The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 421 - Doc Ames (Live w/ Bill Corbett)

Episode Date: March 18, 2020

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds are joined by guest Bill Corbett to examine Minneapolis Mayor Doc AmesSource - Dirty Doc Ames and the Scandal that Shook MinneapolisTour Dates - ALL DATES PO...STPONED DUE TO CORONA VIRUSRedbubble Merch

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Starting point is 00:00:43 obviously completely reasonable on more than one level. I want to say this I want to say right now our government is not doing anything and I'll give you an example in France Macron has suspended the payment of taxes he has suspended the payment of rent he has suspended the payment for water gas and electricity bills America is doing nothing so you need to call you need to call everybody in your government and scream at them and you need to call the media and you need to call everybody you just need to call everybody and start screaming and let them know you're mad everybody needs to let them know you're
Starting point is 00:01:20 mad and you're scared okay this isn't mess around time this is it this is game over stuff this is like literally we cannot let everything collapse that's where we are so on that note I'm gonna give a nice light episode I haven't picked it yet but I'll pick one that's a little more light than others okay I'm hanging there you're listening to the dollop this is a bilingual American history podcast each week I Dave Anthony read a story from American history to me amigo Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about and we
Starting point is 00:02:30 actually are now a bilingual history podcast because starting on the 18th the dollop will be in Spanish I got a couple of hosts couple of Mexican gentlemen who are very funny and they are gonna start doing our scripts and so it will be called L dollop you speak Spanish now that cool and and yeah 18th will be the first one Jose Antonio Badia and Eduardo Espinoza they are really goddamn funny and it's gonna be called L dollop yeah so that'll be fun so let's bring out our guest ladies and gentlemen to Bill Corbett you know from riff tracks there he is doing something weird with his
Starting point is 00:03:26 face oh my god he's got you kiss get himself the corona I can't stop Hola el dollop oh yeah oh see damn you know he got a Tito thank you for getting that right so will they translate that back into English now your guys yeah then we're gonna have well in England we'll have two guys with an accent translated back yeah they're both me though well then riff tracks would be the thing right riff tracks yep yeah with my old mystery science theater pals Mike Nelson and Kevin Murphy is yeah that's okay as long as you don't cheer more for them than you did for me I'm cool with it I agree 100% agree you're
Starting point is 00:04:15 blocking me right now on Twitter aren't you there Corbett out the people I really don't like I'm you January 18th 1842 yeah year of our Lord Jesus Christ good dude great dude yeah one dude one person out of like a thousand that's him he's here tonight we give him shitties stand up and stand up and float over the audience please Albert Alonso was born in garden prairie Illinois sorry sounds clown murdery already I didn't look it up because I didn't believe that was a place but it is dark garden prairie just garden prairie you put dark you did
Starting point is 00:05:20 that thing where you make everything dark in your head that's true dark Gary you said murder prairie no I did not I'm sorry all I hear are screams oh man he had six brothers and one sister his father had been a doctor and deputy Illinois secretary of state private secretary to the governor and in the House of Representatives Jesus and then after that they got tired Illinois and the family moved to Minneapolis and it's called dark Minneapolis never heard that before yeah yeah it's like the bizarro world in superman that's right dark Minneapolis the one cities no hockey team
Starting point is 00:06:10 Alfred his father worked as a doctor became a highly regarded and wealthy member of the Minneapolis community so young Albert was from a connected family he went to Minneapolis high school and got a medical degree from a college in 1862 he went and fought in the US Dakota war maybe my favorite yeah a lot of good stuff was a lot of good stuff a lot of really good we will tear down that wall eventually I love I love a massacre the Civil War and then he married Sarah Strout after the total after the war he returned to Minneapolis and he won a house seat in the minute Minnesota so you're gonna say you want a house
Starting point is 00:06:54 the game shows back then yeah yeah it's Oprah so he worked with his dad and they both doctors in the medical practice but then his dad died in this is 1974 but that is not right son I can't do this any longer that's your story right there hey I'm 180 look I'm done I am spent exhausting so Albert got the nickname doc aims and doc joined several fraternal organizations and he made a lot of connections in the city and he ran for and won a city council seat as a Republican in April of 1875 okay the next year he ran for mayor but he lost to a fellow Republican so he switched to the Democratic Party that's fine you
Starting point is 00:07:54 can do that now yeah that's so easy to do it's like shape-shifting right it's nothing what are you guys doing over there and then he got their nomination for mayor his supporters were all laborers they were known as the dinner pale brigade sure right yep sure very I don't know what it strikes in you but carried a big bucket of chicken pot pie 24 seven well they were called that because they carried their meals to work each day in pales very literal yeah but wouldn't they be wouldn't that be like lunch yeah or they just had like pale they're like we've got three square pales I guess it would be lunch unless
Starting point is 00:08:42 they're working at night yeah so they're the lunch pale whatever brigade doesn't sound as good does it no but it makes way more sense neither sounds good just because I heard it gets the pale that we're having a problem with the whole thing it's like an open thing yeah gross it in yeah around that time to eat dinner out of it doc called establishment Democrats old fogies whoa we can go back to that because that still works 150 years later the Republican establishment and the old fogies are aligned against me so the the old fogies were shocked by doc's popularity and called him a quote new fangled
Starting point is 00:09:39 Democrat you knew fangirl they were all prospectors such an old foggy come back classic old foggy stuff Republicans thought very little little of the dinner pale brigade because they're carrying lunch you can't respect this group learn the names of your meals for Christ's sake we go home and have breakfast after a day of work now you fools a Republican newspaper called them quote black legs pimps loafers and bummers generally it's hard to be around man because your legs are black it's fucked up it's like I'm having a bad time here man that's not the meal you have in your pale dude it makes no
Starting point is 00:10:38 frickin sense man I'm gonna touch my face and get out of here so doc won the election in April of 1876 okay now mayor mayor doc he promised to crack down on dens of sin sure fuck that guy yeah I want someone who's gonna double them right we don't have enough dens of sin I went a dent of sin based economy but doc was often in the dens of sin he doing research doing my homework finding out what makes him tick what are drugs like what's paying for sex feel like I'm experimenting for us what's deep in it is a pain for sex feel like again yeah what does it feel like to have a habitual problem paying for sex it
Starting point is 00:11:35 is a very long-range study okay I'm going in deep I've been doing this for over 10 years when the bust happens it's going to be frickin epic so he's often in gambling houses saloons and brothels the tribune called doc a quote dissipated an adelpated young man I ain't adelpated you're adelpated excuse me a moment that the thing that bumper was in Bambi edit right right yes that's right that's right that's right so the paper told Democrats to open their eyes and vote for the Republican in the next election and it worked after a year he was out as mayor so in 1878 he ran for the state Senate and lost okay and then he
Starting point is 00:12:48 ran for the Hennepin County corner that he ran for corner used you could just do that just like it used to be very common like oh you've got it you don't make posters you're you're the one I want to be your corner oh yeah back in the day you would run for corner you didn't have to have any experience as a corner yeah great so yeah dumping dead bodies at your feet like I don't know like put it over there I don't know that's a lot of dead guys I don't know there were dead guys involved in this job I didn't know what a corner was I thought I did do flowers I thought it took place in a brothel honestly I had a great life as a
Starting point is 00:13:31 denizen guy anyway he lost that election what's worse dodge that we're losing yeah I'm not even good enough to be the corner that is tough honey he ran for mayor again in 1882 and one okay wow yeah revolving door yeah this time the tribune charged doc with election fraud and revealed inflated numbers in areas with many voters where there were actually no houses he's cleaning up in these counties that don't exist whatever what returns he's having and what's the nobody vote who's controlling that but nothing came of it once mayor doc immediately ran for US Congress and lost okay interesting rollercoaster well
