The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 514 - Colin Powell

Episode Date: January 4, 2022

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the life of American hero Colin Powell. Tour Dates Sources James Fosdike Dollop Merch

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falcon in the snowman is the first we've done we just recorded a small up we've got some other cool stuff will be doing so if you want to join patreon you can do that shit april fifth nineteen thirty seven you have our lord jesus christ i would i prefer to call him jim caviesl arie mccoy and luther powell had a baby boy

and it's actually let her they had a baby colin okay colon he said i believe that's how he pronounces it one of the one of the and and a life riddled with oddities the colon pal spelling a colon will always well he he was adamant that you you uh... american sick colin and he was adamant that did not be said that way

who would fight to be called colon i do not know it's pronounced a nis he's get it right asshole it's pronounced us all out he said it was the british way of saying it but i don't know whatever uh... look so it's not colin it's not which is where uh... what what what if someone if

your name is named after like the intestines are anus and people pronounce it wrong and you get to get away with it i would go in that direction you wouldn't hear me correcting people a lot of saying call you as someone who's name has been bastardized and ravaged by a psychotic i don't think that's true it is true you change you've ruined it go to my twitter dickhead

uh... so uh... the pals were jamaican immigrants who arrived in the u.s. in the early twenties uh... back then illiteracy wait wait sorry this is about this is a little bit yeah a baby boy was born his name is colon pal uh... my god i did not i was randomly talking about that correction that's

why we brought him up is because that was his name the baby's name that looks very upset right now i was like uh... man you really chum the waters with some light comedy for this time uh... uh... yeah so uh... jamaican immigrants who arrived in the u.s. in the twenties uh... back then you had to take a literacy test that congress to come up

with uh... and that's it was mostly from the bible so it's just a phenomenal i know worst and by the way how about let's do some littering tests littering tests around the people who are here too if we're gonna do it well well let's all take some tests i'm not saying all these things why would you want to test the dumbest people on the earth just to so that you

could be like this is not good uh... so you're teaching critical grammar theory so along with uh... our sister alice they lived in harlem amidst uh... other jamaican immigrants and uh... they felt their lives are just as much jamaican is new york like it was a nice little you know mix are you was a buster after but after the birth of uh...

you look confused well but the first a bustler what do you mean what's a bustler but that's what i mean it's a it's a you know a bustle is i know what but yeah i know a bustle is but i've never heard of a bustler you go out and you and your fucking bustler your ass yeah i see you don't even know what it is you're looking on your phone aren't you jerky

i i tell you forgot a bustler is uh... that can't be right they see you that's why my face look crazy i'm a hustler on the weekends it says hustler one the bus it's a hustler okay sure told you you did it

you knew nothing and you were vamping to act smart so she just must have just gotten a bunch of different jobs and she's a hot yeah she could and david's called the gig economy that's right so uh... after the birth of their first child maryland nineteen thirty one she stayed home uh... luther worked in the stock room of a suit manufacturer remember the days when you could have a guy that just worked in the stock room

of a suit manufacturer mm-hmm which is his job when things are done in the stock room in nineteen thirty seven uh... when uh... call on arrived they decided to name him the name luther had seen on a shipping label earlier that morning well i'll but man it i'll bet he will he wishes that that he had not seen that

uh... hot colon colon i want to calm column but it's colon yeah it's called he was i think they called him calling but he peace i think he switched to colon on his own who does that switch uh... so yeah so

you know that's how you pick a baby's name you see it on a package and this is and go say hi to your uncle intestines i forgot that you were going to mark and that's how all the babies got named yeah yeah it's just pieces this is your uncle park kidney there you go rectum you son of a bitch get over here i haven't seen you in a dog's age while you're filthy

uh... by lord uh... so how are you and come over here guy why is it why is why is this family just named after the ass parts of the body david this show is history and comedy and you're simply not going to glean a lot from the heart where the kidney

i think it's a little little baby tongue would have been pretty good that's good see you're working i like that yeah tongues great yeah grandpa lobe i assume yeah grandpa lobe is good hello there's little jimmy nostrils and i'm jimmy that's right yeah fuck

so uh... so they moved to the Bronx uh... which was considered like a step up from Harlem and uh... are his uncle moved into an apartment down the street and her other sister larice bought a home nearby so that he had a bunch of family around them sure uh... there's a lot of Jamaicans as a lot of years a lot of italians in the neighborhood

uh... so he worked at sixers which was a jewish owned store okay uh... while he was there he picked up a little bit of yiddish sure oh colon loves yiddish uh... colon later say of the owner quote i was so touched that he thought enough of me to tell me that i had the potential to do other things in life

isn't that amazing sometimes gonna call bullshit on things that's a bullshit thing even if it's bullshit imagine a time when bosses were like nurturers yeah you can't you can't you can do a lot better than this oh colon you're better than here instead of like this and listen

you want to get out of this shit hole yeah yeah my store fucking garbage dump we look at the signs they hang up now in like places it's like if your leg falls off get here faster that's the spirit yes so yes so he

it later on he would he would and above uh... jewish reporters said uh... interview many started talking to get it should reporters like they would what what i bet you there's a lot of countries that wish that that guy had never said that and that's to that stock room boy yeah yeah hundred percent

so colon would later uh... so i do that uh... so he's an average student uh... after high school he went to the city college in new york and studied geography which isn't that it's a total bullshit major i mean you do geography when you don't want to do other stuff like it's like i don't like science but uh... don't yeah you don't have to get it most other it's sciency but you don't have to get uh... uh... bachelor of science you get a bachelor of arts

okay as someone who got a bf a in theater that's a kind of bullshitty degree uh... so colon also joined the r o t c where he excelled so he finally after all the class and in that learning stuff he found something he did well that's march around and

right headquarters so uh... colon was uh... a colon on the r o t c quote i found something that i liked and that was r o t c reserve officer training corps in the military and i not only like it but i was pretty good at it that's what you really have to look for in life something that you like something that you think you're pretty good at and if you can put those two things together you're on the right track and it's just drive on it is a shame that it is over that i mean because it's like

you know his beginnings is like a i mean any is like uh... it's just a shame it's a shame it's just you wish what if what if you know what if someone was just like it what if someone had handed him like something where it was like the direction was maybe a little more uh... good not terrible so yes so he's excited obviously you know he he when he looks at this time in his life he's like other people should find this

when they if they can find something as much as i love the r o t c that's amazing that it's like a bomb religion oh man so he graduates in nineteen fifty eight uh... he was the second lieutenant in the army and was assigned to us germany he was a platoon officer on nineteen sixty when he goes on a double date to help out a friend his friends like look i want to go out this girl we go out with her friend

