The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 503 - Governor Evan Mecham - part 1

Episode Date: October 19, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 you're listening to the dollop on the all things comedy network this is a bisexual American history podcast where each week I Dave Anthony read a story from American history to my friend and lover Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about and that is how we do an intro that's positive thank you now we're gonna make out great I'll play let's go all right I don't know if I can deal with the beard though all over my I would like you to shave I'll shave Aaron do you have a razor was that was that your mic that fell off are you happy to see me I don't even know is that you're gonna say it
Starting point is 00:00:39 again yeah is that your mic that because it went it went down yeah yeah is that well would I be happy to see you yeah I think I think when I think when you're happy to see me how's this for the odd are less excited you just happy right so you're saying I backwards boner yeah yeah I'm from like the planet bonus where it's different here when we're turned on our dicks are limp and when we're I can't regular our dicks are hard I can't your earthlings are telling me that your penises are soft when you're not ready to I can't listen to any penis talk because I live with a 12 year old so please don't do it near me when
Starting point is 00:01:17 I'm from planet bonus because all I hear is boner talk we fuck flacid here penis penis boner boner that's all it's like trying to open a car door with a piece of cooked spaghetti that's what fornicating is to us on bonus and called it quote his jam patch yeah I'm the fucking hippo guy okay my name's Gary let it's good wait is it for fun and this is not gonna come to Tiggly podcast okay now hit him with the puppy you both present sick arguments oh actually we have fun we like to laugh we really do we like to laugh um so little shout out we lost a great American hero Colin Powell today obviously
Starting point is 00:02:17 very sad if you listen to this podcast and you think he was a great hero you're not listening hard enough I'm listening because to me Colin Powell helped cover up the my lie massacre that was part of what he did and that's how he moved ahead in the military sure and then he lied us into war and he knew at the time he was lying a lot of people are like no he didn't know he fucking everybody knew he was lying us into war we those of us who are anti-war like no those things he sang are totally false he went to the UN he lied us into a war it's it it doesn't matter how nice there's this weird disconnect where
Starting point is 00:02:59 everyone's like yeah but he's so nice and he's such a respectable man you can you can be a respectable man and be a fucking horrible person well we were saying before is like that it is the bar is so low so low that when a war criminal apologizes we're like that we need more of that yeah this guy we need but it feels like the show is lighter when we were talking about Planet Bonus yeah well I mean I just had to I just people just kept sending me stuff today and I was like yeah okay I get it he's terrible made the case well just everyone and everyone's like he's it's like John McCain these are bad people
Starting point is 00:03:35 guys we gotta figure out someone make the case that he was terrible by holding up a vial of his ashes for you they should I would love that May 12th 1924 year of our Lord Jesus Christ great great time and our Lord oh God who's the Mormon gentleman Joseph Smith and our Lord Joseph Smith Smith Smith Jimmy Smith Smith the Mormons worship Jimmy Smith's right that's right I found a bunch of plates Jimmy Smith's Evan Meacham was born into a Mormon family near Salt Lake City in Mountain Home Utah okay is this the story of Mormon Mormons Marvel Mormon Mormons his father was a farmer they had six other
Starting point is 00:04:26 kids his mother made the family clothes and they bartered for goods so she made the magic underwear she made the underwear and the shirts and the magic pants yeah how many magic things do they have I think it's just the undergarments are magic cuz yeah when God plucks you out of your clothes he's like not nude you're not that's right and then he takes you in your magic clothes and these yeah he calls him panties he picks you up by the back yeah but you're coming with me you chose right God calls him panties magic panties I love your panties nice earth panties they were you wearing it's God I know it's late no I
Starting point is 00:04:58 heard I'm upset are you up I don't want to I'm trying to sleep you got on those magic panties from her no I'm just wearing pajamas I'm just in the toga sandals got a little beard waxing okay well that's what it always is are you having trouble sleeping no you think it would help your magical earth panties no why don't we meet up I don't want to meet up let's dress each other in your stuff let's take off your stuff and see if I fit in it because I'm so much bigger wait oh me am I turned on Frank is that you Frank are you in my crawl space this is the Lord Frank this is the Lord do you can I have some Gatorade thirsty the
Starting point is 00:05:47 grew crops they had 25 cows Evan and his brother milk the cows every day like sin and see oh she lady did this to our Peckers the Lord and judge her it's hmm his senior class had 30 students okay so not all those sure his siblings and moved out by the time he was a senior so he missed his fall term in high school because he was harvesting okay yeah I wish I got I wish I could use that excuse yeah I was harvesting oh no problem take a seat boy well you missed a lot about algebra but if you were out there harvesting what can we yeah we're shucking the wheat shucking the wheat were you yes right in other
Starting point is 00:06:29 words the wheat was shocked by I shucked it all right well I don't see any red flags here okay we're gonna go walk through the basics of algebra okay this is where I stopped talking and you begin again okay I'm out of algebra vamp so the family sold most of the cows when he went to Utah State Agricultural College because no one was there to milk them except his mom and she couldn't you know handle a woman's hands are never utterless in this house I would just keep them in the house and you can squeeze them as you do other stuff right sure you do we are looking for like a Flintstones kitchen well instead of
Starting point is 00:07:09 getting rid of instead of getting random you just have a you like like if you're doing like you're doing the dishes you couple squirts sure back to doing the couple clearly someone who's done a lot of dishes and cow squeezing you ain't gonna soapy up that you get kind of a sudsy utter hand yeah you can they like that they're like a clean utter that's the penis day it's less slippery that's that you brought the men in yeah well that's okay whatever as long as I get the juice and my milk curled 1943 he joined the Air Force and he flew reconnaissance in World War two until he was shot down captured interrogated
Starting point is 00:07:46 and held for 22 days Jesus okay so he married his high school sweetheart while he was recuperating Florence Lambert they were married in the Salt Lake Temple while he was on leave okay his father died that year in 1947 he went to Arizona State University and sold cars part-time okay in 1950 with his savings and alone from his mom he bought a Pontiac dealership and he's a hoey it's just like I always think that but I mean we've gone through some but the idea of ever being able to do that in the world we live in now is just like yeah it's like not possible no it's not possible and look it was a very small car dealership
Starting point is 00:08:30 it was a garage but it was still a dealership right but yeah no you can't do that Native Americans must be so happy with the testament yes of Pontiac yes yeah we made this car for you we do that we have the Braves and the National League thank you that's just we never we never stop giving we are gracious yeah even in our taking we are absolutely pat ourselves on the back thank you well done white thank you thank you so the locals were mostly Latino mine workers okay time Evan said he sold them quote Mexican Cadillacs sure okay great cool okay took me a second but now a fully processed and all right he made
Starting point is 00:09:13 enough money to buy the Pontiac dealership in Glendale ooh the big one so that's a much bigger town he appeared in his own TV ads he was one of those guys our dealer in the TV ads I talked to Jesus Christ himself this morning and he assured me each one of these Pontiacs is brought to you by God get a little bit of God's eyedroppers in each one of these male motors come on down to Glendale Pontiac we're bigger what you said male that's right he's put a male tear huh huh you said I'm in the middle of something right now be real about 30 seconds to cut these you move you we saw the it was cars first
Starting point is 00:09:48 Pontiac huh and what the ad it was a cars it is still a car and I got into a weird boner not a bone nobody's anything about a boat we are live right now you said nothing about a motor in each one of these motors God has not put his wagon any of these motors no no no on the contrary each one of these motors is filled with a little bit of God's blood each Pontiac comes with the pistons is stimulating each other and they got God's blood in them that's right you don't need oil changes in this car cuz you gotta drop a God's blood come on down to Glendale Pontiac my name is Evan I had 25 cows growing up fuck
