The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 371 - Jim Traficant and Crimetown USA (live)

Episode Date: April 2, 2019

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the life of Jim Traficant and Youngstown, Ohio. Recorded live in Columbus.  Check out the documentary "Traficant: The Congressman Of Crimetown.' SOU...RCES TOUR DATES REDBUBBLE MERCH

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Starting point is 00:03:27 well with the crowd Dave Anthony read the story from American history to his friend Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about 1797 New York native John Young surveyed an area out west in 1796 then purchased it from the Western Reserve Land Company and settled there wait where did he settle around here okay soon he established Young's town that was that was a different reaction than when I when I said OH yeah different not as into it Cole was discovered early God Almighty so it's
Starting point is 00:04:38 gonna be a long night Cole was discovered early in the 19th century then a canal and a railroad railroad were made to transport it Young's town became a steel town by mid-century it was all happening immigrants poured into filled jobs the steel industry grew and grew the area around Young's town became known as Mahoning County alright 18 yeah in 1846 Mahoning is a native American word for salt lick salt lick okay yeah no I'm aware let's name it that they said it's a direct quote it won't get better than this let's stop there why continue brainstorming we've hit it out of the park between the 1920s and 1930s Young's
Starting point is 00:05:45 town became an industrial hub steel mills ran 24-7 and stretched as far as the eye could see beautiful beautiful beautiful black skies lovely yep beautiful view immigrants poured in for jobs Poles Greeks Italians Slovax I'm sorry are you throwing shade at the Slovax I don't know it reminds me of the sleast acts from Land of the Lost just the word I don't know what the hell you're talking about anymore I'm in the Land of the Lost one person here is over 80 like me and they got it yeah other people are looking me up and never listening again yeah and with the immigrants came the criminals who took
Starting point is 00:06:39 advantage of them Young's town streets were filled with after-hours joints the steel workers got drunk and the capos ran the numbers Young's town was very small compared to a Detroit or Chicago which meant it didn't have a mob family of its own that is sad I think that's the right reaction that is a bum imagine your town is so shit that you can't get a mob how long until people are just running for mob hey my name is Greg I'm running for the mob please vote for me I can do this give me a give me give me a money I'm pro whacking so look I run garbage but good yeah by the 1950s Rob Mackets were Rob Mackets mob brackets
Starting point is 00:07:30 well man if there's a guy named Rob Macket so hey yeah what do you mean I don't do anything with the mob me my name is Rob Robbie Rickes Robbie Mackets it's not it's hard right it's not easy yeah by the 1950s mob brackets were pilling in millions and millions of dollars the Pittsburgh and Cleveland Mafias began to fight over control of Young's Town okay there were bombings cool great start which became so common that a Young's Town radio station ran a public service ad with the sound of a bomb going off and the slogan stop the bomb by the way if you're in a town that is known for bombings and you're just
Starting point is 00:08:18 listening to the radio one day and then there's no radio and a bomb goes off I don't think you're like what's this commercial for you're like fuck bombs more bombs yeah Young's Town began getting nicknames okay murder town USA hey let's that's a Beach Boys record isn't it let's quit while we're there we've got it murder town USA little Chicago what a list what then this Saturday Saturday evening post read a story about the city and called it crime town USA but they just ripped off murder town USA you know but that one stuck I'll let it go quote the Young's Town area exemplifies the truism that
Starting point is 00:09:12 rackets cannot survive without two basic conditions the sanction of the police and politicians and an apathetic public here those conditions have combined to produce a breakdown of the democratic process buffoons an incompetent succeed to important civic posts Jesus Christ what year is this from the 50s okay officials hobnob openly with criminals arrests of racketeers are rare convictions rare still she says it's almost unheard of my god what it's just imagine can't even at O'Neill the a great actor yep from married with children a moderate family yes and O'Neill grew up I did not see an Al Bundy I know but I love it I
Starting point is 00:10:12 love every minute of it I think I might know more about this subject than you do he grew up in Young's Town when jokes are facts he said quote everyone knew it was gangsters killing gangsters so no one was too outraged about it okay all right it's part of the game like that's the game they're playing it's a game yeah there's the rules of the game they kill each other and everyone's like yeah that's what you're doing it's one really weird rule it's a fucked up rule but it's a rule okay Bob Kroner was sent to Young's Town as an FBI agent in 1976 he had to fill the position of the previous FBI agent who was taking money from the
Starting point is 00:11:05 mob and then became the chief of police it's like it's a great job though right yeah yeah Kroner however was not corrupt when he arrived that's gonna be an issue for the position he's not great is it not it's not great for the whole town right when he when he arrived a full mob war broke out on one side was Joey Naples and Lenny Stroyo from Pittsburgh okay and on the other side where Cleveland's Karabiya brothers known as Charlie the crab and Orly the crab these are just dynamite dynamite the crab brothers I hope they walked around sideways oh yeah just doing the crab block yeah what do you got what's the
Starting point is 00:11:50 matter what are you looking at huh what you never seen a crab brother before oh yeah that's it climb Charlie you better watch out dumbass huh I'm coming from you look my eyes are above my head you dumbass look at this guy this guy doesn't know shit let's get out of here yeah we're going back to the ocean yeah you dumb fucks we're gonna go sleep on rocks put sand over ourselves so people can't tell where we are predators and whatnot later so first a guy named spider got whacked was he in the bathroom shower drain hey what are you doing spider next it was peeps peeps was gone too did they put
Starting point is 00:12:48 him in the microwave and make him explode then one of peeps buddies then they found jeeps buddies just no name yeah I couldn't find a name I'm still working it out oh no I'm whacked I don't even have a nickname hey my name's Billy hey Billy holinghead they found John Magda wrapped in a dump in tape so they taped him up around his face so he couldn't breathe a book he was bombed which he survived and then he was shot through his window while he was watching TV Jesus Christ then Joey DeRose got killed and Kroner kept track of it all and tailed cars and tapped
Starting point is 00:13:33 phones he was not like the previous FBI agent Lenny Stroyle called him quote a motherfucker all right now Youngstown was now the second steel producing city in the world on Friday September 16th 1977 US Steel announced record profits nice boom baby then on Monday the company announced they would be closing the Youngstown Campbell works because they were quote not profitable but what the huh remember when you said that the more money more money even larger profits yeah yeah right people right the UAW president said quote the whole life of Youngstown is being thrown aside for the sake of profit can't imagine that'd be
Starting point is 00:14:32 so weird so who's ever heard of such a thing no the day would become known as Black Monday over the next six months fifty thousand lost their jobs four hundred businesses that relied on workers money were gone four hundred and fourteen million in personal income gone and now the mob was in a different place after the factories closed that's when the mob really started telling politicians what to do okay by the way Gonzaga lost no no no no no you don't fucking refer West Coast teams losing in here I came into your fucking OH you show me some respect Jim Trafficant was born in 1941
