The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 416 - Emmeline Pankhurst (live)
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listening to the dollop. This is an American bicycle history podcast. Each
week I Dave Anthony read a story from American history or English history to
my friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about.
And we're off. We're off. July 15th 1858. Some guy said something. That's okay.
I'm upset about the date. Yes sir. It's early to be angry. Emily in Golden was
born in a suburb of Manchester England. Whoa. That's gotta be fulfilling.
Yeah. Congratulations. She was the oldest of ten. Her father Robert ran a
printing business and was very well off. Okay. He was a member of the Liberal
Party. Sure. Both parents were activists. Emeline was 14 when her mother Sylvia
took her to a suffrage meeting. Okay. Wow. Early. Yeah. Something tells me you
still have that attitude. But the family is still very traditional. At 15
Emily went to a progressive school in Paris as one does. As kids do. Yeah.
You know for sure. After back in Manchester she fell in love with Richard
Pankhurst. Okay. What about you. For those of you who don't know. Emily was
20. Richard was 44. That is a low. Wow. What wouldn't they talk about. He was
very well known in Manchester. He was a barrister as you guys call it.
Which is a weird word. Sure. A member of the National Association for the
Promotion of Social Science. The Royal Statistical Society. The Manchester
Chamber of Commerce on and on. He's a man about time. Yeah. Yeah. All right.
Move or shake her. 44. She's 24. She's 20. I'm still thinking about the age.
Yep. He believed in redistribution of wealth. What? Nationalized land.
Abolishing the monarchy. He didn't do it. Spoiler. They're still. Yeah. None of
those have happened. Yeah. It's it's an exciting. It's actually getting worse.
And that women should be able to vote. That hasn't happened either. So they got
married and she cranked out five kids pretty quick. Cranked her. But keep
going. Cranked. Yeah. She's not like Jack in the box. You don't know how Jack in
the box works. Do you. Turn to crank. It's pretty hard to not understand how a
Jack in the box works. Let's see. So there's Christabel Sylvia Adela Frank and
Harry. Wait. Who are they? Those are the kids. Okay. I thought it was a band.
Amalene took her kids to women's activist meetings. Richard ran for
parliament. Wait. Her name is Amalene. Amalene. Amalene took her kids to the
activist meetings. Richard ran for parliament. Parliament. He lost. In 1884
they moved to London. Okay. In 1885. He ran for parliament again. He didn't have
the money to bribe voters with alcohol. Well, he doesn't stand a chance. That's
the whole platform. Yeah. And his Tory opponent put out handbills calling him
quote an atheistic corruptor of Christian virtue. Mm-hmm. Which is probably fair,
right? That's the guy I vote for. If you hand me that. Yeah. That's my guy. That's the
name of a good party to join. Yeah. Yeah. This guy sounds like he likes to fuck
and hang out. Sure does. So Richard lost. Okay. In 1889 the Pancras and Friends
created the women's franchise league, the WFL. Okay. Wrestling. What? In this
quarter. Emily Amalene. It was this organization was to be more aggressive
than other women's organizations. They thought the other organizations trying
to get women's vote were a little lackluster. Yeah. They were pussy or penis
footing. Penis footing. They're penis footing. Yeah. They held meetings at their
home. Sure. Amalene was terrified of public speaking. Emily was sure. Sure.
There's that's Dave. That's Dave. Terrified of public speaking. What was
Amalene feeling? Rage. After a meeting, one meeting, Richard yelled at her
quote, why don't you force us to give you the vote? Why don't you scratch our eyes
out? So it was a good marriage. Yeah. So he's yeah. That's cool. That's got to feel
good. Especially when he's 24 years older. You don't feel like he's a parent.
Well, that's what you do. Yeah. No. It doesn't take on a creepy sort of teacher
bad student vibe now. Now go to bed. Okay. I love. Yes. My lord. I hope sweet
God. This had an impact. They moved back to Manchester in 1994. Richard left the
liberal party and joined the new independent Labor Party. Okay. As he ran as
an ILP candidate. Okay. Was his platform now to get people hammered because I'm
telling you, that's a good one. I know. Yeah, I know. I'm a lean organized free
canteens for the unemployed. Okay. But her father was embarrassed when he saw
her husband father. Oh, sorry. Easy mistake. It very easy. Well, dad's younger. So
it's easy. Obviously, it's one of those. Yeah. Her father when your husband's
giving your father career advice, like keep your chin up. You're gonna come to
my office Thursday, you know, bring your resume and we'll talk. We'll do some
talking. I'm gonna go bang your daughter who's so young, who was so young, but
she's so good in bed. Yeah. Like if you get to my age, you can find someone that
young in 10 years when you're my age, you will meet someone. Oh my God, you should
date my daughter. Oh, that'd be fun. Just doing a little math on your joke here.
It's not going great. So her father was embarrassed when he saw her standing on
a cart in public giving out food to the poor. Of course, that's mortifying. Could
you imagine? Oh my God, you'll catch it. No, no proper woman did such things. No,
that's right. So her parents and some of her siblings did not speak to her again.
Well, it's fucking gross. Like it is the poor is supposed to die. You don't stand
on something higher than the street and hand them food. Yeah, no fucking animal.
Are you? Yeah. Yeah, it does sound horrible. Emily and began volunteering at a local
workhouse for the poor quote. These little girls were clad summer and winter in
thin cotton frogs low in the neck and short sleeved at night. They wore nothing
at all night dresses were being considered too good for poppers. Wow. So
you have no, you just got to go birthday costume. Yeah, you got a birthday
costume if you're a poor, poor orphan situation. Just no clothes. Yeah, it's
cool. It's a good vibe for sure. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's nice to tell a kid that
they're they're they're not good enough for night clothes. Is there any way that
I could potentially have some clothes on? No. But I'm so cold inside of it. It's
so cold and everybody. Oh, maybe I should have been born into another class. We
weren't. Well, to be fair, are you a Tory? Um, you're not a Tory. No, my name's Aaron
with an E.
Well,
it's a very Oliver vibe, but for clothes. Yes. Please sir, may I have a shirt? Another
shirt? Sickning. They're all naked. Yeah, it's weird. Emily no saw. Yeah. I mean,
that's a different movie. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Emily no saw the women's vote as a
necessity. Yep. She thought women would handle this situation a little bit
better. Yeah, right. Because they're empaths and logical. Though she didn't
want poor women to have the vote. Interesting line. That was for middle
class and upper class women. Then they would enact policies to help poor women.
Hmm. So let me into the party. I'll sneak you in the back. Yeah, right. I don't
buy it. In 1898, Emily was in Geneva when a telegram came from Richard. Okay. Oh,
boy. Quote, please come home. I am not well. But he's like 100. Yeah. He's aging
very quickly. While you were gone. I put on 50 years. So on the way home, she's
riding the train and she sees another passengers newspaper. And in it, it says
right there that Richard has died. Oh, Jesus Christ. Talk about understating
your telegram, which we've all done. Who hasn't done that? Perforated ulcer just
right there. Please come home. I'm dead. That puts a gas on it. Yeah. So she got a
job and she raised the kids. In 1903, Crisabelle was studying law. But with a
little bit of a hiccup here, she got a lot of greed. But since she was a woman,
she couldn't be a lawyer. So the point of is that that what they tell you at the
end of school, like a graduation and all you women have, this is where your road
ends. This is it. Congratulations. You've got a head full of knowledge and it's
useless. You can help your husband, lawyers, maybe, but don't. That would be
wrong. Yeah, little brains are not for that. Okay. Sylvia was at the Royal
College of Art. Adele was studying to become a teacher. And then so our kids
are growing up. So Emily decides to focus on getting the vote for women. Okay.
All three daughters still the same policy as the poor women don't vote. Yeah,
she's not really into the poor women getting the vote. Okay. All three daughters
were on board. They're like, let's do this. And they came up with a plan for an
organization. It would not be a democracy. There would be a permanent
leadership. David, it really doesn't sound like a democracy. It's orders from
leaders could not be questioned. David only women can join. Membership was one
shilling. Women could work exclusively for this group until suffrage was one if
they tried to promote other causes or work for other causes. They would be
tossed out of the group. If they questioned the group or orders, they
would be tossed out of the group. Is this about the Royal Family? And this became
the women's social and political union. Okay. WSPU. I don't really thought that
would hit us hit something. What you thought you thought your acronym was
going to get something just that you might go. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. The WSPU.
This is the WSPU story. I'm always wondering where it came from. Yeah.
For future reference, I don't get wowed with acronyms. I know. Not in that order
either. I can acronym that. You give me the acronym. Tell me what it stands for.
