The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 530 - 1923 Police Riots - Live w/Wil Anderson
Episode Date: April 26, 2022Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the 1923 Melbourne Police Riot. Recorded at Hamer Hall live in Melbourne. Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch Sponsors: Jordan Harbinger ...Show Trade Coffee Diet Smoke
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Apple Podcast Spotify or wherever you listen to podcasts. January 8th, 1853.
That was really close. That was really close to the made update I just pitched.
Was it? Yeah I was like January 4th 1883. That sounds like you're lying now. What
year is this one again? 1853? This is a great point in this story that's
throwing random numbers. Oh I almost got it. I'll get there. The Victorian police
force was founded when parliament passed an act for the regulation of the police
force. I love Australians pretending we're not a nation of cops. Yeah anyway
hotline is somebody having a party in their backyard and I I think that's
against hybrid regulations anyway. Is that guy wearing a merkin? Originally they
yeah had merkins. Nice it's a great look. So this was this the act for the
regulation of the police force established the Victoria police force as a
single statewide police authority for Victoria. That's the jailhouse. You're
not gonna get out of that unless you try a little bit. Or if you just pull the
ladder down. Well yeah that ladder is an interesting call for sure. You didn't keep
a ladder on the side of your roof. Absolutely.
Honestly I'd be like yeah I'll commit a crime to go in there for that. That's a
better than my house. They'd be like oh it's got a kitchen to boss. So the cops
were all given a pension in 1882 the public service did away with the pension
for other public servants in Victoria but the cops still kept theirs. Nice. Yeah
fuck yeah. Yeah. The constables who are low-ranking officers the cospers are
just like they're the ones who yeah they said they spend the nightsticks. Wait
what? Yep. They do what? They spend the nightsticks. The constables. All right
all right they're that guy. What's going on in there? It's none of them. That's it that's it.
Yeah yeah. This guy doesn't know any fucking history. He's in the driver's seat. So the
constables were not treated well. They worked seven days a week 47 hour weeks.
Well what's going on in it? And they did that and they had bad pay compared to the
New South Wales cops. Okay. The government thought they should be paid the same way
as quote lower grades of trades and callings. So like you're you guys are
also shit. They were like your cops but you're are you any different than the guy
who lays cement down. And the answer was no. It's nice. Yeah. So they had to pay
for their own uniforms. And then in 1902 the state removed pensions for new
recruits. So if your new guy coming in no pension. The old guys are like fuck off.
Right. That's cool. That's when it would be good for them to go on strike but
instead they're like that sucks. Yeah. Yeah. So the current cops are grandfathered
in and this would create quote a place the police force in exactly the same
position as the rest of the public surface service with respect to pensions
and retiring allowances. So they're like let's get back to where everybody had
nothing. Right. We believe in equality. Nobody has anything. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Which is nice. Yeah. And on top of all the new cops without a pension were ordered
to get a life insurance policy. So nice. Become a cop. You had to have a life
insurance policy. So you had to pay for that. But you didn't get pension. Sounds
like a bit of a shit gig. Yeah. It does sound like an industry where they've
discovered a lot of people aren't making it to pension age. You might need something
else to supply money for your family. So the system creates two classes of cops
those with pensions and those getting fucked by the government. OK. You could
have said without pensions. OK. Unless that is actually something that
happens. What's going on here then. Sergeant Richard. Sergeant Richard Porter
testified quote as soon as the non pensioners got into the majority there
would be trouble in the police force. They are not subject to the discipline of
the pensioners. So by 1920 a lot of cops are starting to call for a strike. And
over the next 20 years cops also have a lot of complaints. Single cops had to
live in barracks often with 10 men sharing a room. Jesus. It depends how
single you are. Like it might be cool. That's quite a move. OK. Describe by
trying to be in the night. You're like I want to play a little case to hide the
moustache. You've been the detective. You tell me where I've hidden the moustache.
All right. All right. What's going on here. Well. Well. Well. Ready to bust this
case wide open. Your pants must be taken down and used in evidence against
you. What's going on here then. Find it. Because it was on his butt. Oh shit.
Oh shit. OK. I didn't realize that. I was on his balls. The room was described
by journalist Michael Adams as quote less habitable than the stables
enjoyed by police horses. The cops said the rooms were worse than the
prisoners cells which was bad because the cells at Fitzroy were called quote
verminous. That's bad. Right. Yeah. The cops quarters in Carlton had no
furniture and filthy walls. The roof leaked. The cops used their coats as
blankets and there was no ventilation and they had to run 50 yards across a
square from the showers to the barracks. Toilets. Why did they have to run. Go.
Go. Go. Go. Can I walk it next time. No. It's because they were naked. I don't know
why they would. So I mean. The ropes haven't been invented. Also still worse.
Like if you saunter up to the door and then just sprint balls out across the
yard. That's still worse. Just own it. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Why can't you use
your coat to get to the showers. You can use your coat to sleep on. Well. Do you
have a towel. There's no towels. Towels. I don't think there's towels. That's why
you're running your air drying. Most people drive themselves off with their
hat. Oh right. Sure. No. They just use their mustaches on each other. Thank you.
That ain't my turn to you. It doesn't make sense why they look like that
because they had to wring them out. The toilets were adjacent to the
kitchen. Soup smells nice. What's that lentil. Oh. It's a lot of salt isn't
it. Not judging. Just having a poo. We should. We should put it. We should put
a door in. You know what I mean. We should put a door between the kitchen and
the. Wow. I just don't like cooking here. I thought I'd be better but there's
always a. I could put my jacket over my head. It's just like a parakeet you're
trying to put to bed. I'll think it's night time. That's a lot of salt mate.
Yeah. And I don't need any. I don't need any comments from the shit gallery. You
know what I mean. Like just take your dump. Quietly. All right. And then let me
cook over here. I'm just trying to. Well I'm all done so I'm about to go run it
off. Pardon me. So the force is a mess. Sounds great so far. The chief
commissioner in 1921 was major general John Gallibrand. That's right. He
wanted to expand and reorganize the force. He's like let's fix this thing. But
anything he tried to do was thwarted by the government. And then he made it was
the very model of a modern major general. And then he put together this big
recommendation report and he took a holiday to Tasmania and while he was
there he found out all of his reforms had been rejected so he just never came
back from vacation. Nice. So nice. That's a great way to quit. Yeah it really is.
He should have been back two weeks ago. It's very strange. So on February 8th
1922 Alexander Nicholson became the new chief commissioner. He's 59. He's a
lifelong administrator. He was described as ordinary and inflexible. I like how
that's considered ordinary for the time. It's regular to not change. Perfect. What
a great Tinder bio. 59. Four miles away. Fuck it. Let's go. Fuck it. Fuck it. I
have nine roommates. I think we should probably go to your place. Can you tell
me where your share is? I need to run to it. Would you like to lay your jacket
down or shall I do mine? For coitus. You'll find the moustache. When I go down
on you don't worry I will wear the helmet so there's no biting. For conilingus.
