The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 415 - Voyage of the HMS Beagle - Live

Episode Date: February 4, 2020

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the voyage of the HMS Beagle. Recorded live in London.SourcesTour DatesRedbubble Merch...

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Starting point is 00:03:03 but I should finish the intro this is a bicycle American history podcast where each week I read a story about a bicycle from history to my friend Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about July 5th 1805 year of our Lord Jesus Christ Robert Fitzroy was born at his family's manor in Suffolk Ampton Hall I fucked that up I don't give a shit to parents general Lord Charles Fitzroy and Lady Francis Stewart pricks there's some fucking hot shit young Robert was one of the aristocracy and the fourth great grandson of Charles the second okay so he's bringing it right yeah you know his father and older
Starting point is 00:04:16 half-brother we're both British Army officers and in 1818 at the age of 12 Robert entered the Royal Naval College at Portsmouth nice that's how you fucking do it when you're 12 yeah that's the right age yeah it's time to fucking sit around all your life yeah no it's time for you to draw battle plans this makes sense you're 12 yeah next year at 13 he joined the Royal Navy I mean that is can you imagine it like seeing a naval out like a 13-year-old naval officer just be like get the fuck out of here anyway what are we talking about are we playing hide-and-seek what is our Navy doing that's an order mister he was the first
Starting point is 00:04:59 student in the history to pass his final exam with full marks he graduated as lieutenant in 1824 at the age of 19 I thought he was gonna be a 13-year-old lieutenant and Dave what it was doing to my insides was joy sorry it's okay I'm just gonna picture that if that's okay with everybody that's fine Robert then sailed to South America where the commander-in-chief of the South American Station appointed him as his flag lieutenant aboard the HMS Ganges nice yeah it's a hell of a ship yeah under the command of captain Pringle Stokes whoa the name Pringle had to come from somewhere yeah yeah bet you can't eat just one once
Starting point is 00:05:48 you pop on the HMS Beagle your way too far back to yell actually first part second part don't yell yeah we've learned something really special on this tour which is that when you yell nobody can hear you and it's like your own little intermission that you're taking for the show the Scottish guy last night was like there's a point while you're there if you did it like that you did good voice we were like what just happened yeah stop stop yelling and when Scottish people try to slow it down it's just like don't understand it's lower no and then if also if you're drunk as some of you will be tonight don't
Starting point is 00:06:46 don't don't just don't just sit there babbling along people around you don't don't like that anyway so many lessons we've learned so many lessons so he's on the Beagle they're carrying out surveys of Patagonia and Tyra Del Fuego with another ship the HMS Adventure well these names are really that's a better name yeah better than the Beagle yeah we're on the dog ship someone really like their dog yeah yeah captain Stokes suffered from manic depression cool and who is he captain Pringle Stokes okay so it's Pringle I'm sorry that man to me is Pringle if we can he's and I picture him like the Pringle man that's it you know
Starting point is 00:07:29 well that's really mustache that's his photo oh my god Dave we're back so he's he's in charge of the Beagle okay HMS Beagle so he suffers from manic depression and in July 1828 he received word that he and his ship were to stay in the area for a full five years survey so when one is depressed and you're told don't leave your zone of depression for five years yeah that's gutting well he suffered a mental breakdown oh who could have seen this coming and locked himself inside his cabin for several weeks well that's I mean that's tough if you're the captain yeah well that's the guy in charge yeah would you give us
Starting point is 00:08:13 some orders please no leave me be I want everyone on deck to feel bad we do sir we'd love to talk to you very dark in here I'd like the door we'd love to have a chat people talk to me maybe we could make a day of it huh so his assistant servier took command of the ship and waited for his captain to come around which didn't happen okay oh and then on this what does that mean he just never came out well in the second of August Pringle Stoke shot himself in the head Jesus Christ I'm glad we mocked that man for a little while feels good yeah he really handled mental illness well well how about this
Starting point is 00:09:14 how about say to me any one of those no no no it's not gonna age well in 30 seconds now despite the bullet being lodged in his skull Stokes remain conscious and was able to hold a conversation over the next four days uh-huh we're fucking back baby oh wait four days yeah we're out again we're out sorry pull the plug until gang green set in and oh my god like the goodness is you survived the shooting the bad news is your half of your face is black and and pussy he died on the 12th of August from what his body the guy you made fun of who was sad oh his body was buried near Port Famine Port Famine I
Starting point is 00:10:25 don't think they buried that body who's falling off the bone taste like sour cream and onion it should never taste like that Pringle did so they sailed the bagel to Montevideo and the captain the commander-in-chief sorry then placed flag lieutenant 23 year old Robert Fitzroy in command of the ship wow okay so Robert was a natural leader and an excellent sailor he continued the survey of Tierra del Fuego at the southernmost tip of the continent very few people okay mostly just nomadic tribes of people called the fuijians okay now fuijians is actually an English made-up name that was applied to different
Starting point is 00:11:35 tribes the proper name for the people Robert came across is the Jägens so they just they just call them so had some river ish because they were like we don't want to go talk to them they're the Fujiwes the flag on markers should we ask them what they're called no no no we've already named them they're the flascent stompers they were traditionally nomads and hunter gatherers they traveled by canoe between islands to collect food the men hunted sea lions while the women dove to get shellfish okay this was a true clash of civilizations okay Robert was from the upper class of the wealthiest
Starting point is 00:12:18 in England and most industrial country of the time and the Jägen were some of the poorest and least advanced people in the world is this like a love story where they're gonna end up together this is the meat cute it is the meat cute I feel like this is where it ends the Jägens started to steal everything they could from the crew smart yeah they're like what the fuck this is just awesome shit these guys have yeah they would often shoot stones using slings okay the sailors would try to bribe them with gifts interesting but when they're robbing you what if we gave you something but they would give them
Starting point is 00:12:59 something and then the Jägens didn't understand it was a bribe and would just be like I want more stuff sure right if they thought some Jägens were too threatening the crew would fire shots to scare them away so relations between the Jägens and the crew the Beagle were pretty much completely confusing sure tense to yeah on the 5th of February 1830 a small party was serving at Cape Desolation well who's naming these horrible thoughts it might have been Pringle oh Pringle well that yes yes that makes sense let's go to Fort Bullshit going down the Cape of what's the fucking point sir we've been thinking
Starting point is 00:13:41 about some of the names me too cheery yeah Cape I'm going to blow my brains out in three weeks that's super specific and then die of gangrene far days later I thought that one was my wife left me you said that two weeks ago Cape when I come tears come out it's a lot of hyphens in these I'm not gonna lie at three in the morning they were sleeping in their tents when members of one of the tribes stole their whale boat and two-thirds of their supplies okay so that's quite a rip yeah yeah so these guys are starving and they have no way to get back to the Beagle so the men created a canoe out of wicker canvas
Starting point is 00:14:30 and clay that's seabound for sure ready to go they say clay up the boat it's better than I if that was me I'd be like well I guess that's it yeah well question yeah yeah good luck with that boys I don't think that's gonna work out so two of them paddled all day and night to the ship to seek help and when Fitzroy saw it he disdainfully called it a basket not very empathetic yeah well we're alive in a basket and I look very fancy do you so Fitzroy is fucking live it he could not believe some local quote savages had the audacity and ability to take his whale boat you don't take a fucking English guy's whale boat
