The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 536 - Captain Thunderbolt - Live w/Wil Anderson

Episode Date: June 7, 2022

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds are joined by Aussie comedian Wil Anderson to examine politician Captain Thunderbolt and Mary Ann Bugg. Recorded live in Brisbane. Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch  

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and sign up, Everlane, helping people live their best lives with the least impact on the planet. May 7th, 1834! Year of our Lord, Jesus Christ. Jeezo. Look at you up there. Help! Jeezo. Jeezo! What you doing, mate? Just hanging out? Jeezo! I love that somebody went, oh, I had that, like, too soon, guys. Don't poke fun at him. Just spears. Mary Ann Bug. Mary Ann Bug? Mary Ann Bug. Was born near Gloucester, New South Wales, unless it's Glauchester or Gloucester. Fuck off. New South Wales to James and Charlotte Bug. Charlotte was an aboriginal woman. James was an

ex-convict transported in 1825 for stealing two lambs, a sheep, and two pigs. Wow. At once? That's a hefty... Maybe. I didn't think about that. That's like that boat riddle. I bet it was at different times. I bet he was like, oh, I learned how to steal a sheep, now I'll steal a pig. Yeah, right. So hang on. So, like, a shape, a lamb, a pig, two pigs. Two lambs, two pigs, and a sheep. Two lambs, two pigs, and a shape. So we got sent here, which is one way to get here. In 1834 he was granted a ticket of leave, which is, which we would call parole. Okay, thank you. After a bit he was overseeing the Australian agricultural company's

outstation in Barraco. Okay, that went well. Yeah, you don't, don't pause so much after you... I'm scarred. I understand, but it's just, just keep moving. Just don't even... It's no, it's no different than someone has been taking a beating for years. Now they come in and they're like, yeah, yeah, that's how I am on this show. Yeah, sir. Thank you. Young Mary grew up with the threat of violence around her. Soon she had a little baby brother. A higher up decided in the company, a higher up decided it wasn't a great environment for children where they were living. And her father James agreed. A note was sent to Commissioner Damoresk. Quote,

bug wishes his Georgian to be brought up so as to ensure their abandonment of their savage life. Wow. Because they're living out in the, you know, the bush at the station. So the commission ordered the kids to be separated from their mother. Nice. He said she wanted to quote, elevate them above the barbarism of her tribe. Okay. Good. Keep... This is not, not particularly comedic. You've certainly brought up a few things that we as a country have been having a hard time dealing with. The removal of nading children from their families. Something happened. Yeah. No, no, no, no. That's a real black armband view of Australian

history that you're... We don't have that sort of thing. At all. We don't have. Yeah, we don't have that at all. We all celebrated over a big dinner when the Native Americans agreed to give us all the land. Yeah. And so chill of them. And then they were just like, they went away. They're like, took off. Yep. And they've been happy with us ever since. Yep. Because we've done a really good job with it. Yeah, yeah. Nothing but respect. They were supposed to go to an orphan school at Paramatta. Nice. Did I say it wrong? It doesn't parameter. But again, these kids are half Aboriginal kids. Right. So enrollment was delayed. They were like,

whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Finally, James dropped Marianne at a school in Sydney. So she's five and he just drops her off there. There you go. To learn domestic... What time will you pick me up? No, that's not part of this. She learned domestic skills to read and use numbers. And she returned home when she was 10. Wow. Cool. Cool, cool, cool. Awesome. So she has a formal education. She also has learned like Bush life skills, right? Right. She's kind of like half in both worlds. Right. So she could slip in and thrive in both places and Marianne then married an ex-convict when she was 14. Jesus Christ. That's what you do. He was 40. You want to do some stand-up? He

was what? 40. Oh my God. It's just the joke you're flying. Yeah, I know. I'm like, they've stolen like an Indigenous kid from her family, taken her to the city. And I'm like, okay, but I'm sure it'll get fun in a minute. Yeah. Anyway, she married a guy who was three times her age. Yeah. The Mrs. Doubtfire joke doesn't seem that dangerous now, does it? Pretty fine, doesn't it? So she had a girl named Helena and then somehow for some crazy fucking reason this marriage did not work out. Wow. Shocking. It was over by 1850 and then she found a new man, John Burroughs, not an ex-convict. Just an immigrant from Liverpool. Worse. A shepherd

and a gold miner. So they had two kids. How old is she now? So she's probably around 16, 17. How old is he? I didn't catch his age. Okay. I assume. Let's just say he's 16. Yeah, great. All right. Now we can have some fun. They had two kids and moved to the Mudgey district. So she had another daughter, but in 1856, but Burroughs was not the father because the father was an ex-convict Irish Catholic guy named James McNally, only 20 years older. So she runs off with him and they have, and they get a farm and two kids. And then she gets pregnant again, but by a different guy, she's a fucking having a ball. Yeah. I mean, I bet she can't

whine until she's, I tell you, and really have some fun. Yeah. So she's on her fourth dude in 13 years, which is super not normal for the time. And there's speculation in the book, Captain Thunderbolt and his lady, that short relationships are married. Sorry, what's his name? We'll get there. Okay. Just her Captain Thunderbolt. And obviously, I'm excited. Oh, you will be. Short relationships were Marianne's choice. So she's different. She's like, likes, she's not hanging around. She's like, well, you're fucked. I'm gonna go over here with this guy. This convict seems like he's got a good thing going. Yeah. Right. Also, a