Starting point is 00:15:29 interesting he was a hot a star high school quarterback whoa she's over there if you didn't hear that on the podcast it went something like this he shared the hell was you dated him right now he he was more than he was big he was big shit in Youngstown he played every week in front of thousands was like 10 or 12,000 people go to the games the high school games sure and then he went to the University of Pittsburgh play with guys like Mike Ditka sure but he never played in the pros so after Jim went back to school and got a masters from Pittsburgh and then he got a masters from Youngstown State so Jim
Starting point is 00:16:22 Trafficant is not a dumb man he's a very smart man right yeah ready for that were you he taught courses on drug and alcohol dependency then he became executive director of the Mahoning County drug program in 1971 okay seems nice right yeah I'm like doing something for the people yeah but whenever you advocate for someone it just means you're about to stab me what he was well known around town because of football days a bit of a celebrity he was also very charismatic and a great speaker okay and then in 1891 no 1981 oh what I say you said a time where he's not from oh doc we did it in 1891 he
Starting point is 00:17:29 appeared he appeared in Youngstown on the side of a river Jim was the first time traveler yeah you didn't know where this was going did you I'll tell you what I love the new direction I'm fine I'm gonna know a lot about this in 1981 Jim ran for sheriff okay there was a Democratic Party leader who everyone had to go through to get elected all right Hanai that's the last name I know his first name right down he was a mob lawyer a mob lawyer uh-huh okay he drank a quart of booze every day holy shit it's a good amount but always got the job done you mean getting drunk at once and I literally said in an interview quote
Starting point is 00:18:25 everyone takes money from the mob all right well there you go that's good and he did not like Jim because Jim did not kiss his ring that Jim was doing the walking tall thing which was a movie a movie that starred Joe Don Baker and a who was a sheriff who took on the bad guys in town while carrying a giant stick you've seen the picture right he's got it looks like a bat but it's a fucking giant stick he's taking out the bad guys with a stick yeah he's walks around with it and kick some ass big stick and just beats criminals okay nope don't worry yeah and Jim started talking a big game against the mob okay at a press
Starting point is 00:19:08 conference he said quote the mob should get a young's town I am standing on my own and I'm afraid I'm frightened of what I'm facing but if anyone in my family gets hurt or even loses a job I'm going to come after those people physically okay just kind of challenging the mob to fist fight yeah but and also in a way that's not really about anything other than his own life that's right it's like if I'm the sheriff I will take care of my family okay that's a promise the crime rate in my family has skyrocketed if any bad guy touches my family I'll kill him Jim traffic it for sheriff 1891
Starting point is 00:19:58 Hanny said quote I think we need to show Jim traffic in that we don't live in Nazi Germany so obviously he's on the side of the mob Jesus man Jim did receive threats and so did his family but he still kept running for sheriff okay Jim seemed a bit crazy but he was very smart quote he would give some outrageous quote and that would lead the news every time for a reporter writing it up it was all gobbly-gook and didn't make sense except for the three lines he threw at the TV station oh it's time for black let's do it welcome I shut you off my iPad that'll make it hard I think you can keep your iPad on it's nice to finally
Starting point is 00:20:49 have my pants off like you were saying if people if you're listening there is around the world in 830 blackout supposed to do it for an hour turn out the lights in your your city we've done it here in the theater yeah and you thought it was a good idea I did I still do what you can't read that just making sure people can see you I'm not doing anything he so Jim started attacking Hanna and the Democratic Party for being corrupt and said he would fix everything he became the people's candidate but at the same time Jim was taking money I was just there are a lot of parallels I'm feeling right now
Starting point is 00:21:33 do you mean nothing at the same time at the same time Jim was taking money from the mob yeah as a matter of fact he was taking money from both the Pittsburgh mob and the Cleveland mob nice playing both sides I'll tell you from what I've seen in films that never ends badly hit them against each other you'll win he would take money from one and say I'll help you stop the other guy and then money from the other nobody mess with my family and he won the election okay so Jim is now a sheriff of Mahoning County and he did the whole walking tall thing he went on drug raids he raided the outlaws biker gang where they found a
Starting point is 00:22:18 machine gun which Jim made sure that the cameras got him holding can I get point out that there was a time when if you found a machine gun on someone it was like whoa like it wasn't like oh he's a citizen it was like holy shit amish what are you gonna do with this instead of being like this is what George Washington wanted me to have and yes I'm in a Denny's looking to enjoy a short stack of pancakes and some eggs with a rifle I like Uzi's and jelly what can I say I like a little jelly on my toast and a little Uzi on my breakfast table Jim would make sure the cameras are always there he would go knock on doors
Starting point is 00:23:18 alone to do a drug raid so so it was full on real showman stuff full on reality show stuff right but as big as move happened when it came time to foreclose on people's houses the sheriff had to sign the foreclosure deeds and he refused to do it yeah all right yeah so he was brought before the judge on 10 counts of refusing to sign deeds he's brought to the judge for not signing because it's his legal job to sign the foreclosure deeds and if he doesn't they can't foreclose okay well it feels like he's the decision-maker then yeah okay he said he wouldn't do it because it was destroying lives and destroying
Starting point is 00:24:01 neighborhoods so the judge sentenced him to 10 days for each of the deeds he's got a hundred days in jail okay he made sure it was all filmed the courtroom being handcuffed the walk to the jail the fingerprinting him standing there in a jail uniform just modeling yeah so Jim is now close to a god in Youngstown okay he eventually agreed to sign the deeds after some time in jail the rest of his sentence was suspended and Jim said quote I'm very proud I went to jail in Youngstown yeah I'm I think we all I think we can all say that there been a Youngstown you should spend some time in the jail but if you're like parading
Starting point is 00:24:45 around as a hero because you're gonna who said that sorry it's me Garrett oh hi hey hey it's me over here yeah if you say that then you should serve your hundred days this is not what it's just like listening to the podcast right people like just darkness and just like two weirdoes voices yeah but if so if you parade around being like I'm gonna serve a hundred days and you're the people's champion and then you like serve eight hours you're like I did it oh sorry people listening Dave's caught up on a visual gag oh my god Dave we're recording this David yeah so hi hey hi lights there you
Starting point is 00:25:56 are I feel like Jody Foster and Nell burns that's the one where she does the I think that's everyone she did I like I was like that attitude of hers adjusting I feel like I was in the hole for 30 days I feel like a gym trafficant Charlie the Crab oh finally thank god disappeared what under the sea no one knows what happened no one knows what happened to Charlie the Crab he's just gone FBI agent Kroner was searching a mob hitman's apartment when he found some tapes in a bread box stuff this ain't bread stuffed in some stale bread oh it is kind of bread hey what are you guys eating tape sandwiches uh yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:26:54 that's it we tape burgers yeah don't touch that Rangoon it ain't Charlie Kroner listened to the tape it was the Crab brothers talking to Jim trafficant huh turns out the Crab brothers did not trust Jim so they taped the meeting is that bad when you don't trust the sheriff it's bad on a number of levels for sure when you don't trust the sheriff and you're in the mob and also when you're the sheriff and an FBI agent just found incriminating evidence in some white bread it doesn't sound good Kroner then found another tape in the Crab's sister's safe deposit box hmm in a croissant real pastry theme these