times are so different that's a little blind date it's never met her and he's immediately taken quote she was fair skinned with light brown hair and a lovely figure i was mesmerized by a pair of luminous eyes at an unusual shade of green miss johnson move gracefully and spoke gracefully with a soft southern accent she told me of how they why the water fountains were labeled differently

so they were married the next year they felt they felt hard for each other four months later though he he's now a captain and he's assigned to uh... go to vietnam to advise south vietnamese soldiers and we're talking like what year this is sixty uh... christ the end of and uh... no sixty two december sixty oh my god so so so it's that you know kennedy's just sending people there to advise and you know it's building up it's right right but kennedy is pretty

kennedy does not want to send like as much i don't know he started it you know i mean it's not i'm worried we can't give a pass on that he started putting no i'm asking i'm not sure i just want to know he did he's you know lbj cranked it up but he kennedy did plan he did it till the soil

uh... so he his first kid is born while he's in vietnam now that's fun uh... colon advise his infantry to quote march into hell if necessary to accomplish accomplish the mission the mission again freedom stop

uh... stop the communism communism from it comes like a it's like a sausage is leaks yeah goes down and we got bomb red and we got bomb red so you know yet he has things to move on they're out there

doing shit and call recalled seeing his first dead vietcong i felt nothing certainly not sympathy i had seen too much death and suffering on our side to care anything about what happened at their's so he's where's he seen all the death and suffering on our while there is our you know he's in a war oh he's right okay right you know that's what he means

i mean look when we send advisors it's not like they walk around with uh... uh... you know booklets telling people to do their fucking get in the action uh... uh... so this type of coldness is what he passed on to the four hundred men that he was advising mm-hmm

good which is nice so um... they didn't encounter many vietcong but they were quick to destroy civilian lives as they would march systematically they would burn down homes and destroy food of villages they started fires with uh... ronson and zippo lighters from consortium news quote old women would cry hysterically as their ancestral homes

and worldly possessions were consumed by fire do you want to just hold up like a sign when it's time for jokes again is that this is the funny part oh okay uh... you know you yeah i mean it's okay yeah yeah uh... very funny just an old woman crying because the place she's lived in

forever is now being burned to the ground because she happened to be in their comedic angle as well the other guys have a different political idea so we should probably burn down this old lady's house just yeah i guess i'll i'll work on some stuff you keep you keep going with your part yeah yeah colon quote sorry colon quote why were we torching houses and destroying cop

crops ho Chi Minh said ho Chi Minh had said the people were like the sea in which his gorillas swam we tried to solve the problem by making the whole sea uninhabitable in the heart of the war what difference did it make if you shot your enemy or starved into death well uh... colon the differences is that your harming civilians god

uh... i mean he was just where did this come from he what this i mean was he well it's well it's it uh... it seemed like you know it was like yeah alright a better girl things are good had a nice upbringing yeah i think if you i i would

i would argue if you if you go to something like the rotc when you're in college and you love it that much there's something very authoritarian about you and you're inclined to this yes right uh... i could be wrong this could be some people in the rotc are very individualistic and love hey man uh... maybe we should just like take a minute man why don't we try like

talking to him dude in nineteen sixty three colon colon step on poongi stick so he's sorry what he what a poongi stick so it's uh... it's a booby trapped thing of stakes made out of bamboo okay and he and he what did he do it

oh he stepped on it okay okay it's like it's like a bamboo landmine i guess is how think of it okay it's a bamboo it's a bamboo so the vietnam would put him where they thought uh... the troops would walk through and turn off you know they did so his and his foot becomes infected and swollen uh... he could hardly walk

so that's it for his tour of vietnam oh wow it goes back home uh... he's there for a while uh... march sixteenth nineteen sixty eight a group of american soldiers head into the village of my life led by the tenant william kelly they were searching for vietcong they found no vietcong instead it was just a quiet village mostly women children older men and they're making their breakfast rice

when the american show up and the troops go through the huts they don't find anything they find like three guns uh... even to the surprise of some of the soldiers cali ordered them to begin executing the villagers at first some of the soldiers like i don't want to do that but as everyone started shooting they all just joined it it's one of the bros brutal brutal maskers

most well-known brutal maskers of armed civilians during the vietnam war and maybe you know american history soldiers killed most of the people in the village women children people try to run a gun down mother should be in the children were shot the children watch the parents uh... being executed before they were killed uh... there were rapes mutilations it's the fucking

just a nightmare hot set on fire the entire village burned down five hundred people murdered soon after this colon pal returns to vietnam and in a number nineteen sixty eight a major in the army named colon pal

receives a letter from army specialist tom glenn who's toward recently ended he described the crimes that had happened at my life and throughout the war he went on quote fired with an emotionless that belies unconscionable hatred and armed with a vocabulary consisting of uvc soldiers commonly interrogate by means of torture that has been presented as a particular habit of the enemy

severe beatings in torture at night point are usual means of questioning captives of convincing a suspect that he's indeed a vietnam what has been outlined here i have seen not only on my own but also in others we have worked with and i fear it's universal if this is the case is a problem which cannot be overlooked but can through a more firm implementation of codes of the military system command vietnam and the geneva conventions perhaps be eradicated

now so he basically he right he basically writes a confession letter yeah he writes a confession letter and it's also well it's a whistleblower letter a plea like can we be slightly human here right now the guy whose job it is is to receive this sort of information and then reported up is a guy named

colon pal and i'm guessing he did what he does is help to cover it up tell them why it's so what's so fucking this is what's so fucking weird is that and i guess it's just like growing up in the time i did and getting information in the way that i did

but it was always like he was he was just fray he seemed like a different person he really did well yeah we'll get to why yeah that that is a that is a media construction by the way calling it my lie and then further lying is also a little shit i hope i'm not saying it wrong i always thought it was my life i think it is

maybe it's not i don't know i don't want to be something else what i know i think you're right but i don't know but either way the fact that it's lie yeah uh... so he helps he decides to help cover this up quote there may be isolated cases of mistreatment of civilians and p o w's

this is by no mean reflects this by no mean reflects the general attitude throughout the division and again one of his responsibilities is to monitor reports from the war and he had noticed the unit that committed the the massacre had an unusually number of casualties that month but he doesn't think much of these are just look how could that be related

the army's official story about my life was that they had killed a hundred and twenty eight vc and captured three weapons so that's what call it that's what colonists are telling people even though he has this letter and he's seeing the troop reports how many people are actually killed five hundred not one of them vc uh... so he parents this lie

in reality no vc or kill uh... colon had tons of opportunities tell the truth but he kept with the army's lie they did his part to cover up what are just fucking horrific war crimes but this is the last time he lies yeah in nineteen seventy one

he testified at the trial of a general who would order the shooting of unarmed civilians from helicopters and he testified on the general's behalf and said it was a reasonable response given the nature of war so that is so uh... that that that being i mean that is a law are that covers quite a spectrum of things you can do

yeah he's basically i don't know if you're at war you can do anything to start kicking you in the balls and saying because of war and shooting from a helical like it is just so i i it uh... as it and this is like where we are now you're so far removed from what the it's not even to call it fair but it's just like the dominant like it's just it's not a war i mean it's not a fight it is just a i mean if you're just

fucking plowing people down from a helicopter that's that's not that's like i that's how i feel about like hunting where i'm like that's not i don't feel okay i feel like even if you're into war you should be like that's fucked up even if you're into hunting you should be like that's shitty so you know uh...