I might go. I'm just giving you some notes. Chris Bell, Amelie and Ms. Jacob
were the leaders. Women began speaking on streets to people just passing by,
which was very weird for them. Sure. For the people passing by. I think for the,
for both. You know, the women, that's not something that they ever did in the
society. They just climb on a stool and start talking. They mostly get heckled.
It's all right. Stuff like, don't do that. You're a woman. Yeah. I'm like, it's
Gareth. She like that. I get it. He tried. So they would also, they also started
interrupting government meetings. Okay. Yelling. We deserve the vote. Sure. And
the group grew and grew and grew. MP, Keir Hardy said he'd introduce a woman's
suffrage bill in parliament. Okay. He's like, I'll do this. But the parliament's
conservative controlled at this point. Right. So he just kind of wanted to get
it heard. Get it out there. Sure. Get on the floor. Right. On May 12th, 1905,
suffragists waited outside as the bill was the last on the schedule for the day.
Okay. And then they sat outside and sat outside. Okay. And it turned out the MPs
were staging what I believe in England is called the talk out. Okay. What we call
a filibuster. Right. Where they were just chatting and chatting and chatting and
running out the time. Right. And then the session ended. And when Hardy came out to
tell the women, the women heard the men in the background celebrating for
preventing suffrage from being discussed. Okay. So they hear men celebrating and
they're like, it's not good. Don't have a good vibe. Yeah. So she goes back.
Amalene goes back to Manchester and Crisabal sees her. Okay. And goes, quote,
I'm going to prison. Why? Wait, is that like a choice? She's like my law degree
didn't work out. So I'm going to be a convict. She'll just let you in if you ask
him. She's making a choice. I would like to live in jail. At the Liberal
Party's Manchester campaign launch for the general election, there was no
mention of suffrage. So Crisabal and her friend Annie are there and they stood up
and they shouted, quote, will the Liberal Party give votes to women? Crisabal held
a banner. A few men encouraged them, but most yelled things like throw them out
or sit down you girls. Yeah. This is a man talk time. It's weird because I've
never thought a parliament is stuffy. Yeah. Or these people is put, you know what
I mean? Like it just seems a little out of character. Yeah, they seem pretty open.
Yeah. Yeah. They were asked if their question was answered at the end if they
would stay quiet. This is a lie. They're gonna run the clock out again. So they agreed
and they wrote down the question and handed it to the guy to read and then
turns out he didn't answer it. And then Sir Edward Gray rose to close the
meeting and Crisabal and Annie stood up and shouted, quote, will the Liberal
government give women the vote? And then party stewards grabbed them and dragged
them as they kicked and screamed out of the building. Some delegates slapped and
pushed them as they passed by. One one one man then punched Crisabal in the back
of the hill, then you yelled, quote, suffrage. I'll give these hussies something
to suffer for.
Did you hear what I said? Yes. Yes. Yes. It's just, you did really hit her.
You hit her in the head. At the back of the head. Yes. Well, she was a woman talking.
I understand and I, and I, she should get out of here, but you just really, I mean,
that is, I mean, you are, uh, the joke though. Yes. The joke,
unbelievable. And what I love about the joke is it doesn't need all the bells
and whistles. Thank you. You don't need to, don't listen further,
uh, because you don't need to punch her in the back of the head for that to work.
That's a hat on a hat. Yes. But the punching is, you know, you know, that,
you know, that when you deliver, when you deliver, she was asking for the vote.
Yes. I was here. I was here. I just think you've misunderstood what punch line means.
I don't. You say it. Your words do it. Yeah.
Yeah. Something to think of because again, it's not a great look. Yeah. All right. You're in your
hummoan again. Outside the police restrained their arms and the women. Right. It's time to get,
it's absolutely time to restrain these law breaking. They, they were in a meeting and
they stood up inside. Yeah, absolutely. Cristobal knew, uh, to, to get arrested,
she had to resist, right? But she couldn't because they were holding her arms.
So she turned around and spat in the officer's face. Nice. Nice. Nice. But she couldn't get
any spit. It was dry. So nothing came out, but the cop was still like, what the fuck?
And he arrested her. So it worked. So she, all right. Yeah. So she mimes spat and he was like,
that'll do. She was crying. What matters is she had intent.
So they, uh, they spent five days in prison and they wanted to go to jail to obviously,
like put some more. Well, suffrage had been pretty much ignored by newspapers,
but this made headlines. Right. Woman almost spits. Woman's cotton mouth almost results in no
prosecution. Stoned lady can't do it. Uh, some papers tried to demean the women by calling
them suffragettes. You know, what's amazing is that some papers tried to demean them because
that means that a couple didn't. Well, there's some that weren't crazy. Okay. Yeah. By calling them
the suffragettes instead of suffragists and the women liked it. And they were like, no,
I like that better. And so they started calling themselves suffragettes, suffragettes. Yeah,
I like it. It's got a little more Rockettes vibe now. Yeah. Old friends from the liberal party,
chastised Amaline. Amaline. Oh yeah. Okay. Just rolls off the tongue. Her job was threatened.
Uh, she got many letters, however, from women who were being treated as second class citizens.
Yeah. And more and more women signed up. Right. Okay. So membership. So mission accomplished.
Mission accomplished because of the arrest membership tripled. Right. Okay. Their house
became the headquarters and they went and heckled more politicians as much as they could.
All of our women interrupted meetings and were thrown out, usually violently.
The WSPU's goal was to drink water. They knew to hydrate before yeah, yeah, they're hydrating
now. The spitters are happening. Yeah, you have like Lugie practice. You run Lugie drills. Yeah,
you get ready for war. The WSPU's goal was to get publicity. And with more publicity came more
members. There were now six suffrage groups with 350,000 members. Okay. Wow. So in 1906,
the liberal party won and WSPU headquarters removed to London. Okay. So on opening day of parliament,
they marched down to the House of Commons to sit in the ladies gallery. Okay. Interesting. Nice.
It is for ladies. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. They eventually allowed the women to enter in groups
of 20 to speak. Okay. Hundreds stood in the freezing rain for hours waiting their turn.
This is England. So you just have to say people stood outside.
We know the condition.
But after they all said what they wanted to say, no one in parliament took them up on
their cause. Okay. The very wealthy. This is weird. Yeah. Yeah. Perthwick Lawrence.
Emma Lyne. Sorry. The very wealthy Emma Lyne Perthwick Lawrence and her husband joined the
WSPU. Okay. And started a newspaper called Votes for Women. In May 1906, the House finally
debated women's suffrage. Well, all right. Yeah. Fucking make a progress, right? Sure.
But I feel like you saying that means that it's not happening. No. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's it.
The debate. The debate was more male politicians that he was hilarious that women would get
involved in politics. Of course. It is always great for the men to debate the women's rights.
Yes. I know what it's like to be a lady. I've tucked my penis between my legs and
danced in the mirror. I'm familiar with the suffering they've been through.
And then a guy fucked me in an alley. Good lord. Wait. I didn't. Sorry. What was the...
I was... I don't know if you need to keep talking.
I was thinking of when I was a sailor.
No. I'm going to stop talking. Yes. I remember the advice I gave you 15 seconds ago.
I like... Stop talking.
It feels nice. That's...
I'm just saying... No, don't do that. We're talking about another thing entirely, Dan.
Wear something soft to bed. Once. Did you just smell your fingers?
Not okay. Stop hitting them. Quit taking rips off your hands.
Most agree that women were wonderful at being wives and mothers.
Oh, yes. It's not like they can't do anything. Boy, oh boy, can they support the hell out of your life.
But it would demean them to give them the vote and elect them to public office.
Yes. They don't understand how tough it would be. It would be lost. It is foolish, foolish,
women, adorable. Somehow the resolution was defeated.
What just happened? Someone didn't understand that the men didn't like it.
I mean, why isn't it called womanchester? That's my question, huh?
See, those guys over there are with me.
Christabel graduated from law school and worked for the WSPU.
Because she could not be a lawyer.
They held street meetings, handed out leaflets, carried banners on the street,
and hung banners in factories. They scrawled votes for women on shop windows with soap.
The goal was to get London talking about suffrage.
Right, by banners and soap.
Many of the women couldn't comprehend making a street speech,
so Emmeline hosted tea parties and literally would stand up on chairs and demonstrate how to give a
speech in history. They did role play. You see, now I am now standing up on a chair,
making myself taller than other people, and I'm saying something important,
and I'm gesturing with my hands, and I'm letting people know that I have a big point.
Now you try it, Sally. Now come on, get up. Try it. No. Try it. No. Sorry.