Starting point is 00:10:19 this guy off camera who talked about boners what the last part man you really don't come around when we shoot these anymore he's very active in the LDS church at 28 1952 Evan ran for the Arizona House of Representatives as a Republican and he lost okay okay and then he ran for the state Senate in 1960 and he won okay now there are only four Republicans in the 28 seat Senate in Arizona at the time okay wow that's crazy yeah a higher up Republican Party member said Evan was a quote crappy legislator okay so he runs so his campaign was anti-socialist and he talked about a lot about how Christian he
Starting point is 00:11:13 was like that was mostly what the campaign was sure which is very similar to today and that hasn't changed mm-hmm a group of young women sort of following him and they were nicknamed Macho Mets the Macho Mets yeah Macho Mets I guess it's Macho Mets he's he's Evan Macho so there were the they were called the Macho Mets it's terrible I know how about the Evan Herron okay that's well here I am because the impression that these the fucking them all the time these are just like fans no like Raiderettes okay they don't get fucked in quite a distinction we have going on in the primary so he's running for
Starting point is 00:11:54 state saying in the primary Evan spread rumors that his opponent had an illegitimate child what's what you do yeah I just yeah it's and he won the primary which is a huge upset and then he ran against a very old Democrat incumbent who was he was like 85 hospitalized at one point I show him who's got a group of women who follow him around you don't those are nurses you you ain't seen a group of women follow we're around unless you come into my hospital those are all those are nurses they don't leave my side they're they don't leave my side scared you're gonna die because they believe in what I am
Starting point is 00:12:37 doing so strongly what are you doing it's governing from the left you yes now yeah you think you watch this I hit this button they come running in you have that with you Macho Mets I don't think so oh god almighty there's a lot of blood coming out of me right now never I'll show you I've never wanted anyone to die more I will even if I am seeing the light must not go there for must be to have been made from instead Lord I feel I must take on true form oh god well Evan's campaign started the rumor that the Democrat was dead and it was being hidden it's still didn't work he lost wow that is really like that I mean that
Starting point is 00:13:43 because we deal now in things where it is so hard sometimes to even prove these things because they're just so invented or bizarre yeah but that's a pretty one to disprove that's all yeah and this guy is just like see I'm here all right well wait oh the liar is in the campaign so Evan me not dead yet that's my slogan so Evan was a John Berger we haven't covered the John Bergers yet but they're very very far right wing group cool I'm very influential of like all the right wingers we have today great he said Eisenhower was a communist and Nixon was a huge liberal oh my god oh no I mean there's a couple things Nixon did where
Starting point is 00:14:24 you could be yeah you could argue today Evan would be considered a Democrat I'm Nixon would be considered a Democrat I mean a lot of the demo a lot of a lot of those Democrats are on that same sort of yeah yeah I mean it's there's some similar stuff there Evan took voice lessons to help his campaign skills me me me me me a fellow student called him quote a cold removed person he seems as if he lives in moth balls oh my lord wow okay in 1964 Evan announced his candidacy for an open US Senate seat okay wow and then the governor jumped into the race the governor of Utah of Arizona sorry so Evan dropped out and ran for
Starting point is 00:15:13 governor instead weird move yeah yeah that's like what someone cuts you off in traffic and you're like alright fuck it I'll go to your lane yeah show you how good you had it Evan put out put out a he would always put out fact sheets whenever he ran and he would drop them at Republican voters houses okay so he put out a fact sheet attacking his fellow Republican he said Arizona had fallen into quote the category of unclean states of the nation so he's attacking the previous governor and the guys running against at the same time right party leaders are furious Evan loses the primary and then he supports
Starting point is 00:15:48 the Democrat in the general election wow okay and then he went back to his dealership and he just was that's quite a bold exit yeah fuck everybody I'll show you he goes back to his dealership he's there for like ten years and then 18 and then he gets the bug again yeah and in 1974 he runs again for governor right now the Republic which is the big newspaper wrote that Evan now had a to pay and looked a lot better you can throw up the picture of him now so they're like look he's got a to pay he's got to pay it's way better yeah look he didn't look as shitty looks like a human human person he's got a okay so he comes in
Starting point is 00:16:27 second in the primary and then he runs again in 1978 against a very popular politician and this time he uses he uses his car commercials to campaign and he yell about inflation for most of it and then at the end of be like and get a Pontiac wait a second he would so he was like well I can't afford to make my own political ads and I do already have this platform where I have to make my car ads yes so what I should do is just do a sweet combination yeah for too long for too long the Liberal Democrats have been trying to give away social programs playgrounds medical everything it's unbelievable we need somebody's gonna
Starting point is 00:17:07 drastically come in and change put money back in your pockets the problem is a big government the problem isn't small government the problem is government that's who's trying to get away by the way this weekend we've got the lowest APR financing of the entire year come on down ho ho ho it's Christmas down at Glendale Pontiac I think I'm gonna get a Ford huh and vote Democratic that's exactly the opposite of the message yeah no I didn't like it my name's Evan Meacham and I'm running for Republican seats again speaking of seats leather interior mm-hmm don't mind if I do-do-do so he puts out his fact sheets again
Starting point is 00:17:44 this time he wins the GOP primary and everybody the Republican Party is just shocked like I can't believe this guy fucking won okay right yeah and he's still attacked Republicans as much as Democrats okay he'd lost but it was a lot closer than anyone thought it would be okay and in 1982 he ran again he conceded in a car commercial there's a tough fuck campaign I had so much help along the way my wife and a lot of my supporters people who were working the phones knocking on those doors everything like that once again come on down to Glendale Pontiac this weekend we got some great savings for you guys
Starting point is 00:18:16 thank you so much for all your help and support so he wrote he wrote a pamphlet called come back America and drop their Republican houses he's very much a Reagan Republican sure and even more like even he's like get rid of the EPA get rid like he's like that one of those guys which we now know is a great decision so no one cares about him he's running no one cares there was a public forum with the three other candidates no one asked Evan a question he just stand there the whole time okay he lost okay in 1986 Burton Bar runs for governor it's a big big popular politician the Republic paper ran a huge two-part story on how
Starting point is 00:18:57 awesome he was and only one man was brave enough to run against him uh-oh Evan Meacham here we go bar ignores him completely Evan's main advisor said quote it's not socially acceptable in some circles to admit your voting for Evan Meacham okay wow he sent fact sheets to Republicans again and Republicans this time came out hard against Evan and bar ran a shit campaign okay tons of money was spent no one knew how it had been spent what it was spent on they just everyone just assumed he was the guy right he was gonna win uh-huh it rained on primary day lowest turnout in decades and Evan won 54 to
Starting point is 00:19:39 46 percent even though they all hated him the Republican party now got behind Evan that's so strange so now it's it's a Republican everyone hates against a dem and then an independent dem jumps into the race oh boy so it's a dem an independent and an independent dem and Evan just sits back and watches them attack each other this is before he wins this this is the pride and he won the primary right now he's now he's in the general election okay right okay so he lets the two fight each other and he just sits back and Reagan endorses him okay it's a picture with Reagan sure Evan took a 300 300 300 from earlier in the
Starting point is 00:20:22 hospital don't know it was me Ronald Reagan the whole time Evan took a 300,000 dollar campaign loan from a prominent prominent Republican family and that ran out quick and then a guy working on the campaign Horace Lee Watkins said he knew two guys who under certain conditions would give him a line of credit of six hundred thousand dollars mm-hmm sure this is again the Christian Mormon character yeah very religious right Evan then went and assured them their involvement would be kept confidential no one would know they gave him a lot that he's like don't worry I'm not gonna mess up your
Starting point is 00:20:58 reputation as loan sharks it's really understandable you guys can gab about me all you want I want to protect you guys that's what matters to me okay they're developers okay if you can imagine them being bad right Evan's brother Willard opened a new bank account and the two men wired the money in and then a check was written from that account into the campaign account okay and then Evan never reported it okay and that is legal it's amazing it's not of course it's not it's amazing what you know it's like it's one thing to be religious and to be like led by the you know tenements of you know your whatever scripture it is or