Starting point is 00:15:17 it's a great it's great though I mean he's fucking he's a son of a lord I don't think they don't think you can handle he can handle some some random natives taking his boat apparently not he's not down quote during a very dark night some Fuygens whose vicinity was not at all suspected approached with the dexterious cunning particularly to savages and stole the boat like I like he's like they do not respect us when he's like the flasable they like yeah I mean shit's there to steal yeah you know at this time and we're on the same page when it comes to white people yeah take it take all their stuff yeah so he set out to
Starting point is 00:16:04 rescue the so there's still stranded men back there only two could take the boat right the wicker the basket back right the basket so he's he wants to go get the stranded men is in his boat back so the missing whale boat became a serious distraction for Fitzroy he hired he tried to hire local Yagans as trackers but they would just steal the sailors belongings I bet that goes over well right what did you get you find it did you find the boat oh god where are your clothes what's happened tell me we're running naked in a local camp he found pieces and gear from the missing boat so he took some
Starting point is 00:16:49 women and children hostage interesting this is now it's what we call an escalation you got to get the boat back alright seems like an overstep one male Yagan was there and Fitzroy thought they were that all the others were out enjoying life on the the whale boat so he is now just like he's in vending scenarios like he's like they're probably celebrating New Year's Eve on the fucking boom that's right imagine them they're probably in my quarters they probably got on my pajamas so of all the hostages all but three little girls escaped he decided to drop two of the girls on an island near a newly named
Starting point is 00:17:34 body body of water whale boat sound you just should not have the ability to name things when you're in an emotional state is what I've learned so far whale sound whale boat sound whale boat sound it's all I can think of right now wait it's not even like whale boat or it's like a weird like whale boat sound the sound the whale boat makes so he kept the third girl a nine-year-old who he named Fueja basket so it's literally he just takes the last two things he thought of that's right and that's the name that's it yep this is what out of total the paper I've had some rum so he my neck hurts I don't sleep well is over
Starting point is 00:18:41 there so he keeps searching for his boat sure he reached Christmas sound where he was greeted by yiggums in canoes and he decided to kidnap one and force him to be his guide and interpreter well I don't know if you can force someone to be your inter like if you have no context of the language that's right you can't force someone to do like they'll just be like sure yeah no he said he's really happy we'll kill him later exactly yeah it's going good it's not a great plan right okay the guy but the guy didn't seem to care and just came along so is this hostage here is this like he's like yeah it'll be fun but your mind
Starting point is 00:19:23 nah it'll be fun he was 26 and Fitzroy then renamed him York Minster it I guarantee this is happening because they they can't pronounce their name yeah but it's also like you don't you just I love we just met your name will be boat man you don't get to do your name you didn't have a name till we met I have a name nope yeah yeah boat man no not until until we met I know you're 26 but you're wandering around no no one knew what to call you no everyone did and then the white man came I promise you one thing this does not age well you'll get yours whitey someday you have to I don't know what you're saying I'll eat
Starting point is 00:20:26 your brain a few days later the crew found traces of the whale boat near some wigwams traces of the whale boat yeah how do you what you know it's probably parts of it or maybe maybe they can tell like it's been slid off the end of the banks of the river something like that right okay yeah I mean it's not like tracking a deer like maybe I don't know if this needs to be the part of the story you question okay alright just like this other stuff you'll get held up on I look forward to it friend this time Fitzroy decided to take a 20 year old man to try to get information this guy he named boat memory this is like a racist
Starting point is 00:21:15 dances with wolves boat memory yeah I'll be sorry how about no more boat to throw whale around a little bit on its own instead of everyone has like a boat association you're the SS man understand so neither boat nor York were much help be clear not their names they kept tracking to Nassau Bay there the captives said the locals here spoke a different language and were their enemies so Robert decided to kidnap one what move is that what why he's just not a hot streak well he doesn't have his boat meet boat meet York he doesn't have his boat so he's
Starting point is 00:22:09 just right yeah okay he grabbed a 14 year old boy who was passing on a canoe out of the canoe yeah yeah they literally yeah you're mine yeah yeah you go on yeah the boy was renamed I can take all this jemmy button oh my god this is messed up so it's right now took the boy I believe he gave some stuff to the tribe but they didn't understand that it was a trade right and Fitzroy didn't really care so but at this point Fitzroy finally gave up the search for his salt stolen whale boat okay finally he decided to take his captured yiggins back to England where they were where they would be educated
Starting point is 00:23:12 and civilized so this is taking a crazy turn so because he's lost this boat he's now like your money like like yeah it's like a trade have you never traded a boat for people I haven't to be honest I've never heard of it until now I once traded a jet ski for a woman that's Tampa Bay though bro that is Tampa Bay that's just how Tampa yeah I mean that's just classic Tampa that's a regular bartering system you shouldn't that's how you got here I wouldn't I don't know if I'd yeah yeah I don't know if I'd be excited about that though she likes jet skiing even worse city man so so his I his plan was to educate them civilize them
Starting point is 00:23:58 and then release them back into their native lands what kind of word of Jesus and correct habits of the British dude you cannot then Donnie Brasco religion now you go back there your moles and tell them act normal nobody knows Donnie Brasco it's a great movie well then we're a minute ago he's gonna admit and they're gonna learn the correct habits of the British which I saw some of in Manchester at midnight so I did so it's just gonna be a lot of a lot of natives in high skirts screaming and a guy with a shoe on his head dancing on the street now I'm on board and someone else just standing yelling Jimmy so that's
Starting point is 00:24:53 what they're going to bring yeah they're gonna open a pub called the whale boat made out of the whale boat so spread the correct habits of the British amongst their fellow quote savages who are now scarcely superior to the brute creation he doesn't think much so the four abductees had been vaccinated for smallpox in South America and again upon arriving in England but boat memory still contract it is a shame that we don't know the real we don't I mean we don't know the name so there's nothing other than boat memory boat memory yes like even if you're introducing him in England people like sorry what was that
Starting point is 00:25:41 this is boat memory this is whale boat this is boat man and this is just boaty he's a little wacky he's a nut he's off a little bit I don't know what's up with boaty none of these guys will get smallpox I'm a hundred percent on that so he contracted smallpox he was taken I mean vaccinated twice still not not enough how small are the pot I mean they're small oh okay they're tiny he was taken to the hospital and vaccinated twice more I don't think that you don't know no that's not that's never no no no you don't know he's got the smallpox let's vaccinate him yeah I've got chlamydia
Starting point is 00:26:21 put a condom on now all right somehow this didn't work and he died soon after she said they kept vaccinating him after though to be so fired Fitzroy was very upset quote this poor fellow was a very great favorite with all who knew him as well as myself he had a good disposition very good abilities though born a savage had a pleasing intelligent appearance oh I mean this guy is this one I could look at the other three were then civilized and became celebrities amongst the upper classes and even met King William and Queen Adelaide so the King the King gave a fooija
