The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 434 - Timothy Leary - Part 2

Episode Date: June 16, 2020

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the dollop on the All Things Comedy Network. This is a bicycle podcast where each week I, Gareth Reynolds, oven mitt wearer, bath taker, shaker of martinis. Oh my god. Reads the second part of a story from American history to my lovely friend. David Anthony who has no idea what the story is going to be about. Spoiler. It's gonna be connected to last week's. I would just like to say I feel like when I do that I put some life into it and I put some energy and I put some love. I don't agree. Don't agree. What I just did was performance. It was perfect. Unbelievable. Okay. What you did was like was like watching a seal die in

the desert. That's how that's why would I take my cat to the desert asshole? I'm just saying you know you will at some point and that's how Jose ends. You know what? There's gonna be the best part about that. He'll be burying his poop all over. What the fuck does that even mean? It has. How much poop does he have? Let's let's start. That's like watching a man give up. Because that's what it was. And called it quote his jam patch. I'm the fucking hippo guy. My name's Gary. My name's Gary. Wait. Is it for fun? And this is not going to come to Tickly Podcast. Okay. This is like an a five-part coefficient. Now hit him with a puppy. You both present sick arguments.

No sleep, no hippo. That's like no hippo. Actually partner. Hi, Gary. No. I think we can say that I have a COVID laugh. Yeah. You've had a COVID laugh before COVID. No, no, I was the first COVID laugh for sure. Yeah. All right, David. Let's have another rip. Pass it to the left. 1969. So like I said, it's 1969. Richard Nixon is in charge. He stacked his administration with loyalists, elevating those who had his back and firing those who didn't. Among his loyal people were the previously mentioned maniac, G. Gordon Liddy, who led the busts of learies at his Millbrook Haven. Now, you know this, Dave, but maybe some don't. Nixon had inherited the Vietnam War and the country was pissed. There was violence, aggressive activism in

the streets in the country. Sounds crazy, I know. During the same time period, inmate 2635 aka Timothy Leary had been serving his sentence in the Orange County Jail. But on May 13th, 1970, he was transferred to CMC West in San Luis Obispo, a minimum security facility with mostly older criminals. He's tried by all the time going to school. Okay. So Leary intentionally gets himself placed there by manipulating the psychological tests that he basically came up with. So they're like trying to see where his head at as far as his future. And he's like, Oh, I basically wrote these questions. When did he write these? This is back. He came up with this thing called the leery circle, I believe. Like he he had

a number of breakthroughs. Genuine thing. Like he was he was known for his psychology, for sure. Like he was on the radar. But he came up with this thing called the leery circle, I think, which kind of matched it matched different parts of your personality with it was just kind of a way to make connections about personality and behavior. But it was it's also claimed that he ripped that off and he just took someone else's idea and put it in a circle and he just kind of marketed it. But but either way, there were a number of things like he wrote papers and stuff and people are like, you know, but but this this test was probably based around something like that. And so he was just like, Oh, I know

exactly what they're asking me. So he just fills it out so that it's kind of tailoring him to go to this place. So as he's led into the building, the jailer informed Tim that here they called it, they were called dormitories and not cells. And oh boy, was Tim in the right place. So they had guards there, they had sharp shooters like a signal to start fucking. Well, actually, he did fuck while he was there. I'm not he there is some some woman who I can't remember what he said, but he said she was as wet as an octopus was the way. Yeah, yeah. Oh my god. So it was a horrifying thing. I thought I'd leave out. You pushed me. You pushed me. You pushed me here. You pushed me here. So they have guards, they have

sharp shooters, but really the only barrier is a 12 foot high barbed wire fence outside. Right. So I've seen it. So you'll attest to this. So it's basically what we put around the White House, but half. So Rosemary is trying to raise money for Tim. So she has a fundraiser in New York. And she does it with Jimmy Hendricks. But sadly, the event was a bust. Someone put acid in the punch. Jim Morrison read some Jim Morrison read some really weird poetry and people freaked out and hid under tables afraid of purple lizards. I mean, do not do not go to any sort of Timothy Larry function. If you don't want to get dosed, you're going to get dosed. Can you imagine seeing that lineup and being like,

oh, punch. I'm sure this is fine. Yeah, there's certainly no tasteless or odorless chemicals inside of this punch. And the cool thing about punch, it means it's liquid acid, which is much more powerful. And if you just drink more, if you just happen to be really thirsty, well, then you're going to be out of your mind. I tell you, I'm going to go for another round of that great punch. That's your eighth, Alan. I love it, dear. Honey, why are you a spider? He just runs through a wall. Oh, dear. So the event was a total shit show. They raised $5,000, but the event cost eight to put on. So I don't know much about economics, but I think that's good. It's not good. Oh, okay. So Rosemary could clearly see that

Tim had realized he was in a very bad spot. Rosemary, quote, he was coming up with some pretty crazy schemes. Why couldn't I get a helicopter with a grappling hook and have a yacht waiting offshore? End quote. So Tim now has a new lead lawyer named Michael Kennedy. Michael Kennedy was 33 and he had a horseshoe mustache. Once after winning a case, the prosecutor smugly said to Kennedy, quote, well, Mr. Kennedy, it looks like we'll be trying the clients of yours all over again. We'll do better next time. And Kennedy replied, is that what you think, shithead? Why don't you and I step outside right now and settle this? Oh my God. That's me. Oh, I finally entered the story. We completely have you. 100%. So Nixon, meanwhile,

is going nuts in the White House on May 4th at noon under a fog of tear gas at Kent State, country guardsmen, gas masks armed with bayoneted rifles start moving to disperse a crowd of several hundred students peacefully protesting. Within 24 minutes, it was mayhem. 13 seconds, Gardman had unloaded 67 shots of the crowd. Now four students were dead. Nine were wounded and among them one paralyzed from the waist down just like that. So yes. So the people who are supposed to be doing controlling the law actually did the violence. Yeah, crazy, right? Wow. The protectors. Strange. I never heard of that. I'll tell you, Dave, it certainly doesn't feel like we've been talking about this shit for six years. So a radical group

known as the weathermen, eventually the weather underground had released a declaration of state of war in it. They had stated, quote, revolutionary violence is the only way, unquote. Now Nixon is freaked out. But luckily for Tim, the weather underground were looking to bust him out because it would, quote, be a real poke in the eye to California and the drug laws, a big fuck you, unquote. Now in jail, let me just say, as far as revolutionary ideas, this is super off the path. This is busting a guy who's into acid at a jail is not part of the revolution. Yeah, it truly isn't. It's it again, I mean, you just like you even hear the realm of thought and you're just like, why are you going down? Why are

you doing this one? They're like, it's completely absurd. It just it's like it's just like it's what it's what I imagine a think tank is. It's just a bunch of shitheads just agreeing on a shitty thing together. Well, the weather, but mostly a bunch of privileged white dudes who got into the revolution. So oh, I was talking more about Nixon. Sorry, I didn't know you're talking about the weather. Yeah, no, yes, for sure. The weather underground is not without fault for sure. So so in jail, Tim meets a prison prisoner, not a president. That's Nixon. He's not he's not in jail with him. That'd be fun. That comes later. That's later. Yeah. Well, I guess I owe you when I'm sorry. As he hands him his cornbread at

dinner, we're gonna have my cornbread if you make it up to you. I feel pretty terrible about all that stuff that my shot your way. Yes, you do a good Nixon. Well, I been thinking about him a lot lately. So he meets Tim meets a prisoner named Bellinger, who told him that he knew the ins and the outs of the place. Now Tim's intrigued. Bellinger said in order to escape the prison, Tim needed to get his ass in shape first. June 5 1970. Nixon is not on acid. But he's acting like he might be. He eats his usual lunch cottage cheese and a stack of pineapple rings. He's already right there. You're a fucking lunatic. You're a fucking lunatic. You know, you're eating cottage cheese and pineapples and you're the president.

You're out of your pineapple rings, rings, rings. It's a crazy meal. But then you can put the rings in a stack and then you can put the cottage cheese in them. So it's just sort of like the core of your pineapple earth. It's a shit meal. It's lazy. It's bad. It's not good. Cottage cheese can also go fuck itself. Okay, I think we finally agree. That is the lunch. Well, he's also drinking like crazy. Like at night, he's drinking like nuts. I mean, I don't even know if you know that you probably know the story, but he basically when they're after Kent State, they're protesting and he is just shitfaced. And so he goes, he basically at 3 30 in the morning calls his valet named, I can't remember his name.