he says the reason response uh... upon returning from vietnam in nineteen seventy one he goes back to school and here's an mba from george washington university and then gets a white house fellowship in nineteen seventy two in nineteen seventy three for richard nixon now that's not unrelated to what he did about the my life massacre so they're very so so there is i mean there's part of it right obviously there

he learns that like you know part of your path is being a good corporate guy and you know he's a yes man company yeah right they'll say whatever the company wants uh... so they became close with future indicted iran contra co-conspirator casper whine burger in nineteen seventy three nixon along with general augusto pinot shea let a military coup in chile to oust socialist president alvador

ayende and it was the first marxist elected president in latin america so it's just for their communist stuff where it's just like this guy's a communist yeah they took out ayende uh... who's totally democratically elected to do so he wanted to nationalize industries expand education and empower the working class

uh... disgusting disgusting someone help them the u.s could allow this particularly because he wants to nationalize u.s own minds uh... chili was a bastion of democracy until the coup democratically

democratically elected ayende killed himself when uh... pinot shea and three of the generals attacked uh... the capital colon downplayed it colon downplayed the whole thing writing it off as a year's response to the fear and danger of communism around the world pinot shea would go on to rule brutally killing and torturing thousands of political opponents

uh... uh... in nineteen seventy five uh... seventy six colon attended the national war college which is a real place what's the national war college it it has the national defense university in washington dc he went there to study war

what the fuck it's a war college we study war at least we come up with like names that cover the tracks better now i mean that's not gonna just crank out a bunch of cycle pass it off i'm going to school for war that's good that seems like a good thing for humanity to have and do and now i would like to just point out how much of a supreme bullshitter

colon palace because he says he went there to study war did they have any sports teams yet the murderers i play basketball for the war school stab the other team stab them kill the cut we poison the coach bayonets it's baseball boys the coaches but the coach of coach one half but then it'll be over

we're gonna do a half-time coup on the coach alright guys here's your new coach hello everybody uh... the new idea for how to play basketball is for you guys to give them the ball all right you're gonna pass you know probably a little curious where the other coaches he's not uh... gonna be coming back but he's fine but he's done

and we're gonna change i'm gonna give me that whiteboard here let me scratch off a lot of that the name of the game is make sure the other team the war you gotta make sure the war's team wins and um... stop saying what dipshit what doesn't you gotta make sure the other team wins okay

that's the point of this so give them the ball a bunch turn it over a bunch what let's do this let me drop a play called the forfeit have you guys ever seen this it's like the triangle offense but it's a four so you get four of you here and then you give up

round here and then this guy right here the point guard he'll go tell the ref we're done and then the war school wins how does that sound for everybody i don't like it better sound good okay it better be okay you have a knife yeah it's good all right great all right guys go out there go forfeit

i love these kids i love these kids dig deep guys go tell them we're done yeah so i'm a democratically elected coach this is what he said this is why i say colin is a supreme bullshitter quote i came to study war and while i learned about war

i learned even more about the importance of finding peace no no that's not true you don't get to say that now not after that other shit i mean the you know the the very concept of war through peace had a good run but i mean good lord we have now completely proven and squandered that

concept that concept is so dead now like when you talk about like world war two you're like okay this was a this was a war this was a this was a war to stop an actual thing and then it's you know since then it's just like there's no there's no that word that word didn't end wars it just created other wars in the cold well it just created the appetite for like economic war money

i love war money uh it's the tastiest tastiest books yeah so he's he's foolish it so uh like a colon he he speaks very fondly of his time at the war college quote it was at the war college that i realized that there was a bigger world out there than an infantry battalion or the brigade that i was about to get there was a bigger world out there that i had to prepare prepare myself for

if i was going to keep making a contribution to the army and to national defense he a hundred percent had a go to the window moment he's uh he realizes oh this is just a guy who wants to climb the ladder that's all that's fucking happening here he just wants to get to the top of the ladder a whole new war that's right something for me colon to adore a whole new war something that we did but better than

before a whole new war something that i'm fighting for colon yeah huh hey hey um okay so what seems to be so he learned just more uh to war he learned how politics work quote i had to learn the classic studies before that went before i worked hard at it so reagan wins in in 1980 and uh colon's colleagues are all over the defense department now it's his co-leagues colon leagues he's a colonel uh he spent time in south korea okay uh he's working on another one you're

right i know yeah sorry it's okay do you want to do it he's a colonel okay he had uh commands in kansas in colorado and then he's in dc in a sorry i hate to keep doing it colorado he's in dc in 83 where he becomes casper Weinberger's military assistant okay so he's deep in man he's fucking he's on the track yeah uh and he's so in uh that between 1984 and 1985 colon was at the center of the iran contras scandal

as the u.s illegally ship weapons to iran uh and to the contras in nicaragua that's great i didn't incident yeah it's almost like uh his entire history has been completely whitewashed i just am like it's later like name name the worst show it he's showing up in a lot of spots what's that z league he's like the he's like the guy that shows up at all the worst things in american history yeah right yeah yes yes he's the he's he's he's warrist gump

uh so he denied that he was in the loop and in the way but feels feels like that was the general uh vibe of i didn't know i wasn't there none of us were how would i know i don't how would i know that i believe it it seems like some people who also didn't know we're doing some things they didn't know that i never knew about i don't i'm not the guy my lord guy is oh gosh i thought they meant like appendages arms turns out they meant weapons i thought we were trading a bunch of you

know weird limbs i mean word the white house all we know about is uh arms and legs and stuff we don't know about the other if you expect the president to know about things of this nature you just overestimate the office so look if he hadn't if he hadn't been in his position the iran contra scandal wouldn't have happened that's how important he was so there had in the past been a covert operation scandal named yellow fruit and then after that the pentagon

put a system in place to monitor weapons inventory so that people couldn't secretly get weapons the system smart the system is supposed to set off an alert if something like that is going down for instance if weapons are going to iran yeah if weapons are missing but colin pal was able to keep the weapons out of the inventory so no alarms were set off one pentagon one pentagon advisor had warned colon quote there was no lawful way to transfer the weapons without notifying

