The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 405 - The Rabbit Situation - Live w/Rob Delaney

Episode Date: November 28, 2019

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podcast that we recorded in London last week with Rob Delaney who gives us a nice special message but Rob is hilarious so please check this one out and well this one gets a little spicy. This is a bicyclist American history podcast where each week I read a story about bicycles from American sometimes English history to my friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about and tonight we have a guest a man who fleed from America in terror as we would all like to and found a better place to live. He is a star of the show Catastrophe Rob

Delaney. Hi. Hi Rob. Hello. Hi everyone. Thanks. Thanks for having me. Thank you for being here. I like coming. I like coming. I like coming. I just like let's get real you guys. I like an orgasm. I like coming to other countries and seeing faces I know from where I'm from. Yeah well we all knew each other in Los Angeles years ago and you made the stand-ups at the same time. Yeah I did a podcast with you once in Greg Barron's closet. That's right. I used to watch your sketch show the B team with IO days a long time ago. So yeah I probably know you as well as your moms. That's sad it's true. You don't know my family. I saw a

picture of Dave's dad yesterday and it looks like Dave if you just threw a ton of baby powder on it. It was like genuinely I was like oh shit that is very real. My god. Except when you squeeze me whiskey doesn't come out so it's a little bit different. No anger does. That's because of the whiskey that never made sense. It all fits together. Yeah. I would like Rob to say a few words about something that's coming up here in England. Yeah you want me to I mean I he asked me to say something about the upcoming election. I mean I don't know if I need to for you guys. I mean I know you got four days left to register to

vote. I won't tell you how to vote but I'll tell you personally I'm an enemy of austerity which is a choice. It's just a thing that the government I love when they're like how are we gonna pay for it. I'm like walk around Mayfair for three minutes fucking turn turn Mayfair upside down and shake it and enough change will fall out that you can fund the NHS for a couple millennia. So the money's there and you just campaign I mean get out there do stuff you know go to a marginal nearby and find out where you can help out. It's fun. I think a lot of people are might be afraid to campaign like it won't be fun they just somebody

at question time just use remote control. Turn his microphone off. Cut the lady cut the lady. Oh here's the thing it might be cold on the 12th so when you go to vote and that can affect turnout so you need to stop shaving right now even the women you need to grow out all your body hair need to get one of these and you need to bundle up you need a cuddle partner or more more than one if you're gonna be out there on the 12th huddle together go vote stay warm work out between now and then but don't die it you want to be fat and strong you want to be fat strong and hairy and then to are you are you doing enough in the lead

up to the election is just like how much sweat has come out of your body and helping other people to register to vote in the next few days and and campaigning and just having fun have make it make it make a treat out of it and you'll have fun you'll learn a lot you'll meet people and you can kick the Tories to the motherfucking curb but yeah I mean the money the money's there the money's there it's money's there will there you know or did you do you want the change does that something you want and go ahead and take it demand it I think both in both in this country and in the country that we're from you know people have been

told for too long you can't have anything better don't dream and you know don't hope and that's insane and fuck that and the people who tell you that yeah fuck them yep cosine yes and then I would just like that there's a lot of people that want things to go back to the time before a Boris or a Trump existed and we don't get to go back now we have to make a choice yeah between two sides yeah so don't pick the evil one we were talking backstage like I get it I get people who are like I just want to go back to 2015 you know I want to go back to when bad things only happened to people that aren't me and

now now a bad thing could happen to me but like that we live in a weird blip you know from like 1989 to like 2010 where there was like a little blip where you could have a Bill Clinton or Tony Blair or like a managerial capitalist president or your prime minister who'd be like well just gonna things are gonna get a little bit better every year for you not for them but for you and so yeah and and now that's not happening anymore and it was it was like that for 20 minutes roughly I know I said 20 years really historians are gonna be like it was 20 minutes and now history is happening again and you got

to fight for what you want you gotta fucking take it it's the gilded age again you got to act like it yeah it's the gilded age and we have enemies and they're called fucking rich people let's get them cut to me in Palm Springs with a flamethrower what the fuck this is pretty fun oh Bob it was right January 1st 1680 year of our Lord Jesus Christ Nathaniel St. Andre was born in Switzerland to lowly commoners well well we've got an enemy already not much is known of his

family in early life as a young boy Nathaniel accompanied a wealthy family to London and worked as a messenger and servant okay it's what young boys should be doing yeah yeah almost back there when he was older he supported himself by teaching French German dancing and fencing those go that's always been a good kind of a polymath yeah you can do you can do to him at the same time yeah yeah oh French yeah but his dancing and fencing skills were very poor so it's just you're not a you need a multi hyphenate you want to add it you're buffing up the resume a little bit that's right he was then badly injured by a

pupil during a fencing lesson so he was really really bad at fencing he was like yeah yeah he got like you should teach you should be the teacher how did you do that oh wearing pads that's interesting hey teacher as a whole so he immediately had to go see a surgeon and the surgeon saved him but more importantly Nathaniel was amazed by the surgeon's wealth and status and he decided at that point that he was going to become a surgeon I wonder how hard that was in 1601 16 we're about 17 we're about the around 1700 now okay so yeah not turns out not hard you could kind of just go back there you kind of

just go hey I'm a surgeon now yeah and everyone's like well and also your death rate was probably extremely high to what you're saying you're probably like well yeah I was close I mean I got really close I did do surgery the surgery was performed yeah yeah yeah in retrospect I did his surgery was performed suturing not a good skill for me not where I shine no it's my fencing with the surgery if you oh here's something you guys might not know but here like a doctor like for your knee is doctor whatever but if you go to a surgeon they're so much high above doctor you call them mister is that true it is yeah

surgeons you would call it like mr. Anthony I mean that you couldn't become one but I mean I mean if you could it would be mister it's like a higher honorific I'm not shitting the door yeah I think you still have a shot and I really do yeah you can be mr. Anthony someday oh just like your daddy it's gonna be amazing no I somebody could come up to me in the hospital be like mr. Delaney and no it probably Rob and I'd be like I think you mean mr. Delaney and they'd be like dr. Delaney no the shitty kind just a guy just mr. just shitty mr. Delaney not the good one above doctor but the one below regular mr. so he

