The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 519 - Satchel Paige and Trujillo

Episode Date: February 8, 2022

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine baseball player Satchel Paige and President Rafael Trujillo.  Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 uh... you're listening to the dollop on the all thingy comedy network this is uh... american high story a poor cast each week by david anthony reed story that i made up totally fabricated from a back in history to a guy gareth reynolds who has no idea what the topic is going to be about they really just sticking to the original is probably it's for sure it's uh... it takes on a life
Starting point is 00:00:31 you know that i mean that it takes and that it's on it comes a lot it's like watching someone who knows how to play an instrument played improperly it's like you've done theater right you've done theater and theatrically trained i have a bfa in the fine arts so you know every time you do shakespeare whatever you change it up that but that shakespeare new words from in there
Starting point is 00:00:53 yes but that shakespeare where they were encouraged improv and uh... like any play you uh... you change up the words you think you know when i did shakespeare in high school one of the funniest things was how nobody knew what they were saying yeah yeah like it was basically like some people who just memorized french and then just said it
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Starting point is 00:04:39 lee royer robert page she was born in was born in a mobile Alabama. His parents had 11 kids. They lived in a four room house. Dad was a gardener. Mom was a domestic worker. I think mom was busy like healing between pregnancies. That's great. Yeah, seriously. 11. So they mostly lived on the vegetables they grew and fish they caught like, you know, they didn't have a lot of money. But they don't, they don't go to Costco and order from Amazon. No. Oh, oh boy. So yeah, they go, they have all foods delivered. No, I eat. No. So here's the thing. There wasn't that stuff. So you have to, you had to go to the store, but no, no, none of that was a thing.
Starting point is 00:05:29 You go to the river, you catch a fish and you'd eat her. Sorry. Really terrible. Yeah, no, it's what life was. And it was a lot slower and a lot simpler and a lot better. Terrible error. Unless you were, you know, not white and rich. Oh, it's the same as now. So Leroy loved baseball. His big baseball kid, his mom said he'd rather play baseball than eat. Sure. Right. Well, that can't last too long. No, that's like four days. Leroy died. He just kept playing baseball for dinner. He played baseball to his death. When he was six, his mom told him it was time to get a job to help support the family. When he was how old? Six. I mean, I'm not saying that six year olds back then were like six year olds today, but
Starting point is 00:06:24 there's like a fathoming barrier there, I would imagine. I don't understand. Like now people are like, you cannot go past the end of the driveway. Yeah. Or even on the driveway until you are nine and back into like, just go and get a fucking job. Yeah. Six. So to work. Now you could put your blocks down. You're going to go to work. Now his nine year old brother had been working for a while. Of course, nine. Yeah. I mean, yeah, at least three or four years. He's grown adult. How many kids? That he have at nine, he had like four. Okay, cool. Normal. So Leroy, his first job was basically kind of a job, but he collected bottles from the trash and then sold them to bootleggers. Okay. That's that I can see
Starting point is 00:07:16 that work at six. It's a profession, not so much a job. Yeah. And then when he was seven, his mom was like, you need to get a better job because this is shit. I need more money. Seven. So your job's not good enough. You're seven now. It's ridiculous. So he started carrying bags for passengers at the train station. He got a dime for each bag he carried. Okay, that's it. Little young, but okay. So he came up with an idea. Young Leroy. He started putting, he started putting satchels on a pole. So he would put people's bags on a pole and then he could carry more than one when the people got off the train. At seven? Yeah. So some real ingenuity. He got up to being able to carry 16 bags on the pole and
Starting point is 00:08:09 two on his arms. And then he could make two bucks in a trip carrying all those bags. Right. It's also completely insane. He's upping his margins. It sounds like a lot. I mean, for a seven-year-old child to be leading that many bags, okay. Now his friends teased him and said he looked like a satchel tree. Oh, man. And then. So strange. And from that point on, he had the nickname satchel. Okay. Satchel page. Wait a minute. That's ringing a bell. Though this was a story Satchel would tell. A friend would later say that he had come up with a nickname because Satchel was caught trying to steal a bag. His friend gave it to him because he was caught stealing a bag. That's what his friend said. It could be either
Starting point is 00:09:02 way, honestly. Right. At 12, Satchel got busted shoplifting some brass rings and he was sentenced to the Alabama Reform School for juvenile Negro lawbreakers. Okay. Now, not so much of school. This was basically just another way to keep slavery alive. It had 125 acres of farmland. And the the CPR that the whites put into slavery to get that pulse back up in every different facet. Yeah. Come on. Breathe into it. What if we put kids in a slave game? I mean a reform school. Yes. You almost said a word that that's not. We'll fix it in a school. We're just we have free labor training facility and we train. This is what we could this is work college. Yeah, kids. This is it's crop college. It's good. One class and
Starting point is 00:10:04 it's called work. You know, it's best for a boy who is already stealing or going down a bad road is to show him that his his labor, his work is worth nothing. Yes. Yes. So we take all the money, then we buy a bunch of stuff and that's right. Shandeliers, la, la, la. So yeah, quote, half a day is given to schoolroom instruction and half a day to manual work. There were now talking about schoolroom instruction. There were three teachers for two hundred and eighty five boys. Oh my God, which is close to California numbers. I was just about to say it's like I love I love how some of these eye popping numbers are coming back and like we really have allowed. Yeah, that's coming back. Yeah. There was no indoor
Starting point is 00:10:58 plumbing. He slept in a bunk bed with three other boys in the bed. Like it's just a shit situation. Wow. But the school baseball coach taught satchel had a pitch. Sorry. There are half a day of classes, half a day of, you know, like, you know, slavery adjacent slavery. Yep. And then it's it's not slavery adjacent. It's it's slavery as defined in the Constitution, which is prisoners can be used for can be slaves. That's in our Constitution. Prisoners can be slaves. So this is slavery. I'm not done with my point. I'm I cut in there because I had to save you from the embarrassment that was headed your way. You know, the people were going to twit or whatever. I'm a white man. I don't I can't admit it. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:11:54 We are learning like Joe Rogan right now. Thank you. Thank you. Um, sorry, do you want to finish your or did I crush it? Do I like why? No, no, everything's done from my end at this point. I'm good. So so he he letter says going to the reform school was a positive because, quote, if I'd been on the streets of Mobile to wander with those kids I'd been running around with I'd have ended up as a big bomb a crook. I feel like he would have ended up with like 150 bags behind him. Like just like with like an octopus with bags like a Dr. Seuss bag situation. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Um, I would I would venture to say he loved baseball so much that he would have just kept going as a baseball player. But who knows?
Starting point is 00:12:49 So Satchel learned to act with this coach at the reform school kick his leg up high. Well, I was pitching like super high and to hold on to the ball for as long as possible. Like little tiny tricks that help you sort of chorus line a little bit like up and ready and toss. Exactly. That's right, Satchel. Legs up. One, two, three, kick, kick, stop. Toss that ball. Are you a baseball coach? I used to work in Broadway, but then I came down here to coach a little bit too. Yeah. Come on, everybody. Let's see those hands. Get them up and let me see it this time with feeling. We lost again. He started running fastball on the bottom of his shoe. We've all done that. So opposing players could see
Starting point is 00:13:38 it when he kicked his leg up. Quote, you know what's coming. Let's see if you can hit it. Well, the catcher was like, Hey, man, that's kind of we're supposed to have a little twin language going on. So at 17 in 1923, he gets out of reform school. And days later, he walked onto a tryout for a local semi-protein, right? So he wasn't invited. He just rolled in. This is what, like 1920-ish? 1923, yeah. And I mean, Jackie Robinson is it? So it's still your arms is way off. Yeah. So he's still not able to, when you say semi-pro, like on Negro Leagues. Okay, gotcha. Yeah. So he walks on, he strikes out the manager in the tryout 10 straight times. Should the manager be batting? I mean, a manager can be always kind of like
Starting point is 00:14:38 the guys who are like, Hey, man, you couldn't do this if you tried. Boy, he's got a wicked curveball. Don, you're a hefty man. I only got one eye, but this kid can really toss. I sharded when I swung the last one. Back then at the semi-pro level, the manager would have also been a player. Okay, okay. Yeah, they didn't really have that. For a semi-protein, you would have a manager manager player. So anyway, so he played with the Mobile Tigers for two years. And in 1926, he was approached by the owner of the Chattanooga White Sox. But the owner had to go through Satchel's mom to sign him. And no, no, no, my boy is a bottle collector and a bag boy. That's right. I'm afraid not. He's already got a career.
Starting point is 00:15:26 I'll tell you what, you can trade for him 520 bottles for my son. Wait, 520 bottles? 60 ones. We're going to sell them to bootleggers. Oh, okay. Yes, we can. And we won a nine bottle signing bonus. I have other trash like I can give you. Not trash, bottles. It's just composting stuff. I have. That looks pretty good actually. I have some more cardboard boxes. Not crazy about the boxes that compost. Oh, this couch caught on fire. I have a burned out couch. All right, here's what we'll do. Since you're not playing the bottle game, 550 empty bottles, non-negotiable. I want that regardless. I recognize Satchel has talent here. I'm not an idiot. So you get the 550 bottles over here. I want two of the couch pillows. One
Starting point is 00:16:16 of those boots I see back there. And I'm only one. I want one of those boots back there. But I said stance. You said boots. It's just one boot. I refer to one boot plurally. We're from mobiles. Okay. Idiot. No, it's fine. I get your shoes. I have some eggshells. Oh, yes. So, yes, yes. Like a bucket. This man. I fleece this fella. Look at all these shells we can boot. So he has to negotiate with Satchel's mom. I don't remember. He's like 20 now. So the owner promised to send most of his $50 a month salary to the family. And also, she had a list of demands of how he would behave and stuff he would do while he's on the team. So she's like, you can have him, but you have to be his dad. Yeah, basically strict dad.
Starting point is 00:17:32 Yeah. Okay. So he's an immediate hit on the team like right away. First game chatting at times compared him to former player, Rube Waddell, who was not the best. You've got to be specific. You got to be like, he's like Rube talent wise, talent wise. Yeah, that's the man's never been bitten by a gator and does not throw rocks at birds. What's his puppy deal? He will stay on the mound if you show him a puppy. He loves puppies. He loves puppy, but everybody loves puppies. Sure. But most people don't leave their job when they see one. Well, all right. So Rube was known for his incredible fastball and control. So that's where they're comparing him to. Okay. The owner stuck to the mom's rules.