congress but colon figured out a way to justify it column lamps he said it was okay because reagan had made a secret order so literally with all the shit that happened in iran i kind of agree with him i'm sorry i don't mean to cut you off but i kind of get his angle seems true because the rule is yeah fuck he was the fucking he was the stopgap he was the safety valve which is supposed to stop it right and he yeah so he again now this is the second time remember he got the fucking letter from about the my

life massacre and now he's done this so already we have a terribly evil person i mean there's no i like to think of it like we have a company man sort of like too early i think we have it's what i would call a team player someone who gets it colon would later say quote the scheme was still fool hardly but now illegality in what came to be known as the iran contra fair grew out of other elements so he's saying that the stuff that was illegal was not what he did it was other stuff that happened so the selling of of weapons to iran wasn't illegal

right it was it was using the funds to pay the contras and lying about it that was the problem he also said the weapons that isn't that i mean really that is just like the guy was like i never put the money in the bag i mean yeah it was in the bank but i didn't rob it i didn't rob it chuck chuck robbed it it is just finding the smallest little fucking just the slightest crack to squeeze through yeah well it's it is it's like it it's just it is like look i don't care what's around you cover that ass it's it's the same thing as it

it depends on what you mean by the definition totally totally depends on what the definition it is is all right well it's um how do i put this it's is it's is as in the word is that we all agreed on it's is i'm still very confused this road scholar don't understand the question you know is is used in many different formats i think you're getting hung up on what it is means now the question isn't is what is jizz when you say jizz what do you mean it depends on where your definition of jizz is and then your definition is when it

comes to that jizz and if that jizz is the jizz you're isn't about can we take a five minute break i don't know yeah let's take an hour i'm parched i'm so we're all we're all very parched and upset we're all very confused as to what some of us need a shower what does is mean i would love to get to the bottom of that nobody wants i've opened up a council to dig deep and figure out what the hell this is me i i don't like it when you say we still are unable to figure out what it what is is um i won't know as much as every american

what is the word is okay just stop what we're gonna i so i well if you want to stop then you want to stop but i i want to oj is gonna look for the original killer i want to find what the fuck is is where is it so many winning figures um he also he also said that since the weapons were sold to the cia who gave them to my ran that it was kosher so he just said all these fucking no no no i gave

i gave any the heroin to give to david so i didn't do nothing uh he would later run interference for regan deflecting blame away from the president colon also spent the regan years ramping up his cold war rhetoric and pushing for more military spending against what was a declining soviet union yes but david a lot of times i find the declining empires to be the scariest mm-hmm now all of this great work he's done culminates in 1989 culminates sorry i'll stop when he earns his four star as a

general under president george hw bush best president of my lifetime and then in august of that year he became the first black chairman of the joint chiefs of staff what an achievement i mean the diversity when you have the diversity like this where you have a finally a black man can kill all the other non-white people in other countries it is uh it's it's wonderful one of the harder things to be living through in this country currently is the

that stuff that you just alluded to yeah where you're just like look i don't really honestly care what anyone looks like these are not um honorable moments now much as it's just like you're trying to repackage the same shit in a way that convinces us that progress is being you know yeah the fbi or ci i can't remember who it was but some of the diversity videos they were putting out about a year ago were unbelievable unbelievable awesome like a deaf guy who was like i make missiles

and i'm deaf and it was like wait sorry what the what was the first part again can we actually backtrack real quick there's a beginning part yeah so you know now he's uh now he's a big wig and um now at this time bush had decided to take out his ex-drug running uh guy Manuel Noriega of Panama the so when bush was in the CIA the CIA worked with uh Noriega so you know they were buds in so now he's got to get rid of him right right because he's too out of control so in mid-December four u.s officers four u.s officers ran a roadblock

of panamanian defense forces in Panama and the pdf forces open fire uh an american was killed another was held prisoner now i was around for this and watching it very closely it really seemed like a bullshit setup um i never bought it a lot of americans did sorry you mean okay so you think pre or orchestrated well they they ran they ran the roadblock on purpose like they right yeah there was a whole thing um i i just there's no way based on our history that this was as black and white as they called it

i mean absolutely no fucking way it's america right um it's a hell of a thing to just be able to say and for be like that's fair because america right okay right right bush goes off on this i mean he's just that that's the last straw so on december 20th 1989 under colon pal's recommendation the us invaded panama in order to capture general manuel noriega and destroy the panamanian defense force hundreds two thousands of civilians were killed in the attack we don't know because they just

obliterated to get us sorry sorry sorry hundreds two thousands right okay because uh we're killed in the attack we don't know how many because they just obliterated these two ghettos um the true body counts just never going to be known yeah that's part of that's part of that we're not very good at those numbers yeah whoops 350 panamanian soldiers 23 american soldiers uh is the official number noriega disappeared for a bit at home colon plowd he declares victory uh after it's all over the un general

assembly declare the invasion illegal so again it's a it's an illegal invasion it's those are war crimes again colin's in like a bad spot in retrospect it probably would have been a good decision to actually follow through on prosecution of war crimes because it feels like uh sort of eventually just got a little uh kind of became the norm had you had you prosecuted him for any of the stuff that he had done he he is the key to the iraq war

so if you if you took him out at any of these illegal things right he's not doing that i mean yes if you let these people do this shit they will then do something worse yes hands down in 1990 to 91 uh colin was the top general in bush's persian gulf war bush wanted uh to be seen he wanted because he was a wimp he wanted to weaken stamosan's army right and but wasn't it was a huge i mean the behind the initial invasion a lot of that was just that george bush was seen as a wimp right

oh yes like it was for oil and the fact that he was a he was viewed as like a fucking pussy yeah yeah this the everybody call i mean there would have been memes of wimp wimp wimp now it was you know dunesbury common wimp all the media calling a wimp like yeah he these two not so wimpy now am i yeah a hundred percent yeah i mean mr burnsy you call the ex head of the cia wimp he's gonna just start fucking killing people in other countries right i mean honestly when you put it like that it's like what were you doing

call him a tough guy please so bush wants to weaken sedam who is an ex-alloy and also they want to erase the scar of vietnam they want people to like war again it's a big part of the persian gulf war he wants to make it palatable for the american public it could have all been avoided with a withdrawal agreement which sedam apparently was looking for um and call to his credit colin pal didn't want to actually continue the ground war and bush did but one of the main reasons given for the war was fake satellite photos were

used to show a military buildup on the border did did colon pal know did the head of the military know that we were using fake satellite photos do you think that could be a thing no uh colon quote it is important to plant the american flag in the saudi desert as soon as possible he'd write that in his memoir and he'd say that he was reasonably sure iraq wouldn't invade saudi arabia so in his memoir he says he admits it's bullshit