Starting point is 00:27:13 basket a bonnet I'm sorry I just need a second what out he gave I for one of them again is named fooija basket and he gave him a bonnet her her bonnet that makes a little more sense but it's still horrible gave her a bonnet welcome to our country here's something stupid you're a baby now Fitzroy began to plan and prepare for his second voyage to America okay Charles Robert Darwin was born in Shrewsbury in 1809 his father Robert Darwin was a successful doctor his mother died when he was 8 and he was sent away to a boarding school Robert expected where you learn survival of the fittest for sure by the way that's the
Starting point is 00:28:15 best place to learn it Robert expected his son to be a doctor but at medical school Charles was average okay disinterested and didn't like the site of blood sure I like how that's a flag he this kid hates blood he's real weird he joined the Plinian Natural History Society he debated scientific matters and presented a short paper on oyster larvae by the way you can't write a long one on that because unreadable they're great what oyster larvae yeah mm-hmm no no they are so fun yeah when they get out of the shell forget about it just rascals I'd rather forget about it rascals yeah his father then sent him to Cambridge
Starting point is 00:29:10 hoping to turn him into a member of the Anglican Church but Darwin became distracted when his cousin introduced him to beetle collecting well we've all got that family member it must be amazing when you show someone a beetle collection and they're like whoa this is amazing you're like really I've gone through this a hundred times no one's ever gotten it no dude you should be my thing on oyster larvae I would love to yes yes please yes please now whoa very early in our our stand-up careers I went over to Chris Hardwick's house apartment and he had beetles all over the walls in little boxes I was
Starting point is 00:30:04 gonna say without the boxes that's just a shithole yeah no they were out the boxes that's New York I've had a beetle collection of my apartment before unintentional I wanted it out I've had a mouse collection that's awesome for you so they haven't beetle mania yes Darwin became obsessed with beetles on one occasion Darwin had a rare beetle in each hand when he saw a new beetle species running on the ground okay so wait so so for a man obsessed with beetles this is a predicament but you either got to make a difficult Sophie's choice or grow a third arm yeah this is this is a nightmare oh no instead of
Starting point is 00:30:51 dropping one no he put one in his mouth I knew it and picked up the new species and then what Darwin quote alas it ejected with some intensely acrid fluid which burnt my tongue so that I was forced to spit the beetle out which was lost as well as the third one so whatever this beetle shot out of itself in his mouth was so bad he had to spit it out and I go like yeah yeah and then the one beetles like well this sucks I just yeah my friends uh Darwin became very close with a botany professor who he accompanied on field trips he was soon obsessed with naturalism and took a course in
Starting point is 00:31:51 geology at Cambridge he also was president of the Glutton Club you want to Glutton Club it was a society whose aim was to try out rare quote birds and beasts which were before unknown to the human palate okay they successfully ate and enjoyed hawk and a bittern and but a stringy barn owl was noted as being indescribable probably not in a good way I'm assuming eating a bar now yes so they're just eating whatever they can catch yeah okay sure Fitzroy decided he wanted a naturalist for the next Beagle voyage the role had previously been filled by this ship surgeon a man named Robert McCormick he had experience
Starting point is 00:32:45 working as a naturalist in the colonies but despite being English-born he was of Irish stock okay so Fitzroy needed better just purely based on the fact that there was there's Irish blood on them why would you want that collecting bugs sure feels like he respects this man so little it's time to call him boat yes so suicide ran in Fitzroy's family and after the captain stokes incident and the harsh environment that had to be surveyed he wanted a man who could hold the kind of intellectual discussion only a member of the upper classes could yeah unless of course this man had seen a third beetle then talking not on the
Starting point is 00:33:37 menu Charles was encouraged to apply for the position by the botany professor after they met Fitzroy was not keen to take Charles had nothing to do with his enthusiasm or ability but Fitzroy believed in oh I should look this up fizzy physio geometry hmm I remember I looked it up and it was a word that no longer is in the dictionary so but basically he thought Darwin's nose portrayed a quote lack of energy and determination well for a second you'd lost me and I was like what is he talking about but then you're obviously yeah no I know that I mean I've yeah nose is a huge feature when judging someone
Starting point is 00:34:22 oh yeah yeah but other naturalists had rejected the job and Fitzroy accepted Darwin for the voyage just one thing can you cut that nose down a little bit Darwin the voyage was slightly delayed due to alterations to the boat but all crew and the Yaggins arrived in Plymouth on November of 1831 okay Charles also met his fellow naturalist competitor McCormick okay Charles was not impressed quote my friend the doctor is an ass but we jog on very amicably it's good to call him your friend that's a nice way to shellack someone right after my friends an idiot and I detest him but we'll figure it out over the weeks they
Starting point is 00:35:06 waited to depart Darwin's over the weeks as they waited to depart Darwin began focusing on three aspects of the voyage the small size of the cabin and the mast in the middle of it and his complete inability to mount his hammock wait I gotta say I did not I mean I know a little bit of Darwin but so far really like the vibe he's got a real you're eating beetles just cuz you love to collect them I mean that's boyhood charm and then one of your gripes is like I can't get in this hammock properly yeah well you shouldn't have a hammock that's what it feels like but man come on let a guy relax all right
Starting point is 00:35:48 I'm gonna hit that hammock Darwin please just I knew the nose was the right thing bastard him in that nose thing in that hammock look at his misleading shnaws he also had an admiration for his quote bow captain so he's into the captain Charles started to think he might not be meant for the sea he was getting frequently seasick just being in dock and and are we close or what we have not left yet Charles what now man I'm gonna yarf again we should get a jukebox dude no I mean maybe a neon sign says Darwin or something cool just spitbomb right hammocks finally working out which I'm a big fan of quote it is
Starting point is 00:36:58 now about one o'clock and I intend sleeping in my hammock I did so last night and experienced a most ludicrous difficulty in getting into it that's that's part of the deal with a hammock he never yeah this is amazing this is never would he's like a frat boy just like that we chillax a little bit my great fault of jockey ship wasn't trying to put my legs in first you are this is the guy I guess hammock is where you come up with evolution though you're like you're just watching shit just like man we're very similar what a lame diary yeah last that was wild tried to get in the hammock feet first no go not
Starting point is 00:38:07 the way the hammock being suspended I thus only succeeded in pushing away without making any progress in inserting my own body it's a long way of saying you can't get into a hammock he cannot get into his hammock no I love the game though finally the Beagle is ready to depart on the 10th of December she set sail from Plymouth headed to to Renif but had what tenoriff everybody said it once it'll help and a riff reef our IFFE is reef yeah well you're fucking stupid whoever David that's literally one of the dumbest spellings if you're gonna call it reef what Dave is trying to say thank you for
Starting point is 00:38:57 the correction he will learn that's a that's a fucking stupid one okay let's usually they're right but in this case this entire country is wrong all right all righty everybody let's just have a little fun tenor reef okay guys you're not helping please don't cheer me when I come down to your level of stupidity wow this is like a low bar this is like Brexit shit all right that's gonna be the intermission that's the intermission it's gonna be fine by the way keep in mind where Dave lives my president's great yeah yeah I'm like your country we've got a good one so our country but as they as they sailed for
