The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 445 - Billy Carter

Episode Date: September 2, 2020

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine first brother Billy CarterSourcesTour DatesRedbubble Merch

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American history each week to my friend. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. You also didn't say your name there David. I didn't. Hi I'm Dave Anthony. No it's just way just not good. The energy is already off for this. Yeah I mean look. You've thrown it off a lot. Okay so I'll just say it's hard to focus when you're watching Pinochet take over it's just you're out of focus you know what I mean. Now I know now I know compartmentalize just let the world around you fall apart and just focus up on doing the history podcast but what could be more important than this. Well okay you put it

that way. Thank you. I gotta say I now know like what it was like for for people who were podcasting in Chile in 1973. Yes some chilling episodes as well. Yeah I mean it was hard to focus and it's just all that stuff so shout out to shout out to my leftist brothers and sisters in 1973 Chile. Yeah my podcast left us. I get it now you guys. I didn't get it before. No I get it. You know it's crazy how many times must we podcast through tragedy you know like and tremendous swings like this. That's right how many times are podcasters going to say we see this coming without people listening. This podcasters said it in

Germany in the 30s. Yep. Like I said Pinochet there's been so many times podcast. The Romanian podcast about Chachescu. 100% They actually they didn't even know they were recording that one. That's right. It was just through a lamp and it was eventually edited. And called it quote is jam patch. Jam patch. I'm the fucking hippo guy. Steve okay. My name's Gary. My name's Gary. Wait. Is it for fun? And this is not going to come with Tiggly Podcasters. Okay. This is like Adam. I'm a five part coefficient. My room's a place. Now hit him with the puppy. You both present sick arguments. Actually. You feel better. Yeah. Yeah. I feel good. Thank you. Yeah. Oh it

was nice. Yeah. It's always nice to hear you do that. Do you think it's all. That's all I get is nice. Okay. Everything I put into it. What's going on right now. Permission to treat the cohost is hostile. No. Granted. No. No. Just grant yourself permission. What a lunatic. I'm the judge. What? That's not how it would even. And the prosecutor. I'm the prosecuting cohost as well as the judge. What sort of judicial. And this podcast is now a hostile podcast. I don't even know what that means. We're not near each other. William. Oh, I gotta do the date. March 29th, 1937. Year of our Lord Jesus Christ. Let me guess. This is a William. Say a quick prayer. How did you know? Well, someone. Someone did what

we used to call in eighth grade. A biff. You biffed. William Alton Carter was born in Plains, Georgia. William had a 12 year old brother, Jimmy. Oh boy. Oh boy. Oh, yummy. And two older sisters, Ruth and Gloria. The Carter family had been in America for a long time and in North Carolina since the 1780s. Okay. So good stretch. That's right. We've all been on the same farm since then. So Billy's mother was not in good health for several months after Billy was born. So her doctor, Dr. Wise, prescribed three cans of beer a day. Part. Well, slow your roll, sir. Whoa. Dr. Wise is prescribing three beers a day. That's right. Let me guess. His first name is Bud. He prescribes three cans of beers a day to enrich her milk

and increase her strength. Enrich her. Dave, there is just so much going on. Enrich her milk. Can I get that? Can I get that taken out of my head, please? It gets you ready to party. You know what I mean? Now, this is a bit of party milk. Now, as Dr. Wise, you understand, I'm going to prescribe and write you a prescription. You have the three cans of beer a day. Okay. This is so crazy. What a great time to be a doctor. There's the, this is the worst time to be a doctor because you're actually like people know, like there's a lot more not back then. You're like three beers, man. All right. I'll see myself out. So in 1904, the family moved to Plains, Georgia. Now, he's been called Billy

at this point. The family soon owned a successful peanut farm and business. Young Billy had a stutter and that led to him not doing well in school. His father died in 1953 when Billy was just 16 years old. Okay. Now, Jimmy was in the Navy and he returned from the Navy to run the family business. Okay. And this upset Billy, who thought he was going to take over the business. Okay. But, okay. But, but what is Billy doing? Have we haven't really heard much about? He's in high school. Oh, he's just, and he's, and he expects to run the business in high school. Yeah. I'm not sure if he thought it when he was 18, but he thought he was going to run the business. Okay. Now he's not. Okay. Sure. All right. It's a, it's

16 year old dreams. You're like, look, I'm a junior in high school. It's time for me to run a, an actual business. I'm ready to be in charge of an organization. Billy graduated in 1955 and the next day he joined the Marines. Okay. Jesus. What's with the rush? I don't know. Who doesn't want to have a little fuck around time? I mean, especially, I mean, just take the summer. Yeah. Take June for God's sakes. It's really so he married his high school sweetheart, civil spires two months later. And then they would crank out kids. They would crank out six kids over their marriage in 1959. Billy gets out of the Marines. He comes back to Plains, Georgia. Hello. And he ends up driving a truck for the family business.

And he has a part of it. He has a percentage of the business. So this, the business is the peanuts still? Yeah. It's a, it's a two, it's a two part business. There's the farm and then there's the, a warehouse where they, other farmers bring in their peanuts and they, you know, shell them and do whatever else with them and ship them. This is like most parents nightmares. Well, then we take your child to the peanut field and then to the peanut field. Oh my God. Not Billy. He can't be around nuts. This, could you imagine if you, if you were born into a peanut family and then you had a peanut allergy? Oh man. Well, look, I mean, as we know, we probably have done stories

on that. It's just like two of them didn't make it through the fall. So, so Billy ends up going to Emory University in Atlanta for two years, but then he got kicked out for bad grades and also because he turned in a term paper that had been written by someone else. Well, so he got a job in Macon. It's also in Georgia. In 1962, Jimmy decided to get into the world of politics. So Billy came back to the business, which is called Carter's warehouse and he gradually took it over. Well, well, well, look who comes crawling back to old Billy. Now, no, I'm Billy now, right? Oh, how much different do I sound? Yeah, it sounds exactly

like Jimmy. That's why I'm a little. No, there's a huge difference. I'll show you right now. Okay. Now, hi there. I'm Jimmy Carter. Hi, I'm Billy Carter. No, it's I'm with the Carter brothers. There's a subtle difference. You see, I'm a bit more nasally and lower and I'm a hot talker. I'm talking a lot higher. It's really not great. It's really not. It doesn't zero noticeable difference. Come to my Sunday Carter classes. So Billy turns out to be a very good businessman. The company is soon making $5 million a year. His uncle Hugh said he was quote one of the most capable and smartest businessmen that I know, the man who scalefully built his family's peanut

business into a milter multimillion dollar operation. Yeah, right. We're worth peanuts. But that's a good thing. Oh, so he helped improve planes and he even funded an effort to stop segregation in private schools. So he's a little bit for the time a progressive southern Democrat, I would say. Sure. Yeah. Jimmy was successful in politics and he was elected governor of Georgia in 1971. By the way, even for now, I think he would be considered a little progressive in the south. Yeah, I think it's definitely not. What did Jimmy do? What did you just say? Jimmy became governor in 1971. Okay. I couldn't have done it without myself. Billy's wardrobe, mostly jeans and button on shirts. Everything he had was well

ironed and starch, even his handkerchiefs and underwear. That's that's so weird underwear. Just in case today, I'll get to it. So in case today, I'll meet the one. The last thing I want to do is get in trouble. Have for having wrinkly underpants. I think that's a military thing. I also had my scrotum. It was looking a little wrinkly. I didn't know how far you were gonna go. So I took the liberty of taking out and starch in my ball bag. Oh, what? Well, I have fondly pressed underwear. And then if we're so lucky as to remove the underwear, I think you'll find under there a new ball scrotum. It looks like it's of a baby. That's right, because I took the time to press it and starch it for you. So, okay, I just want

