The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 422 - George Jackson (live)

Episode Date: March 24, 2020

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds explore the life of activist George JacksonSources (Main - Paul Liberatore. The Road To Hell)Tour DatesRedbubble Merch

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you guys have lost your jobs. We know that a lot of you are sick and we know a lot of you guys are scared because you have kids and you don't know what to do and then there's immuno-compromised people who have or are being forced to work jobs. So understand there's a lot of people in your position you are 100% not alone and because there's so many people in your position we can get stuff done. We can take the state of New York as an example. The governor passes and the legislation that's passed to just freeze mortgages and yet not rents. So landlords don't have to pay their mortgages on their buildings and

yet they can collect money. That's the kind of insane corruption that needs to end. We need to have rent forgiveness, we need to have rent freezes, we need to have anti-retailatory measures against landlords and eviction memoratorium. Listen, people need to call their leaders and demand this, not ask for it and that needs to be happening in every city, in every state, everywhere. And those of you can pay your rent, you also need to be calling for your fellow Americans who don't have money to pay rent because they lost their job or they're sick. We all have to do it and if a time call comes for a rent

strike, if you can pay your rent you have to join with your neighbors and not pay your rent. We need to change the system and we need to change it now because it tell you what, we can see what they're doing in government and it ain't great. It's certainly not to help us, they're just trying to figure out how to help the businesses. That's pretty much where we're at. So look, there's power in numbers. I am hoping this is a big change moment, but again, now you're not alone and you can reach out to other people and you can find millions who are in your same same position. So this is gonna be a rough ride, but hopefully when we get

through it on the other side, we've changed a lot of shit. Hang in there. Anybody from Sanansamo? Hey, that's where I grew up. I grew up in Sleepy Hollow. Dragon? Pen Dragon. Oh, Pen Dragon, still the best story. I'm considering trying to go visit one of those guys in prison. Sure. Not the lead guy, one of the other the younger guys. Oh, okay. I thought it was gonna be weird. No, the kid who got... Now you're gonna go meet a young up-and-comer. That's better. The guy who got into it late. I think that's the... hit your wagon to that. He didn't get into it late. He just got sucked into the business. Sure, yeah. You don't want to kill the guy.

No, no, of course not. He's just hanging out with an older guy and he's like, okay, we should kill this guy. You do it, and you're like, all right, fuck, now I'm in Vacaville for life. Get this out of your system before you go for the visit. It's a little too jokey. Do we have any announcements we want to make or anything? Is there anything we have to tell people? You can go to garethronals.com. I got some stand updates coming up. Go to that. Check it out. It'll be fun. I mean, the hell knows when this one's going up, right? I don't know. Some of them go up months later. Okay, great. So yeah, go there. I'm going to future cities that I haven't even heard

about yet. Ooh. Isn't that exciting? Well, we'll have to suspend the tour half way through the year because of the coronavirus. Do you see why I love hanging out with this gentleman? Do you see? It's like a depressed Santa. My dad would be so proud of us playing here, but he's dead. And it was kind of a pathetic death. You're just more comfortable with it than anyone else. It's your dad, so it's hard for us to know what to do. You're listening to the dollop. This is a bisexual American history podcast. Each week I read a story from American history to my friend. Gareth Reynolds, who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. Well done. Well done. You know your part. Yeah, you forgot

you're to say your name again, but that's fine. Did I? I didn't know we were going to do a note session. My name is Dave Anthony. Great. Right on time. Son of Michael Anthony, who's going to come up in this episode? What? Yeah. What? September 23rd, 1941. That's quite a teaser. George Jackson was born on the west side of Chicago to Lester and Georgia Bay Jackson beat. Sorry. It just, it does. It is spelled Bay. I think you have something going on with this person. It's probably should have spell checked. George was the second of five kids. Lester worked very hard at the post office 16 hour days. Wow. Lester had a hard time showing emotions. Sure. Told you my dad would come up. According to Paul Libertari's

book, The Road to Hell, George couldn't remember one display of genuine affection or sensitivity from Lester the whole time he was growing up. Hearing that book title. What? The Road to Hell. Yeah. Okay. It could be anything. It sounds like it's going to get weird. Why? The Road to Hell? It might be a bar or a casino. Sure. Whatever. All quotes will be from Libertari's book unless otherwise noted. George grew up in a black neighborhood and everything was extremely segregated. Okay. And George is white? No, George is black. George is black. The first day he went to school was the first time he saw a white person. Okay. Get used to that image. We're out there. He walked up to a white boy in the schoolyard and was

a little freaked out. He ran his hand over the kid's straight hair. Okay. And then he said anything to the kid yet or he's just sort of like, whoa. Yeah. He's real? Yeah. It's what he's doing. Yeah. And then he scratched the kid's cheek to see if there is any black underneath. Wow. I mean, this kid at some point has to say something. It's not a grade. We go to the same school. The kid then walked over, picked up a baseball bat and hit George over the head. Jesus Christ. Well, he is white. We know that for sure. I'm sure he's a cop now. He knocked George unconscious. What a great lesson for George to learn on the first day. White people are bad. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Like, oh, okay. That's why I

don't see him. So his mom the next day switched him to a private black Catholic school. Okay. Each summer, George's mom sent him to his grandmothers in rural Southern Illinois where he learned to use guns and hunt. Good. Great. The road to hell. Lester moved the family into the Troop Street projects thinking it would be better than their apartment. Okay. That did not work. Yeah. The projects were not a good influence on George. He hung out with other angry kids and stopped attending school regularly. Okay. He began getting picked up for shoplifting and other small crimes. Nice. His parents had another son and George bonded with the baby. Baby Jonathan. Instantly. But George was out of control and

he would now disappear for days at a time. He's like 14. Okay. So you can imagine 14 Chicago. You want to explore the world a little bit? Sure. So just you just vanish for a while. Yeah. Come back. What's up, mom, dad? How's my baby? I'm 18 now. My baby. Yeah. It's mine. In 1956, the family moved to Watts in Los Angeles to escape the bad influences. Wait. The decision, the decision making what as far as where to move is the next choice. Hell, that's where he goes next. He's like, this will be better. I think this will be better. Yeah. That was not a great choice. Sure. But they had relatives in Los Angeles. Okay. You know what? Lester got a transfer to another post office there. Now on their very first

day in LA, Lester went over to a relative's house. And so George got into his dad's Hudson and started driving it. Jesus. He could barely reach the pedals and pretty quickly crashed it through a barbershop glass window. Jesus. That's a bold crash. So that obviously was not great. Right. He quickly started running with a gang called the Capones. Good. So like a good force in the world. That's right. Right. So he's like 15 or 16. I think he's 15. Anyway, he's six feet tall and 200 pounds. Well, this dude should be driving. I don't think there's no, how's he not reaching the pedals? How big is this Hudson? Just no bottom. It's like a Flintstone car. Yeah. That's fair. I think he grew up a little bit after the car. Yeah.