I can't remember his name, but he and he tells him to take him to the Lincoln Memorial. He gets out of his car. He gets out of Lincoln Memorial at 4am. And there's like protesters sleeping all over and he like wakes some of them up and he just starts shooting the shit with them. And they're just like, what is going on? And he's hammered. He's just like, so you guys probably think I'm a pretty bad guy, you know, and they're just like, what? They're like wiping sleep out of their eyes, you know, and then, and then he starts talking about surfing. He's like, you gentlemen surf and they're like, yeah, we kind of surf. He's like, you know, they have pretty good surfing up there on the coast over there, you know,

and they're just like, what? And then he's like reigned in, you know, so anyway, so, but he's, he's crazy. So he's drinking like nuts. And recently he's been seen on the White House lawn with a secret by a secret service agent when he's with his dog whose name is King Timmahoe and Nixon pulls out a dog biscuit, sniffs it and eats it himself. So look, have you ever snipped a dog biscuit? I have and they're absolutely horrifying and it's almost impossible not to pop it in your mouth after you sniff a dog biscuit. Imagine the secret service guy being like, I was going to give his dog a treat. Oh my God, he ate it. I need to get a new job. I need to leave this job. What's this a rawhide bone? I don't mind me.

I had pineapple and pig's ears. So that went a little danger field. Boy, I tell you, people don't respect me. 1970 July, Tim is playing a lot of handball to get in shape for whatever this elaborate prison break is the belliger has. So once he's out, he will join the weather underground. Then he'll leave the country. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought you said Tim is playing a lot of handball to get in shape. Yep. He's playing a lot of handball in prison to get in shape. That's the kind of facility he's at. Do you know what I mean? Like, how out of the realm of reality is that now? Oh, no. Even if you're getting in shape in prison, you're fucking doing a whole workout thing with this is the person that if they weren't

going to kill Epstein, he would have gone to. Yeah. So so that's the plan. The plan is called juju eyeballs based off of the Come Together lyric. And the truth is what it has. It has an it has a name. The plan to escape has a name. Yeah, juju eyeballs, baby. What the fuck is happening? Juju eyeballs. Look, we can't just call it getting out. We gotta have a really good. It really is insane because he's literally only talking to Rosemary who could just, you know, it's like, I mean, I guess it's for them on the inside, but still, you just get Tim out. So the truth is, the weather underground would have preferred to break out a bigger criminal, but Tim's prison seemed pretty easy and they needed

the money he's paying for it. They're paying like, okay, they're paying like 25 grand to do it. Where the fuck did you get that money? She Rosemary like raises the eternal sunshine dudes are they constantly step up. So they constantly anytime he needs money, they get it together. And I'm pretty sure they got this money together to pay the weather. Okay. So, so Tim finally it's all set. So he goes up to Belanger and he insists what's the secret of escaping. So Belanger leads him to the fence and he says softly, while the guards go and make their coffee, Tim needs to climb the fence, claw through the barbed wire with his hands, land on the other side and roll down a hill. And Tim is speechless that the

elaborate idea well thought out plan is quite simply neither of those things. Yeah, I would actually but he's pet. So this guy, and this has a this has a name juju eyeballs. Is that what it is? No, that's not juju eyeballs. That's so so juju eyeballs starts once he leaves and the escape but Tim has to figure his own way out. So Belanger is his conduit to but he's like cryptically like, I'll get you out of here. And then he's like, you got to put barbed wire through your hands and he's like, that's just not a plan. Look, it's full proof, man. All you got to do is climb the fence and roll down the hill. Look, run full speed through the fence. Here's the thing. Once you drop down on the other side, start

yelling, I'm a barrel. I'm a barrel and roll down and they're going to think this guy's a barrel. They're not going to go they're not going to think you're a dude. Let me ask you this, if that's the plan, why have you not done this plan? If that's such a good plan. If you know that this is a perfect plan. Fuck man. I'm allergic to barbed wire. I have been since I was a kid. Everybody's allergic. I'm super allergic. Like if I go through barbed wire, I get cuts and everybody that's what barbed wire is. That's barbed wire. I 've been allergic to barbed wire a long time. You should listen to this podcast because they talked about it. What I'm also not. I have a I have a spinal condition which doesn't

allow me to roll down hills. So this is a great I would do this in a fucking heartbeat, right? Except you're allergic to barbed wire. You're one of those freaks who barbed wire cuts his hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah, man. I can't go through it. If I go through it, I come out the other side of bloody mess. And that's just that's just I'm glad I waited a couple months to get this. That's good. Thank you for that. That's awesome. I'm not gonna eat lunch with you any longer, by the way. Oh, can I have your cottage cheese? Yep, absolutely. That is a huge red flag. Okay, so September 12. After the 815 p.m. final headcount, Tim gets his shoes, changes to black laces. He puts on his handball gloves that he's painted

black. So and he sneaks out the door, which sounds pretty easy. So he sneaks out a door. And are you listening to me, David? Yes, he sneaks out a door. Okay, so he sneaks out the door. He climbs a tree. He gets on the roof. And then there's this heavy black cable that runs from the roof to the fence. So he with no time he grabs it and he begins to kind of, you know, pull himself along the cable. What kind of a setup is this? The setup is insane. Why do they have like a road runner Acme escape system set up at a jail? If you heard this today, you'd be like, this is guards just want to shoot people. Like the but he I couldn't figure out anything. He snuck out a door like right off the bed. It's like,

he's not going to door climb the tree got on a roof and started going across on a black rope like it's like, it's literally the worst. I bet you there was a sign with an arrow that said escape route. So so he gets the cable with no time to lose. He grabs these pulling himself along. And as he's making his way along, he realizes what was the point of getting in shape if he was continuing to smoke. So he's like getting gassed so much further than he thought. So he's going through the plan in his head for when he gets over the fence. So he goes over the fence, he gets a highway one finds this car with the hazards on near these three trees. And Tim's code name is Nino. So that's what he's got. So

he gets it out. He makes it over the fence. He goes to where they are. He meets up with them. He changes his clothes. And he gives his prisoner jumpsuit to a car that's headed south to throw the cops off while he gets another clothes heads north, which I guess had not been done a lot back then because now that seems like the no brainer. But also heading south, there's not there's like two miles of road before you get to the town. So they think that he's going to San Luis Obispo. No, they were trying to make him think that that he was going to LA. That's because they went they went and threw they threw the clothes out like, you know, an hour down the way so that they built a high he's headed this way.

Okay. So then after the escape, Tim and the weather underground released the statement and Tim ended it with warning. I should be considered armed and dangerous to anyone who threatens my life or my freedom, which was quite a change from the Tim Leary that had been preaching love so much earlier. Well, it's like it's 1970 now. So it's a different time. It's a gear shift. That's right. It's time to get violent. That's right. So Dick, who had now Dick Alpert, who had now gone to India, had a spiritual breakthrough and now was known simply as Baba Ramdas said, I got I got to go. Said, said, quote, one more thing we do not need is one more nut with a gun. I can't believe that's what's crippling you.

Oh, shit. Well, so listen, Ramdas Ramdas is he you'll there's there's not a lot more about him. But Ramdas is an amazing person. He Dick Alpert became Ramdas and he became such a he just spoke he became what you would have imagined Tim Leary would have become like where Tim kind of becomes this criminalist kind of criminalistic guy. Ramdas is like floating on clouds like in front of people going like you need to breathe easier and everyone's like Ramdas. So Tim's Leary Tim McLeary's message sent shocks of worry through the Nixon White House. Nixon worried that this would inspire more to join the weather underground. And it could go all the way to the White House gates. Imagine Treasury Secretary

