The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 507 - Alice Stebbins Wells

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

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That's the stuff. Yes. That's how that's the bread and butter. I don't know if it is the bread and butter. I think it might just be the bread or maybe just the crust of the bread. That's what I'm talking about. Hey, talking about bread and butter,

this is just the crust. Someone just gave me the heels, ding-ding, out of the way. See, it's not. It's not bad. It's very bad. I think that's the point we're trying to do. Who are you on behalf of? The whole team.

Everybody involved in the. You know what? I sometimes feel like I needed a new team. Ding-ding, out of the way, old team. That's a great example. Ding-ding, ding-ding. Coming through. Yeah, we're.

Package on the back. Puppy in the front. Ding-ding on the bike. So I guess. Out the way. I guess what we need. Ring-ring, ring-ring. That's more accurate.

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Boom Boom? Yeah. And called it, quote, his jam-packed. Jam-packed? I'm the fucking hippo guy. Steve, okay. My name's Gary. My name's Gary.

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No. I sleep down, my friend. No. No, no. I guess the question to ask is how are Aaron's ears and how are all the listener's ears after? So that is going to play just as loud for the listeners? No.

No, okay. Take it down. All right, great. I have a choice of two dollops right here, that we could do. This is the first. It really is. This is a choose your own dollop.

Would you like to do one about a lady or a fella? Let's start with the lady. Oh! Oh, June 13, 1873, year of our Lord Jesus Christ. I've been watching a lot of Narcos, Mexico. Oh, good. You're the kind of person I think should be watching stuff like that.

Absolutely love that show. Absolutely, of course. Absolutely love it. Come on, Chapo, kill somebody. All right, let's remember that we're doing a show. Yeah, yeah. But I'm totally. We started the other one.

I end up rooting for Chapo. That's how that show goes. There we go. But now it's done. They're not making anymore. Is it great? No, sir. I don't know.

I just want to start our show. Alice Stebbins Wells was born in Manhattan, Kansas. Sure. I'm in Manhattan. Oh, wait. Shit! Shit! Yeah, it's not great.

It's a. Which way's Broadway, mister? Show, I know, nevermind. I'll just ask the cabbie as soon as I hail one. Here we are, sir. We don't have a cab. Where's the taxi? We don't have any taxis.

Well, I'm sure that a stranger will just pick me up. Boy, this city's known for whirlwinds. It's not. Look at it. Look at all the, which way's Times Square? We're actually. Is it that? There's a lot of corn.

We're known for corn puffs. Where is the Times Square? Which way to Broadway? Which way to Broadway? That's, we have a Main Street. Oh, which way to Main? And then we have First and Second Street. Right.

I'll take the subway. Which way's the Q? Third Street. Where's the Q? And Fourth Street. Where's the Q? And Fifth Street. Where's the Q?

And then we have Train called Q. And then nothing ever sticks. Where's the Q? I wanna head to Brooklyn. We don't have trains. What's Park Slope like? There's no Park Slope. I think I'm in the wrong Manhattan.

Yes, this is Kansas. Oh my, oh my God. Our slogan is, hey, we're not that good. Yeah. Anyway, we named it the same and it gets us a couple of tourists a year. Like me? Yeah, and you can't leave.

Oh, okay, well, same diff. Yeah. I guess I just walk through this field until I find a person. Start spending money. Okay, great, thank you. And watch out, I wouldn't go on the corn because I'm alakai.

The angel? No. Oh. Have you not seen Children of the Corn? No. Oh, you've never seen Children of the Corn? I mean, I know what that reference is about. A corn kid on board, man.

Now they're weird kids. They come out of corn. Come on. Come on. Right? What else is there? Just a corn kid. An alakai wasted on you.

Just wasted. I'm sorry. So Alice's parents. I make a lot of references to the musical cats that you don't understand. I've got my Mestophiles drops. Just keep reading the goddamn thing. Aaron, permission to treat my cohost is hostile.

Permission denied. Damn it. Yes, thank you, Aaron. So both of Alice's parents has had graduated from Oberlin College, a rarity back then, right? We're talking about the 1870s. They both moved to Hiawatha, Kansas, and her dad started a town newspaper there.

Okay. The Topeka Daily called him, quote, rather an odd character. Well, hopefully his paper is not the Topeka Daily. It's not. Okay, right. He's a real weirdo. Run with it.

I love it. Headline's about me. What a freak. Yeah. So Alice went to high school in Atchison, which is about 40 miles away from Hiawatha. So she either they moved there or she boarded there or whatever in high school.

No, not a lot about her childhood that we know. So after graduating, like her parents, she went to Oberlin College and she became a pastor's assistant in 1900. That's just like, if you're going to go to college, gotta just be like an assistant to a pastor, a baby pastor. It seems like you could be an assistant to a pastor

without going to college. Yeah, I think, I mean, I, again, I'm not trying to like, you know, I'm sure there's some. No, you're shitting on it. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, thank you. Just want to be.

Thank you. Thank you. If you're a pastor's assistant, you just need to read the one. Cloth, water, Bible, crucifix. I don't think either one of us know anything about churches. I just named a bunch of things that are in churches. Jesus, give me some Jesus juice.

What's it called? Give me the Jesus juice. The stuff we drink. Give me his blood. Sweat. His little, no, his blood. Give me a cup of J blood. Oh, it's wine.

That was a good year. Mm. Give me a little body. Give me a little body. I'm getting a little, getting a little crunk up on that Jesus juice. Give me a little, give me a little of that body.

Stop. Soak up that blood. Stop. Mm. I normally eat a little body before I go out on a night of blood pounding. Hey, pastor. Yeah, I'm just telling you

that you want to line your stomach with some body before you get into the blood pounding. Right, but you're scaring people. This is a sermon or something. Is that a sermon? What is this? It's a sermon. I'm in front of y'all,

bearing myself. Do you? Yes. I need more jewels on this cup if people are going to believe that Christ's blood is in it. How did you get the job? Huh?

I went to college. I'm the Van Wilder of Christianity. I think that's what this is. I think it might not be. Whoops. I'm kind of worried about. Let's do some blood funnels. Okay.

Now I'm in. I'm going to do a blood stand. So. Let's play blood pong. No. No. So Dr. Newell Dwight Hills at Plymouth Church in Brooklyn. So she moves to Brooklyn

and she's working for that dude. Brooklyn, Kansas. She's like, they got a whole New York here. Oh my Lord. And then she went to the Hartford Theological Seminary and she studied Old Testament history and criminology. Well, I mean, it's amazing to be like, I'm going to study religion and crime.

It's just classic double major. So she would also fill in for pastors who were on vacation in the Northeast. So she's cruising around doing a little, you know. Sure. She was the first woman to hold church services in Maine. Okay. And she took a job as a pastor of a Perry Oklahoma church

in 1903. I would imagine that there is great resistance to a female pastor. Are you kidding? Yeah. I mean. Burn it down. It's a woman.

Right. She lies. Only men talk to an invisible man in the sky. She can't tell me about the Lord. She's got a vagina. Impossible. So while she was there, she met and married Frank Wells.