to move on because it's really upset. I just wanted to I just want to let you know that my scrotum, you're not you're not going to see a whole lot of wrinkles. And if you do, they've been caused by the days where I don't need to know. So it's all right. Well, I just want to let you know. Okay, well, don't. Yeah, you'd look at it. It doesn't look like an old man's elbow. Let's say that. Okay, got it. Okay, got to go. Gotta get away from you. Yeah. He created Billy created a fashion system around peanut season. A fashion system. So he had a set of clothes he wore during peanut harvesting season. This is my dream. This is what I need this because he lost a lot of weight because he was working so much. And then and then

he had a second set of clothes he wore for peanut season because he started to put weight back on. Wow. That's like if a bear could dress itself. And then he had a third set for what everything was when it was the slow time. And he was at his heaviest. Wow. Wow. We that is actually pretty smart. It is. We Yeah, we should all start doing that a little bit more. Like, I think I literally think you would be like, honey, it's time for my slow, slow time peanut outfits and she would go and get the heavier clothes. Darling, will you do me a favor and go grab my fatties? That's amazing. Wow. That's like, that's amazing. Oh boy. Well, I'm not gonna see you till the fall. How low hard work and clothes, man. So in 1972, Billy bought an old Amaco

service station in Plains. The previous owner had it was basically a hangout spot for his friends. And and he was he was retiring and old. So you want to get rid of it and Billy wanted to keep that going. You want it to be a hangout place. He liked hanging out at the Amaco. Yeah. He wanted to name Amaco and so long by the way. I know Amaco you don't hear around. Yeah. He also wanted to be a quote beer joint. So he added a back room. He put in an old chair and a trunk seat as a sofa and out front he had theater seats that had been taken from the Plains High School Auditorium when it was torn down. I like how he thinks he needs a functioning gas station for this. We're gonna take these used bus

seats and watch feature films on the television. And then he had all these beer, you know, coolers and shit. And then there were regulars there. Bud Duvall, Hogpen Johnson. Hi, it's me Hogpen. Randy Coleman. Doug Unger and chicken wishered. Hey, hey, everybody do it. Well, I tell you what, it's me chicken wishered. I told you boys when I die, I want you both to split my thigh. Figure out who gets to wish me back to life. Oh my God, how great would that be if someone if that was someone's actual will? That's what happened to me. I was a wizard put a curse on me when I live on. So I've been living five lifetimes like this under the dependence

of some of my associates after I pass on to take the bone and another gentleman to take the side of it and pull on it and whoever gets the wish half, well, they don't go for the money. They wish me back. I'm 600. So the guys, everyone at the, at the, this, oh wait. So the station, it's like a hangout general store, lots of beer, like I said, Billy's the center of it all. His son quote, long hot and humid summer days, somehow live in a bit when he came through the door as if he brought with him the power to recharge the place. He was profane and funny and loud. He was a master storyteller. He was the cloud. He was the king.

Okay. The king of the Amaco. That's right. Okay. But so he's a good time, Charlie. He's a good time, Charlie. Billy also had a pet goat that followed him wherever he went. Oh, this is fantastic. Billy goat. That's got to be his name. No, I don't know. That's amazing. I don't know what its name was. I couldn't find it. Oh, to have a goat like trail you. Well, now the goat would also follow him into the house. And then when it did that, it would pee behind the stove and Sibyl got really mad and told him finally to get rid of it. So was that due to the fact that everything they were making tasted like goat piss? That's right. That was a thing that was not great. Right.

So Billy drove the goat to Atlanta in the front seat of his car. Okay. And now at this time Jimmy was Governor of Georgia and his right hand man was named Charles Kerbo. Kerbo was a really fancy Atlanta lawyer at the time. Okay. So Billy took the goat to the office building up in the elevator and tied it to Kerbo's desk when Kerbo was out. And then the goat shit all over the carpet. And when Kerbo came, he found it, but he just took the goat home and kept it Kerbo did. Yeah. Wait, what, what sort of, how did nobody talk to anybody about what had happened? I was like, Oh man, I can't believe I got another one of them, uh, desk goats. Well, you're coming home

with the others and we got one rule, no oven pissing. Well, I think they were all friends at this point. And I think, uh, Billy was definitely known as a prankster of sorts. So, you know, I'm sure Dave, most pranks are like, you're like, I didn't see that coming. But this one, you're like the goat shit here. It's like, I got you, motherfucker. You should see your face. You can't understand what's happening. I've been working on this one for over two months. Some pranks are really intense. Yeah. For the super great Franks. Yeah. Sometimes when there's a prank, you have to, uh, completely have all your carpet redone. So, honey, unfortunately, I lost a prank today. That's not how they work. Well, anyway, we got another goat. So Jimmy

ran for president and, uh, 1976. He starts having success. Now this was when, um, election, election season was like not, it was like five months, right? It wasn't two years. No, it wasn't two years. Journalists poured into Plains, Georgia to cover the campaign and the press then discovered Billy's gas station. And it may as well have been oil shooting out of the ground and beer chugging over the top. Billy Carter, who was everyone doing the opposite of Billy of Jimmy. So Jimmy is very religious, you know, very pious, very, uh, sort of intellectual, you know, and then Billy's just crazy, uh, whatever comes out of his mouth comes out. He's also very smart, but you know, he's just, sure. Soon newscasters

like Ed Bradley, Dan Rather and Tom Brokaw were hanging out at the gas station. Oh, is there a, anyway, I could get another one of those delicious Budweiser beers for new Billy. This just in, I'm a fucking hammer. If it was not a big news day, they knew they'd get something out of the crew at the station. Uncle Hugh quote, the press found themselves getting addicted to Billy's brand of humor as they sat around drinking his beer. So Billy's just a soundbite machine. He just cranks them out like, quote, I've got a redneck white socks and blue ribbon beer. Okay. And they just writing it down like, this is amazing. He's got a redneck white socks. Okay, got it.

So the stories start hitting the press and then America is just more and more into Billy and more and more into the town of Plains itself. So Billy is going viral. Yes. Billy is going viral. Okay. And everyone's just super into this. So Jimmy wins the press. And it's positive. People are like, we like this man has. Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's yeah, it's not negative at all. Everyone's super into just super into the idea of the town. It's like this, this sort of idyllic town to the rest of the country. Okay. And all the guys at the gas station love talking to the press. Sure. Sure. Well, the quote, the station was home to some of the greatest liars and bullshit artists in the history

of the world and tabloid reporters were nothing more than a light snack before lunch for them. This is at an Amaco. Tom Broca, Ed Bradley just sitting on like some auditorium high school seats just like one more time, Billy. Will you say that again, Billy? Billy and the regulars learned quick how to entertain the press. Billy was not shy with opinions and he would launch into attacks. Reporters were surprised by his wit and his knowledge of national international affairs. What they didn't know was that Billy was the most well read of all the carters. He read five papers a day and seven books a week. Wow. He would challenge his nieces and nephews if they came into the peanut warehouse to read a headline

and he would summarize the story from any of the papers. Wow. So he's, he's one of those deceptively smart guys. Right. He's one of those guys who's a genius but has three different seasonal wardrobe. But is that genius or not? Is that genius? That is totally genius. Yeah. That's complete. I mean, yeah. That's like, Luther Vandross would have saved $200,000 if he'd just been like, don't get hung up on skinny you, Luther. So Jimmy wins the presidency and Billy goes to the inauguration. All right. It's great to be here. When he boarded the chartered plane in Georgia, he was wearing a denim leisure suit. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

The family brought their own beer and drinks because they weren't sure there would be enough on the private aircraft. Yes. Yes. It can't be that long of a flight either. I know it's not, not at all. All right. Well, let's see. We're probably going to need some more around 500 beers for the four of us. It's, it's just like, it's like an hour and a half. Oh, okay. Well, maybe we'll bring, I guess we could bring about 700. But we also have whiskey. So let's not forget about that part. But all right, we got 700 beers. Great. In DC, reporters asked him if he would sleep in the White House and Billy said, no, quote, I will never spend a night. I will never spend the night in a mansion.