Well, maybe we'll say a year's past or something. A year? That's a big year. How long did he how long did he run with the Capones? They grow a lot at that age. They grow a lot of kids grow a lot at that age. Sure. He's sprung it up. The first time he was arrested was on January 5th, 1957 for riding a stolen my motorcycle. Okay. He said he had a pink slip in the cops like, Oh, that's your signature on it. Okay. So right. Two weeks later, he was arrested for burglarizing a motorcycle business. Look, he's finding a hobby that he likes. You know what I mean? He should nurture that. They should be cool. Yeah. I don't know why we're, you know, you're taking that away from him. Yeah. Let him do it. He

got into a fight with a cop who tried to search him at the station. He confessed to the crime and was sent to juvenile hall at the station was where they did the search. No, he, uh, yeah, they will. When they get you to the station, they're going to put you in jail. They look through your pockets and stuff. Hey, they look at your pockets before and I've been to jail. Okay. Jack. Well, maybe it was different in 1957. Well, maybe. Uh, so after he got out of juvenile hall, he was quickly arrested again for burglary. Motorcycles. I don't know. It was a department store. Okay. Uh, Lester refused to bail George out and George was sent to a youth facility at Passa Robles. Okay. That's up north hour, hour and

a half, maybe two hours. All right. I'm in San Francisco. I'm not in Los Angeles. That happens. It's about hour and a half north of Los Angeles, maybe two hours. Sure. Um, he was, he got eight months. Okay. Shit. Yeah. While he was there, he pretended he was so stupid that he couldn't understand basic instructions to get out of work detail. Smart. That's the first thing you should do in any situation like that is set the lowest bar possible. Yeah. Without question. Yeah. You're like, I don't understand how a broom works. They're like, yeah, fuck. All right. Next guy, you know, you can just be in your cell eating Doritos all day. Pretty bad to not. I was work. It's pretty bad not to get how a broom

works though. Like you literally have to brush with the wrong side on the ground. Wait, there's a right side. Whoa. There's a lot of info coming at me right now, dude. You just play it like that. Like, yeah. What? So wait, I, I use walk me through it again. You take that and you put it on the ground and you, you push. I don't think I can push with this though. Want to go through the floor? Do you do this? No, you don't push down sideways along the ground. Uh, I kind of need to be walking through this one more time. I'm sorry. I've walked you through it nine times. Uh, so what is it? I'm sorry. I want to get it. I want to be a team player. I just don't. Yeah. You wrote, you wrote a motorcycle though.

Uh, yeah, but, and then I fell. That's not in. That's not what we heard in the report. Give me the fucking bro. God damn bro. Uh, George read a lot in his cell. Sure. When he was released, he headed for Los Angeles, but he stopped in Bakersfield and he met a girl that no one's ever cheered. Yeah. No, literally. You must think that's where actual bakers live. Otherwise that's inexcusable. Yeah. Usually people just go, I'm not from there. And then he stopped in Metsville. Uh, so he stops there and he meets a girl. So then he's like, well, I'm going to stay here a while. He couldn't make the journey to Los Angeles. Well, he was going there, but then a girl and, you know, girls have,

I'm aware. Yeah. I think we're all very aware. Our stuff goes in there. Yep. That's what, sort of why I was trying to, yep, we're good. Thank you for that. It feels great. Stop it. Right now. You can go in a guy too. That feels good also. All right. I think we're all, let's do it. Let's, uh, move a forward, sir. Just holes are fun. She's a lucky lady. She like, she likes it. She like, she likes it. All right. Just go back to the iPad. Stop fiddling. Yeah. No, you're, you're, it's weird what you're doing. She doesn't gripping that phallus a little too much, buddy. She doesn't stop. Sometimes she asks stop. What a crazy thing to say at the end, by the way, begs. Right.

Yeah, begs. Uh, so he stays with his girl a bit, but then he needs money, right? Uh, so he robbed a gas station. Perfect. Perfect. Uh, for $105 and was arrested again. Wow. Now while he was waiting to be sentenced, he saw another inmate who was about to be released. So he tied the guy up and then walked out pretending to be that guy. That's sometimes her prisons are cool. Sometimes you're like, yeah, maybe we do have a good system. Didn't you just come in here? No, I'll get out today. See you later. You're an idiot. You'll be quiet over there. Pipe down. New guy. Fresh meat. Check your mouth, newbie. Yeah, we see the number. We're not idiots. George said, quote, all blacks

do look alike to certain white people. I mean, a racial advantage for once. There you go. Yeah. Like finally you're like, Hey, you know what? This is actually an upside to this. Uh, obviously he got out and he needed money again. So he robbed a gas station. Smart. Go back there, get another $105 and he was arrested again. He's arrested. Great. So he better hope that there's some other dude coming out again. Uh, so he took a deal from the district attorney to get a light sentence. Okay, great. But the DA fucked him and he was given one year to life. Wow. What kind of a cent? That's like when a board game's like ages two to 99. You're like, no, that's not, you have a demo and you're not stating

it properly. Is there an opener over there? Yeah, there's an opener right here. Um, uh, so this was a common sentence back then. One did life one to life. So it was how, uh, how they would handle, uh, people of color. Yeah. You could just be like, well, you're a problem. So we could put you in jail for a year or forever. Wow. It's just a way to get someone. It's totally ruins you. Yeah, ruins your mind. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, good times California. Yeah. Not a racist place. He was sent to, uh, a prison in Soledad, which is in central California, beautiful area. How far away from Los Angeles where we are, is it? It's about, uh, from where we are, it's about two and a half hours north. Right. Oh,

uh, so the psychiatrist at Soledad wrote of George quote, he rationalized at a great length that his anti-social behavior was justified and that it is his intention to continue with anti-social acts until he accumulates a sufficiently large sum of money that would satisfy him. So his plan is to just be alone until he gets rich and then he'll be happy. No, he's going to rob people until he, not anti-social, not in the, not in the manner of like, I don't want to be around people like anti-social, like I don't care about social norms. Oh, I'm going to take what I fucking want until he's rich. Yeah. Great. So it's, it's at least just a fucking plan. Yeah. No, it's a two tiered plan. So he was, uh, he was sent

to what? That's impressive. What I just did. Yeah. You're like a monkey. Oh, my dad was an alcoholic. So I learned all kinds of skills. This just takes me to him holding you while he's opening a beer while you're sitting on his chest. I wasn't a beer. Seagram seven, buddy. That was the drink. Drink that was seven up like some kind of hillbilly. He was sent to San Quentin in May of 1962, but he was 18 years old. So San Quentin refused to take him. Okay. Cause that's too young. They thought. Wow. Imagine when they did that. That's insane. Yeah. Imagine a time where a person was like, no, no, that would be because of morals. He'd be like, all right, we had our fun buzz us in. So he was sent to an institution

at Tracy, California. I would not do that for Tracy either. I don't have, you guys hang out with the Bakersfield. Maybe you, it's Valentine's Day. If you guys are alone, you in the Bakersfield, we might have a Tracy Bakersfield summer autumn sort of vibe. Just the pitch there. George and his cellmate who became his best friend, James Carr formed what they called the wolf pack. Nice. Nice. It's a good prison name. Yeah. Yeah. And especially when you're selling your bestie, that's fun. Yeah. That's nice. Yeah. It's better than the rapey guy. Yeah. It was a gang that was evolved in selling drugs, booze and pimping gay prisoners. Just like wolves. Just like regular wolves in nature. It is. It's mostly

what wolves do in nature. So they have a shady business inside prison, prison, right? Yeah. It's not crazy. George was now massive. He was doing a thousand pushups a day on his fingertips. Oh my God. Why doesn't he just bend the bars and leave a thousand pushups on your fingertips? Yeah. Feels like the start of a math riddle. Like literally I couldn't do one like fingertips. Yeah. I mean his fingertips, his fingers must have been huge. His fingers were probably like your arms. Yeah. Like his fingers were like the rock's arms. Yeah. Now we're just building them up to epic proportion. I bet his fingers were like mountains and sands was a galaxy. He also self taught himself a bastardized version. Yeah. It was a double.