Starting point is 00:14:26 it's a rollercoaster that keeps just going like this like okay is any easy so the state is Mary focused on road repair sewage and drinking water funding and maintaining the fire department and dealing with the plague of homeless dogs was people fine yeah the dogs wouldn't be great to go back to a time when dogs was our biggest problem there's too many dogs they keep stealing those big link sausages hanging from my window they robbed stereotypes the other day I used to be able to hang my sausages in this town snossages what snossages not just a solution was to hire a dog killer I thought you did good good good
Starting point is 00:15:17 good good good good they're homeless let's fucking kill that's if you're the runner up the corner that's the job you get now my dog killer I want to be your dog killer that's like an Iggy pop song I'm gonna put this right near but voters became worried about an increase in crime and doc lost in 1884 especially dog murder yeah honestly he ran for mayor again in 1886 Jesus Christ the current mayor was a flower a magnate was a flower flower magnate hello I'm Daisy I'm in charge now this is Suntown eat all right so he's a rich flower guy uh-huh who made policies I love to hang out in dens of sin I'm a dirty flower you don't want to
Starting point is 00:16:14 know what's happening underneath this soil I don't let's just say I'm rooting myself set your statement are you just happy to see me what did you like to know I dirty dirty flowers I'm sorry you should be sorry I'm not sorry for anything refollow reblock mute that's the soft block when you block someone David following you any I actually love that soft box the best it's my fave these are all great they're all great so he runs for mayor again in 1886 current guy's a rich flower owner what that's even weirder than what I was saying what do you do I own all of these it's made me millions that's all I'll say so he was
Starting point is 00:17:17 only making policies dealt the wealthy and Doc want okay he organized he then organized the police force like a military good they got crisp sharp uniforms and had to do precise drills he gave the military ranks the chief of police was now a colonel okay sure his assistants were lieutenant colonel and a major so then the state legislature took control of the police force okay like hey things get a little weird down there yeah just like our government does now yeah huh the title of police chief was changed to superintendent of police to make it sound less tyrannical doesn't do it for me so yeah he was a chief yeah
Starting point is 00:18:05 just make him chief yeah he's superintendent admiral of police that's I'm stupid too please please pope I just pie us but I'm not shitting it's sacrilegious doctor cop your doctor cop that's pretty cool yeah you're the doctor cop sounds like a 70s show I would really good doctor cop doctor cop I can't he's a cop and a doctor it's pretty straightforward yeah really haven't thought much beyond that and there's a girl he likes it's this one look at that yet doctor she's in the credits yeah yeah and he's got a kid or maybe now he probably doesn't doctor cop doctor cop junior doctor cop junior maybe now he
Starting point is 00:18:49 does have a kid he did have a kid but he didn't think it was his but it was on an old new doctor cop anyway we got a doctor cop junior we got our pitch off to Hollywood next week it'll be great I don't say that doesn't sell cannot cannot lose thank you Dave doctor cop so this city was again open for vice gambling houses saloons brothels they were increasing tourism and then doc was like this is going so well I'm gonna run for governor okay all right here we go days before the election 10,000 Republicans marched through Minneapolis carrying Roman candles torches lanterns anti-dinner pale brigade banners Jesus
Starting point is 00:19:36 Christ yeah anti-dinner but she's like plates you know you can't get your dinner now it's inaccessible we'll starve not very bright so they marched through and then they got to the place where all the Democratic saloons were and there were doc supporters and they were very angry because the Republican parade was much bigger than the Democratic parade two nights before sure so the regular beef before we're still angry about your parade you don't come in here and up my parade bitch well it feels like we just did asshole this is the story of the parade wars that's right they attack them with clubs and
Starting point is 00:20:27 stones stay in line though everybody stay in line when we do it do it right like we rehearsed from the top keep playing hold that clock straight color guard why are you stopping I know she just got knocked out by a rock keep playing keep going police joined in attacking with the Democrats 50 marchers and injured several seriously 18 or arrested all Republicans okay but the riot was a disaster for doc news spread across the state he had been a shoe in for governor but then lost by a single percentage point he ran for governor again good here we go shocking where does he find the time yeah guess what I'm
Starting point is 00:21:13 thinking of doing we know asshole yeah oh let me guess this time he did not get the Democratic nomination he tried to land the position of park commissioner but did not get it wow that is quite a downgrade yeah we don't want you for governor can I run the park no I'll kill all the dogs there no it maybe take a couple years off let me kill your dog no you're not killing Mike no you're not doing anything do you remember that you're a doctor and you could make a living that way I mean just consider it I wish I had a fallback plan you're a doctor I know I think I'm gonna run for town squirrel
Starting point is 00:22:01 what baby so his main 1889 doc was not feeling well he was run down he was thin he was exhausted so he took a four-month trip to Europe came ran for prime minister of Europe took over Czechoslovakia and then it came back to Minnesota he was 40 pounds heavier a rosy cheek energized when he got there Minneapolis threw a parade in his honor oh boy you're fat again I've become English now thousands packed into a ballpark to hear him speak I ate so much food boy did I eat they have so many different sausages over there they love potatoes they know how to make potatoes bad for you so do we now we do so he
Starting point is 00:23:01 separated from his wife in 1890 according to Harold zinc quote doc had descended from mere good friendship to heavy drinking and loose living okay thought he was already kind of there yeah he kind of always was there doc moved into a room in the medical practice he shared with William I don't know if he moved in their day so he's living in the same place where he's the medical next to the skeleton that hangs up yeah you mean my only friend now doc's daughter Effie sure who's got time to name him yeah was going to marry roachford who was his partner in the medical practice roachford yeah that's
Starting point is 00:23:50 right yep yep yep if he's gonna be a roachford not exciting our movie name it's not great so doc and roachford are not getting along right now because he's living in the medical offices sure roachford reported doc was guzzling booze and fooling around with unsavory women which are the best kind yeah brought the dentist sin vibe to the office that's right in the middle of October 1981 doc called for a 31 year old named Lenora Chase to come for a medical appointment uh-huh but he was upstairs naked drunk and in bed so I see no problem there I just feels a little lowery when she got there roachford told
Starting point is 00:24:40 her to leave and said he didn't want her coming around anymore because she had been coming around a lot for a lot of medical appointments wait what kind of mixed signal is he sending she refused and then roachford she said he kicked her and she fell down the stairs two days later roachford and doc ended their partnership and roachford was charged with assault and battery doc testified on Lenora's behalf roachford still still naked I assume yes roachford said she had slipped and he tried to help her that always works she slipped Effie testified for her husband when she was asked if it was odd for her father
Starting point is 00:25:23 to see women in the office she said quote it certainly was for him to receive them in his bedroom sure dad's a big old horror yeah so roachford was found guilty and now Effie was no longer speaking to her father okay wow what a fun little turn Sarah as ex-wife went to California and she put her stuff in storage before she did and she told the storage company not to give anything to doc okay so then doc filed a suit against a storage company to get all the property Sarah couldn't afford the court costs and then when the case was settled doc got almost everything and Sarah had no furniture or money or
Starting point is 00:26:07 anything cool yeah I'm starting to think he's not the best guy is that where you're trying to get across oh it's a hero okay okay in July she took doctor court for non-support of wife doc tried to drag the case on as long as possible to avoid paying anything and then on August 1st Sarah died at the age of 50 ah Jesus David I was just getting attached to her as a character yeah I was just like she's gonna keep something's got to give well something gave yeah well not I mean for him yeah not her the Tribune said she suffered from a serious bout of quote
Starting point is 00:26:51 nervous disorganization well that'll kill you absolutely yeah yeah Joe Biden but right before she died when she was in her deathbed she said doc a message asking him to come see her doc was drinking in a saloon when he got the message I love how you get the message I mean a messenger came a messenger came said it was a different time I know it's just great give it to a boy that is yeah it's just it's texting yeah give it to a little kid who would then bite on the coin all right thank you sir all right so author Lincoln Stephen said he quote scribbled across it a sentence incredibly obscene and sent it back what