John Connelly told Nixon he needed quote, a bad guy. They decided they wanted Gordon Liddy. They decided they wanted to link Leary with all of the drug culture at the time. Nixon labeled him quote, the most dangerous man in America. And after he'd done that, oh my God, this guy is the most dangerous man in America. Jesus fucking Christ. He's literally just getting people high. Why don't you fucking relax America. Keep in mind they're in America is in Vietnam. Like that's right. What your balls but he okay so he's like he's the most dangerous man in America. And that's actually Kissinger. Well who's close. And then once he comes up with that they all start chanting and laughing

and going Leary, Leary, Leary. So anyway Tim's out right. So Tim now needs a new identity. So he heads to Utah where Bill Ayers forged a birth certificate, a social security card and a hunting license for him. Tim shaved his head to appear balding. Donda Brown suit looked like a total square. Three hours later, Tim had a passport. Sorry, William McNillis had a passport. So they just took a dead a guy who died at four and they got his passport with a birth certificate and social security card and a hunting license. By the way that that's the only piece of advice my dad gave me that I didn't do anything about that I regret to this day was when I was about 15 he said find find someone who died when they

were a young get their social security number start using it a little bit and then if anything ever happens you will have a second identity to use. Man that's just like someone being like you know there's this new company called Sony that you might want you're just like I don't need. I don't need. Like it's amazing. That's so it's terrible but it'd be so great now where you'd be like well I'm sorry everybody I'm off to the Canary Islands. Where are you going Dave? Dave I'm Patrick Llewellyn. Take care everyone. Okay so he's got his passport so he packs his fake WM monogram suit case along with some aftershave that's full of liquid acid. Now at this point Tim has literally been tripping every day for years. Even no

not in jail. Not in jail. Well actually he would get snuck acid in jail. Easiest thing to sneak in. Rosemary would sneak it in on her tongue and then they'd kiss and she'd pass it. Liquid in a bottle I would assume. No paper and then people would put it under their fingernails the paper. So he meets up with Rosemary in Seattle and it was decided that Algeria was the place to go. Now it sounds a little random but they had no extradition treaty with the U.S. they were socialists they hated Nixon and they had become a home for leftist fugitives. They had granted asylum to Black Panther Eldridge Cleaver who was on the run for murder charges. Now Eldridge Cleaver had run for president and said quote we don't

need a war on poverty what we need is a war on the rich end quote. And remember this is where George Jackson and those guys were planning on going was Algeria. Yes it was a big hotspot. Yep totally. And so and also if he was elected president he promised that in regards to the White House his presidential promise was to quote burn that motherfucker down. Sure I mean that's pretty good. I mean I actually would vote for that right now. I think Biden has said basically that on accident right. We're going to burn it down right. Shouldn't we. Well he's got a hammock covering his face. Can I ask you this let me just ask you this very quickly. Why do we live in a world where we can we have one shithead who won't wear

a mask and is like shutting down factories making swabs because you won't wear a mask. And then the other guy just has to over mask and just has to put a pair of pants on his mouth. Yeah. You know it's the same with what it's the same with we have one guy who's like no you should be able to kill him. And then you have the other guys like no no knees knees. What. Well it turns out old people are all fucking crazy. Well it is. It's pretty great. So Tim got to Algeria and he felt free and safe for the first time in a while. He could stop sweating Nixon but Eldridge Cleaver was dubious but when he heard that Reagan hated Tim because he ran for governor against him. Eldridge is it. Now he liked him. You

see Reagan once canceled one of Cleaver's speeches at Berkeley. So hundreds of students protested. Reagan sent out riot police who shot tear gas beat people broke windows and set fires. So Cleaver fired back with a speech that said quote fuck you Ronnie. I challenge the dual to the death and he could choose his own weapon. It can be a baseball bat a gun a knife or a marshmallow. I'll beat him to death with a marshmallow and quote very cool. I mean I would pay money to see a man beat another man to death with a marshmallow. And the truth is you can absolutely see it like who wait stop now. Oh but at some point the marshmallow becomes your fist. Fair yeah. But Reagan wouldn't know he'd just be like

good dog. That's my friend Nancy. So when Rosemary joined Tim in Algeria she was not very crazy about the setup. You see Eldridge had some views on women that were not associated with freedom fighters. Her first full day Tim said that it would be a good sign of faith for her to go into the kitchen and do some dishes in front of Eldridge. Cleaver had also talked about raping white women in his book Soul on Ice. So you know that is obviously that's cool. That's why we have a day. That's why we haven't done an episode on him. Yeah I can imagine the stuff it's because he's a fucking genius but then totally but there's that part. I mean he just himself from it later in life but still he's actually there.

There are actually so many parallels between the two of them the way that the sort of you know I mean the way if you really change somebody when you put someone under the kind of pressure and stress that you know like Tim was put under and Eldridge to some extent you know like like you're getting squeezed you're just like you're on the run I mean that just fucks with your head you say crazy shit. Not that I'm just saying what he said makes sense it obviously does not. Also there's just a shitload of dudes who we consider to be brilliant minds who have this just insane view on women. Huge blind spot. We act like it's not a thing but then you go oh really Einstein was a monster like you just get into

people's lives. Einstein married his cousin right. Einstein was so fucked up when it came to women like a monster. Well we need to go to where Austria we got to go do we got to go there or do what. Just you could do Einstein. So Tim got worried when Eldridge told him that his history with drugs could be a red flag for the Algerian government. Plus the U.S. now is a little more interested in Algeria's oil under the Sahara and it turns out Algeria wouldn't hate all that American money. So Cleaver on Tim's behalf went to the government and made the case that Tim was a respected Harvard professor jailed through his hatred of war in Vietnam and Cleaver skillfully left out all the stuff about the acid and the fact

that Tim is white. So Nixon found out that Leary's in Algeria. So Nixon sends an advisor there to paint Leary as this drug advocate who seems sexually perverse. And so when the when Nixon's liaison is saying that the most shocking part to the Algerian minister is that Tim is white and the rest is crazy but he's like what he's white like they just completely assume Black Panther. Yeah because he's like with the Black Panthers now. So like they just assume he's a black guy and then Eldridge leaves it out because they obviously believe that he's like I don't want to fuck with anything. So then this guy's like yeah he's taking drugs he's sexually perverse. I mean he's a white and they're like whoa wait wait wait what

what what what he is white like French white like that kind of white. Yeah. So so the Algerian media picks up this story and they had to run one clarification that said quote Timothy Leary is in fact a white man. So the Algerian president was obsessed with the Palestine Liberation Organization at a PLO. So Cleaver thought it would be a good call for Tim to go to Palestine and get a pick with the PLO and then the press could print that and then that would make him look good to the Algerian president. So Tim is desperate to get into Algeria so that he's going to go. So he goes with a couple other people and on his flight to Beirut Tim sits next to this young hippie-ish photographer who like sees Tim he's still got

his bald head but he's like are you Timothy Leary and Tim who loves his fans admitted that it was him. No. Yes so and he also agreed to a photo up with the guy which the panthers that he was with did not like and shut it down real quick but the hippie photographer talked about this encounter and by the next day the media was all over Tim and Nixon knew too. So he's he's they try to have him extradited and they put the pressure on him but Beirut has no interest in this headache right so they they don't want to seem like they're not helping out but they also don't want Leary there so they winked him Leary up and they push him to the airport and they fly him out right away and then they just tell Nixon like

oh damn it we were going to get him but he snuck out sorry you know so they just don't want to get involved. Now the Algerians meanwhile are realizing that they have quite a bargaining chip in Leary who again as crazy as it sounds is white. Now Cleaver is he's not he's not a huge fan of Tim they kind of don't see the world eye to eye but Cleaver is also running on money so he starts demanding ten thousand dollars from Tim for security but Tim's broke so Tim's like I don't have money you know and and any mail he gets Eldridge goes through and takes the money out so he has John and Yoko sent him 5k on the lowdown under a fake name in Algeria but but even that wasn't enough he just he doesn't have enough money so he

needs money so he asks his lawyer he asks Mick Jagger nothing so my god kind of screwed right so then Tim and Rosemary their situation in Algeria is sourced they're they're being watched they're being followed Eldridge is going a little crazy they were basically prisoners Eldridge removed them to an old office building where they were expected to live and sleep on a soiled mattress they had arm guards outside he would be used to that after every place he's been living and and the life he's been living for sure but he's also like oh my god Algeria and I was like wait what I made a hotel jail yeah it's a shit hole so you can't escape you can't I mean it's just once you start jumping from country to country

you're just you're gonna be in some bad situations well he's he's still in Algeria now but yeah exact like he's there's a lot of problems so so Eldridge has an arm guard outside of their door keep a watch on him and he's taken both of their Rosemary and Tim's passports their real ones and their fake passports he's taken so Tim and Rosemary both wanted out so he lies to Cleaver and he says he's actually thinks he's gonna get a check for $10,000 finally to pay him but he needs his passport to collect it he actually needs Rosemary's passport to collect it too and Eldridge is like wait why do you need hers he's like oh it's just we got it's a joint account you gotta double double check I've got it's the