he says it's bullshit fuck and i mean i that is crazy it's just what's crazy is just to never actually want to reconcile that as a country to never have like the you know the push to be like holy fuck that's crazy and then we're like oh he's a pretty good book and look those troops that he wanted in saudi arabia so bad osama bin laden used those troops being in saudi arabia as his number one recruiting tool oh yeah right right yeah uh so there

was a media this was the first media blackout so one way that we make a more more palatable we learn in vietnam is don't show stuff so the first 48 hours of the ground war there is no we're seeing we see nothing all there was was video video game like clips of bombings right and a shit load of coal and pal at a podium explaining things so it's almost like it's almost like he's hosting the academy awards right he is he is hosting the war yeah he's hosting the war

so that's all people are looking at the american prospect boy we really should start doing it like that welcome to america's 55th war tonight we will invade yeah in memoriam yeah granada il salvator guatemala this is a long list we've got going on here um yeah so he it's just all eyes on him the american prospect quote and many reporters treated powell like he was the story marveling at his career speculating about whether he had ike like political aspirations in the weeks

before and as the ground combat took place so they are just i mean where what what do you what do you blame more do you blame the evil that has always just kind of been in the marrow of the bones of this country or do you blame the inability to sustain journalistic integrity and have the media actually just hold feet to the fire i guess it's a heart it's that one that that's what i always feel i feel like it's this failure of journalism and

failure of us to hate fake journalists um they know it's the journalist fall i look you're always going to have evil people trying to do evil things right the media's job is to call them out right and help you process proper information and and acknowledge reality to to really hold a mirror up i mean basically the job is to show us what is actually taking place uh calling light he just flat out lied about a bombing that happened quote there was a story earlier today

about the infant formula factory it is not an infant formula factory anymore than the raptor chemical plant he could have just stopped it anymore any more than the raptor chemical plant in libya made aspirin it was a biological weapons facility of that we are sure and we have taken it out cn reporter peter arnett then went there and it was a baby formula factory so right there that was a time when cnn would actually be like let's see if this is true yes it's remarkable yeah um you know uh well the next war we would shoot at the

i know there might have been this war but yeah it was this war i think where peter arnett was like shot at in the bi-american troops in the bag that hotel whatever what yeah to scare the journalists they started like oh we're just gonna bomb the hotel you're in like it's just all fucking crazy well i guess i get why they comply a little bit okay what do you want us to say okay sure that that works too we didn't know what you were trying to tell us so look he's just lied about this uh baby formula factory that we bombed

but what are calmness calmness doing well they're wondering if uh colon would be bush's vp for the 92 campaign they're like maybe you can get rid of quail and have this guy's is vp look at him he's fucking awesome when the attack is over as just thousands iraqi's lay dead pal is a american hero colon used his newfound level of fame and popularity to help get a pardon for his friend casper weinberger weinberger had worked alongside pal in the arian contra scandal and colon tonight all knowledge of the

affair and everybody believed him weinberger was set however to take the heat pal testified on his behalf weinberger ended up not facing trial and then bush pardoned so colon is politically ambiguous cola he colon sorry colon is politically ambiguous and because he's a general he's popular with democrats and republicans they both think he's their guy right in 1992 in 1992 he was suggested to be a vp pick on both the republican and democratic tickets

we are just we are us weekly the military i mean what in god's name it's just like it's not like there's not interesting shit to talk about there's fucking crazy shit going on he's probably at times thinks he's gonna get hit with hard questions it's like colon is there any way you'll ever be single i mean we're just all hearing stuff about your wife and maybe that there's something uh there's a lot of what about these rumors about you and col kidman like just the dumbest

well he his wife didn't want him we found out later his wife didn't want him to run for anything um in nineteen from his except from his past and so yeah in 1995 uh colon just declared himself a republican and campaign for republican candidates okay in 1996 a lot of people wanted him to run against bill clinton but he didn't want the job he wasn't interested in politics and he still led in the new hampshire polls in 1996 and one the new hampshire republican primary on write-in votes what

the fuck wow i mean he desnutsed it because because he stood at a podium while we just fucking bombarded a country well by the way it's also that he doesn't want to do it and so that is that is a there's a lucky hero there is something about that that makes you go like that's why we need you because you're not like the rest yeah yeah yeah for sure so i can't imagine winning though he's like i have to go give a accepted speech thank you everybody again i'm not doing

this so please stop so he defeated bill clinton in an exit poll conducted on election day wow if he had been the nominee for a republican party he could have easily won he would be mentioned as a possible candidate in every election between 1998 and 2016 what i mean okay and we are full of psychopaths what what what what makes him different why would he not want more power what what is it his wife i really think his wife is his wife

his wife really did not want him you know they had three kids and and she also thought like well that's a job where i i'm part of i have a job like right it's not it once you're the first lady now you're a thing and she was like right that's not she goes i'm happy she really like being a military wife but she's like that's a whole different animal but just the fact that people people want him so bad all he is done is stood at a podium and talked about how awesome our bombings were

and fucking lied yeah but they've just they've just spent so long turning our brains and expectations into mush yeah so uh there's a new yorker profile of colon and in it jesse jackson was asked about him quote we can all have positive assumptions but we still don't know we do know that very right-wing white people can trust him they can trust him to drop bombs man you gotta like i mean he really had like that is

just i remember when jesse jackson was when did he run he ran in what like 88 just the vilification of him right so uh you know that so there's a little bit of like what kind of black dude is this obviously in there um when colon was asked how he had something like racial erasure in these quarters of power he said quote one i don't shove it in their face you know i don't bring any stereotypes or threatening visage to their presence

some black people do too i can overcome any stereotypes or reservations they have because i perform well third thing is i ain't that black wow wow wow wow that's wow very fascinating statement it is a lot that's a lot i mean look it's it's something too white guys can't really go into i just i agree i have some alarm bells going off and you know i would love to have i would love to have you know an african-american come on here and explain to me what the breakdown of that is um so he he he cashed in right

colin pal cashed in now he wrote a book my american journey it was the fastest selling book in random house history he he got he got a six million dollar advance oh for fuck's sake i i it's just like at what is public service i mean he just just bring up what he did with the the my lime asker did what he did with fucking iran contra like why okay whatever i know it's it's it's it's it's it's more interesting because it's so real it's so much more relevant

to how the world works and i mean we're beings who are trying to like process the world around us and information in that is so important and yet we just have no i mean i'm a great example when i went when i started this podcast i was like man this guy's out of his fucking mind i was like what is he talking about so you know besides the book he he he starts hitting the lecture circuit he's just making millions of dollars him and his wife created a nonprofit called american promise