Starting point is 00:27:45 would he have written back go fuck yourself no if he wouldn't let her dad come to the funeral way to die asshole so just imagining what I would have written yeah yeah so he couldn't go to the funeral so instead he sat in a carriage across the street watching quote with his feet up and a cigar in his mouth wow what a fucking prick wow I'm getting that sense that is unbelievable a cigar feet up who I feel good yeah he's basically like Robert De Niro in the you know the front row of the movie until the funeral moved and then he circled around crossing it and meeting it making all
Starting point is 00:28:41 together a scene which might well close any man's career so he started going in between the crowd in his car what in his car excuse me excuse me excuse me excuse me excuse us excuse us fast the original fast and furious coffin dodge funeral drift so doc and Sarah's 12 year old son John was living with Effie and her husband so doc filed for custody in court good get that kid in his hands right away yeah right well Doc's on a hot streak right now get involved time to imprint make another one mini him he's pinning it all down when it's Sarah's last request that was that John never lived with doc denied so they went to
Starting point is 00:29:51 court and Effie said doc was living with a married woman named Harriet Bates for years and he couldn't take care of John because his quote heart had turned to stone wow I don't know if that's a medically speaking she's a liar to be clear she also said he liked telling dirty stories ah come on they're limericks don't don't don't push your luck Sarah we all like that so doc got custody all right fuck yeah man all right but continuing to be a piece of shit and thriving let's try to be naked as much as possible in here but there is one condition he had to provide a suitable home so on Christmas
Starting point is 00:30:40 night 19 or 1892 doc and Harriet went to South Dakota to the divorce colony and wait what wait what do you mean so if you don't know we did it we did episode about this okay there's a time where you couldn't get divorces but there were certain states out west where they would have a easier divorce laws because they want people to move there so they were literally called divorce it's what we're striving for with abortion so our eventual goal is it's true destroy all families so they got a divorce and the day after Harriet and doc married okay so that's nice that is nice I'm a little worried about John though well I
Starting point is 00:31:25 worried about Harriet too I'm just kind of worried anybody who comes in that guy's orbit is a little fucked but John is not moved in with him because he's still living in the right it seems like a good home though yeah there's lots of stuff yep no dogs no dogs no dogs allow maybe not that sterile environment maybe a dog who knows maybe not for long okay only two dogs maximum and they can't go on the table no but they can lick the instruments because dogs mouths are cleaner than humans that's right medically speaking same with their buttholes that's right that's what I've tasted what it's the only way to know
Starting point is 00:32:07 for sure guys tested or tasted he said tasted I'm not gonna answer that question how about that bill there's a lot of public pressure and I'm not gonna fall under it so after after this in 1898 doc decided it was time to run for mayor again good yeah it's been too long yeah he lost what no he lot he was running on the Democratic side he lost the nomination so were the old fogies still around or they all just I don't know so now so he just he then declared himself the GOP candidate for mayor wait after right after he lost he's like I'm a dem I'm a Republican no he went to a couple meetings of Republicans and
Starting point is 00:33:01 then was like all right I'm all right boys I'll do it nobody asked you to do anything I'm in I'll do it newspapers Republican and Democratic attacked him he responded quote the journal the Tribune every paper that says anything against me is a dirty stinking blackmailer I know him and their peanut headed editors this could not be more Twitter I mean good Lord thread yeah 374 I did the dirty not headed the dirty penny aligners I know the history of some of the editors I'll meet them and I'll beat them and I'll be elected over all of them over all they write in their dirty foul sheets don't believe these
Starting point is 00:33:48 newspapers they're liars thieves and scoundrels nice wow there you go fake news yeah that's a good one yeah you peanut head you do this peanut headed that guy's an idiot his head's like a peanut so tempers groups are Republicans and they saw him as destructive to their cause sure so they had their own candidate run as an independent William Dean and then one day a bandwagon shut up on the streets with signs that said wait a literal bandwagon we're here for who's most popular sorry it took us so long signs on the side that said vote for W.J. Dean prohibition candidate for mayor
Starting point is 00:34:44 and then drum course played as it rolled up and down the streets and then deans people heard about this and they were like that's not our wagon and it turned out saloon keepers were worried about Dean winning and so they hired the bandwagon that's right Dean hates booze so then deans camp got their own wagon and that wagon followed the fake Dean wagon so Dean what's happening right now well we have a propagandist fake wagon so I got my bandwagon to chase that wagon but the second wagon's a legit wagon that first one's a fake news wagon this is the original battle of the bands and the second wagon that followed had
Starting point is 00:35:31 signs that read the wagon ahead is working don't pay attention at bullshit wagon they're lying the wagon ahead is working for Ames or Gray we're not sure who we're just the wagon that we're a neutral wagon nothing happened nothing happened we're going to attack the other wagon so anyway dock one mayor once again fourth term fourth term he's like Muhammad Ali he's like I got one more come back at the tank never never in a row no no no he said there would be changes to the police department quote oh no it's gonna get bigger and nasty it's now an army fuck everybody quote I shall appoint my own police force every man
Starting point is 00:36:23 will have to make an application to me I will pass personally upon every application men would have to be Republicans to become a cop that's still the same ladies and gentlemen ice yeah that is what he's doing yeah yeah that's not a brown shirt force at all as far as cops who had been on the force for years he said there was no reason to keep the old ones on okay doc then appointed his younger brother Fred to be police chief I can't know what's Fred like I can't imagine what's Fred like well imagine I'm picturing a shitty doc yeah I'm rooting for a shitty doc well Fred in his life had been a drugist a
Starting point is 00:37:15 civil engineer treasurer of the Minneapolis Exposition a bank cashier and he'd worked in real estate was he ever coroner though yeah was he ever in contention to be the town's dog killer right no so now he's a cop the head cop hey how do we do this so talking has probably looked at 1200 applications he fight fires right that's what we do pretty much yeah they're looking at 217 available police positions he said he wanted to build a more competent and honest detective squad sure he interviewed a hundred and twenty five applicants three days before he took over almost none have been
Starting point is 00:37:59 police before they were Sloan keepers bartenders private detectives friends of the Republican alderman's dogs dogs cats skeleton from his office officer bones what happened on the scene doc then fired half the police force some got brutal demotions instead like captain swan Walton who was now the janitor in the same station he just been commander wow captain of the toilets that's it you are now yeah that is a hard day to go to work yeah hey you you were my commander before right yeah but listen shit over there yeah sweep that up that's actually it's actually my shit yeah I shit
Starting point is 00:38:51 there purposely for you all right well that's the dynamic we have going now yeah it's like all right well you know there's still the toilet you guys could use it right you should have thought about that when you are a commander well shouldn't a shit so much what I have to clean it up yeah karma Sharma all right all right well I guess I think we're done with that particularly in his inquiry see you later guys okay bye good shit not never mind so the new the new recruits had to buy their own uniforms which cost two hundred dollars yeah it's like a soccer yeah exactly yeah they also had to pay
Starting point is 00:39:44 to get the job sure it's regular stuff regular ground floor cop stuff yeah yeah it's like a fishing license so there were cop interns but then we get five of our friends when we actually start getting paid so when they're five of our friends become cops then we're sheriffs of them and then they get five people to also be cops you see and then we're making money up we're going up you see what I'm saying that's where it's gonna go eventually you're gonna break even eventually oh you have to oh yeah oh no buddy mine is a boat boom game over so anyway the key is that you guys need to really start finding some cops because
Starting point is 00:40:28 otherwise I'll be screwed I'm not taking questions right now but yeah what if I don't want to be a boat I don't think you've been listening to a lot of what I said I really don't heard a lot of it no you know a friend of mine has a boat because of this I don't want to be a boat yeah that's not a thing that anyone's threatening you with I'm just saying no you're a cop right yeah I'm a cop and you gotta buy the bullets from me and the gun from me and then you get your cop starter kit and then after that then you just find some other people who are like-minded who want to be cops and you sell them bullets and guns you see and