I did a double one. I think you're missing one himself in that sense. Was it himself that did it? Yes. Be explicit. He self taught himself. Himself though? Yes. Okay. As opposed to self teaching another guy. Right. He self taught himself a bastardized version. I'm going to say, I'm going to keep saying it. He self taught himself a bastardized version of karate. Oh. So self taught defense himself. Yes. So he in, I assume he got books from the prison library or something. One would hope that if he's self teaching himself karate, he's going to have a book or two. Otherwise it's like, what are you doing? What I imagine karate is. Mostly finger flicking. What are you doing, George? George, he's dead. Leave

him alone. Karate. George, you killed him already. George, he died an hour ago. Let him be. My fingers are crazy. Yeah. You're, yeah. Unstoppable. Like the rock who doesn't exist yet. Yeah. I was going to say. Whoa. Killed 14 people with these fingers. Anyway, are you going to sweep or what's your angle? I don't know how to use that fucking thing. So George and Kar became muscle for battling Mexican gangs. The Mexican gangs are fighting over control of the drug trade and stuff. Sure. Sounds like for people in another country, it sounds like they're outside a prison. This is what our prisons are like on the inside. It's nice to hear about how crime flourishes when you've been put away for crime. George

was also a collector. Sure. A prisoner would give him a debt and George would go collected for him. See, again, I went vanilla version. I went real sweet. You were like, I like to make model cars. Oh, George, a little cutie. Look at your shelf, a little cars you made. And then he started buying up debts. So he could collect them, you know, like credit card companies do, you buy debt from other credit card companies, except they don't, they're worse. So none of this was helping with his parole situation. Oh, right. Parole. So now he had tons of disciplinary disciplinary infractions six months after arriving at Tracy. He was sent back to San Quentin because he was a quote management problem. Okay. So he

was denied parole every year. When it looked like he might get parole in 1965. Lester wrote a letter to the board warning them not to. Well, Jesus. The most concerning thing to prison officials and Lester was that George had a growing political awareness. Oh, there it is. How dare he? No, wrong. And a revolutionary outlook. In 1966, George was working in the prison as an orderly when the prison's boxing champion W. L. Nolan approached him. W. L. had been stabbed in a fight and George secretly stitched up his wounds. Where was the referee on that one? All right. Separate boys. Well, you really got him in the gut. Good there, didn't you? I just love this is a prison where you just walk around and you're just bleeding

and you're no one's. Go ahead and go in there. What are you doing? Just cruising through. Why is there blood all of you? In a boxing champion. Yeah. All right, boys, we're going to legally beat the fuck out of each other today. So W. L. and George soon became good friends and George through WL was introduced to leftist politics. That's when you will. That's right. Not Baker's field. George was constantly getting locked in solitary. He hit two inmates over their heads with a pipe in totally separate incidents. And then we get put in solitary for a long periods. And in solitary, he started to read about leftist politics. So probably not the right place to put them for them for their sex. He started

raising reading of France for now a black Algerian psychoanalyst who believed revolutionary violence was necessary. His book, The Wretched of the Earth became an ideological model for radicals. George quote, I met Marx, Lenin, Trotsky, Engels and Mao, and they redeemed me. Now George had an understanding of racism in a capitalist system. Well, power. George and WL formed a secret study group focused on the works of Marx and they began to politicize their gang. In 1966, George and WL co-founded a Marxist revolutionary organization they called the Black Gorilla Family. The Marx Brothers might be better. Maybe, woo. Modern day, not so much. Along with fellow prisoners, George, Big Jake Lewis, James Carr, Bill

Christmas, Tony Gibson and others. Oh, Christmas. Great. I know, right? Yeah, love it. How was that guy in jail? Willie Christmas. They should always be like, yeah, get out of here. Oh, Christmas. We'll see you next year. What could you possibly have done? He tried to quote, transform the black criminal mentality into a black revolutionary mentality. The guards in administration just thought George's change was manipulation. Associate Warden Park said that George was a hoodlum and a sociopath. Quote, a very personable hoodlum. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Okay, great. I mean, he's a really nice guy. I mean, I love the guy. He didn't give a shit about revolution, but he was still influencing other prisoners. A Chicano inmate

at tala minutes. Quote, every time I went by his cell, he'd say, come here, come here. He'd be quoting stuff out of his book. He'd want you to lay this revolutionary rhetoric on me, but I was like, you got anything to eat or a sex book? This guy, perfect number two in the movie. Hey, man, I understand about all that Mark stuff, but is there a Twinkie at something I can come in? Yeah, yeah, I'll get to it after I've pumped this pillow for a little while. Yeah, head on to the clouds, George. This is jail, not school. I'm hungry, man. I got to hustle something. I ain't got time for that stuff. But George always persisted. Tell him and answer said quote, he told me about Che Guevara, Fidel Castro. And I said,

Fidel Castro, that guy's a communist and he killed Kennedy. Fuck that dude. Wow. It's like a film strip. Like you're showing school like what communist Fidel Castro, man, that guy's an L seven. And George said, no, man, he's a good dude. He's fighting Uncle Sam. And I said, he is because anybody fighting a Gabacheria, a white America, you can get me on your side. That influenced me right away. And then George would teach other prisoners his own self-defense, karate, kung fu, whatever it was, that he completely developed by himself. And they would think that was awesome. And then using that, he would get them into. I'm a beige belt.

George was transferred to Soledad prison in December 1968. He was now developing his idea of what the role of prisoners should be in the coming revolution. You later write quote, prisoners must be reached and made to understand that they are victims of social injustice. This is my task. The sheer number of the prisoner class and the terms of their existence make them a mighty reservoir of revolutionary potential. I mean, this is really a downside to your wanted life policy because this dude is just getting stronger, sharper, smarter, more informed and scarier to the establishment. Yeah, but that's why you have it to life.

Yeah. But still, I mean, even in there, you'd be like, what the hell, he's getting, he's really reading down there, isn't he? No, no, no, no reading in solitary either. Don't you want some sex books and some food? But at this point, there's only 300,000 prisoners in the US. Oh my God. We take that up a notch. It's just how long until you realize it's also a commodity. What? It's for profit. What are you talking about? You can make money off it. What? Now, I know you like your old prison system. Yeah. But what I'm offering you is a way to change it. I'm sort of the Tom Selick of prisons. Huh? I think there's a way to benefit a little bit more from the

prison. Sure, we're here to rehabilitate the guys. But maybe beyond that, we just start getting huge deals to build huge prison complexes. And then the goal is to just fill them. Wait, we can make money off putting people in jail? Yes. Fuck, that's awesome. Yeah. Because the truth is, remember how great slavery was for everybody? Well, now we've created a new version of it. Wait. We can put people in jail and then they can work? Yes. What if there was a constitution that in that constitution it said prisoners could still be slaves? Get the fuck out of here. Wait, that's what we did. How many easy payments?

We never changed it. Oh my God. You could still be a slave according to the Constitution. We did it. We're white. White. I think I'll a little preachy. So George was transferred to Soledad, back to Soledad in December 1968. Did I already say that? Yes. So after impressing a new inmate Johnny Spain with his martial arts skills. Whoa, what do you call it? Karate, unless you know what karate is. Then I call it something different. He gave Spain revolutionary material to read. Now, Soledad was a racist nightmare of a prison. The guards stoked racism between black, white and Mexican gangs. And George wanted all the

gangs to come together and fight their common enemy, but prison authorities had a strict segregation policy and just encouraged black and white prisoners to taunt and race bait each other. So society like a prison. So capitalism. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Classism. Yeah. The white gang Hitler's Little Helpers. What? Guys. I didn't guys. How are they? Keep pitching. Keep pitching. There's better ones out there. I can't believe I can't believe Hitler's Little Helpers. I can't believe it's a white gang. That's right. Whatever. We're cute. We know it. Yeah. We're white. Whatever. Yeah. Come

on. You guys, let's sing this song. We represent Hitler's Little Helpers. Hitler's Little Helpers. Hitler's Little Helpers. Yeah. I mean, we're laughing at it, but they would probably kill us in a second. Yes. I'm sure that they will definitely kill us even after this, but still keep going. But I'm picturing little guys. Yeah. And what are you going to do, little Hitler? Go on my head. Get to the body. So Hitler's Little Helpers were allowed to just walk past the black prisoner cells and

throw their shit at them. Throw their, when you say their shit. They would shit in their cell. Okay. All right. All right. So Hitler's Little Helpers poo. So here we go. The shitlers right there. You just keep pitching. Far better. So every day they would just be in their cells and just Aryan shit would come through the bars. Oh, but it's the cleanest, Dave. It's the best. Of the feces, it's the best. The purest. Now George and his brother Jonathan barely knew each other because Jonathan was seven

when George went away. Okay. But they began to write to each other in 1969 when Jonathan was a teen. All right. Get ready, Jonathan. Someone's been reading. A relationship developed. George wrote that he expected Jonathan to join his revolutionary group. At the time, Jonathan was a student at Belle Air, sorry, Belle High School in Pasadena. It was a fairly integrated school for the time. Jonathan hung out with a group of white kids who published a satirical newspaper called The Pagan Rights. And Jonathan wrote for it. Okay. So pretty classic revolutionary stuff.