Starting point is 00:18:16 So if the if the boy gets you on the team, we'll all go out to dinner. Satchel could not go and he would have to go eat with the manager instead. All right, everybody have a good meal. Satchel and I are going to eat some macaroni. That's right, my boy. Then you're going to floss. As for playing cards or crowzing, like all the other guys did, he couldn't and he had to be in bed at 9 30. It's shocking that a manager would stick to those like you would imagine that they would just sort of be like, look, don't tell your mom, but instead he's like, what do you want to hear tonight before bed? Or maybe Satchel was like, if you let me go, I'll tell my mom. All right, Satchel, settle down.
Starting point is 00:18:56 So now look, it's not easy being on an all black baseball team, obviously in America in 1923 or 26. So routing is hard. Well, Dave, both were right. You don't need to correct yourself. Yeah, yeah. No, I know 23 was great. 26 is fine, but it took a dive. So routing is hard getting to different stadiums, different playing places, because you have to go through rural areas where you can't even buy food. There's no hotel to stay in. They would have to like pack all the food depending on the route they were going on. Great. And I mean, back then refrigeration was really fantastic. Yeah, yeah, it's perfect. They would have to go to the Bathroom Mountain Fields. Sometimes they would have to sleep on the baseball field
Starting point is 00:19:40 where they were going to play because there were no hotels to stay in. There's no hotels for black people. Oh my God. So you know, field. Yeah, so just the crowds keeping crew. All right, guys, we got to get the lines drawn today, but there's a lot of guys napping out there. So we're going to have to draw lines over the fellas. Then once we start the game, we'll redraw some of the lines. Also, there's two of them on the mound. So we're going to have to leave that dirt till game time. Yeah, Ben, can we just roll them off the place and then make the line? I would, but I don't want to wake them up. I mean, they once you get out there, you'll see these guys are really sleeping. So so I don't want to roll any of
Starting point is 00:20:15 them. Can I what if I what if I blow in a guy's ear to see if he'll roll? No, one way. Ben, Ben, Ben, stop. Oh my God. Oh my God. So we get a bowl of hot water and we put his hand in it and then he will tell the truth where the grounds. What? First of all, you're getting ideas. Way mixed up. No, I think you're confusing truth serum with pranks. You put a fella's fingers in the water so he pisses, not so he tells you the truth. I guess I did understand it. Yeah, thank God we did. Okay, so you just leave him out there. Okay, just clean up what you can. Okay, and we will be mowing by hand with scissors. So we're going to trim the glass. Don't clap like that. We're not panting anybody. We're not panting anybody.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Oh my God. Slumber party. Stop. Oh my God. We switched their shoes. We switched their shoes. We're not switching any goddamn shoes. We're groundskeeping crew. What? And then we call Lucy and we tell her that Bobby actually likes her. What it's actually Steve likes her and say he wants to meet her at the field. What are you talking about? You have a slumber party mentality on a groundskeeping day. And they're all asleep and then she... You're not allowed to talk anymore. You're not allowed to talk anymore. Okay, this is not a birthday party that you were invited to. We're going to grounds... Oh my God. We're going to TP. I'm going to TP the grounds. I'm going to TP the grounds. You're not TP the grounds.
Starting point is 00:21:39 We are the groundskeeping crew. They will wake up and it's going to be so funny. They're going to be beside themselves. For the reaction, can we just TP the grounds? No, no. I have a job to do. I've been very clear about my motive. Okay, I've told you what I want. Okay, we need to clean the field. That's what we're there for. So we're going to be raking. We're going to be cutting with scissors, not lawn mowers, too loud. These guys... Once you get out there, you'll see there's a field of cuties. These are cutie pies, okay? We're not going to do that. Okay, fine. One person can get pants. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I'm going to shed a bag and then I'm going to set it on fire.
Starting point is 00:22:20 It's not shit in bags. Ring the doorbell and we just fucking rock. There's not a doorbell. What do you think this is? You work here. Shit. I got carried away. Lord. So obviously things aren't great when you're traveling and you're a black guy in America. But the team became such a hit that white people started coming to watch them play so much so that they created a section in the stands just for whites because we got to feel comfortable if we're coming to watch black people play.
Starting point is 00:22:54 I mean, that is really quite a distinction. I'd like to go see the black men play. Oh, great. But not around black people. I'd like to watch them not know them. Does that make sense? Yeah, yeah. No, that totally makes sense. You're totally not insane at all. No. There's nothing about you that's completely just that shit. I'm just asking for a segregated area. Right, right, right.
Starting point is 00:23:18 As we do. As we do. Yeah, no, you want to look at them but not have them near you. As we do. Exactly. Yes. Yes. Don't want them to steal our skin color, you see. No, yes, that's right. So Satchel realizes that people are coming to see him pitch and he's draw. So he asked for a raise from $50 to $100. I want another bowl of macaroni with dinner. That's right. And so can I get a raise? And then of that I get a 50 cents and my mom gets
Starting point is 00:23:47 a raise. Can my mom get a raise? My mother would like to negotiate for a raise. So Satchel always demanded his worth. That's something he's going to do his entire life. Now upon getting his first big paycheck from this, this raise, he disappeared for two days to buy new clothes, a steak, a shotgun, a bottle of booze and went, quote, looking for a gal. Wow. So he had, I mean, see he had like, he had 48 hours to just get his life together basically. Seems like it. And I like the order too. Got to get a gun, then a girl.
Starting point is 00:24:22 It's very, it's very. Get some clothes, get some whiskey. Yeah, right, right. I got a steak. All I need is a steak. And that's it. I just need a steak and a get clothes. And a shotgun. Okay. Yeah. It's quite, quite the tall two days. So it doesn't take long for the bigger teams to notice him. And he was sold to the Birmingham
Starting point is 00:24:46 Black Barons of the Negro National League. They're the best team of the black professional baseball in the South. Okay. So he's, it's the big time for as high up as a black dude can go. Right. Okay. And I would argue that the Negro League was better than the white baseball. I'm sorry. Can we take a break? Can we take a five?
Starting point is 00:25:07 Yeah. I will not sit here and hear you talk about that league that way, sir. Rogan. Yeah. Step, step in. What do you have to say? So, um, he hopped around to, uh, he would hop around to different teams over the years. If someone were off from good money, he would just take it, right? Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:26 Um, at one point he signed with the grays in Bismarck, North Dakota is good money, but no one, he gets up there and no one will rent to him. There's, there's rooms for rent, houses for rent. And then he goes there and they're like, Oh, it just, it just got rented. So all over town, no one will rent to him because he's a black guy in Bismarck. Right. So he and his wife, he'd just gotten married. They have to live in an old rail road. Did he find his wife in those two days? Uh, well, we've gone a little ways, but yes.
Starting point is 00:26:01 Really? No, he didn't. Okay. I'll believe anything. Okay. So they end up while he's playing for the Bismarck grays, they have to live in an old railroad freight car that had been turned into a bunk car for road crews, uh, work crews, not for road, for train work crews. Uh, it's on an, So he lived, they lived in a sleeping bunk.
Starting point is 00:26:24 They lived in a train track. Uh, yeah. A bunk train car on a, on a track section that doesn't connect to anything. It's always amazing how like when that phase where white, you know, cause white people have always been so fucking greedy, but it's, there are the days when like their greed trumped, when their greed trumped their racism and there's the days where the racism trumped their greed. Yeah. Yeah. Quite a, quite a species.
Starting point is 00:26:53 It's good. Um, Mm. So he plays there for a little while. Now Gus Greenley is, uh, black guy, numbers racket guy in Pittsburgh. Numbers racket guy? Uh, so the numbers game. Gambler?
Starting point is 00:27:12 Yeah. So it's like the lottery when the lottery was illegal, the numbers, right? Okay. Right. Um, so he's in Pittsburgh and he's just, you know, racking and racking up the fucking the scores and making tons of money. Okay. Um, and he's, he's just got a fortune. So he starts a baseball team, the Pittsburgh Crawford baseball team.
Starting point is 00:27:32 And pretty quickly it's the best team in baseball and he signed Satchel for $250 a month. And then they've just become the elite team. Okay. Satchel has different windups and releases and pitch it. He puts on a show. It's, it's just constant. There's a guy named Kwayto who, I don't think he pitches anymore, but he would just do shimmies and every pitch his body is moving differently.
Starting point is 00:28:02 Like a lot of people see baseball, they think the guy throws the same way, but there is a style. No, not a lot of people know that people would be dancing and doing the robot into the pitch. I mean, literally if you watch Kwayto, he starts really does, he does a little shake and then he throws the ball and the players are just completely fucked in the head from it. Like it's. And that's why it is.
Starting point is 00:28:22 Okay. So it's just to confuse that. Yeah. He turns. I've been to a little bit of that kind of stuff. I teach him to do little things like that because it's would you ever would be willing to teach me some of these moves? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:33 Yeah. I can, we can make some. It'll be great. Yeah. Thank you. So the Crawford's now, he's riding in a custom bus and not like the old rickety ones. He's playing in a brand new stadium. It's like a different experience between seasons, Negro League players would tour the country
Starting point is 00:28:51 playing different teams to make money. It's called barnstorming. All players did this. Even Babe Ruth did this. You would just, you would try to make more money in the summer in the off season. How though? You would just be like a free agent basically. And you would basically set up exhibition games and then people would come and pay and
Starting point is 00:29:07 you'd play a team. So a bunch of people. So a bunch of the players who were in the off season, they would just form like teams and then play. And then go play. Yeah. Gotcha. Gotcha.
Starting point is 00:29:19 And this was the only time that Negro League teams would play white teams. Now their first experience was they could not believe how lame and slow the white guys game was. Keep trying. Someday it'll get to our league. Fuck. Oh, it's amazing. White managers called it, quote, doing things the right way.