Okay. So her name is now Alan Alice Stevan's Wells. Okay. And Frank's a farmer. He'd come from Wisconsin. Right. Yeah. Go pack her.

They had three kids. Okay. As a pastor, Alice came to believe women should be cops. Okay. Interesting. Because she would see how cops interacted with women and thought it wasn't working, if you can imagine. So she feels like they're like some sort of club.

Club? Yeah. Like they're just like a crew of people who don't let outsiders in and then they just have their own like secret coded language and really are just like a vigilante squad towards people who are not them. Get out of here, Alice.

She thought that women could be more effective than men in certain situations. Like if women cops wanted to- The problem is you have to pitch this to men. Yeah. You know what I mean? But what you're missing is that you have the mind of a woman and that is affecting and clouding

your judgment that is wrong. So if cops went into dance halls or skating rinks or picture houses with children and women, more difficult for them to relate to than a woman is what she's saying. Yep, for sure. So the Wells family ends up moving to Los Angeles. I couldn't figure out what for,

but he had a business opportunity. And Alice got there and she started campaigning for women to be on the police force. Okay. And across the U.S., at this point, female suspects were being beaten or worse by cops, if you can imagine, like that was happening back then. I mean, we've gotten rid of that.

Yes, it's hard to imagine a force of that. Yeah, it really is. I mean, the world we live in now is obviously- Is different. Yes. Yes. As we said so. A sex worker had been badly beaten

during an arrest at an L.A. barber shop that was also a boarding house. Jesus, something like a lot was going on at that. I mean, it's like four different things. I just, I'm just, in my mind, the idea that a barber shop is also a boarding house- Pretty great. Is really the most upsetting thing.

Pretty great. They just sleep on the floor? Yeah. They had to. Well, yeah, at the end of the day, you have little hair beds. You don't sweep. By the end of the day, if you don't sweep, you've got what I would call a cushy floor.

Come on, get in here, hamsters. All right. It's time to go to bed. Here we go. There's some long curls over here if anyone likes a real soft blay. So yeah, so that was a big deal. And Alice thought female cops would lead

to less violence against women. Sure, of course. This is what, again, this is back when everybody agreed they didn't like cops before- Dragnet. Well, yeah, basically, before Dragnet. Before TV and movies told us the cops were good. Nobody liked cops.

Dude, I guess I've just been keying into it recently, but when you actually do really look at how many shows are about cops or emergency workers or hospitals, it's like the, I mean, there's just so many shows that are like, cops are perfect. They're figuring out stuff. They're a team. Yeah, like-

I mean, still. Law and orders is like, how long is that? That thing's on forever. NCIS is like, NCIS, Cincinnati? We don't know, there's nowhere else. We don't know what else. NCIS, Prim. And they solve, I think it's 2% of crimes

is how many they actually solve. So, law and order is already, it'd be so good if there's a law and order at the end of it. Everyone, they were like, I don't know, man. Oh, another murder happened. We were wrong. Shit, all right, don't, don't. What is this show?

It's just called, it's not even, it's just called And. This week on Didn't Get Him. So, right, so people don't like cops and a lot of California cities had already, they had women matrons since the 1890s. What does that mean? So, they specialized in the care of female prisoners. Okay.

And they worked in the city and county prisons. So, they already knew like, let's not have dudes around women who were locked up because that can be a bad situation. So, Alice starts talking to anyone who will listen in LA and she's going, she's not going to the police. She's going to like pastors and people who have a lot of influence in the city.

And everyone's getting on board. They're like, yeah, that sounds great. So, when her proposal gets to the Los Angeles City Council, pretty much the whole community supports it. And she basically wills the city through activism to allow female cops. Okay, wow. And the city council enacted the law

and it went into effect in 1910. Okay. So, on June 8, 1910, Alice had a meeting with Los Angeles mayor, George Alexander, who's Scottish. He's not going to be around long, I'm sorry, but he is Scottish. Well, I'm a judge for a little while. What do you want to ask me?

She asked. Where do you go? She asked. Why don't you ask me a question? She asked to be a cop. You'd like to be a police officer yourself. Yes. You think you'd fit in the blue with the badge and the gun.

And the baton. Yeah. You think you can have a baton? Yeah. You think you're baton quality? Yeah. Yeah. I'll tell you what, you're batoff.

Yeah, right off, honestly. I think the problem is, you've not been in church in a while, so you're looking for, you've got idle hands, which says the devil's playground. You go go in there and give a bit of a sermon, right? That seemed to be your call and get your crucifix on, you know, have your crucifix,

your crucifix, like you need it. All right, let me walk you through a situation since I'm not going to be around long, right? There's a hostage situation in a barn, right? Two equines inside of it. Okay. You only got four bullets. There's two, what?

You got a question? What's an equine? It's a horse, you fool. Christ almighty. Okay, a horse. Okay, so a horse. You got horses. A horsey.

You got two children, hostage situation. A horse is there holding the children hostage? No, a bloody bloke is holding the bloody, the horses are irrelevant. There's two children. There's a man. He's got two children inside of a barn with him. Is he behind the horses?

He's, I said, you don't know the situation. That's the whole thing. You've not got extra bloody vision. We've not even got bloody x-ray. What are you doing? What do you do? Well, I set the barn on fire. Welcome aboard.

You are the one. So, she talks to me, she asked me to make a cop. Sorry, this is the mayor, right? So the mayor looks at her. She's 36. Okay. She's five to 120 pounds. Okay.

From another country, 1.5 meters. The mayor, quote, how can you be a police officer? How can you be a police officer who's like that? Yeah. You. She said she wasn't planning on using physical force and that she didn't actually want to make arrests. Quote, I want to keep people from needing to be arrested.

Oh, get the fuck out of here. You're on the wrong line, I worry. There's not a job for you. We've not got a position for that. You want to prevent the cops from doing that job while being a cop. She's just like, yeah, I want everyone to be okay. You want people to be,

it sounds like you want to protect and to some extent serve. Yeah, that's right. Well, it's bloody laughable. Yeah, I'm sorry, but that's the best. It is absolutely foolish. Yeah. So, Alice.

You should kill them. The point is to kill them all. No, the whole reason I want to do this so that doesn't happen. That's why we need more female police. You have a fundamental issue in understanding what it means to be an officer of the law. Okay.

You kill them. No. Then you arrest them. No. Then we put them on trial after they're dead. That's what we do that. Yes, I would say. So Alice told the mayor that more and more young men

and women were going to be, were going to undesirable cafes and other places of amusement. So she's like, look, young ladies and little innocent young men and ladies are going to bad places. Right. Quote, a woman could often stop that sort of thing

where a man would only arouse antagonism. A woman knows better how to deal with situation where a girl's welfare is concerned. Yeah. The idea that there's, I'm not really understanding how, like it's so, yeah, no shit.

Yeah, you'll probably relate to the women more. That's right. Yeah, that makes sense. Alice told the mayor, oh, sorry. The mayor then said, no ordinance permitted a woman to be a cop. And Alice whips out the document. She's like, right here.