That's great. Yeah. What a, what a weird, uh, no, but that, but that's the kind of shit that people eat up. You're like, fuck, yeah, he won't. He's the fucking. Yeah. But that's also like, like, look, you can never be part of Scooby's gang. A, uh, but it's such a weird, like who has thought of, who has thought, not sleeping at the White House, I can understand, but being like, no, I'll never sleep in anyone that has more than three bedrooms. It's like, wait, what? Why? Well, I don't know. Okay. Dog houses scare me. I don't like big houses. Don't lock them at all. They're too big. I like a dog house. I like to sleep in a dog house personally.

When he was asked about Jimmy winning, he said, quote, I'm just glad the rest of the country finally joined the South. Okay. Well, it's a big deal that he, and what is Jimmy's attitude to his brother's catchphrase? He loves it. He loves Billy. He loves Billy. I mean, you know, so right now it's just, that's Billy and he loves Billy. They're close and, and he, he's not going to, you know, like shun him at this point. That's not silence him in any way. Right. Okay. Yeah, exactly. It is what it is. And also he, he helped him. He really did. He, during the election, that, that sort of, you know, local folksy guy, people fucking loved and it did nothing but help Jimmy. So the inauguration,

Yeah, I'm actually going to hold the inauguration at my brother's Amaco. God, that'd be amazing. And again, like I said, this is all new. A Southern, a Southern guy has not won the presidency in a long fucking time. Right. And so to the South, this is kind of like we're back or whatever, you know, it's a big deal. So the inauguration party goes on for five days. Yeah, you know, it's like inauguration week. They do that now. It's still a thing. Billy was pretty well known at this point. At one point he was in an art gallery with his wife in DC because she, she took him and a man ran from a bar across the street and came in and gave Billy two six packs of past blue ribbon. He must have just been like,

oh man, yeah, I don't want to break the emoluments claws. I mean, what a great, I mean, you know, it's terrible, but it's also great. Like the idea that you're, if people know you well enough to just give you six packs, yeah, it's great for like a couple of weeks. And then you're like, I can't do this anymore. A UPI reported as they drove from the art gallery to the National Gallery in two cars with the police escort, quote, Billy stretched out in the backseat of the station wagon in his casual blue outfit, opened up a papst and relaxed. God. Why can't we get another? I know. Later that night, the family tried cappuccino for the very first time. Oh, good Lord. I'll tell you one thing,

mother. Now I actually sussed about a little more on how many beers we actually got to hold on, hold on a second. I'm almost finished talking now. Just so wired. Now I'm on my list of the hundred things I like about beer. Now number 57, another great thing about beer. All right. Once you're done drinking it, you don't have to wash anything. All right. That's fantastic thing about beer. Okay. Okay. There's what? Are you done? No, it's 42 more to go. We've been here for two hours. The bubbles number 58, the bubbles. The bubbles are unbelievable. Huh? I'm just saying dinner finished two hours ago and you've kept talking about beer. Well, someone said to me, why do you like beer? And I told you, I'll only tell you a hundred reasons why. So number 58 is

the bubbles. All right. Number 59 is when there's little ice crystals on the side. That means it's the right temperature for me. Jimmy put the peanut farm into a blind trust. Now he had majority control and this is after Watergate. So it's all about, you know, doing things ethically in the right way. What a phase. Jimmy announced rules for administration officials. He said the trust was some any decisions he made regarding agriculture would not affect his income. And he had his longtime advisor Charles Kerbo run it. Kerbo. I'm going to picture him with the goat. Well, but hold on. So he's like, I'm going to do a blind trust

where I don't know anything about the business and the guy who's running it is my best friend and current advisor. Sounds pretty clean to me now, Dave. So Billy that announced he was going to buy Jimmy's share of the Carter warehouse. Okay. The press asked him how much he would offer. And he said, quote, a bunch of goats. Are they like, all right, Billy, it's getting a little too character. I'm just going to give him a ton of goats. No, literally, just everywhere he goes and stuff, everyone just laughs and writes it down. Like it's just great. Billy said it. It's great. But the offer, what a great role.

That's the role. You don't want to be president. Yeah. You want to be the presidential brother and not anymore because it's just no, not anymore. So when he did make an offer, we don't know what it was, but Kerbo rejected it. Okay. So Kerbo saying, no, you can't buy out Jimmy. Okay. Okay. Now the town of Plains and the gas station takes off and celebrities take notice. What? Hey, it's Jack Nicholson. Is this the? Country singer Tom T. Hall. Mel Tillis came and visited. I don't know who these people are. Oh, really?

Annie Liebowitz did a photo shoot at the station with Margo Hemingway and Billy. What? What? What? What? You can just Google Margo, Hemingway and Billy and pictures will come up of them. You may. Wow. The the Annie Liebowitz is at an Amaco and then so she's got. Okay. Billy Carter. Let's see. Well, Dave, surprisingly, it doesn't come up in the search fast. Really? Well, no, it's like it didn't finish it off. Oh my God. This is insane.

Yeah. Yeah. It's insane. It's insane. Yeah. It's insane. The spread was in New West magazine. Oh, it's a great publication. So because of all this, people start coming from all over the U.S. to see this small southern town that has been romanticized by the press. That's right. We found something cute. Let's ruin it. And they also want to see Billy and businesses in planes actually changed the way they look to what the tourists wanted to see. Meaning? So they wanted to see Old Town, Homie,

sort of Norman Rockwell, small town. So they actually, if they're not that, they actually changed their stores to be that so people will come in. Whoa. Was that a big city credit card? Ma'am, you're not in the wrong place. Billy refused to change the thing. Quote, I couldn't believe how the press and tourists took to the gas station after Jimmy was elected president. I shouldn't do anything special to attract them other than maybe run off my mouth. Somebody suggested that we spruce the place up after Jimmy was in office, like most businesses around town were doing. But I said I would shoot anybody who so much

has laid a paintbrush on the place. Okey-dokey. Okay. So a traditionalist. But, but yeah, but also like what you're saying, that's like, that's the perfect attitude because people like it's perfect. Yes. And he rejects change. Yeah. He's so interesting. Some locals were worried about how much the town would change. That especially was true when a Canadian businessman wanted to build an amusement park in planes called Jimmy's Backyard. Oh, wow. Wow. Well, don't forget there was a TV, there was a TV show on around this time called Carter Country. That was supposed to be set like 20 miles away. It was about a police department in a small southern town called Carter Country. No affiliation. It ran for two years.

It was on ABC. And that it's, it's basically based around their family. No, no, it's just based on this is the place they're from. It's because of this town. Wow. So Billy fought anything like the amusement park. And at one point he and some others decided to go to Johnson City, Texas to find out what had happened to President Lyndon Johnson's town. When Billy came back, he told everyone quote, this damn town is going to be a junkyard or worse yet another Miami beach unless somebody can stop it. Wow. Such an interesting position to be in where you're like, stop liking me. Get out of here. Well, it's such a, it's such a thing because, you know, people want to make money, but this is really at the expense of the soul of your town, which is, I mean, yeah,

which is what happens everywhere. Yeah. So that's what happened. Plains became one of the top tourist attractions in Georgia really quick. Open air buses drove through the small town full of tourists gawking at normal small town with its normal stores and red clay dirt roads. All right. And up here on the left, you will see some more normal people, but they're obviously not normal like we are normal. Right there. You see that they're just like us. They eat food. They have napkins and they are wiping their mouths because they are eating and some of them here are drinking and they're looking at us funny because they don't really understand why we're here, but that's just the mind of one of the people in planes. That's just how it works.