Starting point is 00:21:43 whatever it's another thing to believe that you are so chosen by this person in the clouds who has a beard and mandals that you could do anything that you can like break the laws that are supposed to be part of the system God yes but it's like it's an asterisk if it's like but I will be serving what God wants I'm allowed to bend the rules that's what that's what a lot of them right so not one paper endorses Evan he loved not getting the endorsements of the biggest paper the Republic quote since I have no respect for the basic integrity of the Republic it would be inappropriate for me to accept their endorsement I am the
Starting point is 00:22:27 one who cannot be controlled I am the man of the people okay I'm not going to talk about Trump because it's too easy you should only say it now because it's really it's his car dealership was put on probation even if they did endorse me I would not be okay with it so his car dealership was put on probation by the Arizona car dealers association I mean is that who the hell even knew that was a thing you're on car probation because he never responded to one ethics complaint he had like over 35 or something and he never he was like yeah whatever okay the independent was leading so the independent candidates
Starting point is 00:23:07 ahead uh-huh but then 10 days before the election he said school boards weren't effective because housewives served on that's like you're five miles ahead of marathon you're gonna cut my own Achilles see how I do without that there we go that's tough that's harder he also said public schools gave kickbacks he was cocky he had that runner like yeah I'm in charge so a lot of people didn't even vote uh-huh and Evan meet him one okay he was now the governor of Arizona wow on inauguration day the president of the Mormon Church sat next to Evan wow good lord he's their guy during the ball Evan walked between two
Starting point is 00:23:56 long lines of the National Guard it felt like a coronation mm-hmm his support came from Mormons old people and John Birchers Evan believe God had brought him to reform Arizona yeah see it's it's this it's I keep thinking about the biblical thinking of like it's such a bummer that the like you know the ideas that some point there will be fire and carnage and all these things because it's like if that's where you think we're headed and that's the that's the end game you're like excited to get there you can make it happen so he ran on rescinding the previous governor's
Starting point is 00:24:37 executive order of creating a paid holiday for Martin Luther King Jr. Wow of all the fucking things quote it doesn't have anything to do with race or with Martin Luther King it does what is he's then getting him getting rid of it has nothing to do with Martin King or race it's just another reason yeah what about Columbus Day no that one's great that one's good that's he's was awesome it most Arizonans were against MLK holiday and Evan believed MLK was a womanizing commie quote he is perhaps no more worthy or more unworthy than a lot of people in the country that's just so he says it's not about MLK and then he
Starting point is 00:25:21 attacks MLK well and it's also that it's like you know again I mean it's these things that are when it when it becomes culture worship it's just like yeah you know what it really doesn't take a lot to stoke that fire but how about dealing with some of these enormous issues but it's like no of course not I'll just do the thing that makes them be like yeah he's like me yeah not racist but just believes that the man who led the civil rights movement should not be you should not be paid to have that day off that shouldn't be a day no it's nothing to do with race no it's just it's the holiday I'll be honest I was
Starting point is 00:25:55 unaware that Martin Luther King was black you're the one you're the one who's bringing race into this yeah because I didn't even do to me that I thought he was a white man I did too you say that he's well then I we both I mean I guess that from Arizona also yes so well okay I mean now that I know I'm not going to allow race to change my opinion about something I wouldn't hate that's what I'm being accused of doing why don't you want the holiday Martin Luther King Junior holiday yeah I won't honor juniors that's fair it's not I didn't mean the senior yeah me that's who I honor yeah but even then if you pitch
Starting point is 00:26:30 Martin Luther Martin Luther King juniors father I have an issue with that though oh yeah there's an issue with that you can't have days named after people with three names okay it's so confusing and I just think King what is this a monarchy what I'm like kind of going like how does that even so this guy was a king do you mean King Martin Luther because then I'm going like wait are you talking about like like a like England I'm like kind of like why are we celebrating in English so do you see what I'm saying like it's just okay so so I again I just found out that this guy is a black man I did not know that let
Starting point is 00:27:11 me just it to me it's just the names it's very it's a very very he was very well known you didn't know he was I've heard of it absolutely I've heard of him and I think the things he did were great I just that again it's like so you're the king of the Martin Luther like who are they like oh you're king of Lutheran I got that it doesn't it's so wordy and confusing it's not so we're just gonna not make that a holiday okay and and and and and then people still work you know because it's so confusing and then I think we do like a simple day like I'm I don't we celebrate you know I don't know like a lot luck no no I'm just
Starting point is 00:27:49 thinking about person like you know Scott Bayo I don't know I mean we do Scott Bayo day I'm not even I'm not even saying it's him but that's a name that I go boom that's like that's a poppy yeah it's not a confusing name it's not a confusing name it's a this is a bad place well I don't want to tell I'm just I'm shooting you straight here I just I know because you tried to bring race into it that's fair yeah okay you make a good thank you so Evan goes to meet with black leaders in Arizona he's a dick he said to them quote some of some of my best friends are black I mean I hope that word has gotten out that that's
Starting point is 00:28:34 fully not because I still feel like if the people still say shit yeah like there's still like for absolute no I go to the gym as black guys there I took a picture with like six black people and said who let the dogs out what is happening he's like I know what black people sing high school students wrote him 81 letters about the holiday and Evan wrote back quote I can tell from the tone of your letters that your studies concerning his life and times have been somewhat less than objective because of his personal life that that's what you take it and again Columbus I know how are you able to bridge how is how did
Starting point is 00:29:27 nobody stop that argument dead in its tracks yeah I mean having Columbus holidays like having a murder rape holiday and just like being like that's a good one Martin Luther King what I don't like is Martin Luther King kind of rocked Columbus's boat a little bit little bit so Evan was exactly a deep thinker he said Arizona should solve it water issues by running a pipe up from the sea of Cortez which is difficult because the sea of Cortez is both in Mexico and it's saltwater yeah the salt I was gonna flag immediately but how great would it be if instead of the oil pipelines like pipe three that they're
Starting point is 00:30:06 like instead of those if there were water pipe oh no that's took the snow it's a hundred percent places and brought it's a hundred percent clearly what we should be doing right but instead we're like oil they're they're talking about infrastructure you're like yeah there's very clear infrastructure we need to build right now you want to say Phoenix yeah oil pipe get some fucking water pipe oil pipe so reporters heard that Evan's portrait had been put over the state seal in the lobby of the art art art so so it's pulling some big they asked the press secretary brand yes the press secretary and he's like that's
Starting point is 00:30:46 not true that that's not a thing and then they were reporters like well let's see no we can prove it no no no it goes over and takes it off and it was covering the seal that's that early these early moves that moment where he moves the picture and it's just like oh huh what are you okay I guess he did do it is there any more questions everyone on the radio and announced quote the church I belong to does not allow homosexuals to participate under any circumstances so the very next day a good morning America segment was going to be taped with schoolchildren and Evan and it was canceled when a member of his
Starting point is 00:31:33 staff told the crew to move the black children away from the governor oh my god hey I like hey can we revisit Martin Luther King Jr. Day now I like what I like what's happening here with him and the kids great great yeah we feel like it's a good we get more shows him as in this kind of paternal yeah yeah I just feel like around him there should be more white yeah no sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry the problem is that that's we're not gonna make I don't even want to have the conversation I don't even want to have the conversation it's it's bad for his image yeah no that's a bad I guess maybe he should change his image
Starting point is 00:32:12 that's not a thing so we just want to get some of these kids can't hear you so we would rather be outside who it but what is the poll and then just they won't even be on film all what they won't be film around it feels like it's a bad representation Mormon I understand that but it's yeah it's a thing great okay yeah okay so we're going to we canceled this right we did okay we're gonna cancel this okay just because of what you said is crazy okay it's just like you know there's stuff people say in there you know like I remember him saying that some of his friends are black which is you know not a good not a