Starting point is 00:29:49 What the white playing? Yeah. The way they played baseball. It's doing it. The right way. The white. The white way. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:58 Right. But it would be the white way. Well, Negro League players would call it doing things the white way. Okay. But the managers would say the white players were like, well, of course, if you're trying to run really fast, you're going to be better at baseball and try to hit better, but that's not the right way to play the game. It's not it's not running fast.
Starting point is 00:30:16 It's stealing. It's it's it's the way that the way that satchel does the shimmies. It's it's anything that's outside the standard throw boring. Okay. Right. Okay. So, so, I mean, they're just better at the game. Well, yeah, I mean, they are better at the game, but Negro League players are about speed
Starting point is 00:30:38 and aggression and power and flamboyance. They're showing off, they're having fun, they're doing stuff. Sure. White ball is the opposite, right? So, it's not fun. It's very... The way to play ball is to be not very good at it, boys. You're whites.
Starting point is 00:30:53 Don't do the things to win. Play it the white way. The white... No, I meant right way. Sorry. Right way. Sorry. Gotta keep saying that.
Starting point is 00:31:03 I just... It's the right way. Yeah. The right way. Slow it down, boys. Come on. All right, fellas. Let's look at it a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:31:11 Come on. We're whites. So, it's basically base-to-base hit-a-home run, whereas the Negro Leagues are like steel, do all kinds of shit to get on base, and base-to-base hit-a-home run is what baseball is now. It's almost got this combination of... Because all the... Everyone's like, oh, I hate all the flamboyance and all this shit, and other people are like, well, you need the flamboyance to celebrate up to home run stuff, but what they've done
Starting point is 00:31:42 is they've merged the two things, so it's boring base-to-base sort of baseball with home runs combined with the flamboyance and the celebratory stuff, so it's still a shitty version of white baseball. Does that make sense? So, it's basically... Well, may I try to paraphrase? It's basically the white league took the tactics that were effective from the black league and made them theirs, but then were like, but it's still our game.
Starting point is 00:32:13 No, they didn't take the tactics because if they had it their way, it would still be base-to-base home run baseball. That's what baseball has become. The players from Cuba, the players from Latin America, a lot of the black players want to have a more... So, it's just not fun? It's not as fun, but they're trying to add... They're trying to sprinkle fun on top of a boring base-to-base home run, base-to-base
Starting point is 00:32:38 home run baseball, which is different than the baseball I grew up with, which is where you'd have a guy on the team who bunted and you could never get him out and it'd show people insane. But those guys don't exist anymore. Why would you not do that? That just... Because it's so fucking boring! That's what I...
Starting point is 00:32:53 I was mad. Like, if you took one of those players from back then... I mean, if you had a professional bunter? Yeah, it's crazy. I mean, I wouldn't... I mean, there were professional bunters on baseball teams! Like, it's just... Is that right?
Starting point is 00:33:03 Yes, Brett Butler was the fucking... If he bunted, you're like, ah, fuck! Did they call him Bretty Bunce? Okay. Um, yeah, I mean, so all that stuff is gone. But anyway, whatever, right? Okay, all right. I digress.
Starting point is 00:33:19 So, um, as an example, Satchel's first baseman was named Dave Showboat Thomas. Oh my god, let me guess. He played by the rules. Yeah. This is the best thing ever. Showboat would routinely catch the throws to first behind his back. What? The fuck?
Starting point is 00:33:38 That is dangerous. I... I understand being like, I don't want you to do that. And he would catch him? He'd catch him. He'd make the catch. It's fucking incredible. And why can't that be a thing right now?
Starting point is 00:33:46 Like, you would... You would be like, hey, we're going to a baseball game. Is it gonna be boring? No, because the guy at first catches balls behind his back. Yeah. But I mean, as a manager, if he missed it, you're like, Showboat! Dammit! Catch the fucking ball!
Starting point is 00:34:01 But if he missed it, you're still like, it's fun. Also, you are good. I mean, I would imagine that you're going to generate more interest in a sport, the more interesting the players are, and the more fun the game is. Yeah. They did that for a while in the NFL where they took away, like, and it never made any sense where they took away touchdown celebrations. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:34:22 I remember that. And it was just like... It was bizarre. It was bizarre. Yeah. All just reeks of... Yeah, it is. The old guard.
Starting point is 00:34:30 Yeah. It was getting married. They wanted to control it. And I'm sorry. But when you see these fucking owners, they all look like Skeletor without the mask on. Yeah. But at the end of the day, it's racism because the people who were doing the celebrations they were getting mad at were all fucking black guys.
Starting point is 00:34:46 That's who they were getting mad at. Yes. Are doing it the best, at least. Yeah. But then they put it back because everyone was like, why did you... Why? What do you do this shit? You should have been celebrating a touchdown.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Let them celebrate. And they were funny. I've always had a problem with a guy hitting home run and celebrating when they're down by like four runs. Or up by a bunch. I just think you're an idiot. But that's a different animal. See, I like that guy.
Starting point is 00:35:09 I like... I always liked that player. The guy was like... Oh! So fucking dumb. Okay. Anyway. So...
Starting point is 00:35:17 So Shobot catches balls behind his back. Satchel has a hesitation pitch where he will literally come to a stop almost. And then... Like how Charles Barkley hits a golf ball, basically? I have no idea. That's the craziest... There's a half time in Charles Barkley's swing. There's like a...
Starting point is 00:35:38 There's like the wind up, the half strike, the stop, then the weird finish. Okay. I get you. Yeah. So I actually taught Finn to do that. And we'll talk about that later because it comes up again. So that's his big thing. And he has all the different moves, but the hesitations are really, really big.
Starting point is 00:35:56 He would... Like I said, he would slow down completely in his wind up, but not stop. He had a bunch of different wind ups. He had a shitload of pitch. He had pitches called like the whoopie-doo and all this other crazy shit. So... That's quite a name. Gus starts having issues because his more successful players put a spotlight on, I mean,
Starting point is 00:36:19 his success. But his success as a team puts a spotlight on the fact that it's owned by a guy who runs the numbers racket in Pittsburgh, which is illegal. So he starts having hard times in 1937 because the cops got a snitch on the inside and he was tipping him off and he's losing money because of it. So he has to start selling players. The last guy he wants to sell is Satchel. The first guy to go is Josh Gibson, who is at this point the Negro League's Babe Ruth.
Starting point is 00:36:53 So he sells fucking Babe Ruth to keep the best pitcher ever, right? Wow. Gus is just dumping players and keeping Satchel because Satchel says big draw, but then Satchel is like, fuck this, I want to be traded. So with his trade demand out there, he shows up in New Orleans for spring training and he's already late to spring training to show how upset he is by what's happening. He's a big celebrity. He's a huge celebrity on the black side of town.
Starting point is 00:37:24 He walked around in a canary yellow suit and people would just gawk at him wherever he went. Like he's a big fucking celebrity. So one night he goes to his hotel and there's a guy waiting out front. His name was Dr. Jose Enrique Enrique Ibar and he says to Satchel, quote, President Trujillo has instructed me to obtain the best pitcher possible for his team and our scouts recommend you. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:37:54 Who are you? Right there on the spot. He offers Satchel $30,000. Oh my God. To play for the president of the Dominican Republic. Now, I mean, it just got into your hotel. Can I get that name again? So Rafael Trujillo from a very small rural area as a teen he joined a gang called LA44.
Starting point is 00:38:27 He landed a job as a private cop for sugar plantation where he basically brutalized workers. The U.S. invaded Dominican Republic in 1916 because bankers do debts, bankers needed to take over. Sorry. I'm sorry. Dave, sorry, brought democracy to. They brought democracy in horrible conditions and destroyed. Freedom.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Freedom. Yes, freedom. That's what I mean. Freedom. Freedom. So an American military dictatorship follows that and during this time a baseball rivalry develops between a Marines team and local Dominican teams. So baseball kind of takes off a little bit because of that.
Starting point is 00:39:10 It's like they're only outlet to say, fuck you, America. So despite being frowned upon, I didn't understand why did other countries hate us for no reason? So despite it being frowned upon, Trujillo decides to become a soldier for the American side, right? Working with the Americans. And he works his way up to Brigadier General over the years. And after a while Trujillo aids a coup against the president and then forces the successor to resign and runs for president himself.
Starting point is 00:39:43 Interesting. That's the old me coup. Yeah. Me coup. Me coup. So for his campaign, he puts his LA 44 gang back together with, it's always a good sign. I like that you're a key in a coup and then you still run. It's like, bro, just take it.
Starting point is 00:40:04 Well, he wanted to make it seem legitimate to democratic right. So he, I mean, the way he did the coup, anybody, people wouldn't know that he was involved. It was very behind the scenes, making players do this and that. And then once the guy he was backing and helping secretly took over, then he's like, okay, you're out. Okay. So he looked. The old switcher coup.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Yeah. So it seems legitimate. Yes. Okay. So he puts LA 44 gang back together, Miguel Angel Polino is in command of the gang. They just executed political opponents. They would like just go to someone's door, knock on the door, shoot them, drive up in a car, shoot them.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Polino's Red Packard became known as the car of death. Interesting. Which is. It's a fun model. I think Honda makes that now. Slightly cool. Sure. Sure, Dave.
Starting point is 00:41:03 Politicians, journalists, demonstrators, businessmen, students, labor leaders, all just disappearing, right? Your typical authoritarian takeover. He wins 99% of the vote, which is really good. Really good. Really good. That's Putin good. People like him.
Starting point is 00:41:19 Obviously. That's really good. Yeah. That 1% though. Man, that's their problem. It's nice to hear of an opposition. Yeah. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:27 I mean, the way that they structure those, look, 100% would be absurd. I remember when I was able to give my own grade in a class in college, and the guy was like, you can give yourself whatever grade you want, and so I was like, A+, and he was like, really? Is that really? I mean, I don't know if you deserve an A+, and I was like, no, A+, I'll do. He was like, yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:41:51 No, there's a psychology. There's a psychology by this, but you're not supposed to do that. I know, but I don't fucking care. Yeah. But I kind of like him. He's like, fuck it. You just made this weird rule. So A+, I'll do.