You know they could never mind. So he spent most of his career working in the
Ballarat which is a much smaller city 115 kilometers west of Melbourne. Okay. You
got that. Yep. Yeah. That's no idea. Nicholson was considered a very very are
you still working on the. I just realized I'm going east so I got to kind of
read. Got it. Okay. Yeah. You know. Yep. Yep. 115. 115 kilometers. Yeah. Yeah. I'm
aware. West. Okay. Yeah. Okay. Got it. Yeah. I got it. Beautiful. Yeah. It's nice. Very
nice. A lot of kangaroos and stray dogs. Large rats. Okay. So a lot of people
considered Nicholson a very odd hire. Many believed his close relationship with
the Chief Secretary and the Minister of Public Health had got him the job over
qualified candidates. Hmm. Strange. Yeah. Never heard of that. His first change was
to get rid of all regular meetings with his superintendents. Yeah. Smart. Yeah.
Don't know if you don't if you don't hear the problems. Yeah. That's the way to do
it. I think there's one thing we've learned. Turn your back on the issues and
they go away. So it's not happening. He stated quote I did not see any necessity
for it. So he basically cut off all communication with the guys who know
when some when there's problems. I'd also make them drop the super and just make
them in attendance. Yes. Yeah. Getting their heads a little bit. It's a little
hidey. So now as I said if you want less polio you just got to stop testing for
polio. Absolutely. Yeah. Correct. So you do it. This doesn't work anymore. Out of
sight out of legs. Feels like it's okay to do that. It's sometimes some time is
passed. I mean we're in a small window between when polio was bad and it comes
back. Oh no. I leave me in Malambimbi almost already there. So sorry. So when
any console had a complaint there's no chain of command now to get to Nicholson.
Yeah. So if trouble arises he's not there to discuss it. Put your message in the
bottle and we'll throw it in the ocean. Nicholson also set up a system where four
special plainclothes cops would monitor the rest of the cops. But did they
plainclothes are they undercover. They're they're spies. Okay. They're
not just like we're just wear regular clothes. They're watching the other
cops. So they're like we have four new roommates who are here like we're a
band. Yeah. Like when you say they're undercover cops are they dressed as cops
because like the other cops are just buying their own uniforms as well. Yeah.
Or are they dressed as ordinary people and infiltrating the cops. They're dressed
as ordinary people. They're just like how are they befriending these nice
mustache. Yeah. We're kitchen separators. Well get on in here boys we need that. So
the constables started calling our van broke down and we're looking to live
near some guys. We're in John. We're not in. We're cops. That's not how cops. Whoa.
What's that like. Is that crazy. No. Wow. We're just a group of guys. We're a band.
We play a lot of songs. Kind of weird stuff considering the era. Yeah. I don't
I've never heard of a band. Oh yeah. We play music like at the same time.
Different instruments and hope that it goes together really well in an
arrangement. Any who's will be. We should probably live here. Oh my God. What a cool
idea. I don't think so. Yeah. No. We'll just learn about you. We're in.
They've just got like skin over their mustaches. They got no idea.
They're wearing like overalls over their police uniforms.
I'm fucking hot in here. I'll tell you that much. So the constables started
calling them spooks because they haunted the officers at all times. Okay. The
spooks were instead of having normal supervisors. So he got rid of the
supervisors and then he would only listen to the spooks. So he just like
created a much more intense environment. Yes. Like it's right. A horrible. Right.
Yeah. Right. Spies instead of bosses. Since you're all being treated like shit.
What if we now spied on you? So Nicholson explained why. Quote. I saw men
idling about the streets. Leaning up against lampposts. Oh boy. Gossiping.
Ah. Actually smoking in uniform in broad daylight. I saw them drunk at night. I
repeatedly went along a very considerable distance and saw no sign of a
constable at all. One constable was caught in a warehouse in uniform. He had
broken into the warehouse with the watchman. Another constable was found
was stolen property in his possession. But the constables all said that it was
quote humiliating espionage. They felt it was dramatic and overreach of power. And
the constables also had issues with the men that they had picked to be spooks.
Right. The spooks were mostly men of mediocre ability and little experience.
Nice. So yeah. Good cops. An excellent middle management. Perfect. Exactly what
you want. They included Nicholson's brother-in-law. It's kind of awkward. And
an officer twice busted for drinking on duty. So he just said he'd seen cops
drinking on duty and he wanted someone to watch them so he got a guy who drinks
on duty. Well he knows what to look for. Yeah. Yeah. Knows where you're hiding
the bottle. He knows all the good boys. The guy had defended himself by
saying he wasn't drunk but he just had a terrible temper. Well that's it. I mean
there's a lot of good covers for being drunk but saying you're angry is a
really good one. Probably what your father was. Don't take your glasses off. My dad is
dead. I know. I know. I know but. I honestly thought for a moment that was
like the toilet thing and it was just opposite in Australia. Real sad. Your
dad was dead down under. But every time I come to Australia I get really sad. My
dad died. But when I go back to America I have parties. So. Right. Oh he said he's
also said the men besides just saying I'm not a drunk. I have a bad temper. He
said the men who had accused him of being drunks were Mormons. Sorry. Masons.
Masons. Except same thing. There's a big difference. There's a difference. There
is. Yeah. What did you say they were. They're Mormons. I got. They're Masons not
Mormons. Yeah. But who cares. That's all the same. Yeah. Why should Masons probably
care about it or Mormons depending on which which is weird. You can't just say
they're the same. Yeah. Masons found the gold plates in a building and Mormons
found it in the underground. Yeah. If it doesn't one have a secret headshot. The
Masons. Yeah. The Mormons have crazy underwear. Yeah. So it's so it's completely
different you idiots. If I said what you just said you wouldn't let it go and
you're going like come on let's move on. Let's hurry. Let's just go. Let's go.
