The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 368 - Operation Wetback

Episode Date: March 12, 2019

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the treatment of Mexicans at the US border. SOURCESTOUR DATES OFFICIAL MERCH...

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Starting point is 00:00:48 a by Sickle. Coastal. By Coastal American History Podcast. Each week I lover of Dave Anthony. Lover of Dave Anthony reads a story from American history to his friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Boom. And called it quote his jam-packed. Jam-packed. I'm the fucking hippo guy. Steve okay. My name's Gary. Wait. Is it for fun. And this is not going to come to Tiggly Quad. Okay. And a five part coefficient. Now hit him with the puppy. You both present sick arguments. No sleep, no hippo. That's like no hippo. Action partner. Hi Gary. No. I sleep done my friend. No. No. Ro-inte. So we are the All Things Comedy Studio. If you want to watch video of this
Starting point is 00:01:46 podcast. If you want to watch this, go to the All Things Comedy YouTube page. What. What. What happens? Shut up. There's a love here. Don't touch, don't touch. Oh. I'm not touching it's not that kind of love Seven don't touch my I don't want to play footsie while we do that. It's great that the camera can't see that too. That's just for us, baby Go ahead Okay, come on 1798 yeah, you're our Lord Jesus Christ. That's right. That's here. He's born
Starting point is 00:02:24 The alien sedition acts were passed Oh dear the axe empowered the president to deport foreigners quote tape Dangerous to peace and safety of the United States without trial. So all of them Yeah, at that point. Yeah, it's a lot In the opinion of 1798, I mean there were 2019 I mean there were a lot of people that arrived, you know early, so we're we're a Colonial born at that point, right? Yeah. Yeah. No, we know how yeah, we understand that that lasts forever They would not be kicked out, but there's a lot. There's certainly a lot of people were
Starting point is 00:03:01 Yeah, aliens including the aliens. You know aliens We are from Spain started breeding. Yeah, sir. Pretty early They that's fine. Okay, they're it's bad. Nobody knows. That's also created a distinction that could deny non citizens The liberties the Constitution guaranteed to all so that's cool. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm during the 1800s Mexicans crossed freely into the United States for work. Okay, nobody cared. I was like cool. Come on over get work Yeah, it should be yep between 1904 and 1914 about a million Mexicans migrated into the United States. Okay Only a couple thousand per year were deported and they were mostly taken from asylums hospitals and jails Okay, so the the crazies the people that are sick and then and then the criminals
Starting point is 00:03:47 I mean the first two are like cool. I am in trouble walking. Well get out of here move When World War one started American men went to fight and then they needed people to work the fields and places So Mexicans were brought over so weird interesting. Yeah big demand for Mexican labor by the 1920s Mexicans were the main agriculture workers in the United States. Okay Around 62,000 workers legally or around a hundred thousand illegally. Okay, which is pretty sweet number. Yeah But in Mexico crops rotted in the fields because all the laborers had left, right? Okay, so that's a problem. Yeah What do you send? Who goes there?
Starting point is 00:04:32 Who goes to Mexico who rises up? Yeah. Oh, I don't yeah, they just were fucked. I mean, okay, so cool The 1921 emergency quota act, which you're a big favor a fan of and a favor of and a favor of And the 1924 act were the first truly national immigration laws Though they were built upon laws from 1800s. So in the 800s, I'd be like, let's just get rid of the Chinese, right? They'd specifically pick a like a country to be like fuck that, right? I'm like now and so then these ones they created like a Lot of go after every so like it handled everybody all the countries now. Is that better or is that like it's work? Okay, much more everything we do is more horrible, right? I just wanted to make sure because it sounds like it could be a way to be like no
Starting point is 00:05:17 We are actually have a focus on some categories, but it's that you met us. I met us. We're not great. I've been inside us So these new laws created a quota system that was overtly intended to establish a national and ethnic hierarchy You'd like ethnic hierarchy. What are we four minutes in? Arrivals from certain nations were welcome And people from other nations were not now. How are they defining these nations? Well, you can probably guess the ones they liked and the ones they didn't Mm-hmm. Was this based on say skin
Starting point is 00:05:56 Yes, yeah, of course After 1924 arrivals from Germany had an annual quota of over 51,000 Well, that's certainly also gonna help you be a little more open-minded towards other cultures Yeah, they have a strong history. Yeah, Great Britain 34,000 Uh-huh, Italy had a quota of less than 4,000. Hmm. So it's starting to It's weird because that they're okay. Well darker skin, right? That's sort of what I'm grease Turkey, Syria only got a hundred Hundred people people. Okay people people total. Okay There was no attempt to hide the white supremacy of the axe
Starting point is 00:06:38 Mexicans could continue to move freely across the border. So Western Hemisphere everyone's like you can we can keep coming in and out Right, it's all good South Carolina Senator Ellison do rant Smith. Let me guess asshole. Yes. Ah, yes On the Senate floor quote it seems to me The point as to this measure is that the time has arrived when we should shut the door. Thank God We have in America perhaps the largest percentage of any country in the world of the pure unadulterated Anglo-Saxon stock and it is for the preservation of that splendid stock
Starting point is 00:07:15 That has characterized us that I would make this not an asylum for all the oppressed of all the countries But a country to assimilate and perfect that splendid type of manhood So he said very eloquently just white white white white white In 1924 the border patrol was established. Okay It was under the Department of Labor It was focused on border smuggling for the most part. They also look for Chinese coming through Mexico. Sure Then in 1928 people began to focus on Mexicans coming across the border. Okay, and what year 1928, okay? It was time to argue to exclude Mexicans
Starting point is 00:08:01 Right. Yeah, Texas congressman John box quote boy. Here we go Every reason which calls for the exclusion of the most wretched ignorant dirty diseased and degraded people of Europe or Asia Demands that the illiterate unclean peonized masses moving this way for me nice peonized peonized Moving this way from Mexico be stopped at the border peonized. I don't know what that word means It's not a word that my My son you know the the app Understood. Yeah, so it's like an old word that they didn't but essentially the idea here is
Starting point is 00:08:43 Just I mean maybe a stronger definition of the downside of the non-white Which is now they're getting dirtier and filthier and more diseased and decrepit and wretched Like before like ten years ago. They were fine, but now they're now they're now. Yeah Well, yeah, I mean now but now but again, you've got to understand now America's got its groove back. Yeah, you know We know we look good in white. We're sassy. Yeah sassy and a white little outfit So this is a new turn for the US. I'm at all neck now Mexicans had not been villainized He went on well That's a fun time to harken back to isn't it when they who can who can remember? Yeah, so he goes on quote
Starting point is 00:09:21 Oh, good. I was gonna say don't stop another purpose of the immigration laws is the protection of American racial stock from further degradation or Change through mongrelization. Oh God Jesus Christ I honestly don't know what's better the openness or the hiding of it because now they hide it so much Yeah, and they get away with it. I mean I I don't like it when they say it, but it's kind of like wouldn't you rather know? Yeah, you'd rather know you'd rather like a frumpy like oh, I'm gonna. I hate this person. Yeah, instead of being like, huh? Yeah, he's got weird policies. That's right. There's something associated with all of them This blend of low-grade Spaniard talking. Yes
Starting point is 00:10:05 This great of low-grade this blend of low-grade Spaniard low-grade Spaniard like I didn't know that was like the bargain bin of Mexican it's the lower it's the Lower level and as I like to call them a half Spaniard the bottom quarter of Spaniard Pianized Indian and Negro slave mixes With mulatto's and other mongrels and some sorry. Hey, can we get that hook to put around his neck and yank him off the floor? And some sorry whites. Oh here comes the Sandman Are already here this nation has an influx of Sandman We need to get the Sandman out. They are sweeping people off stages left and right. Nobody knows what we're talking, okay?