Starting point is 00:41:08 the money goes up my buddy has a boat the money goes up do you understand I don't want to be a boat you know I think you're missing the point nobody's threatening that you're gonna be a boat I keep hearing at the end you say the last thing is I'm responding to the thing you're saying that's miss you've been missed try putting boat at the beginning of the sentence see what is something you won't be oh what the fuck that was yeah I'll do this did it another sale kaching yeah yeah by the way if you guys need soap products you can get them through me the dollop bled brand toilet paper now so doc what doc
Starting point is 00:41:53 let officer Nathaniel Wilson King not just stay on the force but he made him a captain and chief of detectives King was a legendary fighter and drunk great perfect put him in charge in that order I don't think so he had been a cop for years he'd been fired and rehired by different mayors okay in 1890 King was on a streetcar and when he called the politician a quote Republican lick splittle lick spittle lick spittle lick spittle yeah lick spit okay it's fucked up it's a fucked up thing they used to do back there yeah that they would call them that are the people with lick spit no it's just a guy that was a guy to
Starting point is 00:42:35 every time it was like no no no no no no that's so good hey it's a spittoon oh yeah my younger ah yeah right in there and go to town like fudge like fudge ah it's nice like fudge he said everybody filed out of the room that's nice oh lucky me you sure your boys don't want to rip of this more for me I'm the head cop you have a boat don't you yeah I am one too what yeah it was a pyramid scheme I got involved in the guy said I was gonna be a cop but then he turned me into a boat for about five years yeah lived as a boat pretty weird but now it looks spit so I'm gonna come back in yeah yeah he's my birthday oh
Starting point is 00:43:32 little more down here too I didn't see that I don't feel great seems to be a side effect on my lifestyle yeah well I'm gonna go find some more spit to drink I should turn on good to meet y'all if you're gonna spit spit in there I'll be back during the rounds it's a little preview of gareth's touring one-man show it'll be going around Broadway stages it's a little lick spittle lick spittle the boat man the boat man yeah how about that yeah what about that open that the mayor so the mayor had after he called him that guy lick splittle the mayor had him resign King then opened a gambling house one night he got into an
Starting point is 00:44:36 argument with one of his dealers who pulled a gun on him sure well that's not cool King then grabbed the dealer's friend and used him as a shield dude sure dude sure the dealer still shot but he was King then punched the dealer in the face from behind his friend what kind of Jackie Chan shit is going on and then the dealer was arrested what another time King had a beef with a chair as a samurai sword this is how fighting was back then another time King had a beef with a political operative and they were both in a saloon the operative was drunk and he rushed to King pulling out a 38
Starting point is 00:45:23 revolver and shooting it twice he missed that's why you don't get drunk and do these yeah King grabbed the operative's wrist and forced the barrel into his face and then into his left eye oh no King back off he gouged and he made out gouged oh that's nasty the dazed operative wiped at the wound while his eye was dangling from the socket oh my god well played sir the gun barrel had been jammed into his eye socket so hard the gun sight was bent I'm sorry I'm really sorry I'm not gonna be able to aim for shit with this I also look at the ground I am I can look everywhere I've got a
Starting point is 00:46:26 periscope look behind you four o'clock like a monocle excuse me hello look at I got a beanie cat hey look I took shrooms I'm a cyclops King got off herself defense yeah you had to do it yeah so this is Doc's guy yep cool doc had King start contacting the best con men in the country and inviting them to Minneapolis to conduct their business good good this is that's right swamp the drain I'm starting to think there might be a little corruption afford I'm gonna hold off my judgments bill reserve the common were organized into groups and detectives would oversee their operations sure and the administration would
Starting point is 00:47:26 take 10% sure okay starting to come over to your camp now yeah okay now John Fitchett was also a key man in Doc's force Fitchett had no experience as a cop he ran a seafood restaurant called a coffee John's oyster grotto but they're very similar they're very similar yeah you shuck an oyster yeah I put a bunch of crab on ice and then you got to put the bad guys on right and they think that's the only thing you're scraping out crime from the city yeah yeah it did breaking the claw of injustice yeah and also the tune has gone bad that's just a note for general customers of the store his nickname was coffee John coffee John the
Starting point is 00:48:17 oyster man a little busy little busy a sign read quote the only first-class oyster house west of Chicago how hard is that aren't you the only one that's right marketing it's better than that one in Bismarck believe it or not in October of 1887 at 1 30 a.m. in the morning coffee John finished a steak and look what the fuck is coffee John doing coffee John don't sleep I'm just having a 2 a.m. steak don't be John don't worry about a coffee John I put some oysters on the steak coffee on that shit I'm fucked up I'm drinking steaks I'm eating coffee he looked at the other guys in the restaurant and said he would
Starting point is 00:49:15 eat 500 oysters in two hours for a $10 bet what just happened what you'll eat 500 oysters in two hours after he ate his steak yeah for 10 bucks I went my god how fast my hand would be on my money oh yeah please please please please please yeah they went for it oh they did and he started eating and one man was so sick and watching he had to go outside for fresh air to stop himself from throwing up such as just watching it made people coffee John did it with five minutes to spare the power of coffee oh my lord finally a hero right everybody let's take a stab someone the eye oh well
Starting point is 00:50:11 coffee John was also a belligerent bully okay if anyone said anything bad about his food he completely lost his mind in September 1980 he was fined for attacking a customer who argued about the price of oyster stew well the customers right another time a customer complained that he'd been served blue fish instead of bass and coffee John punched him twice in the head then head about it I'm gonna hit him in the head with a sugar bowl the last thing seems like an embellishment after that yeah he was charged with the salt but his fellow Masons came as witnesses to a trial sugar bowl fell on him and he got
Starting point is 00:51:01 off anyway coffee John he's now a cop good good it's time to enforce the oyster coffee cup yeah dr. coffee cup just looking for spin-off shows here yeah yeah after dr. cup doctor yeah dr. cap the oyster cup the governor made doc of the state surgeon general sure yep well he's a doc yeah I keep forgetting somehow he's a doctor never does any medical shit but now why would he his commission was that of a brigadier general so he walked around in a full military uniform with they called epulates a braid and a chest full of metals wow a chest full of metals singing Gilbert and Sullivan songs and then
Starting point is 00:52:04 he got a sword finally with the words brigadier general AA Ames surgeon general of the state of Minnesota 1901 to 1902 inscribed on so you could commit surgery on the spot so judging by the mental state of this gentleman already I feel like this is going to ground him bring him back to earth for a little bit yeah a sore yeah title of brigadier a bit of humble pie yeah with a chest full of metals so now coffee John's main job was to sell positions on the police force I'm glad he's still in the story yeah he moved up he moved up the ranks very fast doc made him a sergeant in January Sergeant Espresso a lieutenant in
Starting point is 00:52:54 February and then a captain in March wow so really rising up the ranks just very easily could not even keep in his uniforms like a doc was so happy with what coffee John was doing he gave him a gold star with a diamond in the center as a special commendation for his three months as a cop it's good to see my cost players more and more at the end of this story I feel like it should be two children pretending he gave gold stars with diamonds to other high-ranking cops including his brother who's done an unbelievable he's he's been effective really great doing a great job these days more and more yeah meanwhile the
Starting point is 00:53:36 rank-and-file cops who had to buy their jobs were being asked for money to buy jewelry cigars and other gifts for their superiors yeah he needs it yeah they were all furious for having to turn over some of their salary and now reporters started getting suspicious about what about the huge plume tatty swan around diamond star cop uniform to have a diamond star yes if they're good cops one day coffee John led a man out of jail the deputy Kirk clerk of the court said there was a second charge against him but coffee John refused to re-arrest him so the clerk went and got a sheriff to do it coffee John was furious and he got
Starting point is 00:54:28 in the clerk's face oh here comes the sugar bowl he's wearing it like a gun fool give me a reason he flips it around he called him quote too fresh well he does know and if anybody knows freshness it's me coffee John I used to push oysters and let me tell you they were top of the catch they are the freshest lake oysters you can get delicious barnacles so coffee John then had the clerk arrested for swearing at him sure that's how you do it at the clerk's trial the next day the court laughed at the supposed abusive words and he was acquitted yeah it's weird when you have to read out your own name but the clerk