Starting point is 00:40:02 the dumb named island bad weather came and the boat returned to Plymouth the next morning Charles was all about it still not figured out the hammock so his concern about Darwin is fairly act like it's just like Darwin it's just like it might be something to the nose day three he's just still looking at the hammock and found it like what am I doing wrong I gotta get in this thing while on harbor he finally took action quote my hammock after endless alterations has been made flat okie-dokie on the morning of the 20th of December conditions were good for sailing the Beagle should have been heading out to sea but Charles said
Starting point is 00:41:04 quote the sailors declare there is somebody on shore keeping a black cat under a tub which it stands to reason must keep us in harbor I would ask what's happening but I don't think you know why this is happening it's a crazy sailor superstition that you can't sail and there's a cat in a tub like you wait the cats underneath the tub under a tub so how are you gonna solve this you take the cat out from under the tub okay simple but for that day you can't sail okay right if you did obviously things would be bad yeah yeah many people died before they figured that out none probably probably none yeah so the next
Starting point is 00:41:49 day there was no cat tub issue cool the Beagle pulled anchor headed out and sailed straight into a rock I'm starting to think that cat was still under that tub Charles quote the vessels stuck fast every maneuver was tried to get her off the one that succeeded best was making every person on board run to different parts of the deck by this means giving the vessel a swinging motion you know too as soon as the ship is going down Charles like help me with a hammock somebody help me get over here we're gonna save the hammock get it get it get it the Beagle is finally freed and sailed back to Plymouth again good
Starting point is 00:42:31 adventure so far so they set out again in the morning Charles woke and was confused quote Stokes and myself looked at a pocket compass which we agreed was bewitched for it for it pointed to northeast instead of to where we were sailing west by south our doubts were cleared up by a Wickman a Wickham putting his head in and telling us we should be in Plymouth sound in the course of an hour the wind had apparently changed overnight in Plymouth they dropped anchor I'll tell you what though the anchor and got tangled in a chain yeah it took eight hours to fix okay so so the Beagle remained in
Starting point is 00:43:23 Plymouth is it time to just nail it to the dock feels like it's a home on the 25th because it was Christmas the officer and Charles went ashore to dine but the crew remained on the Beagle because they weren't allowed to leave Charles on his return to the ship quote the whole of it has been given up to revelry at present there is not a sober man on the ship King is obliged to perform a duty of century the last Sentinel came staggering below declaring he would no longer stand on duty and he is now in irons the following morning conditions were perfect for sailing that's not good but they could
Starting point is 00:44:03 not because so many of the crew were locked in irons or hung over do they leave on the 27th the Beagle headed out and got past the rock well Dave already not good and was finally on its way to Tenerife over don't over the next days men were flogged for their Christmas party and Charles was seasick but the Beagle was finally off on its voyage all right and now we take our 20 minute capitalist break so people can make money and the artists can suffer be right back all right part two now we find out if Darwin got in the hammock could he mount it everyone nice and drunk all right there we go that's why we do it the
Starting point is 00:45:07 ship arrived at wait what's been happening seriously they fight the ship finally left okay remember the midpoint is that the ship left remember it was in Portsmouth yeah I remember it yeah they were in Portsmouth for over a month this so far to me is a story of a hammock I'll be honest they've definitely had bears yes the ship derived at Tenerife on the 6th of January Charles was in awe at the beauty of the coast he was about to study okay they entered the harbor and we're about to drop anchor when they went back to Plymouth they had to they had to when a vessel full of officials approached and told them because there
Starting point is 00:46:01 was a cholera outbreak in England they had 12 days quarantine so Fitzroy sailed off noting it was a quote real calamity for Darwin what does that mean like as Darwin was like so excited to study and what why okay on the 16th of January the Beagle arrived at St. Yago okay unless you guys are gonna call it Jago Charles was not impressed quote I tasted a banana but did not like it Dave is this how he figures out we came from chimps wait I can't believe this is Darwin he's my town is a miserable place consisting of a square and some broad streets if indeed they deserve so respectable a name in the middle of these
Starting point is 00:47:05 roars are lying together goats pigs and black and brown children some of whom boast a shirt all right Charles pump the brakes you were a fan favorite for a minute a little shady but quite as many and not these a latter look less human being than I could have fancied any degradation could have produced go back to the hammock we had a good run it's worth it an English guy would go out somewhere and be an asshole the natives but I felt like we'd found our guy yeah I felt like we had our guy yeah yeah Charles hard hired a guide and explored the island with McCormick there was tension between the two well Darwin
Starting point is 00:47:54 doesn't respect McCormick well McCormick no he's he's gonna go out and do stuff also but Charles is in charge right well of our wrongs and our rights after a failed attempt to shoot a large wild cat was it headed for a tub McCormick went on a rampage probably to prove a point over their brief stay on the island he shot 17 kingfishers 18 sparrows a warbler 11 finches three tropical birds five crows a vulture a pelican five hawks one wild pigeon and chased a monkey over a cliff when Darwin eats crazy shit so Darwin was like got that monkey right that monkey so the monkey rat he's still dead that's a count so they stayed
Starting point is 00:49:08 there for a few weeks that monkey's amazing yeah and then they boarded the beagle and headed for a Brazil they needed food and stopped at St. Paul's Rock and outcrop in the middle of the Atlantic Charles quote we were surrounded on every side by birds so unaccustomed to men that they would not move we knocked them down with stones and my hammer was active can you imagine an era where birds trusted humans we could get that close to just be like I'm gonna hammer this bird's head yep the bird's just looking at you you're my friend friend we're friends this is a weird bird you just hit them and they
Starting point is 00:49:56 split McCormick was made the entire time to stay on the beagle and watch he was made to yeah I guess they Darwin put him on time out well the captain did I think okay yeah as South America because of all the stuff he killed before I don't know what I put him on time out being like you you're a savage what's Charles doing Charles no no no no no they can hammer them it's fun your brains are little I can also kill them with spoons as South America came into sight the crew spotted a marine animal Charles a whale boat so Charles quote Sullivan harpooned a large porpoise the instrument was hurled with such force
Starting point is 00:50:43 that it passed through the entire body all right so it is a porpoise had never been seen well Darwin was certainly never seen one okay they're all very excited to kill it okay for a minute the thrill when they saw the harpoon go right through it yeah a few days later they arrived in Bahia in Brazil Charles was blown away by the beauty of the city but horrified by the large slave population Charles was an abolitionist then Charles and Fitzroy had a conversation about slavery that turned into a furious argument oh boy we know where Fitzroy stands yeah Charles later recalled Fitzroy's defense of
Starting point is 00:51:30 slavery quote he had just visited a great slave owner who had called upon many of his slaves and asked them whether they were happy and whether they wished to be free and they all answered no well Dave I mean that's pretty I mean that's pretty demonstrative like yeah you ask people who have no freedom that's right who are held against their will yeah who you can you know who you've decided to be rude to and hurt and you ask them if they're happy they say yeah that you could take that at face value take that to the bank they're being honest I'm sorry I guess I got stuck in the part where you said that you're rude
Starting point is 00:52:07 to slaves I think by nature you would be rude I didn't know how horrible to get my master is very rude many folks the ownership thing a whipping and well that is what I mean that's what I mean yeah Charles pointed out that they were asked this question in front of their master and then Fitzroy became so angry he almost kicked Charles off the rest of the voyage all righty he later apologized and the two had been bunking together and then they moved back in together because he apologized so they had us with that I have you ever not we're ever in a university