apprenticed with a surgeon in London and then establish his own practice in Northumberland Northumberland North or North or bummer Northumberland North umberland yeah you want to crunch it together together well I'm always scared I'm gonna say it wrong so now I slow it down and sounds worse you weren't that off that got it like a sitcomic laugh where's the pause between North and Umberland I really made him hate you I get I get to North and like there's no way they say North differently and then I look at the rest of it like they're gonna say this some weird fucking way Northumberland court he never

actually studied medicine though nor did he receive a medical degree oh man mm-hmm but still now he was a surgeon no yeah you just do it like Rob said right it's still over the year like becoming a wizard where you're just like I'm a wizard yeah yeah 100% you're talking about the cake a wizard society back then probably would have had a harder vetting process I'm sorry Merlin you could be a surgeon but you're just not wizard material you'll never be a mr. Merlin still over the years Nathaniel became more and more popular and soon was popular with the English upper class and became a notable surgeon in London

his rise was very swift okay he is knowing nothing that's right okay he was appointed as a surgeon at the Westminster infirmary and started giving public lectures on surgery and anatomy again with no yes it's impressionistic I like that I like this part this part here but this it's nice what do you know about it I figured out yeah pink the best the best surgeon lectures are the ones where they go this this part's nice yeah he translated Renee Jacques Geron goes a treatise on that's a weird word it must be surgical operations into English and even introduced a new way to prepare anatomical specimens pretty soon

Nathaniel's reputation caught the attention of King George the first wow one of the greats yeah yeah in May of 1723 he was personally selected to be the Royal Household Surgeon and anatomist how is this happening how is he well there were a lot like I was a lot of inbreeding with the Royals but even then like at some point as he performed a surgery yeah yeah he's doing surge he's doing surgery and he's just sort of going like god damn the body is so complicated isn't it that is crazy so much gunk in there it's just back then you just muddle muddle your way through it okay you know okay so his job was not

big what could be more important than this show oh they're leaving already you guys really got you guys really got mad at the people changing seats I'll do it in their language shut the fuck up okay but this job was not based on Nathaniel's medical abilities of course not that's a known factor in this George King George was the first there's a word I don't know Hanoverian King yeah of England and brought many German advisers with him so you know they all they all fucked each other in different countries this is where Dave breaks it down into my term yeah and then they're all kind of

related and then the Austrian King German King and so they rolled over here called German and shit okay thank you sir a little bit of Hungarian yeah okay so he brings German advisers with him because that's what he feels comfortable with Nathaniel became the Royal Court's favorite because most of them didn't bother to learn English hey oh right and he did at least actually speak those languages yeah that's all he had right and Nathaniel was a shameless brown noser he flattered the members of the court with his perfect German three years later in 1726 Nathaniel's career reached its peak when the King consulted with him

about an ailment and Nathaniel successfully cured him we have no idea what the element was part of the record but everyone assumes it was something very minor right have to be did people expect results back then when they went to a doctor god it's like I checked it off I went to the doctor I'm still it's still all brown dying there you really only went to the doctor if you had something really tiny or you're like it's over so yeah might as well just cut this thing that could be popped like your favorite show dr. pimple popper oh my god that was on your TV here the other day and it has the lawn order music it's

really weird I don't know how super weird I tried to want I cuz I was flipping through and I came on I was like I'm gonna try to watch a second that's how we've all handled it try to watch it fucking instantly had to change the channel I mean I won't even tell you what I saw out of respect for your souls it was so fucking disgusting that must be what their ratings are it's just a lot of people have watched it for five seconds I remember I got in trouble because the they comedy central showed a commercial for some of my stand-up too early once so off-com like slapped me on the wrist but yet you can squeeze

fucking gallons of oatmeal out of a man's shoulder and and nobody goes to jail that's how I describe your stand-up to people gallons of oatmeal perfect so King George after that gave Nathaniel a sword as a thanks and the medical world looked upon him with envy and indignation thank you sword that's right who get Ross Perot gave Bernie Sanders a sword is that true he hasn't in his office oh my god yeah back when not when it was George Bush senior versus Bill Clinton yeah this Texan bill oil billionaire named Ross Perot we did an episode on you know more than I do yeah anyway he gave a

sword to Bernie Sanders it was still will occasionally wheeled that sort he was so tiny it must have been like I mean those yeah probably a butter knife that they're like handing to each other when you get the scale right but not only was he a foreigner who was adored by British Royals but he also achieved meteoric success as a surgeon without a single medical credential well done it wasn't necessarily his personality according to the dictionary of national biography he was quote especially disliked for his ignorance foul mouth and lecherousness he's just got the X factor yeah okay Nathaniel was very

dramatic he once claimed that quote he had been decoyed and poisoned by the hired hand of some adversary adversary adverse it's a weird it's not spelled anniversary yeah it should be yeah yeah it should be yeah adversary yeah it should be adversaries so so after drinking a liquor offered him when he visited a patient he was attended to by another doctor who recorded quote Nathaniel passed the night without any sleep and complained of racking pains in his limbs he had in that morning six very sharp stools which sunk his strength and gave him a falling down of the anus

I'm imagining Michael Douglas the film falling down of the anus that's the porn scene that's the porn version and who is saying that about him somebody's clearly doctor a doctor who knows about the body sharp stools anus dropped like a transmission that he counted all six yeah yeah I'd be like a pile of sharp stool no no no let's let's parse it out there's six I'm a doctor half a dozen boy look at these sorry sorry be ready there's more and gave him a falling down of the anus which was so relaxed that a man's fingers might pass into the rectum or straight that they might yeah I mean obviously that guy fingered I mean 100

percent in the terms of bases you know French kisses first case is that like fucking I don't know like flooding the dugout what do you call that one storming the field so Jesus it's almost like you could get two fingers in there if you try yeah speaking yeah holy shit Jim what happened to your anus oh boy don't know I've been shitting swords all morning so that obviously sounds bad but he was never in danger of dying as the doctor noted that quote the symptoms occasioned by the poison were overcome and he may perfectly recover his health so as anus fell back up yeah how did I think you can just suck it in it's not

holiday wait you get a big muscular executioner to suck in put a straw in him there you go give it a take a rip thank you sir Roger but the thing you went you went ahead and ready detailed account of the alleged poisoning and demanded it be read to the royal court read this part about my asshole this is the most important story you'll ever hear go ahead tell them about the sharp poops you get ready for the end but you're not gonna see this coming I sure didn't your highness I your highness I don't ask a lot of you but please I beg you read this it's the greatest asshole story you've ever heard and I