Starting point is 00:27:46 guys on those tapes Jim said quote so he's talking to the Crab brothers uh-huh I am a loyal fucker I'm a what loyal fucker okay so he fucks loyals ah you mean the loyal family yes I'm a loyal fucker and my loyalty is here and now we've got to set up the business that they've run for all these fucking years and swing that business over to you and that's what your concern is that's why you financed me and I understand that Dave did someone write this down for him to say that is as incriminating as it could possibly be that is just every word of that is necessary to incriminate yourself perfectly yeah and I'll do it
Starting point is 00:28:31 for you guys because I'm Jim Trafficon okay now let's count it out one two the Crab brothers had given Jim a hundred and three thousand to protect their rackets and shut down the Pittsburgh mobs rackets sure Jim said if any of his do infinity of his deputies betrayed the Crab brothers quote they'll fucking come up swimming in the Mahoning River and this is again is the sheriff okay I just wanted to clarify that one last time yeah so I must have fucked this up because Charlie the Crab is still alive he what my god what just happened I realized a roller coaster the crab disappears later sorry well I can't get
Starting point is 00:29:19 invested in him now yep that's a mistake hey everybody and he just disappeared he's back hey hey what's up hey Charlie hey are you doing don't worry about a thing I'm gonna be fine forever now that I'm back sorry to worry you now I'll never go away again that's a promise Charlie the Crab you can lock it like it's in my claw I think I speak for everyone when I say we hate you with a mug what a boastful sipper I sip like a king like a loyal fucker so so Charlie the Crab was actually worried about Jim's loyalty because what will that ever come back
Starting point is 00:30:10 into play well he knew that Jim had taken 60,000 from the Chicago mob who he was now double-crossing Jim even gave some of the money from that the Chicago mob gave him to Charlie Crab and what to prove he was loyal to them but what no and said the day he became sheriff he would use some of the money the Pittsburgh mob I've given to him to arrest them for bribery okay wait I'm just tired so the Austin is it it's the Pittsburgh mob that he's playing against the crabs the crabs are Cleveland okay right Pittsburgh is what's the guys name Lenny right the stroller stroller is a stroy or stroller stroller sorry so he's
Starting point is 00:30:57 like so that's great so he is like no of course I'm with you guys I'll take some of the bribe money they gave me and gave it to you guys that's right okay that's not shady yeah how could anybody not go for that no no it seems cool so at one point in the tapes Jim realized how amazing his plan was quote if you think about it if I fucking did that Charlie interrupted him you could run for governor and then they all left oh Jesus Christ FBI agent Kroner met Jim and asked him if he was conducting an investigation into the mob and Jim said no no and then he asked if he knew the crabs no no he asked him if he had ever met the crabs
Starting point is 00:31:40 no never met him no and then Kroner played the tape well I mean oh you mean meet him meet him yeah I met him yeah yeah yeah if you have tapes yeah I met him yeah you didn't tell me you had tapes before that and I met them yes I met them yeah that's us yeah yeah so I don't know what any other questions I guess can you stop that tape what did you go through some bread what's going on over here how did you get those did you look at the bread box a gym slumped and said he didn't want to hear anymore he admitted to taking the money and then he signed a confession now for some reason Jim thought once he confessed he
Starting point is 00:32:21 would get to remain sheriff so Jim Jim really didn't look up what his job was too much huh it's just sort of like so I'm just sort of like the leader of everyone right is that how this works I just think it was so corrupt that he was like yeah you do a thing he get yeah then you're fine all right yeah slap on the wrist boom boom boom I'm back with the crabs love it he figured I think he figured he was elected so sure yeah well I'll tell you that's not incorrect but then he was told he would have to resign and he said quote do what you have to do and I'll do what I have to do yeah no we're firing you so I don't know what
Starting point is 00:33:00 the fuck threat that is get out he later told a local reporter quote all those people trying to put me in jail can go fuck themselves so he's switched on August 8th 1982 the 41 year old sheriff surrendered to the FBI for taking a 163,000 from the mob he faced 23 years Jim held the press conference in a white suit and said he would continue to act as the sheriff until someone came and removed him interesting what I'm gonna do is dress like an angel and push back that's my plan for the press conference so I hope everyone's cool with that that'll be my move I'm gonna dress like the Colonel from Kentucky
Starting point is 00:33:45 Fried Chicken and say I'm still the sheriff that's what I'm planning on doing so if anyone has notes now's the time boss to play sorry white suits the plane right I think you said pasta plain which is delicious pasta plain right okay yeah I didn't sort of know that yeah sorry I'm sorry no no no I deserve what did he always wear white suits yes they both did oh they both did yeah it was like a magic island it was fancy island you can't come true so they can't show was about it wasn't about it wasn't about was it about fantasies coming you go there and then your fantasy comes true what if your fantasy was
Starting point is 00:34:32 that those two weirdos weren't dressed in white suits that ever happened I don't that might happen sometimes they dressed up different ways okay but there is one that you know what you would just go to fantasy island and then your fantasy would happen yeah every week there would be a new person who'd go there hard from the description understand what happened well I mean to me I didn't think it was like the lost island or anything I thought it was just like you know it's a lot of fun stuff happening here it's like a fantasy I mean it depends on you couldn't go there and like I want to fuck buffaloes like there was a limit so
Starting point is 00:35:02 okay limit well well well those plot thickened so some buffalo fuckers got to sit in the closet for another decade it's a totally different gets an island built or some archipelago where you can have his way with wild beasts there's a different island it's off the grid what's it called and give me its coordinates called it's called mammal fucker island oh welcome to mammal fucker island just show me your cheetahs well the dolphin and I are gonna retire to the main lab yes sure get that blanket tighter thank you so before the trial Jim held more
Starting point is 00:35:55 press conferences probably good ones right yeah yeah and one he said the FBI faked the evidence and gave him a false statement to sign sure he said he knew it was fake but he signed it anyway because he thought it would help the FBI is probe of the mob ah so he's really a patriot thinking yeah Mel makes sense yeah no it does if you don't think about it it kind of makes sense he said quote the ethics of the FBI are now gonna be on trial yeah it's those guys again Jim then tried to get arrest warrants for 10 FBI agents this is I mean look I don't want to just a state how similar it is to what's happening in our country right
Starting point is 00:36:40 fucking now but did Trump just hear about this guy was like that'll do I have no idea what you're that'll play great let's just do that is that cool can we just do no idea what you're talking about can we just do that all right let's just do that Jim wanted to charge the chief FBI agent with intimidation yeah yeah because he was asking me a lot of questions okay the FBI chief said quote we don't run from the mob and we don't run from ding dong sheriffs either you know he heard that was like but my white suit but I'm not a ding dong you're ding dong shit come on Jim come up with a better comeback than that she's
Starting point is 00:37:20 sheriff he's sure ding dong that's a doorbell yeah hey that's what I'll say hey ding dong I'm not a doorbell for sheriff which camera oh hey I'm here to fuck buffalo right this way you're not a copper anything are you with my dick be out if I was potentially yeah it's totally a possibility I guess it is youngstown yeah it's youngstown so well anyway this is your buffalo small yeah yeah by the way don't try to rip it it's fur it's not a guy in a suit so just go at it though it's a rare it's a buffalo it's rare it's like rubber on they can feel rubber look hey hey quit staring at it so much have your way welcome to