Sorry. You bit my hand. Yeah.
I have a stool phobia. Well here, do it on this chair. No. I don't like chairs.
Do it on the soapbox. I don't like standing high. I think this is more than being high on things.
Bert told me no. Bert your dog? Yes. Sally.
On Tuesday, October 23, 1906, two or three women entered the House of Commons at a time
saying they were there to meet their MPs. Okay.
Western Gazette, quote, at half past four, the suffragettes screamed suddenly to go mad,
seemed suddenly to go mad. One woman jumped on a chair and began to speak.
Not Sally, obviously, she is. I would never.
The Love and Eating Standard, quote, Chief Inspector Scantlebury. I mean, come on. What?
I mean, come on. That guy got the job only off the name. Yeah. What's his name? Scantlebury.
Give me the whole title. Sir. Shut up. Chief Inspector, Chief Inspector Scantlebury.
Chief Inspector from Scooby-Doo Land.
Chief Inspector Scantlebury lifted the first woman just as if she were a bundle of clothes.
What?
Bodily carried her, kicking and screaming down the steps of St. Stephen's Hall.
There he deposited her. The word he deposited his struggling burden in the street, hot and
breathless. He returned to the scene. I mean, that's some slanted commentary, too. That is
a bundle of clothes deposited. Yeah, someone, someone made it. Someone
views women as object. It's right if you decipher the language.
But once the first woman was grabbed and another leapt up and started speaking,
on and on it went like this, it turned into total chaos. Women grabbed furniture, banisters,
anything they could reach and clung to it as men tried to remove them.
That is, I mean, the men were like, a ladybomb went off. They are everywhere. Get out of here.
Let's go to that chair. That's our chair. Oh, these women. Eventually.
One of them was standing. My heart is stopped beating. Oh, for fuck's fucking fuck.
No. The last thing you cannot see is a woman looking you with the eyes.
I'm dying, Ted. I'm dying. Do me a favor. I have a simple request. Kill every woman.
Fulfill it. He did. You guys heard him.
I'm still alive a little and not feeling great about the actions you're taking to
fulfill my dying. I'm going to open a hotel in Chicago for the World's Fair.
What? It sounds possible. Eventually, all of the women were removed.
Ten were arrested. Adela was one of them. In court, they refused to testify. Then one woman
unfurled a banner. Quote, someone grabbed the banner, protest howls, screams, and shouts.
This is the same writer as the previous. It's got a real flair.
Miss Baldock was hauled right off, struggling and shouting. Miss Miller had to be dragged away
as she held on to the solicitor's bench. Miss Billington and Miss Gotharp's fingers had to
be unclasp before they could be removed. So hard to unclasp a digit to the work.
They were hauled out of court, leaving shreds of clothing, hats, hairpins, and paper
strewed along the floor. Oh, boy. So it's chaos in court, too.
Yeah. Hat pins and hats everywhere. We know what that leads to.
Stabbings. So Emily asked for a meeting with Chancellor H.H.
Asquith. What the fuck? Dave, come on. Are you these names?
Asquith? Asquith sounds like when you shard. It is. I just looked it up backstage. It is 100%.
Asquith. She actually said it's Asquite. Oh, I know she'll be yelling in a minute.
Asquith. He refused a meeting. She said, well, we're coming anyway, and we're going to your
house. Interesting. So they go to his house, and he ran out the back and sped off in his car.
What a loser. I'm a man. Two days later, a group of 30 women showed up,
but they were met by police who ripped banners from their hands, and some women were hit.
One woman yelled, quote, we will go forward. You have no right to strike women like that.
And a cop punched her in the face and choked. It was a weird laugh. You started to laugh,
and they're like, oh, wait, I shouldn't be laughing at that. And then you're kind of
want to laugh. The devil's in the details. You punched her in the face and choked her
until she was blue, and then she was arrested for assaulting a police officer. Oh my God.
By the way, which is very American. That is just about to say that's how it works in America.
Yeah, 100%. Yeah. The WSPU began opposing liberal candidates in by elections. Okay.
Do you know what a by election is? Yep. I'll explain. They do it once. They do it every two
weeks. Yeah. So it's like, yes, it's like some of these before their term is supposed to be up.
And it's like a, you know, right, what we call it, we call it an off election. Right. Yeah. So
they were feeling betrayed by the broken promises of the liberal party. So in February 12, 1907,
it was opening day of parliament, and Emmeline held a women's parliament at Caxton Hall,
where they decided to send a delegation to the House of Commons to deliver a resolution.
Okay. Sounds all very professional. Sure. I've got a real feeling they'll be a banner.
They got there. They were stopped by police and told to leave. Sure. They wouldn't leave.
And then mounted cops arrived. Then mountain, mounted, mounted, mounted, mounted on, on, on
horses, mounted, mounted, gotcha. The women still fought to get to the door until they were arrested.
They were bailed out and they came back the next day. Again, cops were there.
And they kept fighting to reach the door. And this time they were beaten. Over 50 women were
arrested, including Christabel and Sylvia. They all took 14 days in jail over a fine. Okay.
Because they want to be in jail. Well, they don't want to. But you know what? Right. Yeah.
This incident turned many newspapers from anti to pro suffragette. Because they were beat.
Yeah. I mean, that's how it is for a guy. You don't, you see some old woman's not,
not, is doing that you don't like. And then someone punches her in the face and you're like, okay.
Men are pretty cool.
Easy to sway. That's what we've always said about men. That's right. Well, now you punched her.
Now I have to like that. They asked why. It's a rare stance, by the way. Yeah. They asked why
the government was afraid of petitions and was sending mounted troops to fight women. Totally
legitimate. Yes. Fair, fair, fair ask. A month later, the women were again prevented from presenting
their resolution. Okay. This time 75 women were arrested. Again, hitting the hall. It all goes on
again. Yeah. Emily traveled to England to influence by elections. Sorry, travel around England to
influence by elections. By early 1908, the WSPU helped defeat a liberal candidate in Newton Abbott,
a liberal stronghold. Okay. The, that night, Emily and her friend were walking back to their
lodging. So they just had a big fucking night. They're like, we killed it. Dave, don't, you don't
need to lie. That's it. That's all. That's all. You don't need to like fake set the scene of like,
hey, they had a great night. They're just taking a walk home. Walking home. Yeah. Something's about
to happen. Something. Some young men saw them and through clay and rotten eggs.
They were clay workers. So they did. Well, it's still, yeah. I don't want to make it sound like
it was just people walking around in England with a bunch of clay. Quick, melt your pots.
And the rotten eggs. They just had those in case. Just in case women showed up. Yeah, right. Yeah.
That's called courting. Uh huh.
The two women tried to escape behind a building down a small lane, but the boys were waiting for
them. Emily's friend was beaten. A shopkeeper saved her and then they turned on Emily quote,
expected to get into the house too. But as I reached the threshold, a staggering blow fell
on the back of my head. Rough hands grasped the collar of my coat and I was flung violently to
the ground. Just then the police arrived. It took months for her to cover from her injuries.
Still a few days later, she was speaking to a hundred thousand people in Yorkshire for the
next by-election. Wow. A hundred thousand people. Yeah. Wow. That's cool. Now. All right. There's
numbers now. There's numbers. Yeah. The new session of parliament. All you had to do was get beaten
a bunch and turned into pots. That's right. The new session of parliament opened and it was a repeat
as the previous ones. They took the resolution to the door. The cops stopped them. Fighting ensued.
50 women were arrested. The prosecutor said if they did this again, he would dust off the
tumultuous petitioning act of 1661 and you don't want that. That is such a parliament threat.
Don't make me get tumultuous on you ladies. Don't you make me dust off. You wouldn't like me when
I've dusted off. Okay. So that act says no group larger than 12 people was allowed to petition
the monarch or the House of Commons. Well, that's a bullshit rule. It's a fucking great rule. It is
if you're them. Yes. Yes. The elites, obviously. So Amalien then decided to lead a delegation
herself of more than 12 women. It's a problem. None of the other women wanted her to do it. They're
like, she's the one they don't want to get fucking hurt. She's just been beaten up. So they're like,
what if you don't do this? But she's like, no, I'm doing it. So Amalien and eight others were
arrested under the tumultuous petitioning act. But the government then realized that they were
trying to get arrested because then they could say they're... A male government really figures
shit out fast, don't they? Hear me out. I've got a feeling this is what they want. You believe it.
Well, they wanted to get petitioned under the act. So they could be considered political prisoners
because political prisoners were treated better than your common street thug. So the government
then switched it and instead charged them as common criminals. Okay. So now they can just
be regular prisoners. Yeah. Right. Now, Amalien had not been in jail yet, and she was shocked.