Daddy, daddy, that one has a hat. That's right. And if you look closely, you'll see a few of these have hats on and I'd be willing to bet that a few others actually have hats. They're just not wearing them. So you'll find a lot of relatability in some of these things. Now can we take one home? Well, at the gift shop, you will be able to buy some of these people. Yes, absolutely. Again, we do it by pound. So any of these people over here, actually that family there that's eating the corn dogs will do a four for three deal. I don't know if you know what that is. They're great. That's where you pay for four and get three. And the hat comes with them. They will all be accessorized with bags, shoes, hats and whatnot. It might even get a car out of

the situation. I don't know. Judgment, a look of them might be a long shot. The town was so packed that people started illegally double parking just to run in and grab a souvenir from a store. We are the dumbest. Why do we look at mods like their lives are pointless? It's all we do. I used to have a stand-up joke about that in my first act ever. I can't remember what it was. Look, if you're accusing me of stealing your first stand-up joke, yes, I did. It was something about mods flying around in light and how we all watch television all the time. We do that all the time. I told you about the experience I had with Wally, where I had some gig with Evan and we were flying to New York, and it was before they

put the TVs, sometimes they had the TVs in the back of the seat, but we were getting flown first class, so I was like, this is the best, and they gave you the little TV, like a little TV kit, essentially, so you would watch a TV that you would pull out, and I'd never seen Wally, so I was like, okay, I'm going to watch Wally, so I put on Wally, and I'm watching Wally, and as the dinner is served to me, I'm in a big reclined chair with a screen on my stomach while I shovel food into my mouth, and then the scene where these fat people are riding around with the TVs and just eating came on, and I was like, oh my god. Oh, that's, oh god. Oh god. The media started calling planes a national shrine. Everybody's the dumbest. Everybody

just is so stupid and fuels everybody else's dumbness. It can't just be a town. It has to be. And you just can't just leave it be. It's like, who wants to be a millionaire? Everything. We're like, what? It's cool. Let's go there. Let's ruin it. Let's make it the biggest thing. Now it's done. Next. Yeah. So the biggest score of all was to see a Carter, any Carter, and of course, the Billy was the easiest one to find because he was at the gas station. Dave, in any way, does this remind you of your Pokemon Go game? Yeah, a lot quite a bit. Yeah. I caught a Billy. Oh no, there's a Billy in front of me. Get him. So Kerbo pushed Billy completely out of the warehouse business in September. Billy, this was a problem because Billy was super well liked by

all the farmers in the area. And so then the farmers stopped using the warehouse for their peanuts and the business started falling off. Ribal warehouses popped up and the farmers were happy to go to them because Billy was gone. Kerbo then threw Billy under the bus to the press saying Billy was loose with money and not good with administration. Quote, Billy had never had anything more than a job at the warehouse, which is not true. But like he had obviously, we know what he's done. He's had other jobs leading up to it. But also he was very successful with the warehouse. Now he'd been taking a $20,000 a year salary from the warehouse, but now that's gone. He's been pushed out. So he just lost, he's a guy with six kids who just

lost his business, which is a lot in 1976. That's a decent amount of money. So he needs an income. Billy ran for the mayor of Plains in 1976 and he offered nothing. His sister Ruth, quote, no progress was his slogan and his station still stands as an example of prosperity without progress in a town gone dolled up commercial for the tourists. Billy couldn't stand the thought of his, Billy couldn't stand the thought of his planes becoming Tinseltown and he decided the best place to put the brakes on was in the mayor's office. He wasn't interested in politics. It was planes. Wow. And politicians have been running on that slogan ever since, right? I mean, there is something to say. I mean, it sounds like he's running, it's protectionism,

right? He wants to keep his small town the same. He doesn't want it being overrun by, and he's right, commercial interests and all the yahoo's that come in. Look at every city in this country. I mean, where, I mean, we know, it's all the same. Everywhere is just building up, building up, building up for this purpose of just being, well, the only place that has held out a little bit is a lot of the northeast who put up roadblocks these places and still have functioning small towns and stuff, but everywhere else is just a fucking disaster. Yeah, right. So he loses the mayoral election by 25 votes. Jimmy came and voted for him. How did he lose? Well, Billy, well, I mean,

everyone there knows him, so they also want to make the money. They don't want the brakes on. Right, right. They want the money. Billy told the press it was the anti-alcohol vote that did him in and, quote, could you also imagine? Oh, sorry, go ahead. And quote, Plains is going to go to hell under Blanton, who was supposed to be his opponent. Can you imagine having a president endorse a mayor in the town that the president's from? He stayed out of it. He didn't endorse him. Oh, he did. Oh, okay. He just came and voted for him. He didn't endorse him because he couldn't. He didn't want to. He stayed out of it. Okay. Because, okay. So I was going to say, but everyone knew he was endorsed. It's his brother. Yeah. But still, like,

it's amazing that he didn't win. I'm shocked. Okay. He really only spent $7 for some Billy Carter, mayor t-shirts. And that's, that was his whole output. That's all budget. But like I said, Billy basically became a celebrity overnight. He was the lovable first brother, honest matter of fact, which everyone seemed to love. His sister Ruth said it was making it hard for him. Quote, when I saw what the public was doing to Billy, I saw there was no way he could carry on a legitimate business. People are always wanting to speak to him. Tourists would walk right into his office, into his filling station. Within 10 minutes, there would be 100 tourists taking pictures of him.

So Ruth told him that he needed to get an agent. Oh, my God. In 1968, Tandy Rice had started a promotion agency, top billing incorporated in Nashville. Okay. Signing music stars and others. He was soon Nashville's top promoter. Tandy said of himself, quote, what I am is the best damn salesman in Nashville. A show. Nuff. Hoss. A show. Nuff. Hoss. Wow. I'm a show. Nuff. Hoss. A show. Nuff. Hoss right here. Here. In February, 1977, Tandy drove to Plains, Georgia to talk to Billy. The William Morris. Imagine being a talent agent like, so your talent is essentially, I like to get drunk. I drink a lot.

And then I say stuff. And I say some strange, I say strange things. I say things that have meaning to me. And I hang out in an Amaco. And I'm not willing to make the trip to Nashville. So the William Morris agency had signed Gerald Ford's family to a promotional contract. So signing Billy made sense. It was like the next step. He saw, quote, raw celebrity hood in Billy. Oh God. It's a Kardashian like sensation. It is. Yeah. It didn't take long to get Billy on board. They shook hands to seal the deal. No one had ever thought to market someone like Billy. Tandy was breaking completely new ground. Most Americans still believe Southern families were full of freaks. And then came a pious Southern president and his beer, drink and brother, a swearing,

smoking, self-proclaimed redneck. So it immediately became clear to Tandy that he had struck gold. And the people of Plains could not believe Billy was now a celebrity. Well, is he, I mean, he just signed with an agent. But he's already, he's already a celebrity in the news has already made him a celebrity because why cover the actual issues that affect America when you can, you know, focus on the president's have a good time drunk brother. Yep. Fantastic. It became immediately clear. He struck gold. Billy filled the role perfectly. He understood he was performer and he was performing. And the more he starts going out to do things as Billy, the more he leans into it and leans into into what the press dug about him. Okay. Always speaks his mind.