Sure. Yeah. WL was transferred to Soledad in 1969. And later that year, he and five other inmates filed a civil suit against the prison administration, claiming the guards made alliances with white gangs and it put black prisoners' lives at risk. Boy, that is quite a swing. Yeah, it'll go great. In January, 1970, a new yard was opened in what was the O Block, which was where they kept all the baddest of the beds. Sure. And the prison allowed the most violent white and black prisoners into the yard at the same time. Oh, Jesus Christ. A fight broke out.

What? Why? I don't know. I don't know. Sorry, you're not mic'd. Shut up. Let's see that coming. It's just tagline, though. It's pretty good if you're going to have a catchphrase. Yeah, in his head, he's just like as it comes out in the world that it's on him, the cameras on him. Yeah. You can see that coming. We'll be right back. So the fight starts and a guard shot without shooting a warning shot first, which was very out of not standard. He killed W. L. Nolan and two other black inmates.

Even the leader of the Aryan Brotherhood gang thought it was egregious. Yeah, that really is. I don't think he used that word. But excuse me, Hitler's Little Helpers, we have a question. Yeah, if the Aryans like, whoa, whoa, dude, I mean, we're Aryan, but fair is fair. Quote, they had no right to shoot those hammers. Hell, it was only a fistfight, though he might not have said that if a ricochet had not shot off one of his testicles. Now I don't know what to feel. Totally fine with it. Yeah, no, obviously I'm fine with it. No. No. But his pure sperm.

Quick, pick them up. Pick them up, boys. Get my boys off the ground. Oh, they're flapping like little tadpoles. Sink of all the beautiful blonde babies. I want to bury them individually, one by one, all a million and two. I bury mine individually every night. Sometimes I put them in a hole. Okay. Lots getting explained right now. So the guard admitted he didn't fire a warning shot. Wow. I mean, this is a different era. He was also an expert marksman, so he was clearly shooting to kill the unarmed prisoners.

Parents of the dead filed a suit. They won 70,000 altogether. During the trial, a white prisoner said he knew beforehand that the guards were going to shoot. Everybody knew who said a grand jury ruled the killings were justifiable homicide. What a crazy term. Can you imagine that happening in America? And in my America, not in this day and age. That night, a new white guard at the prison was grabbed and dragged up three flights of stairs to the top of the cell block George was in. He was beaten, thrown off the building,

and killed. Jesus Christ. Yeah. A lot of people are clapping on the inside. Yes. I didn't see that coming. George and two other black inmates were charged with murder. There was zero evidence.

Sure. They just decided they did it. Prison authorities said he was the only one who could have done it. George had had many, at this point, many, many physical fights with guards, but now he was really marked. A white prisoner was told by a guard he would get special treatment if he killed George. Wow. But he was like, I don't want to fuck with George.

Yeah. Everyone was fucking scared of George. How would you kill him? Yeah. You've seen his fingers? He's like, no, I'm going to pass. George and the two inmates who were charged became known as the Soledad brothers, left this outside the prison, believed they were being framed.

In 1970, George had his first book published, which was called Soledad Brother, and it was just a collection of letters he'd written while in prison, and a condemnation of the racism of white America. Now, at this point, the Black Panthers were very popular with the hip kids. I mean, what is going on with the affirmation at this show that like, I don't know what that meant. A whistle, a regular whistle was fine. That was like a falcon ears call.

Yeah, seriously. I support you. Maybe the Black Panthers had a whistle. Oh, great with that B. Uh-huh. On the hill. It's meeting time. Sh. 15 minutes.

Sorry, that's just the bird. Nothing Leonard Birdstein hosted a New York cocktail party for the Panthers and Hollywood celebrities fundraised for them. Bobby Seale quote, all I had to do was call up Marlon Brando or Vanessa Redgrave and they'd send us a check for $5,000 in a minute. The Soledad Brothers became the new cause for the left and famous. George attracted attention after the publication of Soledad Brothers, but it soon became liberal propaganda and George wanted his writing to serve the revolution.

He began studying the Foco theory of the Cuban Revolution, a revolutionary strategy developed by Che Guevara that states a small band of revolutionaries can wage guerrilla warfare on the capitalist state. Yes. Now, a Foco, as George understood it, was a slow buildup of a guerrilla mobile force that would break him out of prison and then this group would become the hub of a revolutionary army. George believed he was the quote, Foco motor.

The Focoder. Have the revolutionary army and he would be called the dragon, like a black Che Guevara. So he's the dragon. Black Panther Huey Newton would be the political leader and his group would provide covert support while George's group operated underground. George put Jimmy Carr in charge of the breakout operation. Now, Carr had just been paroled, but Newton was not being the political leader George wanted. He was getting into cocaine and covacier and he walked around Oakland in fancy custom suits

and was now carrying a cane. Well, cocaine. He got into S&M and insisted on an open sexual policy with the Panthers so he could have access to all the women and a few people left the Panthers because of this. Yeah. I mean, you're like, this is not what we got involved here for. I didn't come for a fuck party. Well, let's at least vote.

Can we at least vote on it? The fuck party? Well, no, that I can, you know, bang your wives and girlfriends. What? It's not a cult. Can it be? Is that crazy to think? Oh, yeah.

Maybe we should take a vote. I mean, I count for 10 votes. We're revolutionaries. All in favor. No, what the fuck is that? Opposed. All right. Come on.

All right. Great. Where's your wife at? At the same time, Huey was trying to make a deal to make George's story into a movie. He talked George into signing over the rights to his next book, Blood in My Eye. The Panthers would get four fifths of the royalties and George won fifth. Wow. Fair deal.

Yep. Good deal. During all this, Jimmy Carr was working as Newton's bodyguard, but he also spent a lot of time in Santa Cruz where he set up a gorilla training camp in the Santa Cruz mountains. Okay. He soon realized Newton and the Panthers were not the revolutionaries. He thought they were. Quote, what I found was a handful of criminals with the same worldview I'd had as a pool

hall hustler reinforced with heavy doses of ideology and drugs. Now, law enforcement wanted to keep an eye on Carr after he was released, so they got a snitch. Carr's brother-in-law, Louis Techwood, was now being paid to inform on Carr by the LAPD Red Squad. Wow. I'm going to bring that back. Yeah.

The Red Squad. What is the Red Squad? You know, hunting commies. Oh, they're the commie hunters? Yeah. They were everywhere. Communists? They still are.

Yeah, they are. They're on Twitter a lot. Yeah. They're on Twitter. Jesus Christ. I love her Twitter. One of them is running for president. I think a few.

Anyone who's not a centrist. So one. Right. You were saying Bloomberg, right? Yeah. My man. In 1969, UCLA associate professor, feminist activist, and Black Panther, Angela Davis, was fired.

Was fired for being associated with the Communist Party. This was pushed by Governor Ronald Reagan. So she. What? Guys. Our best governor. Guys. Our best governor.

Our best president. Our best president. You hiss. But in. Why are they booing? In 30 years, Trump will be seen as the new Reagan. Doesn't that feel good, everybody? Not a good feeling?

Well, I'm sorry. I didn't know what I was doing the last eight years. Mum was on the case. So but she sued and she was reinstated and given her professorship back. Then hold on. Then in June 1970, the regions fired her again this time for inflammatory language because she had said the regions quote killed, brutalized, and murdered people's park demonstrators. Which is true.

Well, still it's inflammatory language regardless. She also called the police pigs. Which is another name. She heard, George heard of her because of the firing and he had his family reach out. And she was like, I don't know who you are, give a shit. But this is before he became a solo debt brother. And then now he's become cause, he's the big cause, so she came to a court hearing. And they were introduced and instant love.

She told George she had a dream about them as lovers in combat quote, we were together fighting pigs and winning. To fucking dream. Don't wake up. That's right. The two saw the world through the same revolutionary lens. They believe in violence as a means based on a recent slaughter of peaceable South Africans. Angelus said quote, non violence is a philosophy of suicide.