Starting point is 00:53:00 and you had a fight over slavery with your roommate and then it's a real odd couple situation right yeah yeah I believe some men don't have rights I take issue with that we're like this all the time on the 18th of March the Beagle headed for a Rio Charles killed a shark great good stuff happening out there they stopped at the Abroyo's Islands and killed more birds for food quote there were more killed than the boats could hold well why do you that well but once you start it's so hard to stop sure yeah I mean on April 4th the Beagle arrived in Rio where they were received letters for
Starting point is 00:53:52 the very first time Charles learned that a girl he had thought might become his girlfriend had it gotten engaged and now was married do you think that means it's over yeah Charles was very upset so he rented a cottage and spent a bunch of time shooting monkeys I would never tell someone how to grieve it's not even grieving he had a made-up girlfriend in his head he thought she might become his girlfriend it was a made-up girlfriend real to him well he's Beetle guy and she's like yeah okay you're nice and he's like I'm gonna marry her yeah and she's like yeah no I'm gonna fuck the guy over here that knows
Starting point is 00:54:43 how to play football yeah and and Beetle guy I was nice to and he's on a boat somewhere once she finds out about his monkey rampage she's gonna be like that's the one that got away that's a cool guy I want to hitch to that wagon that's true yeah he also shot a lot of tropical birds cut down trees and drank wine to get over his heartbreak so he's just wasted Paul Bunyan he's out on a fucking man-cation just right he's just he's on his own he's a solo survivor episode he's in a mental hammock yes Fitzroy arranged to have Charles first packages of samples sent to Henslow who
Starting point is 00:55:29 was the botany professor okay and that was it for McCormick he then quit the voyage okay when told Charles didn't care quote here's no loss Charles went back and removed nearly every mention of McCormick from his journal what like just because he left the voyage you don't eternal sunshine of the spotless mind him what kind of who revises their diary my bad like all right well we're canceling that character from my life it's like I was gonna get rid of this fiancee that I thought I had that I didn't you know what I don't think this monkey shooting is aging well either I'm gonna really and what if I was nine
Starting point is 00:56:16 feet tall this is actually now getting really good I like where this diary's headed I was great in the hammock now about the packages of samples Charles had been collecting anything that he considered interesting he wait what collecting anything he considered interesting everything yeah but he wasn't taking good notes sure or preserving them correctly well so far those are two big X's unlike McCormick Charles lacked the knowledge of how to protect specimens he would cram them all into a box and ship them off sounds pretty good to me Henslow wrote quote
Starting point is 00:56:59 birds several have no labels tail feathers crumpled by being bent from bad packaging to mice rather moldy for goodness sake what is number 223 I gotta tell you who outside of the racist part doesn't empathize with how over his head he is in this light it's like this is what it would be like if I said samples just be like just tell them whatever bird they want to hear dude I'm sick of this I'm high right now I am not ready to deal with this shit I didn't know it was alive I'm sorry man I'm not good for goodness sake what is number 223 it looks like the remains of an electric explosion yeah it is man that's what it
Starting point is 00:57:51 is it's an electric explosion bird look I understand that I'm not good at this but I'm all you gots you got to relax a little bit all right maybe lay down maybe it's something that's suspended all right just chill McCormick samples are fabulous here we go yeah he also killed a monkey by chasing it dude so that monkey jumped into a jar shit I knew he was doing it for a reason he was so good at this I mean he's like Tommy boy after three months in Rio the Beagle headed down the coast of Brazil the Beagle arrived at a Montevideo where there was a riot happening between some
Starting point is 00:58:40 Gaucho Calvary and rebellious Negro infantry happening okay so they left good smart and they went to Buenos Aires but they were shot at because of the cholera quarantine issue from before okay sure and they left okay after a few months going back and forth between Rio and Buenos Aires it was time to take the three civilized Yaggins home yep they're on the boat well that's a plot twist on the boat the whole time just watching this like this is insane look at how he's packaging that let me just chase the monkey who's in charge so did they got over this porpoise these guys are so drunk hey
Starting point is 00:59:38 house raincoat come here look at all those guys shooting birds just watching them with a hitch Darwin with a hammer like get your hammer it's awesome you can just toss them the Beagle arrived at Tierra del Fuego on December 1832 Charles on the Yaggins quote I would not have believed how entire the difference between savage and civilized man is when he met an old man quote he gave me three hard slaps on the breast and back at the same time and making most curious noises he then buried his bosom for me I mean you know what to do it's not crazy slap that bosom make a noise hit that hit hit that
Starting point is 01:00:26 titty hit that titty yeah hit the titty old man titty I mean honestly that would be an honor so I came over just hit slapped you a bunch of them was like now you me I'd be like yeah fun I like these guys I got a good vibe the ship arrived at the lands of Jimmy Buttons old tribe that guy whatever I mean I don't know how long they've been gone but I assume it's a long time it has to be they're just running suicides between Buenos Aires so it's like it's like give me a second like 1933 so they've been gone for maybe stew stew stew is that a time stew what hasn't been that long it's been maybe three years a long time to
Starting point is 01:01:19 be called jammy button means like at the point where you're like I guess I am jammy button I don't know what's up everyone's calling me it stuck trust me you can only push back on a nickname for so long before you give in this place is so big it's around this is exactly what it sounds like when they have a service here on Sundays by the way we're all meeting back up here Sunday for service so yeah thank you so all the Yaggins began to come out to see their missing tribe member but Yemi was now forgotten sorry but Yemi had now forgotten how to speak his local language fully oh boy so they brought the Reverend Matthews who
Starting point is 01:02:17 I assume was the ship Reverend ashore and they erected a mission and they what they built a they built a but the mission they built a little church house to solve what what are they feeling these people don't have Jesus what do you mean what problem like so okay so somebody loses their identity and you're like we'll build a church no I mean he was he was coming ashore to help out but also they're gonna set up shop that's not helping out well they built three houses as well as the mission and two vegetable gardens for the civilized gents the new civilized Yaggins to spread the word of God to their people so you get
Starting point is 01:03:01 fresh vegetables if you believe in God that's right okay sure so they left they left Reverend Matthews and the Yaggins to civilize and they sailed off right so then so they're just kind of checking out the local area surveying do what they do at nine days later they came back to see how the mission was going mm-hmm Charles nine days Charles quote from the moment of our leaving a regular system of plunder commenced that is awesome right if you're them you're like all right yeah we love the church yeah all right they're gone let's eat him let's eat him let's kill everything let's stab him throw him in the water in which not
Starting point is 01:03:44 only Matthews but York and Jimmy suffered Matthews had nearly lost all of his things night and day large parties of natives surrounded his house one day having requested an old man to leave he returned with a large stone in his hand another day a whole party advanced with stones and stones and stakes so they're scaring the shit out of the Reverend right okay Reverend Matthews was Reverend Matthews essentially just by himself he's an English guy no he's with the other he's with yummy and right but I mean right yes yeah right Jimmy sorry get his name right that's wrong apologize yeah don't mess with me yummy and wager