couple of our husbands were probably dying of natural causes. So she's different. She she kicks men in the curb and she moves on. Right. Her new dude, Fred Ward. Nice. There we go. Both in the mid 20s. So they're the same. There we go. All right. Fred was a currency lad, a colonial born dude. Sure. Yeah, that's what they call them. Currency lads. For sure. Lado. He'd worked at stations since he was 11. He was a very skilled horsebreaker. And in 1956, Fred's nephew, John Garbutt, well, he was the leader of a horse and cattle theft ring. And so a few of Fred's ma fam members were in it and Fred got into it. So soon into Fred and

two of his nephews are stealing horses and doing the business and end up getting a 10 year sentence of labor at the cockatoo island prison. They serve four years and got ticket to leave. And John went and quickly married a widow who was 16 years older. Oh, okay. Fred's other nephew was in court on theft charges, but was acquitted because of quote, unreasonable behavior by a jury member. Oh, that's the best where you're like, man, I'm fucked. And then you're like, that guy seems a little off though. I might I could work to my advantage. Do we know what the unreasonable behavior by the jury member was? We do. We do. Oh, good. The

juror told the judge quote, I'm too drunk and too sleepy when that's an Australian court for you. I'm too drunk and too sleepy. We all are. We are speak for all of us. We found the jurors intoxicated. We should remove the bar from the courtroom. And then bloody passing it. So he said that when he was told to look at the stolen items. Look at these items. I'm too drunk. I can't. I won't. And at the time he yelled out quote, I want a match to light my pipe. Finally, we have a hero. So he was drunk. Yeah. He also refused to accept James Gilt and wore down all the other jurors. The other jurors were listening to the

drunkest guy. They were like, Jesus, I just want to get out of here. This guy is, you know what I mean? There's no way he could have done it. Look at him. I'm very convincing when he's sleepy. Yeah. Yeah. So, so John's ticket to leave was eventually because he got off from that. So, but his ticket leave was canceled when some stolen sheep were found in his in his flock. Now Fred meets a lady while working at Cuyall Station. Marianne. And she, Fred got her pregnant by 1861 as well as what happened. Why don't you just let us know when she's not pregnant? Might be easier

on you. The lady likes to fuck. Well, it's beyond just fucking. She likes to retain. It's the medical term. They actually named Cockatoo Island after her. Absolutely. No one in America knows what just happened. They're like, because of the Fred took her to her father's farm and they're do don't do don't don't don't know. Don't go. Better don't go. Don't you doing a cockatoo thing, right? Don't know. Are you guys going to get rid of the G and say don't know? What do you say? Fuck that. Dungog. Okay. Dungog. To deliver a baby. Wait, sorry. Where was

it? Dungog. Okay. Thank you. I said it right the night time. Yeah. So Fred took her to her father's farm near Dungog to deliver the baby even though that meant his ticket of leave would be revoked because he's not supposed to leave his area. Right. So he wanted to they wanted a farm birth. Yes. Right. At the not just a farm birth, not just like take her to a farm, a specific. His father's father, her father's, her father's. So he did it for her and then he raced back, but he got back too late. And he was arrested on three violations, two for leaving and one for having stolen a horse because he was on a story. He was in a rush. He was

trying to get back fast. You know what? Hey, no, he's a drunk jury member. Oh God, please, please. I say he's innocent and I would like some biscuit. During the trial, the horse's owner said he had lost the horse five months before and heard it was running about. I heard my horse was running about. So Fred. So how the fuck is that a stolen horse? Like Fred found it. It's running around. Yeah, he found a wild horse. Yeah. And then the guys are well, that's mine. That's mine. So he got three years and had to serve the six years from his previous sentence. So he set it off to a prison for nine years. Prison's a nightmare. Fred now

leads a work stoppage and ends up doing 46 days in isolation. So Marion had the baby girl a couple weeks later after he was put in jail. Wait, she hadn't already had it? Well, yeah. And he just left her there and raced back. He got her to the farm. It wasn't even like, he thought, okay, I thought it felt like it was gonna be birthed at the farm. But he is, but he left her there. Right. He left her to birth it. Yeah. Right. As a man does. Right. Right. Yeah. And if it happens on a farm, then it pops out and it starts kind of walking right away. Like, yeah, I get how it does. Okay. That's why you do it at a farm. Right. Yes. Yep. Because if you

don't, if you're doing this city, they just roll around. Yeah, they need a lot of care. Yeah. Yeah. So Marion has the baby two weeks later. She's now on her own with three kids. I guess the other ones are older. What about the other 15? Maybe they're older now traveling band at this point. They're not there. Okay. She got a job for the first time ever as a domestic servant. And on September 11 1863, Fred and another prisoner, Frederick, Britain escaped. So it's an island. It's not that big of an island, right? No, no, it's small, but they couldn't find them for like five. They were looking for him for five days on the island and searching everywhere. And