Now she had owned guns since 1968. She had a 380 Browning semi-automatic. That's a nice piece. It's a beauty. I love that. Yeah. What do you like about it? Barrel's tight and you got a good trigger area.

It's got a tight barrel. Sweet handle. Yeah. Fits right in the shoulder or hand. Both potentially. Yeah. It's a pistol so. Yeah.

It's a pistol obviously. Why you would put it. Well, sometimes I like to put a pistol up here. It's called parroting where you just treat a pistol like a parrot. Actually, your shoulder takes the brunt of it. If you're in an alley fight, you want it on your shoulder. They don't say that a lot. But the grip, the heat, the ammo, the heat of it.

It's not very hot, which I like. Yeah. It's a cool gun. Huh? Like a cool gun? I wouldn't say cool, but it's not your daddy's pistol. I'll tell you that. Especially yours.

He was a drinker. It's got a nice, nice, tight fucking caboose on it. Something really. Caboose. Yeah. Bottom. Something you can really stick your hand in, get it in there. That's tight.

You said that. Easy to slip in your pants, either front or back. Not great. Great safety. Great safety on it. Great safety. Great safety. Very clear if it's on or off.

It says it right there. You can see it very clearly. Oh, that's on. Whoopsie. What was I doing? Yeah. I love the mechanics. The coil.

Spring action. Spring. It's got a spring. Yeah. Barrel. I'll tell you what. Name a better barrel. Exactly.

You can't. Colt. Colt 45. Yeah. But that's just, that's, I mean, it's a hacky one. That's like, who's your favorite comedian? Oh, you know, whoever. Like, it's hacky.

It's not a good answer. So I don't use that anymore. And I'm just telling you, if you go around gun circles, you're going to sound like a real jerk off. Yeah. Yeah, so it's got a nice, nice caboose, good heat, tight, tight trigger, sweet bullets, hot barrel, dynamite coils, sweet ass spring, and, uh, yeah, and as, uh, again, the safety just very clear.

Yeah. A lot of those safeties that they waffle, they have a few settings, you know, on, are you kind of delicate, you know, rules, heavy delicates, and then, you know, the whole thing. And then said, I like a very simple on off one of his, it's just, wait, look, if it ain't broke, thank you. Okay. Yep. A nice model.

The Panthers are back in Pasadena, George's brother, Jonathan was not handling the charges against George. Well, if convicted, George would get the death penalty. So John started an underground paper called Iskra, the spark after Lenin's Revolutionary Sheet. In it, he wrote quote, this is the era of the pig and has bad for 190 years. Ever since the second continental Congress, the American system has been ripping off the people under the protective cloak, cloak of so-called law and order.

The voracious monster can be stopped if the people rise up and crush it. Jesus Christ. That's pretty good. Anyway, I'm 17. Yeah. I'm 17. Yeah. And it's a good thing that, I mean, imagine that era.

We got away from the era of the pig, obviously. Now we're in the year of the monkey or the rat, rat, rat, see? Snake actually. Rat and snake. George assigned Jonathan to be Angela's bodyguard, 17-year-old kids now Angela's bodyguard. Angela gave Jonathan the 380 browning. One of George's early supporters was a woman named Joan Hammer, and she visited him often. She was white, good-looking, middle-aged.

He got her to bring him anything he wanted. Angela and Jonathan would stay at her house in the Bay Area when they visited George. Okay. Now, Joan also had a room rented to a blonde San Jose student who was in her early 30s from Kansas City, also middle class. Jonathan started hitting on her. She was resistant at first. Then eventually.

But then pretty soon she was pregnant. There we go. Well, something tells me you skipped over the fun step. Oh, it's good to laugh. Yeah. So in April, Angela went to Western surplus store in Los Angeles and bought a carbine with a collapsible stock, two 30-round banana clips, and 100 rounds of ammo. A month later, 100 rounds of 30-caliber ammo, the next month, an ammo and carbine, 200 rounds

of bullets, and two banana clips, yes. What's she doing? Just getting ready, protection, self-defense, self-taught. Self-taught defense. Right. Okay. Because it just sounds like a lot. Yeah.

Right, okay. So she visited San Quentin, George in San Quentin on August 3rd. This was the same day as San Quentin inmate and comrade of George's named James McClain was going on trial in Marin County for assaulting a guard. Jonathan and Angela visited George the next day, and after they went to a pawn shop and bought a shotgun with a box of shells. Okay. So what's, everything cool?

The next day, Jonathan rented a yellow Ford van from Hertz in San Francisco and drove to the Marin County courthouse. And Jonathan went into a courtroom, the courtroom, McClain's courtroom, wearing a knee-length overcoat and carrying a blue bulging briefcase. What an era where you could walk into a courtroom like that, and they wouldn't be like, eh. He's fine. Yeah. There's like no medical detectors even.

It's just like, I'm going to the courtroom. Go ahead, sir, as you were. I mean, it's August. Yeah. But again, yeah. Yeah. There's no coats. You take your jacket off, sir?

No, I'm freezing. Uh, so, uh, where am I? Sorry. San Francisco. Don't forget it. Yes, I'm in San Francisco. Uh, he didn't stay long. Uh, Jonathan left the courtroom, and then a few minutes later, he and Angela were at

a gas station across the street from the courtroom a few minutes later. This just happened to be the gas station right next to my grandparents' house. I used to steal tires out of the back and roll them down the courthouse hill into traffic. Sorry. You did? That was seamless. I thought at the end you were going to, that was going to be attributed to someone who was not you.

No, it was me. Okay. Cool. So I love that gas station. Doing your part. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so anyway, the van wasn't starting, and it was in the courthouse parking lot, and

they brought a mechanic back to the courthouse parking lot to help them, and, uh, he ended up just saying, well, you need to push start it. So as Angela smoked a black cigar, the mechanic pushed the van until it started. Now Jonathan, they drove back to visit George. Okay. Uh, Angela stayed out while, well, Jonathan went in, and after they left, they were driving out. Angela's in the passenger seat, uh, Jonathan's driving, and a convict watched them because

they were screaming at each other as they drove away. And then they went back to the courtroom, and again, he's got his, oh, he doesn't have his overcoat on. He's got a brown bag. He looks at the courtroom and then he goes back out, and then he comes back in with his overcoat and his blue bulging briefcase, but the court unexpectedly recessed for the day. Okay. So the next morning at 10 to 45 a.m., Jonathan returned to the courtroom.

Okay. And then he walked me through it. A long overcoat and a big bulging briefcase, and at this point he sat in back. Now McClellan had called fellow inmates, William Christmas, and Ruchelle McGee as witnesses who were both George's comrades in the coming revolution. Okay. Now the bailiff at this point looked at John and then he was like, all right, this is weird. This guy keeps coming in with a coat.

Outfit yesterday. Sir, you wore the same outfit yesterday. You look ridiculous. You have the same bulging briefcase with the barrel coming out the front. So the bailiff starts walking toward Jonathan. So Jonathan jumps up and pulls out the Browning 380, quote, okay, gentlemen, freeze. We're taken over. He gave the handgun to McClean and they all got guns, and then they picked five hostages.

Wow. Wow. This is the Berman Housewives from the Jury. That's the part I love. I just love these Marin County women who are just like, yeah, it's so fucking great. I'm just an alternate. They also took assistant DA, Gary Thomas, got my dad new, and the judge, Harold Haley. My dad knew.

Jonathan wanted to take a baby hostage. What? Motherfucker baby. Look at me. Oh, fucking, what's up? What's up? Baby. Goo Goo Gaga.

Oh, that's a weird hostage. You ever put a gun on a baby? Yes. It feels fucking great. It's not a bad feeling. It feels fucking great. It's not a bad feeling. Yeah.

It's America. It is America. It's legal. They're used to it. Yeah. Get them used to it. There are babies in the hospital to be able to. A lot of people talk about school shootings.

I'm the only person saying, arm the babies. Arm the babies. Arm the babies. Let them fucking just let them go. Yeah. Arm them. Yeah. Little tykes.