What's going on. What do you guys want. It's what do you want. It gets all
stuck on this thing that I said. It's just weird. It's weird that you made that
mistake. It is weird. You're right. Please come and say my musical The Book of
Masons. It's a completely original concept that I came up totally by
myself. You know we have in America we have a whole state that's just all
Masons. Mormons. Dave. The country's all Masons. You fool. The character of another
spook was said to be quote very bad. Sure. Good quote. Short. Yeah. Good. The cops
started complaining bitterly every single day about the spooks how they got
the job and how they operated. So the cat is out of the bag as far as these
these undercover cops now they know that these four are just monitoring them. So
it's. I can actually say why you chose this story for the Melbourne comedy
festival because is this the origin of people complaining about reviews or is
this point break. Thank you. Oh. This is the origin story. The guy are the are
the guys who are monitoring them. Are they still pretending that they don't
know what they're talking about or is the cat fully out of the bag. Well they're
just watching them on the street. So they're just following them like shadows
falling around. Yeah. Right. Like a ghost or a spook. Yeah. Sure. Or a Mormon or a
Mormon. Mormons are like shadows. That's right. They go away at night. I'll get
into Mormon stuff later. That's when they do the weird stuff. You know what
they're like. Marrying a bunch of people. Masons. Right. So now this is coming up
at superintendent meetings about how upset the cops were about the spooks
because there were no superintendent meetings. And Inspector Thomas Kane who
had ordered the spooks to wear plain clothes was in bad health which caused
him to have a quick temper. So no one wanted to talk to him. He was just
drunk. Yeah. Nicholson thought the spooks were going to be in uniform. But again
no meetings. He didn't know. No mostality. But anything. Sure. So frustrations
are boiling over. No one seems to care. Cop bosses don't care. The press to the
public. It's just like no one's listening to the cops. The Victorian Police
Association is also useless as whatever they were. Not a union but it had been
around four years that they've been around. They had done nothing. Memberships
going down. They'd gotten a small pay raise for married cops but not for
single cops. It's so weird. Why is that because there's probably more married
guys. So they just don't give a shit about that. You should get married. You
get more money. It's still like a weird. I mean okay. Yeah. But like the the
married policeman. He has like responsibilities at home. He has to
take some money home for his wife or his like a single policeman. He's got
nine roommates. He's saving on fucking costs. He's probably sharing a coat with
another guy. Yeah. He doesn't need all this money. What does he need. A little
mustache oil. That's it. Yeah. Fair. It's like the 10 Stooges. Yeah. They're
just sleeping and they're like like that started it. Okay. All right. Fair. So
Nicholson had started on good terms with the Association but a few months later
it had fallen apart and he said it had become a quote wild orgy a nest of
agitators. Fuck yeah. Found it. Yeah. Nice. Get in there. I'll watch that one.
That's our band name. Wild orgy of agitators. Yeah. We're in. We're in. He
named specific union men. Nicholson did. He just he just pointed some out and said
they were behind any trouble that was going on. Cops on the other hand felt
the opposite. Many thought the Association was quote a mutual admiration
society with leadership that lacked ginger. Like ginger. It's always a
problem of redheads. Yeah. That can't be what. That would be amazing. Nobody's
ever thrown gingers at the problem. You know we need. More gingers. We need some
gingers. Did you say ninjas? No. No. We can't see the sun. Our dad made us do
things to help. Freckles. You're right. So only 62% of the force were in the
Association but that's because it wasn't effective at all. Most most of like
militant guys are not in the unions. They don't think it's doing enough. So on
February 8th Nick Nicholson purged the Melbourne licensing branch and
transferred 17 plain clothes cops to uniform duty. Awkward. One was Constable
William Brooks. So Brooks is a very respected cop. He has a great record.
He's got a lot of commendations including one just two months before. So for two
years in the licensing branch he had busted illegal bars and saloons. Just in
case we forgot where we were. Yes. That is actually a noise made by one of the
spooks as we call them. He's watching other Australians making sure they're
drinking. So now after all those years he's back on the beat right? Okay. He's
very angry and some said after the transfer Brooks is a completely different
man. Like literally a completely different man? Like did they suspect that it
just might have been a different man? Hello I'm Daniel. I mean Billy. You look
six inches shorter. You've got a mustache and one eye. And a peg leg. Hello I'm
Clark Buchanan. Shit. Well Brooks you sound like a different man. With a
different name. He's a child now. I'm seven. Just get in your position. I'll
call the spooks. I don't know if that's the direction we want to go in. I thought
he was gonna boo. Yeah but don't beckon the sounds from the crowd. Do we want to
go in that direction? It's a call and response? No. It's like the Rocky Horror
Picture Show. What is happening right now? Is anyone? The audience acts out. What?
Huh? No. Not us? No no no. Nope. Well that guy's got a mustache. I like how he
raised his hand. He does. I told you. Yeah I see. Nice. It's interactive. Yeah
fuck yeah. Cup. Beautiful sir. Way to go. Cup. Another cup. It would be great if
tonight was the reveal that Garrus has been undercover this whole time. I like
him a history major. Yeah. You've been sent here by a group of history professors. I teach history.
This guy doesn't know what he's talking about. Look I'll go out there and pretend I
don't know shit for one more year but people think I'm dumb. I gotta fuck
around anymore. Really Dave? And when were cars invented?
1899. Women couldn't wear pants? He keeps saying 1900. What do you mean 1800? How
long do I have to let this go on? Is this like another example of 1821
job series? Yeah. He wants to start another history podcast. This is fucking
embarrassing. He keeps pretending it's a different show. It's clearly just like
another show the same exact reason. I'm in too deep. He thinks if we don't shout
the date it's a different show. It might be. Just don't do the date and everyone's
at the start. It's different. Well we do do a date. You can call it the dollop
unplugged. No. Another cop James Dunn asked why he was transferred so they
charged him and find him. That's how it's done. Man that's pretty strange. Don't do
that. I'm gonna have to write you up. I'm a cop. That was James Dunn right? Yeah
but he resigned. He was furious. Dunn was done. Yeah but they memorialize him in
law and order. That's where they got that Dunn-Dunn noise from. That's right. Sorry
took me a while to get there but I... That's fine you got there. That was pretty
quick. Brooks did not. Brooks instead got loud. He started a petition to address
cops concerns. He did not get the union's approval. It started quote comrades and
fellow workers. That's not gonna go over well. Right. I mean is that not just
repeating the same thing too right? It is just comrades are fellow workers.
But maybe a lot of the cops are probably pretty dumb so he's gotta
be like that also means like fellow workers but if you're not... To commemorate
their stupidity they probably did the Dunn-Dunn. Yeah good. So sorry. Yeah man I
appreciate you coming back for me. Give me your hand. You know what? Like I threw
something out and you came back. Give me your hand. Let's make this into something
as opposed to Dave at the fucking airport. One sign of trouble he's like I'm
going to Melbourne. I don't know what's going on. Good luck Gareth. I'll get someone
else. I was talking to a smoke cloud of Dave for five minutes. I was like wait
he's not even here. The fuck? He loony tuned me. At one point you asked me to
wave to show you where I was and I did. Yeah you were in the airport. So this is
what happened. I was texting him and I was like I'm over by the the what was it
international check-in area that shouldn't exist and and he was like I'm
in another line at another check-in so I thought he was in the building and I'm
like no come over here and we're texting back and forth for like five minutes and
he finally goes wave so I'm in the airport waving. He's not in the building.
It was my revenge. That was my revenge for the whole day. Keep waving I see you. I
keep losing you in that guy's head. Wave higher. Do a double jump both arm wave.
Pull your pants down and scoot like a dog that has worms. I almost am there. I
think I see you. So so Brooks letter demands the removal of the
spooks that they get pensions and decent pay. By fall 700 cops had signed. Some
asked for the language to be changed like on the petition. Yeah okay like
accusing the chief commissioner of Prussianism. Prussianism. We all know.
It's when you're here I'll go in on this one. I don't know what it is. Why didn't
you explain it to me asshole? Like an authoritarian dickhead kind of. Oh.