Starting point is 00:42:01 Yeah. I know I missed a couple of days in assignments. Yeah. I still deserve an A+. I was really good at this. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:09 I mean, I got a 50% of the test, but what does that mean? That's a nut. That's a number. A+. I'll see you later, Warren. Okay. So Trujillo has a son out of wedlock with his mistress. His son was named Ramfy, and when Ramfy is three, Trujillo makes him a colonel in the
Starting point is 00:42:27 army. Good. Good. Always, yeah. Smart to... Full uniform. Great. Of course.
Starting point is 00:42:35 Yeah. Well, I mean, how are you going to command respect? I mean, he's three. That's right, guys. I'm going to the pool and get the... That sounds good, Colonel. Does Colonel need to make a boom-boom? I'll go...
Starting point is 00:42:59 I made booms and wet, but we'll go bath. Yeah. We'll do a bath today, for sure, for sure. Okay. Do we want to shoot guns today? We'll go to the bed, a nap for a while first. Okay. Good nap.
Starting point is 00:43:19 Yeah. Good naps. Yeah. And then we had said something about a puppy. We wanted to see a puppy today. Two puppies. Two puppies. Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Okay, Colonel. Yeah. How's the army going? Everything going well with my son? That's totally normal. It's totally normal. All right. What's the battle strategy you guys have come up with?
Starting point is 00:43:37 Walk me through it. We're going to throw puppies at the enemy, and then when they reach up to grab them, we're going to shoot them. Interesting. That's where we are. He's a strategic master. Oh, it's amazing. You guys have to get a lot of puppies.
Starting point is 00:43:48 There's a lot of poop in this diaper. He must have had a big day. Yeah. He's made several Colonel-sized boom-booms. This is going great. Yes. All right. Well, listen.
Starting point is 00:44:00 Listen to everything he says. Again, he's fully in charge. No need to cry. It's just weird. I thought why I signed. If you cry, he'll start crying. Okay. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:44:11 So please keep those tears in. Yeah. All right, gentlemen. Continue as you are. Well done. God, things are going well. This makes total sense. Whistling means he's out.
Starting point is 00:44:24 So, right. So he has a three-year-old Colonel. So his powerful supporters is like whatever. Little circle of business guys meet to discuss Trujillo's election, re-election campaign in 1937. I love the playing. It is very, it's always very funny. I mean, I get why you do these kind of faux elections, but it's like, you know, your strategy.
Starting point is 00:44:51 How about you continue to just be in power? Yeah, you're killing everybody. So how are we going to, what's the slogan? How are the numbers looking? It's all irrelevant. I take power. Trujillo for jobs. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:05 We won't kill you. So they decide this group of people. Trujillo's not there. They're a big baseball fan, but they decide, they come up with this plan. They're going to merge the two teams in the capital city, which is known as Quidad Trujillo. And they're going to put the two teams, merge them into one team called the dragons of Trujillo City. So the dragons, right? Sure.
Starting point is 00:45:35 Thank you for the translation. The plan was to have two other teams, one from the east and one from the north. And then there would be a three team tournament that would compete over the spring and summer. And the season would be called championship for the reelection of President Trujillo. So some of us are a little confused as to the strategy here. So you had three teams total. You had four teams, but you merged two of your teams. To me, keep the four teams, you know, just kind of like,
Starting point is 00:46:09 That's fair. It's a little bit more of a league, but instead you have three teams play and that's called the season. It's probably about not a lot of games. And I think it's like 30 games. Okay. So the three teams played. Okay. And you would basically, and then the winner of those would, what was that?
Starting point is 00:46:33 What was the prize? The prize is that the winner is the champion of the reelection of President Trujillo. Okay. I guess I just don't really like stealing the election. No, it makes sense. Okay. So the winner of that makes sense. Now I kind of get it.
Starting point is 00:47:00 Now it kind of makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah. So you live on Salado Tarde over there with your mother? No, no, no. I live underwater. I live with a bunch of shrimp underwater.
Starting point is 00:47:11 Have you ever seen the little mermaid? I live like that under the sea. The tournament makes sense. Yes. Oh my God, the tournament makes sense. Yeah. It's a big season. That's a big, big, great season.
Starting point is 00:47:22 That's what that is. Yeah. So that's great. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Great. Well, no questions.
Starting point is 00:47:30 So once again, the three teams play each other about 10 times roughly. And then the winner of that, the president is Treo. Treo. Well, yes. But the reason we combined the two teams in the city was to get a better team who would... Oh yeah. The last thing you want to do is be fixing events. Yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Because that team has Treo on the front of the uniforms. Oh, okay. So the... Right. Okay. Right. Sure. All making a bunch of sense.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Yep. Yeah, no, it took me a while to understand what was going on. But basically people love baseball in Dominican. So they're like, let's give them a season to celebrate and have fun. The circus? Well, yeah, it's just, yeah, it's a circus, right? So like I said, the team, because it's Treo City, they have Treo across the front. Sure.
Starting point is 00:48:32 But he's the president. Yeah. So in a way, all the teams are sort of... Anyway, you're right. Go ahead, move on. Move forward. So opening day is April 3rd, 1937. They're not very good.
Starting point is 00:48:44 A lot worse than they thought. They start losing to the other two teams who are loaded with stars from Cuba. Okay. And it's pretty clear to Dr. Ibar that they need better players. And at that point, there was just one Negro League player, Bert Hunter, who the locals called King Kong, which is super unfortunate, although it's not a racist place. It's not. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:14 It's not a racist place. So I think it's just an unfortunate name from our perspective, but I think for them, they're just like, well, he's huge. He's huge too. But it's not great, but whatever. No. So Dr. Ibar immediately goes, well, let's get some Negro League players. So he speaks to some scouts.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Why wouldn't you just take the good players? It's all so corrupt. Take the good players from the other teams? Yeah. Just be like... I think they want to have some... Because the fans would be... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Some semblance of it being somewhat fair, like you can't just take the good players from the other teams. Okay. Okay. It's strange. The rules... I get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:58 There's some fluidity. He talks to these scouts, flies straight to Miami, gets in a rental car, drives straight to New Orleans, and makes his offer to Satchel. Okay. And Satchel, like we said, he's the biggest star in the Negro Leagues. And the offer is... He's wearing a Canary suit. He's about to walk into his hotel, and he's offered $30,000 to come play in the Dominican
Starting point is 00:50:13 Republic. Absolutely. Okay. And yeah, $30,000. So Satchel's like, look, I've seen... I've heard deals like this thrown my way. And he said, quote, everything gets said and everything gets promised, and we all shake hands and have a drink, and then everything kind of evaporates.
Starting point is 00:50:31 And all you wind up doing is staring at the damn room in the phone bill in the morning. I want to see the money. He wants to see the money. He goes, show me the goddamn money, and then we'll have a deal. Okay. The next day, Ibar shows up and hands him a bank book. It's an account for $30,000. Satchel Page's name is on it.
Starting point is 00:50:52 And Satchel goes, okay, I just have one demand. I want my catcher to come with me, Cy Perkins. That's it. Okay. He is now heading to the Dominican Republic. Wow. Let us catch it. Wow.
Starting point is 00:51:05 Now, Gus Greenlee is livid. He's furious. Sure. Sure. So he has his publics immediately start attacking Satchel, and the main reason is because he wants to scare other players from also leaving. Right. So, Gus files complaints with the State Department, the Department of Justice, and President Trujillo.
Starting point is 00:51:24 What? I wanted to, and Trujillo was like, you know what, this does seem egregious here. You're absolutely right. We're going to find the man who did this. It's in me. Oh, fuck it. Oh, shit. That's me.
Starting point is 00:51:37 Oh, whoopsie, I did it. You're complaining about me to me. That's right. I'm finally going to put a complaint against you. You know, I kill, I've killed like a bunch of guys. I got a killer guy. Well, I'd like to file some complaints about that too. That doesn't sound very fair, no, it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:51:48 That's not a thing though. I'm going to need a few complaint forms from you, sir. Sounds like you're not doing things right. And I want you to not buy, I want you to take a non-biased look at the behavior of you and be honest. I mean, it's basically like when our government does something wrong and they're like, we're going to investigate ourselves and get to the bottom of this as soon as possible. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:08 It's like when a cop did this. You went cop, shoot, shoot someone in the back and then they go, you know, we got our guys. You know what? We realize this is terrible. We're going to do an investigation. We're going to take a minute, but we swear to God, we're going to bring nobody to justice. We won't rest until you're done thinking about this.
Starting point is 00:52:24 So Gus also gets the Negro League to threaten the two players with indictments. I don't know what the indictments were for, like I couldn't figure that out, but threatening him with indictments. Remember, he does have a contract with them. So they are bailing on a contract, but that did happen in baseball back then. You would go play for somebody else and it's a different league, so it doesn't matter if you're outside the league. It's amazing that you're just like, look, we don't follow any rules as far as what we're
Starting point is 00:52:49 doing in the Dominican Republic, but there are rules to baseball, please. So the owner of the homestead, Gray's, this is a rival team. His name is Cum Posey. Do you want to take a five? Why is that? His name is Cum Posey. Do you need to take a couple of minutes or? Did you need me to spell it out?
Starting point is 00:53:23 If it's CUM, we need to take a five minute break. It's CUM. All right. Let's take a five. Let's take a five. EY. Yeah. Let's take a fiver.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Let's take a fiver. I guarantee you, if I go to Pornhub and put Cum Posey, we'll be a lot of video. I mean, Cum Posey is essentially what Jason, what's his name? Jason, is it? No. Born? Bateman in American Psycho does. No.
Starting point is 00:53:50 He's got that Cum Posey. He's looking in the mirror. I, obviously, when I was researching this, I stopped. Let's take a five. Let's take a five. Let's just take a five just because I think, you know, obviously it's a fine name, you know. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:09 It's not strange about it. It's not. Nothing strange about Cum Posey. God. I wonder when that name went out of style. Hmm. When do people stop using Cum Posey? I mean, it's very close to compost, but it's not.
Starting point is 00:54:26 No. It's not at all. So, okay. Okay. So, all right. So are you ready to keep going? Yeah. Are you ready to plow ahead or what do you want to handle it?