He always test limits. He started being paid $5,000 upfront for an appearance. Wow. That's a lot of PBR. That really is for that time period. That's a lot of fucking money. He did a lot of grand openings for businesses like car dealerships. He was a county fairs sales promotion, weird award ceremonies like the golden wrench for America's best mechanic. Well, look, obviously, when they asked me to come and present at the wrenches, I said it would be an absolute honor. But before we do that, let's do an in memoriam to some of the great mechanics that we lost this year. No, I'll focus up on the screen over here, please. We'll miss you, Ray. How the hell did they not do scooter Thompson? Jesus Christ. Scooter died. Scooter died technically at this year. This is still

in memoriam from last year. No, I'm sorry. Yeah, I apologize. I was gonna say old milk Murphy, but he didn't find his body until last year, but he died the year before. He'll be on the next one. You've done this for most of them at the year after. Obviously, the goat that Kerbo had lost him this year. Objection. Yeah, what? This is not, no, not allowed to. Nope. I would like to object. About what? I don't think goat should be a part of it. First of all, goat was not a mechanic, correct? Did the goat work on cars? The goat sat in a lot of cars. The goat's a hero. Okay. All right. Now that's the end in memoriam. All right. Now for the winner of this year's wrenchy. Oh my God. We've got all the nominees here. Oh shit. My asshole's a quiver and

also television comes calling. Billy is on the field. The Phil Donahue show. He is on the Murr Griffin show. He is on tomorrow with Tom Snyder. Oh my God. I mean, the gas station business doubles. And it's not just Billy. Their cousin Hugh Carter, who had a worm farm, said his business went up 25%. That's right. I went from making $15 a year to 20. That means that people are just like, let's get some worms. Like what is happening that you're selling more worms? Yeah. No, you've got to be, as a worm salesman, sort of like, yeah, I never thought I'd hit the big time. You know they're in the soil. Well, their sister Gloria Carter spans books sold over 35,000 copies. So they're all,

they're all doing well. Billy's going home to place. He gets invited to the Indiana Democratic Club banquet in March 1977. Okay. To attend a cocktail party with Billy, Democrats, the local Democrats there were charged $100 a head. Oh, here we go. And that's, this is all going to the Democratic party. I think he's just raising money for this one. One woman had him sign an empty papst can. Okay. She was sitting at the entrance waiting for him with a failed beer. I'm out to pay up. There was an ice sculpture of a gas pump. what while he was signing autographs and taking photos Billy said quote I'm so damn drunk I can hardly stand up so he drinks a lot right I mean this dude is

drinking a ton yeah he's putting them away okay when he was asked if it was true that he wouldn't sleep in the Lincoln bedroom at the White House he said quote that's exactly goddamn right how do you expect a goddamn southern redneck to sleep in his goddamn bedroom okay dope Billy loose lips let's slow it down a little bit here good lord well at the end of the banquet they put beer in the trunk of his limo and Casey wanted one on the drive to the airport which he did surely yes I'm sure they do the same thing with Chrysler that's Billy was already such a big a 19th such a big deal in 1977 that the swamp buggy days in

Naples Florida were moved up a month because Billy wasn't available in May wow they moved an entire event and well and it's also swamp it's like you're probably that way because of nature and April 77 Billy was in Oakland to throw out the first pitch of a a's baseball game the night before he spoke at a cocktail party for 400 season ticket holders Carter Gilmore was there he was a black Oakland City Council candidate and an NAACP official Washington Post quote fueled by at least a half dozen sweating cans of perhaps blue ribbon and a glass of bourbon and water wow so he's shitfaced he's having a good

old time during a speech Billy said the reason he had the same last name as the first name of Carter Gilmore was because quote we all left a nigger in the woodpile somewhere oh my god what and then everybody laughed what because it was a joke now damn yeah now Carter Gilmore didn't hear it completely and when he found out he asked for an apology so he didn't learn about till he said he didn't hear it well because everyone you know and someone tells him later after the party's over and he's like he asked for an apology so the next day before he throws out the pitch Billy is asked about the whole

situation quote I would never say anything like that seriously no offense meant well there you go there's your heartfelt apology and then and then said Gilmore had thought it was funny at the time and was now trying to get publicity okay well right like who gives a shit I mean you know like yeah this is you're beyond saying sorry so you should that come in conjunction with the Lincoln bedroom quote is like dicey obviously yeah quote I understand he's asking for an apology but I ain't apologizing and then Billy added quote I was drinking beer but I was not drunk that doesn't that you should say you're drunk I mean so

he goes to this event where there's clearly press and other people he uses the n-word and this doesn't slow down as paid appearances in the slightest there's no hiccup there's no nothing everything just keeps trucking along he appears at contests like the world champion poll climbing contest in Kentucky and the All-Star Anything Goes hosted by Six Flags in Nashville all I'm still like adjusting to what he said but meanwhile wait wait what's the Six Flags one the All-Star Anything Goes hosted by Six Flags so I truly try to dig into this because all I could find was pictures of it and no

description because everyone's like why would I describe what the All-Star Anything Goes is everyone knows yeah so Anything Goes was a show in which they would have normal people do crazy things for caches and prizes and then I think I think the All-Star Anything Goes is the celebrity version of that which they win money for charity okay well either way I would not suffer in this era signing up for a show called Anything Goes yeah okay he also went to the fourth annual Canadian belly flop championships in Vancouver they said we wouldn't come back a fourth year but here we are Billy was invited to be a judge because they

wanted more u.s. exposure because obviously they've killed it in Canada with the belly flop championships and now they want to break in yeah I mean we just actually I think we just did the 45th so it's exciting to say the least and of course I mean well who better to legitimize your event than the drunk brother of the president the producers considered it a coup to get Billy NBC Sports then came up to cover it now the anarchist party of Canada was known for throwing pies at politicians okay I'm gonna read that sense again the anarchist party of Canada was known for throwing pies at politicians so the

anarchists in Canada at this time have completely lost their fucking mind don't even know what being an anarchist is anymore and they're just like crazy pranksters well Dave they always say if you push the line of anarchists far enough around the other bend is clown as guys really why we might just be clowns isn't that crazy look at our shoes how did my god my shoes yes your shoes are all of our shoes are huge oh my god look at my suit and these disguises look at our red hair the white makeup what is that even doing for us guys we have failed I really think we're clowns we're part of the system we're

clowns and I'll be honest I'm loving it will you smell this flower yeah yes no no no again I think we've got the other way but yes yes okay so as Billy was walking behind a pool a man ran up to him and threw a pie okay but the pie was deflected by a security guard right see that guy's doing his job he's taking he's taking a pie he's taking a pie get into safety when Billy realized the pie was meant for him he completely lost it he yelled quote let me add him I want him and then had to be restrained by security and onlookers they held Billy down how you be an anarchist that's right they held Billy down for about a

minute and when they let him go Billy ran and jumped a small wall and ran to the hotel parking lot looking for the pie throwing anarchist a security guard chased Billy and stopped him pinning his arms and holding him until he calmed down when he was finally let go Billy went back to looking for the pie thrower so security stopped Billy from Billy yeah and he went on some sort of fugitive like mission for the one-hour man yeah he yeah I mean he was not stopping till I got the pie man uh-huh okay it was it was like he turned this event into death wish for pie throwers it sounds like an American went to a

Canadian event at the at the belly flop championships Billy also don't don't don't take us off course what happened at the belly flop competition Billy also lost an arm wrestling contest to current belly flop champion so he the guy who won he then challenged him to an arm wrestling contest and lost lost and at one point Billy dove into the pool fully clothed with a rose in his teeth and a beer in one hand it's just guys he's I'm not over his discretions but he's really trying October 17 1977 Billy was paid somewhere between five and ten thousand dollars to show up at Miss Piggy's Pizza Beauty pageant in Boston

to judge what I'm learning is that this is the era of too many contests a female reporter asked him a quote is there anything you won't do for money and Billy responded quote yes but if you proposition me I'll do it for free Billy was super into going after feminists and saying a woman's place was at home cooking and that was one of his deals when asked what he would be looking for in a beauty contest quote front and back okay yeah but I mean that's essentially what they were then right I mean that was like yeah I guess yeah yeah yeah okay and this none of this stopped him from doing high-profile

gigs appearing on Hollywood Squares and he ha multiple times Jesus Christ he always probably like son this man to a lifetime contract when I said he had any concern about making money off Jimmy's name he said quote I campaigned for Jimmy all over the South it's kind of a swap and when asked if he would make more money than Jimmy in October of 77 for the year Billy said quote hell I already have which was which was the truth yeah it was the absolute truth and with his business gone with this but with being forced out of the business and not be able to buy it this is what he had to do yeah right right if Billy had been

allowed to take over the business this wouldn't be happening so Kerbo did this all kind of and Billy and Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy it's not like Kerbo did that in a blind trust I mean Billy signed a deal with Melvin Simon and associates of course you know what they do they build yeah shopping shopping centers and malls they build shopping centers and malls exactly yep yeah so he became Billy came one of their star attractions for shopping center openings oh boy this is also something that Ed McMahon was a big part of Dave I'm not kidding very quickly this is a true story I okay long story short my friend Ryan decided his

