The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 387 - Lyndon LaRouche

Episode Date: July 17, 2019

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine normal person Lyndon LaRouche.SOURCESTOUR DATESREDBUBBLE MERCH...

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Starting point is 00:00:44 American History podcast and each week I read a story from American history to my friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about and your name is Dave Anthony. That's right I'm head of HR of the dollop. Nope. And I'm also one of the hosts of the show. All right let's just and as as we had an understanding yesterday through text you need to come to HR. Let's just leave this bit off air. You need to see HR. Nope. I'm not gonna keep doing it. You talk to what you talk to Draft. You talk to a pig. How many how many characters tell you to go see HR yesterday in that text. Far too many for a man of your age to be sent next to you.
Starting point is 00:01:33 Yeah. And called it quote his jam patch. Jam patch. I'm the fucking hippo guy. Dave okay. My name's Gary. My name's Gary. Wait. Is it far fine. And this is not going to come with a glee podcast. Yeah. Now hit him with a puppy. You both present sick arguments. Actually partner. Yeah man. That's our theme song. Hot. I just and I just real quick want to play a song that I was given recently. That's okay. So there's good music out there about us. So go find it. September 8th 1922. Hey. Here of our Lord Jesus Christ. This is a religious podcast. I'd rather not be. We are spreading the word of Jesus. All right. Let's just. Let's just what. Yeah. I mean it's not. I'm not. Yeah. It's. Yes. Okay. I accept God. Let's go. Linden Hermile LaRouche Jr. was born in Rochester New Hampshire. I'm going to need one more take of a name. Linden
Starting point is 00:03:26 Hermile LaRouche Jr. Okay. Because you hear it once you're like we got to give my son this name. I could be it could be Hermole. But I really doubt it. Yeah. Had to have been a family name. Right. Yes. You don't just you don't throw that on a kid. Well I mean like unless you're in the bathtub doing a bunch of opium you're like I've got her mile her mile. Born in Rochester New Hampshire as parents Orthodox Quakers as well as really really fervent anti-communists. Really against communists. Okay. While many Quakers are known for their tolerance. Linden was from the other strain of Quakers. Okay. So he was as parents sent him to he's not the oatmeal kind. He's not the happy Quakers that we know and love and that's an interesting policy. How about we break bread. He said he's like kill him. Let's kill him break bones. His
Starting point is 00:04:18 parents sent him to Quaker summer camps. Oh what a nightmare. But not for enjoyment. No nobody's there for enjoyment. He had orders to organize other campers against Bolshevik sympathizing counselors. So what kind of camp is this. It's just a regular camp. But he's there. It's a regular camp but he's been sent in to find communists as you do with children. How old is he. He's been young. It's when he's a kid. He's like you know 10 11 10 and he's there to sniff out communists at his camp. Yeah well what would you do. Again probably probably just earn some. Did your parents not send you out to find communists in summer camps. I mean I was there. There was probably another kid doing that. I was just on like well that makes me wonder what kind of family you come like a community from a
Starting point is 00:05:03 communist family. No. Do you love America. Yeah. Lyndon. Lyndon was heavily bullied. But his parents said he did not fight back due to Quaker pacifism. So he's also a pacifist. Wait OK. There's a lot of you can find you can root out the communists. But when you find them if they push you walk away head held high. Yeah you're a pacifist. OK. What was that. That was my. Was that in you. That sound. That was in me. Boy. I'm made of mainly springs. This led to more bullying as it quote became a challenge to those who speculated on exactly how much abuse I would tolerate. Wow. So that's you know right. No. In 1932 the family moved to the Boston suburb of Lynn. OK. In 1941 Lyndon's father was expelled from the Quakers for publishing rambling conspiracy filled
Starting point is 00:06:01 accusations against other local Quakers as well as support for Hitler. Well this is developing nice isn't it. This is really coming along. OK. So yeah. Well we're I'm on side Quaker here. Yeah this is not classic Quaker behavior. No this guy's rogue. Lyndon and his mother resigned in solidarity from the Quakers. Right. OK. But they weren't like necessarily giving Hitler shoutouts they were just like where would dad. Or you know maybe maybe they weren't Hitler. Who knows. Sure. Sure. They're not writing the letters but I would imagine you're getting brainwashed quite a bit with your dad your Hitler living dad. Don't I know it. In fall 1941 Lyndon went to college at Northeastern University. He lasted one year. I got in there. Oh you did. Yeah. That's a bad
Starting point is 00:06:54 sign. Yeah. He was quote disgusted with the methodological methodological incompetence of most of my courses and the general Philistinism accompanying them. OK. So blah blah blah it's a lot of eastern talk. You wouldn't get it. Yeah. I wouldn't get it at all. Lyndon then declared himself a World War II conscientious objector but he got bored and he fell in with the Indian Communist Party. Oh sorry. I messed that up. He grew up and grew bored in 1944. He joined the army serving as a medic in Burma and India. OK. And while he was in Calcutta he fell in with the Indian Communist Party. But so he is. Yeah. Go ahead. You seeing something here. Well I'm seeing a 180 degree spin. That's right. So it's he's rebelling and if his dad's whole thing is
Starting point is 00:07:52 anti-communism he's going to he's going to ask kids try to find their way. Belling against his is there specific a specific a specific moment he's rebelling against just in general how his dad's kind of casually bringing up Hitler a lot of dinner. Yeah. I would be like it's pretty good though. I mean hey you know what else is good. Hitler good me love but Hitler also pretty good. Yeah. So he's you know the war is on. He's in he's in Calcutta. There's some cool communists around. Sure. So by the time he leaves India in 1946 he was quote a hardened Trotskyist. OK. So time to go see daddy. So Trotskyism is a Marxist ideology based on the theory of permanent revolution. OK. Boy. Endless. Believes in an economic system sort of beyond
Starting point is 00:08:40 borders is like a world system. Sure. Rather than a national one. Right. And that the working class has had to hedge money over the revolutionary class. Right. So it's a little bit different than some other ways. Right. I mean this look at it. OK. So it's pretty hardcore. Right. Hardcore shit. Lyndon returned to Lynn and in 1949 joined the local branch of a Trotskyist organization and the Socialist Workers Party. OK. So it comes home. He's in now he's just full on in to social activism. He's diving in. Yeah. He started using the pseudonym Lynn Marcus. Lynn Marcus. Yeah. So he's just changed his name. OK. Her mile. Come home. He said it was based on his army nickname Marco Polo. His army nickname was Marco Polo. Apparently.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Was that just during pool time. You know. I did see some kids the other day playing Marco Polo in the park and one would just close their eyes and the other one. Other ones would run around. Yeah. So you play Marco Polo. But not a fool. Oh just the outside of a pool. That's the future we're going to live in. Whatever. I don't know if that's a great army nickname. It's probably not a great army nickname because it kind of means like you can't see anybody. You don't know what you're doing. Yeah. OK. Anyway. Lynn got a job at a local general electric plant to recruit workers to the cause. OK. So in 1954. So that's just casually kind of bringing it up at you know like on a coffee break during a fat shoot.