35 of LA's leading citizens have signed it from bankers to preachers. They'd signed a petition demanding women be made police officers and the council, city councils voted on it. And Los Angeles is exploding at this time. The population had tripled between 1900 and 1909. Okay.

And it's now a city of 300,000. There's, it's still got an old Western vibe sort of. Right. And there's gambling and prostitutional and stuff. Cultures, morals, clashing, you know. And with all those signatures from city leaders, Mayor Alexander comes around to the idea of a lady cop. He's like, all right, well, everybody wants it.

Okay. Except for me. Right. By the way, though, that is nice to hear that public demand is like, you eventually go like, okay, well, I mean, maybe if everybody wants it, let's try. You fucking idiots want this. Let's go for it.

All right, let's try. Oh, you got a dumb ass petition? Yeah, that's fine. Well, it seems like, okay, you can be an officer. So. You're so tiny though. You're so tiny. Do you know how little you actually are?

You're so small. Aaron just walked out. Now we can, now we can do the show. Shit. Nothing. No, is it male? No, it's getting back to the power cord. Well, the power cord.

So, so later that day, he, the mayor told a LA Times reporter quote, many young girls and boys are started on evil lives and a woman could easily discover these things where a uniform policeman could not. Okay. So she can find rationality. She can find the evil.

Right. She's the evil finder. She's, I mean, I get, yeah. Yeah. Of course. Now my question is, were there dog cops before lady cops? Oh, I don't know when dog cops came in. It'd be interesting to see if the.

I bet there were dog. Males first, of course, were like, dogs make sense. Women are crazy. I mean, because they use dogs to do crowd control for years. So it makes sense that they already had, but maybe we should look into that before. Or bloodhounds like, you know, there's that one. Smell that rag there now.

See if you find them on the ragnash, is it? Yeah. So the police commission then meets a few days later to consider it. And Chief Alex, Chief Galloway is worried. So the police chief is Alexander Galloway. I think he's also a Scottish. We'll find out.

You know, he is. I just got, actually, we just found out he is. He's worried Alice would take orders from women's clubs, churches and charitable organizations who had signed the petition. So his concern is that. I mean, it's amazing who the bad guys are. Well, unfortunately, she might be influenced

by these good nature's organizations. Could be terrible. Can women take, do they take orders from men, or how does it work? Yeah, we're not sure. Do they hear what men say stuff? Do they, because I know, in my house, you know, the wife.

All right, relax. It's actually a weird ass thing, not a weird ass thing. Look, we're testing to see if the female mind is capable of absorbing rules and regulations. I'm like, hey, don't go buying a new dress today. She comes home with a new dress. Again. Can't afford that.

Extremely specific to your household, which is not exactly what we're after now. I'm a different now, Scotsman. I'm the police chief, to be clear. And when I ask for sexual favors. Stop. Take five minutes outside of the room, please. For sexual favors?

Stop. Talking for a minute, please. This is a meeting about something that is not pertaining to your household exclusively. This is, stop, your mouth's open, and that's a problem, right away. Should not be preparing to have speech. I think outside the room would be the best place

for you for a little bit, just to, you know, recognize where you are and... Are there women out there? No, it's not about going to find women or have any sort of sexuality. But it's not about sex and just... Well, why would you want... Well, why would you want...

I don't, I don't... They're just around. Look, climb out the window and stand on the ledge for a moment. Okay. If it is nice and you'd have called out there and you'd be alone, I think that's right. And have a think.

Have a long think. Are there going to be women down on the ground that I can see? Look, we're about five stories up, so I don't think the idea of... Don't even think about women. Here's the deal. I like them.

Right. Please stop. Stop, stop, stop. Crazy. It's like our brains are different. Like, they're from Mars and I'm from Venus. Well, that's... You understand.

It's a crazy way of putting them. That makes no sense. Get out the window. You know what I need? A little bit of chicken soup for the soul. What the hell's going on? What the hell's going on? He was a future book predictor.

So... So, God, he's worried about that. It's obviously bullshit. He thought they're... Those women were there to push women's interests and that's why they were getting her on the force. It's also amazing at a time when women are so totally represented that he's like,

careful, they might try to be like us. Really, they want a phone? They might want fairness. The chief wanted a promise. He wanted a promise that Alice would report to him and follow department rules, instead of doing some lady cop thing. Instead of being a rogue, yeah.

A rogue lady cop. Right, yeah, right. The commission assured him she'd be working under him and they approved her. Okay. So, then they discussed her salary. Oh, God. We were thinking we could give you one brush a month.

Patrolman made $102 a month. Okay. So, the chief said she should get $75. Okay, right. I mean, it's amazing that we've always been like, you're three quarters of us. Do you understand? You're a three quarter version.

And everyone agreed that made sense. That makes sense, obviously that makes sense. No, she can't make the same as a man. Three fourths what we are. Alice was then sworn in as the first female cop in Los Angeles on September 13th, 1910. Some people say she was the first cop, but she wasn't, there were a couple others around.

The first female cop? Yeah. Okay. She wasn't. Okay. She wasn't to be called a police woman, but instead a woman policeman. Why, who gives a fuck, why?

Because in their brains are like, well, that's a policeman. Policeman's a policeman. So, we can't call it a police woman because they're all policemen. So, I don't know what we're gonna do. We're okay, I think I have a problem here. We're reconsidering putting you on the force. We're not, we have not been able to figure out

the title that makes sense. What about, and hear me out, woman policeman. Too close, I feel like. It's really good, because it describes the whole thing. Not man cop. Because she's being a cop, but she's not a man cop, which isn't a thing. Lady enforcer, not a police.

Yes. That's a pitch of a name. Yeah, less money, less cop. Three quarter cop, not man. Yeah. Hyphenated, I think that works. That's great. That's really good.

Can't get it out of my head. I could say it again if you asked me to. She also would not be allowed to carry a gun, like male cops. It feels a little performative. It sounds like she was fine with, based on what she wants to do. So she, I mean, she's doing what is difficult,

but smart, which is sort of like, yeah, agree to these, like make these concessions, because she still wants to do the things she wants to do. She's not getting caught up in like the ego, nature of how fucked up that really is. She's going, okay, yeah, right. I'm a non-man cop and I don't get guns. Great.

But I don't think, she doesn't want a gun because she, her whole thing is like, the men cops are violent and we don't want that. So she doesn't want the gun? What the hell? Press asked if she would carry a billy club and she said she would just rely on being a woman. We're going to call that a Sally Club.

I quote, the weapon nature gave a woman was a scream and in civilized communities, it is invincible. Okay. Okay, yeah. So she's got interesting answers. Yep. So she's going to scream. She's going to scream.

Okay. Like a woman, like a woman scream. She has a particular woman scream that nature gave her. Is this how the siren gets invented? It's exactly how it gets invented. Although she acknowledged that in rural areas, a scream might not cut it.

Okay, so. Quote, it would not be bad to know a few bone breaking tricks. Okay. So in rural areas, she's getting trained for. Well, she, she was actually studying jujitsu and kept a hat pin on her head. There we go.

Which she called quote, the best weapon and most to be depended on. Wow, jujitsu and a hat pin. That's a fucked up story. This is like an origin story. Yeah, it's a scary person there. Yeah. Yeah, coming at you with it.