The smell was terrible. Quote, soon I found myself sickening for fresh air. My head began to ache.
Sleep fled. I think she's... She can't sleep. Right. Yeah, I've had that. It didn't flee. Sleep didn't
actually go anywhere. Yeah. It doesn't run away. Well, oh, go sleep. It's the Sandman. Where'd he go?
He's behind that chair. I lay all night suffering with cold gasping for air,
aching with fatigue, and painfully wide awake. I was kept in solitary. So on April 1908,
Mr. Asquith became Prime Minister. Prime Minister Asquith? Yeah. I know, right? It's not a good
name. David Lloyd George became the Chancellor. He's here tonight. Don't think you're going to enjoy
this story. Amalien announced a rally in June in Hyde Park. The largest crowd that had ever gone
to Hyde Park had been 72,000 for a rally. Sir, did you hear the people around you? Sir,
I'm just going to say it once, shut the fuck up. Go ahead.
The suffragettes got 500,000. Wow, so solid. So they beat the old record by 425,000.
Nothing like it had ever been seen before. So they're like, okay, this is a fucking moment
of change. We're actually doing something, something is happening. Right. That night,
Christabel sent the Prime Minister a resolution, and he responded that women's suffrage was
somewhere in quote, a remote and speculative future. Oh, so a commitment. Finally, someone is in.
It's an English rape saying no. How big of a charity you have to stand up for 500,000?
It's a lot, chairs. So all these women who have been hopeful that day were now really fucking
angry. Two women went to number 10 Donning Street and threw a rock through a window.
Nice. Good start. Come back. Women then interrupted more MPs meetings. David Lloyd George became so
angry with all the interruptions. He said the women should be gagged or have sacks thrown over their
heads. Jesus Christ. He told his stewards to quote ruthlessly throw the women out. The day before
a demonstration, Amelie, Christabel, and another woman were arrested for publishing handbills that
would incite the public to do a certain illegal act. That's what it said. Do we know what the act
is? No. Okay. That night, 60,000 suffragettes marched and 24 women were arrested. In court,
Christabel said she'd act as an attorney for the three women. The judge allowed it even though she
wasn't a lawyer because she only had a law degree was a woman. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. You could play fake
lawyer. She's pretty good for someone who doesn't know anything.
So Emily was sentenced to three weeks. Christabel got 10 weeks in jail. So she's out in the courtyard
and she hasn't seen Christabel in like a week and she yells her name and she's like, I'm over here
and she goes over and holds Christabel's arm and she is then classified as a dangerous criminal.
Yeah. Well, you hold an arm. Look out. The WSPU began holding daily protests at the jail in Oliver
Britain. Whenever the prime minister and the cabinet went, they were accosted by women. More women
were arrested in jail and then they began... Women were arrested in jail? And jailed. And jailed. I
was like that. You can't do that. You're going to prison's prison. Oh, no. Double prison for you.
You're going to the real jail. Oh, no. Inside the jail. Oh, no. Double jail.
Double jail. Well, miss Packhurst, it's time for double jail.
Oh. It's like Russian dolls. I said put her in the other jail. The jail within the jail that's
inside a prison. And then the woman began hunger strikes. This got a lot of publicity and sympathy.
Okay. And then jail started releasing the women before their sentences were done because they
didn't want to blame for serious health problems. Right. The women would break... So the women would
have like a... What do you call it? Organized... Event. It's not the right word. All at once they
would... I was synchronized. Synchronized. Yes. So they would do it. They would do it across jails.
They would all at once break the windows of their cells. Okay. And then start a hunger strike.
Okay. So after usually a week, they'd be released. On February 29th, 1909,
Amaline led another delegation to the House of Commons. This time, she followed the law
and had a group of only 10 women. Okay. She was arrested for breaking... Trying to give a piece
of paper to the House of Commons. Right. All right. I mean, that's literally why they're being
arrested. Yeah. Yeah. They're not allowed to bring a fucking letter. The next group of 10 arrived,
same thing. They arrested on and on. So the law... After group... Right. So the law means nothing.
Right. So that day, women began throwing stones at government buildings. They smashed windows at
the Admiralty Office, the Home Office, the Treasury, the Privy Council offices. 108 women were arrested
in 14 went to jail. Okay. So it's stepping up a little bit, getting a little hot. Yeah. The government
didn't know how to deal with these stubborn women. I don't know. What about go away? It's not...
Please stop. Please. You know you're women. I yell and then you don't. Do you have any
idea how history works? It's really... Not for me. They were sent to solitary confinement.
They were handcuffed for 24 hours straight. They were put into stray jackets. Absolutely nothing.
Nothing was breaking the women. And it only seemed to increase their militancy. Right. So the government
began to force feed the hunger strikers. What? You can't... Yes. That was actually illegal.
It was illegal? Yes. Okay. But laws don't matter. How does one force feed? Okay. Is it like how you
make pate? So you were only allowed to... You waterboard with fries? Yes. Sorry, chips. You put a
McDonald's fry up each nose. Yeah. You blow it in. So you were only allowed to force feed someone
if they were insane and wouldn't eat. It's a crazy law. You're mad. Eat. You ready? Quote,
two doctors and the wardresses appeared in her cell and forced Miss Lee down to the bed and held
her there. To the horror, the doctors... To her horror, the doctors produced a rubber tube
two yards in length. It is pate. And this he began to stuff up her nostril. Why? What? The pain
was so dreadful that she shrieked again and again. Three of the wardresses burst into tears.
What's a wardress? I think it's like a female prison guard. Okay. Right. Burst into tears
and the junior doctor begged the other doctor to desist. Having his orders from government,
the doctor persisted and the tube was pushed down into the stomach. One of the doctors...
Had this been done before or this is just your guinea pig? Well, they'd done it to... Yeah,
they'd done it to insane. In the insane. Yeah, but I don't think they'd done it to just prisoners
who didn't want to eat. Do you get to say what you want? Meatloaf! Right. The gravy. The gravy.
Get the gravy. Get the gravy. You're going to love this. We work on this all day.
Right. What vegetable do you want as a side? What vegetable do you want as a side?
Peace! Peace! Peace it is!
That's really good. That was delicious.
One of the doctors, standing on a chair and holding the tube high, poured liquid food
through a funnel, almost suffocating the poor victim. Oh my God. So they're doing that to all
the women now who are on a hunger strike. Prime Minister Asquith now traveled with bodyguards.
By the way, Asquith sounds like what happens after you get force fed. That's what it is.
He's now traveling with bodyguards and official quote, Chuckers Out. Cool. So they had like 30
seconds to pick a name? What about Chuckers Out? Yep, that'll do. Let's keep moving. We've got it.
Their job was to toss women who interrupted meetings out. Really good name then, obviously, yeah.
In 1910, a committee in the House of Commons drew up a bill that gave the vote to women
householders and owners of businesses paying 10 months or more rent or more in rent a year.
It's baby steps, but they are starting to be like, okay, I mean, it's classism,
still obviously, but they are starting to be like... Like how many women are in that time?
Homeowners or business? Right, okay. But still, PM Asquith vetoed it. Nice. No!
Sorry, I pictured it. Yeah. In November 18, 1910, Parliament convened for the autumn session.
The women returned and marched in groups of 10. Amalene led the first group. Crowds helped hold
back the police so the women could climb the steps. Okay. She was at the door when she heard a scream.
Amalene quote. Then they laid hands on the women and literally threw them from one man to another.
Some of the police used their fists, striking the women in their faces,
that's not throwing their shoulders. Right. Well, they're doing the, they're throwing them
to each other and then a guy would hit her and throw her back. Super cool. That age as well, right?
One woman I saw thrown down with violence three or four times in rapid succession
until last she lay only half-conscious against the curve. Jesus fucking Christ. Every moment
the struggle grew fiercer as more and more women arrived on the scene. It went on for an hour.
Oh my God. Throwing women around and punching them. Mounted cops were then brought in.
Women kept trying to. Were the mounted cops also beating the women? Yes. Okay. So the cops are like,
right, right, break it up. Well, I think they would run them down with horses as well as beating
them a little bit of both. Sure. Right. Options. Women kept trying to climb the steps and cops
kept beating them and the crowd became more angry. Quote, people began to demand why the women were
being knocked about. Why if they were breaking the law, they were not arrested. Why if they were
not breaking the law, they were not permitted to go unmolested. Right. And yet it went on and on
for five hours. Holy shit. They weren't just being hit by cops, but also men who were there.
And of course, they were being groped. Then they finally started making arrests after five hours.