would like to request it to be known as the royal butthole he is also he also quote published lengthy accounts in which he gave an astonishing detail a day by day record of his heroic struggle against death and called attention to how much he was favored by the king and how intimate his relationships were with important members of the court the privy council eventually offered a 200-pound reward for the capture of the poisoner he or she was never found this made a lot of people think the entire episode was fake so Nathaniel could get his name discussed by the public because he wanted to advertise as medical practice

could you not pick a better story to make up rather than like my anus popped out of me tell everyone hear this yeah I'm the guy from this couldn't you be like my eye fell out this is a story about when my eye fell out of my head well it worked Mary denier was born in 1701 to John and Jane denier in Godalming Godalming Godalming sure Godalming Surrey about 40 miles outside of London it was one of the poorest towns in the country Mary led a miserable and punishing existence each morning she had to walk two hours to work in a hop field for over 12 hours this is the story your grandparents tell you every time about

how they grew up already she could not read or write and was quote of healthy strong constitution of a small size and of a very stupid and sullen temper is she single stupid temper yeah okay when she was 17 she married a lowly journeyman clothier clothier whatever he made clothes sure he was a guy who went around from town to town making clothes his name was Joshua Toft he was 18 they had three kids and when Mary was 25 in August of 1726 she got pregnant again now 18th century English law was not kind to pregnant women if you were pregnant and a peasant legally you had to keep working the fields throughout the

entire pregnancy we still have that in America yes that's totally America many complained about pain and health complications early on in the pregnancy sorry Mary and then she had a miscarriage during her first trimester but despite having miscarried local towns people claimed Mary still looked pregnant a month later okay and then three weeks later again out came a few pieces of flesh of which one was quote as big as her arm Mary called it a monster I mean a fleshy arm monster what yeah arm arm size things aren't supposed to come out of you in the first trimester okay I always

say that thank you mr. Delaney yeah certainly with that medical skill okay so she's mm-hmm mm-hmm sure yeah I'd like to know more yeah yeah I think you've peaked interest David quote the symptoms of the pregnancy persisted however in the early part of September whilst working in the hop fields milk flowed profusely from her breasts what I'm not I'm passing on that no I'm not there you will not get a high five on that dude okay so she's giving birth to arms and her nipples are just so far that's the story okay still beats what happened to the surgeon I'd rather that this did not feel like a normal pregnancy

her really what was like I think if they're if you were to flag something as far as being different what would it be let's not be judgmental yeah but okay the delusional she's the arms coming out of let's just say she's had three kids so this one feels a little different sure sure yeah okay because the others were fully formed children and not just arm length flush yeah right on the 27th September she was taken very ill during the night that night Mary called in her neighbor Mary Gill and Gill watched in horror as Mary went into labor and gave birth to what appeared to be several animal parts what did you eat okay okay

so I think medically speaking this is yeah are we now we're sure she's not just doing big solid peas yeah yeah or is a prop comic what kind of animal parts well Gill went to Mary's mother-in-law and Toft who was a midwife oh good and showed her what Mary had given birth to is a midwife get a load of this that's coming out of Mary oh my god it's kind of boys mommy oh boy oh boy that's a lot of teeth coming out of there and immediately sent a sample to John Howard who was a male milk midwife in at Guilford he had 30 years of experience so she's going to the top dog

sure at first John dismissed the idea that Mary had given birth to animal parts sure it's not no an experienced midwife in other words still the next day he arrived to investigate the claim and show John the rest of the pieces quote he diligently searched the whole vagina it took a while he gave it a good yeah I've done I've got a spelunkers hat on all right I'm going back in Mary we'll see what's in there I want to find the whole thing too it's okay I'm a I'm a male midwife don't worry he found nothing it's somewhere just like a goat shitting baby ears on the flip of this then as John was preparing to leave Mary

went into labor again oh no what and she delivered quote three legs of a cat well of course he's making a sitcom face Dave you're reading three legs of a cat of a tabby color and one leg of a rabbit the guts were as a cat's and in them were three pieces of the backbone of an eel okay now this is getting weird is she an ecosystem there I'm telling you right now you know I so my wife's had four kids mm-hmm like this via pregnancy and I know I'm just reminded I remember one time we heard like hey and remember if you go down they told us this in our birth last like hey if you go down on your wife when she's pregnant don't blow

up there or air bubbles could explode and kill her and we're like fuck off I'm blowing air up like no we're like all right well I never do that anyway but we're like also you're insane but we looked it up we looked it up and you really can't do that so don't do that guys but also but also I'm just thinking like so now I'm thinking she's putting stuff up there or somebody is and but I was taught don't even blow up there and here's this lady putting farm stuff in no she might have gotten blown up there someone might have blown up there and this is what happened yeah so I wish I had known this before but that that make

it makes sense now that's what happened to my first six wives now I now I know yeah yeah don't try to inflate them they're not only through the vagina blow in any other hole except the vagina it's for nine months during pregnancy but it's like my thing it's my I know it is I'm not telling you to not blow into women yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah who doesn't want to dizzy Gillespie their wife yeah I'm hoping we get resolution so after all of these animal parts came out uh-huh John decided he would look further into this situation I thought he was exploring the whole vagina put on my waiters he did he explored the vagina

he found nothing and he was gonna leave and then she's like oh here's cats in the rabbit and part of an eel man an eel yeah over the next few days Barry's health deteriorated as she gave birth to more pieces of rabbit what's good Christ John John pickled the animal parts and kept them in a jar well sound sensible yeah sure he's a male midwife of 30 years and he's never been here before this is new yep yeah I mean I certainly think pickling them is not a great idea but maybe who knows because giving birth to animal parts was not normal word spread and on November 4th a member of King George's court Henry