I think we should replace their hands with actual guns. I like that idea a lot. I have no notes on that idea. So McClain talked him out of taking the baby hostage. He also wanted to take a really old lady hostage, and McClain was like, come on, dude. McClain said... Well, one to life. Yeah.

Yeah. I don't... I don't know. I don't... That's a bit much to applaud that. McClain said, quote, I don't want to kill anybody, and Jonathan replied, well, I want to kill somebody. God, if you're a hostage, you're like, hey, do you want to take me, because I'm actually...

I don't want to be on this one anymore. I would rather that jump ship would go over there right away. McClain put a noose around the judge's neck. I mean, crazy, but probably felt real good. Yeah. And then he taped the handle of the noose to the shotgun. Then he... Oh, shit.

Okay, right. So it goes around like this. Right. And it's like... Right. Right. So the shotgun is now pointed at his chin. Right.

And it's held in place. Now they slowly move out of the courtroom. The shotgun's pointed at hostages. So if you've ever been in the Marin County Courthouse, I worked there for a little while. Super like wide open hallways. It's really wide. So there's all these sheriffs lining the hallway, and then as they walk by, they disarm the sheriffs.

Oh, yeah, one by one. Yeah, give me that gun, give me that gun. As the elevator doors shut, McClain yelled, quote, we want the Solidad Brothers freed by 12 today. Then the elevator went down to the parking lot level, and they exited the building. McClain in front with the shotgun to the judge's chin. At the Hertz van, McClain jumped behind the wheel. As he did, he told the hostages they were going to the airport where they were going

to get on an airplane. But McClain couldn't figure out how to start the van. So Jonathan got in the driver's seat and started it, McClain was in the passenger seat, and they drove out of the parking lot. Okay. The courthouse is very close to the highway. There were sheriffs and local cops everywhere. A squad of guards had also arrived from San Quentin.

The guards later said they had been on their way back from a shooting range. Right, so they're stretched out, ready to go. Quincidental? No. No? Yeah. Jonathan had a gun in his hand, and he's holding it out the window as he drives. Well, that's a tell.

That's a tell. I think it's them. I think that's the van. Doesn't it look like them? No, you want to get a yellow van and point a gun out of it. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, a big yellow Hertz van. So now, prison guards in this situation are not trained like other law enforcement.

They're literally trained to not see hostages. Oh, what? Oh, yeah, of course. Right. If anybody takes a hostage, it doesn't matter. Yeah, it's another prison. One of the guards shot, then everyone started shooting. Jonathan was shot in the hand, which he pulled in, then the shotgun went off.

By the way, that's a good lesson to learn. Yeah. Keep that hand in. Your parents always say it. Yeah. Put your hand in the fucking car. If you haven't got it in your hand, keep it in the car. Yeah.

Always. Oh, they just go on and on. All right, guys, someday you'll be driving with a pistol in your hand. Keep them in. Treat it like a train. Treat it like a train? Yeah, treat it like a train. You're going to be upset when you're older and you didn't treat it like a train.

Mark my words. My words. My words, my words. Then the shotgun went off and the judge's face was blown off. Oh, what? What? I like how one guy laughed really hard. Yeah.

What? You should have said speed bumps. So now, Adam, are we, I'm assuming the judge is no longer, yeah, he's gone. Right. Okay. It's, yeah, this parts, the head parts. It's off. Now, when he pulled the, when his hand got shot with a gun, he'd taken it and put it

on the like hump between the seats, okay. Then DA quote, I turned to my right and took the gun from Jackson's hand, which was lying over the hump in the middle of the van. I fired a shot at Jackson. McClain was moving toward the left side toward the front and I shot him in the back. I turned and fired a shot in the area of Christmas and then I shot McGee in the chest. I shot once and he was moving and I tried to shoot again, but the gun clicked and he stopped moving.

This is why you take the baby instead of the DA. Yeah, fair, fair, fair, holds up. He says in DA quote, I yell, I yelled out of the van, stop firing, please stop firing. And right then at the same time I felt the pain in my back, my legs gave out and I crumpled down. A cop had shot him in the back. The blood flowed out of the van and pulled on the street. The judge's head and face were splattered on everyone inside and all over the walls

of the van. Oh, my, what Jonathan McClain, sorry, hold on. There is just judge's judge face splattered all over the interior of the van. No judge. Yeah, judge face. Oh, oh my God, just don't prepare yourself for that kind of van ride. You don't Jonathan McClain and Christmas were dead McGee was seriously wounded. His assistant DA was paralyzed for life and for legs.

This would become known as the Marin County shootout. My dad was in the building and he was an assistant DA and he quit I think the next week. I like how he hung in there for a week. You know, I just take it back to last week. Maybe this isn't the spot for me anymore. Jonathan was given a full Black Panther funeral in Oakland in the van. They found an M1 carmine and a briefcase full of ammo which investigators traced to Angela. A week after she was charged with being an accomplice to murder, but she had already vanished.

Now later it turned out Jonathan was not supposed to have acted alone. A Black Panther squad car had been training in the Santa Cruz Mountains was supposed to back him up. And then another squad at the same time was supposed to hijack a plane at San Francisco airport which they would then trade the hostages for George and they would all fly to Cuba. Okay, right. I was assuming there was a heartbeat of the plan. But Huey Newton thought the cops were on to the plan and pulled out at the last minute.

Jonathan then decided to do it alone which might be why he and Angela were screaming each other in the van. What was his plan as far as the airport then? He didn't have one. Let's go buy six tickets. Yeah, there. Do you have anything next to each other too? That's kind of important, especially for an old judge here.

Yeah, Cuba. We were like to go to Cuba. Cuba? Yeah. There's also rumors of a second possible plan in which a car was waiting a few blocks away and they would switch fans, then go to the airport which was where the Black Panther was hijacking. But they hadn't.

They had to go to Algeria instead of Cuba. Either way, George blamed Huey for Jonathan's death. The car argued with Newton and threatened to kill him. Angela went into hiding. On October 13, 1970, FBI agents found her car at a Howard Johnson Motor Lodge in New York City and she was arrested and held in solitary. Thousands of people around the country organized for a release. There were 200 committees in the U.S. and 67 in other countries.

John Lendon and Yoko Ono wrote a song for her. Shut up. What song? What song? I just, I don't know, I don't remember what it was called, who fucking cares. Shut up, Yoko. I finally found someone to be mad at in this story. Yeah, I mean, honestly, Yoko Ono's the one you're pissed at.

An enforcement judge face splattered around a van like an experiment. That goddamn Yoko Ono. So sick of her. Yoko Ono, who really hasn't done anything for 30 years as far, it's like stepping on the Beatles legacy, but still, dear she. Well, they both annoy me, honestly, Lendon, Yoko. Yeah, they kind of did become one force. Fucking peace fucking or whatever they did.

Shut up. They weren't peace fucking. They did a lay in. What? They did a lay in, a bed in, a sit in, a lay down. For what? Well, for peace. It worked, asshole.

Fuck, it worked. Yeah, look at the world now, net one more. Rich white guy. Do you have how to change the world? Look at a good bed. Fuck. Boy, that really is the white guy way. That is so true.

I'm going to protest by watching Seinfeld all the time, sir. Shut the fuck up. How many strikes do we have to call to put pitching all night? Someone tweeted the other day. I always love it when, when Gareth finally snaps until someone to shut the fuck up. It's like bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad, bad. George wasn't done trying to escape, so he could lead the revolution. In January 1971, Kara was staying at Betsy Hammer's house and she dropped off a pair

of pants at Santa Cruz dry cleaners. Sounds pretty normal so far. The owner's daughter went through the pockets and found a letter. She gave it to her father, her father read it, and he gave it to the sheriff's department. It became known as the pants pocket letter. This is the PPL? The Famous. Wow.

You know where we found it? In the Tuxedo pants pocket. Yeah, shit. Yes. Tuxedo pants pocket. Sorry. Sorry. It's probably named it that way.

Yeah. It felt pretty good when we came up with it. You guys really knocked it out of the park, really. Yeah. Anyway, that's all we did. We haven't read it. We just found it. Can I have my sandwich, sir?