115 women and four men were arrested. They were bruised, choked, and injured. Inside the House
of Commons, members asked the Prime Minister to just receive the deputation. Right. And he refused.
I like this ass quiff. He's really cool. Yeah, he's great. If only we had a villain in this story.
Yeah. Who would it be? It's hard to pick one. Yeah. I think it's the horses.
The headquarters, Caxon Hall was turned into a makeshift hospital. Volunteer doctors and
nurses treated them. The seriously injured were transferred to the hospital. Emeline's sister,
Mary Clark, would go on to die from the injuries she received that day, as would two other women.
It became known as Black Friday. Well, which we now celebrate every year. With sales. By getting a
cheap TV. And it's a similar vibe. It's almost the same. Because on Black Friday, you still are
allowed to not only beat women, but beat anybody if they're reaching for, you know, your TV,
your blender, whatever. Yeah, whatever it is. If they're getting to the Vitamix before you,
you may beat them. Yeah. That's right. So it is an homage. It's still a holiday. We celebrate in
America. It's great. That was the weirdest thing being in Sweden. They're like, no, yeah, we have
Black Friday. Everywhere. Everywhere. You're like, why did this happen? Oh, capitalism. Yeah. Then
Cyber Monday. The House of Commons now said they would take up the consolation bill. And a truce
was called a truce between the women who keep beating the women and the women who keep getting
beaten. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Sure. So they're not going to harass a heckle do the the women aren't
going to show up anymore. That's right. To not break the law. And the men agree to no longer beat
them for not breaking the law. It's pretty to meet in the middle. That's nice. That's cool.
Well, you put it that way. Yeah, no, that makes sense. But Prime Minister asked with here we go.
The bill again. Women hit the streets with hammers and stones. There we go. Yeah. Yes. They broke
hundreds of windows in the home office, the war and foreign offices, the board of education,
the pervy council and others. Can I just say that's why I think you need a five day waiting period
to get a hammer? Because what you're doing is you're just acting on your emotions. Yeah. And you
got to do a background check to see if someone because that's what we have in America, right?
That's why you hear about all these school hammerings. It's just coming from people,
you know, who you're not. Are they mentally, you know, are they meant as compass? You got to know.
Yeah. Like I said, we just need hammer, hammerproof backpacks. Well, and also that's why we've got
to start giving the teachers hammers. Yeah, you give the teachers hammers hammers. It's not,
it's not a mental health crisis. You know, outside of hammer, though, who Jesus Christ. Yep. Thank you.
Thank you. Our boy. First got to build a bunch of shit.
220 women were arrested. They finally were allowed a meeting with, by the way, though,
if you're in the hammer business right now, honey, get more. This is amazing. Or the rock business.
I don't know if that's a thing. I don't think it is. I think it's out on the street. I would just
hang out by Parliament with a wheelbarrow full of rocks. Like, no, I'm just here. I don't know. I'm
just hanging out. Oh, is it resolution day? I don't know. I don't know why. I'm just making a new sidewalk.
So they were finally allowed a meeting with Asquith and Lloyd George. It was Cristobal and
five other women. Cristobal told Aswith. He has quiff. Asquith, sorry. Thank you. He had tricked
and misled them and he responded with empty promises. So then Cristobal told him, quote,
we are not satisfied. And he replied, quote, I did not expect to satisfy you. To be fair,
that was his policy with all women in any circumstance.
It's just a blanket system. I've never satisfied a woman before and I never will.
That was quick. Anyway, roll me a cigarette, will you? I'm famished. Put some of those
fries in my stomach through the tube. Oh, don't look so displeased. I almost made it in.
Come on down to tube Fridays for gravy day. Tube Fridays, you don't need to use your mouth.
One of the results of Black Friday was that the women weren't going to demonstrations unprepared
ever again. Some started putting cardboard under their clothes to protect their ribs.
Uh, like they do in prison. That's the craziest. Isn't there also a better option?
What do you say? Like not getting hit? Well, no, like iron, steel. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
cardboard, like that's right. Flotify your chest with blankets. Iron's a little,
iron's a little thick. I mean, I don't know how much they had available, you know,
but yeah, you're right. Thank you. They might have put other stuff in there.
Well, it's just my only note. And then I should have looked up this woman's,
you can just yell it. Yeah, whenever you're ready, just shout it out.
And then there was Edith Gerud.
But, gotta, gotta ask the suffragette up back. Some, there was a nice pause though. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. It wasn't, yeah, there was thought. So,
we now have an arbiter of names up there. Yes. I'll allow it. I want to see where this name goes.
So Edith is married. Okay. And her and her husband were jujitsu experts.
Oh, Dave. Ah, this is a nice twist.
And she's an expert. Go, baby. Go. Let's hear it.
And she'd been around for a bit helping women learn how to defend themselves when they were
attacked heckling MPs. Sure. Army women would jujitsu to beat up MPs? Yes. This is good.
So now all suffragettes were encouraged to learn the martial art. And that became obviously even
more so after Black Friday. Edith now headed up a group of jujitsu trained protectors. Dave!
Dave! Called. Oh, yes. The bodyguard. 30 women who undertook, quote, dangerous duties.
This is like Tarantino territory now. Well, sometimes they would just get a message and it
would be like, you're going to follow this car for 15 minutes. Like they would just get like
crazy shit and just be ready to do whatever. The press nicknamed them Amazons. That's not surprising.
They would carry because sometimes you would order them and you'd never know when they'd come.
No. Oh, go ahead. They carried clubs hidden under their clothing.
What are they wearing? They're just wearing cloaks? Well, they just they're trying to look like
anybody else. Right. But it sounds like they've got a lot of layers on and they're hiding like
stuff under there. Well, it was hard for them to carry the clubs for sure. Sure. The WSP announced
a demonstration on March 4th, 1912. What they didn't announce was the demonstration on March
1st. A bunch of women showed up at 10 Downing Street and started throwing stones through the
windows. Then they were arrested. And then in another area of the city, a group of women began
throwing stones and they were arrested. And then another group in another area of the city started
throwing stones. And every 15 minutes, a new group would attack another part of the city.
And they didn't just hit government buildings. They broke windows of shops, banks, post offices,
and more. So now this is where it's like homeland, where you've got the corkboard on the yarn,
like, look, there's a pattern over here. Every 15 minutes, one of them strikes. It's making a W.
Oh, my God.
Now on March 4th, for the actual announced demonstration, thousands of cops were waiting
at Parliament Square. But the women were in Knightsbridge, where they started throwing rocks
and breaking windows. I love how it's an era where, like, you're just totally taken at your word
for when you're going to damage stuff. Well, what are you guys doing on the 4th? That works for us
if we can do it after four. If we can do that after four, great. Let's do that. We'll do that.
We'll meet around here. You'll beat the shit out of us. You'll force us to eat. That'll work great.
When they were lectured about the sanctity of private property, and schedules, suffragettes
responded, quote, if the government is deaf to our petitions, perhaps they can hear the smashing
of glass. Dave, is there a better mantra for today? It's a hell, like, yeah.
It's like, the feeling you get when you sign an online petition, you should not get.
That's not a feeling you should get. You should not be allowed to have that feeling. That feeling
should be bottled inside of you until you are getting trained in jiu-jitsu. You have dress
baths, and you're ready to fucking throw stones every 15-minute coordinated. I mean, that's like,
that's how you do shit. Yeah. Also, they had a really good writer, whoever wrote that line.
Yeah, right. So, Emily and 200 women were given two months in jail. Okay. She went on a hunger
strike and received another warrant while in jail. Mr. and Mrs. Pethwick Lawrence were also
arrested and jailed. A warrant was put out for Christabel, who fled to Paris. At her trial...
Great place to flee that time of year, by the way. Oh, the fucking grass. Gorgeous. At her trial,
Emily quoted an old statement by David Lloyd George, quote, there comes a time in the life
of people suffering an injustice when the only way to maintain one's self-respect is to revolt
against that injustice. It's the guy that... Do you remember when you said that and now you're
force feeding me through tubes? You fucking piece of shit. Yes. Do you remember that when you said
that? Yes. Yes. That was you. Yes. Yeah. Hi. I went for a rock at your head. Oh, but my head's no.
Please no. So, they got nine months and of course went on a hunger strike. Yeah. Suffragists
and other jails joined them. There were over 80 hunger strikers and the government went back
to force feeding. Jesus Christ. Anytime a woman was mistreated in jail, the suffragists in jails
across the city would smash out cell windows and go on hunger strikes. Angry members of parliament
questioned Asquith about the forced feeding. He said they had... Asquith is not handling this right.