Throws you down. Hat pin. Out of the sole reporters quote, I will deal chiefly with the proprietors of such places and we'll see that all laws are obeyed and the places are kept clean and moral. Okay. Moral.

Moral police. Yeah, I mean, essentially. Yeah. And more quote, this is serious work and I do hope the newspapers will try not to make fun of it. Oh boy. The newspapers, the other times wrote quote, said the little woman yesterday

as she left the police station. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. And by the way, they're probably not, they're probably like, that was a nice way of putting that. Yeah, she's a little tiny woman. She's a little tiny woman and she left the, the doll lady left. Finally a cop you can throw.

Doll woman leaves. Baby cop, actually woman. Just the fact that they printed her quote. Yeah. And said that's what the little woman. Said the insignificant little non-man. So this is national news. The Honolulu advertiser got down to the important stuff.

Quote, she will not have to don a uniform, nor is it supposed that she will favor a hobble skirt. What's a hobble skirt? So hobble skirts were skirts that were designed so you couldn't like run or walk very well. They're like, they're shaped like, almost like a reverse pair. So it's up here and then it goes down

so your legs can't really move. So you got like sleeping bag legs? I just, you know, if there's an item of clothing and part of the description is hobble, they shouldn't be, they shouldn't be around. It's called the stumble gown. Other papers got down to the important stuff. The LA Times wrote her police badge,

quote, pinned over her heart, hid as much of her little self as a breastplate would. Again, they're just saying she's tiny. They're saying like the badge takes up her chest. LA Times cannot stop saying she's tiny. The tiny woman put the badge on her back and walked away like an antude found bread. Cartoonist nationwide drew her,

but they drew her as a big bony muscular woman because they couldn't imagine a small woman being a cop. What they seem to be unable to do is just like be like, she's a woman. They're like, she's so small. No, she's a big ogre lady. No, she's like a person. She's just a, how could she do her job?

Well, she's not gonna beat people up. She's a big knuckle dragon, weird woman. She looks like she lives in the sky. She's a troll. The Cleveland plane dealer wrote that she, quote, should be properly chaperoned. We need a cop. We need to put a cop on the beat.

We absolutely need a cop. What's she just gonna walk around on her own? It's crazy. What if someone attacks her? Exactly, what she's gonna scream? Yeah, we should have a cop who would never attack anyone. Yep, exactly. He won't hurt her.

Yep, not a lot. Safety enforcers. Yeah. Yep. She'll feel better like that. Oh yeah. It's going to all of her calls. All right, let's go.

I'll get my gun out. No, no, no, no, no, no. Why are we gonna shoot these people? They're shouting at each other. No. We should kill them. No. We will beat them with our guns.

We're gonna die. We will drown them in water. We will hurt and beat them and kill them. We're gonna defuse the situation. We will use a bomb, exactly. No. And we will light the fuse. No.

Then the defuse goes off and we blow them all up. We're gonna de- And then I'll shoot into them, smoke. We're gonna de-escalate the tension and make it so people don't attack each other. We'll go in there and I will shoot everyone with my gun. And I'll kill you if you keep talking to me, right? Is that, what am I, what is happening?

Calm, calm down. Let's settle down is what I'm saying. Settle down, you're getting a little lady-ish. No, you're- You're being a lady about it. Chill out. Why are you shaking me? I'm not shaking anything.

I wanna talk to you about the plan. Now, what I think we should do is simply burn them, burn all of them and then we can walk away. No, we don't wanna do anything. We'll go get tacos. We want everyone to go. Let's get- Everyone to go away.

Yeah, exactly. That's right, yes. No one hurting each other. No one getting hurt. They won't be able to hurt each other. No one getting hurt. They won't hurt each other. You.

You. They will be gone. You. Burn them with fire. You. We will ask them. Not hurting people. Me not hurting, right.

The gun hurting. No. Me holding the gun hurting. No. Me hurting the gun with the hand. You shoot them. And then shoot them, yes. Okay.

No. For a minute it sounded like you were pushing back. So I'm like, maybe you're not fit for this. We'll go in there. No. And I will just, this is what I'll do. I'll run in there and I'll just shoot everybody. Right.

Then we'll burn it. Let's not do that, any of that. Okay. I'll go in. You're gonna get burned and shot if you go in. I'm gonna talk to them. What about that they're gonna be killed? I don't think they should have that heads up.

I really, Alice. And then they're all gonna. Die. We're gonna talk them out of the violence and then everyone will go home. Wait a second. That's great. We'll murder them in their home.

That is so much harder to know that we did it. This whole time when I'm talking to you, I'm like, does she have rocks in her head? No. You are thinking, I do understand your purpose now. Okay. We'll wait to murder them. I was impatient.

Yeah. So I'm just gonna go ahead and give up. Well, that's not gonna necessarily say that you don't get hurt. Okay. So. The San Francisco Chronicles headline was quote, skirts among police, this may come next.

What may come next? So everyone's handed skirts. Skirts, okay. So everyone's handling it very well. Yeah, everyone's rational. The, in Richmond, the Times Dispatch reported their police chief said quote, when I was a youngster, the women used to stay at home

and mind the babies. And there was always quite a big crop of babies in those days. Miss Alice Stebbins Wells will soon get tired of twaddling with that stick of hers. And she'll run into a proposition in one of these nights that will take all the curl out of her marshal waves. So he hit a wall.

It's like he's ready to do this. I mean, I love the argument that things used to be different is like an anyway viable to anything. It's especially in this country. Well, you know what we used to do. It's like, yeah, no, we do and we're adjusting. Yeah, we're worse. We know what we used to do.

Right, we're trying not to do that. We used to, oh, when I was a boy, we owned people. Oh. It's a lot harder now. You should go back to that way for me. On her first day, she went to Galloway's office to get her badge. Now, his walls were covered in pinup girl posters.

He's the chief. He's Scottish and he's an ex railroad superintendent with zero police experience. So he just got the job. Well, you don't need training when you know trains. I'm Scottish. As he put the badge on Alice, he told her, quote, sorry to offer a woman so plain and insignia of office.

So I think he's saying it's just a star. It's not like a flashy. Oh, right, he's like brooch. Yeah, right, exactly, right. Yeah. It's not as complex as your brooches that you'd often wear, I'm assuming. Yeah, no diamonds.

But this is a badge. This is not meant to tie the outfit together. Do you understand? Yeah. Okay, thanks. I know what a badge is. You don't have a crown or a scepter. Okay, yeah, I don't want any of that.

You don't have to go out there without that lady's stuff. It was your tiara. There we are. There we are. Officer tiara's here. And then after that, he said once he had, quote, a squad of Amazons, he would ask the police commission to design a star edged with lace ruffles.

Wait, once he had this. So he said once he had a squad of really big Amazonian women, then he would ask the commission to design a star with lace ruffles. Dave, I don't like that there's a time where that shorthand was so... Like people are like, I don't know what he means.

Of course. Finally, he topped it all, quote, you wanted this job and apparently you know what you want to do. Well, go ahead and do it. So he's good. So he's not. He's not.