they're like, I don't know. There's no way they could have gotten off here, but they had gotten off there. So the sitting heart, the sitting morning, Harold finally announced five days later that they were on the loose and it was printed all over the country. Six weeks later, they robbed a shepherd's hut. Well, the wife was the only one there when they robbed it. And there was a car too. There was like a strange noble aspect to it. Fred quote, we wanted the gun and bacon. We what? We wanted the gun and bacon. Fair enough. Yep. The usual list of demands. Give us the gun and bacon. We won't rob the house as we merely robbed the rich and not the

poor. They also took some tea and sugar. So they took a gun, bacon, tea and sugar. Right. Very because I don't because I don't rob the the pool. That's correct. Right. They robbed this billionaire. The man who had everything. This guy's like the king of the area. Yeah, they went to the king. They got around the moat and the guards and the drawbridge. Well, ain't you living fancy? Yeah. I got that in my bike in a tank. We're taking it. Three nights later, they tried to rob a male coach. So they ended up being a gunfight. Now cops at this time in the area were taught how to ride in cavalry formation and how to salute but not how to shoot guns. So they

were taught to hold the salute versus hold the gun. Right. It's a lot of pageantry. Right. Which is important for the police. How do I look? Fantastic. Nobody will dare come after us. Look at how great we look. Synchronized gentlemen. Haha. Christ. They've shot eight of us. We've lost 13 men. My God. My bleeding out. What the fuck? What the fuck? Hold your salute, boys. Hold it. Hold your salute. Hold it as long as you can. Sooner or later, they'll understand this tactic will pay off. Oh my God. It's a bloody massacre. Oh, oh, fuck. Oh, I information. I hold, hold, hold. So, so their horses were not also not trained to deal with gunfire. Right. Horses salute too.

Gosh, they can't trot at this. So when the shooting starts, the horses are startled. And then they they all so the the Thunderbolt and his buddy take off and they go into a swamp. Sure. Which turns into this crazy slow chase. They're essentially walking across the swamp. Pull over. You know, there's nothing like a low speed chase. Yeah. But the cops are also bad shots of the shooting. I mean, just missing everything. Well, what's their first day using a gun to? Yeah, it'd be fair. Yeah. I've never done that before. So they finally shot. Can they not see us saluting? What is happening? We are wearing matching outfits, right? Yes, of course we are. We look

fantastic. And we've got our legs to the side like we're river dancing. So Fred eventually does get shot in the knee and him and his buddy escape into the bush. Okay. Now the bullet went in and out. So he limps up to two workers near Kentucky Station named Head and Tickle. And their names are Head and Tickle. That's correct. Head and Tickle or Head and Tail? Head and Tickle. I thought they were just going to be in a horse costume. You know what? I feel like this is about to become a tickling podcast. Finally. We fulfilled it. We called the shots so long ago. Nothing I enjoy out after a night out a little Head and Tickle. Oh, absolutely. Nothing like after a bit of

head having the tickle. Just the tickle while the head's taking. I wonder what Head and Tickle we're getting up to in that cabin all alone in the middle of nowhere. Tonight you be Head and I'll be Tickle. Most nights. You said I could be tickle. No. I'm Head and I'm Tickle. Come in. Yeah. Which one you want? Well, I prefer a little Head and then a little tickle after. Most do. Is Mr. Lick around? Dr. Lick. Pardon me. So he goes over to these two guys and they splash the wound with rum. Don't worry. Head and Tickle know how to solve an exit wound. We'll just put some rum on it. This might tickle a bit. Head'll suck the poison out. How are you? There's poison. So they put rum on it and they wrapped it and

then Fred limped off using his shotgun as a crutch. Wow. Yeah. So he ended up healing up. Everyone in this audience obviously being in Queensland is very offended that people are wasting rum. Yeah. So he gets up healing and then he goes back to robbing. He was called the Gentleman Bush Ranger because he was so plight and courteous to women while robbing. Nice. He told people he wanted to be like Robin Hood. Australia had a very haves and haves not culture war unlike now. And Fred's Rob the rich routine made him a cult hero outlaw. Half the people. They see the shack that he'd robbed earlier because it feels like. Half the people. Nothing but Robin rich people. Yeah. You would not believe the mansion I got

this gun and bacon from. When we pulled off that gun and bacon caper and took that guy's last tooth. So half the people support him and aid him. Right. So on December 21st 1863 after robbing a toll house he wrote by the toll window. So he gets out gets on his horse. He's riding by he makes eye contact with the toll keeper and he said Captain Thunderbolt. Okay. So that. Now that is how he got his nickname. That's and he just made it up. Yep. Okay. So he just one day decided. So Captain Thunderbolt gave Captain Thunderbolt Captain Thunderbolt or the toll keeper did. That's no he gave himself his own nickname. Yeah. Right. Which is not. I don't know if that's how nicknames work necessarily but. No no no he came along and said no no

seriously everyone at my old school called me Captain Thunderbolt. We've got a button. Nobody has nicknames like that around here. You met head tickle Thunderbolt. Head and tickle. We're like that's way better. That's way better. That's good. I'm Captain Rum Wound. Captain Thunderbolt. According to author Carol Baxter that's how he got his nickname. After he robs the toll house then he goes to the inn that's nearby and just starts drinking and eating and having a good time. Sure. He told the innkeeper that he was going to rob her but now he wouldn't because she was being so nice. Nice. And then he kept getting drunk and then he finally left and as he walks out he runs into the toll keeper. Hey. And he says quote well you're the chap I stuck up this morning

at the toll bar. I suppose you have come after me and the toll keeper's like I'm just going to the pub honestly. You can't get Captain Thunderbolt that easily. And then Fred gave him the money back he'd stolen. What? It's a weird superhero. Well no no his whole MO is he robs from the rich and gives to the poor. So by definition this guy's now poor. Like he had lots of money before but he's walked into the pub. He can barely afford a drink. He got robbed earlier in the day and poor old Captain Thunderbolt's like well you're the sort of guy I like to redistribute the money to. What happened to you? You robbed me earlier. Well sounds like you were poor. What? There you go. Now it looks like you just came into a big sum of money didn't you? Yeah.