to promote created a profit to create to promote youth volunteerism sure and is it i know he's a general but even for a general that's pretty general so this connected him with corporate america so now his company and he's schmoozing with oracle best buy kelog talk about he's getting money from these companies for his so he's in the fucking mix now right he's gone from military now to corporate money right and his nonprofit is is like and intertwined in that

yeah his nonprofit is like it's like one of those vague it did get criticized for being like yeah this is the thing i don't know what the like it was like help kids get him off the street give him right it's just so big it's a vague nonprofit it's it's a total and people like volunteerism so i guess volunteerism is i don't know it's a thing it sure so in 1999 volunteer a taco bell for free in 1999 long time volunteerism advocate susan ellis called the data on american promise quote

mystifying so the all the data that's coming in about what this group has been doing for three years she's like that's not a thing right companies weren't reporting what they had done those who did weren't asked to validate it so they could just say they did shit the number of kids reached was incredibly low and she said a dozen reporters had interviewed her and and they told her she was the only one who would officially go on record and say anything bad about

colin's organization she asked quote what exactly is the risk of questioning colin pal's leadership or why he is required mega bucks for his presentations to conferences yeah and i mean it's just again it's like it is it is just it's an avoidance of what you're supposed to i mean you you're in a very important role of reporting truth if you wilt and fail that i mean in retrospect now it's it is it is the key it's the moat around reality yeah so uh

colon pray so this is a great example of what this this group did now colon praised kellox quote the kellox company is a perfect example of what happens when corporate america takes the lead in helping our nations at risk young people they offered 30 million dollars in donations but again okay and then that was in the form of messages on cereal boxes i'm i'm i don't understand what's happening i'm not kidding i'm being genuine like they so

so so they so okay you're kellox so he okay guy comes to uni says i want to help at risk youth you know we need to reach out to them we need to we need to get messages to them we need to you know help them out but i give you 30 million dollars for this no so they're like how about if we give you 30 million dollars worth of what pr whatever we're gonna write a message on a cereal box 30 million dollars of ink our valuation is 30 million which is a write-off so then they're able to donate to his

charity to somebody i mean whatever it is but they it's a write-off they they're putting up they're putting a blurb on a fucking cereal box and saying it's worth 30 million and get money back because they're i mean they're saying that could be ad space or whatever yeah but if it would be different if they were buying billboards but it's like you're already making the boxes yeah i know but it's a lot of work to add that message the previous year before they did this kelly get fired 70 745 workers in battle creek the next month

workers agreed to a contract to get a raise of a a dollar 43 over three years a couple years after that 500 more would be laid off today today they've gone on strike after being forced to work weeks straight on unlivable wages kelex just brought in scabs none of that fucking matters because they're a great company because they put uh hey jimmy play basketball after school thing on a fucking weedies box like it's crazy so uh colon he's rolling in it right he's now

rolling he's now one of the highest price speakers in the u.s the new york times quote amassing an investment portfolio in excess of 28.2 million dollars it's enough to print ads on a box hmm so uh then your 2000 comes george w bush steals the presidency and uh he appoints colin pal secretary of state i didn't steal anything sure and then comes 9 11 colon pal quote the american people wanted somebody killed which is true yes the bush administration sold the

huge lie that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction quote intelligence gathered by this and other governments leaves no doubt that the iraq regime continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised this regime has already used weapons of mass destruction against iraq's neighbors and against iraq's people which we helped him get whatever um bush also said hussein was training and harboring terrorists including al-qaeda the connection it's so it really even then it was like this is like oh everybody we all knew it

was a lie then it was something thin that's something that came out when pal died is everyone was like well he didn't know we all fucking knew we all knew he was lying oh we were all like what is happening right now we believe that the tooth fairy and uh because she leaves money in santa claus is also uh involved in the gift given process which leads us to easter bunny um so it's just a general war it sounds right they're all not pretend this is all real you know i i like the way you talk like

you sound like a guy i want to have a beer with so like i'm i'm down absolutely hey i'm not like you i don't really know what the fuck to do you're fun yeah that's right uh so yeah um so they tie they tie you know hussein to terrorists which is you know bullshit um general wesley clark would later reveal the us was planning to take out seven countries in five years iraq syria lebanon libya samalia sudan and iran so now so this is like well we have a perfect time to take out iraq this is a great reason to do it but

yeah we have a general on the record saying that was the plan colon uh colon colon painted himself as reluctant but he came across as a rational supporter that bounced out the frothing revenge crew like chenny rumsfeld and bush so he's he's what they need right he is the popular american oh dude this moment that this moment it there was a lot of skepticism i even remember around i mean a lot of it they're they're a lot of people's thought on whether or not this

would make sense completely hinged upon what you're about to yeah get into 100 so he he willingly played the the role as the voice of reason for the iraq war bush and chenny falsified the reasons for war and rather than express doubts colon told president bush he could take his case to the un and win over the world so it was his suggestion to go to the union un right carl rove then suggested that colon should make the case to the un

because he's the guy everybody loves and you and inspectors well it really is i mean he was basically like you're the you're the only one who trusts yeah you know there's a huge part of the country that is like no we don't want to go back to iraq that's crazy yeah you and inspectors had found zero evidence of master weapons of mass destruction because there were no weapons of mass destruction rumsfeld remember he was just like we know where they are there in the north the south and the west and east and was like

what what's going on but nobody believed him at all yeah uh in the oval office bush looked at the colon powell and said quote are you with me on this now had he in that moment said no she's he would have not done to have lied to the un and he had done he would have done the very moral thing and resigned instead of taking us into a war based on lies and bush would have had an incredibly hard time making the case for war if his general retired saying no this is bullshit

before the speech i mean it that the the diverging of that moment you know it is it is the regular timeline or the biff timeline before the speech cheney's chief of zoe this is like a couple weeks before or whatever cheney's chief of staff gave colon a document full of lies connecting hussein to osama bin lat according to new york times reporter robert draper colon said quote you guys really believe all this shit uh not helping his case here dave not helping the legacy colon appeared at the un and would point at satellite photographs and drawings

of what he claimed were secret facilities in iraq that housed chemical biological and maybe even nuclear weapons he held the vial of what he said could have been among it was a vial that could it was a vial of anthrax that could have been it wasn't but it could this could be the stuff he could have prop comedy yeah it was total it was a prop but i mean that that that was that was to i had a couple of friends who were with me that it was a bad call and then i literally remember one of my friends

being like you think they're all lying i don't even i was like yeah it's crazy it is crazy i mean if they are it's crazy they were very that i remember his speech the next day it was just torn apart by the experts the experts tore apart every part of it but everybody believes it anyway everybody was like it really was it was what it was what sold it yeah so he's got this crazy little vial he dismissed iraq drop that vial during that oh

