The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 506 - The de Young's - Live

Episode Date: November 9, 2021

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine newspaper barons the de Young's. Recorded live in San Francisco.ONLINE SHOW DECEMBER 16SourcesTour DatesRedbubble Merch...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Oh look at this. No. No, no, no. Nope. Come on. We've had a break. Haven't we had some time to reflect on how that doesn't make any sense? It's a Welsh name and you're taking the attention off of where it needs to be. Two rainbow people. Stand up. Show yourselves off. Look at that. Wow. Look at those shirts. Wow. Never having sex. Yeah. You're listening to the dollop. This is a bilingual American History podcast for each week. I, Dave Anthony, read a story from American History to a cat guy. Thank you. Name Garrett Reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about. No, sir. January 8,
Starting point is 00:01:00 1846. Year of our Lord Jesus Christ. And this, you have pictures for this one. Oh, I thought that was... Well, there goes the surprise. Oh, sorry. Let's take it from the top. Charles de Young. Oh, no. This guy? Oh, if you don't know. You're from Milwaukee. You don't know. He's a guy here. He's a guy. Yeah. He's a guy. Yeah. He's from the Tenderloin. He was born in Nacodish, Louisiana. Okay. His parents were Cornelia and Michael de Young, and he had two brothers, Michael and Gustavus. Okay. Little is known about their childhood. Sure. Probably a bunch of siblings died. A lot of people died. Yeah. People got shot. Now you're eight. Someone poisoned a five-year-old. Time to go to work. Right. Yep. And then at some
Starting point is 00:02:03 point, the boys in Cornelia moved to San Francisco during the Civil War. No doubt. Okay. So that's years later, but they... So they were bopping around for a while. We don't know what they were doing. We'll get some hints of what they were doing later. Okay. Great. Sure. So the boys at this point, they're teenagers. They're... It's going so fast. It's flying. I feel like their childhood's just... Sometimes we don't know. I feel like a parent right now. Where did the years go? They're Jewish. They joined the Temple of Manuel. Oh. Woo, Jewish. Woo-wish. Wait till 2024. You won't be doing that. The boys also... Is that in this episode? Is that a weird thing? Is that what happened? The boys also told people they were of French aristocracy. So they're like... Are they?
Starting point is 00:02:53 No. They're just telling people they're like, no, we're fancy Frenchies. Right. Yeah, we're from France. Yeah. That's it. Yeah, we're French. We like baguettes. Yeah. Now give us money, you dumbass. Yes. Yeah. That's exactly what they were doing. All three boys began working in the printing office of the synagogue's newspaper that was called the Weekly Gleaner. The Weekly Gleaner? Yeah. These paper names back in the day. It's a weird time. I mean, look, you didn't have a web page. Sure. So you put out a weekly paper at your synagogue. The Weekly Gleaner. Sounds like a glass magazine. I really tried to find it, but I couldn't. There's a Weekly Gleaner in North Carolina, but that was all I could find. Sure. Okay. All right. Okay, so the boys start working at the Weekly Gleaner. That's
Starting point is 00:03:44 right. The synagogue newspaper. Yes. After years, Charles decided to strike out on his own, and he borrowed $25 to start a newspaper. How fucking great is it that there was a time when you were like, I'm going to go off on my own and start a life? Can I have $25 to just go carve out my own niche? $10? I want to get married and buy a house. Now, at the time, there are tons of newspapers in San Francisco. There's 12 dailies, 17 weeklies, four by monthlies, four monthlies, 13 foreign language papers, and then there's a bunch of political and religious journals. Jesus Christ. So it's just fucking newspaper city. Yeah. Okay. So the de Young's brothers together are like, this town needs another newspaper. We need it. We know what this town needs is a newspaper.
Starting point is 00:04:38 So Charles is 19 years old. And a rents printing equipment, they're going to publish their newspaper is a free theater guide called the Daily Dramatic Chronicle. I don't feel good about the paper. I feel like it's not. Oh God. That's the first one dramatic chronicle. Grotto, grotto nymph. By the way, grotto nymph. Every paper now is a dramatic chronicle. World's Olympic. Sophie Irene and little Jenny. I mean, it's, look at Charles said, why don't you go see the grotto nymph if you're in town? Whoa, you're going to love the grotto nymph. Charles said it was about the quote actions, intentions, sayings, doings, movements, successes, failures, oddities. I feel like he doesn't know what he's doing. Oddities? He's just
Starting point is 00:05:42 like, it's about, yeah, what is it about? What isn't it about, Jack? Peculiarities. Peculiarities. And speculations of us poor mortals. Us poor mortals. It's a bit of a, it's a hard paper to fathom. It's the weekly fathom. Sit down and have a process. Boy, what won't this paper do? News. That's the one thing where that alludes us actually is news. You're talking about a newspaper that you can put down for your cat to go on. If you want a newspaper, you can use the paint and you can use the newspaper, everything, but just don't try to get any information for that. That's the weekly cleaner. If you want info, San Francisco was full of high living and low morals at this point. Sure. All right. Hell yeah. Still
Starting point is 00:06:31 it is, brother. That's right. Gold and silver mines are pumping in money. People flooding in. Oscar Wilde said, quote, it is an odd thing, but everyone who disappears is said to be in San Francisco. I don't think he was okay. He shouldn't have said that. Think of how many people are like, that's where she is, Don. Let's go find her. Oscar Wilde knows what he's talking about. We wasted our lives. She's not here, Judy. That Oscar Wilde wouldn't mislead us. You foolish woman. Our lives are gone. Three lives gone. I feel like he just said that is like a way to say that like when his friends go away, like I didn't think you should have taken it as seriously. Also, it's Oscar Wilde. Like maybe he doesn't know about,
Starting point is 00:07:17 he's not like a crime guy. The man is friends with Joe Rogan. Shut the fuck up. So people come from, you know, every country. There were opium dens, opera houses, CD warbs, streets of mud, fleas. There's tons of fleas. Lots of fleas. Yeah. San Francisco's a fleas. Like bassists? Just fleas. Yes. Just all these bleep. Put some pads on. Socks meant for your foot. The word hoodlum was created in San Francisco to describe men hanging on corners. To describe what? Men hanging around on corners. Oh my God. Fuck him. Always the shadiest. Especially the Chinese. It was really directed at Chinese guys hanging out on a corner. Oh, cool. Awesome. Love when I get into a bit of fun and then you bring race into it. Well, I've heard of
Starting point is 00:08:09 America. I have heard of America. Yeah. Best country in the, well. Okay. Woke guy. You don't know what it's like to be in the crosshairs of the woke. I've been living in walking. I've been living in walking stand my whole life. I'm not going to fall into your woke trap. I'm just going for a walk through the me forest and you're setting up little woke traps. Nope, nope, nope. Not going to take the bait, Jack. I could say whatever I want. I'm me. I live in space with a cat. I know. Space cat. I'd like to think I was on the title too. No, it's just space cat. The show's called space cat. Nobody cares about the fucking sidekick. What's fucking? What? Did you just fucking call? Buddy, you weren't in the dream,
Starting point is 00:08:59 dickhead. Trust me, the show is about. Believe me. The spotlight was over here. There's a fucking cat in space. That's all anybody cares about. You do not need to tell me that there's a saucer whiskey drinking cat in space. That's the whole show. You don't fuck it. What are you doing right now? We may not need you. I. You are not cutting me from my own goddamn dream, Hollywood. What? Show us the cat. Show us the cat. Show us the cat. I'm a hen. I'm a hen. And then I get killed. Scarred at this. So Sam just goes right for the kind of paper that Charles wants to put out. Really? Miners love opera. This is something I did not know. Miners loved opera. Miners loved opera? Yes. Turn your lamps off. There were tons of opera
Starting point is 00:10:09 houses in San Francisco. Tons of theaters. They also love menstrual shows and circuses. They love Shakespeare. So there's stages all over. There's stages in gambling halls or stages in saloons. There's just always shows going on. Wait, so like gambling and saloons count as shows? Well, no, they would have a stage in the gambling place. Anything that has, okay. They have stages everywhere. There's always a show going on. Okay, sure. And so that's why they're distributing the daily dramatic Chronicle because they put it in all these places. Right. So people now, if any show they want to go to, they have their paper. Yes, for them. Right. So Charles works five days straight. He gets
Starting point is 00:10:45 just 13 hours sleep to get the first edition out. But isn't the art shows changing daily? Yeah, but he's just getting the first one out. Okay. I don't think it's a daily paper yet, but it's going to become a daily paper. Okay. Well, that's something to look forward to, isn't it? He wrote, he found advertisers, he ran the press, and he borrowed money to buy coffee to stay awake. Can I have one penny? So the papers are hit right away. Okay. It becomes one of the most read and most feared papers. People are scared that he's going to attack them. Wait, what? People are scared like so he basically now, so it's almost like how Amazon ranks companies. If the show is great, he can put