Starting point is 00:10:14 Yeah. Being like man oh man. I think we all deserve a little bit more. Or everything. Yeah. Don't you think the workers should control the factory. What. I'm just eating ruffles. Yeah. We're all just eating ruffles. But it would be pretty fun to have a permanent revolution wouldn't it. And I'm not just talking in the factory. I'm talking worldwide. What if the world was the factory. I love this sour cream and cheddar kind. So. So that was the Socialist Workers Party thing. They would try to get you jobs at factories and then where you would try to. Right. You infiltrate trading the workers right. In 1954 he married Lynn who was a fellow SWP member. Wait. Sorry. He. What. He's. Sorry. His name is originally
Starting point is 00:11:01 Lyndon. He moved to Lynn. He changes his name to Lynn and he's marrying Lynn. Well her name is actually Janice Newburger but she changes to Lynn. So just everybody is slowly becoming Lynn. There's a lot of lins going on. I mean this is. Yeah. I mean look there wasn't a lot of creativity happening. There's none. I mean they're like what should we call it. What city do we live in. We'll both be Lynn. Hey Lynn. Yes Lynn. We shouldn't have done this. No not you. Sorry. The Lynn next to you. I was talking about the city. Huh. I was talking about the city. Oh well now I've got two lins over here and I'm a Lynn. What did you want Lynn. Do you guys say something about me. No not you Lynn. Sorry. We're trying
Starting point is 00:11:41 to form a room full of lins here again. It's happening. We're just trying to go to Lynn. We're. Hey what's your name. The workers union Lynn. What does it stand for. Local Lynn 142 Lynn. It's catchy. Yeah. Hi Lynn. Did you guys say something about Lynn. What. Hi Lynn. Hi I'm also Lynn. Hey bro. He said his name's Lynn. Who talks dog. Who's that person. That's me. I'm on LSD. So he gets married. They moved to New York City where the social worker party headquarters were. Lyndon read a lot. Which Lynn. Lyndon. Okay. Lyndon. I'm not going to call him Lynn. I'm going to call him Lyndon just to lack. Thank you. Yeah. For a cohesion when people keep changing their names we'll just stick with the birth name. Okay. So he
Starting point is 00:12:35 read a lot about cybernetics and computing and then became convinced Trotskyists weren't thinking big enough about transformations of the world. Okay. So the people who are looking to transform the world. The people who are looking for a world revolution are not thinking big enough. They are too tiny of thinkers. What is what's bigger. A universal workers party. Underwater life. That's right. We have to also. Move underwater. Yeah. He wrote for Socialist Publications and started a management consulting company. Okay. Which advised managers how to control workers and reduce labor cost. Okay. To control workers and reduce labor. But. What. Wait. What's the problem. This guy is does he can he pick a spot and stay
Starting point is 00:13:25 in it. So what do you mean he's gone. He's he's gone from now being a communist. No he's still doing that at night. Yes. Okay. So he's still doing it. He's daylighting as someone who's working against his cause. So hear me out. So he's he's a Trotskyist. He's trying to organize workers to essentially have a worldwide revolution where the workers are in charge. Yes. The workers run things and then but he's got to make money. Right. So he starts a management business that he knows what he knows really well is how workers organize. So he now can use that information to make some cash on the side of telling managers how to control workers and then he can use that money. You can put that money back into
Starting point is 00:14:13 his communist party. Right. So it's you see how it works. Yes. He's like a dietician who's a competitive eater. That's correct. Right. Okay. So Lyndon also now began to fancy himself as a physics expert. I've done that because he's done so much reading and once you've read enough you're like that's how physics works and most things. Yeah. Doctors everything. During one 40 hour writing binge with no food or sleep he quote. He went on a 40 hour date. This guy's okay. Now I'm a hundred percent this guy's insane. I was pretty sure this man's crazy. What are you talking about? He's just writes for 40 hours. He's an idea man. That's methie. He quote. Saw clearly for the first time the nature of the solution to the
Starting point is 00:14:58 particle field paradox. Oh he's the guy huh. Yeah. This is the guy who did it. The particle field paradox and its solution were both invented by Lyndon LaRouche. Wait. So he. This guy. He finally solved the solution. He got the solution. He found a problem. To the particle field paradox which is something that he came up with. He made up. Right. That's easy to do. Yeah. I finally answered the age old question I asked. Last week. Around this time he also began holding a psychoanalytic counseling sessions. Oh here we go. One client was a former freedom writer who committed suicide. Lyndon claimed it was due to a savage remark made by Janice. Who's Janice? His wife Lynn. Oh Lynn. Lynn too. Okay. Lyndon quote. He. So he was during
Starting point is 00:15:52 a psychoanalyzing session. This guy kills himself. He's like Janice. Not during. No but like later. It was one of his. Subsequently. Client slash patients were killed himself and he's like Janice. And he said Janice. Her eyes. He said it quote killed my last strong feeling for the marriage and in 1963 they separated. Oh. Lynn v Lynn. It's rough. Yeah. In 1964 Lyndon moved in with another social worker party member Carol Schnitzer. They never married and she but she still became Carol LaRouche. So I don't really understand how that works but she changed her name. This guy has taken the rule book and tossed it. And now let's remember he's still going by Lynn Marcus. Yes he's Lynn Marcus and now he's married
Starting point is 00:16:34 to Carol LaRouche who took his I guess what I'd call his maiden name. So problems started to arise in the Socialist Worker Party. Factional disputes. In 1966 Lyndon and Carol left the Socialist Workers Party. Okay. And in 1967 Lyndon started teaching Marxism classes at the Free School of New York. He started to recruit followers. He was pulling away from the Stalinist Progressive Labor Party. Okay. So this is this is very like these are factions. Yeah. Right. 100%. The classes also attracted students from Columbia University and Lyndon became involved with the Columbia chapter of Students for a Democratic Society which is a countrywide campus organization. Okay. And in 1968 the SDS occupied Columbia to protest
Starting point is 00:17:33 Vietnam. Big news all across the country. Lyndon's involved in that. He helped organize behind the scenes and his followers are a major part of the action. Right. But like the Socialist Worker Party the students for a Democratic Society also started splintering into factions. Right. It's just it's just the left. This is the leftist. Yes. It rings a minor bell. One was loyal to Lyndon. That group became the National Caucus of Labor Committees the NCLC. Okay. So that's his now this is his organization. Okay. NCLC. Okay. The NCLC expanded and became a prominent National Marxist organization. Okay. It published a major leftist newspaper New Solidarity. In 1971 it formed a political party the US Labor Party. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:32 They had an intense rivalry with the Communist Party USA. Okay. NCLC members disrupted communist meetings. The Communist Party in turn claimed the NCLC was being secretly run by government agents which you would think like if there's another leftist organization that is coming in and fucking up your meetings and your communists. Right. They have to be. Right. There's no way that somebody who believes as closely to I is going to do something to blow this all up. That's right. Right. To throw a little flavor into the mix. Lyndon then became obsessed with European fascism. Here it is. May as well be a boat horn in the distance. It's coming. Here it is. Here it is. In 1971 he wrote an article predicting a fascist movement
Starting point is 00:19:19 would soon rise in America. Oh dear. Oh no. He said the movement will use Jews as scapegoats and its capitalist leaders would use quote advanced brainwashing techniques to create quote left proto-fascist zombies. Oh my god Dave. Left proto-fascist zombies. But advanced brainwashing techniques is not. What. I mean that's not really realistic. Let's be honest. Advanced brainwashing techniques. Yeah what is that. I mean I would think we live in a time of advanced brainwashing techniques. He somehow had managed to be an accepted part of the left in America and was being invited to speak on college campuses. So he's you know he's out there he's part of the left movement still. Right. And he's talking all