No, he's like... I mean, obviously. This is really just like how do not do something. Right.
What's the worst way to handle a situation? Ignore it. It'll go away. And then keep saying fuck off.
Yeah. So, he said the women had an option to sign a pledge not to engage in militant suffrage
activity. Duh. We've given them the option to stop. They could not do this. What's wrong with them?
They're brains. They have cake recipes.
Emeline went into a semi-conscious state and began hallucinating. Nice. She...
It's got to be some sort of... I do that in Big Bear twice a year. Yeah.
It's like... I think it's a defensive mechanism. Your bodies. Huh? What? I think it's poison.
We're talking about psilocybin? I think so. Sorry. I started thinking about a bunch of stuff. What's up?
Yep. She could hear the screaming of women being forced fed all over the prison. And when they
came for her, she grabbed a heavy... I just ate. That's the move. I just did it. I ate. I'm stuffed.
Thank you. She grabbed a heavy jug, a ceramic jug and held it overhead and threatened to hit
them with it if they tried to force-feed her. So the doctors left. Pretty easy. Two days later,
she and Ms. Lawrence were released on medical grounds. Ms. Lawrence had been force-fed twice a
day for more than 10 days and was released in a state of complete collapse. Emeline and Ms...
Wait. She's... I mean, because it's obviously force-feeding. It's not the way you're supposed
to ingest nutrients, but it's having an ill effect like she's... Yeah, it's fucking them up. Yeah,
completely. Great plan again. Emeline and Ms.... Pethwick Lawrence were emaciated. Their skin
was yellow and dark circles were under their eyes. After a few days in a nursing home,
they were well enough to leave. Emeline went to Paris to see Christabel. Back in London,
a third consolation bill failed to pass. Can I just say that this story really
makes our crazy ride on the train today not seem so harrowing?
I'm kind of thinking back to the beginning when we were talking about it. And our attitude today,
I'm like, oh, this is going to take forever. Has anything ever been worse? I mean, imagine,
we had to sit on a train for five hours. If they'd force fed me a sausage roll, veggie one.
Good job, too. Thank you. Aw. He's chewing.
Emeline issued a declaration after the consolation bill failed to pass. It was printed in leaflets
and in newspapers. It said, the government had been warned and now would reap the harvest of
their unstatesmanlike folly. You are right that whoever is the rider is like pretty. I mean,
I don't know if it's her or Christabel, but whoever's right in the shit. Winter is coming.
What does that mean? What the fuck does that mean? It's so winter is coming. What is she saying?
We're winning, aren't we? I don't know. Very cryptic. I don't like it.
Well, all over the UK, suffrage just understood the message. Women
disfigured historic buildings with tar and acid. Roads were barricaded.
Galleries and monuments were burned and damaged. Women learned when parliament members' homes
were empty and tried to burn them down. And by the way, that is so smart as well.
Like, you're not just going out there just like burning down the houses. You're like waiting
until they're gone and then it's just property damage. Windows of MP's homes were smashed
at golf courses where wealthy politicians played. Women burned votes for women into the turf.
That is how you get the elites. More sand traps. How am I supposed to butt?
Oh, no. I'm right in the middle of that. Oh.
A woman confronted Prime Minister Asquith on a golf course. But the newspapers
asked the WSPU not to interfere with a game that helped weary politicians think clearly.
Dave, I'm going to need a bucket to throw up him.
Wow. The fucking balls. It's almost like the press isn't great.
Yeah. Thank God it's changed.
But Mr. and Mrs. Pethwick Lawrence were horrified by this sudden, quote,
senseless destruction of property. They felt the WSPU had public sympathy after the force
feedings, but we're throwing it all away. And they left the group. Others followed them.
The WSPU published a new paper called Suffragette. Annaline called a meeting and said, quote,
there is something that governments care more for than human life. And that is the
security of property. And it is through property that we shall strike the enemy,
be militant each and your own way. And my last word is to the government,
incite this meeting to rebellion. And more attacks occurred.
Post offices became a favorite target. Chemicals were poured into letter boxes and set on fire.
Oh, and this time too, it's like, oh.
There were many arrests. Such an impactful move.
Oh, yeah. Prime Minister Asquith took a trip to Dublin where he was expecting to be cheered
and honored. I like the setup, Dave. Hit us with it.
Irish suffragists followed him everywhere and heckled and yelled at him, which he's like,
I missed the English ones.
Irish journal, quote, it transpires that during the process of the procession,
a hatchet was thrown at the carriage in which Mr.
and Mrs. Asquith and a Mr. Redmond were seated. Later it was noticed that Mr. Redmond had a cut
on the ear from which blood was flowing. Wow. Well, that's my favorite suffragist.
Yeah, I mean, yeah. She's anonymous. Asquith doesn't go to Ireland a lot anymore.
Yeah. After Redmond's ear got hatcheted in a carriage. That's why they call him Redmond.
The next night, the Prime Minister was to speak in the theater royal.
The journal, quote, a lighted chair, which apparently had been soaked in oil,
was hurled into the orchestra from one of the boxes.
They're marinating chairs now.
I just want to see a flaming chair, flaming chair.
Great. No notes.
Seeing that the curtain of a box was on fire, the audience was somewhat alarmed.
But you also want to hear how it ends.
But calm was restored when the theater attendance extinguished the flames.
Yeah, that's time to feel comfortable again.
Chairs out. Okay. That's fine. Sorry.
I'm sure that'll be the last flaming chair. There it is.
Hey, you can't do that again.
So Ireland's weird.
Sylvia and, oh God, Adele, I just cut off, but they left the WSPU after
Christabel gave them an ultimatum to stop with their side helping of poor activists.
So they were helping the poor on the side and remember the original thing.
So they were gone from the WSPU.
Emily and Christabel still thought wealthy educated women would do best with the vote.
Christabel, quote, working women are of no value to us.
It's tough. It's tough.
It's weird that there's classes in England, right?
Yeah.
Is this the first time you guys have heard about this?
Yeah.
They are the weakest of their sex.
What?
How can it be otherwise when their lies are so hard and their education so meager?
Oh my God, if anything, that's why.
We want picked women the very strongest and most intelligent.
Anyway, that's one of our heroes.
I know. Yeah, it's hard.
Yeah, it's hard.
In late 1912, Sir Edward Gray included women in a bill that was to extend the vote to more men.
So he, like, pork barreled in, like, more men will get to vote, and women.
And everyone's like, wait a minute.
Read back the last bit.
So they were like, what did you say at the end?
And it sounds like you mispronounced men again. You keep outling a word at the top.
And I just love that they were putting forth a bill to give more votes to men.
Yeah, more votes.
While all this is going on, they're like, oh, I have an idea.
What about more votes for men?
Ladies, ladies, we have heard you.
We hear your cries. More men convert.
A chair.
Why is that chair on fire? Oh, no, a fiery ottoman.
I think they're going to do the den.
So when this bill was moving forward, Emily and X called the truce again
until the bill was heard on January 13th.
And at that time, the bill was defeated and the attacks began again.
Okay.
Telegraph and telephone wires were cut.
They severed communication between London and Glasgow.
Well, the case that and we know that's a journey.
The case that held the crown jewels was cracked open.
Oh, dear.
The residents of the Archbishop of Canterbury was invaded and palace windows were smashed.
That's the sound from the palace.
Everyone's fainted.
That's just the normal sound from the palace.
Christabel wrote, quote, if men use explosives and bombs for their own purposes,
they call it war.
Why should a woman not make use of the same weapons as men?
Well, that's the testicles.
That's why a home being built for David Lloyd George was bombed.
On April 2nd, Emily was arrested under the malicious damage to property act for having
canceled and procured someone else to do the bombing.
If she was found guilty, Emily told the court, quote, I tell you quite honestly and frankly,
I shall not submit to it.
I shall, the moment I leave this court, if I am sent to prison,
I shall quite deliberately refuse to eat food.
I shall join the women who are already in the Holloway on the hunger strike.
I shall come out of prison dead or alive at the earliest possible moment.
And once out again, I, as soon as I am physically fit, I shall enter into this fight again.
Yeah, she's a little bit of a badass.
Yeah, she was given a three year sentence.
Once the sentence got out, more violence occurred.
Unoccupied country houses were set on fire.
That one I didn't really get.
Well, I mean, you know, it's your summer home.
The grandstand on air race course was burned to the ground.
A bomb was set off in Oxtet Station, London, blowing out walls.
Empty railroad carriages were blown up and Emilyne began a hunger strike.
The government was afraid to force feed her because it could lead even more violence.