Starting point is 00:11:29 it up front. But if he wants to bury, no, no, it's not known. He's doing actual news. Oh, he is. Yeah. He's in the back pages. He does news. The first page. So he gets you in by being like, Hey, want to see a show? And then he's like, you know, there's a bunch of communists around here. That's right. And so he's like, he'll go after people, right? People are scared. Okay, do that. Sure. He's making 2000 a month from ads. So they're making fucking money. That's a lot of money back then. And there's not a scandal. He doesn't cover cover every rumor. He prints in the paper. Sure. That's not dangerous. The daily dramatic chronicle just rolls off the tongue. Yeah, it really does. Yeah, they loved going
Starting point is 00:12:06 after other papers. Oh, so that I enjoyed. I like that. Yeah, it's like a website. It's fine. Extra, extra. The Daily Cleaner sucks. It's no different than YouTube. Right. Yeah. It's all YouTube. Look at what fucking Frank said. Yeah. So he printed an article about a rival publisher having an affair with his copywriter. And the publisher was married in a church deacon. So people just went crazy for it. It leads to an adultery trial and a divorce and his readership goes through the roof. I now understand the charm of this publication. Far more than before. Do you like it's a hit? I'm like, people are like, look, there's a show. Yeah, it's amazing. Okay. So the young brothers still live with
Starting point is 00:12:49 their mom. They're how old now? Well, they're in their 20s. And this is a while ago. So your 20s are your 30s. They make it 2000 a month. They could probably move out. But right. But yeah, but Michael his brother. So Michael's the co-owner and assistant publisher. Gustavus handled the business side of stuff. And Charles is the boss, like the heart of the paper. Okay. Charles is small. BDIs. He's got a lot of energy. He would walk the city just keeping tabs on everything. Saloon City Hall. He's just out there all the time. Right. Looking for something to write in this paper. Right. So if he comes by, you like shut the fuck up. Yeah. Yeah. The more reports the more powerful he gets. Sure. Rival papers start
Starting point is 00:13:33 saying he's making up stories. Right. He's just making shit up. Yeah. Well, listen, it's a dramatic paper. What do you think it's gonna be? Of course I'm overreacting. Businessmen are saying he blacks mail a blackmail's advertisers to get them to buy ads. Sure. That's what we do. Yep. Yep. Wealthy ladies believed he took bribes to bury stories. Okay. Right. And then like I said, they covered standing standard. So it's kind of inquiry. Yeah, a inquiry. And they would cover regular news, but he would rewrite it in sensational. Right. He'd be like, maybe he has a chimp too. Let's have fun. He's in a cave curing cancer with a chimp and divorced. The paper's biggest break was Lincoln's assassination. Oh, finally,
Starting point is 00:14:25 someone shot that fucker. Let's go. This is our time to strike. So the reason it was dumb-hatted leader go boom. You know, I hear Mary Todd was having sex with John Wilkes. Type it. Type it. Give me another hit. This is good shit. You hear Lincoln's brain sprouted feet and jogged off. Now it's in the Olympics as a Greek. You sure, boss? Absolutely. Hey, go down to the store. Give me another pot of coffee. I got some bullshit to churn. I thought we were on cocaine. Yeah, we sure are. But it's medicinal cocaine. Yes. The kind a doctor would prescribe. That's right. Quarterback doctor. I've got our back page. Hey, we didn't write any shows in this week's paper. Fuck the show. So a man from the paper was at just
Starting point is 00:15:29 time to be at the telegraph office when the news came in of Lincoln being killed. Okay. And so the young's got the drop on all the other papers. Okay. Okay. So what a time when you were like walking the street like doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, doo, knowing that the president has been shot in the back. No one else knows. Yeah. And you're just walking around. You know, no one else can find out. Right. You know, and no one else. Right. Yeah. It's crazy. It's great. So this is from that edition, the evening edition. So it's actually on the same day that Lincoln was shot, which is pretty crazy for that time period that. And so this is on page three. Oh my God. So Lincoln's how do you not just swap the pages
Starting point is 00:16:12 latest? How hard is it to just change the folding? It can't be that hard. I just can't imagine. Extra, extra. Love seats everywhere. Also, president shot dead. I just can't imagine picking the duck wears waistcoat looks like waiter. Also, president fucking murdered at a play by a fucking actor. Can I? Yes. Is there a review for grotto nymph in there? Yeah. That's page two. That's a lot of that. The grotto nymph is a lot of page two. Great. I'll take one. And then if you flip it over, you'll find out that the first lady's been widowed this afternoon. But you got to get there. Is there an opera listing? Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot of, yeah, for sure. There's opera, but the president has been fully killed.
Starting point is 00:17:02 I think if that mattered, it would be on page one. That's had, yeah, fair, fair pushback. You know, the thing about this duck who looks like a waiter is when he comes over, you put the bill on the bill and that's what to us is so kitsch. So the next day, also a change in national leadership. It must have been so crazy because they always put all the theater stuff on the first two pages and they even relates to fucking theater like there's no more. He was at a goddamn play. Big night at show. Like literally. Yeah. Killed by a fucking actor at a theater. No, no, no. Page three. It'll be everyone will be lost. Well, starting about Ford's theater in the show and then at the end, say also the president
Starting point is 00:18:02 was killed. Yeah. Amazing show at Ford Theater. Wow. What a group of actors. The president was murdered at it. So the next day, the paper because they because they were ahead of everybody, they had they added graphic and exciting details. They had like big drawings like they got out of the brain. Horrible graphic details. Boy, was that hat full of blood. Well, I mean, no one had pictures. Like a thing of sangria. It's his words. It's not. Yeah, but I'm a vehicle for his thoughts. But back then there were no pictures. So everyone just drew it like all the papers. If you go and look up drawings of pink Lincoln such nation, it's just crazy. It's really insane. Oh my God. Just like you. Wilkes Booth has like a cannon
Starting point is 00:18:58 behind him. Here we go. Mush it. Mush it real good. So circulation shot up to 10,000. Oh, yeah. I thought you were talking about Lincoln. Sorry. I was like, he doesn't have that anymore. Okay. So people are in. Yeah, like they know when the president dies more than any other paper in this town. And then they changed the name to the Daily Morning Chronicle. That's the three years in now. The Daily Morning Chronicle. Charles announced their editorial policy with the name change quote, we shall support no party, no click, no faction, neither the Republican Party nor the Democratic Party nor the Pacific Railroad nor the Bank of California are great enough to frighten us or rich enough to buy us. There we go. Yeah, independent
Starting point is 00:19:46 journalists. Yes, thank you. Finally. And then that's okay. No one listens to you. Huh? You die a lonely death. Excuse me. No one read anything you did. Pardon independent journalists. Nobody cares. Go away. Fuck off. We did great work. No, you do shit work and everyone thinks your conspiracy cuckoos and tell it turns out to be true 20 years later, Lincoln still alive. He's killing vampires. You're listening. You're listening to Joe Rogan. My guest today is Abraham Lincoln. Well, thank you, Joe. Big, big fan. Long time first time. So Charles, I can't get the headphones on with this hat. Unfortunately, it is a bit of a cumbersome decision. I'll put it down here. They'll just match my chin bed. So Charles does not even
Starting point is 00:20:46 have a great school education and he's doing this, right? Sure. He worked nonstop. He makes his employees work nonstop. Cool. He's brutal to his workers. Awesome. If you didn't think they were doing enough, he didn't think they were doing enough ever. Wow. Can you imagine a time like that? They're always quitting or breaking down. You know, I just hearing like the Republicans, like we won't, we don't favor Republicans or Democrats and there's just like, you know, terrible work abuse at just feel at home. Yeah. One of those people was Gustavus who started suffering from mental health issues. Okay. Charles, he was taken off working at the paper briefly put in asylum and Charles quickly took his name off the
Starting point is 00:21:36 top of the paper. Just gone. Sure. Yeah, that's sure. I brought him great comfort. Yes. Good brother. The chronic was considered now one of the top papers in the country. Okay. The Clay Center dispatch wrote quote, in the outside of this miniature venture in journalism may have been contemptuously ignored as the bantling of those two young Jews. But the dramatic Chronicle was too lively a sheet to be ignored. Besides, it was bright, witty, fresh and well written. That's all through the prison. I'm like, that's right. Two Jews did it. Unbelievable. They made a juice paper. It's called the juper. Unbelievable. And keep in mind, I'm talking about two Jews. A story so wacky they should put it on their third page.
