working they're paying you yeah yeah because you've done labor for them you've produced for them over the year so they owe you yeah because you are worth that's right yes I'm in the Hawaiian sands getting paid of course my friend yes yes hey want to buy a genie lamp so so for the not wealthy moving day has gotten worse quote occupants of the cheaper apartments and tenements have been notified by their landlord under the terms of the law that permits the landlord to give two hours notice to vacate on May 1st once their contract had expired okay so now people are just getting kicked out like yeah it's getting

worse like they think they're gonna stay and pay the rent and their land was just kicking them out anyway right it's cool municipal courts now had extra afternoon sessions to handle all the landlords who are taking advantage of moving day my god so now you're adding you're adding going to court in the mix on moving day it's weird that landlords would take it advantage of this they're normally good people they're normally really good normally good people they're yes the municipal courts now had extra day right now so women complain their husbands had deserted them and they had no money or anywhere to go the Bureau of

contagious diseases received a lot of complaints from people whose landlords were trying to evict them even though people in the family were sick and landlords complain people were trying to avoid paying rent by claiming someone in the family was sick I like that in 1903 the New York Times said May 1st was no longer moving day because the real estate agents had destroyed the tradition by switching leases to October 1st an accident doing something good yeah then in 1904 the Times wrote there was a low supply of available tenements because of the shortage property owners raised rents 20 to 30 percent in the lower east

side where they can afford it most the asterns several hundred in the Jewish quarter hit the streets in protest landlords and they refused to pay their rent they were mostly garment workers and small businessmen and cannot afford the existing rent already between a quarter to a third of their income quote what is to become of the family whose sole breadwinner and 60 cents a day whose rent has been increased from 850 to $13 a month many lower East Siders felt they quote lived and worked for the landlord at least that's gone yeah well because of subprime mortgages yeah that's all over now you don't need to worry about and

our government takes care of us they say government have a you should as as a as an American you should have a place to live and then afford you a decent life they that's like in the Constitution I'm sorry I'm thinking of I believe Trump spilled Dr. Pepper on the Constitution right they help protest meetings and went on rent strikes and even picketed the homes of landlords they said if they were kicked out they would spread the word everywhere that no one would be allowed to move in okay they printed up cards in both Yiddish and English warning neighbors quote to keep away from the house at whatever blank street

sure the house is on strike because the rent is raised every month and we want to put a stop to it once and for all everyone keep away so they're you're gonna kick the shit out of people if they try to move it okay I like it I like this this is again just adding a little more spice to what's become a really I think a rent strikes a really interesting way to go I mean what better way to spend May 1st than getting your head beaten in with your own lamp imagine what what happened in this country if all renters were not a rent strike oh man oh the dream I'm having by 1905 the Times wrote that moving day

was a much better it was no longer mayhem quote modern methods have reduced the operation to a science a mover in the article said they could now move someone's possessions in one load but this was also because the subway was now in place okay so many people were able to move to the outer boroughs and avoid the nightmare of moving day so they were they were stuck in this area because they had no choice they had to go to work and then we get to work was to walk so now they have a subway now they can commute to work so they're less tied down and fucked by a landlord right this also made rents cheaper okay in

early 1918 landlords try to Jack I the only one who got turned on when you said tied down and fucked by a landlord I have a bar and anything move are you are you a rabbit to move okay okay in early 1918 landlords tried to jack up rates saying they had suffered through lean years during the war so World War one was hard no well that's why it's known as the landlord since wages and prices were going up they said they should be able to make more money there were more tenant protests then and strikes in early 1918 judges and politicians supported the strikers was shocked and angered the landlords and me I don't even well this

is a different time day obviously they were yeah not in the pocket to one Bronx owner quote tenants control our property move in and out of it as they please pay rent or withhold it as they please and treat the landlords well or ignore them as they please politicians seeking votes are now organizing disgruntled tenants to oppose the rights of landlords oh amazing I mean amazing the rights of landlords half of that gripe is so fantastic yeah you know they're just coming and going as they please while paying rent they want to be human but also it's like that's exactly what it is yeah you read forever no