basement was gonna be called clubfoot and we were gonna hang out in there and like drink in there like drink like Billy Carter and I was doing something like some comedy sports related thing at a mall and and then so so I went up to Ed McMahon and asked him at this autograph signing if he would sign an autograph to clubfoot and the look on his face I I mean I was young but I was like okay sorry mister that's amazing so at one mall opening in East Texas there was Ed McMahon smoke and Joe Frazier Billy Carter and Grizzly Adams wow it's a real who's not wow opening wow I mean that's insane for a mall opening Billy and

smoke and Joe Frazier had a boxing match what Billy Billy war Billy wore a black satin boxing robe that said planes pounder on the back I mean it's not a real boxing match obviously it's all fake but what the fuck is happening yeah what is happening what what about the stores so Billy was sort of at this point like an ambassador to the South for the rest of the country but at the same time Southerners debated whether the car Carter's actually represented Southern culture okay so biggest Billy's biggest project started in 1977 Louisville beer maker Falls City had really fallen on hard times because big national brands

were taking over so Falls City reached out to and then struck a deal with Billy to market his own brand of beer sources said Billy got fifty thousand a year to license his name and promote it Billy picked the beer the company made some test batches and Billy picked his favorite Billy quote maybe all by the way that's a dream job for Billy so Billy today you're gonna drink a bunch of beer and tell us which one just like and then we're gonna name it after you oh boy somebody pinch me Billy quote maybe I'll become the Colonel Sanders of beer good Lord that's not what you want the beer was named beer was named Billy beer and

it was announced Billy beer it was immediately apparent there would be a lot of demand and Falls City brewery would not be able to keep up so Falls City licensed the Billy beer brand and formula to three other brewers the mayor of Plains declared October 31st 1977 Billy beer day well that's nice because that's the guy who beat him and then Falls City held an event in Plains Falls City sorry okay wait they held an event no no no planes is where it is okay and then Falls City is the brewery so yeah right city they hold an event there's hot air balloon rides bands a songs inspired by Billy beer competition peanut

shelling competitions and peanut relay races entire Carter family is there everyone in the family even Billy's mom wore a Billy beer t-shirt and the Billy beer t-shirt would become very well known so it's this huge marketing event okay Billy beer hits the market in October sorry November 1977 and people rush to get it it's a 12-pack it has a photo of Billy and his gas station buddies drinking Billy beer on it it only comes in cans each had Billy's signature and a quote I had this beer brewed just for me it's the best beer I've ever tasted and I've tasted a lot but in actuality the beer is horrible tasting it is wow

terrible terrible beer well that's not smart at Billy beer promotional events he'd say the company lied about how great it tasted and then he gets shit faced and tell reporters he actually still drank perhaps blue ribbon well truly there's not a cage to hold this man we cannot build the prison to contain Billy Carter I'll still drink perhaps if I'm being honest Billy hey can we talk to you for a little while about what's going on not now I mean this company just got so into the marketing they just they just spent no time on making a decent beer which you would think that he would like I know you know be like

meticulous about that I mean if there's it seems like the only thing he has passion about yep so despite all of this stuff that's going on Billy and Jimmy are still close there's no attempt to distance Billy Billy it still goes to the White House he once invited a friend to meet him at the White House okay Doug Doug Carter the doorbell Doug Carter from Florida who they met during a campaign and just decided since he was had the same last name there'd be friends yep that's how it works that's why you're only friends with Anthony's that's right Doug asked sorry Billy asked Doug if he wanted to drink which surprised Doug

because Jimmy had banned all alcoholic drink drink there's no drinking in the White House he's very he's very religious so Billy just laughed and took Doug into the pantry reached behind a stack of cans and pulled out a fifth of Jack Daniels oh my god this is the dream role the dream role is presidential sibling yeah the two men then had a snort and went to an upstairs balcony they sat with a feed-up on the railing drinking and watching tourists pass by at the White House and the tourists were like um wait a minute that is brother drunk I couldn't find it but he also at one time smoked pot and at the White House and

then said it that he did yeah what a great place to sneak a jay that is just they say Willie Nelson too it's weird now that it seems that the White House is just 100% fueled by speed but yeah cocaine by the way different energy we're learning different energy with the amphetamines the entire RNC was fueled by cocaine something was going on something it was it was crazy to watch Billy's wardrobe became a thing because the people paying him to promote wanted him to wear specific clothing and usually t-shirts that advertised their product well that's logo t-shirts were now super big right so that's what

everyone was doing okay sometimes he wore costumes he dressed as a bear for Herman shoes he wore a white suit and white top hat for a balloon ride in Springfield Illinois on a talk show he was given a jester type hat that was made completely out of beer tabs oh my god what and he just does anything and he wore it with a matching beer tab vest like yeah he's just putting on he's just like who gives a shit I'm making $5,000 hey look out I'm a big scary bear by shoes here hey I'm a bear by shoes here hey I eat same about you see so like I said logo t-shirts are a thing but he's also not again so he's wearing a lot of

those but he's not against throwing on a leisure suit which are also popular he had a very noticeable and beautiful lime one that he wore a lot Dave I mean really wardrobe wise this guy is just pulling at my heartstrings he wore shirts that said redneck power and redneck ambassador well I don't know if he's so this leads to redneck becoming fashionable during the Carter administration oh good part of which is due to Billy Carter redneck chic is born white Americans across the country start using affected fake southern drawls and dressing in Levi's and cowboy boots oh god what a weird it's it's or it's this

leads to urban cowboy the movie this right it's it's the bull riding in the bars it's all that shit right goddamn Billy was what the country thought was real southern identity now Billy becomes a regular on the farmer redneck comedy show he ha that we talked about earlier so now he's just on all the time sure Billy actually would drive up attendance and ticket sales at events in 1977 he was the honorary starter of the Atlanta 500 NASCAR race wow now sometimes the White House was upset with Billy but pretty much most of the time they didn't seem bothered by it when he spoke around the country Jim would Jim would make

jokes about Billy and get laughs right my brother my brother my brother might be actually keeping a different pace than I am but that's him at one point he said I was looking for a job for Billy and I looked at head of the FBI or CIA but we wanted something that he could spell okay all right sure but again Billy's really smart so anyway Billy makes a doi a deal with a toy car maker a revel to make toy Billy pickups so they gave him an actual truck that's the same as the toy truck for promotional purposes and the slogan is quote whether he's on service runs or just running around town he does it in style with his redneck

power pickup so they made a Billy Carter toy pickup truck for children yeah and the man is like a public racist alcoholic yeah and anti-feminist anti-feminist be like Billy when you grow up sometimes Billy's driving around town sometimes Billy driving around town drunk but everybody still loves him yeah it's very it's he's well it's a different time yes for sure people people who don't understand so around this time there is a commercial running on television that is a guy I don't know who made it but it's it's a guy who's saying look I used to drink five six packs a day and think it was just beer

but I am an alcoholic like they actually had to make an ad to tell people you could be an alcoholic if you drank beer yeah so it's just a different fucking time I remember we've got Billy we've got Billy Martin we've got wait impossible to have to be an alcoholic if you only drink beer is that is what you're saying that that was what people thought they thought you couldn't be an alcoholic if you just drank beer and Billy Carter came along and they were like well it turns out now Billy actually considered himself a good old boy and not a red neck he once explained the difference quote a good old boy is someone that

rides around in a pickup truck which I do and drinks beer and puts him in a litter bag a redneck's one that rides in a truck and drinks beer and throws him out the window well there's an enormous difference there's well but what he's essentially explaining is a classified in the south right right you can look down upon these people but not as but also other people in the family considered redneck to be a something to be proud of right okay so but the redneck label that he uses is more you know for publicity right his love of beer called him to now let him to now be called the beer drinking king of America enjoying