Starting point is 01:04:27 sure great all nonsense in jibberish or miss basket uh-huh Reverend Matthews was that brought up back aboard the Beagle for his own safety and it was decided that after three years of education Jimmy York and Foyja should be okay to carry on the mission without it but there is some I mean obviously there's tension between them I think that yeah who knows like truly like how much they were like I recognize you from them but they roll in they don't really remember their language that well they're probably dressed in western clothes yeah they well of course it looks like freaks yeah you've been fully immersed in that
Starting point is 01:05:09 so you yeah you have no option when your cousin comes back from a cult mm-hmm that's very specific and and he's like well now we worship the penis and you're and you're like what do you want to talk about this after the show maybe is that better for you because I think now's a bad time you're like Uncle Marty what happened wait your cousin's your uncle Martin and and what happened Vietnam it went weird and so and so now your cousin into an now he's in Kentucky in a penis cult wait your cousin uncle is in a penis cult in Kentucky I might do a doll up about that I believe you just did he ended up working at home depot so it
Starting point is 01:05:51 ended up fine so he did sir what did he he wants us to towel him he said towel us he said so we'll do them after the show yeah see how good it goes it goes really well doesn't it so so the big ol leaves the the yaggin guys they sail off Charles quote it was quite melancholy leaving our Fuegans amongst their barbarous countrymen York the I mean who was a full grown man with a strong violent mind where did that come from I don't know but that's the I think that's the 14-year-old right well I am certain in every respect live as far as his means go like an Englishman poor Jimmy looked
Starting point is 01:06:43 rather discolored disconsolate and certainly would have liked to have returned with us so he is like really he's like Jimmy wants to return York but it's a fucking badass now like he went through MMA training and the idea that you're like oh well we've turned York English so he'll be fine like that is so counterintuitive when is it English as well as you have completely removed people human beings identities and Jen just left them being like I think we did a pretty good job over there to a job well done well when they introduced you back into the Borghive so a year and a half later into the two-year voyage they
Starting point is 01:07:28 had not even come close to completing the planned surveys and at the Falklands that's an island that you guys keep and if if other people try to take back their native lands you send warships so I would maybe hold off on the woos for a little bit so maybe think about what was said so at the Falklands in March of 1833 Fitzroy without seeking the permission of the Admiralty brought bought an American schooner called the unicorn which he renamed the adventure the Avenger adventure the adventure okay I mean better name so he wants two boats to speed up the process of surveying right but keep in mind Darwin
Starting point is 01:08:18 is I mean Darwin is in charge of the collection so he's just like putting plants in his pockets just being like I don't know man I got I think that's a fern I'm so sorry I got so high this morning it's just I received a duffel bag full of weed yeah dude I've been smoking the plants I messed it up dude I've been hitting oh man this is quite a switcheroo so lol the Beagle and the adventure over the next few months surveyed the coast of Patagonia Charles studied the wilderness on shore they were like oh douchebag coats I mean one of the only only decent environmental clothing companies in
Starting point is 01:09:08 the world yeah shit on that one no I was talking about the other Patagonia dog fucking guy thinks there's one Patagonia I know the good one you heard about the other one yeah well they kill birds with hammers 100% I got the evidence in my file cabinet yeah yeah with a bunch of yeah monkey hands bird wings and plug in plant shit yeah yeah you want me to read for a while you good yeah cool the Beagle and the adventure over the next few months surveyed the coast of Patagonia Charles studied the wilderness on shore he shot a llama he must have been over the moon he's still grieving about the relationship that was
Starting point is 01:09:59 in his head but he got the wrong he shot a llama like animal and learned is like it was like a llama and learned that quote a naked man on a naked horse is a very fine spectacle is he going through a midlife crisis I had no idea the two animals suited each other Charles also learned that Puma tasted quote remarkably like veal it's really treating earth like a buffet yes yes yes Puma in March of 1834 the Beagle returned to the land of a gemmy buttons tribe I don't know if anyway after a few days of searching they found him on a canoe and
Starting point is 01:10:57 remember this was the guy he was like he wants to stay with us he's right yeah Charles quote we could not recognize poor gemmy it was quite painful to behold him thin pale and without a remnant of clothes he sounds English on the first to when he left us he was very fat and so particular about his clothes I never saw so complete and grievous a change they were all horrified they brought him aboard and they gave him clothes Jimmy said he had plenty to eat had found a young bride and absolutely quote had no intention of returning to England so they found him in his natural state which is not fat and they were like my god what's
Starting point is 01:11:48 happy Jimmy you look so healthy what have they done to you oh my lord look at him and he's and he's like happy I mean he's right and the reason why they're like he seems really cold and upset is he's like oh no they're back yeah Jimmy fancy some chicken we've got KFC Jimmy so the other two civilized Yaggins had gone back to their own land after robbing a gemmy of all his clothes and most of his tools they said they're good-byes and headed out quote 10 guanico shot several condors and wildcats killed mr. shoot mr. Stewart shot a very large Puma they also ransacked some natives graves but found nothing of note except the person
Starting point is 01:12:42 in the grave yeah right nothing good in here just the bones of a human just a life we don't respect continually anyway let's go hammer some birds they crossed into the Pacific the entire time he was in South America Charles had been desperately trying to find what is known as the ray a flightless bird similar to an ostrich okay on the 3rd of January 1834 Charles was eating a small ostrich a baby it's called when he suddenly realized he was eating a ray who has this you don't get to experience this moment ever I like this is oh my lord eating my dream it's very awkward moment yeah yeah and one of you could watch the
Starting point is 01:13:43 reaction on someone's face you would net you'd be like what just happened to you I just realized I'm eating a better bird quote the bird was skin and cooked before my memory returned the head neck legs and wings remained which he package up and sent to Winslow labeled leftovers you go man have them with mashed potatoes I swear to God they surveyed chili Charles explored the Andes Fitzroy spent most of his time with the Beagle and the adventure when they arrived at Valparaiso he heard the Admiralty he heard from the Admiralty he was officially reprimanded for buying
Starting point is 01:14:31 the adventure and told to sell it okay which he did and then he immediately bought another schooner without permission the Constitution and they found out and told him to sell that oh you meant don't do it again ever I thought you just like the name unicorn so so weird I need this is all coming from the whale boat he still is trying to like you know it's like when a father leaves and you know all the male figures become your father look you never go you never get over the first boat you lost yeah so this is the one that got away yeah yeah it's tough so after he was forced to sell the second boat Fitzroy
Starting point is 01:15:14 lost it he was having these I mean they really are the odd couple yeah right he was having a breakdown he lost a lot of weight Charles feared quote his mind was becoming deranged Fritz Fitzroy beef briefly resigned but eventually the crew talked him into returning but there's also been a boat on a boat for fucking years yeah but also if you're not go crazy if your captain resigns and then you have to like pep talk him back in you're not like this is still the captain you're like this is we got to get back this guy is not in a good spot right captain like yeah easy Darwin after three years in South America the