Starting point is 00:55:16 turned out to be a snitch for the journal stitches stitches are coming so the reporters of the journal now started looking into the arrests because John had let the guy out of jail right and it turns out tons of people were being arrested and then just let go and there were two sets of records now another cop named Norbeck was such a drunk that he had a terrible case of rosacea it was so bad that he just had a giant big red sore on his nose he's okay he also grinned and winked at inappropriate times he was the original Joker yeah he was drunk to be fair yeah part of it from here on in we can just assume
Starting point is 00:56:04 everyone is drunk yeah just decrees of it Norbeck was described as disturbing it's great it's great that's why I'm winking why are you calling me disturbing I have a bleeding sore in the middle of my nose oh it's that bad I'm Norbeck doc made him a detective and in February provided him to lieutenant now the campaign for mayor had cost Doc so much money he asked $20 from veterans each month and said they'd be fired if they didn't give it up it's not really asking he's still not turning a profit on this fucking thing yeah rookie's only had to pay $10 that's nice yeah and then in March 3
Starting point is 00:56:51 veterans refused to refuse to pay and they were fired one made a sword out of affidavit stating that the Ames brothers were running a shakedown operation but doc and his brother denied it the cop who signed the affidavit was then arrested by King for being drunk and pulling out a gun and in court he said that he had the gun because he was now a security guard and he never pulled it out and he also said he was not drunk he'd only had a cider in three beers yeah which by the way what a great time when you can talk about how you're not drunk I'm not drunk I'm seven four I'm logical I'm focused very sensible I kill better
Starting point is 00:57:36 after a few I like to say I'm better I'm three beers better I'm relaxed not a great order for drinking so witnesses backed him up but the cop was found guilt the cop was found guilty and fine sure wait cop clerk what was he who cares another cop quit and said there were big mitt games going on and he wouldn't he couldn't do anything about it he wasn't allowed to a mitt game was basically a poker game that was set up by conman crews to swindle a new guy who came into town so they swindled you were playing with me backstage right no no it's different it's okay I owe you a lot of money yeah yeah like I said we can get
Starting point is 00:58:21 us get some travel okay I'll be a boat eventually very soon very soon man can dream when the when the victim complained to a cop the cop would just say he'd been illegally gambling and to let it go or he'd be arrested so they're all right yeah a grand jury was begun three months into doc's term to look at what was going on pretty fast it's all happening in like a week the grand jury determined since January the number of gambling houses had exploded and they all had police protection they said to the gang of conman known were known as the syndicate and had taken over the city and had no fear of arrest their
Starting point is 00:59:04 leader Fred Briggs was often at City Hall and was seen in quote friendly intercourse with King nice please it's friendly what do you mean I think they're fucking okay they're no it's they're having you know just like a deep conversation oh okay fucking wow okay that's different that's hanging yeah hanging they're hanging out they're hanging out the jury recommended doc fire king and officer Gardner who gave out licenses and collected fees from businesses several saloon keepers and gambling house owners were indicted but no city officials doc said this was all the work of busy bodies
Starting point is 00:59:49 toddlers and newsmongers yeah these guys like stab each other in the eyes but they're all like you're a licks middle in a penis head you're a you're a poof you're a you're a sniggle poof it's not the most vicious event so he said the grand jury was partisan a witch hunt and a hatchet job by his enemies witch hunt interesting job interesting some of these and that he was not going to fire King or Gardner no collusion and then two days she harassment two days later he said the reputation of Minneapolis was at stake there we go big stakes big stakes quote is Minneapolis a hellhole and do her newspapers and representative
Starting point is 01:00:36 citizens want to proclaim that fact to the world what do you think folks yeah it is all right the answer is yes Norm King wasn't worried at all he said quote I feel very pleasant about it yeah whatever to make money the city find brothels I was how the city made money one of the ways okay so a madam I get fine at the beginning of a month and then she would come in and pay the fine in court and then she'd be left alone right then dock parking tickets thank you for that super help let that be a lesson to everybody don't do that dock change the system and now had the madams just pay his officers directly well that's
Starting point is 01:01:24 simply that's like direct deposit that's just a little faster fish eliminate the middleman yeah but the madams all got scared of what was going on they shut down their brothels and they fled well that's yeah what does that do to a city at that time oh no and that's how st. paul started oh boy yeah sorry guys well here we go it is I st. paul sorry st. Paulians papers wrote that the system had worked fine before there was no reason to change it but doc actually wanted the madams gone because he was setting up new brothels with fronts that look like candy stores and bath houses and other fake stores
Starting point is 01:02:08 candy stores yes no children allowed at the candy store and we're only open at night okay you know we're short on candy and people actually walk into barber shops we don't cut areas whatever you mean oh take your dick out what I want a kind of barber shop I mean I guess I'll take my dick out if you guys will cut my hair if my dick comes out do I still get a haircut no well I'm gonna take it out and I'm gonna assume someone's gonna at least take some of it off the sides oh there'd be something taken off but perfect not the sides all right well I love to close my eyes during my haircuts
Starting point is 01:02:55 and the thing I've always done what do you think about mouths what a weird question but I guess they're fine I mean if my eyes are closed and I would love a little bit more off the sides doesn't feel like any's come off yet but mouths are good who's drafty in here what a weird environment feel like I've got oysters in my pants so basically he he took out the the city from the equation right and now they haven't he's friend protection of the brothels are more vulnerable he's turned it into dock town yeah it's like the back to the future to weird Biff world that's right yeah it's like it's like Potter'sville and
Starting point is 01:03:41 it's a wonderful life right so now all the all the con men and the gamblers and everything are getting more brazen sure people are just getting taken advantage of and victimized and cops are just shrugging and being like yeah yeah what are you gonna do you shouldn't have gotten robbed the rough city what are you doing they got robbed so easy stupid you maybe you just stupid because you got robbed so simply do you ever think about that you shouldn't let that happen next time don't get robbed you dummy dumbass stupid I'm gonna draw an S on this guy's head guys I'm from I'm from Minneapolis and I got a Jersey accent I
Starting point is 01:04:20 don't know how that happened huh just kind of happened naturally we don't know we talked like back then you talk to stupid people hey look at this dumb fuck I'm from me very someone fair yeah exactly we're gonna get breakfast at Peckins or what I'm gonna go get a haircut real quick hey Tony Tony let's get some looterfisk hey Tony so there's all this crime happening and so doc made a big deal about the rest of one pick pocket and said crime was now down in Minneapolis we ladies and gentlemen we got him we found him this kids been doing it all fucking Larry he stole a button the
Starting point is 01:05:17 other day yeah man this kid's gone I think everything should be pretty good over here so the sheriff of the county Philip of Margaden was not liking this and he had his and then he has deputies roll into town and crack down all the gambling houses and the slot machines and doctors Mac is he was making 15,000 a year off the slot machines sure a third of the profits went to the city and a third of the profits went to the cops so so Docs cops came up with evidence that the sheriff was submitting bills for travel that overcharged the county and they and arrested him and the sheriff said he was
Starting point is 01:05:54 innocent but he was discredited wow Jesus some parts of the city were completely out of control there was a low-class theater called the Columbia in the museum district the owner of the st. Paul globe called a quote called the owner quote a man famed for his connection with lewd resorts where women show their nether limbs for the selection other limbs you want to see a vagina hand hello here's my leg boob look at that ooh la la right where women would show their nether limbs for the selection of wayfaring lumberman and itching harvest hands itching harvest ah yeah cover with soybeans I need some
Starting point is 01:06:44 nether limbs Jesus Christ this is such a cool thing to do with a bunch of other guys this is awesome I love the theater I love it I love the museum district of town the best nether limbs in town unbelievable just top-notch so the grand jury back when had recommended that Columbia should be closed for serving alcohol and having immoral shows but doc did nothing for having alcohol pretty low bar at that yeah in April that you know on two actresses at the Columbia got into a fight over beer money and one kicked the other to death fucking Minneapolis style damn I mean we all like beer money I mean that is that is