That's crazy. So the press starts writing. The press starts writing that a
strike is coming. And Nicholson said no it's not. But now he agreed to put the
spooks in uniforms. He's like all right. So awkward when they're in uniform. How's
it going? Good. Who are you? We weren't a band. I hate to tell you. It's COVID.
Cool. Is this how the police band started?
That would be fucking incredible. That would be amazing if that's what this was.
What are you doing? I'm on a sting. Wait a second. Hold on. Officer Best? Move over
there a little. Don't stand so close to me. I mean going up to the street workers
like Roxanne. You don't have to put out that red line. I know. I feel bad for her.
But do the Prussians love their children's?
So he puts the spooks back in uniform. Oh right. The spooks then complain. They're
upset. Then Nicholson promised to get rid of the spooks and they were all gone
on June 5th. It'd be great if you just put them in plain clothes again. That's
essentially what he did but he made them regular cops again. Oh so they're
okay. In July the police asked for more pay in pensions and the government
refused and is concerned about a strike. So the president of the
Association met with Premier Lawson. So the president of the Association assured
the Premier that there was no rumor to a strike who's not one coming. Sure. Even
though it's a wildcat strike that has nothing to do with the Association. So the
Victoria Treasurer was super proud of not giving the cops anything. He thought
pensions were overly generous schemes. Oh man. You can tell he thinks that. He was
a rich hardware merchant before entering Parliament. He was all about the state
showing a surplus and believed public money should not be spent for any reason.
A great politician. Yeah. That's amazing. Well that guy should be treasured. Yeah.
Why wouldn't he be? He didn't care about the strike talk. He was like whatever. It
doesn't matter. So naturally he would become the Premier in five years.
Brooks was transferred to Geelong licensing branch. He lived at Pram. Pram. Pram. What
do you say? Pram? He lived in a pram. Pram? Is it pram? Was he a baby? Yep. I want to
jump in but I can't. So it's about an hour away by car. So. How long by pram? Seven
hours. Wow. That's a lot longer. That's like an exhausting. So Brooks refuses to go and
then he is charged and suspended. Okay. He's charged. Okay. So they hold a hearing and
Brooks had the option of making it public or not. So he says he wants it public. And
he says I wasn't good enough for the licensing branch in Melbourne but I was sent to another
licensing branch in another place. So that doesn't make sense. And Nicholson responded
that he had outlived his usefulness in the city but he's fine in the shitty the other
place. Yeah. Where you don't have to be as good. I say that you're being very careful
about not suggesting that Geelong is a shittier place in Melbourne but go all in. That's fine.
That is I think the crowd will be on your side with that one. So I don't need to tap
dance around that one in the way that you were doing in my opinion. Well they lost last
night. So I didn't know. They hurt the other team's giant. I was watching the game and
I was like fuck that's their giant. You mean the cop. No the Hawthorne has a giant on
their team. Hawthorne has a legal giant. I think every team has one giant. One giant.
You're allowed one giant. Sometimes you have like a second giant. You can get another giant
but this this team only had one giant and then they broke them. They broke. So their
giant was broken. And this is a sporting event. Yep. Okay. And you watch this. I watched
it in the hotel. I would have loved to. I was on a plane. Right. I texted Charlie and
I said I'm watching. I'm watching the AFL in Melbourne and he said no you're not. So
what kind of friendships I have. So the charge gets dismissed after all that and Brooks goes
back to his uniform job in Melbourne. So he wins the thing because he stays in licensing
in Melbourne and not in July because they can't justify it. That doesn't right. So Brooks
tells a friend he was going to quote cause a lot more trouble. His friend was like this
is a mustache out of here son of a bitch. Then Nicholson brought the Spooks back. That's
very awkward at that point to be like all right. I'm confused now at how many times
the Spooks have been on or off. The same group of Spooks. Yes. Oh my God. They're not Spooks
anymore. They're out in Spooks. Let it fucking go Spooks. We're a band now for real. That
whole cover story inspired us to become a band. It probably isn't even the entire original
lineup. Like it's like two or three of the original Spooks and then a couple of young
people session Spooks. Are you fucking kidding me with Sammy Hagar. Yeah. Yeah. We just know
all their songs and need a break. So days later Brooks is wrapping up a night shift
and his replacement is 15 minutes late. So Brooks sees him walking over and so he gets
on a tram and leaves because he's like oh he's walking towards me. I can see him and
a Spook sees it and reports it. Right. Leaving early even though you're late. He's fine.
He's fine. Five shillings. So at this point the community doesn't like how much is that.
At this point the community does not like the Spooks. So random people are now telling
cops what the Spooks are up to. So sorry. The Spooks on the Spooks. Yeah. There's Spooks
have created Spooks. The cops went around and told everyone what the Spooks looked like.
So now everyone is watching the Spooks. And the Spooks are probably a little spooked by
that. But the Spooks are still watching the cops. But the people watching the Spooks are
reporting to the cops. That's right. Right. So they're the cops Spooks watching the Spooks
who are there for the cops. Right. Right. On October 21st 1923 the Argus newspaper reported
two Spooks reported two cops because quote they had drunk a cup of tea near Queens Bridge
with a wharf shed watchman ten minutes before the shift ended. Was it October 31st did you
say? Yeah. Well that is the traditional night of Spooks. And that wharfman was probably
just in a costume. I'm actually a Spook but I'm off to a party. Who's Spook? I'm a Spook.
Yeah. Right. Yeah. I know. Yeah. It's not like. And I'm a wharfman. Okay. What noise do you
make? What noise do you make? Whoa. Nearly. What was the second one nearly? What is that?
Get the rope. Get the rope. Nearly and get the rope. That's. I'm a wharfman. Okay. I
just thought they don't seem like normal wharf noises. Yeah. It's like I'm seeing like. What
are you seeing on the last one? The. I'm getting wet. So close to the water. Yeah. That's.
So when you get wet you go. I didn't see it coming. Just a costume dude. So that day Brooks
said to a friend quote I am full of the bloody job right up to here. His neck. Right up to
his team strength. Yeah. Because blood can't go past here. I cannot stick wearing uniform
again. So it wants to be a Spook. Yeah. Or a wharfman. Or a dancer. Sure. He called the
meeting with 20 29 other night duty cops before their shift at Russell Street. So they vote
and then refuse to go on duty. Okay. And Nicholson and Superintendent Kane came and used threats
and arguments to try to get them to go on threats and arguments. Yes. Nice. It's to
go hand in hand. They push back on the threats. There might be an argument. Nicholson threat
was in that order. The other order is the better order to go in which is have the argument
if that doesn't work go to threats. Yeah. I like the idea they've come in with threats
and that hasn't worked. They're pushing back for some reason. It's infuriating. So he threatened
to put Brooks in a cell which didn't help the situation. And then Nicholson called for
a hundred recruits to come from I guess they're like knew they're like police Academy guys.