Starting point is 00:20:06 over the place and giving out his ideas. Right. In 1971 he even debated respected a communist ABBA learner. Lyndon then began purging independent minded members from the NCLC. Smart. That's how you grow. That's right. And doing this he became surrounded by unquestioning loyal supporters. That's what you want. That's yeah. Much like his dad's hero Hitler. In January 1973 the NCLC had 600 members in 25 chapters. Okay. A couple in Europe. And then Carol left Lyndon and moved to England with another male NCLC member. So she's. Okay. Right. A new faction. Yeah she's finding some hot sex from a younger guy. I think we can pretty much gather what happened. It's pretty right. Yeah yeah no we get it. She
Starting point is 00:20:59 left with a guy. And she's like let's do this near the Thames. Let's do this near the Thames. That's not a quote. Can we just. That's what she said. We understand. She found another lover and left. I gotta fuck you under parlor. Okay. All right. All right. No. I personally know the placeless and don't. I think we get it. She went to England with a guy. Yep. I want to. I want to. Stop. No we went. She went to England with a guy. We don't need any more actual specifics of what she stopped. You take me from behind and I look at the gherkin. At the gherkin? It's a building in London. Is it? Yeah. Get some fucking culture. Getting the gherkin in front and in back. Let's keep it clean. You son of a bitch. You
Starting point is 00:21:36 led me there. So now this now this Carol and the other the dude left right after the NCLC's rivalry with the Communist Party USA's intensified. Okay. Linda started ordering the NCLC's most athletic members to undergo street fighter training. This is quite a turn. With clubs, pipes and nunchucks. Oh my God. Yeah. Nunchucks just like you find behind a dumpster. Just a street fight. They're all over the place. Yeah. For sure. Yeah. It is the 70s. So there is a lot of nunchucks. It's probably the peak of nunchucks on the street. In April, the Communist Party picketed an NCLC conference with signs comparing the NCLC to the Ku Klux Klan. Okay. Who are not great. If memory serves an abysmal organization. Yeah. The NCLC held
Starting point is 00:22:33 a meeting at which Lyndon vowed to, quote, mop the CP up in two months. Mop. Okay. Yeah. And that began operation mop up. Oh, dear Lord. Operation mop up? Yeah. Wow. He's like Mickey from Rocky. Yeah. If you were like a general. He's going, it's a war. They're declaring war against the Communist Party. A street fighting pipe nunchucking war. That's right. Classic left stuff. Yeah. It's the very, very lefty. So the NCLC battalions would storm leftist bookstores and beat anyone up who tried to stop them, which included the use of nunchucks. Jesus Christ. They're going into bookstores with nunchucks. Because the bookstores are all affiliated with a party, right? Imagine if you were in Barnes and Noble and someone
Starting point is 00:23:34 came in with nunchucks and just began beating people. Okay. First of all, it's not Barnes and Noble because Barnes and Noble isn't run by some socialist guy. It's like an affiliated book store. It's still. You're in there just like, oh. You're just reading. You're just reading. You're like, well, check out a little book. I'm going to read a little bit of us Stalin right now. And then dudes come through the door with an nunchucks. Right. And you may have a little skull fracture. Well, yeah. But that's your own fault for being in the wrong bookstore and trying to stop them, which is my favorite line in the sand. Don't try to stop them from beating you or you'll get beaten. That's right. Yeah. Okay. So in Detroit,
Starting point is 00:24:16 a partially paralyzed activist was savagely beat. 30 NCLC attackers in Philadelphia raided a leftist meeting. A witness said, quote, the stairs were a mass of blood. So they're fucking. Yeah, they're they're rolling. Yep. New Solidary ran overtly racist articles. Boy, this is really it's just it's been a subtle U turn to get here. I mean, this all started very simply. We've definitely taken some turns. Yes. In Buffalo, an all white NCLC gang terrorized a Martin Luther King society meeting going in and assaulting black members. What is like how do how do you get there from where he just was? I mean, now it's just the expansion of believing that your party is exclusive and better than everything
Starting point is 00:25:14 else essentially. Well, going through this, it's hard to do it in a linear fashion. This was one where there was just constantly shifting and moving. But he's he's he started to have some relationships with some KKK people. So there was a reason that they accused him of right, right. So there was at that Martin Luther King society meeting, there was a noticeable lack of police response. We can imagine a bunch of white people beating a bunch of black people and they're not being a police response. Can you imagine that in America? Yeah, I saw it. Somewhere in a vision. This led to a belief that law enforcement supported Operation Mop Up. Weird. So weird. There is evidence the FBI sent anonymous pamphlets to fan the
Starting point is 00:26:08 flames. Wait, I'm weirder. And promote the leftist in fighting. Dave. What? Yeah. Operation Mop Up involved at least 60 attacks. No one was critically injured, but several people were hospitalized. Okay. Then in the middle of this insane war that he started, Lyndon just declared victory and called the war over. That's how you do it. Hey, we did it, boys. That's how you do it. Mopped up a racket. We did everything we came here to do. We got the oil. Everything's gonna be fine now. It's done from here on out. The NCLC immediately left the Communist Party alone. So that was it. They just all some are like, All right, we did our thing. Okay. Many believe the real goal was to weed out uncommitted NCLC members
Starting point is 00:26:56 and deepen the commitment of remaining members. So it was like, who will fight for me? Yes, it is. And people stepped up. Yes. Fight Club the Cult. That's right. Fight Club the Cult. So he got, now he got even deeper into his psychoanalysis. Oh, good. Good, good, good. And the group at this point was definitely a cult. Yeah. I mean, every step of the way, it's only gotten stronger and stronger as a cult. He's always been, he's been, the whole thing's been weeding people out. But this now is now, now you're, okay, so you've worked on the physical. Now let's get inside of your head. That's right. He told his members, he would quote, make you organizers by taking your bedrooms away from you. I shall expose
Starting point is 00:27:34 you to the cruel fact of your impotence. I will take away from you all, you all hope that you can flee the terrors of politics to the safety of the person of life. So he's saying, I mean, without question, I'd be like, I'm leaving now. Yeah, this is officially bad. Well, you say that, but you'd also be like, I've gotten two hours sleep and this sounds awesome. Yeah. And I'd be like, and I'd be the guy with a nunchuck. So I'm in. Yeah. All right. Take away our beds. Many of the members lived in an apartment block and there he held meetings where he encouraged the group to heap vicious verbal attacks on a sole member. Okay. When the person broke down and started sobbing hysterically, Lyndon
Starting point is 00:28:15 called it a sign of psychic liberation. And he named it. This is so culty. He named it ego stripping. We've, but we've heard this in a million. I know, but it's still horrible. It's so horrible when it like starts. Yeah, but it's always the same thing. They all do this. Yeah. Where they just, by the way, how over under right now until he starts having sex with people in the cult, I'm going to say, you know what I always, I, those are the ones I, the cult stories I avoid. That's why we don't do very many cult stories because they all usually end up with a guy being like, all right, look, I'm going to fuck your daughter. You can't have sex. Nobody else can have sex. I have sex with everybody. Yeah. And then
Starting point is 00:28:53 he starts having sex with women. He's like, by the way, I should also probably start having sex with your daughter. Right. Every, that's like every cult. Yeah. So I don't do this. So this is a non fucking cult. This is a non fucking cult. Well, it's just a rare. I'll put my shirt back on. When? No, I'm gonna. I'm gonna take mine off. Okay. No. When the person. Oh yeah. So the person breaks down. So it's all being hysterical. It's called the ego stripping. And he called it quote, an act of social love. Right. Which is what you do when you verbally destroy another human. Sure. Yeah. But during sessions, he called himself Der Ascher Linker, German for the abominable one. Oh my God, this is not good.