Starting point is 00:32:50 good look please shut up it's not a good way they're they stand away I again that's not what a friendship is but but this is so really awful that we're actually gonna have to we can't have you or him around the kids isn't that totally crazy that is totally crazy we let priests talk to these kids and you and he were not going to let near them did you understand that I swear to God listen if you understand the situation though he's white and they're black I'm very aware of the point you're making it's just okay such a terrible thing that I kind of don't even know what to do he won I kind of he's got I don't give
Starting point is 00:33:34 a shit I kind of don't know what to do like as someone who like works like I'm like should I even bother work should I show up for jobs anymore yeah or maybe the thing to do is to just pull the the bed out from the couch in the living room just get a bunch of that nacho cheese sauce and just kill myself with it just end it all just because what's the point why go further why live why not just drowning cheese sauce when humans like you and here walking around making discernments like this so casually and unprovoked are you moving are you moving them or not the shoot is not happening how much more clear can I make that
Starting point is 00:34:11 there are no kids that are gonna be around you I personally am just right now wondering do I want to just drive in my car until it runs out of gas and then I'll just walk till I run out of gas and that's kind of just where I'm at because I'm like this whole conversation is just ruin my brain like my brain is I came in here like ready to do this like I'd line the kids up but now I'm sort of like you know what matters just being done you know I don't want to know that you and I have the same organs in the same spot governor doesn't like it when you come here and put your values on Arizona I think of what you said to me
Starting point is 00:34:50 oh my god so people are already talking recall we're like a couple weeks in sure Evan hired a former state rep John Bircher and now lobbyist Donna Carlson to be as go-between with the legislature amazing many hires John Bircher and a lobbyist and you're like that's no no she was all those things she was a John Bircher oh that's cool multi hyphenate that's lobbyist she was now the state leader who of the organization trying to stop the Equal Rights Amendment she later said how do you like it's amazing because it keeps happening where the indefensible like they're like well no here's why yeah but like this is like
Starting point is 00:35:35 she's now like a life coach in Colorado or something like it's hilarious that's cool so she later said Evan believed he secured office by divine right and this should be a flag for a lot of people now one of Evan's big thing is we think that God picks governors and that should not be considered crazy it's not well there's a big majority that want that thank you majority but there's a big group of people that want that that's right because that's how the Lord works he picks football games on Sunday is day off and then he picks political candidates don't be stupid about what he is and isn't so ever one of Evan's big things
Starting point is 00:36:10 was he wanted to roll back one cent of the sales tax which essentially is gonna do nothing for people but it would cost the state 320 million but that take a penny leave a penny thing yeah will never be more flesh never more well it's not copper when republicans tried to explain it wasn't worth it he loses shit he'd yell he'd swear and he'd pound on tables so he has like temper tantrums is there any evidence of that if you tell him that me something here right yeah so they realize he he was gonna lose his temper and when he did lose his temper he got his way like that became very obvious it's good and it's
Starting point is 00:36:49 good to set that precedent where you're like this is how you can get what you want now jessie jackson came to arizona mm-hmm and he and the guy Lee this is gonna be handled the great he and the governor were flying to swearing in of a Navajo tribal chairman and Jackson took the time to talk to Evan about the MLK holiday and after the conversation he said I think Evan got it I think he understands you know how important it is thank you for flying play cash in air at play cash in air whatever you've pitched Evan on he's gonna make you feel like you understood and he didn't go out the next day Evan said he was
Starting point is 00:37:23 rescinding the MLK day he officially announced it wow talking to Jackson the next no he's oh he's he's he's not listening his previous opinion the holiday right okay right that feel I was for a moment very people in Evan's circle told reporters he relished doing it because the previous Democratic governor had created the holiday so yeah I mean it it is this is so replicated now in a way where it is just it is ridiculous it's like how people feel like things are getting accomplished by un by undoing it's like well that means maybe the thing you want done isn't done but now what's done nothing's done yeah
Starting point is 00:38:06 but they don't want anything I know which is not it's not a great it's not a great push he appeared with a very sad Jesse Jackson at a press conference and said quote we don't have race problems in Arizona now mr. Jackson could step a few feet away from me you're mucking up the whiteness he said he was not a big it and these things you're not it's like they are telling you keep saying these things that you're not it's really some point it feels like you're saying it then on the today show Evan told Jackson that he lacked moral leadership the revenue of the state's biggest black church now called for a
Starting point is 00:38:46 boycott against Arizona okay conventions and concerts were canceled and Evan was like perfect Evan thought this would be a great time to ask for a list of all gays who were employed by the state of Arizona so he well the idea that he's like boy it feels really good when everyone hates you cracking the gaze he said he had nothing special in mind he just wanted the list yeah of course not of course right I'm gonna be a bit of a gay Santa this year that's all that is a gay staff member immediately resigned Evan also agrees so he picked an appointee and the appointee said that women having jobs
Starting point is 00:39:29 leads to divorce I mean what is going on and they asked him about that and he said quote I believe that is a given fact oh my god now the word picking any had been used in a conservative book and someone brought it up and it became like a little bit of a thing and then Evan got questioned about it and he said quote as a boy growing up blacks themselves referred to their children as picking any's that was never intended to be an ethnic slur with anybody he didn't understand why any black people would object to him saying this I mean it really it's and these not things I'm not I'm not I'm glad they're out in the
Starting point is 00:40:15 open because it would it is better to know that but would you not think that behind closed doors I mean our shouldn't because yeah like wouldn't some I mean I guess it's kind of trumped because there's a world that people live in where they say these things and no one ever questions them because it's just people like them but these aren't even dog whistles like these are dogs sirens you know this guy clearly this is a dog in which he is always racist and always sexist and always and you surround yourself and everybody around you yourself with the people who it might say something about the Mormon church at
Starting point is 00:40:45 this time I'm sorry Aaron can we take a five minute break turns out the book that had the word picking any had been written by Evan's mentor oh okay so there we go let me guess a white man yeah so a black house member goes on the floor denounces Evan Evan tells reporters he had used picking any in a historical sense he said I mean you there's a lot of terrible terms that you can make that argument for with that yeah well you can use a word but I mean still to be like it was at one point a relevant term it's like yeah okay yeah stop yeah then he said he didn't understand why blacks objected to picking
Starting point is 00:41:34 any so he's saying he's also like it's okay right and he was angry quote I'm not a racist I've got black friends I employ black people I don't employ them because they're black a huge hook is coming out trying to wrap around him as he's still talking I employed them at the hook because they are the best people who applied look isn't that for the cotton picking job we got get the fucking hook around the guy's fucking oh my god and people are like okay well we're gonna take a break so picking it now becomes a national story good now it's all over the country good Evan replaced the incredibly respected state liquor superintendent so the guy who's
Starting point is 00:42:25 in charge of liquor revenue and all the liquor stuff don't worry I'm on top of everything he picked an ex-cop Alberto Rodriguez for the job so Rodriguez walks into the superintendent's office moments after Evan fired him on the phone so like literally that he hangs at the phone and Roberts walks in right right Rodriguez you get your stuff out of here are you gonna be a while and then can you leave the plant they talk for a bit he goes can I have your badge may please have the badge the super that he did that to you can I have your badge and then where did you get the stationery because I just want to change the header