Right. They're going to take over the beat. Well of course he wanted them. There was like
a real tall guy. There was a guy with a funny sounding voice. Yeah. They had a giant. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A lady with a funny voice. A lot of funny voice people. The sound effects
guy. Well I can tell they locked him up. I heard the cell close. All right. Well the
car started so I should probably get out of here. It was like in a helicopter. He went
far too. I heard him just went over the hills for sure. So the hundred recruits show up
but they immediately side with the strikers. OK. So that's good. Yeah. We're also on strike.
Wait but no that's not the plan. Well OK. Nicholson gave in and then he agreed to remove
the spooks for the night. For the night. Nice. Quite a concession. And he set up a meeting
between Brooks and the cabinet the next day. You mean the place where they kept like the
utensils and pots and stuff. That's correct. Yeah. Near the toilet. Near the toilet. Yeah.
I'm on duty. So at twelve forty five and the cops go back to work. So they're on strike
for about a couple hours. What a strike. The next morning the Sun News pictorial reported
that for two and a half hours the entire police force was just a few plainclothes officers.
So the next morning the spooks are all reassigned. So that's it. The spooks are gone. Really.
So they won right. I don't know. Like based on the patents I found these spooks will be
back. Yeah. They're going to die and come back as ghosts. Yeah. Well they did win but
they didn't because Nicholson and the other the cabinet they didn't want to tell the
strikers they'd won. So they kept it secret. So they conceded but didn't want to tell them
they conceded. So nobody wins. Interesting tactic. And that was the strikers only demand
before returning to work. So. So they go to meet the next day where Brooks goes to meet
with the Premier. Yeah. And the Premier tells Brooks that they have to return to work unconditionally
and that they would bring out retired cops and ones from the country if the strike flared
up again. Country cops. Wow. Here we go. Yeah. Or as we call them in Australia blue healers
yeah. Exactly. Girl. Yeah. The Premier actually. I get it. What we know about Australia is
there's a lot of crime in our country. Weekly episodic crime for like 20 years. Yeah.
The Premier actually met with Brooks twice on that day but both times did not tell him
the Spokes were gone. What is the tactic. And just they want they want them to go back
to work without thinking they won anything. So there's just just ego. I don't. Yeah. I
guess they just don't want to think that they were able to be like that. The Premier publicly
said he backed Nick. Can you just say the name of the leader of the state again one
more time please. Which state. What is that P word that you can. Premier. Premier. What
just happened. I don't like. I don't like inside jokes while I'm on stage. Now you know
how I feel. All I'm saying is if you said what you've been saying we'd all be like are
we going to the movies. Oh we're making fun of you. How do. How do. What. What different
way do you guys. It's the bloody Premier night. We're all laughing at you. I'm I'm sticking
with the Premier. The rest of the show meet me just trying to say it right. It's a good
bit. It's just too long. It's too long. It's just going to take too long for me to try
to figure it out. I think he just told you. Oh no but I'll keep fucking it up. OK. Yeah.
Yeah. No I like the way you say it. I wasn't I wasn't even anti it. I just like it. Yeah
when it's fall it's the season premiere. Yeah. That's right we're all on the same page. Absolutely.
The Premier publicly said. Better. So close. Yeah. He backed Nicholson and Brooks and the
men then voted to strike the next night. Smart. So now he's like good. Perfect. Just how we
drew it up. Then Nicholson comes and tells them all to go back to work and it'll all
be forgotten. If they don't they're fired. But never tells them the good news. Does not
tell them. He's sticking to his gun. The thing that will end the strike immediately. He's
not it's not interesting tactic. So he tries to call roll but the cops move into a dark
area of the courtyard. They're spooks. This is a loud smotum. Yeah. Yeah. We'll just hold
in the shadows. They've vanished. Hello. They all just completely disappeared. Here I am.
Hello again. What. I heard something. Hello. How did that happen. That's the officer who
makes those noises. Premier. Premier. What an idiot. I guess they're all gone forever.
So they actually went into the dark and then they just started hooting and jeering and
yelling obscenities. They turned into owls and swearing parrots. Curious. Just like yelling
obscenities directed at them or just general Nicholson. Yeah. Yeah. Like all right. After
he said their name because that would be helpful. Probably. Fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. Yes. Noted.
I'll take it. So Nicholson thinks it's just a small group of upset cops. So he fires.
He fires 50 cops right there. Oh but I can't see your fire. So more cops at other stations
start learning about what's going on and they start walking out of their stations at the
Russell station a crowd of about 400 cops now gather outside. OK. Now fired now fired Brooks
is gets in a car and is driving from station to station trying to talk cops into walking
out. Yeah. OK. So hundreds are joining him. It's a big car. Yeah. Is he a clown now. Yeah.
This is about the origin of clowns. Finally a story I'm enjoying. The police force was
reduced to a few plainclothes officers loyal constables and long term police with big pensions
who are forced back into active duty or else they take their pensions away. Wow. Yeah.
So night. Good vibe. Super cool. Yeah. One of the pensioners like a couple of years ago
telling me you were getting too old for this shit. Yeah. But I'm back. Apparently I'm back.
I was. Still am. It's been 10 years. Now I'm really too old for this shit. I don't know
where I am. Why is it so dark. It's so dark in here. Who am I. A lot of us have turned
into owls. Yeah. We're on strike. No you idiot. Oh. So confused. I'm 90 in the eight early
nineteen hundreds. So old. One of the pensioners was directing traffic at Swanson and Bork
Streets when Burke. Is it. Just just so we know where we are. I just read it the way
it's spelled. And you said it like you were the Swedish shift from the Muppets on the
corner of Swanson and Bork. Bork. Bork Street. How would you say it. Bork. Bork mate. Gotta
ignore that fucking O in there. You gotta ignore the O. It's Burke. Burke mate. Yeah. Jesus
fucking Christ. Mate gotta be honest with you. It's the O and the E aren't doing much
work. It's nothing. They're on strike. They're just standing in this darkness in the corner.
Don't feel bad as you're first out saying it. It was the premiere. No I. I always forget
which letters they ignore on the streets here. So it's hard. Street. Oh I thought you meant
like in the streets. We're not doing vowels. Whoa the streets are crazy. So where was it
again. One of the pensioners was directing traffic at Swanson and Bork Streets. When
he was surrounded by hundreds of angry people. So cops and then other people that have gathered
I like the other people are like we're just gonna go downtown and shout. He retreated
into a nearby shop shop and backup arrived and it all turned violent. So the cops in
that group flee to the town hall police depot and the mob follows him. One cop opened the
door and tried to talk to the mob but he was pelted with eggs. I mean that is still a traditional
Australian way of expressing your displeasure at leadership. Yes. Good to see that a hundred
years were still like egging people. It'd be great if it was egg guy or whatever. It's
him. You know it was actually great grandfather. It was actually egg boys great great grandfather
which is a great joke except that in the time since you've been here he's been cancelled.