the title enjoying beer and pushing Billy beer was often reported in the news and these would sometimes include Billy taking a leak in public oh my god what it what I mean did somebody needs to step in and be like Billy no no like he's just got free reign his brother could pardon him for anything so he's like all right well that's right a woman's place in the kitchen you all about to see my dick well his sister tried to reason that he liked beer because his mother had to drink three a day after he was born Billy just cut Billy just cut to the heart of it quote I just like beer don't the doctor doctor wise is

medical decisions are not aging amazingly well he embraces the beer drinking label he's using a beer can tab as the image on his business card he's just all in with beer in October 78 Falls City brewery announced the brewery was closing down the real problem was that they went all in on Billy beer and it was a horrible tasting beer people would buy it once but not twice it was a one it's like it's like ET the video game the beer that's right Falls City blamed the failing Carter administration quote it sank with the popularity of the president well Dave but that's why they say don't get

involved in presidential beer politics that's right it's I mean it's an old saying for a reason yes and it is as true as ever now well Billy understand how to promote he really didn't seem to understand why the public liked him so much he told penthouse magazine now again this is the president's brother being interviewed by penthouse magazine sure right which is normal yeah this is right before he did jugs the interview on yeah jugs yeah no yeah he was just like all right you gotta get moving I got hostile jugs barely 18 spread them I'm doing brown I'm doing I'm doing brown hole I'm doing all the big ones today I'm

doing brown holes and one of their best investigative journalists mr. Tate I by the way hey do not keep him waiting he is tight to white he told penthouse magazine quote I don't know how to describe the appeal but I think people can't believe a president's brother can be like I am he's got to be I mean truly like for your job to be like I'm just kind of a shithead and he's not even a shit in that saying he's a shithead obviously like you said he's smart and stuff but he also just is drunk all the time and just says abhorrent things yeah I think that he is he's sort of that mean meanish drunk he's he's the white he's

the white guy who talks shit about everybody else and makes classless jokes and everyone's like you know he's sort of a Fox News version of you know what he is this is what he is he's the lighten up guy yes yes you know like the guy who like says stuff and you're like hey don't talk like that come on lighten up what are you could lighten up I don't mean it it's a joke that's yeah in the interview with penthouse magazine he also took a swipe at Charles Kerbal the man in charge of the trust quote mm-hmm he's about the dumbest bastard I ever met I mean penthouse's only reporter must have been

like wow some Atlanta businessman at this time wanted to set up a Libyan trade council so they sought out Billy what let me tell you who's not to be at the front of your Libyan trade council but it's just so amazing that it has nothing to do with who you are as a person it's just the connections you like capitalism will get in bed with fucking Satan if Satan knows someone on the other side of the door right like this is not a man you should ever be in business with based on the shit that he said and done and yet it doesn't fucking matter if you have a connection they don't fucking care I'm gonna I'm gonna

actually counterpoint you on this day because the second that I started to hear this story I thought Libyan ambassador so in September of 1978 Billy took a trip to Libya all expenses paid by the Libyan government now we should point out that Gaddafi's in charge of Libyan government is very much seen in America as a terrorist state Reagan's gonna bomb it you know there's a lot of they they the Scotland playing they take down like so right Billy says he didn't get any other form of payment on the trip though Libya did give him a $25,000 silver studded saddle which was actually on a horse and then he took the

saddle and left the horse in Libya yeah wow so he stripped it that sounds a bit like a gift Carter's warehouse had slumped under Kerbo and he decided to sell it Kerbo told the press quote I could have sold it some time ago to foreigners but there's been enough bad publicity about it already without selling to them Kerbo then emphasized Kerbo then emphasized he would not sell to Arabs all right Kerbo enough talking into the mic move away Kerbo okay but remember this is when everyone hates Arabs it's just everyone just flat out very open we're talking about the OPEC oil embargo like everyone just hates so

this is just standard how people talk but but then the idea that Billy Carter is going over there is very strange yeah oh absolutely during all this time Kerbo oversaw the trust like I said he's still Carter's Jimmy Carter's main advisor and best friend so defeats the entire purpose of a blind trust so as far as Billy talking shit about Kerbo publicly Kerbo came back at Billy he said Billy was still upset about being out of the $20,000 salary he had six kids a huge spending problem and had built a big house he couldn't afford Kerbo said Billy had tried to own his own farm and that failed he could still draw money

from the company because he had a percentage in it and he recently had borrowed a hundred and forty eight thousand and then Kerbo said to the press quote Billy has a drinking problem oh god damn Kerbo going it hard well he didn't like he didn't like being called the dumbest bastard ever so but man he came out with a family fucking secrets like he just dropped yeah yeah he just dropped some bombs a few months later a Libyan delegation visited the US and came to Plains Georgia okay it's one of one of one of a few cities they they're probably like boy they have greatly overstated the wealth of this

country it's one of a few cities they visited and Billy obviously shows them around so well so while Billy is waiting for the delegation at the Atlanta Airport he took a leak on the side of an airport building while the press watched what is this is imagined seeing like Trump's brother was pissing in a bush you just be like wait what is happening yeah Trump's brother's drunk and he's just pissing in the bush the end and I mean by bush I mean George W's mouth the Anti-Defamation League denounced Billy's association to Libya and Billy responded quote there's a hell of a lot more Arabians than there is Jews

hey we're gonna put you on what we call a word count now the next day the next day when you know the press came back at him for that quote he said the Jewish media tears up the Arab countries full time and then he lavished praise on Gaddafi I mean now he's like Dennis Rodman going to North Korea yeah right right yeah yeah Billy went back to Libya in night and this this obviously caused a huge fucking thing right and then he goes back to Libya in early 1970 time 79 this time with Sybil his son buddy and some friends he was told before he went to register as a foreign agent with the

Department of Justice but he refused to do that now registering was a must-do if if you're gonna do business with a foreign government to promote them right and Billy said quote I ain't a foreign agent in spite of this crap we ain't took a damn dime babe sure Billy that's not legally clearing sure babe the FBI when he returns the FBI immediately starts following Billy okay the State Department publicly objected him representing a terrorist government all right things are good things are good Congress begins discussing an investigation into Billy and Libya now all of this is really bad business for

the business of Billy Carter he lost an upcoming gig on the Hollywood squares and then other appearances start to be canceled the Atlanta Journal wrote an editorial saying quote Billy Carter isn't funny anymore he's getting to be downright dangerous this is I mean this is this I mean really this is a microcosm of celebrity yes is what this is why you don't elevate everybody and why you don't you know fuel the flames of this sort of behavior because it does well it's you're creating a monster and then eventually you're just gonna be like yeah you're too rude yeah well I mean look the guy this is also just such

a like the way this country thinks is the guys using racial slurs and he's saying anti-semitic things and he's bashing women left and right but when he goes and hangs out with Libya then he's the bad guy right but when he was when he was talking shit about all the the people in America who are oppressed that's fine right so there's nothing in his there's nothing in his character that's that's different from what he is no and that is it's still it's still this that's still the same yeah where yeah so all of this like he's lost all of his gigs he's now being investigated this all leads to Billy realizing that he's an

alcoholic and on March 6 1979 he checks himself into the Long Beach Naval Hospital for treatment of alcohol abuse and Billy Carter sobers up wow in 1980 this Senate I said what they made a beer after me I wish I could try it no you don't you wonder if he was a blackout drunk because being a blackout drunk in front of the press must be the craziest thing to get up every day and read about what you did in the paper yeah right yeah right yeah yeah it's all I mean but it's also like you know alcoholism on that level like you definitely affects your memory just in general too you know yeah yeah so in 1980 the Senate held

hearings to investigate Billy's relationship with Libya the press named it Billy gate just Billy said it was just a business deal to buy oil through legit company which other American companies were doing that's my favorite thing about American laws against doing business with terrorists except we're happy to buy the royal yeah of course that's a big big component in the foreign policy it turns out so what he had received was $200,000 in cash from Libya but Billy said it was a loan against future deals I have five saddles on layaway Congress after their after their hearings and investigation they