Well well well guess who's going to need to get that from you old Captain Thunderbolt. Here you go. Boy you got nothing do you Jack? No I don't. You took it all. Sounds like you're done on your luck. Poor inch. Here you go. Tell him Captain Thunderbolt gave it to you. Okay you rich mother fuckers make me sick. What? Give me that money. Here. You ain't got a pot to piss in or a window throw it out of do you? No it's not even my money. It was toll money. Here you go friend. Here's again back up on your feet again. I don't want it this to take it. You just going to take it? No I'm not. There you go. Now go on your way. Not so fast asshole. And the two men stayed that way for 40 years. And this is the end of the story. Here you go.

Now here now you don't. And not going down like that you will lead us. So after he gave him the money the toll keeper said quote where's my cash box and Fred told him where it was and so Fred ends up after the day of robbing with no profits. Captain Thunderbolt strikes again. Soon afterward he held up a couple on the street and the man said he needed the money because he was taking his wife to the doctor so Fred's like I can keep it. Okay this sounds legit. In January of 1864 the folklore around Fred was building but his gentlemen ways weren't always. It's about 30 to 45 minutes and then you just leave with everything you had. Yeah you can actually make money off this fucking. Yeah no he ended up giving me a couple of buttons

off his coat on accident. There you go. For you and your wife. Do you want a dog? So his ways aren't always profitable but also most cops don't want to face him. On the Great North Road Fred. He doesn't respect the salute. On the Great North Road Fred saw a cop writing towards him and he yelled quote hello you want me don't you. And the cop said nothing. So Fred pulled his gun and pointed it and asked again and the cop said quote no I don't want you in particular I'm only giving my horse an airing and then he raised an airing. Oh giving his horse an airing. Yeah it's 15. It's time. It's his quinceanera. Yeah. He then raced off on his horse. Wow. To the cops. A lot of cops don't.

Similar times of cops right. They don't want to deal with it. Yeah I mean it's Captain Thunderbolt that's an intimidating name. Also it's actually quite hard when you get back to the station to go so what did he steal. Well technically nothing. Yeah. At the end of the day nothing. I mean he's he's he committed robbery 30 times but he had nothing at the end of it. It's he's created quite a rarefied airspace for himself. That's right. So the press can't believe he's robbing people in broad daylight. It was supposed to be they were saying he was robbing 10 to 20 people a day. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Everyone is talking about him. The the Maitland Mercury paper reported that Captain Thunderbolt was Fred Ward. What. Figured out who he was. They've never seen him

in the same room at the same time. It's just a pair of glasses he wears when he's Fred. So people began seeing him near Monkry. Nice. Keep going. You did it. Keep going buddy. Keep going pal. Keep going. Keep going buddy. What did you say that time. Nope. I didn't I didn't even hear it. What was it. Monkry. Look at Will's like. Anyone got any idea what he just said. Mudgey. Oh I can't. No it's not Mudgey. It's Monkry. M-O-N-K-R-E-E. Monk. O-N-K-R-E-E. He goes oh. We didn't need your revelation sir. That was. Oh. Oh. As you are Dave. Okay. All right. Monkry. So that's where Marianne's living and people are starting to see him around

there. Right. So Fred and Marianne and their two kids take off. I am Captain Thunderbolt. Right. Okay. So they settled down by a Kogo River living in the bush. For eight months they lived a very simple domestic life. Fred hunted for food. Give me your life. Wait a second. Did you get anything today? Almost. Trapped a bunch of them but they were so poor by the end of it I had to. He was bored after a while and longed for his criminal life. So on January 5th 1865 he partners up with a man named Thomas Macintosh and robbed a businessman of 150 pounds. Now their plan now is to really go after the rich. Right. Okay. The cops found the camp. They're searching all over. They found the camp and they questioned

Marianne. She said Fred had been gone for five weeks and happily told them whatever they wanted to know. Nice. So he wasn't like by the way don't tell the cops anything. She was like I'll just let him know everything. So they took all the stolen property. I miss his Thunderbolt. Miss his Captain Thunderbolt actually. So she had a bunch of stolen property. They take it all. They don't arrest her though. Now at this time more and more bush rangers are starting to terrorize people. One shot and killed a constable and people are starting to freak out and papers are attacking the government for not be able to handle all the bush rangers. So the cops increased their effort to find Captain Thunderbolt. That's a great nickname he's given himself.