Starting point is 00:54:39 I am. I have finished. I have Cum Posey. You finished? Oh, boy. So Cum Posey. It's just not ideal. Cum Posey called Satchel an ingrate, quote, Negro baseball does not owe him anything.
Starting point is 00:54:58 He owes Negro baseball plenty. Okay. Mm-hmm. I would, I would say. No, no, no. I would say that's a very similar attitude to what Kaepernick got. Yeah, that's true. So this all back.
Starting point is 00:55:20 Yeah. I mean, it's also what's going on, like with Brian Flores, the coach now who's like, Oh, yeah. I mean, they basically are just like, he will never coach again is, yeah, he's resigned to that, that fact, you know. So all this, all this stuff that Gus is doing, it backfires because the attacks made the other players aware that more money was being offered by Dominican times. The stri-sand effect.
Starting point is 00:55:46 Yes. And quickly they start following Satchel down there. No, wait, no, because their offers are fantastic. Listen, there are amazing opportunities in the Dominican Republic that Satchel took advantage of. We're all really pissed off. Here's what we're going to do if you never go and take the better deal. It's easy to get.
Starting point is 00:56:07 They're offering it to a lot of our players. You do not take that. You stay here. You play for us. Don't be a Satchel page. Yeah. Well, you can. But you better not.
Starting point is 00:56:16 What's your question? Your question. What's the deal? What is the deal? Oh my God. They paid him tons. It's ridiculous. It's eye-popping.
Starting point is 00:56:24 Let me tell you this. They gave him, are you sitting down, $30,000. Isn't that disgusting to put a price tag on your talents like that? And where are you going? Where are you headed? Wait. Ba-ba-ba-ba. Ba-ba-ba-ba-ba.
Starting point is 00:56:38 Ba-ba-ba-ba. Ba-ba-ba-ba. Where the fuck did they all go? Yeah. They got a bus pulled up and they got on it. It said Dominican on the side, so I don't know what that was, but they... Well, it's probably a bus that's going to take them to the Dominican Republic. I'm not sure if a bus can get there, but seems plausible, I suppose.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Yes. I don't know. Well, listen, you do not want to be an assistant there. Let me tell you. They are paying hand over fist for assistance right now, so you and I, we will rebuild. Okay? We got a bunch of traders in our ranks. You don't even want to know what they're doing for assistance over there.
Starting point is 00:57:13 Okay? So let's just... My God. What are they doing? It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable. What? Oh yeah, they're just paying, oh, thousands of dollars.
Starting point is 00:57:22 They're paying way better. Where the hell are you going? You do not leave. How is that door not locked at this point? This door should be locked. Well, now that I'm alone, you don't even want to know that they're paying you over there. Wait, what are they paying me? They're paying me a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:57:37 Well, maybe I should go there. I'm not betraying myself. I didn't get to put a price tag on me. You know what? Maybe we should go to the Dominican Republic. Well, I think we probably should. All right, let's get the hell out of here. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:57:48 Man, I'm so conflicted. That was a dissent and a madness. What part? So the president of the Astreous Orientals, which is one of the two other Dominican teams, comes to Pittsburgh to try to recruit more players. Gus has him arrested. Okay. His offers are too good.
Starting point is 00:58:16 Yeah, they're basically out there saying... Arrest him for making great offers. Put him in jail for being better at this. Yeah, they basically... I mean, no charges stuck, because it was just fucking crazy. But he gets released after two days. The problem is... I'm in jail for two days. What are you in for?
Starting point is 00:58:40 I think recruiting? Well... I think I did a good job. Here's the problem. They don't pay the Negro League players fucking anything close to what they're worth. Well, it's a horrible betrayal. A lot of these guys... To associate your life with value and your skills with money.
Starting point is 00:59:00 It's just... In this country, I love how this country just births capitalism more than anywhere else and then is horrified at people falling in line. Yeah. So, a lot of these players are getting a buck a game. That's how fucking bad it is. And then if the team was like, oh, we didn't make any profits, they're like, here's some lemonade.
Starting point is 00:59:21 Like, it's really fucking crazy. Oh, I didn't know they were giving him lemonade deals. Yeah. That sounds like, again, like Satchel Page's mother's negotiating. He wants two glasses of lemonade. Not one. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:59:33 Yeah, okay. So, only one player in the country stuck up for the players. It was the Chicago Defender, which was a black newspaper. Sure. The Chicago Tribune headline, quote, it's all black magic. Dictator steals 17 ball players. So, that's what the main media is doing with all this. It's quite...
Starting point is 00:59:57 They're just getting what they're fucking worth. They're getting... And again, the media's ability to... I mean, again, you're not asking for much other than to just be like umpires. But instead, it's the editorial... It's like they editorialize everything. And they still do the way that they have headlines, and then they'll change the headline once people are like,
Starting point is 01:00:20 hey, that's really misleading. They're like, oh, well, we've added two words to give context now. Oopsie. What are we supposed to do? Inform you properly? Yeah. So, upon landing in the Dominican, Satchel and Sy check in, and then they walk through the streets of the city.
Starting point is 01:00:37 And there's no whites-only signs. There's just people of all colors hanging out together, having a good time. Oh, disgusting. Go wherever you want at any bar, restaurant. And then people are also very excited about the arrival of these new players. In other words, he gets paid more money to go to a place where there's more respect and more fun entertainment and camaraderie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:05 Right. So one drawback I would say is that the island is run by dictators, killed a bunch of people. Oh, yeah. Right. America. Oh, sorry. I'm like America.
Starting point is 01:01:17 Sorry. Yes. I see how you got confused. Sorry. Oopsie-poopsie. Oopsie-daisy. Oopsie-poopsie. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:25 So their first time. I mean, America's like, you remember that commercial where like, the dad would like walking on the kid doing drugs, and then he'd be like, how the hell did you learn this to go? I learned it from watching you. So that's America with other countries and their political system. Just like, you cannot do that. They need free and fair elections.
Starting point is 01:01:44 And where did you come up with a plan like this? I learned it from watching you. Oh, no. You're not fun. Oh. Me? Yeah. Why do you bash the greatest country on earth?
Starting point is 01:01:55 It doesn't make any sense. I love it. I love it. Right. I love how it's going. Finn was, we were driving today and he goes, oh God, we're in a bad area. And I go, why? He goes, I can see all the American flags.
Starting point is 01:02:08 That's amazing. So their first time they go to the stadium, they get a look at the stadium, which has off the right field fence, outside the right field fence, is a big rusted beached warship, the USS Memphis from the attack in 1916. So this ship had just like beached and they left it. Sort of as like a, I mean, is that, it's just they never bothered to clean it up.
Starting point is 01:02:42 Why did they whale explosion it? The US has to clean it up. Why the fuck would, does the Dominican want to pay to clean it up? It's like expensive. So yeah, they just leave it. I don't think other countries understand that there are hotel rooms. Well, it's a gift. Why do you act like it's bad?
Starting point is 01:02:57 It's a, we gave you a gift. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm grateful. So when the games start, the wins aren't really coming. And the country's biggest sports writer puts out a column that said, more Negro league players are needed. And the president's good name is at stake.
Starting point is 01:03:18 It's amazing that it is all tied in like that. Well, he's, I mean, they basically put up a thing saying, I know he's done it basically. Yeah. I mean, it's, his name is on the front of the, it's his team. It's, Yeah. But it's amazing to be like, I mean, you know,
Starting point is 01:03:34 like political fates are tied to a lot of bullshit, but to have your political fate kind of attached to the win-loss record of a baseball team is a bit risky. It's not great. Now, Satchel and his buddies, the crews hanging with the Negro League player, they have no idea that any of this is going on because they don't read Spanish. So they're total, no one's telling them. So soon more players are arriving for all the teams,
Starting point is 01:03:57 like BigSplow, Spearman, Spoonipalm. Sure, Spoonipalm. But the Dragoons, the dragon, Dragoons still fall to last place. They're still not winning. Out of, out of the three. Out of the three. So third. I could never, the whole time I was doing the story,
Starting point is 01:04:16 I could never get past like there's three fucking teams. Like I could never. And you're trying to like, I mean, if you're a dictator, it just like, I mean, yeah, it just doesn't seem that hard to put together a super team. No. You're a dictator. Well, he has now.
Starting point is 01:04:33 I mean, he's, he, it's just not working, but this is. Right. But even then you're like, fine, let's take those other guys. Look, take a lot of the guys from the, take them in the night. But remember the dictator isn't, he, he's leaving it up to Ibar to completely control. He is not. Well, that's a bad decision. Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:52 So LFH team is in third. The country's biggest paper, Liston Diario wrote quote, Quidad Trujillo loses three games in the standings, yielding first place, right? Big headline. So then they write a story about it and then the editor is visited by Paulino, the head of the LA fourth. Sure.
Starting point is 01:05:17 In a good way, right? Sure. Yeah. He tells him, you know, fucking chill with the criticism. You're going to stop that shit. Quit reporting things that are so obvious. We don't report the truth about baseball here. Why can't you just say we're in third?
Starting point is 01:05:29 So that's a nice way of putting it. So the paper then writes about Paulino's visit and what he told him to do. And then the publisher is another visit. Hey, listen, you're not supposed to talk about this. That's like part of the thing. Which? Okay. He came again last night.
Starting point is 01:05:50 Look, stop. I just said, I said the thing. Stop it. I said the thing. So last night he came in and he said, he said the thing. Look, please. Just do whatever, man. Just stop telling people, please.
Starting point is 01:06:06 So he's thrown a jail, the publisher. Sure, of course. And we don't know what they did to him in there. He does get out pretty quick and when he is released, he said the paper would lead to his reelection campaign. It's going to be like the voice for his election campaign. He's completely changed his mind. Okay.
Starting point is 01:06:27 I wonder what did it. I don't know. It's strange. Maybe they gave him bananas and a gift basket. Sure. So after this, when stuff would get printed in the paper, people would see it as a threat. They would get a story about you like Gareth Reynolds has been
Starting point is 01:06:43 out saying stuff and you'd be like, oh my God, they're threatening me. So that's what the paper started to be used as. That's cool. Yeah, it's good. As soon as, as soon after an article comes out in the paper, breaking down how the dragonos need to be better. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:01 It said the foreign players were being allowed too much over indulgence. Right. And explain in detail how satchel and his friends were going out drinking and parting until they were completely smashed every night. They were spoiled members of the bourgeoisie. Now it is believed that I bar is the one who wrote the article. It's very, so really this is not a newspaper as much as like a
Starting point is 01:07:32 chast, like a way to chastise. Yeah, it's almost like, you know, teams will put out a game or whatever. Or it's like the way that like sports reporters will be like, I heard from an unknown source. Yeah. No, the guy is the guy. Yeah, it's you. It's you.