Starting point is 00:22:28 The Chronicle, oh, sorry, in 1871, the often, so they were always covering this guy, Judge Delos Lake. So they're covering him a lot. And then they do one story. He's just is there just going after him all the time. Okay. And they do one story and they make some ugly comments about his wife. I couldn't find out what they were, but the judge is really mad. Okay. And on December 2nd, Charles is walking on Montgomery with a money broker. And this is from the SF bulletin quote, Judge Lake sprang upon them, precipitating the whole force of his body upon him. So he kind of just like walrused into it fucking jumped on him. He's just walking on the street with a money broker and then he just basically he's like plop. Yeah, got
Starting point is 00:23:12 it like tackle. Now what? You'll move. The judge hit Charles several times quote with no effect. I am now fully picturing like a walrus. It's like a pillow. The judge then lifted his cane to hit Charles. Okay, that'll help. And Charles backed off and managed to dodge it. And then they stood there looking at each other. Boy, this guy had a real opportunity. I mean, talk up, take a page out of the Wilkes Booth book. Honestly, I mean, if you're going to sneak attack, yeah, oh, yeah, you don't just walrus into somebody and then yeah, and then sort of on guard with a cane, they're dodging it. And then you're like, All right, now let's talk. Now you come in, you lead cane from behind.
Starting point is 00:24:01 Absolutely. So your idea of fighting is to hit a guy in the back with a cane. I mean, let if you have a gun, you go with that for sure. Interesting. The judge then pulled out a Derringer. There it is. So was he working in opposite time? He was like, I want to give him a fighting chance. Instead of running, I have a nuclear bomb. He's like got wily coyote pants. Instead of running away, or backing off Charles rushed out, I mean, grabbed his arm so he couldn't shoot at him. And then they fell to the ground struggling. Now Lake is trying to point the gun at his head and Charles is trying to pull it away. It's like a movie now. Yes, right. And then and then Lake gives up trying to shoot him and just
Starting point is 00:24:48 starts hitting Charles over the head with the gun. Oh, okay. So he came the gun. Interesting. Interesting move. Okay. The bulletin quote. No one in the meantime interfered as lookers on were chiefly anxious to get out of the way of flying bullets. Sure. Yeah, they don't want to get shot. Right. Fair enough. Yeah. The gun fired and grazed Charles scalp blood flowed from his head. Lake then went back to pounding him on the head with the pistol. Wow. Really? Okay. Okay. Okay. The ball at no point was anyone like maybe we should do something. Careful. Let it play out. Hold on. I think he is dynamite. Now he's pulling a button. He's got a clock in his pants. It's a lot of kerchiefs. Kerchiefs. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I got it. So the gun, the ball that was shot goes into the thigh of a guy who was just standing there, Ed Wheeler. Well, see, that's why you get it mixed. Go mix it up a little bit. Yeah, yeah. You're just gonna take it. He took a ball to the thigh. Finally, some bisoners at that point jumped in and pull Lake off and he was arrested for now. Defending his woman's honor. So a large crowd now walks back with Charles to his office. Hey, what are you doing, Charles? What are you doing now, Charles? What's up, Charles? How's your head? Your head's really bloody, Charles. And they're denouncing Lake really loudly. Fuck Lake. Charles, better. We are so bored. There's so little to do right now. There's
Starting point is 00:26:29 nothing to do. There's nothing. This is everything. This is the Super Bowl and a wedding. Now, Lake talking to the cops said he only meant to cane Charles, but then he saw Charles reaching to his pocket and thought he was gonna shoot him. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. But Charles was unarmed. Right. But he still was reaching in his pocket during a fight. I'm sure that happened. And then. Cigarette. And then Lake also said on top of that the gun went off accidentally. So he pulled it out and it then shot accidentally. Sure. That happens. Absolutely. I mean, look, the police, it happens to the police a ton. It does. Such butterfingers we hire. So I don't know what it is. So Lake immediately gets bailed out
Starting point is 00:27:24 and then just goes back to work the next day as a judge. As a judge? I feel like this is not, it's just not good context for the, like he's like, yeah, you didn't mean it though, right? You probably just pulled it out because you thought she was gonna pull one out. Okay, yeah. Not guilty. No. So a couple of months later, he ended up getting a $300 fine. Okay, which is $18 million in our money. Murder a guy and shooting a guy in the thigh. Just whatever. Now Charles had a temper. He would slander anyone, but then he'd fly into a rage if someone slandered him and he would want revenge. Man, those people are wild. He carries a gun, but he's, it's very well known that he's a terrible shot. That's not a good public
Starting point is 00:28:12 like that. They knew because he tried to shoot it a bunch of people had missed. Man, it's like, imagine if your neighborhood was just like laser tag, but with pistols. I was like, how you lived every day? You're like, Oh, he's a terrible shot. He tried to shoot him, but didn't. Anyway, should we go have a beer? Who do you say? Call it a day? That too. There's a man murdered. What do you want to do? Go play horseshoes? It's really crazy. Fun, isn't it? So there's a guy named Ben Naptholy, and he works for the Chronicle for years, and then he strikes on his own. Okay. Starts his own paper with another guy named Fitzgerald. It's
Starting point is 00:28:54 called the sun. Simple. Simple. The sun. Simple. He had learned how to write scandal under Charles. Learn how to write scandal. And he put those skills to work on the guy he knew most about. Oh, no. So he started. Yes. Charles paper in the style of Charles. Yes. Wow. Okay. This is when you create your nightmare, right? Yeah, you create your monster. It's what you did basically with me. He's the big. Yes. Correct, Gary. He is the. No. He is. I love it. I love it. Sir. He is. But if you take him down now, now you've made a name and your paper takes off. Sure. And what's he going to do? Shoot near you? That's right. He's not going to hit you. Worst case. Worst case. He shoots around you at the wall.