Blues Brothers speech it's like I have to sign it at the same time on the dash so in the meantime Tim is making frantic calls for cash and the brother heard of eternal love again bail him out so Cleaver gives them their passports back but then Tim tells Eldridge that they're going to the go to the beach one day and Eldridge Eldridge gets hot mad partially because he doesn't want to lose Leary but also because he's in a bad mood because there was a cartoon printed in the latest Black Panther newspaper where his dick was made as small as a dot either way either way he wants his passport back the shit that works oh just incredible you doing all these psyops you doing all these fucking psychological

games and you just gotta you just gotta make a guy's dick the size of a dot in a cartoon no you know they're they're they're they're so much like exactly they're so they're playing him on so many levels and then he looks at the paper and sees a cartoon he's like I will kill so Tim gets assured by the Algerian president that he was okay to stay in the country he'd already ordered Cleaver to leave Tim alone however the seeds of dissatisfaction were made plus he and Rosemary decided they wanted a baby well I just realized Rosemary's baby but she needed a surgery yeah it happens it's only the 800th time I've read that sentence so she needs a surgery in order to have the baby and they're like we're not gonna get

the sale in Algeria they want to go to Europe and around the same time Tim has contacted about doing the psychedelic revolution which is an event in Denmark and Leary's hopeful that that might be a good new home this would be a good way to kind of grease the wheels so they would not promise asylum but they would guarantee that he would not be extradited for the journey so they're like fuck it they're going for it leave in Algeria they snuck off however they were stopped in custom the customs line in Algeria they missed their flight to Copenhagen and they were eventually able to get on a flight a few days later but the government had decided they were gonna take their fake passports so from now on they

have to fly under their real passports and they would not be allowed to return to Algeria once they left so that doesn't sound like a big loss I mean coming to back going back to Algeria sounds like that was already off the table I mean they're yeah they're totally they're fleeing yeah so they get from back to the place you're escaping from yeah yeah yeah the McDonald's that has been closed down for food inspection they're like yeah you get kicked out of here it's like I'm not coming back that's it I don't want to be here yeah your friend to your blackball they're closing your business yeah coming back now so so they sneak off and Nixon's team obviously is on top of all this they know they're making the

trip and the Danish and US authorities have communicated and they're planning on arresting Tim when he lands so on a layover in Switzerland Tim told a friend of his like if there's anything going on there let me know he gets a telegraph from that buddy in Denmark that says Copenhagen is crawling with the piggies so Tim and Rosemary skip their connecting flight and they just leave the airport and they head to Geneva to stay with friends of a friend now throughout all of this our good buddy G Gordon Liddy is by Nixon's side fueling his fear that either it's capture leery or lose the battle against the counterculture for context Gordon Liddy is a freak he overcame his fear of lightning by climbing a tree during a thunderstorm he

beat his fear of rats by killing and eating one this was as a kid and one of Nixon's aides once said quote Liddy's a Hitler but at least he's our Hitler I mean we've all eaten a rat to cure a fear of rats that's how I got over mine yeah I mean that's like yeah it's just part of being a kid well I don't know why do you have to eat it well seems like it's a extra step it shows you that you're not afraid when you're literally consuming it you like done that when you've killed it you've been like wow killed it but it's it's like now I devour it because it's prime I get it yeah you get it's not abnormally at the heart of your prey but it's okay so anything I did with my buddy Larry when I was in fifth

grade sure right right I'm afraid of Larry so I killed and ate him and I kind of got over my phobia of Larry it works sorry you killed Larry yeah yeah I was scared of him so I killed him and I hate him what okay now now I'm not scared of any Larry's sure great you get it nope it's just basic psychology like what are you not getting Larry I mean Larry was a friend he was intimidating me playing baseball right he was intimidating me what do you mean by that well he was throwing pitches inside but he was the pitcher I was getting scared sure so after the game I killed him and ate him and now I'm not scared of Larry's anymore any way heads up that's also a forfeit so on two levels you've made some terrible

decisions and yet now I'm two steps out of every Larry on earth yeah and we're out of the playoffs so okay look there's some sacrifices had to be made I mean I'm gonna dominate every Larry in the fucking league now every fucking Larry one game left I can't see them going very far without Larry on the mound honestly thank you yeah no there's yeah it's true it's okay all right good good to catch up I'm gonna run in the forest yep so Tim and Rosemary were kind of screwed but they linked up in Switzerland with this guy named Michelle who shard who was a fugitive in his own right but all he was like a playboy he had multiple homes in Switzerland he told Tim it was quote his obligation as a gentleman to protect philosophers

and quote and that he had cops on the payroll he's like don't worry about the cops I got the cops I mean so this guy is just a classic philosopher protector totally yes he's just he's a classic one of your philosopher protection he worked exactly one of the philosopher protectors yeah yeah okay yeah yeah right they're a great league a great league so he's also curious he's very curious about Larry's writings and what he made from them and Tim eventually named her shard goldfinger now within a few weeks red flags started to emerge with her shard like when his dog was too aggressive to a guest at a dinner party so he casually had it killed I'm sorry yes his dog was aggressive so he had it killed so that seems like it's

not his dog it was his dog that's how he's just cold-blooded it's not great no it's like I mean talk also it's terrible for like on a number of levels but also talk about killing the vibe at your party Michelle had his dog he what his dog kill he drowned it in the fucking hot tub all right the hot tub's off limits but everything else is fine don't worry that dog won't be sniffing anyone else's coat tonight sorry I didn't know it would shit when I killed it or else they would not have done the top thing I killed it again for shitting on me all right hey who likes cheese dip so so it's hard to hook Tim and rosemary up with a nice place with supplies and he kept saying don't worry about it we'll

figure it out but eventually for that he told leary he would need some compensation now Tim told him he didn't have very much and he would get some money when he completed his new book so Tim again is now in a different country but once again he's under the thumb of a stranger now his shard became obsessed with Tim finishing his book for reimbursement so Tim is still off the grid and one day he's out and he's recognized by a journalist who asks for a photo up so Dave let's let's walk through this you're a fugitive on the run from the law you just took a picture that got you in trouble before now you're still on the run they don't know where you are and you are asked to take a pic do you take the

picture what kind of camera is it okay it's a bad question which makes it a yes so leary of course obliged takes the picture here's the thing everyone has a fault this guy left he's just a classic fugitive that loves a photo it's just you can you know it's not good to love the spotlight and need to stay out of it for your life it makes it a little hard it's vexing so so yeah so nixon finds out where he is and he doubles down on his new war on drugs he asked congress for a hundred fifty five million dollars to get america's most wanted man and the pressure on the swiss begins is fucking christ it's worth it for one fucking guy who's doing acid it's it's it's it's also it's i mean he's the law and

order president dave so he's cleaning up he's cleaning it up it's a guy who likes acid what the fuck is happening he's gonna put him in thought jail now shut up jesus christ so word gets back to her shard about all the pressure so he tells tim now he really needs that money to keep him safe so tim's like i do i don't have it so her shard writes up a two page contract that basically gives him the rights to this book that tim's writing and all of the rest of his books for the next 20 years for him signs it doesn't know what else to do feels the pressure signs it but what tim did not do was get to work on his book which is what her shard wanted instead he was having fun in switzerland being a celeb that is of

course until one day the swiss police arrested him he was held at prison in solitary confinement but in the weirdest solitary twist ever the guards brought tim oj crackers three types of cheese fresh shrimp a whole chicken lobster swiss chocolates salami liverwurst danish meats a carton of cigarettes bottles of wine and a corkscrew though tim was only allowed one bottle of wine a day it's pulsar vena he's pulsar vena with goodfellas yeah well yeah so he's like wait what the hell's going on and then the last thing they give him is a typewriter and paper and suddenly he realizes a shard who has the cops on the dole had me arrested because he's going to put me in here and force me to write this so he can get paid

it's good idea and when the word hits the us that tim's in a swiss jail some hippies in california boycotted swiss cheese for support so that can't be real yeah that's not that can't that can't be real huh yeah it's real yeah they were like man we'll show them man the system so holy fuck man tim's tim swiss bail is set at twenty thousand dollars he's screwed he's confused he already owes money so he now is just trying to make get money however he can so tim signs over his berkeley home that he loved to his lawyers but he's still short so he does what we would all do he writes you heftner a letter asking him for money never heard back this is what i did same thing