Starting point is 00:43:03 on a bunch of it so the superintendent the superintendent should I talk to before you I guess I came to me and I need to wait too early to go anything I should know about the desk and he draws creek or not like that I need to get it out okay get that stuff out there's a box here there's a grocer's box I put here but this chair looks a little imprinted is that you your bigger fella okay I'll probably need one with a little bit more of a I gotta go me cushion to it bathroom again if you don't want to talk about this stuff I don't what where is it and is there is there a private one the window and walk out the window
Starting point is 00:43:37 it's out there haha that's fun is there a private bathroom I get or is it the public one that everyone else uses public is a public to the stall doors all the way to ground I hate when the stall doors you know what I hate I hate with the stall doors don't go all the way to the ground so if they don't go the way here's what I'll do and I'll just say this I'm just talking out loud you don't even need to be here for this but what I'll do is even if they don't go all the way to the ground I'll say let's make a couple with them go out it's as simple as a door do you have a bathroom contact number just so I can
Starting point is 00:44:06 kind of leapfrog any logistical problems who's the secretary should I talk to no yeah I'm well I'm here it's probably her I mean let's be honest we're all friends here oh my gosh this is exciting okay well I have your tie so the superintendent had to drive home to get his badge and bring it back to give it to Rodriguez honey you're back early be back Rodriguez immediately took it and drove to his hometown and showed the badge off to everybody in this town and that's a good sign right where that's your first thing to do two days later the Republic reported where Rodriguez was being investigated for murder after he
Starting point is 00:44:47 had chased someone across the border into Mexico and executed it okay so probably why he was showing the badge off he's like can you believe this shit I murdered Evan thought the investigation was an attempt to embarrass him by the attorney general even though the murderer had happened way before in the investigation that already started before he picked him so it is probably more of a tactic to just stifle anyone calling for resignation no I think he's out of his mind yeah good good Ralph Wright was picked to be the director of the Department of Revenue Revenue Evan said he was quote very well positioned
Starting point is 00:45:26 in the business world normally we wouldn't be able to entice a man of his qualifications it was quickly learned Ralph's bank had been blown up six years earlier and then gone bankrupt and he was now the manager of a Swenson's ice cream parlor he withdrew his nomination the next day wow so your bank's pretty good okay he's still got a bank I mean your bank gets blown up there's a probably some what do you just some stuff going on there like banks usually get blown up like people rob blank banks but they don't like blow it up you know a lot of that's a lot of that's a bad sign when
Starting point is 00:46:06 your bank gets blown up I don't I don't know then declaring bankruptcy like those are in conjunction in business with people who would blow up a bank like people at the bank I think you're thinking of another business banks pop all the time yeah that's why they're called the balloons of buildings and then you went bankrupt with your bank what it's called bankrupt okay it's different it's when you building blows up then you go declare bankruptcy now you're just an ice cream manager well I mean look you'd be surprised how applicable all the bank skills are to being able to scoop ice cream into different cones yeah it's
Starting point is 00:46:40 sort of like I always look at it as waffle cone checking cup savings little baseball helmet credit card and so I'm always given which where do you want to put I always even say that I go which account do you want it in and people go what does that mean I go waffle count is checking and so you'd be surprised it's very similar sherbert is bonds yeah we're done I don't want to talk to you anymore I don't make a hell of a time talking to you and yeah I just as a strange to you that you have it a negative experience very much so would you like a little no bonds and maybe a checking account so Donna Carlson thought
Starting point is 00:47:23 a few of Evan's nominees to head departments were quote frightening he cared about loyalty not expertise uh-huh and he wasn't running his picks by Republicans in the Senate who had to approve them okay his appointee for education was testifying and said quote if a student wants to say that the world is flat the teacher doesn't have the right to prove otherwise well did you hear that shit about did you hear that leaked audio from that like Texas teachers meeting the Holocaust yeah where she's like you know so say you're teaching the Holocaust maybe it's good idea to teach the other side to the
Starting point is 00:48:01 other I'm sorry the Nazis that's that's what he's they're trying to get at right seeing the other side of slavery right that's where that's going of course when asked if this if this was true about the teacher and student Evan said yes it was reporters heard Evan was going to create a new state anti-drug force and asked his assistant who denied it right as Evan was announcing it so he's literally like that's crazy of course yeah we're not gonna do that and right now plan move over scooter so he's creating the Arizona drug control service with 200 officers he named Horace Lee Watkins to head it remember what yeah I can say
Starting point is 00:48:44 guy help him get the loan yeah Watkins resign works yeah but Watkins resigned within a month because of all the shit that came out about him and Donna Sue soon realized Horace had been Evan's bagmander in the campaign so she's she's like she's oh fuck there's something wrong she's starting to realize because she is as horrible as she is with the John Bircher stuff and the against the equal rights she's still like I have line yeah she's like wow they're terrible crime right yeah right right the governor's office in Arizona is called the ninth floor sure it's in a big building I guess secretaries treated
Starting point is 00:49:20 anyone who had not worked on Evan's campaign like shit so there's a there's a bunch of staff that have always been there like in the White House's staff that are always there and everyone in the office was constantly described as inept including the chief of staff one house rep wondered how they could have an entire office of people angry at the system yeah I mean I thought I that was how like Trump ran in the last election was like it was like what's you're the president like he was like he was running against the president it's the whole Republican Party now they're all against the government yes Evan appointed his
Starting point is 00:50:03 ex-campaign worker slash private investigator as a special investigator to look at a state corruption observing him this guy a reporter said it was this as if the governor had grabbed some construction worker for the job like the guy clearly had no idea what he's doing right he's just like picking people who like him right right well gave him money or right or just weren't against them yes men yeah days later it was reported he lied about his arrest when he applied to be a PI in the military he went to the brig for two months for threatening a prisoner with a gun I mean like it doesn't even seem like it's deep vetting
Starting point is 00:50:39 it's not they're not like it's just like talk to someone who knows them there's literally no vetting at all right no vetting right the investigator called exciting in a way the investigator called the reporter who broke the story slime and threatened to break a chair over his head well I think we know who slime is clearly we know who slime is and then he withdrew his name from consideration you violent piece of shit I ought to kill you papers broke more information about Rodriguez he'd been accused of rape when he was a cop he broke a woman's back taking her out of a car he beat up a man outside of course
Starting point is 00:51:15 taking her out of a car yeah the murder happened when he shot an unarmed man in custody and Rodriguez denied all of it he said he'd never been convicted but he was withdrawn as an appointee still I feel like he should be like we should take another look at him for maybe crimes that he's out on the streets Evan said he had to be withdrawn because the Senate Senate would not give him a fair hearing they're gonna be you know they're not gonna be able to drop that bias thinking he was a murderer and broke some backs it's like I mean honestly they're not gonna look at both sides the thing the thing that I hate is
Starting point is 00:51:50 that in politics impartiality is officially dead yeah I mean you may as well chase impartiality to the middle of the Mexican desert and just shoot it in the back of the head execution style okay that's how gone it is that's right impartiality used to be the kind of thing that you did not need to drive across a border to shoot execution style yeah but here we are it is a sad state of affairs America's lost when when you take down unbiased opinions put it on its knees yeah and put a bullet in the back of its head like it's a rabid dog that's right I got young with your brother well you're my new chief who
Starting point is 00:52:34 stayed you the attorney general what do you do you just sitting here taking a crap near a cactus do you have a job you're not a new chief of staff so the attorney general was delaying criminal investigations into just anything because his office was spending so much time looking into Evans and pointies despite all this Evan still has a very loyal following of course because Dave God picked God picked him the speaker of the house quote certain people would vote for Evan to meet him if he raped a nun on this courthouse steps sorry I mean we thought like shoot him on Fifth Avenue was aggressive how can I make this