Davenant went to see Mary for himself she was now being called quote the rabbit breeder at least people are empathetic to what was happening that's right after being shown the parts Henry was convinced and went back to London with the news John Howard moved Mary to Guilford where his practice was so he could offer her his services and care mm-hmm Henry Davenant requested any updates regarding Mary's condition from John and John wrote to him often in one letter John said quote sir since I wrote to you I have taken or delivered the poor woman of three more rabbits all three half grown one of them a done rabbit the last the last

leaped 23 hours in the uterus before it died as soon as the 11th rabbit was taken away oh my god 11 as soon as the 11th rabbit as soon as the 11th rabbit was taken away up leaped the 12th rabbit which is now leaping wait which is now what leaping in film is like fuck yeah she is like I mean running running I'm sorry at the end there before that woman fled I probably should have had a trigger warning for anybody's given birth to rabbits or has eaten the rabbit lept is it they're saying her stomach's moving like she's got they're seeing she's got bunny tummy bunny tummy that's right that's the technical term yes up leap

the 12th rabbit which is now leaping if you have any curious person that is pleased to come post may see another leap in her uterus and she'll take it from her if he pleases which will be a great satisfaction to the curious if she has been with child if she had been with child she has but 10 days more to go so I don't do not know how many rabbits may be behind I sir your humble servant John Howard you know what I think I think at night she's going out and fucking the Easter Bunny yeah the public learned of berries rabbits births in London on November 19th 1726 after an article in a miss weekly journal quote

finally covering the hard-hitting stories from Guilford comes a strange but well-attested piece of news that a poor woman a woman who lives in Goldeming well fuck that up Godalming I can't even Godalming okay yeah yeah it doesn't does it really fucking doesn't yeah but I'm gonna hug you later yeah that is that's the best Dave's ever received anyone in the show delivered by mr. John Howard an eminent surgeon and man midwife a creature resembling a rabbit one in each day in all nine they died all in bringing into the world RIP rabbits even the British royal family was intrigued by Mary's story everybody showing up oh

yeah they're kicking out enough this was this was especially true since at the time a quote interest in monstrosities and willingness to pay to see them was common in Europe monstrous or deformed people have been exhibited at a price all over Europe for hundreds of years with poor and wealthy alike equally fascinated so people are into this shit yeah it's interesting that there's a market there yeah King George wanted to be involved in this lady having rabbit story yeah get your name on this one ASAP so he sent Nathaniel St. Andre who was still a surgeon the Royal House were to investigate and by still a surgeon you

mean not at all a surgeon that's right right Nathaniel was joined by Samuel Molyneux press sorry secretary to the Prince of Wales when they arrived John brought Nathaniel and Samuel to Mary's bedside within hours she delivered a rabbit's torso Jesus my god just the torso okay the other parts all right yeah I overreacted yeah that's the one that broke you oh god God to check if the rabbit had ever breathed Nathaniel placed a piece of its lung in water to see if it would float and it did float is but is that that's the thing it is okay because that feels very witch-trially to me later

that day Mary gave birth to another rabbit torso and experienced violent contractions yeah I would imagine she's getting rabbits out of her Nathaniel personally delivered some rabbit skin and a rabbit's head he also quote examined Mary's abdomen closely noting some irregularities at the site of one of her ovaries taking into it was it a rabbit this guy's really good at his job you know there's something wrong with your stomach I'm noticing not sure what it is Nathaniel paste it placed a piece of its already done sorry sorry okay taking into account the pulsating movement in her belly the man of science

presumed that the rabbits were formed in the ovaries and made their way to freedom by jumping down the fallopian tubes of course yeah of course yeah yeah now okay now I'm on board yeah I I agree I think for a minute I was like yeah doesn't know what he's doing that he recognizes that the fallopian tubes are bunny trails that's right we'll now make sense yeah and they're just hippity hoppity down the fallopian tube yeah it's actually fun because it's like you know we're always trying to find the Easter bunnies eggs but now it's payback little bunny hop hop hop yeah yeah now the bunnies finding the eggs yeah an

account was written by s a ceiling man says two hours later quote Mary's pains returned violently and she delivered the lower part of a male rabbit which fitted perfectly the trunk that was delivered earlier I like that it you have to point out it's a male too like that you know it's crazy it was a guy yeah wild John and Nathaniel examined the births together they observed that quote the rectum contained several pellets resembling common rabbits don't this was also present in the guts of other rabbits together with a dirty dirty colored mucus like meconium in the

guts of the first rabbit they found a slender brittle white body resembling small fish bones remember when that guy's anus dropping was insane was the craziest thing I've ever heard sharp poops sharp poops now I'm like give me the sharp poops let's go back to sharp poops Jesus Mary had many more contractions throughout the evening some were quote so violent that four or five people could hardly confine her to a chair get her out of the chair and also she'd be laying down yeah all right quick get her sitting up we're doctors she should be on her head right now let's do this here's

a stool here quick on the stool yeah on your knees on your knees on the stool after each animal part was delivered Nathaniel would examine Mary quote and he found the vagina empty and all the rabbits were examined and kept in separate pots with wine no longer jars okay with wine yeah okay okay okay okay I like that's the thing that threw you off there's a lot of things but I mean I just don't think there's any medical upside to being like put it in the mellow ASAP let's get done let it breathe to you know okay let's do a bunch the one of each the doctors all reported unusual findings yeah no shit the

different body parts appeared to come from both cats and rabbits I think they were fighting that's fucking old McDonald up in there vaginas are mysterious things oh yeah yeah you can't blow in them but there's rabbits I guess I don't know I thought I understood them at this point they should blow into it just their age of gestation range from two to four months some are fetuses and when they put the pieces together it produced a complete rabbit the worst puzzle ever hey kids come in here we got a new puzzle no there's no box there's five pieces go ahead no that one has a penis try the

other bottom half no why would you put a cat on a rabbit torso can I get in a bed now no stay sitting what are you talking about the value took several specimens for himself and eagerly returned to London within days you wrote a complete account of his experience titled a short narrative of an extraordinary delivery of rabbits performed by mr. John Howard searching at Gilbert it's a good book it's very clear you know what you're you know what you're getting yeah no surprises there yeah Nathaniel even performed anatomical demonstrations on the rabbit parts throughout the week in London what I think he's putting them I

think he's bringing people will be like see they go together look at that yeah and this one goes hoppy hoppy hoppy hoppy you know my anus fell out of me once when this news was reported to King George he sent surgeon and skeptic Syriacus awlers that's a fucked up name to Guilford upon arriving Syriacus noted Mary showed no signs of pregnancy and immediately suspected it was a hope great so we finally have a guy who's like something's weird yeah yeah everyone else is like get it in wine feels weird I don't think it's weird we've putting them together and they turn it's a rabbit when they examine in his notes he