Starting point is 00:29:51 He hit the president. The president's in town. Oh, God. So Naptholy wrote detailed stories about Charles and Charles would respond. At one point, Charles accused the son of blackmailing people. And he called Naptholy, quote, a thief, a liar, a bigamist and a scoundrel. And Fitzgerald, a customer of gambling houses and prostitutes, quote, and one of the most degraded specimens of hoodlum minism hoodlumism. Sure. Yeah, it was a movement hoodlumism. Yeah, it's a religion. So the next day, word came that the son had printed a response. It attacked the brothers to young and the chronicle, quote, included in its villainous sweep all the family members of their family, not even sparing the gray hairs of the venerable mother, an old lady
Starting point is 00:30:47 who has whatever be the faults of her sons is respected by all who know her and how has already seen her great grandchildren. Wait, what just happened? So this is part of the writing that everyone loves. Okay, so they're like, and we're going to go after your mom too. They did. They went after his mom. Right. And what they just said, like, because to me I was like, okay. But back then people were like, oh, shit. Did you hear what they just wrote? Well, they it's fucking on. And that's when the yo mama weekly open extra extra when your mom sits around the house, she sits around the house. Page six. Yeah, so they went after the mother. Okay. Now there were 200 copies printed. Whoa. And the de Young's
Starting point is 00:31:39 fan out across the city to buy as many copies as they could. But then when they bought them, it just meant it was selling out. So that the more print we want to return the papers, but don't sell them to anyone. We want to archive them. Where's the Smithsonian? And then that also caused the price to go up. So they're creating so they've created right right, right, which is why this paper selling like crazy. What's it right? The kind of the coverups worse than the crime, Dave. So, so Gustavus has nothing to do with the paper, but he's mad because they're talking about his mama. Oh, and he's pissed. So Gustavus goes to the son's office, and he pulls out his gut and he I mean, there's what I'm talking
Starting point is 00:32:23 about. Like just like we're violent. We're a violent people. But yeah, but the let like in your I mean, in your life, it's like every two days, someone's showing up with a gun to kill someone. You don't want to work at newspapers. No, obviously. Yeah, who knew? So he points it at Fitzgerald, but one of the one of the employees there tackles them and they and they end up letting him go. But as he's leaving, don't do this again. Are you fucking kidding? You're a grown ass man coming in to murder us. Get the fuck out of here. Take your gun to where I shouldn't have done that. We are so disappointed in you. Wow. At your age. Imagine if you shot me. As Gustavus is leaving, he says if they print any more, there's going
Starting point is 00:33:12 to be violence. As if that's not what almost just happened. Yeah. Unless you tackle me. If you do this again, I might do some of the threatens your lives. Those are the rules of almost murder. If you tackle me before I shoot, then I don't almost murder. Yeah. But if you capture me, I give you three wishes. It's leprechaun law, but with pistols. So, but they find out they're still going to print more. So Charles reaches out to one of his political buddies who is the chief of police. Jesus. And he says, can you go over there and shut down the paper? It's like all they've been doing is talking shit. Yeah. That's someone's talking shit. They're like, you're not allowed to talk shit. We talk shit. We talk shit.
Starting point is 00:33:58 So the police go and raid the son's offices. Hey, where's the gossip? You got a bunch of gossip around here? What's draw your secrets in Jack? What's your say about that old lady? Open up your head and empty your thoughts out on the table. So they stop the presses. They arrest six employees. And then those guys get bailed out. But when they get bailed out, they find out that the copies are now selling for $2 and 50 cents because everybody wants one. I mean, that is like you are what great advertising. Yeah. Everything you're doing is making people want the paper. Yeah, right. Yes. So they decided to print more on Sunday and Charles hears about that. He sends the cops again. There's another raid.
Starting point is 00:34:42 They rest 13 guys this time. That's right. Now the paper is going to be $10 a copy. And they're right in the next day and the defense attorney is judge Delos Lake. Okay, I feel like there's like eight people in this city. Seriously, it's like a season of a show. It's just like they're like, I'm the judge while I was is judge Lake. What are the odds? We can't do more casting. It's too expensive. Gustavo's going to play both brothers. Fitzsimmons and Natalie got really high bail. I guess they got real high. I was like, yeah, man. I know that feeling. And the reason they got high bail is because they had already gotten bailed out once and then went back to their crime, which was printing the paper. Right,
Starting point is 00:35:31 right. So, so Natalie is like, I want to go, it's just as he went to get bail. So he must have, there must be pay your bail somewhere else or went to get bail money or whatever. So a cop escorts him to go get his bail. Okay. And Gustavo sees him on the corner of Santa Monica, California. Bulls out his pistol. Start shooting. Jesus. Any contact or is this like bad aiming like genetic? He grazes Natalie's head, this head grazing shit. That 22 grazer, the only guy that'll barely cut the victim. Why don't you give him a butt part right down the middle of their hair? Boy, oh boy, you need the grazer. Nothing leaves a nice groove like the grazer. It's impossible to fully penetrate skin. It'll just graze
Starting point is 00:36:15 them. So he shoots twice more as Natalie runs away and then a cop and a bystander tackle him. Now, again, everyone's like, this is amazing. So big crowd is forming. Whoa. And this is page four shit. You imagine in front of us and they take, they take Gustavus to the jail, the police station, says prison. Sure. And Michael and Charles come down to help or see Gustavus who's, who's being charged with the Salta murder. Right. And at the same time that they're all there, Natalie is escorted back in getting his bail. This is obviously before walkie talkies. They're like, Oh God, damn it. Again. And someone is there because there's always people there and someone asked Natalie about the shooting and he starts answering.
Starting point is 00:37:12 And Michael sees him and Michael just walks up calmly. So no one notices and he walks up behind Natalie and pulls a pistol and it's about to shoot him in the back of the head when someone tackles him. No, he didn't get the shot off. But he was, he was just about to shoot it back and someone saw it. And so when I was a kid, I used to watch the GI Joe cartoon and Cobra never died. They always just like jumped out of play. Like that's what this is like nobody except for fucking Lincoln. What? Oh God, you didn't hear the fuck you told me. What page are you on? I only read page one and two every day. Well, you're missing out. Presidents really dead. What? They shot him in that big weird hat. Ask me about grotto
Starting point is 00:38:04 nymph. I'd rather not. She's a nymph. She's in a grotto and it's all right. Taking a turn. So he gets tackled and there's like a little skirmish going on and carefully he's got a grazer. Charles looks up and he sees his brother in this fight and then he realizes Oh, there's Natalie. Yeah, but she's and so he walked quickly forward and very calmly. You got to do it quick. That's what I've learned from my brother and reaches into his pocket and Natalie yells quote for God's sakes. Keep that man away. Yes. And then two cops see him and they grab Charles and they say anybody wants to kill anybody and they say give us the gun and he says he doesn't have a gun. It's a comb and then they reach in his pocket
Starting point is 00:39:01 and they take out a gun. Oh, that gun. Yes, there is a gum. I don't have gum. It might not have even been invented yet. And now people start panicking. All the people that have come to watch because there's two guns out. You could just go into like the cop station. It's like this. These people are the strong of humans. Yes. Like this human cloud of animated extras is just like rum, rum, rum, rum, watermelon, watermelon, watermelon, watermelon, watermelon. Why they say watermelon? As you know, it looks like they're talking. They're just background fucking extras. No, no, don't actually say anything. They said just mouth your words. You've never done background work. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I did. They don't do watermelon,
Starting point is 00:39:43 watermelon. They're extras. They're like, so how are you? So listen, the other day I was in the store and they actually have conversations because they're crazy. I'm in the background of friends and I want to look as realistic as possible because if a producer is watching and he sees me and he goes, who's that guy in the background? The guy looks ordinary. And he goes, I want that guy out in front of the camera. I did these two Taco Bell commercials and this woman goes, how did you get successful? And I was like, ma'am, I do children's birthday parties. I don't know. You're talking to the wrong person. I have a better story. My wife's friend, she meets this guy and he used to be a ball player, minor leagues, never made