Starting point is 00:53:21 really let me mad live this sentence up a little bit instead of shoot rape it'd be good Fifth Avenue none on church steps some Mormons were now using support of Evan as a test for being faithful so some Mormons publicly said what cult critics of Evan were a threat to the church so the church is splitting yes but again I mean how fickle is your church when one dude is like the house of God is that chatterable one woman asked that the church take action against a political cartoonist who is critical of Evan and the cartoonist father was president of the LDS the governor supporters were
Starting point is 00:54:11 aggressive it's like it would be one thing if if there were these I mean I guess it's just whatever your dumb opinions were formed as a child go ahead well so the governor supporters were aggressively vocal which led to church members being too scared to speak up right Evan believe he had been a made governor by God sure his mentor a professional you should be locked up well but that's tons of people I know but that should be like a test of how we're like George Bush yes yes but that should be any time God tells you to run for something yeah that should be like we should just it should be we should
Starting point is 00:54:46 just be like yeah no that's not how it works his mentor professor BYU and a right-wing religious leader said quote he would attain the governorship to help America from going to hell in the handbasket of socialism and that Evan was a modern day Isaiah so you know they are always scared of socialism which isn't fucking happening anywhere with the least socialist fucking country in the world yeah but it's also like I mean I just I haven't read the fucking Bible but I mean I've it's in there yeah pretty much who is about social let's go yeah in the office have you not heard of the bread tax there's a bit of a loaf tax we
Starting point is 00:55:26 passed in the office workers who had not revealed their religion were suddenly and suddenly announcing that they were LDS the Mormons acted in unison staffers who had worked there for years started keeping quiet around their Mormon co-workers because they were worried they were spies and would rat them out perfect Evan had a huge picture of himself right behind his office chair that's always a very good sign near elevators near the elevators was a picture of Evan and a black athlete because Dave I really you know he has some black friends the name of the black athlete did not match the person in the
Starting point is 00:56:06 picture but okay I just jump in real quick because I feel like you're gonna point to that as in some way like like he's I don't even want to say using but for lack of a better term that he is just sort of that how do I put this you're gonna say that it's racist for a guy who's been accused of racism constantly because he is racist to put up a picture of a black man and get the name wrong you're you're gonna make that sound racist oh that's him yeah that toothpaste pretty good yeah it's not bad did they make teeth toothpaste yeah they should do that that'd be great so right so it's fracturing the office it's fracturing
Starting point is 00:56:52 the Mormons right which is a weird thing our underpants are ripping Evan's press secretary is horrific at his job he doesn't return reporters calls he never knew what was going on with the governor once a week he would send reporters somewhere saying the governor was speaking very far away but then it turned out he wasn't speaking there and he just had just sent them off it's so hard because it's like you're at the point where like the media that does have access to politicians are so disappointing that's sending them far on far drives for nothingness there is something gratifying yeah I like that
Starting point is 00:57:28 like Jim Acosta in the middle of a desert yeah these are good these are good report actually reading one of the guy the guy who wrote the book that I went off this was one of the reporters they're they're pretty good the press secretary began convinced the reporters were eavesdropping on staff meetings probably because they're hearing everything through leaks right right he put a radio on the floor and blasted rock music to scramble the bugs who did this the press secretary so when there's when there's meetings rock me it must have been Christian he's he must have ended so when there's rock me when
Starting point is 00:58:02 there's meetings he's they're doing a little hard to have a meeting right now you understand don't worry if this is off the record oyster cult don't worry I changed the word Reaper from well actually no it's creeper yeah that's good don't fear the creeper don't forget the creeper yeah it's good I need more okay let's take it from the top the reporters saw metal strips on the inside of the door it says putting strips around the frame of the door thinking that'll stop the sure yeah cuz your auditory senses are gas his press releases often misspelled words and sometimes we're just full of blatant lies he once tried to
Starting point is 00:58:48 leak a story about a political opponent but was so over the top the reporter wrote his story about the bad leak attempt oh wow story is the story so we're only a month in oh my god we're a month in I never I mean this is sounds like years yeah years yeah it's almost like every day isn't a little longer yeah we're right it does make your life feel longer yeah right so a month in everyone's riding with police security a he had previously so he's riding in the car and he'd previously asked an officer about his feelings about MLK day which you're not supposed to do and the officer said
Starting point is 00:59:36 I can't talk about politics okay wow what a time cuz then yeah they're not supposed to so Evan now he's riding with another officer and he asked about the previous officer he's like that guy and he says quote does he have any black blood oh my which is just a question you ask because I'm because I'm friends with a lot of people who do I know a lot of black blood people I know a lot of blood I'm I'm I'm I'm on a basketball team of the black blood guy I'm a racial vampire does he have black blood I just need to know and the officer said no he's a full blooded Hispanic and Evan says we'll transfer him wow just cuz he
Starting point is 01:00:16 wouldn't talk about it yeah he had previously asked for a female officer to be transferred because he didn't want to be alone with a woman these people sound familiar no no there's nothing about this that sounds familiar mother won't let me a columnist for the Gazette wrote a satirical piece about Evan at a governor's conference so Evan banned him from press conferences okay quote as far as I'm concerned he is a non-person that's it I mean what Bible did you read is there a page missing from most Bibles that's like and off the record Jesus was a total backstage diva God did he hate others so the press attacks Evan
Starting point is 01:01:04 because they're mad about this so he said the columnist should attend press conferences again so he's like okay he can go again but now he just ignores him okay so that's cool so the other reporters start just asking the question right the guy wants to ask and finally Evan walked off out of the press conference and this was played all of the news that's great how did I mean the the you just sound so paranoid if as a person in a role of leadership you're basically going like is that your question or did he ask you to ask that question like just answer the fucking question later when asked why he didn't
Starting point is 01:01:46 answer the columnist question quote who was he there oh the other problem is they're funny it's like absurdly funny I don't know how funny he was he might have been funny it's yeah he's not like like Trump had a definitely a funny edge to him yeah which was the main the main reason he was able to get away with everything he did it's the like he wrote that taboo line but it was like it really the way that a literation hacked the minds of like 40% of the population shifty shift yeah it's like that's enough for you yeah it is just so a month and a half later Evan said at a press conference quote you want to see
Starting point is 01:02:29 history made he's now gonna become a person and then he answered the columnist question so he's like I'm a king maker yeah Evan decided the media in Phoenix was out to get him a Republican legislative they treat me like I'm terrible Republican legislator quote this has gone from day-to-day shooting himself in the foot to blowing his brains out every day wow he attacked the press so often that the press became the story also newspaper subscriptions shot up right the media began writing about Evan's constant temper tantrums during meeting meetings and he publicly attacked reporters every day so now you
Starting point is 01:03:15 are in the zone of like yeah I mean where we shitty governor is good for media making money yeah he's good for media making money so the media is faced with the decision of you know not sensationalizing the sensational for money or being really straight forward ideally with media they would just get money from the government and no oversight and they can't look at ratings or yeah yeah yeah imagine imagine so Evan ran on bringing his business know how to the job right he's like I'm a businessman I'm gonna bring that to the governor's office because because if you if you know any of my government it's