wrote that Mary seemed to be pressing her knees and thighs together often as if to pretend prevent something from quote dropping down like a rain is yep yeah try everything Syriacus was also suspicious of John who would not let him deliver any of the animal parts saying he had no knowledge of midwifery sensing there was tension between himself and the believers Syriacus lied and said he quote was fully convinced and satisfied that the flesh came out of the uterus and rejected the possibility it could have been forced or thrust into the uterine cavity okay right he then asked if he could examine Mary he's like

guys I'm on your side here this is clearly rabbits coming out of your lady I don't think that's weird let me look essentially John again rejected his request but offered to let Syriacus stay the night in case Mary went into labor again Syriacus then said he had a sore throat and headache and should go back to London that's something we your scared people are gonna kill you I don't want to I don't want to spend the night I'm coming down with something I've got a thing also that I mean like saying you feel sick in front of someone who's

technically birthing rabbit parts is probably like yeah you think you have it bad yeah he secretly stole some of the specimens so he gets studied them himself when Syriacus completed his examination in London he found evidence of cuts on the flesh caused by man-made instruments okay so a little weird they're chopping them up she probably tried with a full rabbit first couldn't do it and then had to cut it in half and then jam it up there I mean I know that people are laughing but that's actually totally agree 100% agree that she was like no too much like what are we gonna do just do legs yeah I mean I guess

I think that's gonna raise what am I gonna not have animal parts come out of my vagina to be ridiculous no I agree chop it up all right well here let's chop it up get me a stool here let's do five cat legs how's that blow in it I mean I don't know if I he also found that the dung pellets from the rectum of one of the rabbits Mary had given birth to had corn hay and straw inside well okay also one of the things had fucking fish bones earlier right so this proved it couldn't have been couldn't have developed in Mary as a fetus in late November a rabbit totally could and now I've got proof yeah in late November

Syriacus reported his findings to the king and several other elite members of British society when John discovered some samples were missing he wrote an angry letter to Syriacus demanding demanding they'd be safe return very dare you take my wife's vaginal rabbit bits in all my years of midwifing so bring me back my pussy rabbit but that I mean he's keeping major tabs on the rabbit parts too yeah right I warn you again you call yourself a doctor hop lifting fuck you Nathaniel was ordered back to Guilford there John told Nathaniel that two more

rabbits have been delivered during his absence and he suspected there were none left quote as if there can't be as if there was no longer any motion in the uterus while Nathaniel was there he completed Mary complained of abdominal pain on the right side she said it felt like coarse brown paper was being torn inside of her very specific yeah familiar with the sensation and then out came a bag the contraction pain was accompanied by some bloody effusion great you know that is bothering everyone that's normal yeah that happens when a healthy human little person comes out of this that's fine I'm okay with this

yeah that happens that rabbit lungs bothersome quote she was still in much pain with an irregular pulse a white tongue and blood and mucus in the urine alright which is hot yeah I'm like where where how did she not die of sepsis 27 times in the story just put a bunch of trash and dead shit oh my god because he knew a syriacist had stolen samples Nathaniel got affidavits from several witnesses to cast doubt on syriacist's suspicions imagine getting subpoenaed for this boss I can't come in today I've been ordered he was hoping to make syriacist's findings unreliable when Nathaniel returned to London he performed

an anatomical demonstration before the king in support of Mary King George was unsure what to believe so he ordered Nathaniel to bring Mary to London so he she could be observed by a knighted obstetrician I cut the guy's name off Sir Richard something blah blah blah we honor his legacy yes we honor his legacy I'm sure if he's listening he's like that's cool I don't have to be a part of you know yeah if he if he's listening there's a big problem yeah Mary was brought to London the following day when the obstetrician Sir Richard examined Mary he found that the right side of the abdomen was slightly enlarged and soon

after she delivered what he thought was a hog splatter wow I mean they know it sweeps they're like we're going big we're going to the kingdom let's do it cat legs anymore good old instantly recognizable hog splatter doesn't look like a goat splatter he told the others he said he didn't think it it had come from the uterus quote this upset Mary Toft and she began to cry sir Richard asked her why he's gonna call it hog blow sir Richard asked her why she was crying but she did not answer I've been going through a lot what's bothering you Mary where do I begin first of all all my cats seem to

be running away well not running not running falling away the woman present a woman present told them it was because she supposed he thought Mary was a cheat he asked for a hog splatter which they brought him having one in the house which made it very suspicious sure yeah right obviously yeah you've all got those oh yeah that's interesting do you have a hog splatter near the pickles right near the pickles because Mary was now in London the story became a national phenomenon overnight some publications were skeptical others were completely convinced and some like the Norwich Gazette said the affair was quote nothing

more than female gossip you know how ladies are there's like 23 men in the story and it's female gossip yeah either way Mary's story resulted in the sudden disappearance all over London of dishes like rabbits do and jug jugs hair wow no everyone no one yeah they they were no longer on menus everyone's like yeah we're not serving that but Mary became quite the attraction in London writer John Harvey wrote quote every creature in town both men and women have been to see and feel her by the way those are just the two genders that's not every creature right okay weird about also these weird about horses I mean

no you're just like every creature like swamp people are coming to see her mummies I don't know I think I made the shift to monsters in my head at some point I've been to see and feel her the perpetual emotions noises and rumblings in her belly are something prodigious all the eminent physician surgeons and man midwives in London are there day and night to watch her next production production show in the final days of November Mary was moved to a bathhouse in London where she was examined frequently by as many as 10 doctors at time oh boy yeah now she's getting gang examined all of them were men one of

them was the controversial Dr. Mabre Dr. Mabre had written the female physician which proposed that certain women could give birth to a creature he called a pseudokin oh boy a pseudokin yep let's have it was a small mouse like animal that developed in female wombs via maternal impression maternal impression this is a prevalent belief to explain monstrous births swamp people quote the mother's imagination had the power to mark or even shape her fetus Mabre warm pregnant women quote not to please themselves so much in playing with dog squirrels apes etc less play with apes all right honey I'm gonna go play

with the gorilla rubbing mushed up banana anyway less their child resemble resemble its mother's favorite pet what the okay so he believes you can if you think you can manifest your baby into animals so they're trying and that and that you need to put a disclaimer to a pregnant woman to not play with apes so they're there by the way I don't know what your ape playing life is like but that's for nine months off yeah less caffeine no ape fun yeah yeah so I mean it's a way to blame it's a way to blame the woman for birth defects right right but he but he he could have said that he could have said like hey don't picture