find no criminal conduct so there's no criminal charges but they did conclude Billy had shown quote bad judgment oh I love way to go Congress always just so fucking good at your job yeah we'll just task force our way out of this again he agreed to register as a foreign agent and declared the 200,000 as payment for services instead of as a loan so he did do wrong no it doesn't sound so he did wrong that's a just so we're understanding he did do wrong he didn't sign up to be but I didn't do anything no I found him innocent of something he was clearly guilty of doing no it's not that's not the way I choose to view it

actually so so his promo gigs were completely over his income plummeted and then the IRS came asking for the taxes he should have paid on the 200,000 he's out of money he has no money he can't pay them so in 1981 Billy had to sell his gas station his house and his other assets the new gas station owner sold Billy Carter souvenirs that's nice that's nice it's nice to see that like what capitalism is you're undoing there's still like don't worry there's capitalism behind that business also failed as did every other business that tried to take over the gas station after 1981 Billy would speak at alcoholism prevention

events and he often started his speeches with quote I was once the most famous drunk in the United States I mean that's really got to be something being an alcoholic and being that like you're known for being an alcoholic and then you have to sober up like it's just got to be such a crazy it's got to be a very I mean it's like you feel like I wouldn't even say like embarrassment but whatever you feel like regret that it gets but to publicly have to go through all that is just and look let's be honest at the time you're considered a pussy if you sober up that's just what there was no there is no oh cool that's good on

you for sobering up it was respect you right yeah people are probably like throwing six packs at him like Billy have won absolutely I mean it truly makes your life even it's harder to quit you're associated with beer you've had your own beer your celebrity everybody's gonna try to get you to drink yeah in 1981 classified ads started appearing in newspapers around the country offering $1,000 for unopened six packs of Billy beer now people who happen to have an old six packs started thinking they can make them a lot of money and then a couple weeks later the exact same paper would run another ad from someone who

had a six pack of Billy beer that they were offering to sell for just $200 so it's clearly a scam a guy is making people think it's worth more and then trying to get them to buy it for 200 he's newspaper ad inflating okay yeah he's just yeah so it's a scam but now a lot of people think Billy beer is gold the New York Times printed a story that had a can collector saying Billy beer was only worth around 50 cents or a buck a can but then someone wrote in a letter to the editor saying he had just been offered $600 for a six pack so even though the New York Times is trying to bust this myth that it's not worth any

money people are still trying to value something that's not worth anything you know it's actually why I put all my money in Billy coin and remember this is a time when men and my father was one of them but a lot of men were collecting Playboy magazines because they were all convinced that a full set of Playboy magazines would be worth tons of money in the future I've got your nest egg right here boy that's a down payment on a house for you right my dad called me when I was in college he's like what happened to the Playboys and what are you talking about and he goes there's something missing I'm like yeah my friends we were

fucking jerking off like I gave him out like it was I was I'm sorry what you left you left cocaine around a Trump what do you expect so Billy Lee after he loses his house and everything he leaves Plains and he goes to work for till the well industries in Alabama it's a mobile home manufacturing place he's a salesman okay in 1982 he moves to way across Georgia he's he's up in promotion for a mobile home business and then in 1984 he moves back to Plains his mother and sister Ruth died in 1983 of pancreatic cancer and then in 1987 Billy was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer while in the hospital he wrote his

memoirs he said he always took pride in being honest and that's what made him cringe when he thought of his endorsement of Billy beer quote it's the best beer ever tasted that's a lie of course it was the worst stuff I ever tasted you had to be an alcoholic to drink it he knows his demo he knows his demo and also like with all the shit you've done the shit you've said yeah yeah so he died of pancreatic cancer at the age of 51 on September 25th 1988 Billy was buried in a pair of jeans a shirt and a pink sports coat with no tie on his friend Tom T. Hall asked everyone to remove their ties at the wedding and they did

including Jimmy Carter at the funeral right and people Carter what no even Jimmy Carter removed he did even yeah and people still thought Billy beer is worth money even though it clearly had no value sellers found people who were dumb enough to buy it for a lot thinking it was worth so much more in 1988 the New York Times reported a couple in West Virginia bought an unopened sealed case for $2,000 oh my god Jesus Christ currently a can unopened can of Billy beer goes for about eight bucks on eBay I Dave I want I'm gonna order some I mean there's a whole there's there's a whole time period which isn't really

covered and and it's the drunken it's the fine with drunk guys period and I gotta say I thought drunk history be an abhorrent show there's people whose lives have been ruined by alcoholism and I don't think it's any different than having a show called heroin history it's just I don't know to me it's just fucking gross so we still do it in certain ways we still yeah but it's well this country promote I mean the this yeah truly I mean the fact that the struggle for legalization of marijuana took yeah and continues to struggle and and yet nationwide alcohol is not only accepted but heavily promoted yeah it

just I mean yeah it's just like anything else it's like once the money shows up who gives a shit about your feelings that's why I always love when like beer commercials are like and make sure you have a designated driver it's like go fuck fuck you asshole but this shit but at this time all sports had a drunk guy everybody knew you know what Rick Riggins for football literally passing out at the White House under a table when the Wendy went there for the Washington Redskins victory well yeah he passed out under a fucking table like this was just a time of just drunken buffoons and everybody was just like okay

you know that's who they are well at least we have white claw now I mean look no that is it's very true yes but good for him for sobering up I think like you said yeah he's a guy who you know someone ran across the street to give him a six-pack so he had to deal with that while he was sober and he stayed sober that we as far as we know so that's impressive but really that's what they say happened with with Farley is that he you know even when he was trying to get himself sober it many couldn't go anywhere yeah if you went anywhere people would not only try to

buy you a drink but once you said you weren't drinking they would try to force a drink yeah wow that is crazy I did not know and then Jimmy Carter now is a hundred and five and still building houses yeah he's super old and he's he's one of the fucking good ones I mean look he did he did bad shit when he was a president they all do but he's he's definitely hands down the greatest ex president in American history without a doubt yeah yeah and you see that your words are delicately used there because if he was any better he would have been killed yeah I mean he's not he's not hanging out with billionaires and you

know that shit he's building houses for poor people oh that's what he should have called his beer billionaires oh my god that would have been great billionaires or his own currency it was a trip wow crazy so let me let me let's just talk about when we're doing the Roger Clinton episode because I'm salivating oh my god I should do a Roger Clinton one I'm I'm curious I don't I like my guess is like presidential politics siblings obviously became a bigger issue because of Billy well he and so like Roger Clinton is was distanced I wonder the last time Bill Clinton talked to Roger Clinton at this

point I feel like Bill Clinton is legally a Martian I thought I thought he was Hillary's brother no Roger is Bill's brother if you see them what Roger Roger looks like if you smush Bill Clinton and Billy Ray Cyrus together but didn't Hillary also have a brother that was one of them was a one of them was a cocaine guy is that Roger he was a partier Rod Rick James Roder because that Hillary Clinton's brother I mean oh he was arrested on drunk driving it's his half brother he's arrested for drunk driving in 2016 Hill is brother is dead but he had fights over child support and he was the same thing he was getting into

business he shouldn't be in and that's the thing like people are gonna learn about it soon because Trump will use it but you know Biden's family is is sort of on this not not this but his son's amazing and his brothers just deep in shit like politicians always have these really fucked up families yeah right yeah well and then maybe the connection is that you're willing to totally sell out you know yeah maybe don't feel like that connection you know but that's still no excuse for what this country's turned into huh what do you mean I just how great everything is going really feels like we're at a well the good

thing is is if you just vote it'll all work itself out that is the best one that is the best one just just because it is true it would be nice it would be nice if that was it you know would be but this year it's not yeah it's just here we go it's definitely buckle up time all right yeah we did it get some Billy beer we we drive cars is always saying we drive cars