He's hands off. He's not a great, he's not in. He's not on board with the idea of the lady. Now if you don't mind, leave me alone. I'm going to be in my office master basic for the remainder of the afternoon. It's all on me posters. It's all on me pinups.

She was given a telephone box key, right? So the call key they used to... So if people don't know, there used to be boxes all over the place and you would go over, open it up if you were a cop. I like that you think I knew any of this. And you would call into whatever. That's how it worked.

Yeah, there were no walkies. You'd just get your cop box and you'd be like, hello, it's me. I'm an officer downtown. It's Frank. I'm over on third and third. Hurry. So she also got a book of rules and a first aid book.

No plans to give her a uniform. Okay. Other cops didn't know what to do around her. She approached her sergeant and he was in shirt sleeves, which is bad former unwoman at that time. You're not supposed to be in shirt sleeves. Oh, my Lord. He leapt up, put on a coat saying, quote,

either you'll have to get used to this or we will. Yep, that's kind of the idea sort of pretty much. Yep. That's where we're at. Yeah. I don't know how this is going to work. I guess we're going to have to change. Yeah, he's saying that in a way of like,

I mean, something's going to have to change and that just seems crazy. You know, when I was a boy, you weren't allowed to talk to me. Yeah, you were not looking the eyes, not talk. The whole thing. They are making babies in the house. Okay, well, yeah, so. The guys will sit out here with a jacket on.

Okay. Not a big thing. I really do. They'll sit here. Yeah. Do you always sound like that? No, I just, it's very, oh, I'm going to put a jacket on at the office.

It's just very weird. Yeah, well, I just think. I guess because you're here. Right, but you normally would just have on. I sure, I sure, my arms would be bare, just out. Okay, well, either way, sort of like whatever. It's not, not either way. It's one way.

I mean, you're a woman. You can't see my arms. If you see my arms, you're going to want to make babies. Ow, I mean, I saw your arms. So, I'm good. Are we? Nope. No, no, no.

Doing this. No, no, no, absolutely not. No. No, I'll be okay. I saw your arms and I'll be. Ah! I'll be around you. I don't like hearing you say it.

Saying that I saw it. Yeah! Okay. Well, I won't tell anyone that I saw them. And just so you know, even if I did see them, it's not that sort of situation for me. Burn in your brain. No.

Burn in there. It isn't. Be like if I saw you naked. I don't like that we're going there. I'm doing that in my head. Please don't tell me you're doing that and please don't do that. I do it to Jeff also.

Well, that's great. Do it to everybody. I have a weird thing. Okay, well then I guess you should do it to me. Maybe I shouldn't be a cop now that I think about it. I mean, I don't know you well, so I don't want to weigh in on that. But I guess. It's because when I was giving a speech as a kid,

my father was like picture him on naked so you don't get nervous. And I just do it all the time. Okay, great. That's great. And that's great to know. And you know that I don't do that sort of stuff. But if that's what you need to do, that's great.

And I saw, and I think you look good in the jacket. So I don't think we need to worry about anything. We're okay here. Thinking about my arms. Huh? I'm thinking about my arms right now. Okay, well, that's still, you saw them and you're. Under the jacket, they're naked.

Yeah, okay. I have to not be here. There's somewhere else I have to be. Thank you. So thank you. We finally got to the part where you're not here. I, as much as this isn't a great situation, I do feel like some progress was made.

So I feel like, I feel like screaming. Okay, well, I guess I have a different read on the moment than you do. But okay, well. Anyway, welcome to the force. Thank you. Really great to hear someone say that because it's been a while and nobody's even,

why she didn't sigh for so long just now, but there it is. Okay. All right. Take care. Oh my God, his arms. Be still. There was no office for her.

So the bailiff set her up in a spare courtroom. She would have to leave if a judge needed it. Excuse me, I'm going to have a trial now. That's the point. Pardon. It was full of shelves with files and had rats running around. So that's where they put her.

You want to go on the rat store? Why don't you go to rat court? You ever been to rat court? A lot of cheese trials. I think ladies like rat court. There you are. People just didn't know how to handle her. Once she jumped on a street car,

so they cops could ride street cars for free. Right. So she jumped on a street car and showed her police star, which was number 105, to get the usual free ride. And the conductor got furious because he didn't believe she was a cop and he yelled at her for taking her husband's badge.

Yeah, yeah. I know they're yours. There's no way. Wow. They could have not be a woman cop. I also don't read the papers. Yeah, this was just going to say. Everybody would know.

How do you not know? Well, it's just like the people now who you talk to them and they're like, what's going on with climate change? By the way, be honest. Do you envy them in some way? Oh, 100%. I was talking to someone over the weekend

who was telling me how they don't really think about it. And I was like, God, I just... Oh, just the envy. Yeah, envy. Sounds great. Total envy. It's really looking bad? Yeah, whatever.

Really? Mom. Yeah, scientists are going crazy. But Snowden Minneapolis. So he makes her get off the streetcar and after that, she went and got a new star with police woman engraved on it and number one. You took your wife's badge.

Get off of here. Yeah. On August 4th, she was outside a theater on Main Street when a 45-year-old man, Thomas Gibbons, winked at her. Okay. She walked over and asked him if he winked at her. And he said he'd like to buy her a drink and winked again. Oh, my God.

Double wink. The drink wink wink. She said, okay. And then led him several blocks to the place they were gonna have a drink, which turned out to be the Central Police Station. This place serves booze? She told the Sarchin to book them.

No bail for disturbing the peace. Wow. So she's a fucking cop, right? So now she's a cop. But doesn't she have to lay? Doesn't she have to put a beat down on in some way? Like, doesn't she have to do something like... It's not illegal to wink.

I mean, it's not. It's wrong. It's not illegal. Women aren't winking at men. It's not. But it's also like, she's like, I want some respect and I'm not getting it. So I'll make an example of this guy.

But this is the cop mentality. It is. You don't get to arrest that guy. He did a bad thing. I also, I like leading him to the drink. So he's like, well, I get to have him have a gin martini. She's like, yeah, what are you gonna have, babe? I don't know.

Maybe just, who knows, a Midori or something like that. Oh, it's great. So the guy... Maybe they'll have little snacks on the bar. We can have some Czech Spicks. So the guy is a father. He's married. And then he admitted he winked,

but he said he had a nervous condition that made his eyelashes... I have Winkle Titus. I should say, you know, he has booked and they do it all. So this is in court. Right. And he's...

He tells him he has a nervous condition that made his eyelashes twitch. I have Twitch Lash, my doctor told me it. I have what's known as worst excuseitis. Oh, a lot of guys have that. Not guilty. Not guilty. A lot of men have that.

I have that. The judge ruled Alice asking if he winked was ambiguous and let him go. I feel... He's not right. I mean, I'm just trying to find who's right. The guy clearly winked. Yeah, but...

But the judge is... I think the judge is saying like, what are you fucking doing? Yeah, I mean, for sure. What are you fucking doing? Yeah, the judge is just like, we'll wink at you. So the arrest brings her tons of attention nationwide.