And he put together a bush ranger gang. Scottish Thomas Macintosh. That's right. Macky. 17 year old Brit John. The Tartan Kilt they call me. Captain Thunderbolt and the Tartan Kilt. 17 year old Brit John Thompson. That's right. And Mountain Man Thomas the Bull Hogan. So Marianne also joined up with them. So they spent the next few months robbing. Trackers found Fred's camp once again and again there was Marianne. And she said quote you're too late. They're off. We saw you when you're coming on on the lake this morning. Damn it. And then she started just giving the cops shit for not being able to catch Fred. Todd they keep shooting at us. So this time we don't believe in guns.

So this time they arrest her. Oh. And when they said they were going to arrest her she just fucking attacked one of the cops. Salute. Salute. She's ripping at his uniform with her fingernails. She's hitting his chest and she's yelling that Fred is going to avenge her and kill them. And then she backs up and she challenges the cop to single handed combat. Oh. I don't want to fight Mrs. Captain Thunderbolt. So the other cops held her down and restrained her and she just kept yelling Fred's going to come and get his vengeance. And then they put her on the horse and they're riding her back and she's just fucking yelling at him the whole time. All right. Did I mention she's pregnant?

She's really pregnant. Wow. You didn't need to mention it. Honestly. It's just assumed if you don't mention she's pregnant that she is pregnant. Yeah. Just tell us if she isn't. Okay. So she starts doubling over in pain on the ride. So the cops drop her to nearby station because they don't want to deal with the fact that something could go wrong. Right. And then the press hears about it. It's so strange. What is time when the cops are like, boy, she could get hurt. Let's give her dignity. So the press hears about it and they mock the the cops quote the police succeeded in capturing a half cast woman and two children belonging to one of the robbers. I'm sure you will think with me that great praises due to them for their gallant

conduct. It's the sarcasm is what could come across as just legitimate like like there should be a specific font for that because someone would be like they should they did a very good job. These cops were unbelievable. They did such a great job. I'm being sarcastic. Reading the sarcastic times. It didn't take long for Fred and his gang to come and take Marianne and the kids and then they returned later that day and robbed the station that they just taken her from. Why didn't you just do it when you were here earlier? They know it was us. We weren't here earlier. And then after they robbed, they stayed for a meal and chat and had a good time with their victims. I mean, I do enjoy the way they rob. Yeah,

I like it's like a post-coital cigarette. It's sort of like it's kind of like the ultimate unexpected pop in. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like I'm coming over for dinner. I haven't told you also I'm taking everything. That was such a good robbery earlier. Let's break some bread. Let's eat some of your bacon. I mean, I guess the idea of coming into somewhere, you know, stealing everything and then just living there with the people you've stolen from is a very Australian story. Yeah. I would wonder the vibe of the people who they robbed, you know, if they were like, that was amazing. Or if they're like, no, I remember. Look, how much, seriously, this is, we're going to make one more pizza.

So Fred knew we had to get Marianne some distance away from where they were operating and he hired a part Aboriginal woman to stay with Marianne and he set them up about 300 miles away. Wow. So the public now really wants action and the government passes the felons apprehension bill and was pretty much directly aimed at Captain Thunderbolt and his gang bush rank felons apprehension bill or fab. Yeah. The police definitely were like fab is perfect. Salute. Hold it. Hold it. Fab. It's time for fab. Well, you're not going to love us now. We're saluting him with a fab brigade. What are you snickering about? These men have no respect. River dance. So the bush rangers charged now had to surrender by a certain date. And if they didn't, they could legally be shot

on site by anyone. Okay. So quite a rule. Yeah. So those who supported bush rangers could be searched without warrants, arrested and convicted on weak evidence and given long prison sentences and have all their assets seized. Not if I have anything to do with it. Got a match. This guy. But the gang didn't stop. So now in Tamworth on April 19th, they robbed a postman. Also knowing Fred, he probably like stole all the mail and then felt guilty and then went and delivered all the mail with the postman. Captain Thunderbolt. So what he did though was he sat there with the postman and opened the mail and took the valuables and then gave the letters back. This one's nice. She really misses her daughter.

I'm having the best time. Yes, I'm not. I love you postman. Now locals are freaked that a gang is operating in the area and that it sounds like Captain Thunderbolt's gang. Though one, I really can't get over the idea that he just started calling himself Captain Thunderbolt one day and then that was it. And it's like, it really is a fucking awesome nickname, but it has no relationship to really what he's doing. He just was like a Marvel writer. He's like Captain Thunderbolt. People are like, fuck, that's him. Does he have like a Thunderbolt insignia or logo? Or some, yeah. Is he a captain of any description of the skies? I feel like I don't even know if he gave himself the nickname. I just feel like he was riding by the

guy and went Captain Thunderbolt. Yeah. And they was like, what? He must be talking about himself because I'm not Captain Thunderbolt. Captain Thunderbolt. It's amazing. So one of the gang was described as quote, stupid looking. Which one? That was Thompson. That's right. Captain Thunderbolt, Mackie and the stupid looking one. How are you? We're here to take your stuff and give it back, probably. So five days later, the cops caught up with the gang. They just robbed an inn at Millie and were drinking in the same inn. They really don't get much distance between the crime. Like they throw the rap party. So what it is, like you could imagine, like if you were saying you're going to rob like a bar, that you might go and drink in the bar all night, enjoy being at the