The letter was written, it was a back and forth between George and Kara, and it laid out an elaborate military style. It's a terrible thing to leave in the dry cleaning. As far as things you forget, people are like, I left a 20 in there. Oh, my weed's in there. She's like, oh, I left evidence to get put me away forever in there. I should go back. Ah, fuck it.

It's probably on the little, at this point. Hey, I left something in the, no, the other pocket, the crime pocket. Could you take that out? This is the evidence rack of clothes. We can't give that to you. No, that has a, it's got a whole plan about a revolution. Do you have your ticket? No.

Oh, well then. I just dropped it off. My name's Hammer. Oh, that's a tool. Not a name. No, it is. Joan Hammer. Well, let's see if you have a ticket.

What is that? It's how I celebrate. What are you celebrating? You're nothing. She said you're going to nothing. What? Nothing. You're going to jail.

What? Nothing, nothing. Oh my fuck. Did you read the letter? No. What letter? The one in the pants pocket. The crime pocket.

The letter. Uh-uh. You mean the correspondence? You're going to have a ticket soon enough, Missy. Okay, I'm going to, I'm going to go behind where you can't see anymore. Okay. Right back here. You can kind of see me through some of the clothes, but not totally.

Here, hold on. Let me move. I'll move this wedding dress in front of me. Now you can't see shit. Am I even here anymore? Yeah. I can see your feet. The clothes, I'm going out of the fucking ground.

I can see everything from your thighs down. Do you like how my thighs look? Yeah. Yeah, a lot. I've been doing a lot of squats. Fuck yeah, you have. Well, this has had a lot of turns in it. So the letter laid out an elaborate military style attempt to break George out of prison

and head into the Sierra Nevada mountains where they would gather their rebels to fight against the United States government. All right, take the plan out. Oh no. You're not going to believe this. I think it's in my other pants. Fuck, those are my revolutionary pants. On April 6, 1971, there was a pre-child hearing for the Soledad brothers.

George wanted to be switched to the San Francisco jail so he could be closer, the judge denied it. Then George leapt up on a chair and started chanting power of the people and death to pigs. All right, fine. You make a great case there, George, go ahead. And then his supporters in the courtroom started chanting along with him. And then they tried to take George out of the courtroom and a Black Panther tried to

hand him a Black Panther newspaper and a guard went to grab it and elbowed George and then George did some karate and karate chopped the guard. And then all the cops piled on George and then all the supporters came running in to help. Oh my God. And they had to cop. So it's a bench clearing brawl in the courtroom. Yeah.

And then they call in a tactical squad to come in and put an end to it. And a bunch of guys were arrested, including James Carr, who had violated his parole and James Carr went back to prison. Okay. And so that was the guy that was going to in charge of the breakout right outside. April 20th, 1971, George's son, sorry, Jonathan's son was born. George was elated, quote, I want to see him as soon as possible. I have some literature for him.

Wait a minute. I know he's beautiful and evil. I mean, reading that, well, that's, does he sing evil? I can't. Terrible world he inherits. His first word should be, all right, everyone freeze. I'm taking over. That's a lot for a baby to say.

I mean, it's ambitious. I mean, first words. Well, we're his first words and he said, hot dog, God, we lost them early. Well start again. We'll try with the next one. This one's not worth it. And in the summer of 1971, things got heated between Angela and George. They got a court order that allowed her to visit for legal conferences related to their

trial. Mm hmm. They met three times at San Quentin in the dining room. The first meeting was seven and a half hours. The guard on duty, quote, they engage in what can only be described as sex, lascivious, as a lascivious embrace lasting approximately 10 minutes. Both parties took delight in folding each other with the obvious intention to sexually arouse each other.

They both finished as did the guards on duty. They spent two hours kissing and she climbed on his lap. I mean, I'm not sure what the protocol is, but you're probably supposed to not let them do that. But he's just like, I am writing this down. She's the legal counsel, right? This is a legal strategy. Are you inside your legal counsel?

Uh, guilty. The guards report was then sent to the FBI and the FBI distributed it throughout the agency with the headline obscene. Oh, for God's sake, good Lord. Oh, wow. Yeah, they were sitting on each other's laps. Well, this wasn't worth reading. On this time, George was interviewed by the New York Times and during the interview,

he told the reporter, quote, truth is I plan to escape. You're not any kind of a big paper or anything, right? One of George's lawyers was Steve Begum. He met the warden to discuss who could visit George. The warden, quote, he came in dressed in combat fatigues, smoking a cigarette, and he looked like Castro, like he would have liked to have been in the vanguard of the Cuban revolution. He had an attitude we'd seen a lot then he harbored a great deal of anger. He treated us with contempt as if we were despicable people unbelievable.

George met with tons of lawyers. He met with 17 that summer and Steve was enamored with George. He knew, and George knew how to pour it on for Steve's type. On August 1st, the day of the New York Times interview was published, two of George's sisters went to visit him. They brought three kids with them. The oldest was a boy of 12 who set off the battle detector. The guard asked what he had, and the boy said, I have a toy gun.

Then he pulled out a toy pistol that was strapped to his leg. Like any 12-year-old, you fucking strapped that shit. It was metal and looked very much like a real 22. Hey, they're really making these very realistic lately, huh? Where'd you get this? Gun store. So the gun store sells toy guns? Yeah.

Look at that. Oh, put it in your mouth. Yeah, yeah, pull the trigger, it's funny, it's funny, it squirts sugar. It squirts sugar stuff. Oh, I'm diabetic, otherwise I would. If you hadn't said that sugar part, I'd pulled that trigger, too. Well, next time, son. You want a squirt?

Nope. All right, there you go, kiddo. Get in there, you little scamp. There's a bunch of little candy bullets falling out from your pain leg. The guard asked the other kids if they had toy guns, and they said they did. I have a toy machine gun, and I have chocolate grenades. One was just a plastic gun that shot discs, and the other was a.22 caliber starter pistol with a revolving chamber.

Okay, so. The warden thought this was a dry run to see if they could get guns into George. Lynn Irbank was a white woman who was into the Panthers. One day, two Panthers came to her home to see her, and they asked if she was smuggled George to test tubes of nitroglycerin by putting them in her vagina. Yes. I will. Is there anything else I need to do?

I can get some more stuff in there if you need it. What else do we need to get to him? Will I come? Lynn would later say she refused because it was too dangerous to put explosives in her vagina. I guess I never saw it from that angle. I guess it is. Yeah, that makes sense.

On August 8th, there was agitation between guards and inmates at San Quentin. The other two solid-out brothers were involved, and George was pissed. He wrote to them, quote, I've been bringing weapons in with every visit, and in two weeks exactly, there will be a violent confrontation with weapons against the pigs. Is this letter in the dry cleaner pocket? Oh, damn it. Hidden in a cell, there was a pipe, a.22 caliber bullet, and everything to make a zip gun hidden in a block of cheese.

Okay, sure, sure, sure. Johnny Spain had five shotgun shells, a.22 caliber cartridge, and 1338 cartridges in a hollowed-out bars of soap. And they had two vials of liquid explosives. Whoa, all right, so someone stepped up. Yeah. Someone had a vagina with some courage. On August 21st, lawyer Steve made a last-second visit to George.

He came with a Black Panther woman named Vanita Anderson, who was one of George's legal advisers. Now, Vanita had an attaché case, and the guards searched it. But then they wouldn't let Vanita in, because they'd been restricting George's visitors. So this was the second time in a week, so some arbitrary rule they made up. So she told Steve she was there to help George write the last chapter of his second book and to take the attaché case in in case he wanted to record. There's a recorder in it. Now he goes in.

As George walks to the visitor's room, he looked in the mirror and flipped his afro, which was five or six inches high, which was new. He usually had his hair close cropped. After his visit with Steve, he headed back to his cell with a guard escort. Inmates were always searched after a visit, a standard procedure, including running their hands through an inmate's hair. Now the guard in this case was not known for strictly following rules. And George knew this.