So they created a new law just for suffragettes.
It was called the Cat and Mouse Act.
It said when the prison doctor certified a hunger striker was in danger of dying,
she would be given a license slash ticket of leave and released.
So once healthy, she was expected to return to the prison at a date specified.
This is, let me guess how many times they tried this one time.
What like while out the woman was under surveillance and couldn't leave her home.
Okay, and she's expected to just eat naturally now that she's being surveilled.
Yeah. Well, yeah, well, they did. I mean, they got out there like, I'm out, I'll eat,
but they're not going to go back to prison. Right. Okay. Yeah, right.
So after 10 days, Emilyne was released with heart irregularities
in pain and having lost two stone or 28 pounds for other places.
She ripped up. By the way, I love how England is dug its heels in on that one.
Yeah, it's sticking with the stone, sticking with the stone. It's a little stone.
It's like you guys can make fun of us for a lot of shit, but that one's I think 14
pounds is a rock. Okay. So personally, Stone's ended nine stops.
How much do you lose? And how many twigs tall are you? Oh, I'm seven.
All right. He's a seven twigger and he's 30 stone. Big boy, big boy.
So when she was given this return ticket in the jail, she just ripped it up in front of
the governor and said, quote, I have no intention of obeying this infamous law.
You released me knowing perfectly well that I shall never voluntarily
really return to any of your prisons. Cops rated the WSPU headquarters and
arrested the office workers, even though they had never done anything.
On November 12th, sorry, November 1912, Emily Davidson went to Aberdeen Station
with a riding whip to attack Lloyd George.
What? Yes. Yes. But she mistook him for a Baptist minister. Oh boy.
And by the way, by the way, what you expect to hear from a guy getting hit with a riding whip
is you've got the wrong guy. So it's only like, yeah, right, bitch. Yeah, bitch. Yeah.
You like that? All right, bear pony. Huh? I'm sorry. What is that across?
Do my she hit him twice in the face. Nice. Yeah, take that fishy.
And then she had a station station official who tried to stop her and then a porter.
She was given 10 days in jail and went on her seventh hunger strike and was force fed for
the 49th time. Wow. Isn't it kind of cool that just straight up torture was happening in your
country for votes? They seem proud. Yeah.
Yeah, it's a little. Yeah, but that's for the safety of our whole. Yeah, you're a mess.
It's that's, I mean, if you ever seen Bin Laden's limo driver. Yeah.
Yeah, he's really there. It's different. It's different because this is about Guantanamo based
about freedom. That's right. So that's right. You're not understanding. Yeah, you guys don't
really get it. And by the way, Obama's going to close it. He said he would get over it. He said
he would. It's in the works. I trust him. He's never, he's never, he's never not done anything
he said he was going to do. Yeah. Change. Oh, bye. Change. Oh, fascism. Change. Trump. So
Emily Davidson was released after four days. A few months later, she went to Epsom to attend
the Derby or Derby, as you call it. As the horses passed the final turn, she went under the rail,
ran in front of a horse and was knocked down. Oh, shit. The horse did a somersault over its
jockey. Not on purpose. No. No, no. They have old footage and the horse goes, whee. And now for a
round off. He dragged the jockey a few yards. Which for a jockey is further.
How many twigs is that? Emily died four days later. Wow. Many years later, a documentary crew
looked at the photos and she appears to be trying to attach a scarf to the horse's bridle. She's
trying to put a message. Just a bad. Sure. Call. It's tough. Emily tried to go to the funeral,
but was arrested for leaving her house. The funeral procession was a mile long. Back in jail,
Emily went on a hunger and thirst strike. Oh, dear. Which is incredibly painful. Yeah. I mean,
that can't go on for long. No, she was released after three days. Yeah. She alluded to cops,
surveillance, and made her way to a liberal meeting, but was arrested before she could get to the
platform. WSPU members fought the cops for half an hour to try to keep her from being arrested.
So that's where she's got the bodyguard, right? They're there. Yeah. Yeah. Right. So they're
fighting. Right. The jiu-jitsu. Yes. There's some jiu-jitsu happening at that point. I mean,
that is just and how popular what like jiu-jitsu probably wasn't that well known in this like
class of the male elite, right? Yeah. No, I don't think the men were like, well, is the jiu-jitsu
area? Yeah. The second you grab them by the collar, they're like, oh, I've just had that
pressed. And I'm flying around. I'm flying over a little woman's head. It's so great that the
women are finally tossing the men around. Yes. So she decided to resist prison. Okay. Different.
So she wouldn't get out of the cab. The cab? She wouldn't undress and put on prison clothes.
She wouldn't do anything. Quote, I shall not go to bed. Not once while I'm kept here. I am weary
of this brutal game and I intend to end it. She just lay on the floor and took no food or water.
She wouldn't even allow the doctor to feel her pulse. By the third day, Emily could see how
bad she looked from the faces of the governor and doctor when they came to her cell, but they
still didn't release her. So she started walking around the cell, staggering up and down until
she collapsed. Quote, at four in the afternoon, they found me gasping and half unconscious.
And then they released her. She went to the US and returned a month later. And as she was
returning, they arrested her for a fifth time. This time, the boat was anchored two miles out
and they went out and got her. They took her to prison in Exeter, a prison official there
told her they just wanted to keep her from going to a big party that was being held to celebrate
her return. Jesus, that's it? Yeah. Cool. When suffrage has heard she'd been arrested,
a huge fire broke out in the timber yards at Richmond Walk, Devon Park. What caused them
naturally? Did they not clean the floor of the forest properly? They didn't rake the forest.
Tied to a railing were two messages to the government. One was, quote, a reply to the
torture of Missed Pinkhurst and her cowardly arrested plimoth. Fires then destroyed unoccupied
houses in Bristol and Scotland and partly destroyed St. Anne's Church in Liverpool.
Whatever, whatever turns your crank. After a four-day hunger, thirst, everything strike,
Amalene was released and then arrested again December 1913. So that's the cat and mask game.
They release you, they arrest you, they release you, they arrest you. You just don't know when
you're going to be in prison or not. Again, no food, no drink. And now she added a sleep strike.
Jesus Christ. After several days she was released. There was an opera. Sleep is a hard thing to take
a strike on because eventually you are like. Yeah. There was an opera at Comet Garden. The
king, queen and entire court were there. The WSPU got a box directly opposite the royal box.
Stubhub, how do you get that? Shirley. Three women, while they're at this point,
even rich people are like, give them the vote. Yeah. Yeah. So a lot of people are helping out.
So three women were in it, dressed in gowns. They locked and barricaded the door. At the
end of the first act, one stood up with a megaphone and addressed the king. By the way,
if you're at the show, you're like, boy, this guy's a genius. What did he write?
I love the direction. This is crazy. Look at this. Gorilla theater.
She told them women were fighting for liberty and being tortured and done to death in the
name of the king. Quote, at this very hour, the leader of these fighters in the army of liberty
was being held in prison and tortured by the king's authority. The audience completely lost
their shit and panicked. But the floor, the door was finally broken down and the women were removed.
Then 40 women who were sitting in an upper gallery through suffrage literature down on the heads of
the audience below. Oh, yes. I mean, it's raining. It's raining words. I got a real fight club vibe
going on now. Emily was announced she would lead a deputation to Buckingham Palace. That's right.
My home. She wrote to the king asking him to give them an audience, something that he had
had even been done for Irish Catholics by King George III. Right. So if you did it for the Irish
Catholic, surely, I mean, good Lord, there's no bottom. Emily was next arrested in Glasgow during
a speech. She snuck in. There was it was just like a big. So this is not necessarily a speech.
What's a big? It's a big suffragist meeting rally going on in Glasgow. It's a huge one. So she
she sneaks out. The bodyguards would do stuff like have other people dress up like her. And
then the cops would run out and tackle her. And then they realized it wasn't her and she'd gotten
away. Wow. Like the Thomas Crown affair. So they might have done that here. Yeah. So she went there
and then she got to the platform and she stood up and started talking. And then the Scott and the
our detectives started approaching the platform. These good detective work, by the way, really sniff
this one out early. And then they tried to pull on the platform to pull it down, but they had placed
barbed wire hidden in bouquets. And the fucking force you're grabbing that with. Oh my God. That
is all the rage. We finally got her. Yeah. And then her then the bodyguards fought the cops.
Great. So then the entire crowd started to fight the cops. So there there's just a fucking massive
brawl going on while she speaks. Well, it's also easy to push people and fight them when your hands
are bleeding like you have the stigmata. That's real simple when you're like, use your feet.