bar and then at the end of the night, rob the bar. But I love the way that they're like, we're robbing you and now we're starting. We're just going to rob an inn for a few hours. Yeah. We rob and then party and people are like, this is like my business. I'm having the best time with your new friend. Gosh, what a day we've had. So the cops arrive and the cops that are like, didn't you just rob this place? How'd you find us? You're in the place you robbed. Wow. Yeah, but now it's a party. It's different now. We own it. So technically I don't know if it's still robbing. Salute at them. So the cops arrive, but they're on they've been riding for a while. So the horses are very tired. And the junk, the drunk

bush rangers decide to fight the cops. And it just like the description is crazy, but it just it just devolves into them all riding around kind of in circles shooting at each other. Nice. It's kind of a cartoon war. So after a bunch of different shots, John Thompson is shot and he falls off his horse. Okay. Okay. So he falls on the ground and a cop, you know, goes toward him. And Thompson, he goes, we surrender and drop your gun. And Thompson goes, I okay, I'll surrender. And then then he shoots at the cop. Oh, nice. But he misses. Wow, not a great. So another cop shoots him in the face. Well, I mean, we don't want him to go, but he really didn't handle that great, to be honest. And then the and then the gang takes off

when that happens. Okay. So Thompson's no more. Yeah. And the cops, the cops horses are way too tired to chase. So Wow, he had been shot through the back and out the stomach with the first shot. And then tickle on the case, get the rum. He's dead, sir. He's not dead. He's alive, sir. Sir. The rum did it. We got him back. Tickle him. Put your finger in there. Coochie coochie. Yeah. He was awesome. I'm old school. He was also shot in the jaw and it went out his neck, but he survives. Jesus. He ended up getting seven years in prison. Wow. That's I mean, that's, that's quite a turn. Okay. So after that, the gang heads to Queensland, which upsets the locals. One paper wrote quote, we on the Warango are besieged with criminal refugees from New South

Wales and including Captain Thunderbolt. That's what they say during the festival, a comedy festival. Yeah. Fred felt running with recognizable gang members put him at risk. So he splits off and goes on his own. Okay. Now, Fred went and robbed the exact same postman that he had robbed previously. Oh, no. Hey, buddy. The postman always rubs twice. And again, they had a casual conversation while Fred opened all the letters and took out the ah, you got a lot of good mail this time, please. This one's hot. He mostly, he mostly keeps away from Marianne for safety and he does go back, however, for the birth of his next daughter. How is he not like, it feels like, I mean, he must just be,

just feels like he's dropping loads and rolling, honestly. That's the name of the book that this came from dropping. And you know what he's doing? He's thunderbolting. You just let all your captains head upstream and you take off. So after his daughter's born, he left quickly after Carol Baxter, quote, Marianne was now hunter, gather and milch cow for her little horde. Wow, what a way of putting that. Jesus Christ. Fred kept, so Fred keeps that midwife that he'd hired to help out.

Right. And at one point Fred was with a new partner and they come across a magistrate who had once chased him before and so they robbed the magistrate. Okay. Fred bragged he would never be caught and right as he's bragging that he's never going to be caught, his new partner drops his gun, it goes off and shoots Fred's horse. Oh Jesus. Killing it.

Oh God. Oh. And Fred takes a swig from a bottle of rum. Yep. Blows it into the horse wound. Whoa. This is a little trick I'll learn in New South Wales. The old head and tickle.

And then he offers some of the rum to the magistrate. Yep. And then he gets on his partner's horse and he rides off. With the partner? Or the partner's like, Fred. No, he leaves the partner. Captain Thunderbolt. All I do is kill your horse. I don't know this guy.

Was the partner trying to betray him at this moment? Is that what was going on? He was just fucking. He was just, just killed his horse. Yeah, he just dropped his gun. Oh, okay. Accidentally. And then so the guy who, his new partner who robbed the magistrate and the magistrate

are both just sitting there like, so, uh, I don't think he's coming back. Now he was pissed. So what is a magistrate anyway? I never even. I don't really know. I'm kind of a judge. Oh, nice. That's cool.

That's cool. Judge. Anyway. Anyway, I can't believe I shot his horse. I think went down fast. I never seen a horse die from a gun that dropped that fast. I really surprised me. I'll tell you.

That shocked me. Well, I'm here with you now. Yeah. And I'm drunk. Because I'm yet drunk too. Personally, I'm also, I don't know where we are in relation to where we were. So I'm sure I'm tired. You're under arrest.

I don't think you can do that right now. That's all I got. No. Fair enough. All right. So, you know, oh, I'm sorry. You was going to say something. Go ahead.

I was not even going to say if you. I was just going to say if I know any songs. No. Oh, go ahead. I was going to say it's awkward when we walk at the same pace. Yeah. So maybe we should sing. I don't know.

Would you know? Is that what you're going to say? I think we should separate. Oh, OK. One of us should walk slower. Right. And then if we find some, if we find water, the other one calls for the other one. And then we sort of start a life out here together.

OK. It's crazy enough to work, I guess. Sounds pretty good to me. I love you. I love you so goddamn much. It's crazy. I mean, so goddamn long to hear a man out here just say those words. I've been a judge.

And then he drops his gun and kills him. Oh, damn it. Shit. Now what? Damn, every time I meet a friend, drop my gun and it kills him. At least I got my songs. So his new partner, he meets some of the new partner, Irish Patrick Kelly. If you can believe I got it, Patrick Kelly's Irish.