your child defected you know instead he's like you'll it'll be a mouse it'll be a mouse baby a prominent midwife text titled impressions of pregnant women on their fetus said when the body was forming the fetus if the woman was surprised or frightened by an unseemly sight this would happen quote the humors and spirits presently retired downwards and as it were abscond themselves in the recesses of the womb yes from who went immediately a strong imagination of the disagreeable thing whether seen or heard seizes her mind and the forming faculty quickly impresses yes and the shape and form of that

thinks seen upon the fetus alright so yeah okay I agree with that yeah it really makes you understand how Nathaniel is able to become a surgeon so easily when it's like if you think that your thoughts will go down from your brain into the recesses of your womb yeah it's you have mind spirits so this pamphlet was incredibly popular many many people believed newly pregnant women had to be stimulated with a beautiful object so they would produce a beautiful child now you you said my dick was beautiful ones right this I mean that's a high stakes gift to that's like get it right that's right

this theory what if you think a monkey's beautiful well I've got bad news for you Jack you're looking at one raise it I wish you hadn't played with that ape I love you too Oliver let's go this theory gained more popularity because of the famous elephant man an Englishman with severe facial and body deformities who is exhibited at freak shows and circuses in his autobiography he claimed quote the deformity which I am now exhibiting was caused by my mother being frightened by an elephant wow my mother was going along the street when a procession of animals was passing by which happens mm-hmm yeah there was a terrible crush

of people to see them and unfortunately she was pushed under the elephants feet which frightened her very much it is scary to have them walk on you that was also at play was when the womb was crushed yeah this occurring during a time of pregnancy was the cause of my deformity so nobody told her don't go play with elephants which is again yeah Mary's case supported this argument Mary said two months before she was working in a field with other women when they saw a rabbit there it is yeah I mean all right whoopsies now that was food so they chased it but did not catch it quote this created in her such a longing to it

that she being with child was taken ill and miscarried and from that time she have not been able to avoid thinking of rabbits right but we are overlooking the five cat legs and eel spine I feel like like they didn't get it like if you were just gonna do all like why the cat legs thank you nature is a mysterious thing it seems it seems evil that night Mary dream she was in a field with two rabbits in her lap and then she woke up sick from that day forward for over three months she had a constant desire to eat rabbits but since she was poor she couldn't afford rabbit well good news Mary you're gonna be the gift that keeps

on giving rabbit wise you're gonna we could run a restaurant out of there we need two more legs hold on how are they liking it they're loving it out there Mary it's going really good they love the way it's marinated it's Dave Mary native so Richard went back to the wide heart in where Mary was now staying and he told colleagues quote the more he thought about it the more convinced he became that the membrane heat removed had never been in the uterus but was a piece of hogs bladder which had been skillfully conveyed into the vagina well there's no other way to get it in there can't be haphazard Richard and

Nathaniel then had a we all know what that medical noise was that's how you know we got it in wait for the sound sir Richard and Nathaniel then had a heated argument Nathaniel said he had personally removed rabbit from her uterus and he was convinced and while it looked like an adult rabbit it had organs that were definitely fetal Nathaniel and the other believers convinced her Richard not to make a public announcement until the quote whole labor was complete or until such a time as he had further evidence that it was fraudulent as a premature announcement would prevent the truth

being discovered so Richard agreed to this just chill for now and say wait until she's through labor yeah which could be years at this point yeah we don't know how long yeah every day she's popping up yeah I want I want to give birth rabbits for as far as decades I know decades decades yeah yeah Richard requested Mary be brought to mr. Lacey bagno in Leester fields for observation I don't know what that is less Lester I think Lester yeah yeah Lester I would just say Lester field I we don't have a monitor up here and I can't hear you terribly well yeah I'm so I'm reading lips yep I said it right then okay good

Nobleman asked for seats to watch they were very excited the least excited man in London were the warreners and the polterers whose business had plummeted sent them since the news went wide what are they so warreners are people who raise rabbits okay and polters are people who raise chickens and no one is buying rabbits or chickens to eat the chick why are chickens twice the chicken economy everything's taken a hit once rabbits start coming out of a giant as people are coming from right yeah yeah I mean a rat to rabbits the chicken or the rabbit of the sky right that's why and you've always said that yeah are you

talking sky rabbits we don't serve those anymore Richard sought the advice of one of the country's most respected surgeons and a well-known man midwife who specialized in female pelvic organs yeah it's not a male midwives being consulted yeah he had assumed their mid husbands really I'll leave it bros later all right thanks everybody appreciate it yes I'm an expert on female pelvic organs uh-huh and why well I like to fuck this man's a doctor he had assumed it was a hoax since the beginning since he'd heard about it and he kept his distance but Richard brought some of the hog and

hoped James would back him up I know what I'll tell him I mean it's a weird thing to say but yeah he brought some of the hogs sure so now this guy James is involved on December 1st Mary's violent contractions returned uh-oh both Richard and James confirmed it was labor the new surgeon James refused to discuss his findings with Nathaniel despite Nathaniel being annoying and continually asking him James quote thought that a woman giving birth to rabbits was as likely as a rabbit giving birth to a human child so pretty good yeah yeah and then that happened but publicly he also remained neutral sure okay on December

4th for doctors which is tough to do it really is on December 4th for doctors including Richard and James performed a thorough examination of Mary's uterus Jesus she must be having a good she's like and again I mean I know she's lying but still all of London at this point has been looking around in her vagina yeah at some point another surgeon's gonna come out and be like sorry I think I found something oh were you guys looking yeah go ahead I've just been in there for a week I'm out of sandwiches flum out I can't believe you guys had come looking for me when I didn't come

out they open a KFC in there yeah there was new swelling which means something new might be coming oh dear but then suddenly the pain vanished but the doctors said they weren't going to leave until this was resolved so it's a standoff wow this is a classic vaginal standoff yeah well we're not leaving until something comes out of you Mary we're your friends we're your allies in this I got all the time in the world it better be good too because we're not overwhelmed with the rabbit stuff anymore we're looking for something like a Puma or something we need

oh there we go were you playing with monkeys while pregnant tension built Nathaniel said he was quote bullied and insulted by the dissenting medical men now while all this is going on there was a man named Baron Thomas Onslow who was investigating the case sure asking questions okay he learned that for the past month Mary's husband had been buying young rabbits oh shit done done and then the mr. Lacey Bagno's porter confessed he had been bribed by Mary's sister-in-law to sneak a rabbit into Mary's chamber when you say chamber I meant the bedroom I'll do the rest oh okay I was kind of excited okay either way this