Starting point is 01:15:58 Beagle headed for Tahiti but they stopped at the Galapagos Islands for food okay word was there were giant tortoises that were a treat for sailors they arrived on the fifties buckle up he's gonna go crazy he's about to like take a whole turtle they arrived on the 15th of September 1835 the tortoises could be taken this is why they were so valued by sailors they could be taken aboard a ship alive where they could live without food or water for a year it defined live well they sit in a corner and live oh right die right die they're dying not dead now they're sitting in the corner living
Starting point is 01:16:50 right mm-hmm they weren't just used for meat sailors also diluted and drank their urine yeah all right yeah I will get on board with that one now have you had you had a bit of rocky things we what is there any angle other than like does it why are they drinking piss why are they drinking this because they're like we miss Carlsberg well in case they're in case they're out of water which they're not drink the turtle pee right but they're not out of water because they're not them this is what sailors would do okay cool either way they didn't just bring a tortoise on
Starting point is 01:17:42 board and be like let's start drinking the piss yeah sort of so Charles tried to catch one on the first day tried to catch a tortoise was he bound but he was unable to how what happened it's like if a dog saw a turtle like oh I don't know how to hunt it like he's just that like well these I don't know they're big right these tortoises yes but yeah so I think if they're in water they're fast but if they're on land it's like how many do you want to take the birds on the islands were unusually tame Charles quote mr. King killed one with his hat is it possible that this is also the story of when birds learned that
Starting point is 01:18:39 they need to fly the everywhere they go birds are like hey buddy and then it's like think with your hat I just I just want to see that I want to see the what the bird looks like I want to see the condition of the hat I want to see the whole thing I want to see the guy's face after he realized what he had done I'll see it all I want to see hat bird hunting we all do so when they got their tortoise shells were lying all over quote the quantity of tortoise shells lying about the ground shows what havoc has been made among these helpless animals and we were like let's make that mankind's policy forever yeah yeah so
Starting point is 01:19:22 he's he's upset that there's just all these you know empty tortoise shells well that day he caught 15 and the next day 30 and 30 and the next day he killed 40 iguanas because they look at you weird they turn they do the fucking blank how many tortoises can you eat how many well I know the answer 30 40 well plus you know they're taking them they're not killing them they're bringing them on they're bringing on board they're catching the kidnapping right and they're gonna what they're gonna do is take them back to England civilize them teach you about Christ and then send it back to the Galapagos meet Jaffa cake yeah so
Starting point is 01:20:08 well killing Charles killing Charles Charles Charles finally was like what do I taste like I've had a hell of a day I caught myself and ate myself I tasted a lot like Puma which is lamby so Charles noticed on different islands of the Galapagos were there tended to be the same species of animal but they displayed slightly different features well here we go these observations would be essential to his theories such as the finches that had different sized beaks to suit the type of seed that their island possessed he also noticed that the tortoise varied in taste depending on where it was caught is that in one of
Starting point is 01:20:52 his theories theory of different tasting animals for different islands mmm this one's stringy a tortoise that is slow cooked in a crock pot it's not like an iguana you hit over the head with a hammer Darwin this this his theory of evolution did essentially come from just eating everything yes continue from the Galapagos the big ol continued its long trek home observing different cultures in Tahiti in New Zealand Charles remarked on the future of Australia quote with such habits and without intellectual pursuits can hardly fail to deteriorate and become like the United States oh my
Starting point is 01:21:45 god did he know how did he know what did he know what did he know he literally predicted 2019 no in which the US and Australia having a dumb off and barely being beaten by England I don't think that orders right what I think there's I think we're England's next in the fight but come on yeah I actually think Australian America are doing unbelievable I mean in the scale of terrible they're killing it I think we're ahead and then and then look I don't want to show you and then you guys are you don't they expect Americans to be egotistical but to be honest when it comes to failing as a country in a
Starting point is 01:22:27 civilization there's America and then there's everybody else yeah once again American exceptionalism yeah yeah we're number one again just in a terrible way but when he published this sentence later he shamefully deleted the United States part interesting the big ol continued through through Mauritius Madagascar Cape Cape Town St. Helena and the Ascension Islands and Darwin put on a hundred pounds just pounding animals I've been eating turtle for weeks ate my way through a whale finally they were finally about to return home after five years when Fitzroy changed direction
Starting point is 01:23:16 because he thought he found a mistake on his charts he written in Brazil so they went back to Brazil all right the crew was furious I mean that is like I think I spelled that wrong well it's another year finally after the last stop in Brazil the Beatles sped back to England Charles couldn't stand the boat anymore and got off at the first port a fall month he went straight home to Shrewsbury and went to bed without saying hello to anyone in his house after five over five years this is the first this is the first time I totally get Charles Darwin see like you're on that boat and all you're thinking about is my fucking bed is so
Starting point is 01:24:17 awesome yeah but I mean this is a guy who was like obsessed with his hammock of course like the first thing he's gonna do is go for comfort yeah I mean sounds like he's perpetually coming home from college he greeted them at breakfast the next morning hey by the way stop it's been a while five years you guys ever eaten Puma and tortoise it's unbelievable by the way I brought this tortoise if you guys want to drink some pee Becky you really got to wait you had trouble catching that yeah she she's faster than she looks is she moving yeah are you okay what nothing Charles so Chuck Charlie I
Starting point is 01:25:23 just want to say Charles yeah shit gets weird on a boat and buddy so they have holes and and you don't need to say and we're married certainly way to get the head out you can read it all in my report Becky the turtle it's tortoise pass so the Beagle continued around whoa what the oh right so the Beagle after he went home they kept going around the coast sailed to with Fitzroy sailed down or up the Thames to Woolrich which was done on is that not right they went down the Thames what do you want to call it Woolrich Woolrich don't want to don't want to count that W cool and was done on the ship was finally done on the
Starting point is 01:26:32 17th of November 1836 Robert Fitzroy married his lawn at the anniversary day what today's the 17th this is the anniversary well tomorrow's gonna be a big day tomorrow's big let's let's do it right guys let's do it right we're gonna meet and we're gonna drink turtle piss and lay in hammocks and then just eat a bunch of weird and you're in Woolrich tomorrow that's the fucking day to go crazy go big Robert Fitzroy married his long-term fiance Mary O'Brien in 1836 Charles was surprised because Fitzroy had never ever mentioned he was engaged
Starting point is 01:27:15 well probably because after Darwin talked about his engagement that was imaginary he was like this guy seems off I'm not gonna bring it up to him Mary was incredibly religious and Robert's belief in God and the Church of England hardened he began to believe the Bible was the literal truth of the history of man and Dave it is in 1839 Charles married his first cousin Emma Wedgwood nice solid solid move yep yeah it's very very royal yeah I mean yeah and he received the fellowship of the Royal Society Fitzroy published a book charting their voyage Charles supplied three of four volumes sorry the third of the four
Starting point is 01:28:11 volumes but tension then built between the now religious Fitzroy and Charles with his theories of you know heresy yeah and general attitude and general attitude and and his girlfriend Becky when when Robert moved out of London Charles was quote right glad of it on 1841 Fitzroy became a Tory MP oh wow right wow say no more in 1843 he became governor of New Zealand but was recalled shortly after his appointment when he protected the local Maori in a land dispute with white settlers how dare you that is right in 1854 he was made head of a new department that collected weather data which would later become the