shit everybody get out of here no this is salt this is sea salt he dismissed iraq's denial of having weapons mass destruction as a web of lies but the one lying is colin pal his entire speech is one blatant lie after another quote leaving saddam Hussein in possession of weapons of mass destruction for a few more months or years is not an option not in a post-september 11th world during his speech he literally made up things he claimed were said in conversations embellishing to the point of them being complete lies

he and that's all his doing nobody asked him to that he literally embellished conversations to falsify them quote my colleagues every statement i make today is backed up by sources solid sources these are not assertions what we're giving you our facts and conclusions based on solid intelligence uh that must have been like i mean it's one of those things where it was probably like at the end like that line got added and he's like i mean that's really like that's a big one and they're like well i mean you're saying the other stuff

earlier he's like he there's no fucking way he didn't write this speech that i'm sorry but they didn't write it for him that's who he is yeah i mean it's just it's just my life it's who he is such it's it's just it was such a like i mean it what it was it was you were so convinced by the end you were like oh fuck oh people were yeah people yeah the country was just like oh wow okay yeah this is fucking crazy his speech was the moment that pushed the u.s. full throttle into the iraq war joe biden called the speech quote powerful and irrefutable i'm sorry but

but biden knew biden knew what the actual facts were so i mean if you go back and look at the things oh it's been on the side of it's just like you're just like every time it was bad he's like i'm in charge of this one you're like oh my god dude all experts pointed out the lies of the speech they were obvious and that was all ignored colonel extinguished the majority of domestic skepticism uh and sorry there but there

was also a lot of crazy rah rah in the media too like yeah yeah yeah oh for sure like big big big big papers were saying that they had that there were actually connections between hussain and al-qaeda and the weapons of mass destruction and stuff yeah oh no the new york times the new york times is lying this whole thing yeah um and then you know you you know people for people who weren't around then like like at the university of tennessee they had a massive pro-war rally which is a rally that's it's not a protest that's a rally yeah right well

and also it was like that anytime you were questioning it you were not supporting the troops and that became this that became this kind of undercutting line that was used so effectively to look i've said this before i think on this podcast but i got arrested protesting the first gulf war in santa barbara we we protested in front of raytheon and we we all got arrested when the news the local news that night played their story about the arrests they transpose an iraqi flag waving behind us shut your fucking mouth you've

never said that before on here oh i haven't yeah as we were arrested yeah yeah so that that's the kind of environment you're dealing with right it's it's just fucking total madness wow yeah um so why did you do it in front of that iraqi flag right so for the second time in his career he played an integral and essential role in invading a country that posed absolutely no threat to the united states of america he didn't have much of a role in the war his state department was pushed out of

all planning by chainie and rumsfeld as you can hear in iraq war on our iraq war episode so he he was used he did his job and now they were done with him uh he was pushed out pushed out of the administration when bush won re-election uh he resigned he was apparently quote furious that he'd been made a patsy which i don't believe again this is i think the pr story that he plays he's not he was happy as shit to do all this stuff unless his whole career leading up to it was some aberration and you know this

is the only time he was i i have the theory that there's two of them oh yeah yeah there's a pre there's a pc and there's a the pc so um so this is fucking crazy when he retires in in in 84 he resigns his approval rating is at 87 percent i mean that's just 87 percent pwe herman think about think about all the shit he's done in his crypt it's just i mean it it it

it's the model i mean if that is that is that's the model yeah so what does he do now with all of this well he joins us a silicon valley venture capital firm in 2008 he endorsed brock obama he was put on the boards of uh huge federal contractors sales force and bloom energy and he would often downplay the behavior of the united states on the world stage my life was just a procedural error chili was a mistake that he's and he's not proud of iraq he said they all had faulty information at the time

or as he called it at the time quote do you really believe this shit when he was given the report they brought a guy in who held up a vial and he convinced us that that could kill us i mean they were really trying to convince us yeah that's him yeah okay yeah it's so he tried to portray him he actually called himself a break man saying he was the guy in the room always voicing dissent and calling things i didn't throw the money in the bag i just held the door for us to get out i told him not to rob the place

just because i had a mask on i mean i didn't want to get in trouble but look in reality he never saw a war or a conflict that he didn't go full on into nor you know happily cover up all the shit you can't thrive inside of this situation unless you are you know either extremely malleable or completely complicit yeah uh yeah so like i said he says he tries to he tries to portray himself as a bank break breakman but he's really into the wars uh as uh i will call him the great

breakman now he once told robert draper of his un speech quote i knew i didn't have any choice what choice did i have he's the president so yeah you do have a choice every like an honorable man a moral man tells the president no you have a fucking choice you can walk away you have millions of fucking dollars you have right he's a fucking multi-millionaire at this point he's at a great career people fucking love him he he can easily fucking walk away

there is no he's the president he's illegally invading a country by lying you you would normally i would normally say like you know it kind of doesn't matter because there's another person behind him who will do it but in this situation there wasn't it was really it was really hinging upon i mean it was the two-minute drill the ball was in colin pal's hands you know it it was like i don't think there was anyone else that would have been able to sell it yeah uh he recognized it was a quote

blot on my record oh that i well at least he owned it the iraq war left over a hundred thousand iraqis dead the u.s lost over four thousand troops it cost over two trillion and of course now it's just still spiraling out of control 20 trillion at the end of it or something yeah uh still in 2012 even with all the horrible wake of destruction and destabilization colon told the ap the u.s quote had a lot of successes because iraq's terrible dictator is gone

so he's so much safer so he's never uh he's he's that's that's when the real you know it comes out the real colon pal leaks out so in um 2013 uh it was leaked gossiper the hacker oh right yeah right leaked emails of a relationship between uh powell and uh a romanian parliament member corina croutou so they'd work together in whatever diplomatic meetings or whatever in like 2010 and they were very spicy emails

i don't know about this why why i mean and that's the thing that's so fucking annoying about the news networks is that there's so much interesting shit you could totally get ratings off of this other shit i mean obviously they're just bought but i would just be like there is a model for like oh my god at one point she uh texted him uh sip a glass of wine with me as you used to tell me advising me to lie neck naked on that sofa well by the way it is spicy but it's like old weird people spicy

well it's like you offered me a glass of wine and then told me to lay naked on the lounger i mean her her english isn't great she's trying to write stuff and it's it's pretty bad but uh yeah so there's look most of it is her it is her uh hitting on him and him not really responding with stuff but she would say stuff she would say stuff like memories tell me to lie naked right like so there's shit there so he probably was like yeah quit emailing this yeah well once he figured out uh he had been hacked by gossiper he told her to