What did egg boy do? Egg boy is a milkshake duck. He's into QAnon and stuff now. Well
we had a hell of a run. Bad egg boy now. The egg guy went into QAnon. That's another
dollop for another day. It's so disappointing. Why can't we have heroes? Egg boy. It was
tough. It was tough as a nation for us to lose egg boys. Damn it. Can't believe in anyone
anymore. So the police sprayed the mob with a high powered fire hose. Full of eggs. Full
of eggs. And then they charged out with their batons. View arrests were made mostly just
beatings going on. Nice. Good cop work. But by 1 a.m. the city is quiet and police have
full control of the streets but they are very worried about the next day. So everybody boards
up shops. It's just I cannot get past the fact that they don't have any plywood and
they're just using like two by fours. So okay. And are those cops? No. Those are just people
who are like why is everything shut? Do you guys remember stores being here? What year
is this? I just want to be first back in when it reopens. No hold on. It's still a bakery.
Just got to take this wood down. There's still pastries. So it's do you say Derby or Derby?
Why don't you just say it and we'll laugh at you. Derby. Derby. How is it? Derby. Huh?
We're done. You were right. Day in Melbourne. People poured into the city for the big horse
race. The crowds are bigger than normal because of the riots. A lot of people came to see
the chaos. So the horse race is like the opening act. Right. Right. People are like
hey I'm going to the horse races and they're like I don't really want to go and they're
like there's going to be riots too. Well can do. Let's go. Yeah. They all want to see
the riots. Okay. So that morning 700 cops met at Temperance Hall and they have a big
meeting. The association leaders are there but they boo them. Anybody who tried to speak
from the association got booed and Brooks is in complete and total control of the meeting.
They would start chanting what do you say Brooks when a vote came up and it depended
on whether or not Brooks shook his head yes or no if it would get passed. A lot of pressure.
So the government put together a special committee of super rich guys. Nice. That's a great way
to handle this. This is very much like Christian Smallson and the son. Yeah. Yeah they seriously
they found all the wealthiest guys in town. They're like you guys will be a committee
and everyone's pissed. We need to get a bunch of rich people involved. That'll help. So
the committee called for a special constabulary force. All right. All right. What's going
on here then. Who we're known as the specials. We're a band.
Their job would be to support any loyalist cops. So there's a support group. Support group.
Over 300 were sent from local banks the military and Navy men. They lined up on the streets
outside town hall to get interviewed and get the job. So it's essentially a militia. Right.
And then they also brought country cops in. Uh oh. The premier primary would now only
meet association leaders. The group of the temperates all sent a bunch of non temperance
guys to meet. But the premier refuses to see them. So he'll only meet with the association
leaders. So they go in to talk to the premier and they talk about the spooks. But again
spooks weren't even fired. What is the what is their problem. I don't fucking know. It's
a really weird thing to just like it's like pride on a level that it's it's a problem.
Yeah. But like to recap the spooks have been fired for a while. And the thing that will
resolve this entire issue is the firing of the spooks. Tell them. And they just won't
tell them that they fired the spooks. There's been an egg fight. Egg boy got canceled. He
believes in QAnon. A lot has happened since then. Everything's boarded up. They're like
see this through. We will not concede. We conceded like two days ago. So the government
is still not telling him and Nicholson. They're talking about spooks in this whole meeting.
And Nicholson acts surprised. What. When he's told by cops that spooks hid behind trees
and bushes to spy on them. The spooks hid. Wow. That's crazy. They were just supposed
to be your pals. Huh. Well we're keeping them. So the premiere. Getting further away. Said
the cops were fired and they never be hired back and only loyalist cops would be paid.
So he tells the press what's happening was quote mutiny. And trading has joined the strike
meetings now and the government called them quote cats paws of the revolutionaries. Nice.
Yep. For sure. Sure. Like is that an insult. Well. Because cats paws are like I was gonna
say delicious. They're absolutely delicious. Cats paws are delicious. Little pink beans.
Yum yum yum yum yum. Yeah. That's quite a reveal there. We'll dip into that after.
So at the police depot the cops were angrily scolded and given a half hour to decide whether
or not to walk which caused most of them to walk. Well yeah. And then the association
published a resolution calling for all the cops to go back to work. But they're all like
fuck off. So the crowd swelled. And then there's other people that are there now for the horse
races for the races. Right. OK. So many of the specials and and the country cops showing
up don't know what's going on. So they're just they see a crowd. Well they're surprised
they come rolling in like I'm a country cop and then this whole fucking crowd of thousands
of people starts pulling them. Oh. Oh. And they seem very shocked to be called scabs.
OK. But then then the number of scab cops dropped because the strikers would talk to
them and then they just joined. So. So cut your cops are coming in getting yelled at
called scabs. They're like I'm not a scab. Fuck this. And then they just joined with
the strikers. So they're just making a larger protest movement for something that they're
no longer doing. And for some reason they'd never be more united around something that
is completely unnecessary. Like what a tremendous waste. Yeah. What's the plan.
It's not even to bring the spooks back. The plan is to just quietly. OK. Sure thing.
So the crowd is playing a big part in the recruiting cops who joined the strike are
met by cheers and those who didn't are booed and cursed. By 3 30 p.m. only three constables
remain on the corner of Swanson and Burke. All right. All right. All right. Well. For
those of you listening Dave Waved. No sir. No sir. How dare you. A dozen constables were
then sent. But the crowd was now over two thousand. So they sent 12 constables to two
thousand strikers. Right. At five. Many of them ex cops. At five p.m. a hooligan punched
a constable repeatedly. Yeah. And then those cops moved in the whatever the 12 with batons
and the situation quickly deteriorated. What do they expect. Like 12 12 of them are like
we've got to stop this. There's two thousand people who hate you surrounding you. Yeah.
So you're just like beat him. So the mob chases the cops off by 6 p.m. the mob is totally
taken over. Yeah. They then pulled a tram from the tracks. All right. Now now the fun
started. We've got rid of the cops and we're going to fucking roll a trap. It's now a world
strongest man event. I'm sick of this going in a straight line. Moving the tram. Don't
tell them that we conceded. They've moved the tram. Old. Old. What's your deal. I don't
know when to stop stuff. The age quote it and a few minutes later the driver had been
struck by some 10 or 12 men. The driver was still on it. It was like guys guys guys that's
not a stop. I can't turn. He was pulled from a stand thrown to the roadway and trampled
upon. Oh rushing at the attackers. A civilian. There's a lot of crazy shit that's happened.
His heart broke for that. The tram driver is just like I mean he's just doing his job
like he's not an enemy of the people. Well he was tram. He could have been like ringing
his bell. Like it could have been anything. Very likely. By the way tram pool did not
get enough. Thank you. Respect. I think we need to go back to his tram. We can do it
again. He was pulled from a tram and tram pool. Thank you. We'll cut that part out and
we'll just piece together mine and then write it. Okay. We'll do it in post.
Rushing at the attackers a civilian met the same fate had his false teeth smashed and
his nose and face cut with blows from the maddened crowd. Expecting trouble the city
had ordered all bars closed at 6 p.m. This is at like 5 30. Thank God. Then right when
the violence started hundreds of drunks came out of pubs. This is like the first ever
flash ball. In England they used to close pubs at 11 p.m. and the fighting that would
have like they had to keep bars open for the safety of towns eventually because everyone
would be furious at 11 p.m. and exit a bar and you just see people like throwing pint
glasses at each other. This is a good call. This is it's a good energy on the streets.