Starting point is 01:07:49 Right. So in the article that I bar apparently wrote, it said, quote, that man small and stature, but with the heart and energy of a giant is Dr. Joseph I bar. So he's writing about himself how awesome he is in his own article. He's third person in his article. Yeah. I mean, then it's anonymous name.
Starting point is 01:08:09 So sure. But he signed it, which was a bad move. So in his article, he's saying he should run the team. And then the team manager immediately resigns and a committee is formed called the managers of team discipline and organization. And they name I bar, the new manager. And then the committee immediately announced they were signing four new Negro league players, Harry Williams, Lee,
Starting point is 01:08:39 Warren Madlock, James, cool, Papa bell and Sam bank head. And they would be under quote strict control. And who is going to handle the control? Paulino would handle the control of the team. Sure. Okay. So they're basically. I mean, they're basically getting like the team dad again.
Starting point is 01:09:02 Yeah. They get a team dad. Yeah. A good one too. And not like, I mean, yeah, arguably a bad dad. I'm going to pay him a visit. What? I'm going to pay him a visit.
Starting point is 01:09:14 Why, why the baseball player? Yeah. Why? He's just. That's what I do. Right. But he's just playing baseball. He's playing baseball.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Exactly. Yeah. I'm a little, you know what that leads to. Come on. I've seen it before. No. I sometimes they win. It sounds like someone wants to get on the visit list.
Starting point is 01:09:36 Is that what you're after? No, I don't want to give him the visit list. I'm just saying. You're going to get a visit. No, I'm just, I'm just talking about baseball. I don't, I don't need visits. I don't like visits. Hello.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Like open the door. I know it's fake, but open it. Okay. Hey. Hi. Hey. Guess he's getting paid a visit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:56 He's getting paid off. Otherwise they'll get paid visits. Yeah. So don't talk about baseball. About the baseball players. I'm not a hundred percent what I'm asking for. But you told me that what am I not? What am I knocking off?
Starting point is 01:10:14 Just you're being kind of a dickhead. So, right? Are you not? Don't be. I guess. Yeah. I'll stop being a dick. Otherwise I'll pay them more visits.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Who's them? They're new players, dumbass. Not the old players? Them too. Fine. They're on the visit list. Hope you're happy. God.
Starting point is 01:10:34 I think I'm going to have to visit you again. I just seem like. Okay. So anyway. You are just. I just want the tickets in section C. That's the reason I came by. Are you suggesting you're paying me a visit? No.
Starting point is 01:10:51 I just came here to buy tickets. I'm going to start talking about baseball and then this got weird. I just. I swear to God, I'm like. I'm just like. You having a hard time? I just have a lot of visits to pay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:08 And I just. What I need is like a date book or something because I but. It's hard when you're the visit guy. You know what I mean? Like people don't realize. A lot of people need to be visited. Yeah. And you just get lost with all the visits.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Little niche. I've carved out for myself here. Yeah. I just really like the tickets. Yeah. Yeah. Here. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:11:36 Yeah. Just. Are we the home or visitors for this game? Well, I'll. I paid. I'm the visit. I paid. I'm going to visit.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Okay. I'll find my brain. Yeah. Fuck. Oh. So. Now wherever satchel goes and and the other players. They're followed.
Starting point is 01:12:01 I'm just waiting for satchel's mom to like show up. Be livid. They're followed by Paulino and his soldiers slash gang. That's so every. Everywhere they go. They're not guards around them all the time. Cool. Cool.
Starting point is 01:12:17 So what we did if we went swimming, there were soldiers around where it was out. No bars were to serve them. Satchel quote. The president gave an order that none of the American ball players could be sold whiskey. And we weren't either. It's just the guy that got it would have been shot. He's a dictate. I mean, he's just like.
Starting point is 01:12:36 Right. This is the bad part. He's like a. He's like a soft dictator. Yes. Well, he's. I mean, he's a real dictator, but yeah. But he's like, he's not fully taking advantage of dictating.
Starting point is 01:12:48 Well, he is killing other people. Yeah. But even with them, he's sort of being like, don't serve them booze. It's like, bro, you're like, you can do more threatening stuff. They cut off whiskey. But I think they still want them to play well. If they're all freaked out, they might not. I mean, I think if there's something attract that, I mean, maybe, but again, it's honestly,
Starting point is 01:13:08 this isn't the dictator doing it. This is I bar and the other guys. They're completely in control of baseball. It's autonomous. Trujillo is like, you're going to win. But even then, don't keep me involved. I know. But that's like a weird dictator move to be like, look, look, my fate is tied to it.
Starting point is 01:13:24 But come on, I'm rooting for you. But keep me out of it. Something's on hands off. Keep me out of it. Keep me out of my political fate. So Paulino's med, make sure they're in bed early. Are you guys ready to go to bed? What do you want?
Starting point is 01:13:44 Close your eyes. You guys should be sleeping by now. Lights out. I'm standing up. Sit down. Lay down. Lay down. Right on the floor.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Yeah. Lay down there. Everyone go to bed now. Where are you going to bed? Are you dreaming? Yes. Who's dreaming? Raise your hand if you're dreaming.
Starting point is 01:14:00 Of cows. All right. Good news, sir. They're all in bed. One of them is dreaming of cows. Clearly. They all told me they were in deep, deep sleeps. So, it's such a sense like being in jail, basically.
Starting point is 01:14:21 And then the team next signs Josh Gibson, the black paper. Oh, wow. Okay. So the Negro League is officially just decimated. The name girl is going to start signing white players. Well, no, that would be terrible. And now, now we're getting near the end of the Dominican season, the Trujillo re-election championship.
Starting point is 01:14:45 All 30 games have been played. And then obviously, that obviously coincides with the election, so propaganda is taking off. There's rallies happening. And now the jugonis start winning. Okay. And they go back into first. Okay.
Starting point is 01:15:01 Out of three. The Astraeas fall so far behind, they're mathematically eliminated. So, they're like, so they go, they're like, you guys don't have to play. They're like, you guys don't have to play games anymore. So now it's just the two teams. All right. Your season is now done. So you suck so much.
Starting point is 01:15:17 Your season's done. I wish they would do that in other sports, just like the mercy kill. Look, you guys are really bad. Your season's over. Sorry. That's it. You're out. You guys really, really suck.
Starting point is 01:15:28 Sorry, Jaguars. You are pathetic. Your season ended at seven games. Yeah, it wasn't working. Did you guys see it was working? Nobody thought it was working. So let's just wrap it. It's not like there's 18 teams.
Starting point is 01:15:38 There's three teams. You're like, that one's done. So now you're going to find that the games are probably going to be pretty limited because it potentially will just be two teams playing each other for the rest of the season. So now it's just down to the Jaguars and the Achilles. So the schedule, they go, let's just play a three game series for the championship. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:16:01 This is a season. So the people in the city are fucking thrilled. And everywhere players go, they're being mobbed. The papers are now just writing about every single thing they did. After the last batting practice before the next game, the manager, Dr. Ibar says, quote, you better win. Good. That's good managing.
Starting point is 01:16:25 That's how you do it. That's way to motivate. That's really, yeah. And I mean, and the president, the president feels unable to deliver this message with that nuance. No, because I know he's staying out of it. He doesn't want to get involved. He's got other shit.
Starting point is 01:16:44 He's killing people somewhere over there. All right. Here we go. Interesting outsourcing. Once again, the first game, the Jaguars have a lead going into the seventh. They bring in Satchel to close it. He barely holds on and they win eight to seven. All right.
Starting point is 01:17:01 So now they only need one win to win the championship of Rafael Trillo. Yep. The next game, Josh Gibson hits for the cycle, which if you don't know, that means you get a single double triple homerun. Right. But they still lose eight to seven. Okay. So now we're down to the final game.
Starting point is 01:17:21 The final game. Final game. It's obviously only one out of three packed stadium. People are excited. They play well. They bring Satchel in late in the game to relieve and close it out. They're up eight to three. Okay.
Starting point is 01:17:38 Men on base. Okay. As he walks on the field, he looks over and just sees Paulino's men, soldiers holding guns and long knives. Good. Comfortable. So you're kind of as an athlete, you're able to get into the zone. You're focused on the sport, the game.
Starting point is 01:17:56 You're not worried about anything else. I mean, look, you want to be, you want to have that cool confidence where you can sort of like whatever, you know, just leave it all out there and either way. But unfortunately you're like, but if I lose, I'll probably die. So like. Yeah. So Satchel thinks to himself, he said, quote, they could use them. So he's about as nervous as Satchel Page gets.
Starting point is 01:18:18 Okay. He, he tries talking to himself to calm himself down, but he stutters while talking to himself. That's not a good sign. He, he, he tells himself to pull it together. No. Pull it together. Me. Now he also knows the umpires see the soldiers and if he even gets it close to the plate,
Starting point is 01:18:39 it's going to be called the strike because the umpires don't want to know. I mean, we're all, no, it's everyone's. It's the president table. Let's see. So the first batter, another legal league player hits a single, say to four. Okay. The next batter, another legal league player hits a single. It's now eight to five.
Starting point is 01:19:02 The next battery gets out. All right. Then the best player on their team comes up Cuban slugger, Martin de Higo. He's a fucking ball player. He led the league in home runs. Okay. But he only singles it's eight to six. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:26 And we got one out. Yeah. Well, uh, no, two outs. Sorry. Okay. Two outs. Man on first and third. Okay.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Satchel looks his feet. He tries to gather himself. He feels completely six to his stomach like he's going to throw up. Don't throw up. The next batter is Spoonie Palm. Sure. He hits the ball really fucking hard. And this shortstop makes an amazing play and snags it and gets the out at first.