Starting point is 00:10:51 The prevention of such mongrelization and the degradation it causes is one of the purposes of our laws Which the admission of these people will tend to defeat the Mexican peons are illiterate and ignorant Could you imagine just saying this? Don't stop, baby. We'll let you know we've heard enough Hey Bobby riff a little find it, baby. Find it. You're in the you're in the groove the zone, baby. Whoa Because of their unsanitary habits and living conditions Is this an hour he's doing and their vices they are especially subject to smallpox venereal diseases Tuberculosis and other dangerous. Well finally a little truth. Yeah, no for sure STD's
Starting point is 00:11:31 Definitely racial profile honor for sure A few of any other immigrants have brought us so large a proportion of criminals and poppers as they have the Mexican peons Yeah, well as usual you just have to say it and then a bunch of people will buy it. Yeah So look there They've they've been coming for a while right and they get some photos so obviously they come they're pretty poor. Mm-hmm. Yeah Mom they just hit a work
Starting point is 00:12:06 They don't have higher disease levels than other people. Oh, so that was fabrication. Yeah, interesting So this narrative that is being said by politicians starts getting picked up by prominent writers Like Roy Garris of the Saturday Evening Post America's Yeah, where you go for informative debate. Who's the guy does the paint the pictures? Oh Bob Ross. No Oh, what? Oh, yeah, the classic American the family circus stuff. No, he didn't Fuck Picasso No, so someone is screaming at home. And so we're not gonna say it because that'll even make them crazier Should we just play or should we guess? It's like a classic American painter guy that does like these
Starting point is 00:12:45 No, let's not say it. So people yell it yell it on day card day card That's right. Oh, it's Monet So he so this writer for Saturday Saturday Evening Post he wrote articles titled we must be on our guard And the Mexican invasion You know, it is a pretty refined system where Politicians just lie to stoke fear and then Riders give them a microphone interesting
Starting point is 00:13:15 By the way, can I show you something? Yeah You seen these? Oh my god, what the fuck did you do? Is there just socks with your face on them? What the fuck is wrong with you? Why would you have you saw that Instagram ad too, right? I'm a big fan of yours. That's the worst thing anyone's ever done The Great Depression came Okay, and then the Dust Bowl. Oh good. We're hitting a good record. Mexicans were now The bad guys taking Americans jobs. Yeah, so before they're dirty. Now. They're stealing jobs. Yeah a push came to deport Mexicans Herbert Hoover kicked off
Starting point is 00:13:53 the Mexican Repatriation program in 1929. So you've got right you got poor like these they lived in really I mean, it's just a house made out of like, yeah, cardboard. Yeah So the repeat patriation program is With the next 10 years at least a half a million Mexicans and Mexican Americans were deported to Mexico. Okay, Mexican Americans also Okay Some say it was high as two million In 1934 the border patrol switched to smuggling
Starting point is 00:14:28 Switch from smuggling to immigration control. So now the border patrol is no longer about labor. Now it is Uh, law enforcement, right? So before as it was set up not this before it was on the lookout for crime And now it's on the lookout for Mexicans. Yeah, now it's now it's law enforcement, which is really great It's good. So we're starting to see the bullshit bolts tighten a little bit in the machine So here's some guys being repatriated. Um, they were held without food and water for two days You know, I I do this is more I do mean Uh, I do miss the time when this is this show these stories were not relevant
Starting point is 00:15:10 How is this relevant? Oh, yeah So that's just all those are all people going through the bus station or train station to get out of America, right? Well, we'll all be there soon. That's the goodness. So the border patrol starts conducting raids City of Los Angeles and charities paid to send the repatriados back by train A witness quote they put all the people in boxcars instead of inside the trains They were here Uh, they were in here legally, but the moral part of it like separation and putting them in boxcars I'll never forget for as long as I live
Starting point is 00:15:42 Up to half the repatriados may have been us citizens So, I mean just doesn't matter. No, right Um, I so I read that people got kicked out of the country and then later on You'll see that we invite them back in and they came and learned they were u.s citizens They didn't even know because they got kicked out when they were kids and they were never told wow So they come back and discover they're actually Americans so That's so it's like good and awful
Starting point is 00:16:14 Oh, great. I'm a citizen of a country that did that Fuck this Then came world war two So in 1940 the border patrol was transferred to the state department and became national security So as you can see it's it's working its way up, isn't it? Yeah. Yeah, it's working its way up this little this this Archbacked monkey is learning to slowly walk and point Um, so again world war two happens. So what happens in war the americans go to fight when the americans are just That's when we're like, hey
Starting point is 00:16:49 Hey you guys Hey, yeah, that's what you know. That's when you take Lloyd Dobbler's boombox and you're like, I'm so sorry Like that thing where I was uh, I was punching you in the face. Yeah. Yeah pissing on you. Uh-huh, right. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that was a citizen. Yeah, and I was a citizen. Did you know that I didn't know that? Yeah Yeah, so I could use your help. Oh, yeah, it's so weird. You have a war now. Yeah. No. Well, you know Oh, that's weird and then is this forever helper this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's forever. Yeah, it's a hypothetical situation The war ends. Yeah, you and I are still cool. We're bros. We're bros super for life. Yeah, right There's nothing nothing gonna break us apart the war ended yesterday
Starting point is 00:17:27 Get the fuck out of my country. That was a lie to you. I was kidding It's that joke guys dude. Hey, how how why don't people go to learn that america's just a funky punk like prank show Like we're just having a little fun That's what america needs to do more point to a camera. That's not there. We're goofing. Okay. It's america. Hey smile Well, it's pranked Okay, so Repatriation ends because the war's on right Mexican workers come back to the u.s. But this is hurting Mexican agriculture again because all the workers are gone
Starting point is 00:18:03 Crops start rotting in the field in Mexico So now Mexico needs a way to slow the laborers from moving into the united states Here we go And the two countries came up with the mexican farm labor agreement or the bracerro program. Okay Bracero means manual labor Uh under the agreement, Mexico would let certain laborers work in the u.s. Short term In exchange, we would tighten our border security so Mexico would have enough laborers to work in their farm So it's basically letting in an amount of legal workers
Starting point is 00:18:37 And and tightening down on the illegal workers. Right. That's that's the idea and but the legal worker status is temporary Yes So if you're a legal, I mean, I if you're a legal worker, essentially, it's just kind of like for lack of a better term You're just trying to get cash. Yeah, like you're just trying to make as much and then you probably will be summer job, right? Okay, yeah So braceros are young single men Uh, well, okay. Yep. There's some braceros Um, they got medical screenings to get in so to get in you had to get a medical screening
Starting point is 00:19:14 Oh, uh, you were this photo, you know pictures like this don't ever age well It's a bunch of dudes with their shirts off getting uh, like yeah needles in them like, all right Well, all right, you go to the left of the good mexicans and then to the right of the bad mexican. All right, sir Sorry, you're gonna have to go to the right go to the right and we've got a left You get three months of your dream Living the dream. Give us your tired. You're poor. You're hungry till august. That's what we say Um, of course they were uh, you know de laos Um, gotta do last humans
Starting point is 00:19:53 With DDT with DDT. It's good for you Um, well that anybody who's getting sprayed with DDT is a short-term worker. No, I think that's what's in gatorade No, no, no my friend. Yeah, that's electrolytes. Oh My bad. Um, so the photograph strip de laos, uh, the whole deal Um, then they're delivered to farms in the us delivered delivered, um They're the employee their employees of the u.s. Government. So they're it's done through the government and you like I think rent them from the government Uh, it's a cool thing
Starting point is 00:20:27 Anyway, it doesn't go well if you can imagine what part was bad. Well surprisingly the braceros are not treated well Oh, yeah, I've saw I saw the pictures Farmers didn't like all the paperwork they had to do and the rules they preferred it when they could just hire a dude who was here Yeah without documents for sure um Farmers lobbied congress to cut border patrol funding so undocumented workers could cross right And mexicans with families needed work, right? So the braceros are all single dudes, right? So that leaves out the guys who have a family, which is probably tons of people, right? You got to feed your family
Starting point is 00:21:03 Um, so those guys had to come illegally, right? So they've created this hierarchy Right, so unions got mad at that and unions got mad at the braceros in america But and they and the illegal workers. They're also mad at or no The unions. Yeah, they're mad at everybody. Okay, right, right? Um, but they're mad at the government for doing this, right? Uh, and then rumors start that uh in america amongst americans that braceros had tons of rights Sometimes more than americans. Sure super rights. Yeah, it's like the hov lane, but uh when you have one passenger I love that. That's like the classic like just well, do you hear the news is they're getting super rise