Starting point is 00:29:36 This is an act of social love from the abominable one. The abominable one. Yeah. I'm Der Schleicher, the abominable one. An NCLC member, ex NCLC member described it as quote, pure psychological terror that transformed us into sniveling informers vying with each other for Lyndon's approval. Now, Lyndon told his followers he was being targeted for assassination by different villains. Of course, the Joker, KGB, International Drug Traffickers, Henry Kissinger, FBI, the I told Kamini. Oh my God. Muhumar Gaddafi. This list is okay. So what's the plan? Well, blow up the world. Look, I mean, look, there's a lot of sneaky dudes in there. Yeah. It's a bad list to have as a bad list of people who want to kill you. If all those people
Starting point is 00:30:31 want to kill you, you will be killed. Particularly Henry Kissinger. If Henry Kissinger wants you dead, you almost die instantly. When a puddle with blinking eyeballs can kill you, you know it's dangerous. How is Kissinger still alive? He's not at this point. He's like clay that needs to get shaped again. God. Exactly, Henry. He warned followers that if they let the CIA kidnap and torture them, quote, it's not the pain that brainwashing people. What kills you is when you eat excrement as a way. Oh my God. What? In his world, the CIA has you in a room and they're just beating you until you eat shit. Well, he's saying you eat your own shit as a way of letting them
Starting point is 00:31:43 know that you've lost your mind. And are they the ones putting you up to this or are you just eventually like, I've proven it. I think you're getting tortured so much. I went there. At some point, you're like, guard, I'm gonna eat my poop now. Guard, guard, I have an update. I'm officially broken. Look at what I've eaten. There is a lot of fecal play in prison. Well, you're just talking about the musical, right? Yeah. Okay. He then wrote a new solidarity editorial titled, Will you eat shit for Rockefeller's CIA? So this is a pan. He's gonna kick a little further down the street then, is it? So he's fallen in love with something that he said and he's like, I really think there's a future
Starting point is 00:32:25 here in the fact that the CIA makes you eat poo. I'm onto something with the shitting stuff. I know I am. And then you know what happens. They're gonna make you eat poo again. I mean, I studied physics. I'm actually the guy who solved that problem I created. The shitting problem. Yeah, I found out. Yeah, like they say in science, find a hole and fill it. Good shit. So then Linin said a German NCLC member was brainwashed by a KGB CIA team, which is pretty common for those two to... Well, I mean, you laugh, but those two work together a ton. Like people think they were investigating each other. They were forming the C-I-J-K-G-B-A. That's right. Yeah. And given orders to assassinate him. Mm-hmm. When
Starting point is 00:33:08 they're working in conjunction, you are an enemy. Yeah. And of course, they want to take down some crazy cult leader. Yeah. But Linin foiled the plot by recognizing the symptoms of brainwashing and deprogramming the assassin using techniques, quote, absolutely unprecedented in psychological science. Dave, let's go to the video. Oh, we don't have video evidence of this. Oh, that's interesting. So he's just sort of, it's hearsay. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. That's very much the definition of, he's just like, hey, this thing happened. Well, and I use my... Since you guys were eating lunch, I've got a crazy update. I just got a man from the CIA to eat his poop. I'm fucking crazy good at this. All right. Linin wrote
Starting point is 00:33:51 internal NCLC documents, wrote in an internal NCLC document in August, quote, rats see them approaching, see their BDIs. So many BDIs all looking at us. Ugh. It seems almost that rats have hands. CIA rats, KGB rats, FBI rats, trade union official rats, left rats generally, rats, rats, rats, be impotent. The rats hate anything which is not impotent. There are so many rats, gigantic, awfully, monstrous, beetles, malevolent beetles with BDIs, beetle eyes, and gigantic sexual organs are coming to rape us. Oh, man. Anyway, enjoy your breakfast, guys. Anyways. All right, enough Alex Jones for everyone. Wow. So... That's kind of rat writing. It's getting a little crazy. What? Yeah. I'm starting to
Starting point is 00:34:48 feel uncomfortable. He's just getting into rat stuff. Boy oh boy. Linin began to write a lot more. It'd be great if someone had to, like, if that was a dictation. Andrea, come in here. I've got a note I want to give you. Rats, rats, rats, they're all coming. Beaty little eyes. Rats, the lot of them. Rats, rats, rats. Yeah. I hate the beetles. The band? Yep, especially Jon. He's a rat. He ate his own poo. CIA made him. Rats, rats, rats, rats, rats, rats, rats, rats, rats, rats, beetles, rats, poo ate Jon. Signed, Linden, Lin, Hermile, from Lin, the second. Junior. Would you read that back to me? You seem like you're really into scat, like it's repetitive. Well, it's just what, it's the prison they've put us in. We have
Starting point is 00:35:59 no choice but to fight. Okay. So I'm gonna just drop this and scream and run. Okay. Yep. Ready? Linda began to write a lot more. One example is a 26,000 word piece. That's a lot. Called, quote, the sexual impotence of the Puerto Rican Socialist Party. Oh, sweet God. This is just like, hard to even like, this guy's beginning harder and harder to mock because you're like, this is genuinely horrible. Yeah, look, the Puerto Rican Socialist can't fuck. Oh boy. That's my, I'm gonna, I'll change the title, but right now it's the Puerto Rican Socialist can't fuck. So that, that, that like covered everything from Hegel to the agony of self-consciousness to racial, racist ramblings on Latin American macho culture. And these kind of, these kind of writings become his thing,
Starting point is 00:36:54 like it's just happening all the time. These just, they're sort of just rants about whatever a crazy man is thinking. Sure. We call it Twitter. Yes. So Carol, member Carol. Yep, ex who went to England with that guy. Carol, not married yet. She was banging the guy at the Gherkin. So he returns. The guy. Yeah, the guy. Carol stays. The Carol was banging. He comes back to New York. Alone. I don't know if it's with, with or without her. Didn't find that out. So so Lyndon decided that this guy had been brainwashed when he came back and he D programs. Okay. And then he said, the boyfriend had been tortured by the CIA and MI six and given a trigger word. Oh. And once he heard that trigger word, he would kill Carol. So he's, did he write the naked gun
Starting point is 00:37:44 because that is the plot. And he would, I'm not sure when the Manchurian candidate came out. Oh, right. It was way before this. So yeah, this is clearly just taken from the right 62. Yeah. So he just took it from I. Hey, Lyndon, I know I love your rights, but I like, but I remember seeing this in a movie. Yeah. What Frank? It's a Frank Sinatra. The Manchurian candidate. Sounds pretty close. Nope. Nope. It's a movie. Yeah, it's a no not ringing any bells. But this is different. This is basically what we're just going to take somebody and manipulate them to the point that that, you know, they are able to do the bidding of the system. And that's what we're fighting against. No sort of Mandarin candidate or whatever you're talking about. So yeah, there's none of that.