Starting point is 01:19:58 And the game is over. Ah, I bar runs onto the field. Probably like celebrating like it's an actual champion. Bro, I grabbed. He leads a celebratory parade around the stadium and then the players are swept up by the crowd and taken out of the street. The parade continues through the streets
Starting point is 01:20:27 and then they stop at the baseball team's front offices where a huge crowd gathers and a government representative comes out and reads a letter. Honorable President Trujillo, we have the high honor of informing you of the completion of the baseball championships for the reelection of President Trujillo
Starting point is 01:20:46 with a resounding victory for the sports colors of this city. Baseball has voted. Which is dignified by your distinguished name. Now, he reads that, but Trujillo's not there. Right. Ibar then speaks and then out comes Trujillo's representative, Colonel Rafael Trujillo,
Starting point is 01:21:18 his eight-year-old son. Oh my God. In his Colonel uniform. With his medals. And that held? With his medals. That held? He has medals?
Starting point is 01:21:31 Yeah. This is my finger painting medal, as you'll see right here. Here's one for Dodgeball, my medal there. I'll never forget that. It was a tough semester. Oh, I shot a dog. So I got that.
Starting point is 01:21:45 She's got that medal. Rowing a boat, got that medal. It's been quite a time. Anyway, I'm eight now. I look back on when I was a Colonel at three and gosh, I'll be honest, I didn't even really understand how anything worked. But now I'm eight.
Starting point is 01:22:00 Molder, I get it. And then Ibar presents the championship trophy for the baseball championship of the reelection of President Trujillo to an eight-year-old in a military uniform and the crowd goes wild. I'm not saying we have a good system, because we don't.
Starting point is 01:22:22 But at least there are, at least the illusion is a little bit better. Once you're deciding that your president is going to win because his one team out of threes that dons his name has won the championship that you basically murder threatened the players into and it's presented to an eight-year-old Colonel who's his son,
Starting point is 01:22:48 it's feeling a little like pretend time. Yeah, a little bit. There's a little bit of pretend time for sure. Okay. So now everyone celebrates and Satchel and the guys look around and Paulino and the soldiers are gone. They have just disappeared
Starting point is 01:23:05 and now every single human being in the city wants to buy them a drink. Oh boy. So they are back to normal. They are freedom now that they have. Freedom, freedom. For now, until the next election. Well, so now after that's the end of the season
Starting point is 01:23:23 and the Negro League players all go back to America. Okay. After they leave Trujillo, he goes on a brutal massacre spree. His victims are Haitians. The usual anti-immigrant. Dictators, right. Immigrants are harming his bullshit.
Starting point is 01:23:40 Thousands and thousands of people fucking massacred. As he got older, quote, he was often plagued by fits of incontinence and he became so anxious about his darkening complexion that he began caking his face. Trujillo did? Yes. Okay, keep going.
Starting point is 01:24:00 He began caking his face with pale foundation and powder before public appearances. He's shitting himself, but he doesn't like his complexion, so he's putting on tons of makeup. Does it sound like anybody? Wait, who? Trump.
Starting point is 01:24:18 Oh, sorry. He's fucking shitting himself and putting pancake makeup on. Oh, my God. I mean, it's like if Baron, like if you made Baron a colonel. Right? I mean, a Baron.
Starting point is 01:24:35 Oh, man. You could totally see that happening if you made Baron a colonel. Oh, my God. I think honestly, second term, I have little doubt we'll be like, seeing that to some extent. For sure.
Starting point is 01:24:45 I mean, it does, I mean, look, I do like that we had a president who kept shitting himself. I do like that we had a president who kept shitting himself, shitting his neck. Yes. Yes. That was cool.
Starting point is 01:24:58 That was amazing. Okay. Okay, so in 1961 on the road to... Where's the president? He pooped himself so much, he's going white. He's, in 1961 on the road to San Cristobal, he was shot through the windshield, men surrounded him as he got out
Starting point is 01:25:14 and filled him with bullets. Apparently, Trujillo's last words were, quote, cunt, I've been hit. Oh, my God, Dave. By the way, your last words most likely, right? Yeah, for sure. Cunt, I've been hit. Cunt, I've been hit.
Starting point is 01:25:35 I don't know. I mean, we've heard some good ones. Cunt, I've been hit. Yeah. It's pretty good. It's pretty cunt. So after he was killed, civil war broke up. The Marines, the Americans sent the Marines back in.
Starting point is 01:25:58 The Marines went around taking different houses for positioning and they came to one and they demanded everyone come out with their hands up and out came Ibar, their ally, holding a gun so they lit him up and they killed Ibar. Wow. I mean, obviously, yeah, it's always good when the dictators go.
Starting point is 01:26:21 But then it led to an even worse situation? Well, I mean, look, anything Americans involved with Haiti or Dominican Republic is an absolute fucking nightmare. So Paulino would live for about seven more years and then he would get killed on the streets of Santo Mingo by a musician in 1968. Now, as far as the Negro League players,
Starting point is 01:26:46 they come back, Gus demands that they be banned. His team, however, is still floundering. So the players in their Trujillo uniforms, they find a promoter and they hit the road. No way. Barnstorming for the rest of 1937. As that? Playing exhibition games as the Trujillo All-Stars.
Starting point is 01:27:07 Wow. Now, he hasn't gotten immediately violent yet, so it's not that crazy, but he's still a dictator. So the promoter that they picked was known for gimmicks. One of his most famous was tying goats to each player for a game. I'm sorry. So you're going to not sure how.
Starting point is 01:27:31 Tie a goat to a player and then he's got to play baseball. Right. I'm just sort of, the sport seems to be one based on reactions and you can't explain baseball to goats. So I'm kind of trying to. Don't need to. You just got to make sure that they roll with you and move with you.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Oh, no, these goats get baseball. Don't worry. These aren't regular goats. Yeah, some goats like baseball. Some, there's baseball goats. Some goats follow it. Some goats get it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:55 They probably have a res ball situation. So. For sure. Joe DiMaggio played against Satchel in New York and said he was the best pitcher he ever faced. With all that had happened, Gus still wants Satchel for the next season and still owns his contract, essentially. And we want that goat too.
Starting point is 01:28:16 But Satchel says, we're not paid enough. I'm not paid enough to live on. None of us are. You got to pay us more. Gus tells him to go back to Santo Domingo and this is all happening through the press. They're talking through the press. So Satchel is like, fuck you.
Starting point is 01:28:30 And he signs a contract with the Mexican team. OK, interesting. Gus then has the Negro League, the Negro National League, ban Satchel from organized baseball, which you can't do because they only control the Negro National League. They don't control any other league. So you can't.
Starting point is 01:28:46 So they're like, no, that's not possible. But Composy was like, Satchel can come back whenever he wants. And any team is going to be happy to have him. That's not a thing. So he's in Mexico. Satchel's wife leaves him. He starts having pain in his arm. He tries to pitch through it.
Starting point is 01:29:08 And then the next day his arm is dead. He can't move it over his head. Oh, shit. And he goes to the doctors, a bunch of different doctors, and they're like, you're not going to be able to pitch again. That's it. You're done. Your arm died.
Starting point is 01:29:22 So he's not on the team anymore because he can't play baseball. His money's running out. He starts pawning stuff. He reaches out to the Newark Eagles who had already bought his contract from Gus a while back before he left. And they respond when he reaches out with a press release that was titled, quote, Satchel Page Not Wanted.
Starting point is 01:29:51 But if his arm's dead, I mean, how? He's just looking for anything. He's just trying to get anything. He's looking for anything. So in 1939, he's basically out of money. He thinks it's over. He's like, well, now I'm just going to be a black injured guy living in the South.
Starting point is 01:30:09 He goes up. So then he gets a call out of the blue from the Kansas City Monarchs. And the guy says, I bought your contract and asked him to play on the B team. OK. So he doesn't want to be on the main butterfly, so he's B. OK. He's a caterpillar.
Starting point is 01:30:30 So they're on the developmental team or whatever. Quote, we just thought you needed a hand right now. So these guys just want to help him for everything he's been through. Right. They bill the team as the Page All Stars. It's just a way they know that his name will draw fans. I was just going to say, when Jordan played for whoever,
Starting point is 01:30:52 they kind of took a flyer on him because, I mean, yeah, he could actually play, too. But you know, they did it with Tebow, like there is name recognition. Right, Tebow's a great example, except Tebow was never good. But anyway. Excuse me, sir. If you want to finish this podcast,
Starting point is 01:31:07 you'll eat those words. Good with Christ, I meant. The most talented. Yes, absolutely. I mean, you do have to think it's pretty shitty for someone to believe in God that much and be like, he didn't give me talent. So the pain in his arm is still fucking terrible.
Starting point is 01:31:24 He's playing through it. He just he just can't play well at all. It's just like. Right. It's shitty. Nothing. Right. He's not good. He's super fucking depressed.
Starting point is 01:31:34 It's a lot like in that documentary, Rookie of the Year, when the kid loses the ability to throw the zinger. Keep going. Did you? Did you see documentary? Keep going, bud. So this goes on for months. He's he's like he cries.
Starting point is 01:31:49 One of the guys say he can't do it. The guys just stick through it for a little while longer. And then he starts to warm up for a game. And the pain is gone. Just magically gone. What? He pitches. He pitches that game.
Starting point is 01:32:05 It's great. What? His arm only gets better. The more he pitches now. He moves up to the A team. And they go to the World Series. And the Monarchs win the World Series over Gus's Pittsburgh Greys that Josh Gibson is on.
Starting point is 01:32:30 Satchel gets married again. I'm sorry. Is it possible he just got a second life? I don't under. I don't know how. How does it happen? I don't know. He just pitches.
Starting point is 01:32:40 He just pitches through the pain. Yeah, somehow the pain goes away. That's so crazy. It literally just one day. He wins the World Series. And then he wins the World Series. The World Series is crazy. And again, I really like that documentary.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Yeah, yeah. No, totally the same thing. He gets married. They have six kids. Sure. Now, at this point, there's a lot of pressure. People are like, why aren't there black players in baseball? The reason it happened was because there
Starting point is 01:33:07 was a fucking horrific racist as the commissioner of baseball. And he dies in 1944. And nine months later, the Brooklyn Dodgers sign Jackie Robinson, who is a teammate of Satchel's on the Monarchs. Oh, wow. But the Dodgers refuse to compensate the Monarchs. For Jackie Robinson.