Starting point is 00:21:43 Yeah, like they're allowed to do it. They vote five times. Do you know that they can vote when they're 15? Five times any state they want they even got to be a resident Yeah, sounds right What's your deal? You're just not a chatterbox, huh? It's a little I I just believe everything you say Well, I'll tell you that's the thing. You know when they go shopping they get two times many they buy a bag of groceries And then they go here's a duplicate same price. God super rights. Okay. That's what they get. God damn. All right God, they can marry as many women as they want. Hell. I seen one of them. He married two goats. They got super rights That's not a yeah married two goats. That doesn't seem like I told them one stands on the other one's backs
Starting point is 00:22:26 They can kiss. Why would you want to marry one goat? Well, exactly. That's what I'm saying. That's why you get two or two Well, the two is more than one you twice the fun. I don't want to talk to you twice the goat marriage You can keep it spicy in the barn room The barn room. Yeah, are you talking about the barn? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but that's you know, where you sleep couple them These guys are banging goats I don't think you know Man, you ain't read read up on super rides dumbass. What I what I read up on super rides
Starting point is 00:22:58 They got a pitchfork with five prongs. Yeah, that's two prongs two plenty So I'm gonna I'm gonna go out. I'm wrecking and say you don't know what's better than other stuff You understand, you know, they're getting additional hands attached to their hands again. This is not this is not a thing That's good. Absolutely. Yep. They're kids when they put their kids in school. They're allowed to teach the white kids Imagine that the whole world's gone types of turvy. This country used to be about whites Now it's about super rides Whoa, I think I just invented the bumper sticker There's no cars. Oh
Starting point is 00:23:34 That was another failed concept Um, so very expensive for braceros. They had to pay bribes Um, to get into the programs in terms that in mexico, they had to pay and then they had to pay to travel They had to go to mexico city first to get get tested there and then come to us and get tested They also couldn't leave camps in us. They're put into camps here Um, they had to pay right time to change the name. Yeah Um, for they they were on a play place. They played company food lodging and tools and blankets. They got to pay for everything Which is all supposed to be free, but then they got charged
Starting point is 00:24:10 Uh braceros started striking one farmer quote. We used to buy our slaves now. We rent them from the government Hey, we'll be right back Uh right back after this I feel uncomfortable Oh, wow, but they're all happy when they're when they're getting their picture taken and taken off for work Right or they knew what was coming. Right, right um in uh 1948 the braceros stopped being us government employees and became employees of the farmers, okay
Starting point is 00:24:40 Then the us opened the border again to let in undocumented workers because farms needed more workers Which undermined the agreement with mexico completely It's like when someone's like in a relationship that's wonky and then like so that's on again off again And when it's off again, they're out partying and just fucking everything, but then a week later like i'm engaged Sorry, things have changed. I'm sorry stop texting me. Yeah I'm different now. Yeah Uh, so yeah Uh braceros started leaving their shitty working conditions and going to work on farms which made technically them now
Starting point is 00:25:16 Now they're here illegally, right Um under the braceros agreement The us was supposed to return undocumented workers to mexico where they would be given physicals fingerprint fingerprinted photographed and given a work permit And then return to the us Wait explain that again. They're supposed to go back to mexico. So if uh So if they if they find it if the us finds an undocumented worker, right? Oh, right, okay Then you go back to the processing department. Yes, you go through your shirtless line Where someone puts a needle in your arm. That's probably dirty your deal. I was then then yeah ship back, right? Okay
Starting point is 00:25:53 And sometimes back to the exact farm you were on right? Right, okay. See there's a couple guys just got their permits. Uh-huh But yeah, so the future so what I got to wear shades now the undocumented Were called wetbacks because they swam across the Rio Grande River now wetbacks Was a term used by both friend and foe. So it was just the term for for undocumented people It's nice to see agreement finally in the country. So people who supported them and like helped them out
Starting point is 00:26:27 Called them wetbacks and people who didn't like so it was just a way to describe them, right? There was no derogatory connotation right people were um If you can thankfully if you can imagine with the term wetback Yeah, no no something about that definitely is not cool But the people who like I mean, yeah, but that but that isn't that isn't that our culture Isn't that the white culture in America one where it's just like even if you're embracing? Another race the bar has been set so low that really
Starting point is 00:26:57 It doesn't really matter what you say. I mean you can say anything, you know true The trip uh into the u.s. Was dangerous and many died Um, they became easy prey for criminals. They had a difficult time finding houses some lifting holes covered with tarps some lived in caves irrigation ditches or tree groves Jesus diseases spread because they wouldn't go Yeah, I mean that's self-fulfilling. Yeah, if a person is not uh, it's not here legally
Starting point is 00:27:27 They're gonna be afraid to go to the doctor if if you make people sleep in trees They're probably less safe and healthy Um, they became uh, they got blamed for increases in crime And yet still no penalties for a farmer who hired them right weird imagine that well, it's nice We get to have our racist cake and eat it too um Soon the u.s. Was doing what was uh, okay, so undocumented workers so
Starting point is 00:27:55 They were first they were being arrested and then sent to mexico to the mexico city and they had to go through the process And they get sent back And then we started going with a shortcut. So the shortcut was you'd arrest an undocumented worker Take him to the border make him put his toes across the border And then pronounce him a brisero and bring him back So basically border suicides. It's not suicide. It's no suicides like when you got to run the lines in gym clothes Oh, yeah, yeah, we just got to cross one and then run back. Yeah, it's yeah So, huh, I mean Dave think this is normal. Well, I just think that if that is I mean if that's what the law is
Starting point is 00:28:35 Maybe it's a little goofy Hey get out of here you illegal better. Yeah, it's fucking amazing. So that's gotta get paperwork done So that's out now. It's just 1949 the vast majority of briseros had gone through the toe tipping border ceremony which became called Oh Boy drying out the wetback. Oh god. What so way to lean in? Shit What New York Times is nobody is nobody going like hey, this is crazy. It's all bad
Starting point is 00:29:16 Uh, New York Times, uh, quote the typical wetback can be described only as a mexican and a man Oh What he may be an illiterate illiterate peasant from chihuahua resembling with his straw hat Serape, yeah, Serapa and sandals one of poncho vie's followers He may be a relatively sophisticated unemployed industrial worker from mexico city The wetback brings all kinds of contraband with them from drugs and parrots to venereal disease Uh, I first of all the order of your concern list is bananas You know, they brought parents. They've got syphilis parents disease vermin. Sorry
Starting point is 00:30:01 Yeah, this the second one you said disease. No the one before that disease uh, they've got syphilis Parents no that one disease. Yeah, they got disease the second one between disease and venereal Well, do you want me to be more? Are you asking me to be more specific with the diseases the bird one? You said a bird you said a bird. They don't have a bird disease No, no, you said I got the parent birds on their shoulders and they got their disease diseases No, the parrot that one a parent of course their parents the parents are coming across with their kids Right and the kids got little baby parrots now. I do my valid point
Starting point is 00:30:43 Parrots I mean we are Is at any I mean at what point are you like? Hey, this feels like bullshit when people are creating parrot phobia You got to be on the alert for parrots because parrots come here and they take your eyes That's true. Take your fucking eyes. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, I can't see but then also the idea that uh, you know, the new york time like The it's just with the media They are
Starting point is 00:31:09 It's just never been good never been good never been helpful never been valid like never never You know leaning into the bullshit. They're there to escort you along the bullshit path set by the politicians Yeah, I mean I might have to do an episode on venezuela just because of the insane lives Well, I think unfortunately Dave, I'm gonna have to push back here a little bit because in the united states our history of invading other Countries to help name one that's gone poorly. Oh, I can't thank you They're uh, so so different places are like they are costing tons of money, right? Because they're bringing parrots and venereal disease in that order In the 50s everyone parrots got eight in the Jesus. Could you imagine a syphilitic parrot?