Starting point is 00:40:24 it out. And then we go to have dinner with him. We meet him for the first time and I'm like, so what do you do? I'm doing a lot of commercial work. I'm like, I work in commercials too. I go, that's awesome. I'm an extra. And I was like, oh, he goes, that's all I want to do. And I was like, you don't want to be like in the main guy and make all the money. You never know those guys' names. And he goes, no, man, I just want to be in the background. Like I think it's awesome. I love it. And so like a year later, I'm in a commercial. The commercial is me. I'm in the main guy. It's for the product, Dave. Dave. It's like a Toyota commercial and someone throws water on me. It's the commercial zone. There's water
Starting point is 00:41:08 me. And then right as water gets on me, I hear this guy go, Dave. And he's in the background and he's like, look at this man. And I'm like, fuck, we're both doing our thing. And notice he's not wet. Absolutely amazing. Everyone's living their dreams. I had a dream once. With Gareth. What? So the guns out causes a little bit of mayhem. Sure. Men were crouching in corners. Women were screaming and prisoners were tugging at their bars. That's penis, right? Stop talking to those bars, boys. We ain't got a lot of action here, Warden. Outside cops had to do crowd control because all these people want to rush in. So they're like beating people back. And then they arrest Charles and Michael. They arrest them for
Starting point is 00:42:24 assault and libel. It's a dumb thing to commit crimes in the police station. Is it? Because a jury would not convict them. Of course. They couldn't get. That's it. They're free. I mean, 100 people saw it in a police station. This is what they did. This is how it worked. They'd be like, well, what did the guy write? Oh, he wrote something about his mom. That's how it worked. They'd be like, I can't convict him. I would have shot him. It was the old mom of times. What do you expect? That's their skew, baby. So paper goes on. Charles bought, he starts bringing in really good writers. He brings in Mark Twain and Fred Hart before Twain is even known. He brings them in. They're regular contributors. In 1875, the circulation
Starting point is 00:43:14 is up to 25,000. And Charles and Michael are powerful now. Charles started selecting who would run for political office and he'd go hard at their opponents and help them out. Right. No, the call's main rival, sorry, the Chronicles' main rival was the call and the bulletin. The call won the young's arrested for taking money for writing positively about San Francisco's water company. Okay. Boy, it's really clear. This stuff is good. Well, clearly the water company sucked and then they're writing nice about it because they're getting cash. Again, just so unrelatable. Can you imagine? That's not what Bill Gates does at all. I'm a little sick of the Gates bashing, honestly. I spent a day with Dave
Starting point is 00:44:07 and he doesn't understand. He's going to save us all. He went to Epstein's Island to be like, no! You shut this place down, you! I don't get hard. I name my business after my Microsoft penis. Floppy. You said floppy disk? Yep, disk. So they also said they took, they promoted bad mind stocks so they could profit. Sure. They denied it, but they would write amazing descriptions of stocks that weren't good, which wasn't illegal. It's just unethical, but you could do it. And still not illegal. And Charles didn't care about unethical. He was like, yeah, whatever. Right. Right. Unless it was done in his direction, then that would be unethical. It was terrible. That's right. Right. So politics in San Francisco
Starting point is 00:45:23 are pretty messy. There's class anger, there's agitators, there's scapegoating, there's the so-called Chinese problem. Chinese are blamed for ruining the city, taking jobs. And the Chronicle Sports Mayor Andrew Bryant, now the economy tanks and 19% of people are employed. Okay. So that's bad. Right. Thank you. It's if you didn't know. Seems low. And the Chinese hating working man's party rises, which we talked about in the Dennis Kearney episode. Yep. Chinese hating. We're pretty specific with what our angle is here. We're not sugar coating much. Pretty open. No, it's not. They're not called the Chinese hating. They're just called the work humans party. Oh, I just, I put that up front. I was going to say even
Starting point is 00:46:13 in like racist, racist times, it's like Jesus Christ. We're Chinese hating. How are you? Chinese hating. How are you? We got jackets made. You just iron them on the denim. So what is your party stand for? What's your one noted? We have one real big issue. Jobs. Well, jobs if they're taken from us. We just I don't want to even say it again because it feels like it's been said too many times already. Well, the name of your party is that's what it's that. It's the H C Chinese hating. Mm hmm. Yep. You don't want to say it. Well, listen, I also we're a dyslexic group as well. We got a lot of stuff, honestly. Sometimes I feel like when I say Chinese, I mean my mother. What? You need so much therapy. I
Starting point is 00:47:16 don't know. Those first couple years, they're supposed to hold you. That's when you're forming. It doesn't matter. You're out of the womb, but you still need the womb. Don't go anywhere, you fuck. Don't touch me. I am. You put me in a blanket and swat on me. I'm not your fucking therapist. I'm just a guy. I need to be inchwormed by a man. Chinese or not, I just need to feel a heartbeat here. Dad was gone a lot. Is this recline? So another guy who was also a big Chinese hating guy as a new minister in town named I talked to God. He's really against him. New Missing Town named Isaac Callak. Wow. Can I just say that hair is bright red. So this is a giant leprechaun. That is. That is a legal leprechaun.
Starting point is 00:48:22 There's a giant. He looks like a leprechaun. He's he's six, three, 240 pounds. That's right. I'm a motherfucking giant leprechaun. I'm a dyslecticon. He is a great speaker. He's very magnetic. So who his thing is so tall. Besides being a giant leprechaun and hating Chinese when 15 leprechauns run into each other. They for me. He is a big ladies man. Of course. Where's that gold? Wherever he had lived, there were issues around women. He was expelled from college for quote sexual proclivity. You mentioned getting thrown out of college for fucking. Yeah. Yeah, I can. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Almost graduated. It took a real dookie turn all of a sudden. Yeah. Well, it wasn't women. I think get back to reading for you.
Starting point is 00:49:55 The cafeteria. I have a food. Put your eyes down on the iPad again. I have a food issue. Toys and Berry crumbles to be specific. I fuck potatoes. That's how they made Julian. So Isaac had to leave his ministry in Boston because of adultery that led to a sensational trial in Boston papers called him quote this snorting sorrel stallion of car bottom. I'm sorry. We got to break it down like game film. So do the Rewindy part. Okay. One more time. The snorting sorrel. The snorting sorrel. Okay. Stallion. The snorting. Okay. So so far I'm picturing a fuck machine who sounds like a pig. Yeah. And then the last part of car bottom of car bottom. Maybe that was a place car bottom on a body. I don't think
Starting point is 00:51:07 it was a it could have been a bottom a lady's bottom car bottom. It just maybe when you put it in the bottom like you put it in the bottom and they caught car when you that's right. It's really horrible. Also because he's giant red hair. It's all together the worst picture that has ever been. I'm going to make pudding. I had to say it. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm genuinely sorry. So the trial led to trial must have been like people must have been whacking off to the trial. Okay. Hold on. So this is a full report of the trial that they printed up a pamphlet. Can you look at the picture over there? What's happening under the bed? Oh my God. There's a guy. There's a little person under the bed. That's a that's
Starting point is 00:52:10 a leprechaun man. So I think what's happening here is that he has another woman in his house and his wife's there and he's just hanging out like they got. I don't agree. You don't agree. No, I think that is his wife and he was just banging her and he came home and he went under the bed and she's like, Oh, let me just get my hair back to normal. Yeah. Yeah. And he's like, Oh my God. Yeah, I've got my pants around my ankles under your bed. And the guy's like, Yes, I don't really know. They had good feathers, but they weren't the kind of feathers I would buy. You know, darling. Gosh, isn't this just paradise? Smells a bit funny, doesn't it, darling? Red hog. It smells like a wet sex man. A moisture
Starting point is 00:53:07 piglet's lost. I feel like we're laughing harder than the crowd in this part. We're having a good time. So when he left Boston, they said he was quote leaving in his wake riot tumult rape, swindles, perjury, blackmail and shootings. Well, this changed a little bit. Good thing we got the fun out of the way. So he next goes to Lawrence, Kansas, where he's again working as a minister. Whoa. She loves Lawrence. Loves Larry. So papers there warned locals immediately when he arrived, quote, keep your wives and daughters fuck machine coming lock your doors judge red fucker coming. Not enough did and soon they wanted him out of Lawrence. Get out of here. You told us not to let you fuck our daughters, but we did.