Well many of them came out armed with bottles and glasses. They probably didn't even know
what the fuck was going on. They're just like holy shit. Yeah. Kill him. I don't know who
him is. We got a tram. Oh what big city living now. So almost immediately projectiles are
flying beer. Bricks metal people are hit blood is everywhere. Nice mobs form when the windows
of Leviathan a big department store were smashed with an axe but tons were handed out and patrols
were formed. So this is all the specials. OK. The looting began men fought hand to hand
in the street. A group of sailors fought to protect property. Some battlers found refuge
on the stage in the middle of a theater royal performance. We're a band. They just went
on stage in the middle of a show and this is a safe place to hide from. Sorry about
it. Can you imagine like if we were doing this show right now and then just some people
came on and went shit is crazy out there. People just rolled a tram out the front of
the art sentiment. We're looting a department store if you all want to. Hello. How's the
show. How cool. Who else is up. Calling for more volunteers. The mayor said none would
suffer financially. So he's saying if you if you whatever common help. At no point is
someone like should we just tell them. Like they pull the tram there. There's got to be
a point where this lie has got out of control. Yeah. For the people who know about it. They
just like none. I can't get worse than this. Oh shit. It got worse. Hey. You just want
to pitch again. Maybe we should tell them. No. Hold. Hold. This is right. So when he
says never know no one will suffer financially. This led to a ton of guys expensing the city
city. A lot of people expense blankets. So they after they came to act as specials then
they would buy shit and be like. So it's a write off. I bought this blanket and a toaster
for the riot. So I need money for that. Obviously. Don't have receipts for a lot of stuff. Also
I bought a tram and it was damaged during that. So you need money for that. I think
what else. My false teeth were ripped out of my head and smashed. Those aren't cheap.
So yeah. So that's it. And they took my dignity which I don't think you can really put a price
tag on. But I have. That's zero. I have put a price on it. If you'd like to. We actually
don't think you had any. Fifty thousand dollars. No. So we'll have to talk to everyone you
knew before the blanket to. We'll pay for your blankie. And my tram. That's not your
tram. I lost nine eggs in the whole thing. Why were you carrying around eggs in a riot?
There's this guy named Q who. He's actually a good guy. But he has some wild stuff. But
a lot of it has been proven. You know how JFK Jr. died in a plane crash and I'm air quoting.
Yeah. Well my man take a seat. He's alive. I'm sitting. And now looks like a ventriloquist.
So judges are now roaming the streets. Are roaming. Swearing in special. No. Like judges
are just down there going up to specials and going. You're a cop now. Yes. Just really.
They're just random O thing. They're randomly finding guys on the street and like do you
want to be a cop. All right. There you go. Put your hand on that. All right. Do you swear
that you will fucking try to stop this shit because it's so crazy. Holy fuck. All right.
You put about him. I know he's drunk sir. But it's completely illegal. They're not
allowed to do that. But that's what they were doing. I mean it's. You think we should tell
him yet. So people are looting the grabbing whatever they can. So the streets are now
littered with broken glass empty cigarette cartons empty jewelry case displays at 7 p.m.
around 40 pensioner police and country constables were sent to Swanson and Burke with instructions
stay together and when you hit hit hard. I'm 80. I broke my arm hitting hard. I know Leon
just trust me. This is going to work great. I love that it is. It is the police pensioners
in the country cops. Just it's like unlikely. Yeah. Normally my crimes are about chaos.
We don't know anything. We forgot everything we do. Get them in boys. What's happening.
My arms separated when we did that. All of ours did. Oh dear. So they use searchlights
on Navy ships in the port to illuminate streets. The government just continues to recruit men
to join the police. And those efforts took a bizarre and desperate turn. Further. Finally
these stories got a little bizarre and desperate. These are dogs that are cops. All right. There
we go. They requested that managers of theaters ask men in the audience to volunteer as specials
tonight but it's the night of the premiere of all the nights to request such a thing.
Do you have any idea what a premiere is? It seems like you don't. Nearly 200 men responded
at Hoyt's pictures alone. So that means they're at the movies. Yeah. Yeah. And they've just
gone. How does anyone want to be? Excuse me. I know you're all enjoying the movie which
might be about cops. It might not be. Anyway. We're looking for cops. Great. You sir. You're
now a police officer. There's a judge roaming the streets. He'll swear you in. Yes. You
too sir. Can I beat the shit out of people? Absolutely. That's what we're looking for.
The senior citizens are your teammates and so are any cops and overalls. Yes sir. Can
that be a spook? No. There's no. I mean we still have spooks. Fucking close. We still
have them. Never got rid of them. That's what this is all about and we still have them.
The fuck is going on again. But that means that while the whole fucking city is being
torn apart there's just people in enjoying a movie. Yeah. I enjoy that choice as well.
They've just gone. It's crazy out there. I'm going to go and see a movie. Yeah. Oh I don't
want to join the police force. We'll never get the tram home. So cops stop trying to
arrest protesters. It's too dangerous and the mob is forcibly freeing people who are
arrested. Yeah. You're under arrest for freeing. Oh boy. Instead the cops just started beating
everyone. Oh yeah. That's smart. Yeah. The specials started driving around in cars for
quick attacks. The beatings really got going when the specials were put under the command
of World War One Hero General Sir John Monash. By 930 with him taking control. Monash. Yeah.
What is it? Monash. Just how you said it. Monash. Let's hear what dumb way you say this
guy's name. Not at your clothes. Monash. By 930 the police are in control. The streets
are quieted down. The hospitals are overwhelmed. Hundreds of people with head injuries and
broken noses and broken bones. Did they bang on pots for him? That's all they need. On
Sunday cabinet holds an emergency meeting. We might need to get rid of the spooks. We
did that two weeks ago. Now 600 strikers march to demand they be reinstated and the cabinet
refuses. 2360 specials have been sworn in. Well it's too many. You guys were really going
for it which we appreciate but my God. Newspapers are praising them while at the same time calling
them quote brethren of the baton in the same paper. Okay. On Saturday three people had
died 400 injured and 55 arrested. And one tram ruined. Ruin. The armed forces were brought
in on Sunday armed with rifles and bayonets. Soldiers and sailors guarded government buildings
including the banks and the treasury. Gawkers came also. People who wanted to see the fun.
Over 100,000 people came to see the riot damage. 100,000 visitors. That's a major tourist
attraction. It's the biggest thing in Melbourne. If you get 100,000 people there you tip over
a tram or two. The final big battle happened that afternoon. Why more? Hundreds stormed
Russell Street near police headquarters leading to a three hour war between the mob and police.
The older batons that they were using ran out. Ran out? It's empty. It's blanks. It's
just rubber now. They're giggling when we hear them. Reloading. I'm 90. I assume they
broke. Right? They had to have broken. They did say they are old batons. They must have
broken. The specials switched to broom handles and short hoses. Those will last forever.