Starting point is 00:38:14 mammal fucker island just do it that's a guy yeah that's my brother Don hey how are you yeah this is my job whatever they want I put on the suit yeah you know I used to be the sheriff isn't that crazy that fun that funny Jim then said he had been running his own personal sting the entire time this guy is just dynamite the king of reveals that aren't happening and there's another plot twist I am the FBI oh it was your mind is a blown okay he ran for sheriff quote to impregnate the mob that's right you know what I'm gonna do get in there have my way they have babies boom there's a three-tiered plan okay you
Starting point is 00:39:10 know how it is to impregnate the mob that's right and by the way terms I got them okay do you know how it was to impregnate the mob plus I infiltrated my wife at the same time I filed candidacy papers for the office of sheriff and then I met everybody so he's saying that's how hard it was to he's pretty smart Nate them is he now is he like thinking of these before he says of her he's just kind of blurting them out no I think that he is as he goes along just just coming up with things he's basically throwing everything against a wall right so so he says he had to take money to become accepted right that's
Starting point is 00:39:53 why I took the hundred they're not gonna think you're a legit corrupt asshole unless you play that role that's right and this matched the tapes quote I took the money so when I became the fucking sheriff I'll stop this fucking organized racketeering in Mahoney County the swearing isn't helping his case too much for professionalism yeah some believed his personal investigation was pretty smart mm-hmm who are these people the Jim said he he said he had this is not a sentence Jim said as sheriff he was gonna take down the mob he was playing the long game so he said the whole time he was running the whole plan was become
Starting point is 00:40:36 sheriff take him down yeah and I couldn't take it he printed up transcripts of the phone calls and gave them out to anyone who would take them okay he spent thousands of dollars printing up transcripts he said they were quote the ravings of a lunatic at one point Hannah held talked to the news and said quote Jim I think that perhaps you ought to go to a hospital and have your blood checked because I think that you are an AIDS suspect wait no good no good guys said no good guy story what did he call him an AIDS a suspect that's right that's right one of the AIDS suspects it's crime his age it's a flawed on a number of
Starting point is 00:41:26 levels it's not great I'll read it from the top Jim I think that perhaps you ought to go to a hospital and have your blood checked because I think that you are an AIDS suspect they tell me that AIDS has a net of a negative effect on the human brain okay so this guy is like an open micro is like and I'll test out my material this is the mob lawyer who drinks a court of booze every day well and you're telling me that this guy was not necessarily tailored for public speaking Hannah they went to court and asked if you plead guilty and not guilty to be in the AIDS suspect come on and I then went to court and asked that Jim be
Starting point is 00:42:10 hospitalized for mental illness quote I'm convinced that the sheriff is nuts and if he isn't then the rest of us are in serious trouble I mean he's got a point sure yeah it just you know the a I think I'm still stuck with the AIDS thing yeah it's so hard to get past a hard one yeah a judge interviewed Jim looked at his records and ruled that quote the sheriff is not crazy actual quote that's got to be a cool feeling for Jim he's like yeah want a case well so then Jim took that and went around saying that he was the only public official in Ohio with a court document stating that he was sane yeah no no no you're the only one who
Starting point is 00:42:57 needed the document is what it is you're not the only sane one oh that's amazing that he gets like a certificate she not crazy okay proof okay I think I'm crazy who has a certificate that says they're not crazy and is crazy okay thank you good the trial was in Cleveland Jim acted as his own attorney you know Dave there's not a lot of setups that I enjoy more on this podcast than when someone is going to serve as their own attorney that's like oh god I would never want to be on a jury but if they were like and the guy's serving as those attorney I'll be like I'll pay you I will pay I will pay for this show I
Starting point is 00:43:47 will pay to watch the man who doesn't know law and is probably guilty try to move around the law objection against myself your honor oh sorry sustained oh not my party either I'm sorry permission to treat myself as hostile can we go through the football at recess yeah I think that's right so this is also a don't hit your wooden hammer like that so this is also a Rico case which is super complicated so it's insane than anyone would try to defend themselves oh Dave insane or delicious but this just made him look larger than life in Mahoning Valley where they don't like the government oh boy so the evidence is
Starting point is 00:44:39 overwhelming handwritten confession uh-huh tapes fingerprints yeah even a deputy who testified Jim and asked him to shoot him and make it look like a mob hit okay so and not just once a bunch of times he just can't go to his deputy back come on just fucking wing me just me can we take the certificate back at this point it seems like it's fair to remove and retract the certificate of sanity who's this is now you mean he asked them multiple times he didn't ask to be shot multiple times in the mob hit no I just over a long period time he's like just fucking shoot man maybe the big guy you can you want to want to shoot
Starting point is 00:45:17 a guy if you're in bite if you're here and your boss asks you to shoot him shoot him it's gonna be the greatest day your life I mean yeah someone's giving you permission to kill them really is what it is put it on your put on video and then do it yeah and then hide it in some bread that's right so Jim asked for the trial to be moved to Youngstown which didn't work okay so then he asked for jurors from Youngstown to be on the jury that worked interesting that's as good six out of 12 of the jurors were from Youngstown so he asked for a home game and they were like no and then he's like can I have the fans come in for the
Starting point is 00:46:05 game and they're like yes yeah basically okay Jim came to court in a corduroy jacket with a pocket ripped out mmm what a bold move Jim I don't know what game you're playing but I like what I hear and then I'm gonna rip the pocket of course where's that certificate at can we just have a look at that his first statement to the jury mm-hmm he said he looked right at one of the one of the two one of the jurors said he looked right at him and he said I got inside the mob I fucked the mob go to be on that jury huh innocent he looked I love you look how do you think
Starting point is 00:46:50 I got him pregnant I fucked the mob I fucked the mob that's your first that's your first date like you thought that one out yeah that'll be perfect and I'll look right at one of those guys be like I fucked the mob yeah Jen referred to himself as quote my client oh my god Dave what what have we done to deserve such a gift my client ah tell me he's running back to sit at the table and not at himself you're on a permission to call my attorney awesome permission denied for every permission request thus forward could you denied could you tell my
Starting point is 00:47:46 client please I am he's got little costume changes and as myself I wear a little hat and I have a regular pocket and then I rip the pocket off take the hat off and I am the lawyer man or whatever his name is the almost judge that's what it's called now Jim said it was a one-man sting operation and that he deserved an Academy Award this is just gold the stenographer was probably like hold on I'm sorry this is hold on oh my god this is great this is phenomenal I'm doing this in final draft this is so good he said that confession was fake and a handwriting expert testified that it was mm-hmm now