The Atlanta... Holly stopped the winking. Oh yeah, I'm sure we're that guy. The Atlanta Constitution quote, when you wink at women, use a lot of caution. So that's there. That's there? Wink from a distance.

You wanna be on a wink hill? Hey, Jimmy, I'm gonna show you guys how to cautiously wink, okay? We're gonna do what's called a drive-by-winking. We're gonna drive-by-wink. Nice and cautious. That's right. So that one, I don't even know what you're doing.

You know what I like to do? This is a great one. I do the blink. Oh, yeah. So both eyes? Both eyes, but if I like her, I turn my head a little so she can't see the blink. So I'll go like...

That looks like a wink to you, right? No, it looks like you have a condition. Great, I have a condition. But legally, I'm clear. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you ever do this? Do you ever do this something in my eye?

That's another good one. The wink and then if they look pissed, you go, oh my God, there's a bug in there. You ever wink and lick your lips at the same time? Oh, the winky lick. You gotta be careful. I wouldn't do that anymore. Actually, now seeing you do it,

I probably would never do it. Not very good. No, it's a lot of... It's hard. It's hard to see. Looks like a see an enemy coming out of a dead man. Okay. That was for you.

Great. Okay, so yeah, so it's nationwide. Like people are like, this is crazy a woman arrested guy for winking me. Oregon Daily Journal quote, Mr. Gibbons winks at woman policemen. By the way, this dude's like, look, all right, I'm really, really, I don't, I'm really sorry.

I do have a wife and kid. I do, yeah. I'm like, she's really pissed. Can we keep it down? Dr. Wink, Mr. Wink, will you come out and talk to us? But after this, the department began a campaign against public flirts. Okay, see, that's what I mean a little bit.

It's like, it does speak to an issue. It is an issue, I guess, but it's not something you prosecute. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'm not, I'm not like, I don't disagree, but it's like... The hat pin was handling it all.

Well, yes, I bring them back. I'm in. Yeah. So they hire an attractive woman named Faye Evans to walk the streets and three plain-clothes cops would follow her and arrest men who flirted with her and they quickly arrested nine men. I mean, oh my God.

For flirting. Hey, baby. That's it, Jimmy. What'd I do? Yeah, flirted with that lady there. You see an attractive lady, you can flirt with her. By the way, the cops are there like, and if any of the guys flirt with you,

which again, like, how could they not? She's so pretty. But if any of them are kind of giving you the creep vibe, you know, like, give me a hand. Let me hold it. You know. If any of them are beating you. It's okay, but I just rub your, rub your head, man.

Charlie's gonna rub your hand. I'm gonna rub your hand while we talk you through what's gonna happen, okay? Yeah, so they arrest nine guys. People are not happy about it. What are you in for? I said hello to a woman. The wife of one of the arrested men found Evans

and started beating her up with an umbrella. Wow. Wow. Like a cartoon. How dare you? The department then fired Evans and killed Operation Bad Flirting. Okay.

Because people were just like, this is crazy. Yeah. I mean, men, putting men in the headspace publicly of, can I say hello to her? It's just, at this time is phenomenal. In November, Lily. Could I please have change? Not in my hand.

Put it on the counter. Don't look at me in the eyes. I know I'm irresistible. In November, Lily Maud Allen disappeared in London. Okay. Some people thought she'd been kidnapped by a cult. Okay. Three months later, Lily popped up at Ellis Island

where she was detained by immigration, but she managed to get away. Okay. Once again, she disappeared. Some dock workers said they had seen her being escorted off by surly people in blue uniforms. And they had silver lettering on their caps with the words, pillar of fire.

What do you want from me? What the fuck is going on? What? A pillar of fire hats? I introduced you to Colombo and now I've started the episode. Yeah, right. Credits.

On February 4th, 1911, now police chief, so the police chief that we had before, Galloway, the Scotch guy, he's out. It's difficult to retire. Because he had no experience. I'm fine, I don't know what I'm doing. In any way, I got in this job because I wanted an office where I could put a tract of women on,

have a wank in the office on my own. I've had a great run of 12 years and sitting in my dirty, pervy office, blinds closed. But recently, I understood that a woman was on the police force and I just made it seem so strange to spend my afternoon in there having wanks when she's there. So it's with a heavy heart that I must leave this job that has meant so much to me again.

I'm not really sure if I've done much, but good almighty, was I wanking in that office? I think you were our best police chief ever. A lot of those pin-up girls weren't even pinned to the wall. They just stick because of the level of wanking. No. Hold on, let me finish. Let me get your bloody hand off me. Your bloody hand off me, I'm finishing.

The most amount of times I had to wank in there for anyone curious was a dark day. I had 15 wanks that day. Yeah! Okay, thank you. Lost a lot of good men, potentially. This is out loud. A seaman. Should I say it on the microphone? This is a press conference. Absolutely.

So we'll open it up to questions soon. No. They will all be about wanking. Anyone got a question about wanking? All right, I'll open it up to other questions that are about the pin-ups. Does anyone have a question about how I would wank? Why I would wank? My favorite ones are wank two.

Well, I've got that one right here if you'd like to... Look, thank you for the watch. It's great. Why is everyone so bloody quiet? Yeah! Ha, ha, ha. So the new police chief, Charles Sebastian, gets a message from the Denver police chief.

And he says, Lily Allen is traveling under an alias, Ruth Allen. Very crafty. And the pillar of fire had been founded there in Denver 10 years before. And so there were connections. And the chief said, he thought Lily had gone to Los Angeles.

What is the pillar of fire? They're just... We're gonna get there. Okay. So the pillar of fire been in LA for a while. A pillar of fire was first called when it was established in Denver, the Burning Bush Movement. And it was started by a woman named Alma Birdwell White.

She's 48, she's tall, heavy, had gray hair. And she was in Denver and some Methodist ministers scolded her and told her women belonged in the home. So she decided to start her own church. Okay. And it catches on. And her followers were called Holy Jumpers. And they stomped and they convulsed.

And they'd do this while standing on street corners in uniforms. Just normal religious stuff. I'm waiting for something strange. One paper said they were, quote, opposed to dancing, drinking, smoking, theater going, divorce, card playing, novel reading, pretty clothes, Christmas trees, taxi cabs,

joy rides, hobble skirts, peach, basket hats, poodle dogs, massage parlors, chorus ladies, straight front corsets, artificial teeth, make-believe hips and busts, and highly seasoned mists. Make-believe, that's not fake, make-believe. I'm imagining I have hips. I'm a hippie lady. And highly seasoned mince pies.

Oh my God, that's a little too much seasoning. God will not like that. So they are religious. Yeah. They're religious and they basically believe in just laying down and drinking water. Yeah, they have a list of stuff you can't do and it's everything.

Okay. Sounds great. All these things are considered- But kidnapping is cool. Yes. All these things are considered the devil's work to them. Sure. Burning Bush moves to LA in 1904,

and White said they're just a Christian revival group. They just wanted to reintroduce Methodism to people. Okay. And they're very loud. Sure. They set up at 315 South Olive Street and from the building people heard shouting and shrieking and moaning and wailing.