His hair was not searched. Wow. So he's just got a stash on his afro. He's got a stash bro. As they crossed the chapel plaza, two guards in another building were watching, and they discussed how much larger George's hair looked today. He's got like Phil Spector hair. This is huge today.

It's quite an afro, George has. It's humid. It's really poofing out. Entering the AC, so the AC is the place where all the really, really badass prisoners are kept. Okay. Two white inmates were locked into the kitchen to avoid trouble. And as he walked in, George saw a guard he hated, who he considered to be a traitor against

his own people. The guard was Chicano and a known asshole. And he was like, now you search prisoners when they leave the visiting room, and you search them when they come into the block. So he goes up to search George. And George stopped. And as the guard patted him down, he looked up and noticed something shiny in George's hair.

I can't believe he's got this in his hair still. He thought it was a pencil and he asked George twice, got a shiny silver gun like pencil in your hair. The hell is that? He asked George twice, what's that in your hair? And George said nothing. So the guard reached up and poked it. But whatever it was, didn't move because it was so heavy.

And then George reached up and pulled on the back of his hair, believe that he's and the guard realized he had a wig on and suddenly George was holding a nine millimeter pistol. Oh my God. That he took out of under a wig that was on his head. Wow. This is the greatest plan ever. All four guards that were there just stared in disbelief. I mean, yeah.

Did you just? Yeah, that was really good. That was really, that's awesome. That was really good. That was really, really good. That was really good. George said, quote, all right, gentlemen, this is it. I'm taking over.

The dragon has come. I would be very scared. George had the guards lie on their stomachs in the foyer and yelled at his fellow inmates, quote, the black dragon has come to free you. Our plans have changed. It's now or never. We've got to stick together, comrades. If you're with me, go to the doors of your cell.

If you're not, don't come out. Yes, who's with you? Everybody. Yeah. The guards opened the cell doors. Soon there were 30 convicts loose. Three guards were tied up with pillowcases put over their heads and then their throats were slit.

Holy shit. Guys, it's a revolution. The white inmates were killed and then more guards. When the guards didn't return to other parts of the prison, the sergeant wanted to know what the holdup was. Another guard came to look and peaked in the window, and there he saw George pointing a gun right at him and sang to open the door. So the guard dropped right as George shot, and he missed, and then the guard got away

and sounded the alarm. George knew the revolution was over. Very quick revolution. Yeah, when you don't get outside of the building, it's a really shitty revolution. It's tough, yeah. An indoor revolution. The first real revolution is to get outside of the building. Arm guards were getting into position.

George didn't want all his comrades to die, and he said, quote, it's me they want and kicked open the AC door, running into the plaza, gun in hand. Spain ran out behind him. George shot. I mean, you're in a very dramatic moment. In a final act of aggressive nature. Why did I eat spam? Something George would have made it if he hadn't tried to fart but shit.

George shot at a guard on the rail above. George sharded at a guard. And then he ran, and as he was turning around the corner of a building, a guard shot at George and hit him in the ankle, shattering the bone. George just stumbled and then kept running. Oh, my God, running? Yeah, running. He was just like, fuck that.

It's just a shattered ankle. Oh, my God. Gotta do more than that, bitch. By the way, that guard, too. I did pretty good, sir. Where'd you get him? Chest? Ankle.

Yeah, he's not going to be able to wear that pair of shoes for too long. So he kept running and ran another 30 yards down the driveway. An expert sharpshooter was just waiting. And from 80 yards away, he fired one shot. It entered through George's lower back, traveled up, fracturing three ribs through his neck, threw the right lobe of his brand and out his skull. George was dead before he hit the ground. What kind of shot?

Was he like, in blank? Yeah, it's like a fucking crazy Kennedy killing shot. Like a miracle. Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. Some of these guys, they combine shooting with pinball. Well, by your sound effects, that came across.

Spain jumped and hid in some bushes, but that's where he was. So they ordered him to crawl out. Okay. Spain came out and laid a glass vial wrapped in black tape on the ground. Oh, be careful with that goddamn thing. You'll kill us all. And it's been in a vagina. They searched George, who also had a vial.

They both thought it was nitroglycerin, but it was just water and hydrochloric acid. Well, just in the, in the A.C., the inmates yelled that they had hostages and Lieutenant yelled back, hostages don't mean shit. That's tough to hear. When you're in that position, we'll kill him. A guard shot a machine gun at the back wall and then two guards came out, one from under the pile of the other guards bodies, and they were both just covered in blood. And then they realized there's no way they had hostages because those guys were alive.

Right. Barely. And they, they told all the prisoners to take off their clothes and come out and they did. One guard then shot one of the inmates in the ass. Okay. This was the inmate who had refused to kill George and shooting him in the ass was payback. Prison rules?

I don't know. You know why I did that? I do. Yes. Because I do. I know prison rules. You got me. A deal's a deal.

I should have been on ghoul. Then the entire prison revolted. Prisoners refused to go back to their cells. They set fires. They resisted all orders. Guards shot their rifles all day. San Quentin became a war zone and for a while it looked like the guards might lose complete control of the prison, but they finally got it back.

Angela Davis was tried in Santa Clara in front of an all white jury. They found her innocent. When's the last time that happened in America? Then Steve Bingham was on the run in Europe for 13 years. He eventually surrendered in San Francisco. He claimed he had been framed and he was tried and acquitted. Today Angela Davis is an American political activist, philosopher, academic and author. She is a retired professor at University of Santa Cruz.

The Black Gorilla family became less political and today is one of the most feared violent gangs in the prison system. They still believe the revolution is coming though. Yeah. Wow. Jesus Christ. It's been quite a, kind of makes me want to go to prison for a little while, isn't it? Exciting, isn't it?

Shit. All these people thought that he was just killed in prison. It became this big cause, they were, he was fucking murdered, but no one, they did just kill guards and put him in a pile. Yeah. I know, but it's like, you can, you can keep tracing that back further and further. I mean, it's just like, you create conditions where. No, you, they made him, they made, they made their monster.

And you, and I mean, we talked about it before, like if you put someone in solitary, solitary confinement is just, it should be illegal. It's unacceptable treatment of any human life. So it is like. It's considered torture in many countries. Yeah. And it is. So, you know, as we were alluding to before, if you have a system that's set up for profit,

then of course you're going to not give a shit, like the people's, you know, really, if your job is to just make money and keep generating more and more bodies, more and more bodies, you're just going to give less and less of a shit because it's more and more of a business. And that just takes you to the point where there's like, you, there's no value of human life. So if you put people in places where they're totally alone, you can't piece them back together. Right.

Like you've, you've broke it. You broke it. You, you know, it's your fucking fault. And we just, they're like, okay, we're doing that. It's your fault specifically. The fuck did I do? You did a lot of dumb shit, but yeah. The black, I wish I could remember exactly what happened, but the black gorilla family,

there is a guard, it was like in Baltimore recently, where something happened and he got busted, but he had gotten like five female guards pregnant. Oh wow. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Got some fucking moves. What's your pickup line, dude?

Cause I need to learn some shit. Yeah. Well, I don't. I'm married. Yeah. Yeah. You really sent it into that. Yeah.

That got weird. Yeah. It's Valentine's Day. What an honor. Yeah. Five strong. Five strong, and I do think that like, you know, there is such a class and race problem in this country and you just hear shit like that and you're just like, yeah, I mean, it

is same shit different year over and over and over again. I mean, the seventies were a little more crazy. Yeah. But you should all, you should all look up Marin County shoot out and just look at the pictures because there's just, there were photographers in the hallway. So as they walk out with the gun against the judge and stuff, they're just, it's crazy. And Jonathan looks so fucking young. You're like, oh my God, that's a kid.

Yeah. That's a kid. That part is crazy. Yeah. Well, I, you know, we started off depressing and we book ended it nicely. So that's cool. That's fun. Yeah.

But it's just nice to read about a place where I grew up and I really would. That night I would take tires out of the gas station and go up on the hill and roll them down. And boy, drivers really can hit their brakes hard. Well at least you did your part, Dave. Thank you guys so much for coming out. We appreciate it. Thank you guys.

Love you. We'll be back. Thank you.