Starting point is 00:48:34 when the expert hey do I look like my client and my lawyer hi I'm the handwriting expert there's no way that's his hey that's an interesting thing client I agree completely now the guy who signed this was he wearing a white suit or a corduroy was your buffalo fucker what was he so that he had written on this piece of paper and then it got down near the bottom and he had to like scrunch to sign it so it didn't look like yeah well if you scrunch sign if you're scrunch signing it's you need a whole different expert you need a guy who's an expert in scrunch signatures always use a long legal legal yeah no
Starting point is 00:49:13 scrolls that's why I only write on scrolls absolutely people say that it's not smart but I only I only will do a scroll Jim had an audio expert come in and say the tapes were edited which they were because the FBI always fucks up the FBI had added them to make them shorter that's enough Jim admitted taking the mob money but said he did so so his campaign opponent wouldn't get it well let me ask you this did his opponent have a certificate that said he wasn't crazy no well then I think we know who wins this round that's a name that's quite a plan quite a plan on June 15th 1983 Jim Trafficon was acquitted wow he
Starting point is 00:50:13 silently wept in court out on the courthouse steps jurors wanted to meet him and shake his hand thanks for fucking the mob awesome when you looked at me oh one hugged him another another said that they had been rooting for him the whole time this was the 80s when after the trial the jurors were allowed to go have like a fan meeting with the guy who was just acquitted I think they still are if you're acquitted I think you can hang out with a jury right away right after you right you could go for the 19th hole just go sit with the jurors man that was crazy thank you guys so much who wants kamikaze's I'm buying back
Starting point is 00:50:57 in Youngstown they celebrated they didn't think he was fully innocent but in their city in their city everyone was full shit and corrupt Ed O'Neill quote it was amusing to us I do like that he's popping back in so Jim was a winner there's video of him returning that looks like a fucking rocky just want to fight large crowd he's pushing his way through surrounded by bodyguards people are clapping cheering some are crying bodyguards help him through the crowd he's Youngstown's national celebrity many thought he was a crook but he was their crook okay that's sure a hometown hero at a press
Starting point is 00:51:45 conference he said the mob should get out of Youngstown what is he doing back on it he's back on the fucking game you mean he's back in character he was but he's doing the thing he's pretending your voice got super high which tells me you're covering up for I think you're in love with this man right now and not the mob way not the mob things all righty I think there's no many name the mob guys individually Naples James Fredo the Carabia brothers but this is all for the cameras he wasn't going after anyone he was just playing to his audience and then Jim shocked everyone I mean it's like when OJ is like now we find the
Starting point is 00:52:29 killer juice just come on you got it just go no I've got more work to do all right and then Jim shocked everyone and ran for the house of representatives what is he doing what do you mean what do you mean what do I mean the fuck is he doing he's running for the house of representatives okay got to represent the people to the people like him yeah he won the Democratic primary easily of course well I think he fits right in and during the race against the Republican and Jim went up to the chief strategist of the incumbent and said quote I'm coming after your boy and I'm gonna win look what I've done look who I am I own
Starting point is 00:53:12 the minds I own the mind yeah the mind owner he had no campaign handlers he had no consultants he didn't trust anyone oh my god but he could speak for an hour without looking at notes and captivate everyone oh my god Jim also like to do the salesman move so the his opponent's like a foot smaller so he'd grab his to shake his hand and they pull him in with the other hand shut up what are you doing right now he looks like the stronger guy and also he's much taller so it looks like he's manhandling this little guy yeah no I've seen it yeah remember when Macron sprained his arm as like arm when he came here
Starting point is 00:53:51 he's like Jesus what is he doing why would he do that hello yeah so everyone watching this made him look like he was in charge and he easily won Jim Trafficking became a member of Congress in 1985 oh my god this guy's story this was during Reagan's massacre Jim was the only newly elected Democrat in all Congress wow yeah 1985 was a fucking bummer yeah and as a freshman at Congress you are expected to sit and listen as we can see the olds don't like it when you talk me why is that young brown woman saying things listen lady once you start losing your mind like me then you can begin to govern put the oil money
Starting point is 00:54:52 in me hmm I don't like this truth teller she's here to hurt us she's the one we read about the oracle foretold one like she would come around we must destroy her however we can so obviously sitting and listening is not Jim's style no and now in Congress apparently you can give one minute speeches every day if you want to and so he did that every day he spoke out for his constituents one minute he said quote my area's hurt I lost 55,000 jobs in the last 11 years and all these fancy Harvard ideologists philosophers all they've given us is rust-proof paint he slept on a boat and he lived in his office what yeah I must
Starting point is 00:55:59 have slept on a boat in the Potomac River and then Potomac and then and then and then he kept all of his clothes and stuff in his office and would change he's just like basically sleeping on the boat he's like Captain Ron if he were in Congress yes okay Captain Ron he's Captain Ronning it right but he's making no progress Ronning for Congress but as much as he's talking about all the jobs loss and everything no one's doing anything in Congress right meanwhile doesn't sound like Congress yeah I know it's weird meanwhile Mahoning Valley was disintegrating in a near permanent recession mills closed
Starting point is 00:56:44 department stores closed airlines stopped flying there by the end of the 1980s the population in Youngstown alone fell by more than 28,000 when one of the last steel nose closed Jim said quote I think this is beyond all the talking phase if the owner rips off the last industrial facility then someone should grab him by the throat and stretch him a couple of inches so he's talking the way people who lost their jobs yeah our feeling want to hear yeah you're saying exactly what they want to hear depression made the mob stronger middle class was now gone doctors lawyers accountants basically the entire civic
Starting point is 00:57:27 backbone is gone the civic leaders who remained are totally marginalized success and morals and Youngstown became inverted so now kids who grew up worship worshiping the capos so right they went from wanting to work in a mill right to now worshiping the mob and the mob no longer catered to mill workers but instead drug dealers and other criminals they were the only ones left with money to spend the 60 minutes to the special on Jim in 1991 because he's eccentric and outspoken he did give great speeches I mean you see his one minute speeches and the entire house applauds and cheers him because he's
Starting point is 00:58:04 saying he's fucking saying the truth right the house reps would stand and applaud at this point he had a he had a crazy to pay so his hair had fallen out and then he put it to pay on that like didn't it doesn't fit right it's just kind of do they ever this one is spectacularly bad like it's like he stole it to pay from another guy to put on like before his speech it's next level fucking crazy like it's hanging off of his head this is the point well the point are you looking it up I'm gonna show you oh yes so my favorite part this is your favorite part yeah when you give a little picture I'm always into
Starting point is 00:58:42 that okay so oh whoa yeah that is so that it's not it doesn't I mean no it's like I don't know what it it doesn't look right that doesn't look like hair yeah not at all it's not remotely hair it looks like a hair cake I mean it's just dynamite so me I'm in my mid-40s why he did this on purpose he what wore that to look crazy on purpose he wore it's so now it's the 90s he's still wearing bell bottoms often white I mean literally one person clapped once it's as low as support can be for something that support is called out for yeah that was an applaud yeah an applaud exactly yes yes finally know the sound of