Starting point is 00:54:07 The ginger banger must leave. And the ginger banger made his way to San Francisco. So he he's just about to plow the fields of San Fran. He he he he he's at the Baptist Metropolitan temple. He is love this church going guy, the electric electric. Give me the erection to last great speaker. People love him. Now this this temple holds 5000 people. So he becomes one of the city's most influential religious leaders right off the bat. Well, finally some power to abuse. Yes. And he's a big supporter of the workman's party. Okay. In 1879, the party nominated him as their candidate for mayor. Okay. So Isaac's running for mayor. And Charles had always backed the working man's party. But once Isaac is nominated, he's like
Starting point is 00:55:03 I'm out. I fucking hate this guy. He hates he's jealous. He hates his history. And yeah, I mean, I think he hates that a new powerful guy rolled into town. And he and you know, he fucks he fucks ladies like crazy. Like, sure. Yeah, he's the sporting stallion. Yeah, people get guys get mad at that. Some it sounds like in some areas questionable as far as the were two keys turned on the sex as he was run out of town. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's not great. Sure. Yeah. Okay, let's just great. Yes, let's. Well, yes, should be talked about I write right. Yes. Absolutely not always given. Right. Right. Great. Okay. Thanks for joining us. It's chemistry is why people listen. It's not what we're talking about. You and
Starting point is 00:55:49 I did you you turned it into something about you. You and I are having a thing right now. Uh huh. We don't need words. They're essential to the podcast in the eyes. It's not going to translate through a download. So ginger fucker. Well, listen, I've never been run out of town. So, uh, so he hates him. And I like to picture that he has a penis like a pig's tail. Okay, keep going. So I just wanted to so that we all could all see what I'm seeing. I think we all I think we all like to picture that perfect. So he just starts attacking Calak in the Chronicle. He called him a mock minister and a carpet bag demagogue. In another issue, he wrote Calak was quote, a burlesque divine whose aspiration to high
Starting point is 00:56:44 office is the nature of public shame. Okay. Yeah. The Chronicle reporter that Calak had been seen seducing dozens of women and drinking and drinking tons of gin and saloon. We six three and Irish looking. Plus everyone's drinking and saloon. The idea. I think that's this time. I'm not sure you see that guy drinking. I'm worried that that guy has a bit of alcohol consumption problem. You seen that guy over there? We all like to have a good time, but man, you have some respect for yourself. Hey, I like to drink this as much as the next man. But come on, at some point you got to recognize that you're not, you know, you're a grown ass boy, you know, you got a campy, take it out. Are you all right? You look at sort
Starting point is 00:57:38 of like seeing through me a little bit. And my point is that when in this town, unfortunately, we have rules. And when it comes to someone is someone drinking at a bar, you got to be straightforward. And by the way, I wouldn't mind. I could do another gin, but only because it is guys. I was usually guys. I was someone who's got a lesson. You know, I just came up here to order another beer. Yeah. Same with me. I know. No, you are the bartender. Oh, shit, fucking shit, dude. Holy shit. All right, I'll take a gin. They get snappy. So, Kelly's furious about this. He attacks Charles from the pulpit. He said Charles had offered him a deal to back him for mayor
Starting point is 00:58:38 if he split the spoils when he won. Wow. And Cali, Cali told his flock, quote, give Mr. De Young my compliments and tell him to go to hell. Okay, then I promise you if I'm elected mayor, I will kill the San Francisco Chronicle. Whoa, Jesus. I'll graze it right down the middle of its pages. Doesn't phase Charles. The next day's Chronicle headline, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali. Cali, Cali, Cali, Cali Cali.
Starting point is 00:59:30 Like an unclean leper is one of the all that should be a movie Like a bizarro pipe pipe, I mean this guy would have fucking tweeted like a master. Oh, yeah Absolutely, yeah, everyone would start with thread The and then like the 18th tweet is the interesting part you're like finally The next Sunday Caliq responded and told his congregation quote the day I like that. He has to wait till Sunday The deung's approach nearer than any persons in history whether man or devil to the monstrous model of consummate an Unrelieved depravity
Starting point is 01:00:18 They are hyenas of society hybrid welts of sin and shame Moral lepers, but you can't come back with leper after you just got called a leper Weak for sure weak, but was anyone in church just like when do you do the Bible? Feels like you've kind of lost the plot a little bit So Charles that's Charles Charles Charles is pushing his writers to go even further with attacks. He wrote a sentence Threat that only he figured Caliq would know about about his adulterous trial in Boston So he did like a coding coding. They did like a coded thing that no one else knew but Caliq would know
Starting point is 01:01:04 If you're a journalist at the paper like I just feel like maybe no, no, no every third letter has to be a deed Zodiac signs There we go Smiley face Caliq doesn't give a shit quote Charles D. Young is the wickedest man in the world He may be without rival in hell if he does not go to hell the institution should be abolished The institution of hell It's like the hull of fame it's very very bonds doesn't get in fuck the whole place I mean
Starting point is 01:01:43 Oh What a movement The I the institution I will bring the devil up here and fire him myself Satan you go work at the night and I'd set story on our good enough. It's I've condemned this place this shithole That's the hell. I'm shut it down. That's it. You're all Gordon Ramsey is here Yeah, you go this is hell's hell Someone y'all go somewhere else you a bit of nails is nothing Shut it down. We're not doing dinner. Yes. Hi question. Yes. Hi
Starting point is 01:02:25 Isn't hell not so much a physical place But like if we all goes like if you shut it down we go somewhere isn't that still hell because it's mostly You know who we are get the fuck out of the church. Okay, that's fair. It's got an understand I'm just saying it's like Congress like if you blew up the building whatever But it's the people that are that make up Congress what part of get the fuck out. Are you not understanding? Get the fuck out If you want to learn about God and Jesus go to a church. This is a church shut the fuck up Why don't you get it the fuck out five fucking minutes ago? It's like you get redder
Starting point is 01:03:07 Then you get angry and I gotta admit the ladies are a little turned on Of course they are I'm an overheating thermometer He went on the de Young's are the bastard progeny of a whore Born in the slums and nursed in the lap of prostitution I the idea that this is in church and you're talking about the Bible like Like they're awful whore. It's like well you he's of a virgin. There's a lot of weird shit Yeah, but you know
Starting point is 01:03:47 Okay, but personal that's what they always say sure That's next week next week. We'll do a bit of the Bible. I promise I keep coming up here meaning to do some of the Bible Just keep forgetting so What's the cross guy's name again? The big deal one Frank no, it's oh My god, this is mortifying God he died for the sins. He's this is my first time here long John Silver. Oh
Starting point is 01:04:21 So the reason he said this is because Charles mother was a sex worker and He just because the other guy Naphtha Lee or something he's alluded to it. Okay the mother So this is the first time that it just dropped the fucking bomb, right? Okay, so and my guess is that Charles has no unresolved issues with this stuff Yeah, no, and he's very calm about things like this right. Yes, I'm standing right you would call him
Starting point is 01:04:51 Understand he was when he would reach out and say hey, let's have a talk. Hey, my it was tough times My mother did what you had to do. Yeah, I heard you said some stuff. I said some stuff. That's right Now, let me miss you with this pistol From a foot away So on August 23rd 1879 in the morning Charles left the papers office and flagged down a carriage He told the driver to take him to 961 Mission Street, which was Callix home They got there and he was not there because he was at the temple. So he told them to take him to the temple and
Starting point is 01:05:27 He parked out back with the carriage and he told the carriage driver to wait Callix came out at 10 a.m. And a young boy approached and Said a woman in a carriage wanted to pay her respects to him. Oh, wow Now it's a lady. Sure. So I could not turn that down Mm-hmm my breath terrible. Perfect. I could be fucking soon He walked over to the carriage took off his glove to shake the young lady's hand sure and As he reached to open the door Charles pulled back the curtain of the carriage and yelled quote now. I've got you Everything is like silent film villain now. I've got you you're in the crosshairs of the woke mafia
Starting point is 01:06:11 and He's shocked Wow now Callix huge so hard to miss sure Oh, how did he and the ball went into his the left side of his chest? Okay? He stumbles back blood is spurting out. Okay, and he starts stumbling towards the temple Charles takes a takes a step out of the carriage and shoots again and he hits callic in the left thigh and Callix said quote. Oh my god. I Love the person who was like recounting the exact words. He said now. I've got you and