yep back in the u.s. nixon wanted the commission on marijuana and drug abuse to make quote a goddamn strong statement one that just tears the ass out of quote end quote potfans but the commission can't you just hear that i want to make a goddamn strong statement one that just tears the ass out of a potfans tears the ass out of potfans so he has this commission that he's excited is going to deliver this this news about how bad marijuana is but the commission said after all their research they concluded that marijuana should be decriminalized and yeah went apeshit he immediately contradicted them and he still went ahead with his war

on drugs he was after all labeled by himself the law and order president so let's not forget it was literally admitted by the nixon white house that they created the war on drugs just to imprison black people this this moment here here where nixon is where where this commission says this should be decriminalized it's such a moment in time that would have changed the outcome of so many people who have been forced to go to prison for something so ludicrous a determination that we've already come to pretty much as a country now that it should be totally decriminalized by doing this he sets it back you know 50 years yeah so so simply and just because again he's decided

he's the law and order president so you've got to just do this shit for your own safety for your own survival it's fucking disgusting and it's so you know whatever so one day in august tim's in prison he's in the yard and he grabs his heart falls down and he's rushed to a hospital he's deemed too sick for prison though he would still have to pay his bail in reality this was a scheme cooked up by tim swiss lawyer who was awesome so for his bail he still has to pay rosemary went all over to different brotherhood members who again stepped up two men brought rosemary the bail money it was a simple plan but it almost got messed up because they all took acid the day they arrived they thought they were being

watched and they buried the money near a river the next day they almost couldn't retrace their steps when sober this is the problem with being part of a of an lsd gang and it was all invented they were just like in a hotel or like in a place and they were just like they were counting the money and then she was just like oh my god what if we're being watched they were like we're being watched and then they buried it near a river but they did find it now tim who was known as the high priest of lsd was you know in switzerland that didn't translate so the headline showed off his new name the pope the drug the pope of dope oh my god so he's the fucking amazing so tim's under house arrest basically at hoshard's place when rosemary

left for he left him for a member of the brotherhood that she'd already seen they he'd kind of known that she'd been seeing this guy and when he was in jail she'd kind of been seeing this guy so he wasn't that surprised but yeah it hits him so the good news for him however is that switzerland has denied tim's extradition to the us the swiss just can't fathom why tim got such a long present sentence for such a small amount of marijuana right however the more the swiss papers revealed about leary the less they liked him nixon's attempts to make leary look like a drug doubt criminal is working so hoshard tells tim he's got some more good news sort of he's gotten tim a two hundred and fifty thousand dollar advance on

his new book which is great after hoshard's fee tim will get forty thousand dollars good deal obviously with and by the way what he did was he gave ten to each of his kids and then he spent ten on a Porsche that got totaled so with the breakup in the steep agent fee tim entered a weird dark phase a friend of tim's visit him in switzerland he entered a weird dark phase that's right yep as compared to what we've already been on it things got weird uh his buddy comes and visited him and his buddy gets him to take heroin for the first time so tim shoots up heroin he gets hooked tim also took part in arches of all varieties with his new inner circle which now included a german artist who tim claimed had quote one of the finest

directions in europe yep and i know that guy i know yes that's your that's larry that's why you were so mad um so tim meets Joanna hardcourt smith at a party in switzerland she's twenty six spoke many languages she paled around with the rolling stones she was not only very well connected but she and hoshard used to date and she's come all the way to switzerland to meet tim after she felt so bad for him when hoshard and her met up for a drink and he shows off this huge check that he's took off a leery like a surprise and that combined with the fact that tim was on her list of three men she wanted to sleep with the other two being jfk and hendrix who at the time were harder guests let's just say yeah i mean but they'd all fuck her i mean all those guys

i will bang the shit out of you i would fuck you and fuck your mother john john what what i'm inside you now oh man they did like to bang those kennedys anyway um so she's there to elaborate tim from hoshard now when she's in switzerland she goes there with her boyfriend whose name is tommy the tumbling dice who smuggled cocaine for the stones by taping kilos to kids balance what kind of kids wait children kids children holy fuck what is happening also great idea great fucking idea are they his kids just random kids they're not his kids this is incredible so yeah so to internationally smuggle the drugs he would like i guess he would like take a kid that's not his and he was fucking great you just borrow one for a trip i maybe he had him but it

just doesn't sound like i mean if he did he was as good as a father as tim but i believe it's not his kids who goes along with that plan who is like no you should toy strap like i'll tell you tim leary tim leary'd be like perfect yeah but this is i call this one guy mule and this one's girl mule go have them you don't even have to put in their bellies stuff it in them they'll eat it so as soon as she meets tim they drop acid drink wine fall in love tumbling dice goes home alone snake eyes now they get married two weeks later while on cocaine and tripping two weeks he did it again yep he did it again that's right it's not i'm not sure how official this marriage was but it was you know someone oversaw it um on august 5th 1972 federal agents under nixon's ordered storm

multiple homes in cali and hawai that belonged to the brotherhood of eternal sunshine they arrested many members found 1.5 million hits of lsd tools for forging documents and passports 30 gallons of hashish 5k and hash cocaine weighing in at two kilos and 20 000 in cash now nixon and his team of already decided they would put this all on leary make him the leader the orchestrator so leary is hit with 29 felonies that will result in hundreds of years in prison his bail is set at a record a record five million dollars an organized crime prosecutor said quote leary is personally responsible for destroying more lives than any other human being the number of victims destroyed by drugs and lsd literally runs into the hundreds of thousands said the administration that is destroying what three

countries at this point annihilating cambodia annihilating vietnam Jesus fucking christ but doesn't it i mean you know it just speaks so clearly like was how big of a tactic was that before nixon because to me it seems like this was unique in the way that the things were so heinous that were being done and the excuse was so off track is that is this the first time he he definitely more than anybody else cranked up the war on drugs to a level never before singing yeah this is and the general just disregard for any institutional regularities really right i mean he just i don't know i mean you could go back and say they were certainly presidents in in the past you know has deranged i mean i know now we are living through one who has the blueprint

and is making some improvements off of it yes but he definitely has the nixon blueprint that he's working off of but yeah i mean nixon look all the presidents have been you know shady but the stuff i read about him i'm just like no nixon was out of his fucking mind and i mean he it's also you know he was also calling the switchboard at the white house and he would like get advisors on the phone at four in the morning he'd be hammered and he'd be like bomb the shit out of honoi yeah and they would they would literally ignore him and then the next day like a couple that broke up he just wouldn't say anything about it yeah so he just like everyone's sleep good that's why when i've told people like i don't think anybody would ever listen to trump's orders to nuke is

because they they they ignored nixon all the time yeah they did yeah they were just like oh grandpa's drunk um so this this move did what nixon wanted it made tim seem worse more nefarious and this made the swiss fed up they said although they did notice their cheese sales had oh i'm sure what once you lose that california hippie market good fucking luck so uh tim and rosemary had to leave switzerland now before he did tim was visited by his pregnant daughter susan susan uh had a one year had her one year old with her and she had just come back from india and she gave joanna a bottle of water she took from the ganges river she swears by its healing its healing powers so jay iina drank it now the next day joanna woke up orange she thought it was from taking so much acid with tim she's

like why the fuck am i orange but she's feeling sick and she feels so sick that they rush her to a doctor who immediately diagnosed her with hepatitis from drinking the ganges water now it's fucking filthy it's a filthy fucking river oh can you imagine pounding a bottle of that river water i mean have you ever seen pictures of it jeez it's just imagine swears by its healing powers and you turn orange someone came out of a chevron bathroom with a bottle of fucking toilet water it was like this will heal you this will heal you drink this i can't get in go ask the fella for the token and then go in there and take a gulp so good so uh afghanistan was floated out there is the next possible destination oh my god it was cheap and the brotherhood had roots there from

smuggling hash and also from the mass exodus after the nixon raid tim also knew the king's son was a fan of his so with no money they left for afghanistan on their layover in beirut they decided to take a few days because joanna had a lot of wealthy friends there and maybe they could wrangle up some money but they also bumped into a journalist friend of hers who asked him for an interview no now day okay you're on the rock and jesus christ okay last time you did this and the time before you did this it tipped him off so you're in this position yeah do you grant the interview i do yeah very here's the thing i love to talk to the media are we doing pictures because we can do a photo shoot i think gladly we could do a we'd love to do a spread let's call it man on the run here's the