He also met up with Brit Jemmy the Whisperer. That's right. Now don't tell anyone about this partnership. Do you understand? Keep it betwixt us. What? Keep this all betwixt us. They can't know.

What? Yeah, we can't hear you, mate. You're going to need to speak up. You should. We're on horses right now. Yeah, we don't. It's quite loud out here with the horses. Mate, you're going to need to just speak up a little if you're going to be.

I am shouting as far as I'm concerned. Yeah, I can't make out a word. You still can't hear really there, mate. You're just going to have to... I am yelling at you right now. Now, here's the plan, gentlemen. What? Again, can't hear you, mate.

If you could just... Here's the plan, gentlemen. It's quite good and it's quite complex. So you've got a van? No, I don't have a van. Maybe we could come up with some sort of thing where you blink and we know what you're saying. No, no, no. Like a code?

Because I'm not... No, I'm the Whisperer. What? I'm the Whisperer, goddammit. That's right. Because that's my thing. We all need a hook. You've got Captain Thunderbolt.

I'm the Whisperer. Nobody knows what I'm saying. Now, the plan from the top is quite simple. All we need to do is move through the back. That's the place. What? Now, if we move quickly, we've got this. They don't expect us and that's why we're expecting.

Now, if they go for that, we've got the guns, but they've not got that idea just yet. We will blow... No. I mean, it was hard to use these silencer, but... Tell my wife now that you've shot me. What? I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Also... So a lot of people support them. Rural women would hang red blankets from clothes lines if cops were near.

One cop tried to arrest Fred, but he... One of them are doing red blankets today, aren't they? One cop tried to arrest Fred, but he ended up stealing the cop's gun and then mocking the cops. Now I don't have a gun. Here you go. Ah!

So all these stories just make people love them more. The government refused to give more money to the cops, but instead raised the bounty on Fred to 100 and 50 for each gang member. Okay. So one night they roll into Queer Dye, a guy named Davis is on a porch, and they told him to step down,

and he said, I will not. Nice. And then they told him to hand over his saddle, and he said, quote, No, I will not. But if you come at me one at a time, I will fight the lot of you.

I like that. Okay. Was he the guy who invented Hollywood movie fighting? What will the rest of us do? Kind of pump your fists a little and watch. Get in a ready stance. You come at me one at a time. Form a line to the left.

This guy's crazy. Let's be fair. So they said they would shoot him, and he said, quote, I dare you to do it. But they really didn't care. They just pushed past him and grabbed his saddle and said they remembered him, made fun of him.

So one man was with 15 sheep shears, and he begs them to go fight the gang with him. And he's like, The 15 sheep shears. Yeah. So there's a guy. Oh, is this porch guy or a different guy? This is a different guy.

Different guy. The porch guy crime is happening. Sorry. And this guy hears, I think hears about it, and he says, Let's go. We got 15 sheep shears.

Come on, shears. Let's go fucking get these guys. Right. And they're like, Well, they don't do anything to us. Like, I don't care. So he takes it. He sends a 12 year old kid.

Nice. Smart. Yeah. Good. Okay. With a message for the gang. Hey. And the message is, quote,

I want you and defy you. What? You're in a race. I want you. And that's about the sheep shears. I want you and I defy you. I defy you. And I want you.

And I defy you. And I want you. But I also defy you. You know that like Thunderbolt would be into that because that's his M.O. Just a flip flop emotionally all over the joint. Feelings at the end of the spectrum, eh? I want you and I defy you.

Well, I rob you and I return to you. Okay. Okay. And were they like, All right. What the fuck are you talking about? He's like, The sheep shears sent me.

I think this 12 year olds hitting on me. They came rolling in there and he's like, I want you. And I defy you. And I was like, let's go. And then I'm like, well, he's 12. So this is a little bit weird. But that is it based on what goes on out here.

Damn, I'm mixed up. Not a lot of us are, Jack. Yeah, that's wrong. I'm glad you got there, pal. Took a while to be honest. Quit thinking. Okay. So the gang is just like whatever and they keep the kid as a hostage.

Wow, that's cool. But again, they've robbed someone. So they're just hanging out of the end drinking and partying. Right, of course. They committed a robbery. And then the 12 year old, they noticed that no one's paying attention to him. So he sneaks out and he rides to the police.

I want you and I defy you. What? That's it. What does that want you mean? I don't know. The sheep shears gave me a message that was really shitty. It's really not worth great. And how are you defying me?

I don't know, but I do also want you. I don't know. I think the more I think about it, I think this is a prank. I think they prank me. One of them is my older brother. God, I hate Doug. It's the equivalent of like pranking a new tradie.

Is that what it is? It's like sending a guy down to the shops for like the black and white paint. They've just gone send the 12 year old over to the gang. What'll I write on the note? I want you, but I defy you. You sure they'll respect it? They'll drop all their weapons right away, friend.

Okay. So the cops ride up, but their horses are tired. Okay. Like seriously, they've got to get a few to horses. Yeah, their horses are a real problem. They need, I mean, why are the horses? By the time they get to the state, like they've been partying the whole time and the horses are rested.