Starting point is 00:31:56 Rack burns when I peek Rack my beak is falling off In the 50s everyone in the us became terrified of communism And concluded that if mexicans could walk across the border so could commies It is nicer when the boogie man is just a belief system versus a human skin color It's but it's just I mean, it's absolutely dumb as shit exactly the same as but it's dumb as shit But at least then people like you can't see him. That's the bad thing about communism. It hides under any race Headlines Mexico center of red spy ring in hemisphere
Starting point is 00:32:36 It's nice that they found a connection. So that's right. Nice brief period of non Wetbacks cited as aids to mobs and subversion uh alien influx perils nation senate told Uh by who the parrot the well the the the commies could come through the south through the alien. Yeah, that's right so but the The border patrol was still understaffed Underfunded and had little motivation A border patrol officer complained trying to stop the influx was quote like trying to bail out the ocean with a bucket
Starting point is 00:33:11 We'll get there In 1950 the un accused the uf uf uf the in 1950 united fox The united fox the 1950 the un accused the us of tolerating slave labor on a wide scale Owners were giving immigrants work not paying them and then calling the border patrol to deport them. Well Yeah, so I mean, I mean all I can say with after hearing that is a capitalism sounds great. Hmm The new york times wrote about the immigrants quote California jobs going to mexicans in areas have huge idle roles The article said 50 000 mexicans were quote swarming central california
Starting point is 00:33:55 You hear that they're coming They're in a formation the liberal their vision is based upon movement stands still The secretary of the el central Central labor council quote the wetbacks are infiltrating nearly all branches of labor union. Good god Um, but they were needed the imperial valley farmers association association said only mexicans could do the hard farm work in temperatures over 100 Degrees these people also just happen to be the cheapest to pay who could also be easily abused a farm worker Explained that mexicans and filipinos were suited to farm work and white laborers were quote too revolutionary in other words
Starting point is 00:34:37 Revolutionary meaning they want to be done at four or wine. Yeah, they want to eight hour a day And they want a good day Yeah, and and the other people are desperate for work so I can take advantage of them When asked about all the reports of abuse of mexican immigrants a local Immigration chief said quote actually I think our men give excellent treatment for the most part They pick up wetbacks baggage and collect their wages for them I mean and he's on the side. I mean he's in the role of trying to Help no, I think he's the he's the immigration
Starting point is 00:35:12 Like ian s guy. He's not trying to help anybody. There's no help happening Good good good The presidential fact finding finding commission on migratory labor was created It concluded immigrant workers were controlled and relieved of their wages through drugs liquor and prostitution The commission blamed low wages and social ills on illegal immigration quote The magnitude has reached entirely new levels in the past seven years. It is virtually an invasion. Yeah I mean virtually sure. I mean if if your Your version of an invasion is people coming to work for you. Yeah, like if virtual means not real
Starting point is 00:35:48 Like I I like if you go to target at seven in the morning every morning is an invasion Oh, yeah, all these people come in sure and they work. Yeah, and then and then they leave night. It's like a daily invasion Yeah, and we should have seen it coming. I mean they called themselves target. That's right. That's right pretty obvious. God damn a presidential oh, I did that um So a texas legislator said can we just start calling them shitheads? Aggregation was necessary. Yes because good good to get that back in the verbiage We just can't have all those dirty possibly disease people swimming with our wives and children Oh my god swimming. Yeah. Well, if you if you they have waterborne diseases
Starting point is 00:36:31 Yeah, we they this comes off of them in the water under water polio. That's right. Look out It swims right through your pee hole That's how they get you The polio is a little worm when you least expect it you're swimming And it goes right up into your pee hole Okay, think about it your dick is a disease straw that's constantly sucking under there and they're shooting little Polio harpoons right up your cock hole into your belly. So doctor. I just wanted a flu shot Oh, sorry. That is the line on the left. Uh, this is uh disease phobia
Starting point is 00:37:09 Sorry, I should have been clear. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Sorry. Thank you. All right. Now. What do you want to be freaked out about? My butthole. Well, let me tell you something. They're coming in there illegally, too Oh Mexican He an idiot. What line are you supposed to be in? Oh, I don't I'm just here flu shot. No, I'm killing time. My wife's here for therapy That's all I need. Well, there's no one else in line. So you and I can have a little diatribe And that's where I talk and you shut up. I don't want to do any of this. They're coming through your pee hole
Starting point is 00:37:43 Okay, gotta go I've invented a swimming trunk. Do you have are you do you have friends or anything? I had one. Uh-huh. And he died When you die, yeah, well Some polio went right up his I think you know polio works Isn't that when people are throwing the balls? Nope. That's water polio. No, it's an olympic sport It's not an olympic sport. Oh polio is when um
Starting point is 00:38:12 You uh, usually your child my wife left your legs stop. She's taking the house. Okay All right I'm gonna go, uh, is there anything else you want to talk about this last stuff. I want to talk about So the uh, I should skedaddle. All right, it'll be a hundred dollars. Is she ready to start? Sorry, I forgot where I was that love our roleplay. Yeah, it's absolutely right Oh, all right. I'll see you Tuesday dr. Spiro Or just use talk space and you can reach me that way. What? And uh, 1951 the new york times published a long five-part series titled the wetback problem
Starting point is 00:38:51 Hey, new york times paper of record. Keep thriving liberal paper of record the premier liberal paper in the country Mm-hmm while acknowledging, uh, this was traffic and trafficking of human beings The series explained quote it has lately been realized that the wetback traffic offers a wide open avenue for communist spies to enter the country I mean, first of all at what point is somebody going to say wetback is a disgusting term It doesn't happen to like the 60s Yes, well, no, it's trying and no, I take that back. I think it's starting to happen now. I think but the new york times are still getting close to it I yeah, I know
Starting point is 00:39:34 Everyone's pretty into it be great if journalists led it's the early 50s. So everyone's pretty fucking happy using it Um, there is no public record of any having been caught lately But immigration officers officers acknowledge that every year at least a handful of europeans some of them with communist backgrounds are netted among the wetbacks and that In in fact, joseph stalin might adopt a perfunctory disguise and walk into the country this way Yep, for sure. You don't know and david you're laughing and I just I wish you'd take it a little seriously because We all remember the stalinitos uh
Starting point is 00:40:11 Cross ii mean can we Times that stalin might come into the southern border, please can we Can we at least at some point have a scenario where stalin has to pretend to pretend? You take my from Caracas it is a small village. My family is a pumpkin farmer and we are all uh Pumpkin and crockers southern they mix in the area small I raised by a one russian mother who I love She also makes you can and then uh, you know Your accent's getting weird because my father's name is a pepe and he is my papa and I uh
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yes, we make a living. You know, you can drink water out cactus. Yes. I showed my grandpa He uh, take me during quinceanera We go to my niece's quinceanera. Yeah Get a bunch of things of carne asada tacos. It's uh, where we're from in Mexico. It's my name is stalinito I heard the phrase that we use here. Yes, of course. I'm familiar with everything stalin was a bitch Why would a man say something like that about the leader of another country? I have no direct association with but I'm obviously have great respect for men You know anyone who rise to that rank. Yeah, clearly would like and men would love to see america