Starting point is 00:38:43 And I don't even think that's a movie. Has anyone even heard of that movie? Yeah, exactly. Nobody's heard of it except for those hands that went up. So nobody's heard of it. Everybody raised that nobody's heard of it. It was a movie night here. We did that on the movie night here. All right. Here it is. Cat's out of the bag. I wrote the Manchurian candidate. There we go. Oh my God, it's amazing. But I wrote it based on this situation. And I went back in time and wrote it then. Wow. So I just have placed that in you guys this week. Were there, were there rats? Were there rats and shit eaters? I'm not. I know what you guys are after. You want a rat rant? You're not going to milk one out of me. No, I'm not. What rat rant? Rat, rat, rat, rat, rat, rat. They're beating
Starting point is 00:39:28 little eyes are coming down his feet. It's right here, baby. So, right, so he deprograms this guy and and also the the boyfriend. One of the other things he'd been brainwashed to do was to convince Cubans in the USA to assassinate Lyndon. Sure. Quite a list of people trying to kill this guy. Yeah, I mean, it's it's a hard job stuff. Yeah. Lyndon, quote, any of you who say this is a hoax, you're cruds, you're subhuman, you're not serious. The human race is at stake. Either we win or there is no humanity. It is very Alex Jonesy. Yeah. The boyfriend wrote flyers about his brainwashing, and then those were passed out in cities. In cities, okay. The NCLC sent tapes of his deprogramming to the New York Times. Sure. So, audio tapes of when he was deprogrammed by Lyndon. Finally.
Starting point is 00:40:26 The Times article, which is written on this quote, there are sounds of weeping and vomiting. Oh my god, that's quite a start. And Mr. White complains of being deprived of sleep, food, and cigarettes. At one point. That's quite a list for that guy to be complaining too. I need the basics. Water, food, Marlboro. At one point, someone says, raise the voltage. But LaRouche says this was associated with the bright lights used in the questioning rather than an electric shock. Well, but to be fair, you know how it is when like you want someone to turn the lights on. Yeah. You just like hit the voltage button. Like that's how we say it. So it had to be about the light. Just imagine being so crazy that you torture a guy and then send that as a tape to the New
Starting point is 00:41:14 York Times. Yeah. Look, we found out this information here. And he's just puking and whining. And you're like, what do you think, huh? Not easy. People say I have it easy. I don't. I do not. You heard what I had to put that man through. I turned those lights on real bright, Adam. Any NCLC members who are skeptical lend an accused of being in on the plot. Well, then it's time to leave because otherwise he's going to deprogram you. Yeah, I don't want that. No. In January of 1974, a member wrote a note saying she was being held prisoner and forced to listen to Beethoven at a high volume.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Okay. But so he is just like, I mean, is the clockwork orange? He's just lifting plots. This is also a Scientology thing. Okay, great. To help people, prisoners, and a lot of music and stuff. She made it so she wrote this note and she folds it into a paper airplane and throws it out the window. Oh, God. And someone gets it. Oh my God. Imagine finding whatever this is about to say. Imagine what this is. Oh my God. Where? What the hell? How? Police came and they were greeted by NCLC members who said they were staying with her because she'd been brainwashed to kill Lyndon.
Starting point is 00:42:27 You don't understand. We've got to turn the voltage up. And they were like, okay, well, that's what we know what you guys are going to do. Put her in a cell, make her eat her poo. No, thank you very much. Poo eater. By early 1974, anyone who questioned Lyndon was out of the NCLC. Okay. By mid-1974, Lyndon made connections with the Ku Klux Klan and neo-Nazis. Great. So we are finally, we finally arrived at our destination. Sure, we wanted to be always. Lyndon and NCLC members met with Klan leaders and neo-Nazis. In 1975, Lyndon said the real enemy was the non-NCLC left and the NCLC should, quote,
Starting point is 00:43:02 cooperate with the right to defeat this common enemy. Oh my God. Right? Yeah. I mean, look, if you have an enemy. So in 1976, now going by Lyndon LaRouche. Okay. So now he's changed his name back. Yeah. From Lynn Marcus. Right. He ran as the UCLP's presidential nominee. So that's the party he made way back when then we talked about. Okay. So he's now finally running for president. And they've, they've already run a bunch of candidates around the country in, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:31 smaller races. Right. Right. And a third party. But I think they hated races. Hey, here in Ring the Bell. Hey, we're killing it in here. At a third party debate, Lyndon said if Carter won, there would quickly be a global financial collapse followed by a nuclear war. This is in a debate. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. And he said what happened next. Counterpoint, Jimmy? Well, I don't believe he has any factual information to back that up. He won 40,000 primary votes. They had 140 USLP candidates in 21 states.
Starting point is 00:44:10 And they won more nationwide votes than any left wing third party. Wow. And more votes than all but one right wing third party. Wow. Lyndon went to a conference. There's an appetite. There is. People want this kind of great information. They want to hear something new and interesting. Yeah. Lyndon went to a conference in Germany in 1977 and...
Starting point is 00:44:31 I was just about to say get this guy to Germany. Hurry. And there he met Helge Zepp. When he returned... Is this person animated? Yes, she is a cartoon character. When he returned, he called Jews a, quote, subhuman oligarchical species and claimed a Jewish conspiracy. Was this at customs? Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:52 Sir, we're just asking how long you were there. And he claimed a Jewish conspiracy had put Hitler into power and brainwashed Nazis into their atrocities. Wow. That is quite a theory. It really... That is really... It really doesn't hold up. It would be like, we're going to play a game called,
Starting point is 00:45:12 How do you offend Jewish people about the Holocaust the most? It's really the worst. You guys did it. You came up with Hitler. Wait, what? Uh-huh. This is the worst idea ever. Sneaky-steaky? Not sneaky. Nice try.
Starting point is 00:45:25 This is literally the worst idea I've... Ah, no. We've got proof. Got a ton of proof. Look at this. You have no proof. Well, still, look at the palm of my hand. Yeah. That's my love line.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Okay, I gotta go. It stops here, so I'll probably get married again. Good to meet you. He also started using British as a code word for Jewish. Oh, God. That means you're... That means you're saying bad things. For example, he claimed Israel, the Rothschilds, and quote, other British families,
Starting point is 00:45:59 were planning a new Holocaust. We all know how the Rothschilds, bingo. They're planning a new Holocaust 100 times worse than Hitler's. Wow. In December, he married Helga. She was 55, he was 29. That can't be right. What?
Starting point is 00:46:12 Oh, he was 55, she was 29. Okay. By the way, how amazing is it that we live in a world where that first one was like, what? And this new one is like, right, okay, gotcha. Yes, finally, yes. And Lyndon was now openly fascist. Well, you know, that's the title of the movie.
Starting point is 00:46:27 He's a hell of a trip to Germany. Openly fascist. Hell of a trip to Germany. Yeah, yeah. Quote, it's not necessarily to wear a swastika to be a fascist. It is not necessary to call oneself a fascist to be a fascist. It is simply necessary to be one. That's a pretty strong take.
Starting point is 00:46:43 Dumb quote. Lyndon now solidified what he called the grand design, which became the driving force behind his expanding network. They're now known as the LaRoucheans. That name is. It's not great. Or rent. There's also a lot of this, wherever they go.
Starting point is 00:47:01 How do you spell that? Yeah, right, yeah. Two words? Is the R capitalized? Yeah, the R's capitalized. And that's OU. And the A's big too, or it's little? The A's little.