country i'm in yeah i mean it's crazy just can't say no so he obviously does the interview uh he gets they get no real money from their time there so they decided to head to afghanistan now to alleviate tim's paranoia about being seen joanna dyed tim's hair black but while the dye was in they took some acid they smoked some weed they made love shut the fuck up while the guys did that the hair dye was supposed to be in for 15 minutes what has been way longer what is happening they raced to the bathroom they washed it out and his hair is turned purple so she her skin is literally orange and his hair is purple oh my god so they leave the next morning why not oompa lupas are on the run literally if a mom and a dad live i'm oompa and i'm lupa and then they fuck we have oompa look that's

literally how you make an oompa lupa 100 couldn't agree with you more so um so they left the next morning and they get on the plane but by this point the cia and nixon had seen the bay root interview that tim wisely did so the cia does a simple search and got passengers names for the upcoming flight to kabul including timothy leary who still had to fly under his passport so as tim is entering the afghani customs an american man in a suit literally just takes tim past tim's passport out of his hands then the afghan customs come right up to him and they take tim into custody for not having a passport it was all coordinated it was yeah pre pre pre decided that was going to happen so they take him to the plaza hotel which is actually like a jail now afghanistan's prime

minister heard all of this and he contacted the nixon white house weighing his options he wanted millions of dollars and he wanted it to remain private talking to nixon would be considered an embarrassment internationally on january 16th 1973 tim was assured by harry the king of afghanistan's nephew that they would be allowed to stay he apologized for the mix up and gave them some weed and oranges however isn't that nice these oranges are the color of my woman peel your wife uh is your wife seedless so um see what happens uh so the next day they are woken up and they are told that they have to leave for the airport immediately they're rushed on a flight to bay root tim pushes back he says he's not going to fly without his

passport they promise his passport will be returned as soon as he lands at bay root no that's not going to happen so they forced him and rose uh him and joanna at gunpoint to get on the plane and as soon as they stepped on the plane a man named berk who was bureau of narcotics and a total dick hole literally said quote berks the name dopes the game i'm here to bring you back to the united states dr leary oh my god how long did this asshole practice it in the mirror without fucking hours since he was nine just with a different name berks the name blanks the game yeah he just had a mad lip berks the name blanks the game i'm here to blank you back to the blank blank blank i'll get him that'll be good berk so they're on the plane berks sends a message that

says to nixon leary high again and this is all great pr for nixon as he's being sworn in for his second term in just two days uh now i'm one of the flights that they were flying back to america was a two-story plane where tim and joanna had sex twice so what yeah that's right berk caught him having sex they on the second flight it's kind of weird because it's basically like it just becomes a party and berk kind of parties with them so they're all just kind of like hanging out like it's tim's last time he's gonna be drinking and they're drinking they're smoking and and berk catches them fucking once and he like stops them and then another time he's like sees them like kind of fucking like on some seats so who the hell knows what's going on right how do you

i guess like he why did you stop him from fucking let him fuck who gives a shit he actually did let him fuck he was basically like they were fucking on the stairs yes yeah but eventually he had a couple cocktails he's like hey can i fuck oh my god you know we should do some of that lsd to him i mean the people just don't understand what the 70s were like it's just madness by the way that's your escape plan you give him acid and give him empathy that is truly how you get out of that situation that's your movie we need to give him acid so that he learns love and he'll let me go that's your best play that's that's what else are you gonna do jump it is your best play um so at his trial tim is shackled he's manacled his defense uh says that he his escape occurred because he had

taken so much acid so he was still technically tripping on acid so he was not of right mind at all didn't work he's found guilty he's given 15 years for escaping more to come he's headed to fulsome prison where the worst criminals are sent hard yeah fulsome's bad so once he settled at fulsome a fellow prisoner gifts him with some paper and tobacco and asked him how he takes his coffee and he gave him some great psychedelic readings oh and that guy was charles manson so so tim and charles manson form the weirdest friendship like z league man this is just this is this to me feels like remember when they did that series where they would just put celebrities together like michael jackson and elizabeth taylor after 9 11 and it got yanked with marlon brando

that's what it feels like but they so they become friends in there and uh they're like a serious odd couple like manson is constantly just like look dude acid makes you kill and tim would be like no no acid makes you love charlie i'm like that was their relationship but um talking about an odd couple totally yeah just let yeah like like he's just like tim's picking up an ear off the ground with his umbrella holding it up to charles is like what so um tim is also treated horribly there as someone who had seen the horrors of what solitary can do to prisoners tim was now on the other side the prison guards drugged him put him in a straight jacket shaved his head he was on edge and confused joanna put it best quote isolation is not only to keep someone in a box but it is so they unlearned

to communicate with the outside world yeah yeah isolation uh solitary is nothing more than torture and it shouldn't be legal anywhere it goes it goes along with it goes along with all the systematic failures and changes we are shouting about right now i mean it's just the the value of life that we have we have the american government has zero uh concern about humanity or the suffering of anyone in many circles are embraced for doing so yes fucking crazy um may 25th 1974 was the day that timothy leary became a government informant uh oh shit tim's fbi file was four feet thick and weighed 23 pounds don't you narc on charlie actually that's part of the reason they were probably put together was to see if they would narc on if they would like bring up stuff to

each other that then they could use when they turned so it was amazing calculated um so he agrees to work with the fbi but the brotherhood is pretty much behind bars or they fled whether underground or all in hiding so they want tim to turn on his mustache lawyer michael kennedy so i know do we know how many people were in the brotherhood there was a lot of people in the brother i mean it it it wasn't a huge group like it's kind of probably like the mary pranksters which i didn't have room to really get into but um you know there are just these little groups of probably like 20 to 30 people that are all kind of finding different ways to make this culture pop like the mary pranksters did the kool-aid acid test that's where the grateful dead came out of

and the brotherhood are just you know they're really supplying the the drugs of the era but there's not i don't think there's like 100 i mean i think it's like you know 30 people or something like that okay um so they they want tim to flip on michael who was a a prominent lawyer in the counterculture so um tim told them that the escape was michael's idea and that he had led tim through how to do it step by step so joanna wearing a wire tries to entrap michael into confessing but michael completely sees right through it and doesn't confess anyone they're trying to get on tape pretty much sees right through it they know hi can you tell me how you talk timothy into escaping i didn't when he didn't want to i didn't i wanted to say it too into my

chest i hear better if you talk into my chest about how you told timothy to joanna get out of prison joanna i never said that i think but i will say that in your chest i will yeah i've got a handlebar mustache might tell me how tell me how you told timothy to escape from prison i did not do that into my chest that is not what i did do it sorry i should not have done oh my god i'm an attorney and he goes to jail we got him we got him son of a bitch we got him on motorboating we got him on motorboating um so yeah so yeah like i said everybody sees through it so they get desperate the fbi and they all get fucking desperate so then they're they're finally like all right why don't you go and get jerry brown who has nothing to do with anything

what but they're just like okay jerry brown so what so the plan is that she's gonna wear a wire and then she's gonna go get smoke weed with jerry brown and then she's gonna have sex with jerry brown and then it's gonna be the scandal that's gonna throw off his run for governor um but but when she gets one on one with him like she eventually gets in a car with him and instead of like going through with it she just happens she says she's a reporter she's just a ton of bullshit and she just like she keeps bullshitting bullshitting and she's she's very attractive so you know he i'm sure took you know took some sort of like oh okay why don't you come on come in the brown car uh which was beige well i mean that in more ways than one you know what i mean uh david

and um so so she gets she gets one on one with him but then instead of doing any of the stuff they talked about she reveals that she's joanna leary she's tim's wife and that if jerry brown wins governor he's got to get him out of jail and jerry brown is like super freaked out and is like get away from me and that's the end of that is she wearing a wire no wire at that point i think she was wearing a wire yeah okay but i think she also yeah she's a super bad narc she she was on a lot of drugs and she was doing whatever she could to help tim's case i mean but she admits she was like fucked up um so that didn't work so tim and the feds now turn to busting george chula who was not only tim's attorney at many times but that of the brotherhood he's a good lawyer always took the side