Starting point is 00:41:30 But he will do it legally if he do it. I mean I know style. I know I don't know stalin But I know stalin to be men of integrity. Anyway, my family is In lineages strong roots in caracas and that is where my family is from You're free to come in Uh, so to deal with the problem the u.s. Decided to fly Uh undocumented people out of the country The idea being that taking them deeper into mexico would make it harder for them to return So they've been taking just across the border now. They're gonna fly him deeper in right. Yeah. No, that's the problem
Starting point is 00:42:05 It's the proximity. It's yeah, these were known as the wetback airlifts Can I get a bucket to throw up in? um A headline from the monitor quote 60 scared wet black wet 60 scared wetbacks fly first airlift together all together 34,026 mexican workers were flown to the interior of mexico the flights ended after a few months quote The flights were halted because officers ran out of wetbacks to deport. Oh my god. It's just this It's good times. I mean, why even land, you know what I mean? Just toss them
Starting point is 00:42:45 I think that would be a little that really shake the foundation of this movement. Yeah In march 1952 a new law was passed the ins could now search property without a warrant within 25 miles of the border Well, good. I mean, it's nice to see, you know intelligent policy finally rising to the top Anyone helping? Undocumented immigrants would be charged with a felony, but employing them was fine and not a crime Boy, you really really really really wonder what the fuck the plan is don't you? Well, it's just so like it's just so fucking insanely transparent. Yeah, I mean, but it's it's yeah
Starting point is 00:43:23 I mean, you're just like if you if you if you put them up in your house, then you get a felony But if you give them work, yeah, and then now you're fine. No, honey. It's like I said when I'm at home We're married and anytime I leave I do whatever the hell I want No, because I took a vow. Yeah. Yeah. I owe that to the marriage I get it. You're a great guy June 1952 more legislation The evening monitor quote president Truman has placed his stamp of approval on a wetback Concentration camp for the valley. Okay. Well, let's just if that headlines topped let's talk
Starting point is 00:44:01 Because what just happened? When he signed legislation authoring the justice department to byland and construct buildings to house aliens awaiting deportation Sound familiar? Yeah Airlifts started again The evening monitor quote what when when Truman did it were the parents allowed to be around the children? Uh
Starting point is 00:44:28 Yeah, no, they kept they tried to keep them they tried to keep families together So they made an attempt to keep families together. So our policy used to make I think more sense maybe The evening monitor quote the circus hasn't come to the valley yet this summer, but operations squander the airbag lift Sorry, the wetback lift Uh The wetback air lift three two. Yeah is already with us and it may be more entertaining than three rings under the big top. Well There was talk in the upper valley Saturday of organizing a bus and private automobile motorcade for a trip to brownsville
Starting point is 00:45:06 to permit taxpayers to see firsthand the operation of the immigration services deportation by air of mexican farm laborers My god Just soulless. Hey, honey, uh, so this weekend. I was thinking we could go down and watch uh, a bunch of mexicans They had to pour it on an airplane. Oh, that'd be nice. I'll make sandwiches. Let's make a date. Yeah, it was a date That's a date to me the carnival is always fun. Yeah, I've been on every one of those
Starting point is 00:45:33 Let's watch people let's watch people suffer and get on a plane Well, I mean and you say it but the reason why it's okay is because we will never suffer so we have no realm of comparison or understanding Yeah, compassion was drained from us when we decided skin color was the determination of rights. That's right. That's right. Oh, man Oh, I love you. I love you, too. You're good. You're good woman. I'm so glad you're white. Stop it. Okay. I love you so turned on by what we're gonna do Saturday. Let's get clams before let's get all clammed up and then let's go watch them suffer
Starting point is 00:46:09 It'll be great because again because there's no way it'll happen to us. It's fantastic We're invincible because we came here and took everything Love you so much buttercup The Morningstar newspaper held a contest you find quote the most fitting names for the wet back airlift No, what? Gotta have a contest Gotta have a contest my man. What are you? What is it? What is your problem? It's the ripple effect is my problem
Starting point is 00:46:38 Yeah, quote today's last day to send in names Uh to the valley Morningstar Racist hurry get moving now will come the job of going through the huge piles of cards and letters to select the winners That's right. It's going to be a real dimpler chad situation when it comes to these the winner. They picked operation outrage Yeah Which the paper only used from that on that was their new name for it cool in Mexico. There was less excitement Oh, and what grounds where they're not having as much fun
Starting point is 00:47:11 The newspaper another that is said texas had a concentration camp quote which yields nothing To the nazi prisoner of war camps in the way of cruelty baseness and inhumanity A mexican reporter visited the camp. It was surrounded by barbed wire and patrolled by texas rangers quote Our fellow countryman packed like cattle lie on the ground in the open air exposed to the burning rays of the sun by day And torrential rains by night He said there were wetbacks and braceros whose contacts had expired Quote whippings clubbings and other punishment are the rule for those who protest In june 1952 construction of camps and airlifts stopped when congress did not renew funding
Starting point is 00:47:57 So the border patrol began shipping people out by train 2000 per week Um, so that's good, right? Yeah, it's super chill and cool and good and fine and cool and chill Yeah, um, I think I have a picture of a camp here. Maybe I don't That one right there above that. No, that's that's or something else. Um, it's good to see that it's gonna get better Get it. Yeah, so the rhetoric continues 1953 the ins commissioners said there was a quote human tide of wetbacks Oh my god
Starting point is 00:48:35 He said they came and then told their family members to come because everything was so great here Yeah, no for sure. How good it seems like the americans are awesome super strong They'd want to stay in their little village An assistant commissioner of the border patrol called this quote the greatest peacetime invasion ever complacently suffered by any country How is it? How is the marketing still working if you use the word invasion for Immigrants coming here. You're a racist and who are Who are essential to the farming community essential? And so if you want to have capitalism you can't have it without
Starting point is 00:49:14 Quote illegal immigrants. How does capital? I mean really? How does it get away with it? It is just like greed just is able to suck up anything it wants and shit out what it doesn't because nobody cares Well, that's fun I mean the left cares, but nobody else cares like the super left cares, but liberals are fine with this system That's generally you know for sure Um, or else they would be throwing fits, right? You'd be like no pay them better and treat them better Well, it's what it's what happens when the uh left shifts to the center. Yeah, which is far, right So
Starting point is 00:49:55 the u.s. Attorney general quote An uncontrolled wave of crime Remindful of the prohibition era is sweeping the southwest in the wake of the illegal entry of hundreds of thousands of alien mexicans across the border So they're whipping everyone up again, right? So april 1953 trains and planes gave way to a new plan Called the quote hot foot lift The idea here was to take uh deported people 15 miles south of the border into mexico Into an isolated desert spot that was deliberately selected because they would have to walk a long distance in over 100 120 degree heat
Starting point is 00:50:38 They had no they were they had their food taken away They have their water taken away that even with all that the farmers are dependent on White people are still the best at picking cherries They had their food taken away and they had their water taken away, uh shelter sometimes clothing the Uh la times called it a death march It was designed to be so to make them terrified to return. It's unfamiliar Some reporters tried to follow but could only make it one mile before they had to stop