Starting point is 01:33:26 For taking their player. They just take him, right. The Dodgers GM explained why, quote, there is no Negro league as such. Negro baseball is in the zone of a racket. And there is no Negro circuit that could be admitted to organized baseball. So basically just, I mean, obviously just
Starting point is 01:33:47 fully ignoring reality. A bunch of numbers, guys, started teams, black dudes. So he's just saying it's fucking a criminal enterprise. That's all Negro baseball is. I wonder if a bunch of white people did it if it would be a criminal. No, never. The Negro leagues would now be decimated by MLB signing players
Starting point is 01:34:09 and not compensating the teams. The Monarchs lost the most players. And at this point, Satchel is now 40 years old. So no one calls. Right. He watches as black player after black player makes their debut in MLB. And in 1948, the owner of the Cleveland Indians,
Starting point is 01:34:30 a guy named Bill Beck, gives Satchel a tryout. He's very impressive in the tryout. He didn't. They had the best hitter in baseball, who was on Cleveland at the time. And he didn't let him get a hit in the tryout. So Beck offers him a contract. And Satchel then asks him.
Starting point is 01:34:52 He's 40 years old. He's 40. Satchel, or it could be older. So Satchel then asks him. He goes, I'll sign a contract, but will you compensate the Monarchs for me? And Beck is the first guy to send money to a Negro league team to compensate.
Starting point is 01:35:09 He gives him $5,000. Wow. Satchel has his hesitation pitch, right? That's his main pitch. After the first game, the American League bans the hesitant pitch. No. That's the boss?
Starting point is 01:35:21 Which still stands today, because Finn got called for it this summer for hesitating. Now, it's sort of just like taking a little bit of a pot. Like your rotation, your motion just, it doesn't stop. It just sort of staggered a little bit. It's just so slow, but they go, well, you stopped. Then you go, I didn't, and they go, yeah, you did. The Bach is totally arbitrary.
Starting point is 01:35:47 I mean, it's not arbitrary, but there's rules to it. But essentially, the umpire calls it, and everyone else goes, that's fucking crazy. There's obvious Bachs, but it's a really like, if you don't understand baseball, you'll never understand the Bach, because most people don't understand the Bach who understand baseball, so whatever. But yeah, but it turns out Finn can't hesitate
Starting point is 01:36:05 if there's men on base, but if there's nobody on base, he can't hesitate, and then it's not a Bach, whatever. So fucking dumb. And so they, and they change it just because of him. They change it because the satchel page. So Finn can't do it because the satchel page is a black guy. That's why Finn can't do his hesitation page. Right, that's, uh-huh.
Starting point is 01:36:24 Always. Always. So satchel was now forced to pitch in a very conservative manner, so he, Different than what he's used to. The right way, as they call it. White way, sorry, right way. Yeah, they play in the World Series that year.
Starting point is 01:36:41 Wow. He came in as a relief pitcher in game five. The Empire's called a Bach for him wiggling his fingers in his glove. What the fuck? How are you even noticing that? It's just bullshit. It's the way to fuck with a black guy.
Starting point is 01:36:58 It's that fucking- Wiggled. No, you're not allowed to wiggle your fingers in your mitt. Come on, it's a Bach. By the way, I noticed his toes moved a little bit too. Not okay, my friend. So he got the three outs. The whole time he played,
Starting point is 01:37:17 the umpires gave Satchel a lot of time. So that year he went six for one, two, four, eight ERA, pitched in one of the World Series, right? Not bad. He ends up pitching in baseball. After they remove your pitching style, basically. That's right. He ends up pitching in MLB until he's 47.
Starting point is 01:37:35 He made the All-Star team. Jesus Christ. Made the All-Star team in 53. What? Put in the Hall of Fame in 1971, although the Hall of Fame is now absolute bullshit for what they've just recently done. No longer exists. So Josh Gibson, however, never played in Major League Baseball.
Starting point is 01:37:53 He hit 806 home runs, making him the greatest home run hitter of all time. Wow. His batting average was 374. And his career, however, was cut short by a brain tumor. That killed him in 1947. He played for five years with a brain tumor. He didn't want to get surgery because he thought
Starting point is 01:38:13 it would leave him a vegetable, quote. His last season, terrible headaches, incoherently muttering to imaginary baseball players like Babe Ruth, he hit 474 with 12 home runs. What? I'm sorry. And he's talking to Babe. Well, I mean, if you're talking to Babe Ruth,
Starting point is 01:38:33 he's probably giving you some good insight. Yeah, that's a good idea, babe. That's crazy. Yes, so that's crazy. That's the story of Satchel Page in The Dictator. This is from a really good book called The Picture in the Dictator. Satchel Page is unlikely season in the Dominican Republic
Starting point is 01:38:52 by Avril A. Smith. Wow, that is fucking crazy. That is crazy. Yeah. I mean, that feels like five lives. They get mad at, you know, the way capitalism is set up, it's to exploit a worker, particularly workers of a different race,
Starting point is 01:39:19 and then when they seek out something else, they have to go to a dangerous situation. So it's not like there's other safe zones. So he has to go play for a dictator to make the money that he should be making. It's the way. And be shamed for it the whole time. Yeah, and then he's in trouble with the powers to be
Starting point is 01:39:42 because he didn't play by their bullshit rules and take a dollar or a fucking game or whatever it was. It's the same thing, I don't know if people know this, but I think it was in Minnesota, where a old folks home had a bunch of workers and they were offered more money to go work for a different old folks home. No, it's Wisconsin.
Starting point is 01:40:00 It's Wisconsin, and they took it, and then a judge barred them from doing it. They got sued by the first one, and he barred them, and it's like, yeah, that's what happens to workers. That's why everyone should be in a union. Everyone should be in a union. But that is like, again, I mean, Wisconsin continues to lower the bar for what is acceptable.
Starting point is 01:40:23 And they just like, yeah, they basically, they walked, and were taking other jobs. So imagine you work a job. Imagine I find a better podcast, not hard. And I am gonna go there, and I'm gonna work with this other guy, let's say, and he's awesome, and he's way better than you. And I'm excited, because I'm finally gonna go
Starting point is 01:40:45 experience what I've wanted to experience, and enjoy myself and be able to do a show that's just fucking great. What's happening? And you, let me, I'm explaining, because I feel like maybe people aren't understanding. So I decide I'm gonna go to this kick-ass show, and I fucking fired up.
Starting point is 01:41:02 I mean, I am, like, I broke the hinges on the door I left so fast. And you go to a judge, and the judge is like, no, you gotta still do the dollop, and then I come back here, and I gotta work with this fucking asshole. You're on our permission to treat the coheses hostile? No, you're not, no, denied.
Starting point is 01:41:18 Permission granted. Do not grant it to yourself, you're not allowed to do that. One more outburst out of you, one more. I'm having fun, baby, I'm having fun. But really, I mean, it's beyond taking away the rights of workers. I mean, that is workers expressing themselves through the system of capitalism,
Starting point is 01:41:40 and you're like, that's not playing capitalism how we see fit. Well, it's the same thing as right now, over 200 people in Congress, Democrats and Republicans, both support putting a cap on nurses' wages, really. So your system is, because they're important, you wanna keep them in a certain place so they can't make as much money
Starting point is 01:42:00 doing this travel and their stuff, but the CEOs get to make 500 times what they make? Endless, endless. It's just like, fuck off. No, I mean, it really is getting to the point where it's just like, they're just like, they're saying you don't even get the bones anymore. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:42:19 You know, they're just, they are just, they need to be stopped. But anyway, this is a story about a five-dictator baseball team. So let me wrap up by saying something. I wanna say something to people. There's very much a manufactured consent thing happening about masks in this country.
Starting point is 01:42:38 The vast majority of people still want masking for safety. We're all saying a lot of stories and the media is acting like that's not true. Every poll says most people want masking. No, if that's what you want, you are actually in the vast majority, and you're not crazy. It's just simple, very simple science.
Starting point is 01:42:58 There have been studies that have come out that have said masking doesn't help. They are nonsense. They are absolute fucking lies. And they've been, you know, I've watched scientists tear them apart. So it's manufactured consent. It's the same sort of people
Starting point is 01:43:13 that took us into the Iraq war. It's the same fucking scenario. You know, the people who say we need to just go back to normal are given all the microphones and everyone else is not given the microphones and that's all that's happening. But you are, if you feel that you're crazy and no one else believes it, you're in the majority.
Starting point is 01:43:35 By far. In every poll, by far, you're just not being given a microphone. So everyone should know that because I know it's very gaslighting and very upsetting, but know that you're right. Know that. I swear, sometimes it seems like
Starting point is 01:43:50 they want to do what we don't. That's kind of weird. Wow, that really is a wild story. Well, I love you, man. I love you so much. We're not, we're doing it like that. It's not who we are. It's not who we are.
Starting point is 01:44:11 Not who we are. I love you so much. Not who we are. I love you, Dave. It's not who we are. I love you. We're not those people. We've never been those people.
Starting point is 01:44:19 I love you. I love you so much. No. This is last, this is the last podcast on the left shit. Kind of. People got, people were all, were they throwing shade?
Starting point is 01:44:30 Were you guys throwing shade to us? No, I just threw a name out there that wasn't our podcast. Everyone calm down. We don't, we have no problems with last podcast. There's not animosity, nothing. We're all good. Everyone just take it easy. There's beef.
Starting point is 01:44:43 A lot of people looking too deep into stuff. People were, there's a whole thing on Reddit about how you and I aren't getting along. Everyone just calm down. Everything's fine. Everything's good. We're all good. I think you need to leave the comments alone, Dave.
Starting point is 01:44:54 That's what I think. Fuck you. I think you need to just do the show. Are we still recording? Fuck you. Yeah. I think you just need to do the show. Son of a bitch.
Starting point is 01:45:01 Don't ever do that. I love you. Shit. I love you. My favorite Dave's angry, Dave. We sign baseballs.

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