Starting point is 00:59:45 one hand clapping so this is part of his act right so he said there were 435 guys in Congress and 434 wore gray suits sure purposefully standing out yeah well you could just do that with the bell bottoms you don't need to put a fucking old rat on your head he's also very funny and charismatic to the people of Youngstown this meant he was one of them he wasn't a DC type okay sure the IRS came after Jim for the 163,000 he took from the mob he didn't write that off which he told everyone he had taken right you have a part of how he and it's how he impregnated them but he refused to pay taxes on it and went to trial but
Starting point is 01:00:41 there there's no jury it's just a judge so he lost right and now so he's in Congress and his wages are garnished by the IRS that's that so he was only bringing home $455 $450 a week it's pretty great I mean that's enough to sustain boat living what do you need out there and now he's pissed so in his one-minute speeches he starts railing against the IRS every day and Jim started using the phrase beam me up beam me up which came from being me up Scotty there's no intelligent life down here so he was saying get me out of Congress or the world of the IRS he's saying they're all everyone's a fucking idiot right
Starting point is 01:01:26 okay and they loved him more and more in Youngstown he was screaming for them they had been fucked by the economy trade NAFTA the banks China all became his targets he knew that he knew what the voters were mad about and he could say it the way they wanted it to be said he was the politician who people said got them when no one else did mm-hmm because he also didn't fit in Jim he was basically the politics of resentment of a people discarded by a country yep which is what I think a fun theme in American history wouldn't it be great if there was another party I mean like a real one yeah
Starting point is 01:02:07 Jim saw what was coming he said quote what happened in Youngstown will happen everywhere else if there isn't a trade program developed in America we have a crisis ahead that will make the 29 crash look like a fender bender if all those who keep making light of it in about 10 years try and eat your Toyota I don't like how this guy's starting to win me over I feel like you let me down one path with them but now I'm like all right keep going Jim yeah he's a complicated man yeah complicated hair now Bill Clinton Bill Clinton was running guys the chairs are gonna fall apart yeah let's not it's an honor it's an honor but let's
Starting point is 01:02:53 try to keep it together it's an honor so Bill Clinton was running for president 1992 he comes to Youngstown he needs he needs Jim to support him because Jim is fucking Youngstown right so he needs approval so to get the backing Jim tells future president Clinton that young town needs a new defense center and that would provide four to five thousand jobs okay you guys ever heard of a defense center Clinton looked at Jim and said quote I promise you you've got it and Clinton was elected after the election Jim pushed Clinton to deliver but it wasn't happening so he went public and he went very hard a little too hard for
Starting point is 01:03:41 the Democrats Jim said if he had to make a choice between being loyal to the Democratic Party or his constituents the party would lose every time then the Democrats in Congress held a closed-door meeting about Jim afterwards Clinton reneged on his promise and gave the defense center to Columbus Ohio oh wow and night in 1996 Clinton came back to Youngstown to campaign oh how'd that go hey it's me I've got a bunch of new promises first promise go fuck yourself my first promises no promises are binding once I leave here I won't have
Starting point is 01:04:31 sex with all your women I will I am an out-of-control pervert but the party's gonna pretend like I'm not and get them out at the next one it's called kicking the can down the road that's what I'm gonna do thank you so much Youngstown or wherever the fuck I am I don't remember so Jim speaks at the right I am a sheep and wolves clothing aka a man in a buffalo costume so Jim speaks at the rally again what is this time it's a little awkward how would Bill Clinton even get at a rally with this guy now I mean they pushed him that because Jim had a plan they pushed him and Bill sat behind him and Jim got up
Starting point is 01:05:23 and just fucking ripped him a new asshole and Bill sat there and took it it's hilarious he's got my number after the rally that's funny I think he's funny I think it's funny stuff I'm laughing I'm laughing the whole time I'm furious on the inside oh man after they got into a limo together and Jim just started tearing into Clinton further he used every name in the book finally Jim was thrown out of the limo by the Secret Service after that Jim used all his one-minute speeches to go after Bill Clinton I love that he's I love that he's still on a pitch count all right you got one minute
Starting point is 01:06:20 well I'm pissed eventually Clinton couldn't take it and gave millions of upgrades to the Air Force base in Youngstown okay but that's also bullshit because the military industrial complex just pays off every single fucking district so people have jobs and then we'll have to go to war to have jobs sorry but this is when they were probably just starting to figure out exactly how lucrative that could be that's right right so when he was just like oh I could just do this everywhere that's easy so Jim still in Congress he's crushing opponents when they run
Starting point is 01:06:58 against him he's winning by 75 to 80% every election like that's fucking unheard of yeah but Youngstown is going deeper into the abyss the mob is now completely running things Lenny Astrolow changed the civil service exam so he could pick the cheap of police and almost every patrolman well that's not good he controlled 90% of appointments to the police department oh Jesus the city's law director would bring Astrolow a list to his house so he could pick which cop he wanted as as you're supposed to do so if you can imagine this led to him being able to pick which murders got put on trial sure when three
Starting point is 01:07:51 hitmen were pulled over in a car with an AK-47 a 357 and a 9 millimeter pistol one of the cops one of the one of the mob guys just handed his phone to a cop and said here call Bernie the Jew who will later run for president hello there with me Bernie the Jew told the cops to let the guys go and they did did Bernie the Jew ever push back on the nickname or he was just like I am what I am okay let him go I just think they called called it like it was straightforward yeah yeah well this guy's different than us he's a Jew what should we call him Bernie the Jew is what I've always gone with so the Cleveland
Starting point is 01:08:46 and Pittsburgh mobs were still fighting and with all this control Strolow got reckless and he just started killing tons of guys but then a new prosecutor was elected and he was not corruptible his name was Phil Gaines this was obviously a huge problem yeah he started investigating meanwhile in DC Jim started saying dumber and dumber things he went after Attorney General Janet Reno about a conspiracy theory and said she had a relationship with a sex worker who was associated with the mob interesting now backing Youngstown people like well that's crazy so they actually started thinking he's a little out of
Starting point is 01:09:26 touch right didn't go over very well back home meanwhile the FBI investigation guy was going on guys are going down Strolow went away for gambling okay then it got out 14 months later and just started running things again so the FBI decided to start going after the lower guys hoping they'd flip on the upper guys okay so they got a bookie who they arrested and turned him he worked in the market and always smelled like fish okay it they didn't say what his nickname was but I know what it was Joey stinks it's not Charlie tuna yeah fit no there's sorry Charlie fishy bill Sturgeon I would love to see you in the mob pitch
Starting point is 01:10:15 meeting Sturgeon hey Davey bad ideas get the fuck out of here huh hey Davey shit nicknames go baby go what about trout get out Davey bad names octopus hey Davey everything's a fish go Davey drags on too long don't pitch see best Davey out of ideas Davey I can't believe how hard it is for you to come up with fish order well the hell Davey took a left turn go they eat they fish Davey weird connections leave the pitch meeting the fish eating the mammals Davey won't stop digging shut the fuck up leave go what about Joey nipples I I'll tell you what close that door come