Starting point is 01:06:47 Then when he shot him in the chest, he goes, ooh And then he shot his leg and he goes, oh, no not my leg and Then as it's bleeding he goes, that's a lot of red sauce. I Remember it so well officer Yeah, so Charles Jumped in the carriage to escape, but it's too late because the working man's party Have be having a rally nearby good and they run over when they hear the shots And now they try to pull Charles out of the carriage
Starting point is 01:07:26 But he starts pointing his gun at all of them and then they back off careful he'll miss He says quote. I will shoot dead the first man who lays a hand on me So they're like, all right, but they're not letting the carriage leave either right and then they're like, let's hang him So a guy goes to get a rope. I'll be back. Let me get rope and then we'll get him. I Live really far away My so my house is in Danville, so my wife Got yet Dan was just so far from here where we are now local stuff good
Starting point is 01:08:03 So I got home my wife, I guess do that rope out so much the hardware store no rope What are the odds? So now I'm gonna go to two other places try to get rope I realize it's getting dark, but you know, we should wait to hang him proper Just go. Okay. See you in a bit. You don't have to come back. Okay, get it before you come back You don't come back and tell us if it's not there. Just get it. Yes. The first thing I'll do is return with it Okay, great. Great. I'll be back with rope Crazy shit happen no rope Just go find rope I was gonna I wanted to update you I said don't do that
Starting point is 01:08:43 Well, I think you're gonna want to hear this. I don't think we are yeah, you are we want to kill this guy We all want him dead. I agree. We need rope. So can I give you the update? I don't have the rope No, we got that but I can get it tomorrow This city is fucking rope all over it I know that's what makes this situation so baffling from a rope standpoint. We import tons of it from Danville I know there's a Danver, which is Right Danville. That's what I said. It's like a guy named Dan fucked in Anvil Duh
Starting point is 01:09:21 Anyway, I've got a lead on floss. Will that do no Mmm. I think we should all go out to dinner Make a night of it Get the rope tomorrow probably have you ever been part of a mob? No, I'm so nervous You guys look so awesome. Yeah, you're everyone's so Agitated but organized. You're really bumming the high. Oh Like where am I part of the mob officially? You're the fucking rope getter. Oh my god. I thought this was like a pledging situation
Starting point is 01:09:55 You're out. Oh, I just got in you're not and you're out. You were never in you had a chance to be in what a great sense of loss I'm wearing now Gosh, what a roller coaster day in the mob, huh? Hey, this is the woke mob, right? Want to make sure I'm in the right one. Yeah. Yeah. Oh wait, am I in the rope one? I wanted woke This is so classic me Yeah, yeah, I deserve that level of this The is it over clap Least everyone kind of meant it
Starting point is 01:10:50 So they've been better characters in the story We got a lumberjack leprechaun that fucks So before they can Kill him the cops arrive and they take Charles to jail Okay Now thousands of men gather outside the jail and they're marching up and on the street and they're chanting quote kill him kill him hemp hemp hemp Hemp hemp hemp. That's rope
Starting point is 01:11:22 Ropes made from hemp or they want to get high. It could be that they want to kill him but also get really Kill him kill him. Let's smoke weed. Yeah, that makes more sense So he's in jail for a week and the whole time Calak is in bed close to death Okay Like they think he's gonna die and he doesn't die like just keeps going on right doctors tell people he's not gonna live And then people are demanding that Charles be killed But Calak doesn't die and he struggles on day after day His supporters stood in a circle around his now drive
Starting point is 01:11:57 His supporters stood in a circle around his now dried blood on the street to stop street cleaners from washing it away Oh my lord It's just there's all I mean we just always had these fucking lunatics If you touch the blood you'll die Don't touch the blood we're fucking Leave the blood where it is That's our lord's blood You know when I look at it I see an eagle
Starting point is 01:12:19 I see a dong. Why do I see a dong? Look closer And my daughter The fuck is going on in there Don't look close. Don't look too close Stop looking at it Boy she's really getting it Yeah
Starting point is 01:12:35 Hey sex is normal Don't kink shame the blood puddle guy Yeah That's right finally he's got rights too I agree Dave So he's a guy who likes to watch his daughter fucking blood puddles What's your problem? Maybe we stop digging So
Starting point is 01:12:59 The working man's party is making just fiery speeches around town About what's happened Right Calak's son Milton is one of these guys making speeches Quote I yet believe my father will live to be mayor of San Francisco And will tread on the grave of that brute de Young If de Young does not hang then help me kill him
Starting point is 01:13:20 Okay straight forward Yep So doctors reported that Calak had quote The constitution of a grizzly bear and was improving They said he was conscious and he was fighting back And he's eating salmon out of the river with his mouth Unbelievable what this guy's doing He's not doing it
Starting point is 01:13:37 There were five doctors attending to him and quote working feverishly Okay sure Oh yeah They're just sitting around going I Should we take the bullet out again or I don't know There's like a hard part that's kind of over right We've taken the bullet out 19 times Next to it one more time
Starting point is 01:13:52 Yes But then he took a turn And now they say he's got a very slim chance of survival He's becoming a polar bear But then on the ninth day Temperature wise not in the adorable factor But don't sleep on the grizzly they can be quite cute too Then on the ninth day doctor said quote
Starting point is 01:14:14 If anything he is better he is losing some flesh but looks well This doctor how about no updates until you have an official like Now he's lost a bunch of his skin but he's good He's now skinless Isaac Calak He's got blue eyes and can shoot lasers But we're pretty good we're happy And then the day before the election For mayor
Starting point is 01:14:37 Yes Doctors come out and say he is going to live You vote for him if you want a living mayor The people of San Francisco are excited and they elect him mayor Now no one can believe it because he was always a huge long shot Right And so everyone just thinks well he got shot and survived and that's why Which is why
Starting point is 01:15:00 Yeah now he's a shot shot Henry George wrote quote The crack of the young's pistol from behind the curtains of a coop Fired Dr. Calak into the mayorality You're right Charles got out of jail on a twenty five thousand dollar bond And went straight to the chronicle Okay right I thought he was going to go to the hospital
Starting point is 01:15:23 Like leave me alone with the patient for a moment I'd like to examine him myself And he said he's not leaving He was going to keep putting out the truth until his trial later in the year Oh God He sent a reporter back He's a bit manic He sent a reporter back east to dig up dirt on Calak
Starting point is 01:15:41 And put together a sixty page pamphlet Smearing Calak I feel like people don't care right Is he like it feels like he's just doing this now to Oh Charles Charles I know Charles now wants to Because there's shitloads of dirt on this guy
Starting point is 01:16:01 Charles wants to bury him I mean like a lot of it's already out there Maybe people might not know Yeah I guess Whatever it's a pamphlet it's a little book Sixty pages It's a sixty page fucking dirt sheet on a guy like It's pretty good
Starting point is 01:16:15 So he's going to release it ten days before his attempted murder trial Okay And Charles is working late on Friday April 23 Is this going to be Judge Lake again? 1880 When the front door burst open it was Milton Calak He was quote ashen faced He had a gun
Starting point is 01:16:34 Because Milton had just read an advanced copy of the pamphlet Oh my God And he shot at Charles from six feet away And hit a and shattered a glass door It's just like Charles jumped behind an employee he'd been speaking to And used him as a shield You're going to get a raise you see
Starting point is 01:16:59 Stand there Goofy That's why you need a union Milton shot again and missed again So he's still shooting while he's behind the employee I'll shoot your shield then you Charles then takes that moment to run for the back room Milton shoots a third time, misses again Then a fourth
Starting point is 01:17:24 This one hit Charles in the right side of his jaw Oh Went through his juggler vein And stopped in the back of his neck Charles collapsed He was dead Well that was swift Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:38 39 years old Wow A life well lived A life uh A funeral was held several days later As the funeral possession made its way through the streets People softly booed and hissed I like the soft boo
Starting point is 01:18:03 Charles? If I may quickly I just noticed that the beer opener talks What? What are you doing over there? What a weird little man you are It's supposed to talk Did you just, can you open me one? Did you just pick up a beer opener and say hey hold on
Starting point is 01:18:22 I have to stop the show because I think this beer opener talks And then it didn't talk Can we get some batteries for this disorder? Otherwise I feel like it was a waste There's nobody over there They don't have to know that asshole So Charles head rested on a pillow