Starting point is 01:07:38 truly yeah an 1800 Midwest crime yeah kicking to death over beer yeah beer money not even yeah I get a hypothetical beer future beer right murdering someone over future beer the irony was it wasn't even enough for a pint and that's how St. Pauli girls started so she got she got two and a half years well that's why they throw the book in her day she killed the woman with her feet what's the wow the judge was furious at the owner doc had allowed the owner to break all the rules and closed down as nearest competitors put up a no-kicking sign what
Starting point is 01:08:22 I've been telling you well turns out it was the pick pocket again this kid just well the mischief is he's just a mischievous boy he's a scam mischief finds this one so then the owner was found guilty of it letting a 15-year-old girl serve liquor and was fined still doc left it open and the press now started going crazy over the Columbia doc said the owners legal issues was why he hadn't closed the theater he didn't want to quote interfere with the courts that's right yeah it's my respect for the law that kept this place open so long I love the law in November doc took a vacation and well earned
Starting point is 01:09:01 you've just put your stamp on one of the best towns in America he's take a little time off where would you go I mean you live in paradise look you're gonna go he'd go to st. cloud sorry I'm responsible for the local references here no he's done a great he's done a great job yeah you really need some time yeah revel in your success he went hunting in Grand Rapids that's the joke I just made pretty much like fucking rich guy go to Paris when he returned he found out one of Minneapolis's biggest pastors had given a sermon about him he said an investigation the Lord thinks this guy is great yeah the pastor an
Starting point is 01:09:56 investigation was already underway which would result the pastor that's right it's a bunch of pastor cops we're on a cop doctor doctor cop pastor cop pastor cops their cops we're all canceled halfway through the preview we got the word so when doc heard he said quote I am willing to admit women frequent saloons in Minneapolis but we cannot stop it they have as much right to be there as the men oh I love the way he sisters are doing it for themselves the way finagles his way around like I'm a feminist no jerk off still the next day because he was taken 80 ordered the cops to crack down and then he called the
Starting point is 01:10:43 pastor a liar and said ministers were only saying this to benefit themselves you're a symbol pinky twit knit in December it was apparent doc was starting to unravel from the pressure the board of corrections and charities voted for the city doctor to no longer report to the mayor but to report to a hospital committee okay because it turns out the city doctor was buying unnecessary medical supplies don't need that many forceps yes we do yeah doc lost his shit at the board meeting he swore at the board for a while two board members he had appointed himself and they got the worst of it he said they
Starting point is 01:11:37 were traitors and wolves and then he stood up and said he would that's pretty cool it is good right and they said a wolf trader he stood up and said he would lick them right here and now I will lick you all that's it one by one turn your face to the right yeah yeah dog traitors yeah dog killed wolf trade now yeah yeah oh look a spittoon don't mind if I do yeah it's sip sip pass guys one of the reasons that doc was losing it was because all the criminals he had imported into Minneapolis were just way too brazen weird they didn't understand limits it seemed like yeah I know it seemed like it might be impossible to
Starting point is 01:12:34 reel them in anymore and out of an out of towner named Meeks was taken for a $775 cashier's check the police were obviously no help so he went to a reporter and the reporter took him to see police chief Fred Ames without telling Fred that he was a reporter so Meeks is in tears Fred listens to his story and then says look there's nothing I can do because you endorse the check yeah what stupid you're still why'd you do that dummy fucking stupid that's why crime happens you guilty of being a moron that's why crime and idiot have you thought about coming to Minneapolis and not being a fucking idiot no didn't occur
Starting point is 01:13:22 you did it instead you just came here like don't just be stupid yeah my checks I'll have crimes happen to me dumbass it's fucking Minneapolis this ain't the fucking heck land right shit's real here yeah the mean streets of video 500 people die a day here kid that's right thank you special stupid you ever seen a lady kick a lady to death I have because that's a show we're doing every Friday doing every night every Friday a woman gets another woman to death over beer money we do a little Shakespeare we do some songs then so lady kicks a lady yeah yeah I mean we're in the museum district so we got to do some
Starting point is 01:14:06 culture right and we talk about old bones and then this woman kicks this other woman to death so they're both paid very well it's pretty good it's a double feature so soon after a series of articles came out in the Minneapolis Times that broke down what had happened to meeks and how the police had done absolutely nothing so doc took a week-long vacation of course it's a favorite spa in Indiana yeah yeah this guy sucks at vacations that's that's a famous spa state yeah there's a bath it's a rock with a little bit of an abrasive quality rub it on your arm it feels good a lukewarm tub is a bowl of
Starting point is 01:15:01 water a couple of bugs we can fog up the outhouse make it a sauna for you give me a real nice exfoliant here's a comfort goat there you go we used to have robes Jimmy will pee on you if you're cold it would be an honor when he came back from vacation he ordered laws regulating saloons wine rooms gambling and brothels to be strictly enforced so why did I say what wine rooms were wine rooms were you'd had to have it had to have it separate from the saloon like a wine cave yeah but then there couldn't nothing could be happening in there in the wine room yes and no singing your pianos or fucking crazy no whining well
Starting point is 01:15:57 yeah yeah I've been around the wine people they don't need anything they'll just talk about the wine right but men weren't supposed to be in there you know what so look at a weird room this room this room is taking on weird rules weirdly enough there's no music there's no talking about stuff there's no dudes allowed in there it's wine weirdly kicking other women to death we're strictly encouraged all right he says 12 yeah I want one of you to be able to come out at the end one of you is gonna win a Shiraz from Grand Rapids Minnesota it's just so he tries to crack down he says no
Starting point is 01:16:39 more women or pianos and saloons no more singing where liquor is served what no more singing liquor that's a real problem it's a problem it's not the but it's not the people that drunk it's that they feel free to sing this town is a singing problem you can only imagine what happened to make them make that illegal oh it just had to be unreal every person alone was just like I'm right in the song to myself and the road is dark for me and it's a song that I'll say I'm drinking it for me I wrote a song for me, I wrote a song for me, my song is my song, I wrote a song for me, my song, my song, my song is dead, I live alone, I have a chair, I have a chair, I got a chair, I have a chair, I have two chairs right here, one song at a time please
Starting point is 01:17:33 I got two different chairs, I love both of my chairs, chairs that's it, that's it, no singing! a room full of everyone in their own musical all right there we no more goddamn singing why won't there be more there should be more on February 23rd in a wine room two women started fighting over a man yeah all right good job ladies so we like to hear one woman pulled a gun and shot three times missing the other woman the wine the other one then pulled the knife interesting the two women then fought and fought down the stairs and out into the street wow that really happened where 200 spectators surrounded them and
Starting point is 01:18:37 watched they're called extras this is set up an immediate banjo soundtrack just kicked up spontaneously a cop arrived and arrested one of the women so the crowd grabbed her and tried to free her interesting the cop had to pull out his gun to keep the mob at bay until other officers arrived they loved it so much they were like what are you doing come on this is why we're here this is the best thing that's ever happened they're both still alive this is all I got my week please I think it's the time for me to go home I got a bunch of chairs and the cop trained his gun on this thing oh no I'm nervous now he's
Starting point is 01:19:26 got his gun at me so the bar was shut down that night that night my police will be open in the morning and then the owner went to see doc and it was open the next day yeah and now the press and obviously knew all about this and they went to ask Fred what was going on and he said quote I cannot do anything there's nothing I can do they signed the checks or whatever if I was able to close it up at once I would I have reported the matter to the mayor but he has done nothing so now Fred's throwing his brother out of the bus because he's getting heat right and when he was asked why doc hadn't done anything Fred just shrugged
Starting point is 01:20:13 his shoulders he's in Indiana so even Doc's own brother's turning against him Fred wasn't done in other boardwalk Empire yeah not the ocean or the good looking people Fred wasn't done another interviews he talked about cops getting hush money and criminals being arrested and just let go but by him I myself I myself am certain that some of the officers who have had these cases received money from the crooks but I have no proof what could I do what could I do I just took the money I mean I'm just the guy in charge I'm just sitting here and things are happening around me all around and I got no control over