delete everything even though he probably already had it um she called him the love of her life oh wow he said uh that you know he said quote over time the emails became very personal in nature but did not result in an affair those type of emails and a years ago there was no affair then there was no affair now well the guy wouldn't lie so wow at one point at one point she said good weather could make you come meaning come to romania

oh and and i know i was gonna say oh an 82 degree day i'll ruin my swim trunks and he responded you and the weather could make that happen wow yeah so uh yeah i don't know what uh what to make of that but uh we'll leave that there sure sure hopefully people don't get our emails uh so right so october 18 2021 colin powell died from complications from covid 19 at the age of 84 cop despite despite uh you know they were of course all the all the the the tony blairs and the people like that he's a great man

they have fucking lovely uh person he couldn't have been more honorable um but then in some circles he's roundly criticized as the man who lied us into war liberals and conservatives in the u.s and elves will fucking love him and they cheered his greatness iraqi journalist uh mutadir al zayadi said quote i am saddened by the death of colin powell without being tried for his crimes in iraq but i'm sure the court of god will be waiting for him al zayadi may be the greatest hero of the iraq war he is the one who threw a

shoe i knew it i knew it at bush i knew it god just honestly it takes so little like if the buddha just smashed his face i'd be like okay i feel better about it yeah i feel a little bit better it it really is like it this and this keeps happening this you know like when when our when news networks that are considered left and right are bringing on like when bill crystal or uh david from or you know like like

people who are part of the starting of this nightmare are your voices of reason it just does show you how far off the map we really really are yeah oh even a geography major be able to tell you but yeah when so it it and and when he did die the amount of outpouring i mean there was like there was it was everywhere yeah the the level of outpouring of emotion support and even minor acknowledgement of what he did but

but you know sanitizing it so that it wasn't bad to what you were saying that he was he was like the bad cop you know on the whole on the whole thing and like and and when tony blair is singing your praises that should not be looked at as positive those should be flags they've created this ring this in this this ring of who they are what they want and what they'll do to protect it and we are unable to get through it we can't

we can't you send you send good people to go fulfill the mission of ending this shit and they just get sucked in as well you know it goes on and on the idea that nobody is ever able to actually change the level of commitment to not just not just giving the military money but all the covert missions and all the proxy wars and all these things that are going on that are our our attempted coups that you just never fucking hear about it's it is we are so enamored by something that we aren't

that we're unable to ever recognize who we are yeah and and we've just lived in it for so long now well if you don't if you don't take responsibility for what you've done then yeah if you don't acknowledge if you don't acknowledge as as a country you know the things that we have done well look i mean i i think one of the greatest examples is this russian thing that just happened you know where russia stole the election blah blah america literally overthrew russia in the mid 90s like we

well our bankers and our we are fucking ci we went in there and we we overthrew it the reason putin is in power is us like we just create a fucking shit show everywhere but that's the same with hussain right yes we we well we find it's hussain because we were on the same with al-qaeda yes we created al-qaeda all the shit we made and so it's just like we're a bad friend well and the cia is just uh i mean they're outside of any control and they just

create shit storms like they're a disaster absolute disaster and and so when you really think about like the level of how you know you bring on on again i mean i just i use the mainstream media networks because that is where most americans get their information as far as what is important and what is going on when you have i don't think so anymore i think they're done well would you would i think they're done too i mean they're trying to launch streaming networks and it's actually quite hilarious but

okay but like the washington post or the new york times like sure it's still these enormous institutions that have never been brought to task for the misrepresenting and misreporting that they've done at minimum um foolishly and you know more so because they've been told to and they're controlled by the corporations and shit like that you just can't get the real message through it's even twitter i mean like twitter is like able to deplatform or like you on fucking instagram when like if you look up you

you don't find you right you have to put in your exact fucking underscores dav underscore anthony underscore yeah to find you so you there is this there is this effort at the highest of levels where we get information or where at least people could publish truth true information but the real truth is also removed you know when you look at what is going on with assange it's just like the fact that that is where people have decided to focus vitriol really just shows you

how easy it is to convince us our ass is our mouth and our colon is our general Jesus. Speaking of which the sources are Karen DeYoung the book soldier the life of Colin Powell Christopher Sullivan Colin Powell a political biography and then of course Colin's own book my American journey also little NotalBiographies.com Jacobin magazine history net history.com The Guardian Rolling Stone, NPR, AP News,

Consortium News, and American Prospect everyone should read American Prospect, Politico, Mother Jones. That's not a tasty no it's uh it's I I had no idea I actually never paid attention to him I thought he was you know I've just said he's a war criminal since the Iraq war but I I didn't know about the Vietnam stuff I didn't know about the Iranian Contra stuff I didn't even know he was part of Panama like this guy's history is just grotesque

it's a it's a really bad history of a person and and to note how celebrated he was in America is uh that's that's how diseased America is America is a fucking diseased dark disturbing country and it it truly it truly is I mean it's you know there's for a country that tries to point out the flaws in almost every other place it's like holy but we don't we point out the flaws in ways that aren't real right yeah yeah yeah but I mean that you know we are we do we are considered like the referees of

earth in many ways but we call ourselves that the rest of the world I'm fucking asshole dude of course I'm talking about the I'm talking about the way this country views itself yeah the way that the way that we view I mean I when I say we I don't mean like you and I I mean like Americans Americans right we consider ourselves to be this thing that is so important that it's almost it's so untrue in so many ways that it's almost impossible for us to process you you are talking about

deprogramming like scientists if you're going to actually let people in on really how it all fucking yeah it's it works and why it works anyway you're a bummer you're a fucking bummer but I was just reading the story you got all yeah right I'm at least glad you had to read a part of his book you prick I'll teach you well here's some fun stuff I didn't uh Ron Placone did I I was a placoner I read a bunch of articles but this is a placone situation man just very I didn't read the books yeah man

well it'll be interesting to see how people feel about this you know who gave me just fucking own up to your shit at this point Jesus yeah I know I know it's time for us to admit we're the ones pissing in the coffee maker at the office I am so exhausted by people not wanting to hear the truth it's just exhausting and that's on the fucking that's that's liberals and conservatives there's oh yeah I mean I just watching people the left even

biden's biden's not doing a good job and people flipping out you're like he's the covid's a disaster right now it's a disaster you can say this isn't going well diluting look you have two options you can either dilute yourself now or dilute yourself when it's trump again so pick when do you want it when do you I mean you'll we acknowledge reality when it's trump and it's fucking disgusting we have you have you have to in order to avoid that beat it you can't do the same you have to beat it

you have to provide the the whole thing watching it just sort of wilt in the hands you know it's just like the obvious play and we're not it's not even asking for a ton no it's just like some shit yeah some shit just cancel fucking just do the things you said you'd do do this would be an extremely popular president yeah he would ah all right fuck you Dave oh what no we sign fuck yous