Starting point is 01:29:08 Met Office Fitzroy invented a new type of storm detecting barometer that was sent to many fishing communities across the country meanwhile Charles took a sweet time in writing his big book as he called it man for so long he must have just sounded like an actor you know what I mean like he's just at home like man once I get the book together that's gonna be awesome like sure do you want more cereal yeah what are you gonna do today I'm gonna sit here just lay outside I'm real kind of like thinking about all the stuff I learned like put the piece together like a book at some point right well you gotta start writing it at
Starting point is 01:29:52 some point I know yeah it's just like crazy hard though huh it's big big it's gonna be crazy I'm telling you this is not stuff and then he finally does it you're like he was actually smart he was actually a genius so others were starting to come up with the same evolutionary theory so he finally published it in November 1859 under the original title Puma just like lamb or I can't believe I ate the ray so this is 23 years later right he was sitting on that really he people were just like Charles just go get a job at the pub he's like got this read the great book it's called on the origin of species by
Starting point is 01:30:46 means of natural selection or the preservation of favored races and the struggle for life on the origin of species is more commonly known and some recipes for bird and if you go to the back there are some really great recipes yes it became a surprise hit which the church was not happy about Fitzroy felt betrayed and we agreed it was a man in the clouds and he felt responsible for helping Charles create this evolutionary monster that ran against his every belief and threatened the church itself and he's like this is the guy who was just tossing bird wings into an envelope and just sending like this guy has
Starting point is 01:31:31 beaten the church the man who went legs first into a hammock is thwarting God oh by the way couldn't figure out a hammock how involved are you Charles I did figure out in the end motherfucker I did during the 1860 Oxford Evolution debate at the University Fitzroy railed against Charles book and lifted a Bible over his head imploring the audience quote to believe in God rather than man I believe that this is the truth and had I known then what I know now I would not have taken Darwin aboard the Beagle but how about some facts wouldn't that be helpful rather than just being like this books better who's who's pushing back
Starting point is 01:32:20 it makes so much sense the audience shouted him down Fitzroy went bankrupt and then he became depressed undoubtedly Charles publicate yeah no yeah I'm fine with that we could wish other things this is what I'm good with undoubtedly Charles publication added to his mental suffering on the 30th of April 1865 Fitzroy took his own life by slitting his throat with a razor oh my god that is it this is how we did it with a bird oh that is crazy well look if you're gonna do it do it really weird I would say do it with a hat Charles quote I never knew in my life so mixed a character always much to love
Starting point is 01:33:18 and I once loved him sincerely but so bad a temper and so given to a fence that I gradually lost my love and wished only to keep out of contact with him that was in other words my father little on the nose isn't it Dave no it's not because I didn't give a eulogy because we're gonna throw is all right ashes in a bar parking lot after which is illegal after a massacre of missionaries in 1859 Jimmy Button and his family were accused of being involved and faced a trial at the Falkland Islands he denied the charge one of his sons renamed by white people three boy what about Jeff if you're gonna like you know I mean I'm
Starting point is 01:34:14 not saying it's the right thing to do but is it is it possible to not give like counter argument I don't like it already counter argument if you're in a family and you have one boy two boy wouldn't in the next kid Jeff well then two boy feels really weird yeah don't name him two boy that's Kirk well that's what God wanted sounds like a normal God so three boy was taken by missionaries to England in 1866 York Minster married a Fueja basket who took whose weird name I'll take basket nice ring to it but he was murdered in revenge for a murder he himself committed he wager basket met several ships as they passed through
Starting point is 01:35:07 Tierra del Fuego during the 1840s and spent quote some days aboard one ceiling vessel Charles suspected this had a double meeting and feared the worst so she was on a fuckboat what's the fucking deal well lady likes to fuck cool she was last seen by a missionary in 1883 she was seen in missionary by a missionary in 1883 and she was old and unhappy boy everybody's really getting a good run at the end here this is nice yeah the Galapagos tortoise had a population picturing this like the end credits of a movie where it's like this would happen boom the tortoise the tortoise had a population estimated at
Starting point is 01:35:57 250,000 when first discovered in the 16th century and after Darwin that number fell to around 3060 by 1974 thanks to conservation work that started in 2019 it was estimated their population has had risen to 19,317 let's settle down yeah way to the way to the fire there were 250,000 we got 19 left whoo hey we turned around the genocide yeah now we and now we got so many we can heat their home Charles Charles Darwin fathered 10 children with Emma and died on the 19th of April 1882 the 2008 Church of England issued an apology to Darwin for dismissing his ideas in an essay titled good religion needs good science you know
Starting point is 01:36:47 that they lowered the casket in with a hammock as an homage as a sweet sermon so yeah so that's a story of the bagel and Jesus Christ it is a little bit it's a little bit of like every episode horrible theme we've had in episodes in one it's like you've got everything yeah you've got murder yeah abuse of others yeah racism yeah death yeah boats boats checking a lot of boxes so the research for this was done by two gentlemen Cam Gray and Abraham de Kunyak and the reason they did this is because they have a podcast that just came out last week called the devolution of the species a comedy drama
Starting point is 01:37:59 charting the second voyage of the beagle wow so check out their podcast say the name again the devolution of the species the evolution of the species sources the Darwin correspondence project you receive Cambridge Charles Darwin's Beagle diary edited and introduced by Richard Keane and he is no loss Robert McCormick and the voyage of the HMS Beagle by Emily Steele and then Charles Darwin's writing himself obviously yep wow like this is a great example of how shit our education is if they taught that Darwin story you would totally pick up on the evolution shit and the whole time be like this is fucking awesome it's it
Starting point is 01:38:56 reminds me of like how we've George Washington the way that George Washington is you learn nothing about him at school except boring stuff and then after through this there's that the man's mouth was made of horse teeth and wood and that they killed them by just cutting him a bunch yeah friends of his cut him a bunch putting beetles but yeah the idea that you like and I also think that that story would be good to teach because I think it would give people hope it would give anybody who's just like I don't know what to do like I've just been partying for ten years like dude you got this you can Darwin it like the theory
Starting point is 01:39:30 of evolution is not just about the world and animals and species it's really about how Charles Darwin figured out his own life yeah I mean he was putting a bunch of shit in a barrel at first and then yeah yeah he was just like sending bird wings not able to get into a hammock and now the way any any beat religion I mean yeah talk about a Cinderella story and now there's a prayer and now there's a city named after him on Australia that is the opposite well that wait why don't you say well can you say that we were we've talked about going there and what oh we talked about we're talking
Starting point is 01:40:08 about trying to pick a weird city to go to because we always go to a weird city in Australia and I sent a Australian community named Carl Chandler a message I was like hey has anybody ever done a podcast in Australia and Darwin and he goes no that's no one lives there it's just people are on the run which sounds about right actually learning this yeah it's an homage yeah thank you guys so much for coming out we appreciate it

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