Starting point is 00:47:10 Boy, I'm not fine, you guys in here. You guys have a table. You guys have a table at this expo? Yeah, big L, little, little A. Yeah, have a big L. Big R. A little A, big R. Two words.
Starting point is 00:47:20 OUCHINS. Hyphenated? No. Oh, I've been hyphenating it. Yeah. I think there's two words. Yeah. Oh, I guess that makes it one more.
Starting point is 00:47:28 Okay, here we go. We should have gone with the Lindens. That is catchy. Or the Lin, the Lins. You see, easy to find. The plan was for America. This is the grand design, right? And then the world to defeat the centuries old Jewish cabal
Starting point is 00:47:43 and become a totalitarian dictatorship ruled by a small elite of golden souls who had mastered Lindens philosophies. So just normal stuff. Great. So basically just a few people, a few of the Chosens live here. You want to get rid of the Jewish cabal
Starting point is 00:47:59 and replace it with a small cabal of lunatics. Right, right. Like a small. Yes. People who weren't golden souls would become soldier citizens with no freedom. Great. Now that is, that's also a fun sell.
Starting point is 00:48:11 So you can either be a golden soul or you can be one of these foot soldiers. Yeah, it's a slave soldier basically. Great, finally. Schools would teach Linens ideas which would lead to unprecedented technology, technological leaps. By the way, the whole time you've been talking,
Starting point is 00:48:26 I've just been thinking, this guy has an eye towards the future of technology. Yeah, he sees, he's, he gets it. He's kind of like Silicon Valley in his brain. Bingo. LaRoucheans began fundraising at airports and crowded businesses. Their goal was to get large loans for research.
Starting point is 00:48:42 They told people. You're going to get those at airports. Yes. That's where you're going to get your 100K. They stopped that, but that was a thing for a long time. I only know that because of watching the movie Airplane. Of course, that's how most people know.
Starting point is 00:48:54 But right, it must, yeah. So what, just like tons and tons of people asking for. Yeah, well, this was before, this is when you could just go to the gate, right? So there was no security, so you could just walk around. I don't know if I can talk about this. I'm going to feel sick about how easy it was to get on a plane. Yeah, those were the days when...
Starting point is 00:49:08 You were just like, hey, I have a ticket. Yeah, because now we need a group to go through that doesn't actually do anything. Yeah. Except take your water, so you have to buy more. And your shampoo. It's weird. It's almost like they've made billions of dollars
Starting point is 00:49:19 selling water on the other side of those security... Yeah, but you know how easy... LaRoucheans began fundraising at airports and crowded businesses. Their goal was to get large loans for research. They told people they would get huge returns. Uh-huh. They're out there.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Uh-huh. They start taking advantage of senior citizens who are taking the bait and loans were rarely repaid. The fundraisers would bring in $200 million over the years. Wow. LaRoucheans ran various businesses. One, a computer programming company had clients including Citibank, Mobile Oil, and AT&T.
Starting point is 00:49:54 Good, all good companies. So all this happens with these groups. They start pooling the money from all the Colt members. I read about one guy and he was like married and then he got into the NCLC and then he left his wife and then he gave all their money to the Colt and then they had to give like $20 a month to Linden
Starting point is 00:50:25 which was a pretty decent amount at the time. And so they would just all go on unemployment or welfare and just give the money to him. That's cool. Yeah, that's a cool chill system. Yeah, so he's just basically raking in money and then now that's investing it. Eventually he needs more money.
Starting point is 00:50:43 So now he's getting corporate infusion. And then you also go after like a guy who owns a company and you get him into the Colt, you know, it's all that. Right, right. Good stuff. Yeah. Linden gained influence through the NCLC's Worldwide Intelligence Gathering apparatus.
Starting point is 00:50:59 Okay. Okay. What is, I'm picturing a robot with no wires. So a member of Reagan's National Security Council said it was quote, one of the best private intelligence services in the world. Wait, which was? So the NCLC has created an intelligence gathering group and now the Reagan.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Is saying that they're the best intelligence gatherers in the world. One of the best. Wow. NCLC higher ups. We're now being invited to sit in on NSC meetings. Oh my gosh. So they make connections with the Reagan.
Starting point is 00:51:32 David. Convince the Reagan people that they were smart and gathering intelligence that was important and now they're literally sitting in on NSC meetings. Oh boy. Could you imagine an administration where crazy people sit on NSC meetings? No.
Starting point is 00:51:50 It's, someday that'll happen maybe. NCLC agents impersonated media and exaggerated Lyndon's credentials. They strategically picked sides in international disputes and dozens of governments then paid them to gather intelligence. So they would like the. Pick the rich side. Falkland and England.
Starting point is 00:52:09 The Falklands, England and Argentina and then they would go. Okay. So England on this one and then they would give England the information they wanted and get money and. Right. The NCLC published a periodical executive intelligence review and it ran a lot of bad intel. This was partly due to Roy Frankenhauser,
Starting point is 00:52:31 the grand dragon of the Pennsylvania KKK who befriended Lyndon in 1979. Jesus Christ. Roy said he was a messenger for a mysterious intelligence operative named, codenamed Mr. Ed. What? He made, he just made that up. Mr. Ed.
Starting point is 00:52:52 Well, the source is a source, of course, of course. And no one can talk to a source, of course. That is, of course, unless the source. Mr. Ed would pass messages to the highest. Dave, how am I going to do anything but picture a horse doing this? No, I couldn't either. I mean, it's the most fucked up thing ever. I've got something from downtown.
Starting point is 00:53:12 What is it, Mr. Ed? Mr. Ed passed messages to the highest levels of the CIA in White House and was always telling Roy about wild plots against Lyndon's life. Okay. So, right, so this is, mysterious character who's got all these connections. Of course.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And he also keeps telling Lyndon, which Lyndon already says, but now he's just getting it reaffirmed. Right. Lyndon said Roy could, quote, detect nasties by their wiggle. Oh, my God. Which we all, I mean, the best could do that.
Starting point is 00:53:43 Yeah, for sure. But Mr. Ed did not exist. Roy made him up. Interesting. Most of the intelligence was made up by Roy and Roy even had a friend pretend he was Mr. Ed and go to meetings with Lyndon. Oh, that guy.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Dude, what if he knows? Just shut up, just sit there, just nod. He's fucking crazy. Just look, not into it. In 1980, Lyndon ran for president again. His platform included building a tunnel under the Bering Strait, his own version of quantum physics,
Starting point is 00:54:14 and making his wedding anniversary a week-long national holiday. It's so Trump. It is. It really is. Yeah. He dissolved the USLP and ran as a Democrat. Oh, my God, this guy.
Starting point is 00:54:33 Well, he thought there's not a conservative wing of the Democratic Party, so I'll fill that for you. Right, right, right. The DNC couldn't legally ban him from entering primaries. So Lyndon ran a national half-hour TV ads describing himself as similar to FDR. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:54:51 And his name recognition shot up. People magazine said he had the quote, best organized fringe campaign in American history. He won 185,000 votes in 15 states. Now, he's getting matching funding. So when you hit a certain amount, you can get matching funding. So he's getting money.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Like, this is all totally doable financially, right? In the early 1980s, Lyndon focused on his scientific organization. So he has a scientific organization called the Fusion Energy Foundation on a space-based beam weapon. What? The FEF recruited respected scientists and was praised by a government physicist
Starting point is 00:55:34 for its, quote, top drawer technical expertise. The FEF lobbied and met with Reagan administration top officials about the space-based beam weapons program. So they met with Ronald Reagan's administration about making a space beam? You're about to say yes. Yeah. What?