Starting point is 01:20:56 them I'm a lump I'm a lump all right Fred we're done with the interview I'm a fucking lump you guys interviews over stop Jesus Christ kick me in the balls what are you talking about me so fucking hard no all right everybody get out of here everybody go home all right go home I'm a very bad police turn the lights off in here hey that lady you kicked that guy and that other lady no she's not kicking you in the ball oh Jesus no it's not no we're not doing some weird fetish she's got a fuck are we back in the barbershop you got yeah sounds like the barbershop action
Starting point is 01:21:33 King's name was back in the papers okay sheriff the sheriff who had removed by office had now been fired by the governor hmm so doc sorry so King now decided he wanted to be sheriff why not for sure why not Sheriff King yeah make sense on an all-new Sheriff King but after you declare the 1800 Sheriff King do you need a cop in your house I'm your guy called Sheriff King you need a guy to enforce laws in your house you need him now cold Sheriff King we'll get him out there by tomorrow 911 giving you the run around call Sheriff King Sheriff King the only place guarantees to get your sheriff to your house within two
Starting point is 01:22:22 hours that's right a legal sheriff sorry about when we had fake sheriffs but after King announced for sheriff soon after two cops arrested a conman for a con and gone bad he just held the guy up instead you're not a teacher just give me the money I forget the roses up so the cops arrested him but King knew and like the guy so he went to the jail chit-faced and told the two cops to let him go Jesus the open drunkness of the air is always very inspiring everybody just full of bacon and shit came that everybody didn't just die every day at the time King had a black eye and a smashed nose from the night before when
Starting point is 01:23:14 he had a fight sure my man so he got in the two cops faces and he swore at them because they wouldn't let the guy go and then he pulled his gun and pointed at one but they still didn't give in so the next day Doc suspended King but then a day later he lifted the suspension he learned his lesson sorry sorry just seeing the look at his eyes he was up all night he said he changed his mind because of King's quote fidelity that's right he didn't fuck around on his wife that's right he's a good guy a couple weeks later the St. Paul globe ran a story all about the con man at work in the city quote the town is full of
Starting point is 01:23:53 thieves of all kind experts safe blowers night and day prowlers pickpockets and grafters it is said that some of the best of these have been imported from Kansas City St. Louis and other towns yeah that's right imported what's in the crate con man is this the inception story Gotham you got any air holes there I think they're dead here we are yeah we got a bunch of air holes we'll sell them to you yeah that's the crate that's the great all right hey are you guys guys we're map salesman all right this is the one there in here he promised I would be in a bed of straw what the fuck sorry boys so another grand jury was
Starting point is 01:24:35 formed good a successful businessman named Hovey Clark sure was made the foreman he hired police detectives who knew that he knew would snitch to dock and then he brought out of town detectives to do the actual investigating he paid for this all himself okay he's really into the he's really patriotic he's really like yeah by the grand jury learn there were two common in jail who are angry about being double-crossed one was the guy that King had tried to get out and they were very eager to squeal they called dock in his crew quote dock in his crew quote crooked crooks yeah which means they're on the straight
Starting point is 01:25:18 narrow they cancel each other out redundant they said that's not their best work crooked crooks no I mean come on they spilled every happened to peanut heads so these two guys build everything the new to the grand jury they even turned over a ledger book that they had kept because they didn't trust Doc's gang to be square with them it had itemized amounts of takes from victims expenses rents pretty much all cost so just an evidence book yes dear evidence the crimes I did now doc had previously announced he was going around for mayor again but suddenly he said he might take
Starting point is 01:26:01 a job somewhere else interesting what's going on on May 16th Fred officer Norbeck and Gardner were arrested by sheriff's deputies for receiving bribes most charges stem from the swindle of Roman Amix dock when back on vacation to the spa awesome finally yeah I'm going back to Bloomington exotic paradise just sitting that rocky river flatters you please get a leech massage brown oh yes there it is when he came back he said he would finish out his term as mayor and then move on to being a hotel manager at the spa retirement plan out of nowhere you know it's actually weird as you guys are busted up all the
Starting point is 01:26:53 corruption I think I just want to be an assistant GM at a spa that wild I love to help the people tan crazy I love getting knots out of backs that's my passion fizzy water we put cucumber in the water it is crazy it's wild the grapefruit in the morning it turns out he was actually a big investor in this spa okay so our Gardner was tried first during the trial the prosecutor was approached by a man in the courthouse quote you fucking son of a bitch if you don't cut out this prosecution of dr. Anz will fix you you fuck wow the language just took a whole you fuss budgets little whip snorter straight to some
Starting point is 01:27:45 kind like you cut what straight down the middle f bombs there's a shift days before the same man had approached the prosecutor on the street and asked him quote why are you prosecuting my friends the police and the prosecutor said he's not interested in discussing it and the man said well if you keep on we'll kill you it didn't take long to find out who the man warrant was turns out he wanted to be a cop but doc hadn't hired him what this was his way of showing doc he could be loyal and this is the saddest guy story he got nothing out of it so violent but it comes from a place of abandonment yeah he says he's gonna kill
Starting point is 01:28:23 the guy but what he really wants to do is be hugged yeah he wants a hug that's that's where my violence comes from see once Doc sees that I tried to stop it then then doc will make me a cop right huh he's gonna pat me on the head doc will love me right you think about your bust up and oh he's gonna give me a nickel and he's my best friend give me a little chuck under the chin like good job kid he's my best friend in the world doc my best he doesn't know who you are yeah but that doesn't mean we're not best friends of my head does oh or real life okay could you stop threatening people are you stupid fuck I'll kill
Starting point is 01:29:02 you he's such a dumb fucking idiot yeah there's a just like a no in between you know the cry for love it's a cry for love there's no gray area I'm sorry do you want to have lunch with me no you piece of fuck okay dirty shithead okay so this is why fuck nose fuck nose but liquor okay the second one yes it's sniffing fuck what Taster fuck you taste Fox I don't taste what you do you love them maybe I do taste Fox what's the don't go on a tangent of thought right now I'm in the middle of something I mean if you if you what's a fuck I mean do I taste fuck yeah I guess it is Fox are we BFFing right now hey guys you're
Starting point is 01:29:52 both fuck tasters you mean that yeah I do I guess he's right yeah you have more in common than you have different are you a therapist yeah I am now I guess I guess wow fuck they didn't expect this to be in therapy right now it is this guy's fucking crazy well we're both fucking crazy just work on your relationship you get I don't we're never gonna survive you get fuck tasting in common to work from there okay good job guys all right time's up okay let's get back to the show sure it's good section great yeah good job feel drained yeah so that you'll call your provider please last payment didn't fucking fuck tasters
Starting point is 01:30:48 it's not so the trail goes on when Fred took the stand he said he didn't know what a mitt joint was or even what a mitt man was Doc's memory suddenly terrible he said Gardner had been hired by the department but then fired two months later and now he just did stuff for Doc but he couldn't remember what kind of stuff yeah that's right yeah I remember there's a lot of stuff leading up to it but not the crime Joe Biden sorry I'm sorry that's not right that's right that's wrong after you left the courtroom doc told the press it was all a conspiracy one day during the trial the guy who had threatened to kill the
Starting point is 01:31:29 prosecutor yeah came into the courtroom shit-faced hey now I'm gonna tell you what I really think what a surprise order in the court and then he demanded to sit next to the two con men who were squealing and then he was arrested quite an appearance he's got a really terrible the prosecutor had a great plan there though just sit there and get arrested the prosecutor said quote I believe he was a little out of his head he's about to barf like a geyser too when detective Norbeck testified he said he didn't know what a conman was I have not even ever heard the term con man before what's that's like what Joe Paterno was
Starting point is 01:32:15 like he tried to play it off by not knowing what gay people he was he's like I never even heard of a gate but I don't I don't even know what that is so how could I let it happen I never even heard of something like that do we have showers we have showers I didn't know anything that's weird I didn't know the guy with a guy that didn't seem possible to me so how could I have done anything wrong guy was on my staff that's weird well I guess the Joe Paterno stuff's not ready for comedy that's a big guy you know that we've got a big pen state fans it's weird how people aren't into the hilarity of child molestation rings