In LA. Yeah. Wow. And a loud drum would bang the whole time. So people living nearby are like, this is fucking- Must have an audition. Because it's going on 24-7.

Right. This has to stop. Oh my God. So the cops come, but then no one wants to file a complaint. Okay. So the cops can't do anything. And they don't want-

Why is that? They're just fearless. They're scared of them. Right, okay. Soon they moved into a revival tent outside of the banking district where the noise continued, but then hundreds of locals are like,

well, what is this? It's interesting. Okay. So let me check it out. And I see people shaking and crying and banging their hands- Pretty cool. On benches until they were red

because God was possessing them. Hit the bench. God wants people to bang on benches. Everyone hit that bench now. Scream and shake. Fall down and fake a seizure. Like God wanted. Good.

Jesus came out from the tomb and said, let's hit benches. Everyone falls. Scissor like bacon. That's the religion. The LA Times wrote that white was using some sort of mass hypnosis. Sure.

And rumors start about people burning their most prized possessions in bonfires and human sacrifices. Okay. Taking another strange turn. That took a turn. That took a turn. Let's put all of our favorite things in there

and then we'll burn Joan. Okay. And then we'll light all our favorite stuff on fire and Joan will go in it. Okay. God's plan I like it I'm Joan and I want to be in the fire here we go gonna miss these books by Joan at some point why I don't know what I don't know how because this is her thing but she splits off from burning bush and starts a separate

one she's okay pillar of fire okay which she's in complete control of so I guess she started I think the first one she had like a group that helped run it right now she's like no I gotta I gotta be the one right so quote my word is final she's not God's she also said quote people are like horses no good until their spirit is broken wow by the way it's just terrible and like I do feel bad for horses to my parent break their spirit give them shoes then they're one of you she did not allow medicine or doctors only prayers okay that'll get rid of your cancer also you had to give it all up you had to give up

everything you owned to join okay that's tough quote there's only one way to join us that is to turn in all your money and live with us and people did so they're giving up their life savings where are we putting all the money but there's where is it where's the equity going it's what's known as a what a what a what where are you burning it God hole a God hole okay that we have in the back it's it's a safe okay but it's in my bedroom okay so your room has the God hole where all the stuff and yeah we just put all the money in there why all the possessions get turned in up into money we so they go in the God hole and then all the money goes

in the God hole okay which is a safe that's okay and that's just a hole where that all goes to be done it's over God it's how you're putting it near the devil though no it's all God it's how we show God that we love him you're tipping God basically give everything that we have to my say the God safe and he takes the money okay I just never know he doesn't take it it stays there oh and then you know if it needs to be used uh-huh God tells me how to use I need $30 please I'm going to bowl that's yes exactly so in 1909 so awkward could I have $25 to get some shrimp in heaven yes thank you so in 1909 white had taken a

trip to London and there Lily mod Allen went to a revival and she heard white preaching quote I knew it was the right thing for me now her father forbade her from joining but she hops on a ship and heads for America and he uses connections and told immigration if he looks she's she's 17 and she has tuberculosis so they're looking for her okay and by 1910 pillar of fire had 20,000 members and obviously shitload of money because of 20,000 members have given up their life savings yes a lot in the God hole so the police chief knew they wouldn't get any results by just demanding to see Lily he thought you know they'd have to get

someone in on the inside and he thought well Alice is perfect right undercover she can blend in she loves the idea she's like let's do this and fortunately the cult was listed in the city directory and it was hello hello yes where the cult just look at her seas for cults hello yes we put all the money in a God hole that's right all your possessions the so it turns out the headquarters are in south-central this is a five-minute walk from Alice's house so it's all it's great I'm undercover it's close to home you don't want undercover close to your home yeah she's gonna leave as her yeah I don't know

yet kids I don't these are I found them I'm gonna put them I want to sell them and then give you the money yes she went she goes to the house on a Saturday and so the house is surrounded by tons of like hedges and plants that you can't see in the property once been a farm there's still chicken coops around and a wind mill at a bird down right after they bought the land sure it's a fire mill so Alice knocks on the door and then it opens someone opens it and she can hear women chanting sure great sign I think I'm in the right spot yes this is my my place and she tells them she's looking for the truth and wanted to join she

wants to learn even more about the pillar of fire by the way is there an easier like the easiest undercover they're like that's exactly in line with what we're doing that's how we do it get in here so she's brought in and she's taken into this dark room all the windows are covered by curtains except there's one spot where a light shines in onto a chair and they tell Alice to sit right there that you like chair you go so soon the cult members who live there all come and the whole room fills up and they start singing hymns all of which have been written by white so she wrote all of her own these are very good these

are really good who put the bop in the bop she bop she bop come on everyone who put the shem in the shem and lemon ding dong let's go oh Jesus cries songs like soon I shall be bloodwashed soon I shall be bloodwashed and that'll be fun too also the cry of the soul it's the cry of the soul you put it in God's hole you money goes it fixes you is for your soul I'm going in and out can I get $20 some God's home yes God sorry Alice sang along really it's one of those are you going like some throw the waters some throw the flood some throw the fire but all through the blood a lot of blood stuff a lot of blood stuff a lot of blood

it's fine after singing they talk so who are you and she convinces them that she's ready to join right she then I don't know what exactly how much she's there like all day and night so she's at one point walking around she's going into different rooms looking for Lily Allen she can't find her well she's like a real condensed Donnie Bross it really is that all happened in one day there in the it really did yeah it all happens in one day it's crazy she was my best friend it's like it's like a TV movie right you gotta come on we gotta get through this all right come on come on she gets tired let's go by the way

there is a Japanese Colombo in in general they made a Japanese Colombo and he walks around in the Colombo outfit with messed up hair is so fucking great okay when did they make it I just saw like a little a little snippet of it I was like I have to find this and it's hugely popular like they fucking does he do the like and he's one more thing yeah yeah okay so the jumpers start to trust Alice sure I mean it's 430 it's 430 by the end of the night I think it's like midnight she talked one of them into telling her where Lily was okay wow this person's like yeah she's not allowed to tell anything you've been here

so long and we've gotten so close turns out Lily was on their 81 acre compound that was full of sad little buildings in New Jersey and that's where Lily was she was washing dishes and scrubbing floors the New York Times quote they give the impression of being places to discipline people in right it's very Scientologist yeah I mean it's exactly Scientology I worked at a studio here in it used to be a local news station okay in Silver Lake and while we were there we were doing talking dead and the Scientologist bought it so we had like we were finishing out the season but there were dudes walking around in

khakis and blue pants and you would walk by and they would just be down scrubbing a grate with a toothbrush yeah right be like oh cool man oh see yeah did you guys hear sponges so Alice after the night she leaves and she tells the chief she knows where Lily is and they got word to the New Jersey police and Lily's father so she fucking did it yeah in a day in a day the press now suddenly show her respect the Los Angeles all cops should be women that's right the Los Angeles Herald cheered for her finding a missing person quote for whom sluice of two continents had searched papers all over the country