Starting point is 01:11:14 back in someone's back and I'm in charge I'm Mikey just got to hear 12 things so so that guy starts wearing a wire that leads to phone taps soon they're listening to thousands of conversations stroller's phone is tapped his rooms are bugged so stroller then knew what was going on tried to plant evidence that agent kroner was on the take mm-hmm and then he couldn't just coming home like man that kroner sure loves money huh I gave him all of it and he said that's not enough why are you doing that with your hands what you are you fucking yelling anything with my hands you're yelling at me quietly no I'm not I'm
Starting point is 01:12:04 pouring some tea for the both of us well now you're flipping me off what's going on here Jesus boss don't paint a font finger at me like a gun I'm not pointing a finger at you like a gun I'm hanging a picture I've always wanted on the wall there's a finger again what the what's with the fucking now you're saying you're gonna slip my throat no I am merely petting the neighborhood dog there's no dog here don't what the fuck boss why are you pulling your dick off and throwing it down I am simply putting out a chessboard to play against you later you what's with the fist I'm talking about Kroger he takes money you
Starting point is 01:12:45 fucking idiot what are you fucking stupid first of all Kroger's a grocery store at West are you talking about Kroner the FBI agent oh how about Jimmy two fishes we could have come up with a better name so straw low orders a hit on the incorruptible County prosecutor okay he gave the order to Bernie the Jew who hired a black mob assassin who told his friends he was gonna be the first made black guy in the country so how do you sell it you're like cool or what do you want to hear from us that's not good also Mark batcho a local guy who idolized the mob so much growing up he got tattoos of
Starting point is 01:13:42 capos and Mo man Harris a crack dealer Mo man it's a good crew it is a good crew Mo man for sure so they drove to the prosecutor's house and batcho went in and shot him but didn't kill him okay and then the gun jammed so he ran so plan gone to perfection when he got in the car he said the gun jammed and they were like well why didn't you stab him oh yeah that's my fuck what I should have them yeah I just panicked and put my fingerprints all over stuff I wrote my name in blood on the wall and then I was out of there I flipped him over made sure he had a good look at me and then I left what are you gonna do once you
Starting point is 01:14:28 gun jams you got a freak out right I signed a thing that said I did it and then I made sure you got a good look at me I touched a bunch of stuff put a little of my blood on there you know in case that technologies around now I don't know and then I came down here to catch up with you guys that's right I'm when I ran out when I ran out of you I am but so but I think it's fine I think it's gonna be fine he's probably dead he said bye when I left but I'm sure he's yeah no way he's just being nice I think I think it was saying bye to his life maybe I don't know the gun jammed like I said I freaked out after watching a little TV I got out of there I left took off came to you guys so
Starting point is 01:15:13 couple days later so they didn't think it was the mob because it was such a bad hit they're like there's no way this isn't a mob no way this the mob some guy who panicked real easily and touched a bunch of stuff so then a couple days later a bitter ex-girlfriend called the FBI one of the guys ex-girlfriend and told them everything well who is keeping that in touch with their ex-girlfriends hey how are you Kathy I'm about to do a hit we're still cool right awesome all right I'll see you I just this I'm letting you know we're still we're still talking and we're still fine I trust you I'm gonna murder a guy in two nights
Starting point is 01:15:53 good to catch up so the four hitmen were charged with attempted murder Bacho became a mob rat in December 1997 the FBI arrested 28 mob guys including a stroller and then they all squealed against each other except two okay the black guy and the Jewish guy sure riddle and burn in the Jew are the only ones who stuck to the Sicilian code even though they were not a time yeah all the Italian guys squealed on each other even stroller so now politicians started going down okay Jim's longtime top aide was arrested it was reported that he was Jim's bag man his bag man okay but Jim had an explanation for that he said his
Starting point is 01:16:51 aide had cancer so he would go to the capo's wife to get cancer medication so that's what was in the bag sorry wait what was the excuse he had cancer the bag man yep the aide sure and then so he went to the capo's wife to get cancer medication because they had so that's why he was going back and forth from there okay because they had all the good cancer drugs yeah right okay in Youngstown if you have cancer gotta go to the mob yeah okay it's not a good medical although maybe better medical can't be worse we should actually pitch that that the mob runs our health care it can't be worse we're at the yeah at some point yeah you
Starting point is 01:17:41 just got to dig all the way through the hole at this point and just be like what's on the other end hey the mob runs the mob hospitals okay hey so we know we broke both your arms and here's what we're gonna do to fix them I'm afraid we're gonna have to whack your husband pull the plug sorry so then the aide however testified that he was actually bringing money back and forth it was an idiot yeah not cancer medication I got that from the hospital oh weird you lied to me so now Jim's entire office staff is being investigated Jim was being very open about it to the press quote Hawks are circling buzzards are circling sharks
Starting point is 01:18:34 are circling what kind of desert is he in I'm trying to picture where he is what landscape is this I'm in the ocean desert sharks are gonna eat those birds Hawks buzzards sharks sure the big three on a desert island uh-huh yeah no he's not fantasy island Hawks are circling buzzards are circling sharks are circling trying to kill the trafficking election that's right he's still running for office during all of this yeah why not his ex staffers started turning and testifying they had been bag men for Jim Jim said he was under pressure and not sleeping well but quote I want to say this to the US Attorney you're also
Starting point is 01:19:17 under pressure you must defeat me I'm targeting them they better not make a damn mistake I am mad and I'm gonna fight like a junkyard dog in the face of a hurricane what is he talking about in a hurricane in a hurricane I got bad news for the dog well I just around shrapnel and wind this won't end well doggie to be fair I just washed my puppy and I used a hair dryer on me was like so it's different it's a different thing it's a dog in the wind they're like a different thing it's a different thing yeah so but actually that makes sense with all those animals circling though they're in a hurricane that's the
Starting point is 01:20:00 only way it would be rationally possible that's right is in some sort of predator predatory hurricane sort of aquatic desert like crosswind that dogs fuck though if there's sharks in that hurricane yep they love a junkyard dog he then threatened the Democratic Party saying he was switch parties if they didn't back him the Republicans like no no no no no no no not the Republicans really okay yeah yeah yeah during the election he kept saying he was going to be indicted that's a good slogan Jim Trafficon I'm gonna be indicted I'm Jim Trafficon and I approve this message
Starting point is 01:20:49 but because he was saying it and he already beaten one he was basically saying I got this is no big deal they're coming after me again right so people were like ah it's Jimmy it's a sequel a reboot so it didn't seem that bad and he won oh my god and his popularity easily it wasn't even close okay but then when the new Congress was seated he voted for the Republican Hastart to be the speaker of the house happens to be a pedophile oh no no no it happens to be a boyfucker that's fine why not yeah it is true it's cool he just paid the guy off but what he traded for this what he traded for being a