statement was made then made under oath before a justice of the peace and Mary was arrested and questioned but she denied it well because that's a tough thing to admit you've been doing yeah you should be able to like plead the fifth yeah you can't incriminate your brother when it comes you should just not have to plus what is the crime like wasting fucking idiots time really yeah yeah it's the most fun they've ever had honestly they like powered the economy what are you in for so then her sister-in-law was questioned and she admitting getting the rabbit but

said it was just for eating and then Mary Toff said that's right it was for eating yes eating the rabbits and because members she craved rabbits and she was still pregnant with rabbits right two days later Mary was interrogated by Sir Richard who quote threatened her with a horrible operation to explore her pelvic organs if she did not confess that's torture oh yeah witnesses said that Richard quote had promised to send a chimmy sweet boy I'm sorry no Dave Dave Dave Dave that's it that's tough well we had a good run so where's the chimney it's there well that's not a chimney you're gonna need to get up there get in there get your

brushes my brushes are filthy get in her boy look you're preparing you get in there he's in he's in I heard it I heard the click well it's a version of a click Richard quote had promised to send a chimmy sweet boy up her fallopian tubes to explore them and was she like I call your bluff we're gonna shrink him down with a laser we found the world's tiniest chimney sweep four centimeters and he's willing to take the job I'm a little chimney sweep climb into a vagina James questioned Mary on three to four occasions for several hours finally three days later Mary confessed well Mary's testimony stated that after she

miscarried she was told by a female friend to pretend that she was giving birth to rabbits and that's a good pal that's the kind of friend someone you can lean on I know you're down yeah you know when I went Ted and I had our miscarriage it was tough I always wished I had put rabbit parts up my vagina yeah you're home free what I didn't do I regret it every day of my life just so easy to do too which is what I think quote which she told her what occasion her no longer to work for her living and would undertake to furnish her with rabbits to carry on the deception on payment of part of the gain which she

expected to receive from her service so her friends like you put rabbits up your vagina mm-hmm we're gonna make fucking money you split it with me I'll keep the rabbits coming how did you say no to that was Mary like what's step 2 I mean that's not worse than like Silicon Valley guys who come up with shitty apps no to get rich no it's not I don't I don't I don't not mad at her now you don't hate the player you hate the game yeah she's not hurting anyone else well rabbit wise maybe feels like a couple cats rabbit's dying incredible pain and then are degraded beyond any possible imagination but but other than that you know that it's the

story of a hero a trailblazer a dreamer yeah Mary's midwife mother-in-law and Toft had cut up a dead cat took out its guts and liver and inserted the backbone of an eel into the cat intestines and pushed it into Mary we call this a reverse it's a reverse baby yeah I I did something similar in college when I couldn't get hard because I was too drunk anyway but okay wait so her friend is like put rabbits in you and this lady is just like well they were out of rabbit but plan B what do we say to an eel spine in a bunch of cat legs that gonna I think just to start listening let's see what

it takes let's see what it could take I mean she she took a cat she took out all the guts put a backbone of an eel an eel backbone into the cat intestines what a backbone of an eels got to be crazy and then you and then push it into her vagina you're kicked it up or whatever yeah that's probably the breathing technique you were just speaking of I mean that's just the thing the thing I'm taking away from this is that she had a really good relationship with her mother-in-law like she trusted her yeah I mean cuz how many women here Dave I don't know if you need to ask it I don't know if you need to ask it I don't

even know if you need to ask it I don't think it needs to be asked the hope was the hope was the hope was the hope was this quote miraculous conception would bring wealth to the poor peasant family right because monstrosities are a thing sure right and classism too yeah Mary called in her unknowing neighbor Mary Gill to witness the birth and substantiated and obviously from there it took off mm-hmm well the fun took off but yes as the story caught on Mary quote put quartered rabbit bodies into a special hair pocket inside her skirt and manly introduced them into herself whenever she was not closely being

watched okay well that's I mean look you knew that what's coming yeah I mean it were horrified but surprised I don't think is right yeah yeah and by the way I think she could be called the hair pocket at this point wow it's just I'm gonna say I'm gonna just say put this out there sure any young ladies you're listening this is very unsanitary yeah I don't do this oh yeah I know I mean like and they took it far like she succeeded she met the king many times she's she was in the kingdom a while yeah yeah still though don't do this yeah I think I didn't know we'd have to do the disclaimer but this

podcast does not we do not absolutely do not thank you at all don't mind give it a whirl try that I think that because they're small they're small they're small eels are tiny they're like you know the jelly the eel place near where I live that had been open for like a hundred and ten years just closed and I wouldn't eat there ever yeah I can't fucking eat an eel not there's anything wrong with eating eels but we don't eat them in America so if you move here at 40 you just can't eat one and but I was sad you know anyway and you can edit yeah you can edit this out when you put it on the no it's very equal to the story

we're hearing yeah no anyway I just want my offering context eels are still still a big part of the British economy anyway also Rob doesn't want to eat eels so she had the hair pocket and tighter skirt she's putting the rabbits in there Mary would then theatrically go into labor and push out the package quote Mary was agreeably surprised that it took so little skill to fool such men as Howard and if any idiot can jam a bunch of rubbish up there for China yeah but this is the guy this is the fencing teacher who had to quit fencing because a student almost killed him yeah yeah the fraud became hard when she went to