Starting point is 00:51:10 But one reporter said it was it was like being burned through his clothes. That's how hot it was In 1953 after another study reported undocumented workers were driving up costs of police hospitals and other other social services President eisenhower's attorney general a general toured california and then pushed congress to crack down the billings gazette quote president eisenhower authorized attorney general herbert brownell junior to use all resources Of the federal government to stem the ever-increasing tide of wetbacks entering this country illegally from mexico california governor pat brown a democrat said undocumented mexican immigrants brought murder prostitution And robbery and a quote gigantic narcotics infiltration. He called them a malignant growth
Starting point is 00:51:59 So that's the democrat Super cool liberal eisenhower. What's right? What is right of that and this is when democrats were far more. I know. Yeah. No, they were actually left Eisenhower's attorney general herbert brownell junior had some ideas. Oh good. I was just gonna say let's hear more from this guy He asked the army to do mass roundups of undocumented workers, but they passed because they're not allowed to do that Constitution thing. Well, it wasn't a national emergency at the time. That's right And then he pushed for the defense department to pay 10 million dollars to build a hundred and fifty mile fence along the border To which they said no
Starting point is 00:52:35 At an international labor meeting brownell said quote one method of discouraging wetbacks would be to allow the border patrol to shoot Some of them. Yeah, no, and that finally like I was just waiting for some reasonable policy That's right. Now now we're getting to a place where we can actually have a conversation Yeah, now we we've met in the middle. Look, we've learned from our mistakes And we're now starting to put out some rational thoughts of policy now we're now a little bit of a selected Murder is just sort of you know Did I mention this guy's the attorney general of the united states of america? Oh, that's why it's valid The ianist commissioner was joseph jumpin joe swing. Let me guess asshole
Starting point is 00:53:17 Ex-general he was a quote professional longtime mexican hater He had fought against poncho via as a young man as a retired army general He brought military organization to the border patrol, which it really needed. That's what the border patrol really needed It was military organization a little more muscle. Yep So swing thought his mission was a quote direct attack upon the hordes of aliens facing us across the border Hordes of aliens Yep
Starting point is 00:53:49 Twilight zone realities Harlan b. Carter was promoted by swing to director of field operations Carter had joined the border patrol in 1936 three years After he was released from prison for committing a murder Oh, Jesus Carter told I mean people are like it was worse. It was better than no. It wasn't no. Yeah, it turns out it wasn't Carter told the los angeles times quote. It's the playbook an army
Starting point is 00:54:18 Yeah, it is actually the playbook Carter told the los angeles times quote an army of border patrol officers Complete with jeep's trucks and even aircraft would wage an all-out war to hurl mexican wetbacks into mexico Hurdles a cool way. So, yeah, put them in the catapult. Yeah, that's right So brown ale Carter brown ale Carter and swing would lead the government's new immigration operation Good. It's time for them to get in charge on june 10 1954 swing announced That operation wetback would begin on june 17th So the saturday evening monitor was like, oh
Starting point is 00:54:57 Why didn't you enter our contest? We just had an amazing competition You could have won an umbrella So operation wetback was to be a mass deportation event, but it was mostly for show It was a pr move And the media went for it and hyped it up. Hey, i'm gonna go drown myself in a pond See you man Employers were warned to fire undocumented
Starting point is 00:55:26 immigrants and hire Bussaneros instead Meanwhile the mexican so that program is still going on The bar scenario program where you bring them over and hire them and all that Meanwhile, the mexican government didn't understand why this was being done The up quote mexican officials friday expressed bewilderment for u.s plans to deport through el paso texas and Juarez They explained they would have to return them to their hometown so sending them through specific areas just put more of a burden on the mexican government Yeah, but again, i mean hey not too shit's given. Yeah, no, no, no, this is america
Starting point is 00:56:00 We throw our peanut shells on the ground at every bar The border patrol was not actually a very large force at the time it was uh So on the first night of operation wetback carter had agents drive vehicles. Tell you still not getting more comfortable with the operation title It's still sort of yeah It had it had an official title that was different, but the ins used this and so did all the press So why the fuck would I use the official time? Well, I mean we still are using wetback in this time So it's sort of like let's you know get our ducks in a row um
Starting point is 00:56:34 So carter had agents drive vehicles repeatedly through mcallin texas all night so it appeared A huge group of border patrol are arriving. So they were just fucking doing circles Like they were all arriving all night long But the actual number was uh small the raids began on the first day raids started at 7 a.m They hit street corners factories brickyards industrial plants in private homes and roadblocks all over california western arizona 500 people were arrested in los angeles The la times headline it says 500 napped by la wetback raiders
Starting point is 00:57:16 Well, yeah Um, so that's cool. It's cool. The raiders are back in la though. The raiders are back in la The border patrol was helped by the sheriff's office the la pd The california highway patrol and the state department of employment Buses were stationed around city jails and when full They would then take them uh take people to camps. So the buses waited and then when they got full of people They'd taken the camps and the new buses would arrive empty greyhound buses Uh, the border patrol knew that they were being watched by the media and were on their best behavior
Starting point is 00:57:55 Um, they were embedded the journalists were embedded with the border patrol. So they became chamois with them and Um, the reporters wrote about how awesome and professional the border patrol were Newspapers ran stories with photos of border patrol agents in spiffy uniforms as they looked at maps while Planning operations. Yeah, so look and by the way, if you got a cool photo, who cares about the reality just Yeah, exactly. You know, oh man, that's just Dynamite a couple border patrol guys were shot at what did we hit about al-qaeda pointed the back of some And isis isn't it the is another another one like some guys got caught in a boat crossing the Rio Grande And they've they just got them with the guns on them. This is a photo shoot. It's a photo shoot. Yeah, it's like a vanity fair photo shoot
Starting point is 00:58:41 That's why they brought the press so that they would get these shots that would look awesome on newspaper Yeah, but there's just a part of you that I mean, it's just like two embers left in the fire where you're like Maybe the media would say no A photo op of this nature Uh, californians cooperated Everyone was on board the los angeles. Please quote rendered assistance far in excess of what could be expected Is it amazing too that in california like people do? consider them like there is a uh an air of
Starting point is 00:59:16 superiority when it comes to understanding and compassion and yet the reality is California is just in the bag as everywhere else and just ready and willing to be a fear Mongering hate state just like everywhere else. That's right Uh, so ianis phones were overwhelmed as the american public turned snitch en masse I think we I mean, i'm not sure if he's one, but i'm like 90 percent california newspapers reported positively on the rage los angeles times Uh, quote an army of border patrolmen complete with jeep's trucks and seven aircraft will begin moving into el centro today
Starting point is 00:59:54 Dispersing their forces for an all out war to hurl tens of thousands of mexican wetbacks back into mexico We are liberal hollywood. Get them out A wire fence security camp to hold 100 men was built Elysian park the one near elysian park. Yeah, so that's that those guys are at elysian park That's where we uh drive by uh often. It looks like it's in a parking lot. No, it's in grass. Anyway, that's nice It's actually better than some of the other ones um Papers all surround photos of workers held in crude holding pens set up in parks
Starting point is 01:00:31 Um, this one's a little brutal to look at So that is that just looks like holy that just looks like men have been crowd into like a cattle um sort of pen Uh, and there's hundreds of them. Was there ever like a group called pipa?