celebrating her work the saint Joseph news press interviewer and she said her beat was around the moving picture shows cheap theaters dance halls and places where certain classes of young women are apt to spend their time so in other words after doing undercover work for this real weird church everyone's like this is the person who was undercover and they're like where are you normally yeah what are you doing where are you normally tell us about your policing now now we're interested also it's like the revealing to this cult like here she is and here's who she is yeah it's really crazy so she was in all those places to

make sure things were orderly and the girls were behaving and so this is a different that's a tough well there's a different spin on what we've been told right quote the very young and the beginners I make every effort to influence away from the resorts so I think by resort she means the places uh-huh right this right she also said she went into the dressing rooms of women at lesser theaters and tried to gain their confidence then talk them into following a better life so she's a morality cop right and and she's and she is elevating it a little bit now that she's got like you know she's got

somewhere that will listen to her well this explains why all of the pastors and women's places were on board with her right this is about policing yeah morality right like you shouldn't be doing that right that's what she's doing right right she's a Christian cop she's a Christian cop so it really it really sounds like she spent a lot of her time keeping girls away from possibly getting sacks or getting touched but imagine being like changing hey hey sorry girl you know what the fuck yeah we don't do you like God sorry what do you want to do outside how do you want to handle it you're under arrest if you don't like

God quote young girls are swept down by this maelstrom of inequity which is set before them in a form of riotous pleasure yes so fun she's the fun police she's literally she's the fucking she's the first lady cop in LA and she's the fun police damn it just let him get fingered Jesus all right Dave that's not the slogan of the show she said the work was dignified and part of applied Christianity and in the spirit of a larger mother it's so open it's so open that's all she's did that's why they all were like yeah let's have her they they weren't thinking anything other than this right that's the message right she's

been under cover the whole time she also made sure no minors were admitted to picture shows without being accompanied by a parent or legal guardian I think fuck you I mean I saw it was I guess the first one was Saturday Night Fever I got into a loan alone North Dallas 40 my dad would be like yeah anything I wanted to see my dad be like okay yeah then like halfway through be like there's a lot of sex in here man shut up all man but you remember that feeling when he used to cut him up a movie with you like your parents like I think I maybe have mentioned on this when my mother read to the crying game and you know what it was

yeah there's this scene like I also watched Carol with my mother and there's just like you know really like like pretty strong sex like any sex scene you're like so um did you did you say that you had you got more evaporated milk okay yeah great great great she also made sure any objection old pictures were cut out of the movies so she's policing she's like the fighting yeah she's getting shit removed unfortunately Lily's father had been lying hmm so Lily it turns out was not 17 she was 26 and she did not have tuberculosis so they couldn't remove her likes PB and J they couldn't remove her from the cult

because she's an adult right two years later she was seen in Washington DC as a pillar of faith missionary where she supported white's announcement of the second coming of Jesus well so she was fully in yeah she would get right that November she's allowed to be yes yeah so that November chief Sebastian requested additional police women because it was going so well okay probably the highest compliment he could give Alice the police commission approved it and by the end of 1912 the LAPD had now four women cops all together and are they all is doing the same shit it's the same enforcement yeah it's just

Christian Christianity run amok we just can't have nice thing no like the best thing is to go have a little fucking sex when you're that eight like let the kids go out and explore their fucking bodies we've been trying to in this country I mean we've been trying to stop people just pursuing like human pleasure oh that's all we do that's all we do yeah yeah so Sebastian also told other departments across the country to hire women so now this spreads quote the natural protection instinct of women makes her advent in the field but natural so they're literally yeah it leads to cops all over the cut female

cops all of the country to do this they're Christian cops in 1913 Sebastian went to DC to the chief of police convention and made a strong case for them to hire women he said crime was down and police women made more arrests and policemen Alice also hit the road for seven months starting in September 1912 she gave 136 lectures in support of hiring police women the reaction of the press and local leaders was mostly positive and the only reason that happens is because it's a Christian right right if it's just her being a cop then no no no your brain can't handle it pretty soon the replacement in Seattle

Baltimore Fargo North Forks Rochester and 20 other cities and in LA they even raised the women's pay to be equal to men's wow I mean it's hard to root right it really is I mean cheer it really is well I didn't want to do the story for so long because it's about a cop after lobbying by Alice the LAPD created a policy that women could only be questioned by female police officers okay well that's good yeah that's a good thing right there yeah I'm so then what is she doing with it right yeah on the other side right with it a few more years Los Angeles made pay for policemen and police women uniforms sending Alice

home every month with the same 120 dollars as her male peers Alice started wearing a police uniform her and the chief designed it it was khaki like the rest of the department in the summer summer clothes for cops sure khakis LAPD was written on her collar and a military trim coat with a long pleated skirt wow Alice became the department's official historian in 1934 and set up a LA cop museum in Highland Park which I've been to oh really yeah I think I their history well we filmed we filmed something for Marin there but they have like the from the Hollywood shootout they have like the car wow stuff she was

with the LAPD until she retired in 1940 Alice Wells died in 1957 her funeral had a 10 woman on her guard and then white yeah that's still going the pillars of fire is still around and she wrote the hymns it's how can you I don't know I don't understand about Scientology it's like I mean you give religion some distance and time okay maybe you can like yeah it was a long time ago things were different back then men were parting seas back then but like there's nothing like a religion conceived in the 40s you're like that me it's so weird sure we live in space really it's um there yeah they're still around and they

distance themselves from her at the beginning a little bit sure now but they're you know there they are doing their thing good well I'm glad they're still that that's you know you you're kind of looking for like that the good like the nice moral ending of this and they're still around yeah they're called pillar of fire international it's a Methodist Christians nomination they saw their headquarters in that place in Jersey so yeah and then did this sort of just kind of eventually just morph into allowing women to be police officers I mean basically it's yeah and you know I you could make the argument that the

only way they could get on the force was by being Christians and yeah yeah for sure but yeah it's just all yeah I mean you know it's like it's it is I mean to some extent it like speaks to the problem we find today which is that you know if you just send cops to every situation it seems like they escalate you know like so so this is sort of speaking to like no let's you know how do you find a diffuser but again it's the American version of the diffuser so of course it's just like and the diffuser will fill their head with Christianity thank you like you know yeah that's why we can't have nice things

that's why we can't have nice things oh she she actually white she like started after this she said you know getting involved with the Clucas clan and she like like she's white yeah she went terrible on episode sure sure sure it's so funny whenever I get in it cause I started doing this and I was like I was like and this is exactly what happens now I was I was doing this episode I'm recent and then I get to this part you like the cult and I'm like god damn it's gonna go in a child molestation because that's what they always do but then a woman's running it was like oh great no child molestation literally every cult

run by a dude is about molesting kids but if there's a woman running it it's an interesting story amazing yeah it doesn't seem like most cults are there to sexually satisfy the person who talks to God in some way yes nobody fucks but me God just told me and this one was just about power for her right so finally a refreshing yay sources a cool site that I found truly adventure dot US they do they just do stories like this yeah Britannica Encyclopedia Britannica yeah girl and America comes alive and then a bunch of papers the Times Honolulu advertiser and Buffalo Evening News etc yeah that's it that's Alice Wells first

cop first lady cop in LA here we go we did it finally finally everybody is a hero yep all winners that's right