Starting point is 01:18:45 Embroidered with Did it for his mother That's what every single pillow should say at a funeral Everybody should just have that It didn't hurt his mother What the fuck does that mean? I mean he did do it for his mother I guess
Starting point is 01:19:07 I mean he started doing it for himself But the killing of the guy was Well he didn't even kill the guy But he shot him Oh he did kill him Because he said bad stuff about his mommy Did he kill him? No he didn't kill him
Starting point is 01:19:20 But he said bad stuff about his mommy Yeah, no I know It's just like You know I would be like Maybe we don't put anything on the pillow Mommy's baby I don't know So
Starting point is 01:19:37 Milton goes on trial Open and shut case He shot him in front of witnesses He came to kill him At the end of the trial Mayor Khalik testified He calmly described everything Charles DeYoung Had done to him
Starting point is 01:19:50 All the terrible things He'd done to him and his family And as he was speaking In the witness stand He kept jiggling two objects in his hand The whole time Bullets As he's telling all these stories
Starting point is 01:20:02 Everyone starts looking at his hand And the prosecutor finally can't take it And he jumps up And says quote Tell us Mayor Khalik What is it you have in your hand? And the mayor rose With his great speaking voice said quote
Starting point is 01:20:14 They are the two bullets from DeYoung's murderous weapon Which were extracted from my body And then he walked over to the jury And handed them to a juror Now I've just got two bulls Wink wink juror nine And of course they found Milton Not guilty due to extenuating circumstances
Starting point is 01:20:38 Because he had the meditation balls? Yeah Okay sure The juries are just It's a good system When they read the verdict The Prost kidding attorney was so astonished That he swallowed his tobacco cud
Starting point is 01:20:54 Well that guy's a creep I've lost and I'll have diarrhea Real one two So What a cartoon character No no no no So the Chronicle continued under Michael DeYoung At one point the paper took on a sugar king
Starting point is 01:21:20 Claws, speckles Sugar kings are guys who Think of it like a mafia guy Who controls the sugar in Hawaii It's absolutely pure The Chronicle accused him of Swindling stockbrokers Of his Hawaiian sugar company
Starting point is 01:21:36 Treating laborers like slaves And when this happened Because it happened right before a big It's like stockbroker meeting or something Sure Claws' son Adolf lost it He went to the Adolf's speckles
Starting point is 01:21:50 It's like Hitler beer Try a new Adolf's speckles Bubbly but not too much So he went Adolf went to the exact same office Where Charles had been killed And shot at Michael Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:22:08 He hit him Okay But he didn't die he was seriously injured Okay Newspapers across the US Decried the vigilante world of San Francisco I mean yeah it's Yeah it's crazy
Starting point is 01:22:21 I was like what is going on Aren't you nude like You're supposed to report the news Yeah we are the news Some said getting rid of the final DeYoung Was a public service Wow Ambrose Bierce said
Starting point is 01:22:36 Quote Hatred of DeYoung is the first And best test of a gentleman Wow Okay sure And then Adolf was acquitted For reasonable cause Reasonable cause
Starting point is 01:22:51 She well you probably should have Killed him Legally speaking The jury finds that he Is okay that he tried to kill him Has he been pissed When will the law be done in this country Michael keeps writing the paper
Starting point is 01:23:11 He was very powerful Very successful He was California's representative to Chicago's Columbian Exposition In 1893 And when he was there He was like we have to hold an Exposition in San Francisco
Starting point is 01:23:22 Let's do that And he came back And the superintendent of San Francisco Was very against it But Michael did it anyway He had all the trees removed From 100 acres of Golden Gate Park And when questions said quote
Starting point is 01:23:39 What is a tree What are thousands What are thousands of trees Compared to the benefits of the Exposition Yes And we will make that a Forever standing policy of the country
Starting point is 01:23:51 Yes You know the problem too many trees Not enough Arby's For his entire life He was obsessed with developing What he called the vacant land Of Golden Gate Park Wow
Starting point is 01:24:07 Yeah he's just like Yeah boy without those trees Imagine Stupid trees We were here first trees He decided to run for Senate Has he been fighting a tree He shot at it
Starting point is 01:24:23 Completely missed it Looks like he grazed a branch He decides to run for Senate But this Scottish reporter Found out and he hated him Bloody bloody hell He hated Michael for taking bribes And you know
Starting point is 01:24:42 He's just everything I detest Shit Killing all the trees He killed all those bloody trees And when he did it He got a truck removed He was supposed to toss him over Your bloody shoulder
Starting point is 01:24:54 So he writes a series of articles In my bloody accent Jesus Christ this guy About Michael Back an unbelievable Michael Young And then at the end He reveals
Starting point is 01:25:06 By the way There's a big secret I've got to tell you Something you're not going to believe That he came across I came across something I think you'll find interesting Gang
Starting point is 01:25:16 The long missing Gustavus de Young That's right Oh I found him Bloody Gustavus He was under one of the trees He had found Gustavus Dressed in rags In a poppers ward
Starting point is 01:25:35 At the Stockton Insane Asylum Wow He apparently had a mental breakdown While working for Charles Sure That makes sense by the way And even though Michael was rich
Starting point is 01:25:47 He refused to pay the $15 a month To keep Gustavus living in dignity Wow So that was it Michael's hopes for becoming a senator Were over Everyone thought he was a piece of shit So he tried to improve his image
Starting point is 01:26:03 And insisted the Exposition Fair's Fine Arts Building Remain in Golden Gate Park As the city's first public art gallery And that's how San Francisco got The de Young Museum Wow That's what it first looked like back then
Starting point is 01:26:17 So congratulations It's like the way L.A. got Griffith Park Because he shot his wife in the face Yeah, honestly Everybody's terrible He shot his wife and they're like Sure, good for hiking Michael went on to serve three times
Starting point is 01:26:33 As a Delegate to the Republican National Convention He also went on to be director Of the Associated Press for 25 years Jesus And he died in 1925 Wow Oh An actor, Max Thoreau
Starting point is 01:26:48 Is the great-great grandson of Charles You can see him in SEAL Team On Netflix or The Bates Motel What the fuck kind of ending is this? I can't believe we're ending on a tiger beat shot Fuck I think it was better journalism back then I always love when journalists are like it
Starting point is 01:27:23 You know, they get like Glenn Greenwald He's a great guy who talks about how You're biased, you shouldn't be biased It's like this is fucking what journalism was It's always been fucking biased Think about Chris Cuomo with Andrew Cuomo And then Brian Stelzer The fuck is happening over here
Starting point is 01:27:41 We've never been able to see anything like this before It's pretty fucking straightforward We're all very confused as to how to handle all these lies Yeah Yeah, but at least you could, you know Walk into a paper with a gun easily I mean, it was just a simpler time, you know Oh my god
Starting point is 01:28:00 Stop doing that Fuck It was a wild west time, you know You what? It was the wild west time Yeah, it is, I mean, I... You know, time's got better in between Feels like we're...
Starting point is 01:28:16 What do you mean? Heading back down And boy, we armed to the teeth here Oh, what? Yeah, feels like... Oh, I haven't noticed that, has anything? Well, I mean, we laugh, we laugh But I'm pretty sure there'll be a time where I'll be like
Starting point is 01:28:27 What have you done to my thigh? No, it was just a podcast Although it would be pretty great if podcasters started shooting each other Well, let's not say that stuff Like, I'm in an elk outfit in the middle of the woods I just wake up after being drugged Like, the fuck? Where am I?
Starting point is 01:28:52 The fuck? My legs have been turned into hands Run Yes Why would that be Rogan that did that? Not me What kind of fucking... What's your problem?
Starting point is 01:29:15 What a great end to the podcast I hunt you like an elk You have like a mic strapped to my head like this Dave, no idea what the topic's gonna be about Stop it Every person listening No idea where he is or why he's an elk Every listener would be like
Starting point is 01:29:32 Yeah, that makes sense That makes sense, that's how it ended It's always going that way It's the great thing about this show I mean, the weird way for it to end would just be for it to end You need to drown me or something It needs to end in a duel
Starting point is 01:29:48 What we should do is, this should end in a duel Agreed Someday we'll be like, we're doing ten more And then at the end of this, a duel I grazed him Thank you guys so much for coming out We appreciate it A pleasure
Starting point is 01:30:10 Thank you Sources for this episode, Charles Adams The magnificent rogues of San Francisco Gray Brechen, Imperial San Francisco Richard Rodriguez, Twilight of the American Newspaper in Harper's And then a bunch of different newspapers As you can imagine, newspapers

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