of the underdog and joanna goes out to dinner with him one night and she says she needs an ounce of cocaine for tim to distribute in jail so chula is like sure but four days later he comes back to joanna and he's totally freaked out and he says that he feels like she's setting him up she's like what are you talking about he's like well this lifeguard just came up to me and he asked me who i was because four cops have been watching me and she assures him that everything's fine and then so he gives her what's left of like a gram of coke and some joints and then they bust him and jula's put away for like chula's put away for like 45 days and by many accounts it ruined him like it wow put him in a terrible headspace he just was never the same after

she's a narc they all they just were looking for help but it doesn't do anything like there's the truth is that it's tim theory is not going to get out of jail from doing this they already know that they're just doing this to break him and then what they eventually did was the feds leaked out the fact that leery had flipped to the public so tim went from the face of the counterculture to its enemy new york times quote leery scored as cop informant by his son and two close friends now that headline is taken from a press conference that was held this is where rom das was asked whether timothy leery was a scoundrel or a rascal and rom das said quote a rascal is only a mischievous fun-loving prankster who really doesn't want to hurt anyone but a scoundrel is malicious and people

get hurt quote end quote das said jail had made tim the latter at the end of it all jerry rubin said the 60s are finally dead that was just a funeral which is a great line that is a good line but it sounds like a great little practice yeah for sure totally totally but still it must have been i mean it's definitely a line where you go the 60s are already over the 60s are finally dead and then you turn around that was just the funeral and then you leave that's how that works okay so then in 75 tim sees his old buddy and x captor eldridge cleaver who was moved to folsom oh my god so we get a reunion now cleaver himself had fled algeria and went to paris to take a shot at a fashion line he made the cleavers cod pieced pants for guys cleaver said quote i am against

penis binding and put they failed you know what i realized i've been fighting for justice my whole life and against white supremacy but isn't it time for me to switch gears and just let the dick hang you know the white man pushed us down for so long but that's nothing compared to what my underpants are doing to my schlong hi i'm eldridge cleaver creator of the cleavers cod pieced pants for men let your dick's way cleavers i'm against penis binding okay so penises are held down by pants the way the black man is held down by american society i could go again but no uh on april 20th 1976 tim got some good news his possibility of parole had improved since the judge who was initially overseeing the laredo arrest died in a hunting accident so that's

oh shit he got so against all odds on april 21st 1976 tim post bail and he's released he spent four years in jail and two and a half in solitary it broke him and and was he he was just let out because there was a new judge it wasn't uh anything else pretty much i mean it you know that it was all such bullshit that it's like by the time but four years later you know nixon's out of office he you know everything nixon said is kind of now yeah it's anti it's anti what people believe now even the cultish people so it's been enough time where like it just doesn't make much sense and the reagan appointed judge from before is gone so it's probably a little bit of the culture shift and a bit of luck but but for whatever reason he's out so um but he finds out right away that

freedom isn't free he had so many death threats that he and joanna were put into the witness protection program immediately they were told they were going to be moved to salt lake city they said they don't want to go to salt lake city what if i knew mexico it was i don't know it's salt lake city is perfect for an old acid head oh but man i this was probably though when their rules were so crazy about alcohol so it was probably like it was it's probably had to do out of the alcohol um so tim and joanna sorry james and norah joce after tim's favorite author james joce would be given 700 a month stipend in new mexico now tim would still do interviews in the witness protection program how is that possible i'm not a hundred percent sure but um he would do interviews

because he can't stay away he can't stay away also how does a famous person go into witness protection it seems crazy to me too i mean essentially they were just off the grid but they would still sneak out and do stuff um but yeah it's it's crazy i mean he i don't even really i think it just i think the heat off of them eventually just kind of lifts like it's initially very bad but it's not like he like you know ratted on the mob he's just kind of vilified for a while and then it just kind of lifts yeah um but anyway in an article in people when joanna came home she quote ran to lyria as though she hadn't seen him in years this is the people article they embrace and gaze at each other with intensity and article in reality they fought constantly and tim's drinking

was out of control when he was sober he sat in front of his typewriter lamenting that nothing would come out he and joanna finally broke up at a star trek convention just yelling at each other in front of klingons well you live longer prosper too bitch you look like a prosper you dick all right creatures are on bullshit god damn it i'd be norah norah i'm ending james is ending it with you norah you're a fucking red shirt norah that's it you do not enter the captain's quarters any longer um so uh so they break up at a star trek convention obviously uh that was where they break up so joanna is now pregnant with a baby that she thought was tim's but she couldn't be sure because she'd been with another man the day of conception so under the birth i mean that happens

where it says father she wrote do not wish to divulge actually tim at one point does hold the baby and uh she's like it might be yours and he just goes this is all way too cosmic for me so that's a good dad that's a good dad that's a good dad so so thanks calm down for tim uh and in 1976 he's free um he's single he's driving a ford pinto to los angeles to find fame and fortune again die in a ford pinto that's this is where we this is where we finally go into the small up um now the last chapter of tim's life is a bit of a furious blur he had a radio show that got canceled due to him being sponsor proof he became an ally and a friend of larry flint he did a lot of public speaking in 1982 he actually did a run of theater shows where he

debated none other than g gordon liddy who had been his enemy years ago yeah i remember i've never heard about that the two became friends he also performed at the improv as a stand-up philosopher he did like eight shows at bud freeman's improv i'm gonna uh wrap this up now uh huh you feel like we're getting the light um so he would meet atris barber chase they took mdma for three days straight and were married on the third they divorced in 90 christ stop fucking marrying people after a fucking four days what the fuck is going on it kind of just it kind of just makes me be like whatever just get married i don't know why i worry about it so much this dude was just like he was treating it i mean he was just treating it like a buffet he's like i have a little bit

of that i'm out of here um so he and barbara divorced in 93 but tim remained an adoptive and good father to her son zack long after sadly he had not done well with his others susan his daughter was very mentally ill she spent a lot of her life in and out of institutions and she beat one of her children so badly once she was arrested she shot her boyfriend and she hung herself with her own shoelaces in a los angeles jail in 1990 what jack leary remained estranged from his father and also had a lot of time in psychiatric psychiatric facilities jack leary quote he was pretty much always inept at being a father to me and susan actually he would sometimes moan about us being the millstones around his neck a couple of times i could have

died in my childhood from lack of food of water food and water end quote holy shit so not that's not yeah i'm i mean i've only been a dad for 11 years but the a couple things that i provide to my son are food and water it's just like a that's actually like a super low you're a good dad yeah yeah you're a really good dad but that's like a really low bar as far as things you're a really good dad don't provide to your kid like water is like maybe the lowest don't they water themselves though no actually uh i mean at a certain age they can water themselves but so then they want a point they they actually need they have to give them water yeah just sounds so fucking annoying that's why sea monkeys to me are just the perfect level of commitment with a

smaller being i agree and they fuck like a racehorse yeah yeah i dated one yeah um so also leary got way into computers the internet even virtual reality and he really did see that wave coming quote the pc is the lsd of the 1990s and quote he even ticked his old tweaked his old catchphrase to quote turn on boot up and jack in yeah there was a whole uh there was a whole that was a part of a counterculture thing where now these sort of older people got into online yeah he had a website like he had web designers and shit he was like way ahead of all that um yeah but it wasn't just that he also was into space colonization he proposed that five thousand of earth's best should be launched in a vessel with very classy amenities that's right which actually

now that you hear that doesn't that make so much sense about star trek he was like that's a really good idea we should do that let's do star trek but for real um he also became an advocate for gay rights and some think it was because he was an ally some wonder if he saw a trend and a way to write his earlier and sensitive statements but either way he did march uh early on with for gay rights in uh 1995 tim found out that he had inoperable prostate cancer tim was quote thrilled i mean that's i gotta say that's a that's a very counterculture reaction i don't think okay well i've just i don't know how people process death i've never heard of anyone process it like this so well beyond thrilled so so the rest of tim's time is pretty much spent smoking