Starting point is 01:21:37 Democrat voted for voting for a pedophile to be the speaker of the house was he would get 35 million to build a new arena in Youngstown well that's cool but the Democrats were furious and he was kicked out of the party okay so now he's kind of a Republican but a turncoat one so they're not so what is he so he's really nothing he he gets like one committee assignment but he's got means he has zero power and the Justice Department is still coming after right so Jim was finally arrested not on big mob stuff but on a bunch of little things like not filing correct income tax reports
Starting point is 01:22:19 hiring undocumented workers on his farm like stuff that's not right that big but it all adds up when the government turned over the evidence for the trial because he was his own attorney dude I just I don't know how I feel about this guy this is quite a polarizing figure in many ways Jim didn't even look through it he told his chief of staff he didn't need to look through it because quote I've done nothing wrong sure yeah just go in there cold treat it like a dollop just walk in there and just hear what they're gonna throw at you and just figure it out Jim represented himself again in front of the courthouse he told
Starting point is 01:23:03 reporters quote most people have problems with a fly with a fly on their face I have an elephant eating my asshole I'll tell you it's true sequels just have to go bigger it's like in his last one he started by saying like I fucked the mobs you're like buddy you've peaked what are you gonna do I peaked well guess what an elephant is eating my asshole I'm Jim traffic it I will be indicted an elephant just by the way right now the Republican Party's an elephant eating an asshole they've eaten the asshole yeah they're loving the asshole I mean it's there's video of it it's video of an elephant eating his
Starting point is 01:23:59 asshole I think it's just some guy in a suit you're sure this is your fantasy I don't think this is what we intended when we opened this island this has really taken a turn yeah but now every guy that comes here just wants to eat elephant assholes we're basically elephant asshole eating island that name was already taken Jim was offered can you just read the quote one more time it's really good most people have a problems with a fly on their face so right there it's like not a good start cuz you're like that's a really weird problem I feel like we've all kind of figured out how to solve that it's one
Starting point is 01:24:46 motion but okay so most people have that level of a problem most people have a have problems with a fly on their face I have an elephant eating my asshole and this is the 90s this is not that long ago and no it's not this is 2000 I wonder what his client thought come on I told you not to talk like that I I'll do what I want I'm the attorney god damn it all right listen look we're both getting our assholes eaten I object that's not your position all right we'll take some questions from myself I have a question yes over there hey I didn't say you'd take that one I'm
Starting point is 01:25:31 the client shut up I'm the attorney miss thank you so much I'm also you guys now Jim was offered a plea deal two years we would plead guilty he did not okay what he did do was plead guilty plead not guilty by reason of insanity in a way his whole life has been leading up to this plea ladies and gentlemen look at the thing I have on my head the bell bottoms I have on my trousers and the boat that I call home I'm Jim Trafficking and I will be indicted it was a three-month trial it was very clear he had absolutely no idea what he
Starting point is 01:26:25 was doing interesting on April 12 2002 he was convicted on 10 counts okay then elephants having a meal then the House Ethics Committee held a hearing where the prosecutors gave their evidence and then he came in and answered questions he said quote disregard all that opposing counsel has said I think they should be handcuffed to a chain link fence flogged and all their heresy evidence should be thrown the hell out and if they lie again I'm gonna kick them in the crotch thank you very much they were sitting right next to him so obviously he took a lot of time to think of what he was gonna say when he came out not just
Starting point is 01:27:14 sort of wing it and get lost in another analogy he's such a showman at this point that he if you watch the video he just kind of it's almost like he's a stand-up like he's just fucking around it's crazy to watch because you're like dude it's all but it's also so similar to huh nothing other reporters who were there from around the country asked the reporters from Youngstown what kind of people live in your district rude on July 24th 2002 Congress voted 42 420 to 1 to expel Jim traffic it now was Jim allowed to vote in that okay so there was just one other lunatic there was one who voted for him and he was on their
Starting point is 01:28:08 investigation for killing a DC intern dude what how can one Chandra be so levy dude wow that's a rap song everybody take it easy so Gary condit Gary condit the guy who was the guy actually innocent but was having sex with her he was innocent yeah you see that's what I never remember that part I'm just like Gary condit got away with it because a 9-11 he was having an affair with her but he didn't kill her right okay right no having an affair in Congress is mandatory not illegal yes during his sentencing the judge said Jim lied so much some people started to believe it and that was quote the drumbeat of a
Starting point is 01:28:55 demagogue he got seven plus years okay but he wasn't done no boy no this is the Terminator we're talking about the weird Terminator Jim ran from Congress for Congress from prison sure now Dave I like that twist I think it's about time we started doing it that way quote this is a video they say I think it's a commercial quote they say I can't win a congressional race behind bars let me tell you something you want to send a message to Washington I want your vote Jim Trafficking I told you I'd be indicted that's great some people start a library other people find religion some run
Starting point is 01:29:56 for government his supporters held a rally people wore Jim Trafficking wigs so they just took some beaver fur and painted it white they wore free Jim t-shirts they said he was innocent and had so many achievements name them one of his old staff ended up running against him in the Democratic primary and won Tim Ryan he got 59,000 votes and Jim got 17 it's pretty good Jim was put in solitary in prison for allegedly trying to incite a riot when he told the guard quote no one can understand what in the fuck you're saying would you do us all a favor and take the dick out of your mouth and maybe it will help with all
Starting point is 01:30:45 your mumbling oh can I take my phone for Ryan back all righty oh god this guy tremendous something special it's different on September 2nd 2009 Jim was released he came home to a hero's welcome they had a giant party and then he jumped back into politics oh good I was hoping he was now a member of the Tea Party perfect he ran against Tim Ryan but he couldn't beat him Tim was a rising star in the Democratic Party and on the House Appropriations Committee bringing lots of money back into Youngstown but Jim
Starting point is 01:31:36 still managed 30,000 votes Jim then retired to his farm on September 23rd 2014 he was on his tractor and it rolled over on him and he died four days later oh shit Youngstown has been on the rebound but this time it's tech not steel that's turning it around so we had a we had a planet change 10 meeting earlier today in Columbus which went very well thank you for the people who came the webs so people get frustrated so the websites being delayed because it's ready to go and the way it's gonna work is you can go in and put in your I think zip code and then it'll group people up by places what the problem is is that
Starting point is 01:32:25 we're trying to incorporate in California and usually takes three weeks it's been like three months or four months weird right I know so that's super liberal place so so the lawyers very confused so someone just came in to me today and said you should do it in Delaware because it takes two days thank you Delaware for being a terrible state but so that's what we might do we just want to get a rolling but basically it'll it'll definitely be up in April even if we don't have the legal papers we're just gonna fuck you put it up and then we'll get rolling but thanks for everyone who came out today yes and thank
Starting point is 01:33:04 you for all coming to this show we appreciate it thank you Columbus God speed thank you for the blankets again

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