Starting point is 01:32:51 treat it like cicadas bring another 16 so Gardner was found guilty of bribery doc couldn't believe it he told the press quote I am thunderstruck I am thunderstruck is that that was said back to them back to that language I am fucked I didn't know I don't know what to think it's so entirely opposite to what I've been led to expect that I scarcely know what to make of it I've been thunderstruck Norbeck's trial was next now it seemed like Gardner would turn snitch he said
Starting point is 01:33:35 he didn't didn't want to turn on doc but he didn't care about anyone else in an interview to a reporter quote if I wanted to I could blow the whole administration sky-high of course I know of corruption in the police department but I'm not gonna give it away nice nice my little secret it's my little thing little leverage my little nugget that I can't tell myself a detective Norbeck then confessed hoping for a reduced sentence he got bail and he skipped on bail nice a king's trial was coming up five days before he got drunk and pulled out a gun in a saloon is that just what everybody did in a saloon he said he
Starting point is 01:34:14 would kill anyone responsible for his indictment before he ever went into the courtroom and that'll get you off yeah five days later he went to the courtroom okay he was found guilty and got three and a half years okay and a lady kicked him to death we sent you to lady kicking and then Norbeck was caught hiding in a nearby town because of his rosacea nose I guess I overdid it my husband will be home soon the journals headline was quote Norbeck's nose was what got him into trouble that's low that hurts yeah that sounds like the character of Lady Elaine Fairchild in Mr. Rogers is based on him
Starting point is 01:35:10 big rosacea face hello under questioning Norbeck said he spent most of his time on the run drunk with nothing to eat but cheese and crackers and he mostly wandered around the woods sounds great sounds great sounds great sounds great ideal food on worse picnics I have nothing to eat but delicious cheese and crackers doctor what do you think my diet of booze and cheese is doing to my nose I can't see I literally can't see you as far as Norbeck doc told the press quote really I don't know what to think of it it puzzles me why he was hanging around this part of the country when he might have been far away it's a really
Starting point is 01:35:58 funny thing wow I mean no prep at all to answer these questions really funny isn't it all right well I should get going out this window and then doc was finally arrested along with coffee John oh I'm glad he's back yeah they had tried to bribe two county commissioners to get a friend named sheriff coffee John was found guilty and given 90 days and a hundred dollar fine now Fred's trial started the witnesses were overwhelming including Norbeck but Fred had a good lawyer who in his closing statement attacked every witness and then asked the jury to think of hammer order in your head attack he asked the
Starting point is 01:36:44 jury to think of Fred's wife what would happen to her if her husband went to jail would I marry her I might what excuse me a sidebar wait wait wait a race that Fred was found not guilty good yeah and I'm sure his wife was over the moon she's a great now this lump of shit can come home thought I was thought I was good great I'm glad I was the defense that's good that's good stuff days later he was indicted for more crimes that was his wife he did these crimes too just keep him out of the house please during all this doc and his wife packed up all their stuff sold their furniture and started moving to Indiana finally Fred
Starting point is 01:37:29 took a 15-day leave of absence from the force and went on vacation what he didn't come back when the 15 days were up interesting coffee John got out of jail four days later he was back on patrol in his uniform he was giving giving oysters to all the little kids there you go wondered why he wasn't called oyster job oyster man's here yeah he's coffee for some reason he started telling women to leave wine rooms which startled the owners so other cops went out looking for coffee John the captain found him in the Columbia theater lecturing the crowd about his duty to uphold the law oh boy Jesus then an old vet yelled at him quote
Starting point is 01:38:11 oh what do we care for you and John charged at him and punched the vet in the face baby coffee John was arrested that's for punching a vet yeah okay the next day he went and started talking to the grand jury Fred came back on July 27th with the tan oh I am rested I'll tell you what you looking good Fred Doc Spuzz something else he learned the city council had to replace him as police chief because he didn't return on time so he had so he had the new police chief transferred to another station okay and there's also now an acting mayor no you know you're still police chief you're just in Nevada for their police I'm here
Starting point is 01:38:55 police can work remotely in coffee John another detective went to see doc in Indiana when they returned they reported doc was in bad shape quote he is a total wreck physically and his death in my opinion is a matter of weeks if not days something good spa yeah like good return soil and soil and green spa his liver is practically gone his change in appearance I wonder why I wonder what happened there liver his change in appearance is startling but doc he talked to them and agreed to resign the next day Fred came back and resigned as police chief as did
Starting point is 01:39:33 coffee John doc mailed a resignation letter but the city council did nothing with it because they were happy with the interim mayor didn't want to hold an election a county prosecutor went to see doc and take his deposition and then a warrant was issued for his arrest so doc Randall Louisville and working his way down the map and the sheriff for Minneapolis went there to arrest him but he got word that doc got word the sheriff was there and was waiting for extradition approvals down to Oklahoma the sheriff's literally watching the boarding house and he goes out the back door and takes off nice a couple days
Starting point is 01:40:16 later coffee John died of pneumonia at home it turned out coffee John was the main prosecution witness against doc oh boy and his dying made prosecuting doc much more difficult then McClure's magazine published an article titled quote the shame of Minneapolis here we are today it broke down the entire story of the crime riddled corrupt city with pictures of the mit ledger the grand jury had received Minneapolis was now seen as the disgrace of the entire nation we did it folks there you go that's awesome we did it disgrace disgrace disgrace the journal printed a story with the headline
Starting point is 01:41:11 quote dr. Ames losing his mind doc was at his in-laws in New Hampshire apparently on the verge of madness and his health was terrible a photo journalist found him and said doc couldn't even speak his wife had to speak for him but a neighbor wrote to the paper soon after the story was printed and said quote I see by your paper that he is very feeble in bed that is a mistake taint no such thing as neighbors see him almost daily about the place and out to a walk just that Sunday he'd gone to a big town dinner and had a blast wow doing cartwheel rice yeah so the sheriff went and doc agreed to come
Starting point is 01:41:53 back and turn himself in he came back to Minneapolis on March 17th he's he moved slow but seemed not anything like had been described the next day he was charged with nine counts after the long trial he was found guilty it was a cathartic moment for the city justice had finally been served and the city's good name could be returned doc was given six years hard labor but a few months later it was all overturned on a technicality what technicality something about the indictment there was something wrong procedural bullshit yeah it was some bullshit sympathy now sympathy had grown for doc over time in the trial
Starting point is 01:42:30 that's the worst why does that happen and the county the county prosecutors realized any jury they sat would include some people who he'd helped so another trial never happened and doc lived another nine years in Minneapolis working as a doctor until he died at home on November 16th 1911 so he finally fulfilled his dream he finally he had no more cop business he saw patients what his life of crime was over he's like I'll be a doctor you got a sniffle fine take an aspirin I'm gonna tell mom and dad oh wait oh well a life well lived right yeah that is from the book dirty doc Ames and the scandal that shook Minneapolis
Starting point is 01:43:15 by Eric ravine revenue rip ribbon is I didn't have it up behind yeah revenues yeah good book fun book doc Ames maybe your city's biggest hero yeah it's the only one with balls yeah he's only wanted yeah he's only want to really fucking went after something he went after the story of a dreamer who didn't take no he didn't take no he didn't see a patient he drank a lot yeah it's like story about a he went to Indiana a lot yeah hang out in a spot life well lived my friends yeah he did he did it was a story of a comeback yeah four or five comebacks six to 15 different comebacks 28 and 93
Starting point is 01:44:06 come back the Minneapolis herpes he must have been just like a bag of STD's by the oh sure it sounds like everybody had a story right that's cool that's a cool energy that's a cool vibe just a city of itchers and scratchers oh come on they had some sort of pubic lights your open stores are looking great today thank you they still burn everything burns the best kind everything burns everything burns every step I take burns burns and aches oh thank you guys so much for coming out we appreciate it Minneapolis but up for Bill Corbin thank you guys appreciate it you

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