Starting point is 00:56:00 That's fucking crazy. In 1983, February 1983, Lyndon wrote that beams weapons would become, quote, a household word in America during the month of March. What? Okay. In March, Ronald Reagan announced the Strategic Defense Initiative, a.k.a. Star Wars, a space-based beam weapons program.
Starting point is 00:56:26 Oh, what? Oh, god damn it. What happened? It's just impossible. We need the beam weapon. The FEF became the de facto Star Wars spokespeople and were often quoted in the media as respected space beam weapons experts.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Well, that is an oxymoronic title. Like, here are the racist space beam experts. People want to act like Trump is this unique thing. Yeah. We've fucking been here before. Yeah. And it's just that nobody, everyone acts like it didn't. We've been here.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Yeah. The LaRoucheans moved to a compound in rural Leesburg, Virginia, an hour outside of DC, because, quote, the terrorist organizations, which have targeted Mr. LaRouche, do not have bases of operations of Virginia. A cult member later said Lyndon was just isolating supporters to make them, quote,
Starting point is 00:57:23 totally creatures of the organization. The compound was guarded by men in camouflage with automatic weapons. Jesus Christ. LaRoucheans focused their support on Reagan's 1984 election. They recruited 2,000 candidates to run in primaries nationwide,
Starting point is 00:57:42 but they weren't actually running. Their whole goal was to just smear Democratic candidate, Walter Mondale. So on every, all these 2,000 races around the country, you just have a Republican, a Democrat, and then... A person saying this person is terrible. Democrat is often just talking shit about their own presidential candidate.
Starting point is 00:58:03 Right, right. Most had no connection to Lyndon, and were just confused senior citizens or ultra-conservatives trying to help Reagan. Well, that sounds like the Democrats. Despite running as Democrats, they praised Reagan and Star Wars while savagely attacking Mondale. In 1984, NBC reporter Pat Lynch ran an expose
Starting point is 00:58:26 about LaRoucheans' ties to the Reagan administration, particularly the National Security Council. In it, the Anti-Defamation League called Lyndon an anti-Semite, and LaRoucheans then picketed NBC with signs reading Lynch, Pat Lynch, and posted flyers in Lynch's parents' neighborhood claiming she was running a call girl ring
Starting point is 00:58:50 out of their home. Oh, my God. See, this is how... And this is still going on today. This right-wing tactic of, if you say anything about us, our attacks on you will be vicious to the point... It's pure intimidation, and it works. Lyndon sued NBC and the Anti-Defamation League
Starting point is 00:59:11 for defamation. Oh, my God. That is so amazing. That is amazing. For what? Defamation. Should have seen this coming. No, we're the Anti-Defamation League.
Starting point is 00:59:23 Nah, well, you defamed us. Nice try, liars. Lyndon was extensively questioned in the courtroom. A juror, quote, all of us had sores on the inside of our cheeks, either from biting them to keep from laughing or to keep from screaming. Oh, wow. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:59:40 Lyndon lost the case, and he paid $3 million to NBC for directing supporters to impersonate Lynch and her staff. Oh, my God. This is crazy. And yet the Reagan administration refused to speak out against Lyndon, LaRouche. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:55 LaRoucheans picked up fundraising for Reagan, asking elderly conservatives to hand over their life savings to, quote, help President Reagan keep America strong. In 1986, LaRouchean candidates won Democratic nominations for Lieutenant Governor and Secretary of State in Illinois. Oh, my God. Now, there's tons of corruption in Chicago, and everyone gets mad at it.
Starting point is 01:00:17 So no one was expecting it because they weren't following election returns. So the LaRoucheans don't think anything's going to happen. They're not following election returns. So at the time that the election results are coming in, the LaRoucheans are holding a mock exorcism outside of the house of a professor. You're the Lieutenant Governor.
Starting point is 01:00:36 Who they said was an evil warlock. I'm trying to fix this warlock. What's going on? You guys, you're the Lieutenant Governor now. I have it. There's a demon in this. Are you serious? You won. What?
Starting point is 01:00:48 Well, they just won the Democratic primary. Oh, the primary, OK. But still, it fucks everything up. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In her victory speech, the LaRouchean Secretary of State nominee said, quote, I'm going to revive the spirit of Abraham Lincoln and General Patton.
Starting point is 01:01:05 We're going to roll our tanks down State Street. Well, here we go. A lot of Dems had cast protest votes against the corrupt Democratic machine, but LaRoucheans campaigned vigorously to get white working class voters with their anti-drug and anti-crime platform. An Illinois pollster said, quote,
Starting point is 01:01:22 this wasn't a fluke. They seized an opportunity. Still, the LaRouchean lost in the general election, but he caused the Dem to lose, too, which was the goal. Well, then the Democratic Party's goal was for the LaRoucheans to lose. That's right. It's a shit show.
Starting point is 01:01:37 A couple of months later, the Secretary of State nominee threw a pound of raw liver at the feet of the Milwaukee Archbishop for supporting the International Monetary Fund. Wow. In California, Lenin created the Prevent AIDS Now Initiative Committee. I have a feeling it's not going to be
Starting point is 01:01:59 the way that we would all hope to prevent. Prevent AIDS Now Initiative Committee spells out panic. Okay. It was to promote his belief that AIDS was a, quote, manmade evil linked to cults out of Babylon. He said AIDS could be spread by air, rats, and mosquitoes. I mean, I was in California at this time. I remember this.
Starting point is 01:02:19 It was unfuckin' believable. Right. Using the slogan, quote, spread panic, not AIDS, LaRouchean gathered 700,000 signatures to get Proposition 64 on the 1986 ballot, which called for the quarantine of AIDS patients. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:36 Yeah. There AIDS propaganda was identical to Nazi syphilis propaganda. Prop 64 got over 2 million votes, 29% of the total. Wow. That's too much. Yeah. So it's still a win for Lenin. His biographer later wrote, quote, LaRouche scored a major ideological breakthrough for neo-Nazism in America.
Starting point is 01:02:59 He took a previously taboo idea and forced isolation for the scapegoat and elevated it to a topic of legitimate discourse. Imagine that happening. Yeah. Can't imagine. But Lenin's financial empire was unraveling. A grand jury in Boston indicted a LaRouchean organization on credit card fraud, and Lenin asked Roy Frankhauser
Starting point is 01:03:21 to send Mr. Ed to investigate. Yeah. Well, we know who we gotta call. Who? Mr. Ed. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Well, here's the thing. He is now teaching scuba lessons. Scuba or scuba? He's a horse? He's a horse.
Starting point is 01:03:42 What? Have you ever seen the show, Mr. Ed? Yeah. It's that guy. What are you talking about? He's the guy. I had meetings with this guy. He's, oh, that guy.
Starting point is 01:03:49 He said I am a no CIA people. That guy, that guy, yeah, he teaches scuba now. He's a scuba teacher. Who's the horse? The horse, you know, he's the horse. He's the horse, of course. So he sends Roy, he gives Roy money to investigate with Mr. Ed, but Roy instead went to a Star Trek convention in Scranton.
Starting point is 01:04:16 Hey, how's the investigation going? Really good. Put your phaser. Not now. It's really good. We're actually knee deep in this right now. God, I'll tell you, Mr. Ed is, he's a pit bull when you get him out of here. Put Mr. Ed on the phone. That is, he's the guy.