London because she had to get rabbit parts still and her friend wasn't there so the group of doctors became impatient and then she bribed the porter and that was the end of her con at that point she had given birth to a total of 17 rabbits and that does not include other random animal parts like cats legs and hogs bladder Mary was charged as a quote notorious and vile cheat and imposter and what about the doctors and the surgeons what were they charged with nothing nothing continued to practice just being rad uh-huh right right not wanting to believe yeah they sent her to Taut Hill Fields Bridewell prison in

jail she was put on exhibit to large curious crowds by the jailers quote like a animal in a cage Mary placed the blame on a few people her mother-in-law John Howard the wife of an organ grinder yeah there's no explanation a mysterious traveling stranger who quote told Mary how to insert the rabbit parts into her body and how such a scheme would ensure that she would never want as long as she lived so she was talking to a random stranger yeah a new guy that she met you like hey how are you good you yes I'm just trying to figure out what it makes you know it's not hard to put rabbit in a vagina oh yeah me not too

difficult at all thank you for confirming what I already thought yep just cut them finally I support her taking everybody down which is guilty of being fucking interesting and fun and giving people giving people the story of a lifetime that centuries later a crowd of seven hundred thousand thank you Rob thrill to hear fuck them yeah I agree so on January 7th 1727 Mary appeal appeared before the courts of quarter sessions at Westminster and was officially charged quote for being an abominable cheat and imposter in pretending to be delivered on several monstrous births she was fined 800 pound

which is about 117 thousand pounds today but she was released three months later because the court wasn't sure what the charge should have been exactly yeah right yes right right fooling everyone in the years after the Duke of Richmond sometimes showed her at dinner parties for curious guests oh that's cool Mary Mary was still however the target of satirists across England they mocked her confession her illiteracy and hinted that she was promiscuous oh they wish they could pull that off I'm firmly in her corner yeah oh no I'm totally in her corner she took risks boy did she but the doctors involved with the ones who

became the real target of public mockery good yes fuck doctors yeah yeah fuck them yeah yeah they were dry drawings entire newspapers plays poems and even songs written that's great it's an entertainment generator man the doctors began turning on each other Syriacus published some quotes some observations concerning the woman of godly men in Surrey tending to prove her extraordinary deliveries to be a cheat and imposter which detailed his suspicions of both Nathaniel and John Howard Sir Richard published an exact diary of what was observed during a close attendance upon Mary Toft that pretended rabbit breeder

in Surrey from Monday November 28th through Wednesday we don't get the dates in your title buddy he went after his friend and colleague James Douglas who he had brought in right who had been a vocal skeptic from the beginning and wanted to stay out of it and then Sir Richard said James have been fooled by Mary so James Sir James then published under the pseudonym a lover of truth and learning a that's a pseudonym yeah is that how pseudonyms work I don't feel okay a book called the pseudokin dissected and he attacked dr. mobri and the pseudokin theory but the damage was done to the medical profession doctors not even

connected to the Toft hoax printed statement saying they'd never met or believed Mary's story the most famous satyrst of all William Hogworth created a sketch showing physicians crowding around Mary Mary's bedside in confusion some publications became collector's items and were bound in rabbit scan and sold for ultimate indignity how great would it be to get a copy of that sketch sketch comedy in the 1700s Nathaniel St. Andre took the biggest hit though Mary's confession came three days after he published his 40 day a 40 page pamphlet in which he staked his reputation and inserted that

his account of the case was the most valid that timing is not great it's bad timing how's the pamphlet doing did you hear no he then desperately published the book quote and or sorry quote an advertisement stating that he was now thoroughly convinced that it was the most abominable fraud and asking that his mistakes be excused and then he might be regarded as an innocent party to the guilty actors I was just a guy I came and then rabbits were coming out yeah I'm not the bad guy read my book I'm not stupid anymore a few days later Nathaniel went to perform his duties at the royal court but everyone there

snubbed and insulted him he then requested an audience he then requested an audience with the king and quote he received such an affront from the furious monarch that he never again dared set foot within the royal palace finally his patience all left him and he became the laughing stock of London yes they should have no patience yeah because he lived an expensive lifestyle he quickly found himself living in poverty how long until he's putting rabbit parts in his butt a miracle can you believe it but Nathaniel somehow kept his career he some and then he somehow married the daughter of the Earl of Essex the heiress to a

large fortune in 1728 he treated Samuel Molyneux a member of parliament Samuel had a quote fit Nathaniel tried to save him but Samuel died from what Nathaniel called Nathaniel that same night Nathaniel elope was Samuel's wife lady Elizabeth oh my god what that's wow the circumstances of Samuel's death were quote highly mysterious weird pointy stools pointy stools yeah so he killed him through surgery to go elope what it seems like a relative of Samuel claimed Nathaniel had poisoned him the rumor spread Nathaniel filed a defamation suit and won but he was still publicly humiliated in court and after the trial Nathaniel could not get any work lady

Elizabeth was dismissed from her attendance to Queen Caroline and the couple moved to the countryside and lived off his wife's money then when Elizabeth died she willed her money to relatives and left Nathaniel nothing yes she should have just left him a rabbit a few years later he lost all of his investment money and possessions in a fire he spent his last years in a poor house in Southampton he died at the age of 96 and 1776 it's pretty old for back then yeah quote during the last 50 years of his life he did not once eat rabbit and his remaining friends were

considered enough never to serve it whenever he was present Mary Toft gave birth to a daughter Elizabeth in February 1728 you know that doctor who was delivering the baby was like let's just keep our fingers crossed I'm trying to think like there's a lot of stuff I could forgive my wife for Dave but if she but if she was put in rabbit parts up her vagina for like six months that's a tough one I mean I love her but what's the line sounds like you don't well I feel like she might have some mental problems well oh I mean mental problems yes but I was gonna say the vagina famously cleans itself quite

well so I think sure no what I mean you know so a few days afterwards I'd be fine yeah he's a male he's a and the reason we have him on this episode it because Rob's a male midwife worst case you send a chimney sweep up there do the job there's that winning sound effect again so she gave birth to a daughter Elizabeth in February 1728 the parish register stated it was quote the first child after her pretend rabbit breeding not much else is known of her later life she was briefly imprisoned in 1740 for receiving stolen goods how I'll hide them Mary this is a piano come on we want to launder the money listen she died in

1763 her obituary was listed in all the London newspapers she's famous yeah amazing yeah that is fucking crazy crazy awesome you know this is the story of a hero it is but also that to me that is I mean she was poor and desperate that yeah yes there is forced to the cornered she had no choice yeah I mean you're making women who are pregnant and having a complication go out in a field and fucking work yeah I mean there is a desperation when you don't have any fucking safety net yeah no I mean that is it is still yeah I would I would have been putting stuff up my ass way before she was she was tough well you were

doing that early in your career though that's true yeah I want to thank Sharon Sajapur for doing the research she did an awesome job and then I'll say and then a couple of books are main sources Jan Bondeson wrote a cabinet of medical curiosities a compendium of the odd bizarre and unexpected and then this is the long one so I'm gonna say the start but SA Seligman the rabbit breeder but most of most of the sources you can go look at but they're all from at the time like this 17 hundreds and then Dennis Todd imagining monsters miscreations of the self in 18th century England yeah yeah I don't know how much

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