Do kicking machine. Come on, Gene. So it was a very long battle that went on, but they were
finally able to get their hands on Emily. It later would become known as the Battle of Glasgow.
I thought you're going to say it would be called the half off sale.
I'm sure someday they'll make that into sure. Yeah. Yeah, right. I'm sure you could go to Glasgow
and they'd be like, Oh, the sale battle Glasgow sale. Yeah, half off all these dishes.
So Emily's back in jail. The home secretary's house was attacked. 18 windows were broken.
A suffragette named by the way, that's fuck you if you have 18 windows.
Unless it's a greenhouse.
A suffragette named Mary Richardson smuggled a meat chopper. Pardon.
What is it like a deli slicer? Yeah, yeah. Hatchet into the National Gallery and
slashed the canvas of the Rokeby Venus. So she went and fucking messed up a classic painting.
Nearly all galleries and museums then close to the public. Good. Which really hurt the tourist
industry, which really upset people. And now people are screaming at the government to do something.
Emily marched to give their resolution to the king on May 21st, and they were met by several
thousand cops. The violence was the exact same as Black Friday. They were beatings,
it just went on for a while. And after it was over, Emily was back in Holloway on a hunger
strike and again released. Now after the act of doing this horrible thing of trying to get a
piece of paper with words on it to the king, the nerve, the press turned against the suffragetts.
Western male headline quote, suffragette attack on Buckingham Palace, Dublin Daily Express,
madness and crime. The Daily Mirror headline quote, biting the police.
By the way, let's get a second draft on that.
It did not slow them down from the Manchester Courier and Lancashire general advertiser,
get your fucking name down a little bit. Quote, an attempt to blow up the pipe which
carries water from a lock chain to Glasgow is reported. A watchman doing his rounds noticed
two heaps of earth and on these being examined two bombs with half burnt fuses were discovered.
If an explosion had wrecked the pipe, half of the water supply of Glasgow would have been cut off.
Wow. There was a note quote, a protest against the magistrate's decision not to inquire into
the arrest of Miss Pankhurst. Emily is now one of the most powerful women in England. Right.
But on the 20th of July 1914, World War One broke out and Emily quit fighting for the women's vote.
But she just stopped. Okay. Both Emily and Cristobal declared an end to their suffrage war.
No fighting the government when the government is fighting the Germans or the Hungarians or
it was a fucked up war. Because out of respect. She's patriotic. Wow. Emily is patriotic and so
is Cristobal. She switched her message from votes for women to women have a patriotic duty
to forget about the vote temporarily and support the war. Okay. That's not nearly as catchy.
And then she worked with her nemesis David Lloyd George. Oh shit. They had secret meetings
and he asked her to organize a demonstration demanding that he allow women to work.
Okay. And so with government funding. No. Emily backed and led a huge demonstration
where women demanded to be allowed to work in factories. Oh my God. What kind of goal?
I mean. In December 18 December 1918 an act was passed giving the vote to women over 30 who own
certain property. Okay. Great. Cristobal was now by the way the whole thing with her leading everybody
that worked. Right. So everybody thought right. Of course. Cristobal. Now this is when Emma Goldman
was running around saying I want you to fuck everybody else and free sex and stuff. Also great
policy. Uh. Cristobal was very against that. She was now convinced people especially men were
impure and started giving pro chastity lectures. She then became a second Adventist preacher.
Wow. That's a shame. And wrote religious books. Oh boy. Here we go.
How long has it been? Absolutely not. None of that was a word. Well he's looking to bang.
Uh. Emily moved to Canada and she became a citizen and started speaking out against communism
and called to stop non white immigration.
And then her new cause became stopping the spread of venereal disease. This is I mean this is
some really weird sequel. Yeah this is like when JJ Abrams started writing shit. It feels
like we've lost the plot a touch but it's no longer okay. After a while she stopped going
out and speaking and moved back to England and in 1927 at 69 she stood as a candidate for parliament
as a conservative. Oh my god. We had such a good run. Sylvia wrote a public letter saying her mother
had turned her back on everything she used to believe in. By Christmas Emily had become too ill
to campaign and withdrew. Adele married a union man moved to Australia and fought for workers wages
and living conditions for years. Sylvia became a socialist and warned of fascism when everyone
else was embracing Hitler and Mussolini. Well history proved her wrong. Yep yeah Mussolini was
great. Yeah he was great. He's got the best nod of any leader ever.
Chris Abel was eventually made Dame Commander of the British Empire. Wow. Well you know you
know you you know you walked away from your fives if that happened. Yeah right right yeah.
On March of 1928 the Equal Suffrage Bill Act gave full voting rights to all women over 21
and Emmeline died on June 14th 1928. So that was not a great ending for her. No well it's the
ending we all have but. But it's not like the thing that they said from the beginning that we
want rich women to have the vote and not poor women. It's not that distant from that opinion right.
No no. It's not a huge when you get when you really look at it that's not a huge leap. I mean
either either you're for all people having rights and equality or you're not. Well and the truth is
that like what sucks is when someone is in activism for a long time and then gets power through
activism and is then has a higher profile and is then is easier to bribe. I mean the conservators
fucking loved her in Canada. Well because you've got such a great track record so it's like what
you're saying is trusted. Yeah. The main sources were Emmeline Pankhurst my own story and Emmeline
and her daughter's the Pankhurst suffragettes by Julian Messner. I mean noble noble or iris noble
to two people. Sure sure yeah yeah feel good. Yeah feel good. Oh and I want to thank Ann
Momonee for doing the research. Yeah that was a bummer when I got to the end of that. Yeah
I was really can some boys can some boys get.
I've always wanted to tell this story for two reasons. First of all just way beyond what
the American women went like we have what was known as the night of terror and then it sort of
changed us shit. But you guys are like let's just do terror for a few years. But but the battle
they they put up in the fighting and how fucking crazy violent it got. And and also they that's
a roadmap. Yeah for say there was something going on today that no one was addressing. Imagine
it. There's a roadmap and it turns out you know she made a really good point. I don't know if I
took the quote I don't know but they the high ups really like their property and well you didn't
need to give us the quote. They're super into the property. It is. But they you know no one
really pays attention to you if you walk around in the street and don't do anything.
When has that ever actually gotten anything. Well unless they're killing you by the hundreds
and then they're like all right there's so many bodies. And especially now because it feels like
now is the peak of how elite you know the elite class or politicians know that they can just not
respond to you online. They can just send you to voicemail when you call. You can't get into their
offices. Yeah they have security around them. We literally I don't know what it's like for you
guys but we literally can't go visit our politicians. Well it's like imagine if Donald Trump was
walking around the streets like it is what happens with Boris Johnson. It's like it's fucking great
because it's like he deserves this shit but we're at the point now where it's just like
it's fucking over you know. And truly what they tell you and what your media tells you is always
that you know there are ways to handle this. There are routes you can handle this with that
shit. Proper routes. That doesn't get anything done. And it's bullshit because they don't pay
attention. They don't fucking listen. And like in this story you you have to fucking rattle the
goddamn cage before anyone you got to make them scared. The reason and you're you're at the peak
now of them not being scared. I mean if there was like not to say anything against the idea of
women's right to vote or for any you know any group that is disenfranchised or anything like that
but there's one cause right now that without that cause succeeding all the other causes
don't matter are not causes. I don't know what I don't know what sir. I don't know what was just
I like I have no fucking idea. I've got this. Me it's not like that. I was gonna be different
2024 don't you that go out begging a bloody shag would you train.
Me. No I don't think so. Sir. Sir. Who was the politician you hate. Without talking too much.
What the fuck did you just say. Slow down. Stop who. Oh yeah. We don't have to worry about
Kanye. By the way I've never regretted having someone repeat something more to show.
You got. Yeah. We will be a lot more worried about the rock. Yeah. The rock versus kid rock
election in America in 2024. We like to call him the stone. Yeah I do think I mean as you know
and I'm sure why that story is so important to you is very important today. Yeah because you have
to you just are being we are being ignored stuff where 75% and the media is not on your fucking
side the media is so slanted our media in America is so fucked and ruined and you know you're not
going to get in America at least the actual facts on the news from watching TV or even reading the
paper you know it's just it's fucked you look at what's going on in Hong Kong and France like
like. What's going on. No.
And then the yellow vest they have this whole cause but they're like Dave yellow vest.
Yeah because Macron is like it's it's again the elite stuff. No I don't think so.
We'll talk after. Okay. We'll go get a bite to eat. We'll go force feed or something like that.
Thank you so much for coming out Manchester.
I appreciate it entirely. If you got a VIP ticket stick around. Thank you guys. Appreciate it.