Starting point is 01:04:31 That is not going to be possible right now. Well, he, uh, He's with Spock. He called Lyndon from the convention and warned him that the FBI had wiretapped Lyndon's phones. So he just gave him like a little bit of stuff to go crazy on. Yeah. Hey, you know, but they did tap your phones.
Starting point is 01:04:47 Well, that's the week. Uh, so Roy, uh, very soon after was arrested on a variety of charges, and he cooperated with prosecutors and testified. Did he give up Mr. Ed? Well, he did talk about Mr. Ed. They testified the Liberty's organization asked him to assassinate former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, among other things. Why didn't that happen?
Starting point is 01:05:10 Like, why couldn't one good thing come out of this? Like they kill, they kill Kissinger. Like, so Lyndon was called as a defense witness. He can't kill Liquid. It's true. Lyndon was called as a defense witness for Roy, but he used his Fifth Amendment rights and didn't testify. Right.
Starting point is 01:05:28 Okay. Roy was found guilty of his obstructing justice for Lyndon, and it was sentenced to three years in prison. And then he was given testimony. I mean, he was given immunity to testify against Lyndon. Right. Okay. So he also, during that trial, explained that Mr. Ed wasn't real.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Oh, man, imagine Lyndon's face. What he's hearing that? Lyndon ran for president in 1988. LaRouchean candidates won more local Democratic primaries than ever. But a court found Lyndon guilty of 11 counts of male fraud and conspiring to defraud the IRS on January 28, 1989. So he wasn't under audit? That's right.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Okay. Now, January 28, 1989, Lyndon got a 15-year sentence, and he was sent to a federal prison in Minnesota. Now, Helga's in charge. Okay. So Helga turns all the LaRouchean resources to her passion project, lowering the standard international orchestral tuning pitch by an imperceptible amount from 440 hertz to 432 hertz. Wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Wait, wait, wait. Now, hold on a minute. Now, okay. The new goal is to get the, one more time. The international orchestral tuning pitch, the standard low from 440 hertz to 432 hertz. A tuning fork, essentially, what that'll be set at. I really don't understand it.
Starting point is 01:07:05 Well, I think it's just saying that, well, it's basically saying like, Well, it's an imperceptible amount. Like it's almost like you can't. Yes, yes, yes. And an esoteric author had claimed 432 hertz was the correct tuning for cosmic potential unlockings, and that at 44 hertz, it caused aggressive and antisocial behavior. So that's the problem.
Starting point is 01:07:26 So we get this right. Everything's peace on earth. Peace on earth. Right. So the Ruchin's got dozens of opera's biggest names, including Placido Domingo. Just so you know, what you're saying is insane. What?
Starting point is 01:07:47 And Luciano Pavarotti too. Pavarotti, does he have any idea what he's showing up to? He signed a petition asking Italian parliament to lower the national standard pitch. He signed it? Yeah. What? They both did.
Starting point is 01:07:59 How? Fuck, I don't know, man. But then the ties to the Ruchin's were publicized, and the campaign fell apart. Okay. Lyndon, meanwhile in jail, claimed his cell was bugged, and he ran for president in 1992. Well, it's quite a back to back.
Starting point is 01:08:16 He did not do well in Democratic primaries, but ran in the general election in states that allowed imprisoned candidates. Sure. And he got the second fewest votes nationally of any candidate. Imagine being the last. I really should not be in politics. That's all this is saying. He was released in January 1994,
Starting point is 01:08:33 and yet in the 1996 Democratic primaries, he won enough votes in Louisiana and Virginia to get delegates at the National Convention. My god. The party instructed states to disregard his votes. So no convention delegates vote for him. In 2000, he runs for president again, and he gets 22% of the vote in the Arkansas Democratic primary.
Starting point is 01:08:54 This gave him six delegates at the convention, and the national party again refused to allow his delegates. And then came 9-11, and Lyndon took a strong stand against the Bush administration, especially Dick Cheney. And with his huge opposition to the Iraq War, this activism created a big presence on college campuses and brought him in many new young recruits. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:09:16 So it's a classic cult. A member said leaders, quote, were constantly asking us if we would die for these ideas. Every morning at 8 a.m., the followers at the Virginia Compound would sing old slave spirituals, followed by hearing apocalyptic news briefing from Lyndon or another leader, and then they'd spend the day fundraising
Starting point is 01:09:35 and recruiting until 10 p.m. In 1904, Lyndon ran for president. In 2004. Sorry, 2004. He ran for president. He told his followers, quote, I have a better chance of being elected than you have of surviving if I'm not.
Starting point is 01:09:52 That's cool to hear. Best campaign slogan ever. Yeah, awesome. All right, yeah. Do it or we're going to die. Can't you see Trump saying that? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:01 In 2008 and 2012 elections, Lyndon went after Obama, calling him, quote, the new Hitler, which is weird because he likes Hitler, but, you know. Right, yeah. He called climate change a hoax. They disrupted environmental rallies. And they spent 2016 mocking Trump, quote, he's a festering pustule on Satan's rump.
Starting point is 01:10:19 Don't you be a chump for Trump? They would chant that. Rhymes a bunch. But after Trump won, Lyndon praised Trump's, quote, intent to end the policies of British imperial free trade and make a full commitment to industry manufacturing scientific advancement
Starting point is 01:10:34 and world peace. Roger Stone spoke at a LaRouche convention. Of course. And then Lyndon began suffering from dementia. He started posting. He began? He started posting YouTube videos that were nonsensical, like even more nonsensical than they could be.
Starting point is 01:10:49 One example, quote, we are about to do a job on the study of China with the idea of the development of the back of the moon. The back of the moon is very specific kind of physical principle. That principle, when properly understood, will change the history of mankind. On February 12th, 2019, Lyndon LaRouche died at the age of 96.
Starting point is 01:11:11 When? February 12th. Wow. 2019. His followers refused to tell the media and the location and the cause of his death. Wow. Jesus Christ. How do you feel?
Starting point is 01:11:27 I don't know. Not good, but I do know. I mean, you know that, like, you're right. I think that everybody treats Trump like an anomaly. Like, how did this happen? And then there are just so many little things that... Yeah, we've been here. Yeah, and clearly there has been a history of this sort of...
Starting point is 01:11:48 That's right. People act like Reagan. I know. Reagan was incredibly similar to this. Yeah. I mean, aside from the crazy sexual stuff... His whole thing was Make America Great Again. He's Make America Great Again. He put a wreath on a Nazi's grave.
Starting point is 01:12:04 He did the Star Wars shit. Like, Reagan was out of his fucking mind, and so were the people around him, and it is very similar. Yeah. Yeah. It's cool. It is cool. It's a cool time.
Starting point is 01:12:20 Ha ha ha ha ha. Ah. Um, I just want to say... I'm going to read this. Go ahead and talk or whatever you do. I just can't. It's like, it's also got a little bit of a hint of tea party to it, too. It does.
Starting point is 01:12:41 Like, just with the sense of extremely organized playing to, you know, a section and being very, very fucking aggressive. And, you know, that works. Yeah. And it's like, I don't know, and, you know, that works. There are so many factions today that it's like, it's hard to even know.
Starting point is 01:13:08 I mean, it's still as crazy that we're represented by two parties. Oh, totally. I mean, how... Yeah, no, but that's just the way the system is. You're never going to get away from that.

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