Starting point is 01:04:09 about making money yeah reporters now dug into his business background so like alright let's see what this guy's about I don't do that turns out he had he had gotten gone into a Tacoma dealership with partners and at one point he borrowed money from the business to buy himself jewelry oh that's allowed that's a business right off right that's what jewelry a crown I need a cane with diamonds all right and if you heard of the governor's jewels we keep most of it he had also taken out a hundred and thirty thousand dollar loan against the business and given it to his Arizona dealership but the partners didn't know
Starting point is 01:04:56 this so so the partners sued Evan and then Evan agreed to buy them out he's like okay let's just end this I'll buy you out but he was laid on the installments and then when he became governor he just stopped paying them all together he's like well fuck it I'm governor now what are you gonna do I think that's legal yeah I'm not found an illegality in what you just mean it's like where is this pretty close to when Nixon had said the governor if the president doesn't it's not illegal president doesn't that it's not a crime his second appointee for the Department of Revenue turns out he had not paid
Starting point is 01:05:27 taxes okay I like that about you and his company had been suspended for not having insurance this guy's good good business the guy who's still running the department said it was a crime to not file an income tax return on time so Evan fired him you you go the you think that you go you with the bad stuff stay so good so then the Senate did not confirm his appointee hmm what about it what about him is there the one thing a guy who's taken over the Department of Revenue has to have had is to pay his taxes he paid he has to pay his taxes I mean not anymore so Evan fucking loses it and he calls a press conference and
Starting point is 01:06:08 said the Senate was rejecting the governor he said his appointee would be the number two man at the Department of Revenue so now he's gonna put the guy in the job as number two so and just tell him to run it by appointment yeah right because that's not yeah that's not right and then he just like it's a dog up for the real yeah okay he's now really losing his shit over the press in a meeting with five weeks in a meeting with two senators Evan spent the entire time raging about that calmness that he hated okay he called him a son of a bitch over and over and over one senator quote he seemed almost possessed it was
Starting point is 01:06:48 troubling at minimum now no legislators in Arizona will meet with the governor alone they're all like good we have to what they're gonna scare they're gonna kill me they um what would be a uh I guess congressional chaperone I don't really know how else to put this we would love it if someone would escort us just in case you know just security to meet with the guy in charge you watch me I watch you guys back yeah before they go in the meeting they're going there we do the two and then we'll get ready they're doing Navy Seal I duck if he looks makes eye contact you look at me I'll do the same thing we'll
Starting point is 01:07:26 pretend we're taking phone calls if he gets engaged okay ready guys we can meet with a son of a bitch we can do this okay we can do this and this is what we trained for let's go press so Donna Carlson's life becomes hell her job was to work with the legislature to keep things going smoothly but he's a fucking lunatic that's not happening she constantly had to come up with excuses for the latest horrible thing that Evan had said she began breaking down she would now just go to legislators offices to talk to them and just start bawling and crying so what brings you here today something to talk
Starting point is 01:08:06 about what is it about the equal rights amendment yeah but we fucking crazy I understand that but okay but yeah but you but you you're here to pitch him to murder yeah but you need I mean I don't yet I understand but at some point I think you need like that's our point just it's just that you I don't feel like you're selling his agenda okay well here there's actually I slept here a few weeks ago there's a pillow here if you want to talk about that getting a tax bank we're a pencil factory I think I think that went pretty well Republican senators met with Evan to
Starting point is 01:09:15 try to smooth things out and when they brought up imagine like we'll go meet with him that'll fix it when they brought up that Evan had been asking people to pressure senators Evan stood up and yelled quote you've never helped me the less legislators now began discussing Evan psychosis sure in a meeting with legislators Evan was told his drug bill wouldn't get out of committee and he screamed at them he yelled he would get the speaker of the house quote because he doesn't have any balls some in the government started consulting with psychologists to figure out how to deal with Evan oh my god and
Starting point is 01:10:03 not just him it was everyone around him the people in this office yeah everyone right it spreads one legislator quote white trash had come to the capital okay so that's interesting we're gonna have a lot of today because it's not it's not white trash it's it's people outside from outside the city but it's not that they're white quote-unquote white trash whatever it's that they have trash morals no they have well they don't have morals they don't have their ideology is essentially fascist they just want what they want they don't care what happens to anybody so it's not it's it's a but that's just a catch-all term that
Starting point is 01:10:42 people use right an offensive catch-all term but it's like you're not you're not pointing out what the real problem is which is this is a fascist crazy you know and it happens all the time now or it's like you can't let someone's I mean just corrupt is corrupt you just have to judge yeah that is that's that's the race of our government I mean there's plenty of people who come from rural areas and yeah and then you know rates and yeah so Evans people didn't have the normal social graces interesting they wore polyester they were not smart explaining pointed out by the dressing explaining basic stuff to them was
Starting point is 01:11:22 insanely frustrating they did not use correct English sure they were demeaning to anyone not in their group right politeness did not exist common courtesy was non-existent they all had complete loyalty to the governor and acted like a smug clan sounds like he's God so their assholes in power basically yeah right and they and they hate they've always hated right they visit the elites against the non-elites they've always hated them right inside the ninth floor people realized he valued loyalty over competence and the office was divided by religion Mormons thought they were more loyal to the to Evan than others one of
Starting point is 01:12:02 his special assistance a woman was called the black widow because she made enemy lists and used her power to settle scores in the office there were a lot of fights there were a lot of fights because the workers were both incompetent and volatile that's a great combo but Evan didn't return the loyalty he received for one legislator who stood by him it was a one-way street when he called Evan to ask for something the governor would blow it off and call the legislator legislator quote a nobody so there we go what do you get for it so does hates the people who don't do their bidding disrespects as like a dog the
Starting point is 01:12:48 people who do yeah right that's that's the yeah there's no winning yeah Evan was always traveling in state he often gave three speeches a day wow sound like anime no haven't haven't put my finger quite on it his wife packed his lunches he obviously treated Democrats than worse than Republicans when a dam a legislator suggested the governor ease up on a tax Evan said quote I just did that to let you know I can urinate on you anytime I want and which is the new bill that we're submitting for approval we'd like a vote on it the governor's allowed to piss in the mouth of anyone talking bullshit I want to be peed on
Starting point is 01:13:31 sir look the governor is now officially allowed to piss in your mouth if you're talking dumb shit so if we all as a group decide that you is talking some stupid bullshit we are going to what is called birdbath your mouth so that's where we're going to make you open your mouth yeah we will fill it with urine and then we'll put a what the smallest one of us will start bathing in your urine bath mouth that's my thing that's our thing I love the people of Arizona sent us here to make changes and among those changes will be the allowance for urinating in the skulls of dipshits I like it thank you Evan said
Starting point is 01:14:16 now you pay gas prices and it said nada to get his message out because the papers weren't getting his message out obviously he was gonna write two columns a week what's the message no fuck you I guess yeah so it won't filter through reporters and they'll just get it in the papers right but the Green Valley news reported of six columns only two arrived on time and the other four they had to call the ninth floor and we're just blown off by staffers like staffers would just be like yeah yeah it's not there and just hang up on them okay so the good yeah it's not working right now because the state is getting pummeled over the
Starting point is 01:14:53 boycotts about MLK day sure on June 18th the governor announced the creation of a sort of MLK day he declared the third Sunday in January to be a Martin Luther King junior civil rights day but not a state holiday yeah you get Sunday off a critic said quote mr. Meacham has just created the state's first non-holiday yeah I mean honestly like it's like having a national red day yeah well yeah it's totally Sunday in July Evan went to the Western Governors Association in Utah so all the governors gather okay other governors completely avoided him sure he was interviewed at a Salt Lake City TV station and asked about the NBA