Benson and hedges and drinking he wanted to celebrate his death make it a party he basically opened up his home to people to do just that and many many many people came many people came people would just be hanging out in his house you could talk to him it was crazy but it was not enough people for tim who said quote seven million people i turned on and only a hundred thousand have come by to thank me his daily in his daily intake in 1995 after his diagnosis was reported to be three cups of coffee 36 cigarettes four glasses of champagne two midnight brownies leery biscuits that were crackers with weed 12 balloons of nitrous oxide ketamine dmt a fentanyl patch and three lines of cocaine he would go through what else did he have he would go through this is

he would go through 800 pounds of nitrous oxide in his final years holy shit he literally is doing nitrous all the time he eventually stops using a balloon and he just goes right up to the tank and rips it oh my god that's really fucking bad for you but also he doesn't have a long time but he doesn't care he partied he went crazy ramdas and he'd do like a reunion thing or at least like a goodbye where ramdas comes to his place and tim is smoking and he's drinking and ramdas just looks like this preserved human like and tim's like uh-huh um oh my god that's so tim there was one question that really remained for tim what to do with his impending death as he always did tim made it a spectacle he was pretty sure he wanted to be frozen or just his head then when he was brought

back he wanted to his head to be attached to the body of a gorgeous black woman so okay i'm actually i'm in it's interesting but it's a good idea he wasn't just fucking around what can i ask the question though yeah how how does the poor black woman get involved you know what i mean i mean i don't i don't i don't i think that's i think that's gonna be maybe that's why he moved off of it because there is for him it's a great idea it's not as great for the black woman i mean i don't think it works well for anybody i don't know it's cool i mean it's different you know he's different it looks to be an oddball but he was not kidding about being frozen like he literally had cryogenic people bring over a freezing kit and everything like there's this bag there's all this stuff

basically he his body would be frozen his heart would be kept alive then they cut they freeze and cut off your head it's crazy but um so tim moved off of that and eventually he told his reporter his new plan was to kill himself online so he's eventually dissuaded from that and he decides on cremation but he wanted to leave his cells behind for cloning when he was asked where he wanted his ashes spread you know what there's got to be more of me this can't be the only one i mean i've had such a great run why wouldn't you want more everyone's gonna want more of this it would be like gremlins you'd be like jesus christ who fed him it'd just be like eight little acid bunnies like uh-huh um when he was asked where he wanted his ashes spread tim said quote in space yep on

may 31st tim was surrounded by his close knit friends and hundreds of other people he was speaking though very out of it he said compandre aspirando which means i'm waiting oh i thought they were magic words of some kind that we're going to cast a spell a friend appears compadre hello and an elephant hello i said the words wrong oopsie daisy oh tortuga that means turtle oopsie poopsie did not know what that's what that was uh as tim is passing passing he spoke up and asked why followed by why not tim's very last word was simply beautiful and he was gone 12 44 a.m on june 1st under a year later from the canary islands a rocket took off with seven grams of timothy leary's ashes in them how that's the nation space he was accompanied by 24 other sets

of ashes among them gene roddenberry the man who made star trek what how how did he get his how who paid for that why did that happen it's just i mean who paid for it who gave him why i i people would give him so much stuff i'm sure someone's just like well make actually they i believe they showed him this before he died that they had secured this and he was over the moon literally but christ what but also he was so excited yeah i i yeah okay i was right i i don't like him tim's life is very hard to define or describe well even he said that shit crazy even he said it quote about a third of what i say is flat out bullshit and a third of what i've said is just dead wrong but a third of what i've said have been home runs i'm batting three three three

which puts me in the hall of fame nope hunter s thompson might have said it best in fear and loathing in las vegas quote we are all wired into a survival trip now no more of the speed that fueled the 60s that was the fatal flaw in tim leary's trip he crashed around america selling consciousness expansion without ever giving a thought to the grim meat hook realities that were laying in wait for all the people who took him seriously all those pathetically eager acid freaks who thought they could buy peace and understanding for three bucks a hit but their loss and failure is ours too what leary took down with him was the central illusion of a whole lifestyle that he had helped create a generation of permanent cripples failed seekers who never

understood the essential old mystic fallacy of the acid culture the desperate assumption that somebody or at least some force is tending to the light at the end of the tunnel now dave i'll say this hallucinogens can have a real impact i can tell you that from finding out many times they can provide the reassurance of the breakthrough that humans can't psilocybin is partially legal in the states in places like denver and oakland but it's close to getting full legalization in washington's state tim outed carry grant for taking lsd when asked about it grant said quote it's too bad lsd is illegal it should be controlled it's the same as taking a shot of brandy which can do you good lsd is hallucinogenic not addictive end quote and i agree yeah so now we're gonna go

through the credits of the of this movie okay so i'm you're gonna see pictures in your head like it's the credit sequence and these are updates albert hoffman lived to be 102 he and leary actually met a number of times when he was in switzerland he's the guy who invented lsd on accident albert found him to be at times totally misguided baba rom das and tim leary reconciled before he passed he came up with a dying project rom das inspired people to take a look at what death is and became a big proponent of hospice over intensive care he was brilliant and died last december rosemary went into hiding for 23 years after she left him she turned herself in eventually in a 1994 a judge throughout the charges against her joanna harkard smith is still a writer and a poet who

has a podcast called future primitive she's been working on a book called change your beliefs change your life surviving timothy leary neena van shellbrush married a western monk who was blind in one eye that she met at millbrook the two wed within a month and would have a child named umma thurman jack leary just happened jack leary stop it right now jack leary has a podcast called it's all happening or sorry zack leary not jack zack leary has a podcast called it's all happening michael kennedy was avana trump's lawyer when she sued donald trump and lastly eldridge cleaver endorsed reagan for president in 1980 and that's it that was a twist that last that last sentence people can get better

people can come around to your system man oh my god what the fuck so that's the craziest life i'm glad i didn't take anybody's suggestions to write that one up because i hate him he is a very it's very hard to know how you feel about him at least for me because there is this there was at one time this element of total goodness that did see yeah a change a way to change civilization and make things better the problem is sorted to what hunter s thompson said is that there just wasn't much of a plan right so there's no plan so there was not much there other than just you have this time where you go oh my it's very much like his life the movement i mean it went from being like so

bright and and so many possibilities and then it just fizzled and became kind of dark and sad and then also you know the the the outside forces of nixon just being an incredible fucking lunatic like doesn't help the situation well what i mean what what would have what happens if you leave again i mean it's like the the marijuana thing like what what happens if you let timothy leary and that culture keep going what you know like but nixon completely shut it down and again like setback marijuana legislation you know decades and decades yeah but but there you go man wow timothy leary quite a and i there's a lot of stuff about him that's going to be coming out in the next year or something like i think i know imagine's doing a docu series and then i think

he's going to be one of those guys that you know you're gonna see a bunch of jack nicholson was supposed to play him in a movie wow and and and like timothy he worked on a movie for ages and then he ended up ripping off his co-writer but he always thought jack nicholson to play and then somebody asked nicholson they were like are you gonna play him and he goes who wouldn't want to play timothy leary he's fucked everyone amazing yeah um and i should say that there there's just so many great books that i read for this like um there's a great documentary called dying to know there's a book the harvard psychedelic club by don latin outside looking in by tc boyle which is unbelievable that's not even tc boyle's amazing right that the book he wrote about this is

unbelievable do you remember we were traveling once and i was on a plane and i was just like i just finished this book and it just blew my mind oh yeah it was that one um uh then there's timothy leary biography by robert greenfield the most dangerous man in america by bill minnet halageo and steven l davis and then other shit too but but there's a lot of people it's really nuts yeah so there you go bitch i don't i can't see you by the way hi oh yeah uh yeah again i didn't like him man i don't yeah i get it i get it man the guy was i mean he he basically operated under survival instinct for half of his life and his instincts were pretty bad and and when you're trying to like plan something you know open people's minds and then you're you just i mean

you can't become addicted to lsd but you can certainly become addicted to not living in reality i think he was probably addicted to lsd in some capacity and i think you're right i think i mean he took acid every i mean everybody who would be with him he would be like let's take acid every day yeah yeah there's a story actually about george clinton and the p funk they took and bootsy collins they took acid for literally like 20 years straight no jet every day price me at all it's crazy there that could be its own thing but i mean i thought about it but it's just just like james browne hires him and james browne is just like what's going on with you guys and they're just like oh tripping their balls and then they said for one show james browne drank some of

it and he went out on stage and he was just tripping his balls off and they were like oh my god i mean like the first time i did acid i did it for four days straight yeah it again i mean what he was what he was preaching is what we kind of are having now you know like certified people are giving you these these journeys a guided journey like that is so much different than just yeah leaving someone with a bunch of tabs of acid and being like figure it out like those guided journeys can set and setting is very true for tripping like you want the right set the right vibe the right music the right energy so there's stuff that he like laid out that is totally stuff that is true and you know is helpful now there's just a bunch of other shit that's just

off the beaten path and crazy all right well you did it there we go all right don't be proud of yourself i hope you're proud of myself