Starting point is 01:00:56 Uh, uh, so uh Some some men in towns that were captured were um, they would be marched to the town as a big show again This is all for the press So they would march all these men through the town Yeah, well, and it's it's also it is for the press for sure, but also if you are uh anywhere near that That that you know, you would you would be like, oh, that's reality That is a a show of my god the enemy. Look at the amount. Well, so so this picture. Look at this picture and there's Maybe 150 men being marched to this town and it looks like four
Starting point is 01:01:31 In a row four and but the picture is taken from above. So this is staged So this photographer right went up right up onto the top of the building and then and they told them they were going to march by I mean, that's clearly what's happening. You know what we really need to do is create camps for journalists Don't now you sound like Trump I mean, okay for politicians too in movie theaters, uh, they the newsreels, you know showed mexican immigrants being rounded up Um and standing in the hot sun While being searched everyone loved it. Everyone's like this is fucking great. I'm so excited With the people behind it even farmers in california supported the operation and then phase two of operation
Starting point is 01:02:14 Operation wetback started on july 15th in texas Oh god, but texas was not like california There farmers were openly opposed to operation wetback. Okay The government and police in texas did not help the border patrol or the ian s Yes, yeah, but on the first day 4,800 men were still rounded up Plains would fly low over Farms to look for workers I mean, look at that. Look at that. That is just the headlines on that paper are just
Starting point is 01:02:53 Like it's patrol deploys by hundreds today's total expected to reach 3000 and then below that 12 wetbacks escape in mass jailbreak in mass jail 12 mass And I mean there and they also had photos of them in jails You know, so clearly the reporters are being let in to take pictures of them in jail, which I think is not cool um, so planes are planes are flying over farms to basically a spot Workers then they would radio the border patrol who would then drive to the farm in jeeps and then Uh, the baseros would show them their papers
Starting point is 01:03:30 Um, and they get to stay and the undocumented guys would be arrested undocumented guys would be arrested Farmers would get upset quote. We're being driven to the poor house. How do you expect us to get our crop in? Sorry, it's just not part of god's plan They were loaded on I mean, it's just like okay They were loaded on trains and sent back along the route So they're put on trains and they're driving on these driving and they're on these trains And alongside the trains are bilingual billboards That read no notice the United States needs legal farm workers
Starting point is 01:04:09 The mayor of your town can arrange for your contracting Dude Warning the era of the wetback and the wire cutter has ended from this day forward any person found in the united states Illegally would be punished by by imprisonment. So as they're As they're leaving they're seeing signs telling them to sign up for this pope. Yeah telling them they have to sign up for this program right This was because operation wetback was not to reduce immigration. It was to move the undocumented into the bracerro program
Starting point is 01:04:45 I mean There's And they were often just dried out which we know what that means The number of workers on uh bracerro contracts doubled Okay Farmers started picking which undocumented worker would be deported and then that worker would be brought right back The ins did not plan for families, uh, they Encouraged women and children to leave voluntarily
Starting point is 01:05:15 Mm-hmm. This caused men to be separated from their wives and kids because the men were being deported to the women And kids are being told to leave so the women and kids would go through Mexicali, Tijuana They would not while the men would be put through El Paso or as So they're splitting up families. If you've ever heard of that now Elvira Velasquez and her 10 year old daughter were stopped on the street and deported But she had three children at home
Starting point is 01:05:45 The next day neighbors heard the kids crying Jesus god Kids were then taken and passed around from neighbor to neighbor until Immigrations learned of what happened and said they were trying to find the mother in Mexico. Uh-huh. Yeah I mean what like Yeah, I mean that's right Raul Mendes is a second grader who came to school with unsigned slips that his mother was supposed to have signed When asked why she didn't sign he said quote mama's gone. She couldn't sign it not coming back border patrol took her by second grade
Starting point is 01:06:19 He had been living alone for 15 days. Wow border patrol denied knowing anything about his mother. Yeah, of course Yeah, and that's basic. Yeah, I mean that's and until I mean, you know until we really just collectively lose our shit The argument ends there. Yeah, that's they put they nub it out. It's done. Uh-huh. Well, we uh It was around here somewhere. I mean, it's like it's not you're not looking for a remote in an apartment I we think we maybe saw it. I ain't that sure It's also uh That kid is seven. Could you imagine a seven year old living alone for 15?
Starting point is 01:07:00 I mean, first of all kids back then had a much harsher life. Yeah, um, at least compared to the I mean, they still do in other parts of the world, but at least in america for the most part um You got it got a pretty good. Obviously there's a shitload of poverty and starting but but a kid living being able to Sustain himself for 15 days alone is fucking amazing unfathomable. Yeah amazing to me But I mean the truth is that and this is what will be the real fucker is when White people in america or americans need to get out of this shithole and What what are other countries policy is gonna be?
Starting point is 01:07:39 I mean what like the abysmal track record. No, no, they're gonna love us We'll sink its teeth so deep into the ass of this policy. We're great Venezuela is waiting for tons of us to come. Yeah. Oh, and we're ready to do any labor But by the way, we need an hour lunch. We want to start at nine. We want free health care done by four And we want rides to and from plus saturday sunday and holidays so to save money harlan carter had Border patrol officers charge each worker ten dollars
Starting point is 01:08:12 As long as they had at least 13 because they could not be left with less than three That would be bad if they less than three newspapers Got reports that they were taking money from workers as they were loaded on buses The inus tried to claim they had the authority to make quote illegal aliens pay for their fares But people didn't buy it and carter was told to stop Hey, they'll pay for it But what he yeah, we'll build a wall. They'll pay for it
Starting point is 01:08:42 Officers in texas and california created quote a little barbershop for chronic offenders at detention centers This meant they were shaving the heads of workers. So they would be easily recognizable if they tried to come back Well, okay Some guys are coming like a lot of these guys the reason like in some of these pictures I was looking at you when they're being arrested you see some of them smiling because they are like i'll be back in a week Right like so But now, you know, how do you solve that? Well, you shave their heads, right? Sure. No more sensible policy. Yeah Uh in news photos, you would see well treated mexicans in reality. They were having their heads shaved and being dropped in the middle of nowhere
Starting point is 01:09:20 eventually the chief patrol inspector deemed headshaving a violation of The workers civil rights so the border patrol had the mexicans get a clipping instead We're giving them mullets now In texas, like I said, they did not like operation went back and they started fucking with the border patrol Uh one border patrolman was ticketed and fined for making quote an improper start from a park position What? He just got in his car and started driving and the and the cop was like fuck you. Yeah ticket They were told they'd be charged extra to cash checks at a bank a restaurant posted a sign quote dogs and border patrolmen not allowed
Starting point is 01:09:59 Some hotels would rent some hotels wouldn't rent rooms to border patrol officers Officers complained their wives were being insulted by neighbors and their children were snubbed by playmates. This is the right Texas is doing the right thing. Yeah, Texas is doing the right thing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Texas might have a misplaced spine at times, but has one Phase three of operation went back started in july and you talked about it in phase three in Idaho There are also mobile units in spokane, chicago, cance city and st. Louis phase four moved into the midwest Because this was so successful congress gave the ionists another three million to buy 24 vehicles and three planes On march 18th 1954