Starting point is 01:15:41 canceling their Arizona convention oh good god Evan quote well the NBA I guess they forgot how many white people they get coming to watch them play this obviously made national news it's amazing because it's like he just it's basically what happened before too where you're just like I don't know if I can process what he's saying and you know what I mean you're just like so you're kind of punch-drunk with how many things he says that are just fucking nuts the next day Sports Illustrated began running an Evan Meacham scorecard to keep track of his nonsense okay Sports Illustrated yeah the recall campaign was
Starting point is 01:16:22 rolling along they had to wait six months that's gonna be a lifetime yeah I know to get an elected official recalled but they started the campaign on the first day right the guy who started was named Ed Buck it gained momentum each day Buck was gay and the governor's staff decided to make the recall about his gayness sure so one of Evan's staff held a press conference to go after Buck's gay lifestyle what is the I can't I don't even want to know what now Buck didn't have a clean record he'd been busted for forging prescriptions and touching a dude's junk in a store but Buck made the recall about Evan and the
Starting point is 01:17:04 governor made it about Buck being gay and a bad person a guy a guy who is not in government and anyway not asking for votes yeah they're like well that's the story that yeah so in May Buck created a recall campaign he went on talk shows as did a teenager named Kip Shippy hello it's hi Kip Shippy now he's like 16 uh-huh but he had formed the Evan Meacham fan club oh no oh my god no no must have been so popular in a school my god they often went head-to-head on talk shows so they're bringing it's a it's a gay dude and a 16-year-old Evan Meacham fan who are constantly debating the recall you know it really sounds like a model for
Starting point is 01:17:55 media but also it's like again what is the the facts are what the story is it shouldn't you know that's what is always you you elevate one side arguing like that's the point of the news networks now is to bring on one person who thinks something close to rational and then one person who thinks something bonkers right you get two minutes and you get two minutes yeah so Shippy attacked Buck about being gay in a very ugly fashion whatever words I mean ideally an audience would be like okay so what does that have to do with them but no but instead people are like well you're talking about what really really
Starting point is 01:18:40 religious people yeah right so it is it's invalidating a medium it isn't validating he was encouraged by Evan staff so shippy staff is pushing pushing him to you know hey yip shippy the governor would like to meet with you about your homophobic rants it's kip shippy kip shippy sorry wow sorry shippy went to the ninth floor as a volunteer my name is yip shippy and I don't do things like that so he's going to the ninth floor he is yeah shippy he was pushed as Evan's biggest supporter which led to him being all over TV in the radio sure and again this is a 16-year-old named kip shippy right the
Starting point is 01:19:16 person who they're like hey this is our Joe the plumber yeah that's right kip shippy bucks group kept gathering recall signatures Evan staff sent out bumper stickers reading queer ed bucks recall Jesus Christ then a Gazette reporter went to shippies house to interview him and there he drops a bomb he asked shippy about his conviction for child molestation when he was 14 um shippy immediately said ed bucks sexuality was no longer an issue and begged the reporter not to tell the public wow that's quite a quote on the contrary ed had known for months and never brought it up
Starting point is 01:20:30 wow he just told shippy it would eventually come out wow Evan immediately did everything he could to distance himself from his biggest fan yeah but you've already docked the kip shippy the press secretary said quote we never really opened our arms to him we had to be honest and we didn't like the kind of kip shippies jib to be totally frank with you the whole time we you know the truth is that it would think about it it would be highly irregular for us to hire a 16-year-old named kip shippy if you think about it what about me to be strange it doesn't seem strange at all well it's not something we would do we'd
Starting point is 01:21:07 find it pretty awkward to be honest we want the facts and the policies to do the debating for us we're not gonna put the wind in the sail of some I don't know kip ship or something like that by the way we actually did find a nine-year-old who is a huge Evan fan and he dresses like a fireman so we're gonna call him fireman Carl okay but he's gonna kind of go out there now and sort of talk about what we want and what we're after what about an adult though we're not finding a lot of adults who are vibing with the message anymore so we've decided we're gonna step it up we have this nine-year-old here and then we have a dog
Starting point is 01:21:45 who is able to bark when we snap our fingers and he's also gonna do a lot of the debating for us to he wears a cape so so we got the kid just like a fireman and the dog with the cape and they're kind of gonna be out there pushing the rhetoric for us so if you guys have any by the way again kip shippy new thank you but fireman Carl and the dog with the cape will now be out there talking on our behalf thank you so much and we're rehiring kip shippy all the artists we rehired kip we love him the staff said shippy always contacted the governor not the other way around well but that's as far as the child
Starting point is 01:22:30 molestation the meacham party chairman said quote he's corrected himself he's not doing it anymore he's stopped molesting kids months ago I don't see how you can compare this to someone who's a homosexual and continues to be a homosexual yes how do you you're I mean that is so like it's just you are the leader of backward town I mean when you're like look look we're not gonna look a man molests a child in the privacy of his own home but two grown men come on so they also said he'd never been on staff so they never checked his background again they're not vetting anybody yeah there's nobody you hired a
Starting point is 01:23:11 murderer they fucking you hired a kid with the fucking child molestation yes and you hired murder also what the fuck are kip's parents doing the courses are gonna come out what are you doing Dave we're all wondering where the shippies are on this where is Ken and Kath shippy so Evan finally came out and said quote it wasn't embarrassing to me it did not have an effect on me and my administration I've never been a child molester I got a clean life why should it affect me I like it was higher child molester elevate them I'm not them but shippy still loves Evan of course and he kept the Evan Meacham fan club going at
Starting point is 01:23:51 this point is he like don't help tries to speak for him in public and and he's probably pleased enough Evan is my best friend there's not anything we disagree on so at the end of June some Republican legislators formed a group and went public announcing they were against Evan Meacham okay they became known as the dirty dozen they read a statement listing his failures and said Republicans were becoming known for having quote a lock on the bigot vote the anti intellectual vote and the homophobic it's called the Southern strategy prick but Republicans were split some still backed Evan GOP leaders Matt I mean just
Starting point is 01:24:34 literally because it's like he's a Christian he's in power he's a religious money they will always get behind the person of power right that's how they do it GP letters met at the party chairman's house they knew going down this path would destroy the party they should call it the GOD go ahead the chairman still thought he could make it work between the two camps so he approached the dirty dozen leader but it didn't go as expected he told the chairman they were discussing impeaching the governor not trying to figure out how to get along well that's we're not gonna get along if that's what you're
Starting point is 01:25:11 pushing that's gonna make relations pretty difficult that's the end episode of one Jesus Christ I don't know if I have a enough where do we go are we going oh it's crazy I just it gets so crazy I just the sources for this episode the book high crimes and misdemeanors by Ronald J Watkins spin magazine May 1988 Bart bull the article antihero the parallels are fucking incredible they're already nuts but the reason the parallels are incredible not it's not because Trump exists and Evan Meacham exists it's because there's a giant segment of the population that wants this and they crave it and when
Starting point is 01:26:00 that person comes along it flips a switch and then it turns them on and it's also it's also like if you're if you're able to let the Bible justify anything then nothing is off limits I mean the second that you're like you know the second that they carved out the flawed leader loophole yeah you know the flawed messenger a flawed messenger will come and he will then it's like okay so you guys are just it's like any fucking asshole yeah okay as long as he says the right thing and holds the Bible up you know upside down in front of whatever square it was that's right yeah that's all that fucking matters yeah it's I
Starting point is 01:26:42 should just only start associating and voting for Packer fans I mean he seems great but unfortunately he doesn't like this the team that I like the Green Bay Packers making an appearance in the next episode you knew I was gonna leave after this one all right well oh Jesus you don't believe in God look what God just did to his mic Aaron the Lord is real and he death chosen dive as an asshole

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