Broom handle. Perfect. Now those broke. A group of ex Australian light horsemen rode
into the city. This had a profound effect on the mob because the horsemen were war heroes
from World War I and the street fighting instantly stopped. We love the bloody light horsemen
in Australia. Bloody got to the bloody Sydney Olympics opening ceremony, didn't they? The
bloody light horsemen. We bloody love them. They come into town on their bloody horses
and we're like, that's why it's got a bay little dollar. Everybody stop. So by late Sunday,
the city's under control. Over the next week, there were still sporadic small skirmishes
around town. I like to think that one of the old guys with the baton that was out was like,
please stop. And then they rode in and everyone stopped. He's like, thank you. All you needed
were words from me. A learned elder. Oh shit. Okay. Sorry. Poopsie poopsie. The Argus and
other papers blamed the writing on criminals, including those who had no records but had
quote, criminal minds. Right. Future criminals. Futures. But the truth was the vast majority
of those arrested had absolutely no criminal record. So the paper, the papers also blamed
communists for the whole thing. Oh yeah. Always perfect. Yeah. Good. Went in doubt. Absolutely.
They're right there. Fucking commies. The government refused to hire back the fired police. On
November 12th, the specials were disbanded, but offered to be part of a paid force. So
they were a band. That's right. A lot of businesses had sent staff to be on the force, but they
almost all threatened to quit immediately due to bad pay and quote, excessive militarism.
Jesus Christ. The guys. I mean, yeah, it's honestly absurd. Yeah. Like they're like,
ah, this is shit pay. That's why. No, no. We're on strike. Oh my God. I gotta get down
to the cinema and get some records. We got a hire. There's a bunch of guys that aren't
working right now. Do you need us again? No, no. We're ready. We've all lost a limb or
two. And our batons are out of ammo. And we're not sure what's going on anymore. But we've
got a ghost tram. So that's pretty cool. The new guys also did not like being marched
in the rain. Meanwhile, these scabs are the guys keeping the fired cops from getting their
jobs back altogether. 850 of these new semi cops are hired. They were still hired under
the unlawful assemblies act. They're cheaper than cops because they needed less training.
Yeah, right. Yep. For sure. That's cool. That's where the term on special comes from. That's
right. And now they could put recruits in this force before they became cops. So before
they had recruits working the way to be cops and now they're just, you guys are just kind
of cops. Right. These new guys, it's like they're creating a really shitty police force. Okay.
Right. Nice. But a lot of the cops didn't want to work with scabs. So fire them and don't
tell them. No. No. Oh, I was like, what the fuck? Look, we've got our tactic. Do what
they want. Never tell them lots of people die. It's pretty good.
So some scabs had been previously rejected from the department for crimes. And others
were just being bad people drinking on the job became a serious issue. So all the guys
that had previously been rejected are now cops. Uh huh. The police had to explain to these
new cops to only take out their batons when it was an emergency and to stop whirling them
over their heads when driving through crowds on patrol. It may not seem like it might,
but they actually wear it outside. Don't worry, these aren't loaded.
I mean, what great cowboy by have you two? What about this is intimidating? Oh my Lord.
Goodbye. In the assembly, a legislator in the assembly, a legislator called the new force
quote deteriorated badly motivated by self aggrandizement and miserable weeds unfit to
perform the duties of police. Perfect for cops. The specials were harassed and attacked
on the street when they were recognized. Some couldn't get jobs and got death threats.
Their houses were vandalized. Workers threatened to strike if specials were hired in their
cities. Some specials finally started telling their stories to the papers and the government
strongly backed them and helped them get jobs. All right. The Commonwealth government prohibited
the export of any riot newsreel footage. Nice. They saw it as a black eye for Victoria. Soon
the police strike was largely forgotten by the public. It's not there. Well, like COVID.
In 1808, over one third of the cops went on strike. Not one got their job back, but the
strike led to significant changes for future cops grievances were taken more seriously
and acted upon swiftly. On May 1, 1924, the pension system was reinstated. Constables were
given better wages and increased annual leave and the spook system was gone. Yeah, but it
had been gone. Yeah, gone the whole time. So they finally were like, it's been gone for
a while to down. What do you think of that? But they ended up losing on everything else.
So they could have just said, yeah, the spooks are fired and then everything would have been
resolved. But instead, they had to give a pension. It's quite a tactic. Yeah, to give
them everything. It feels like Nicholson was maybe a spook for the rioters. Whoa. No one
knows what became of Brooks, but the Royal Commission on the riots painted him as a bad
man and a bad cop. But that's pretty dubious narrative. They basically created a disgruntled
leader and paid for it. But that's how your police force got pensions. Is that the story?
Is that what we just learned? Yeah. Well, that was easy. How the Victorian police force
got pensions is what we learned. Yeah, pretty straightforward. Fucking hell. Pretty straightforward
stuff. Seems easy. Yeah, people with money are cool. Yeah. You know what? You know what
I've learned out of this? We just got enough volunteers from this room. Yeah. That would
be amazing. We're one tram away. Yeah. I mean, like imagine if like, because I mean, how
many people in this room will we need to like tip over like a modern day tram? We've got
the numbers. Yeah. For sure. But like, even if like, like, would it be like 200? Would
200 people tip over a tram? No, less than that. I mean, I feel like when we get like
a nice amount of booze in you guys, you sort of hulk out. So I feel like 200 tipsy Australians
is plenty. We could lift it over our head and take it like some to another state. I'm
not going to make you do it if you clap your hands, but clap your hands if you would help
tip over a tram. Oh, yeah. Okay. We got heaps. That's fine. We can tip over every time we
see who's not clapping and we're taking note. We've got old guys to replace you if we need
to. That's right. It does remind me of Amazon with Christian Smalls, though. Like Christian
Smalls, the guy who was blowing the whistle about their COVID protocols, they fired him,
made him sound like an agitator, and called them dumb in emails that were released. And
now he could not be a bigger thorn in their fucking side, who's now starting unions, not
only just in one Amazon factory, it's like on the news constantly being like, yeah, we're
just getting started. And Jeff Bezos is like, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. It all
starts with one guy getting mad. Yeah. That's really what happens. And then that guy starts
and then in this version, it would be that Jeff Bezos has given Amazon employees everything
that Christian Smalls wants, and he just won't tell him. Yeah, I mean, it gets done.
Hold, hold, hold. Yeah. Yeah. Well, normal shit. So that's how the police were started,
the band. Yep. Oh, no. Like, buddy, are you listening? You just summarized it 30 seconds
ago. Right? I'm playing my part again. Don't forget. Fuck. Well, thank you, everybody for
coming out. It's a pleasure to be back. Give it up for Will Anderson. Dan Anthony. Phenomenal
to you back. So thank you very much. Appreciate it. Farewell. Sources for this episode of
the book Days of Violence, the 1923 police strike in Melbourne by Gavin Brown and Robert
Haldane. Also the age newspaper and the New Zealand Herald newspaper.