because of the times moving day that year was now October 1st 1918 and the landlords tried to raise rents again thousands of renters prepared to resist many didn't have a choice because there were no apartments available and they were being threatened with a hike of 25 to 30 dollars a month which was up from 12 to 15 dollars the year before so they like fucking doubling the rent it's time Dave yeah Cartman are still a nightmare they charged someone as much as a week's wages to move the Times wrote quote how much of the furniture would reach its destination as furniture and how much would reach it as

firewood okay interesting in 1919 96,623 families faced eviction judges were now hearing several hundred cases a day so many that they had to introduce night court oh my god often a tenant will be allowed to pay his old rent for another month and then vacate because of this October 1st 1919 moving day was described as the most congested in New York history oh there were just 75,000 families in the Bronx and Manhattan change departments a paper quote this year they count themselves among the lucky if they have any place to go at all one Bronx Bronx judge wrote the large amount of eviction proceedings was

causing distress which made tenants easy prey for Bolsheviks and other radicals oh no oh god forbid these poor fucking people getting fucked get together and imagine oh not socialism they're discussing again the next year on April of 1920 New York State adopted emergency rent laws now if a tenant challenged the rent increase it was reviewed for a reasonableness cases increased during night that during late 1920 early 1921 and it became overwhelming a judge in the Bronx said it would take several years to hear all the cases and that the state was not hiring enough additional clerks and it did not have

enough courtrooms but nothing was done in 1925 the courts were clogged with rent cases when a tenant contested a rent increase he was assured of his old rent until the case was heard okay so I can go on for years like that but if the tenant lost he would have to pay the increase retroactive instead families would move right before it went to trial that's smart yeah landlords were encouraged to sue because they were assured the old rent so they're assured the old rent so they can sue people to get them out and then they can include legal costs so it's literally no loss for a landlord to sue a rentor right

no that there's no absolutely nothing against yeah so it's a little shit show in cases are piling on judges at some point decided to come up with their own solution so the judges all got together and they're like let's fucking fix this shit because the state is not okay they stopped landlords from bringing suits from far away which they were doing so they would so a person lives in Greenwich Village and they would file the suit out in Queens okay because it's hard for the tenant to travel it's a channel has to work right right so the tent now has to go to court and travel them yeah okay so they made they made

them charge wherever the building was they made them file the suit but he's now on the side of the tenant and the judges agreed that a reasonable rent would give the landlord an 8% profit of the market value of his property okay that's what so now they're like you can't double it or go crazy still that's fucking crazy yeah but I mean compared people probably like well finally some reasonable solutions and then World War two came men who worked in the moving industry were drafted to fight in the war the ones who remained in the US went to work in the defense industry making weapons making cars the moving industry

had no labor finally New York's started a red control program in 1943 and that's when moving day ended in 1943 moving day did not end in 1943 people are getting fucked relentlessly by landlords it does not end until there's no one left to move stuff right that's when it ends yeah up until then they're like yeah I just go and fuck people right that is three took a world war 320 years of moving day moving day of just fucking people and just an annual continuing nightmare nightmare that my friend is the free market and we love it you listen to the Libertarian Puggers the Libertarian Libertarian sorry Libertarian better wait lie I like to say lie

interesting that just it feels like a dig it is oh so at the end of World War two GIs vets flooded the city and the population of New York exploded again I was moving day been going oh you're not gonna believe it George gone we stopped the headline in 1945 was quote housing shortage a race is moving day hey you know we just got back from war yeah we're just covering real estate now front-page stuff moving day was done the new housing shortage forced the cities inhabitants to stay where they lived and with rent control they could moving day eventually faded from the memories of all New Yorkers man it's like traffic

laws but buildings it's just like I mean just you just like like no one has ever given a shit about people it's no it is you have to be like a hockey goalie like with the amount of blocking of like fucking that they're going to try to do of you it's just coming at you all the time yeah it's just any time you cut off one head there's another one pops up you cannot there's just you can't they're just greed is the strongest evil in the world today so and we're we're gonna start cutting it off after and just putting up the extra stuff we talked about on picture right dollop after dark or dollop after dark bye