Starting point is 01:10:40 The inaugural flight of the border patrol air transport arm flew 50 mexicans from chicago to brownville, texas in its first year The plane flew 11,459 workers to the mexican border for deportation They were often sent to unfamiliar places and not able to take their belongings that they had in the u.s Once they were there many had no way to contact their families They ended up stranded without food or employment when they were released in mexico They had to get a job to earn money To get back home or to just support their family
Starting point is 01:11:17 Um, so basically they were just being sent into a nightmare which I mean if you did if we did one on the current situation Yeah, very similar and often worse In february 1955 the mexican paper novidadis Again reported horrific conditions at a concentration camp near mcallon after being robbed of their property 800 men were being held in a Quote hellish concentration camp living semi nude in misery hunger and sickness. What does that sound like? heaven A camp of men you mean a concentration camp of basically naked people being
Starting point is 01:11:50 Misery hunger and sickness. What is that? It's interesting. It sounds like a Place in and what year is this germany? Yeah, well, it's 1955. Well, see there was nothing to replicate around that time So there's you didn't have a there was no recent memory of any Plan of that nature. Yeah It's cool though. Yeah Uh democratic senator not all nazis wear armband. That's right Democratic senator thomas h kuchel became upset because he learned the border patrol was using quote killer dogs to patrol the border
Starting point is 01:12:23 Uh swing general swing said they owned dogs quote, but they were not the blood for thirsty variety No, no, these are golden retrievers. They're good. They're trying to fetch arms. Good. Watch this. Good dog Mexican see They love jowls Uh historian may and guy said one incident in one incident Quote some 88 braceros died of sunstroke as a result of a roundup that had taken place in 112 degree heat And more would have died had the red cross not intervened And i'm sure a ton died. Yeah, come on. Oh, that's what you know about. Yeah in 1955. Well, we've never been good with death
Starting point is 01:13:03 No, we're not It's zero. It's pretty much zero In 1955 the border patrol announced they had to remove more than a million people from the country attorney general uh brown ell Uh testified to the senate that quote operation wetback stemmed an actual invasion by illegal entrance from mexico Swing declared that the border had been secured But the million uh deportation number was bullshit Many were counted multiple times some were counted multiple times in a single day
Starting point is 01:13:34 But i shouldn't they just have a haircut to distinguish them? Yeah, you'd think so. Yeah Some were also counted as deported But they had not even been questioned Some people were seen just crossing the border and were counted as voluntary departures So basically our uh calculations are when you try to guess how many jelly beans are in a jar It's very much 900. Yeah The actual number is anywhere from 250 000 to 800 000 probably on the lower side That doesn't even include those who were brought back as braceros
Starting point is 01:14:05 Right Nevertheless newspapers touted operation wetback a huge success. Hey, listen, whatever gets the propaganda going, right? The eagle newspaper claimed it was the operation uh operation was success because there were so fewer deportations the next year That's you want to that's some serious Well, look the eagle newspaper has always been really good. I mean, yeah, that's right That's the editor. Um Yes, so that just means they weren't deporting people not that they were yeah
Starting point is 01:14:36 Just you know how to do thinking if you didn't know how to do thinking. Well, it's just uh, yeah, it's a little wrinkle Gleaming the cube of reality And of course they said there was a huge drop in crime But still swing amounts plans for a quote nationwide Investigative search program to flush out thousands of deportable aliens that were still in the u.s Sequel baby sequel summer blockbuster The new republican governor in california said all the deportations led to his savings and unemployment benefits of $350,000. Hey, look if the price is right price is right worth it price is right
Starting point is 01:15:14 labor representative milton plum went to the border after operation wetback ended The operation was had succeeded in creating anti-us feelings amongst mexicans and mexican americans Now see that's rude. Uh, that is that that's when you go. Okay. Well, there's no hero. Yeah, because for some reason this animosity Come on. Get over it. I don't know where it came from get over it's trying to help You can't you can't build a concentration camp in america and get away with it. Come on guy The border patrol was now militarized and dehumanized the operation had led to an increase in fake tour cards entry permits forge passports and phony birth certificates so now Because a lot of americans
Starting point is 01:15:58 Uh got deported because they would get stopped on the street and they'd be like, let me see your Papers and they show them a social security card and they'd be like, no, where's your birth certificate? And they'd be like, well, I don't carry it on me and then they just deport them. No, that's cool um, the boat uh, there were boat lifts also, um So uh while they were doing the trains and the planes they were also doing boats down to varicruz The boats were really brutal. Um, the boat lifts continued after the end of operation went back in 1956 uh, repert, uh Representative robert mulahan said the mercurio ship resembled an ancient penal ship
Starting point is 01:16:39 And it had been nicknamed hell ship. That's a but I mean, who knows if that's an indicator to the quality of sir. Yeah, yeah Uh mulahan, uh said the ship, uh would normally carry 70 to 90 people but it had been carrying 500 deported men and that it only had two lifeboats with a capacity of 48 Well, to be fair, I mean in your if your reality is that you don't care about the life of these people. What's the point? That's right Well swing Testified in front of a house committee and said a ship like the mercurio quote Discourages the wetback from coming into the united states and risking another trip on the boat
Starting point is 01:17:21 Okay, so these these quotes are exactly what we're doing now. Yeah discouraging by making people's life horrific Right trying to yeah proving a point by saying hey, you're breaking the law therefore Humanity is off limits to us. Yeah, the in s then made a public show of inspecting the mercurio The day after the ship passed inspection 36 men jumped overboard in protest and five drowned The brisero program was ended in 1964, but that did not mean americans were hired for Uh the jobs of working in the fields right farms mechanized Undocumented workers like the rest of the american workforce began shifting from farms to cities
Starting point is 01:18:03 Uh under bill clinton 870 000 people were deported under george busch that number rose to about two million people deported under brock obama Uh 3.2 million people were deported. Hey obama deported more people in any president in history These numbers whoa, whoa, whoa The liberal darling obama. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, but yeah, I know weird. Yeah. No, that's hope. That's hope for them when they go back I get to go back and do hope stuff hope. Yeah uh These numbers did not include people who were self-depop. I know. Yeah, the poster. Yeah, the posters. Yeah, that guy. Yeah, but hope
Starting point is 01:18:41 But yeah, I know they said that it's hard. He would be the guy that I know But he's obama. I know But he can't do that stuff. I know because he's batman These numbers did not include people who were self-deported Or who would turn away and or returned to their home at the border by u.s. Customs and Border Protection The administration focused on preventing families from sending their children unaccompanied on a dangerous trek by emphasizing they would be returned because so obama had faced a new problem Unaccompanied children were fleeing the violence in central america
Starting point is 01:19:19 Their parents were like you're not gonna be able to survive here and just putting them on trains and sending them to america so in 2014 The administration started a five million dollar campaign to discourage those children from coming so PR in the country from he began detaining most families apprehended at the border The deportation court processes were speeded up, but many children were apprehended and held for a long time Trump put obama's process on steroids while obama saw an increase in immigration. Trump actually saw a normal level But he responded like it was an insane level Concentration camps are back
Starting point is 01:19:57 Children are separated from their parents on purpose and as standard practice Some are never going to see their parents again. Let's correct that a lot are never going to see their parents again They're being given drugs Thousands have been sexually assaulted by guards at concentration camps Almost all of what obama has done was modeled after previous presidents, especially eisenhower and obama Trump Yeah, yeah, he took he took a combination of obama and eisenhower is to create what he did. Yeah Well, what's that talk space app? But can you send me? I would love to be logged on and maybe get in there for a little sash
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