And by the time the cops get there, the cops horses are always tired. The cops really have not figured out how to be cops yet. I mean, they just started figuring out they need to carry guns and like use them. And then now they have horses. They're like, I've got to stop smoking. I'm fucking gashed.

Whoo. All the cops have got to come undercover, join the party for a couple of hours, let the horses rest. Yeah. And then jump up and say, we're. Totally. Yeah. Yeah.

You robbed them. That's amazing. Why, we'd love to have a drink. And how about some water for these tired, horde to hydrated horses? Thank God you robbed them too. Don't salute, boys. Don't salute.

That's a dead giveaway, boys. Put your goddamn hands down. Put your hands down now, fellas. So the gang takes off and then after the cops can't keep up with them. So they circle back and go back to partying while the cops think they're chasing us. No. No.

Shut up. Hang on. So they just leave the cops away and then just duck back to the fucking party at the place they've just robbed. And the people over there were robbed and probably like, well, that was a fucking crazy day. But thank God they're gone.

Good news. We tricked them. Another round, another round. Give us one more round. Oh, shit. You guys look surprised and confused. So two hours later, the cops roll up again. Well, well, well.

Our horses are more tired than the first time. You let us on a goose chase. We want you into fire. Now our horses are really tired. Well, now we're taking off. Fuck. Get on the goddamn tired horses. Well, so the gang hops on the horses

and they give the cops a mocking salute and ride off. Oh, really? Yeah. They even they mocked the salute. They're saluting. Everyone get down. My God, they're as good as us. Oh, my Lord.

And this time the cops are just too tired to chase and they're like, I can't. Damn it. Well, we're not very good at this. No. I mean, surely if you're the cops, you chase them off again and then pertain to chasing and duck back at white for them to ride.

Yeah. Yeah. When they're like, well, I don't know where they are. You don't think I do not want to go back to that goddamn saloon. I swear to God, if they're there. So a few nights later, they roll into the town of Carroll and after robbing and drinking.

In that order. Three cops show up and a cop shows up. And a gunfight happens. Oh. Jemmy shot one cop in the arm and neck. That's all right. Take that. Motherfucker.

I'll see you in hell. Fred escaped but took his horse into a bog, got stuck in the mud and sunk. He had to leave his horse and go on foot. It's a very never ending story. Yeah. The horse was fine though. The horse made it.

Oh, thank God. Will, thank God. It's OK. It's fine. Because to me, it sounds like the cars are really... You promise? Yeah, no. He went on, but the horse definitely made it out.

Probably trotted in the bog for a while and then came back out. He became a king of the bog. Captain Thunderbolt and king of the bog. Yeah, that's right. That's where the story is going. Fuck yeah, Dave. They end up making a baby together.

Ah, I want you in defy you. So now they've shot a cop, so they're much more dangerous and more cops are added to track the gang. So the Tamworth Examiner reported it had been a different gang that did the robbery. OK. Or the shooting of the cop, I mean, in the robbery. And that that gang had done a string of robberies.

So now Fred and his gang are fucking pissed that they're not getting the credit. Mm. Yeah. Interesting, Captain Thunderbolt. After Fred started entering robberies with guns out, saying, quote, I'm Captain Thunderbolt, and I've come to stick you up.

And I'm a whisperer, and we're a part of the same team. Nobody's going to... What? What? I'm saying that we're... Yeah. No, seriously, man, can you speak up? I cannot.

You have laryngitis? No, no, I'm fine. But what I will say, Captain Thunderbolt said... What? This is... I mean, basically, what he said. There's a robber here, I mean. It doesn't matter what you do. Yeah, so he...

So the guy robbed us is named Captain Thunderbolt, and he's got, like, a mute friend. What I do love about this is, you know, there's at least one person in the dollop audience who has a real hard-on for ASMR, who's loving. Who's sitting at home right now with their headphones on, just going, this is my favorite episode ever. You're going to your workshop again, shit?

Yeah, yeah. Just going to do a little head-and-tickle if you know what I'm saying. Thunderbolt one more time. That goddamn whisperer. That's right. Hey, to the one ASMR fan. I just... I was half as scared as you thought I was to be. Oh, yeah.

So besides announcing... Besides... Besides now announcing himself when he robs, he is also telling stories of his crimes, while he drinks with them afterwards, so he can really get... He's trying to get it out there. Like, he feels like he's not getting the appreciation that he needs, so...

He's branding. Right. Yeah. Right. I love this. The whole ordeal is now taking even longer, because, like, he doesn't just party now. He walks you through everything he's done.

So no one knows why the gang split up in January 1866, but Fred goes into hiding, and Kelly and Jimmy form separate gangs on their own. Kelly got caught pretty quick and got a 19-year sentence. How much? Uh, served seven and then was sent to America. Oh, no. Oh, fate where's the debt?

Jimmy kept... Captain Thunderbolt? Is that you? Um, Jimmy kept robbing. Yeah, really? So he's off robbing. Fred starts robbing again. Nice.

Then the woman, Fred had hired to help with Marianne's birth and help out with the family, goes to the cops. Uh-oh. A tell-all. And she says Fred got hurt falling off his horse, and he had been tying her up. And he had been tying her up whenever he and Marianne left the camp. Okay, interesting.

And she finally escaped and came to them. So she tells them where they are. Right. And now cops come from every direction, kind of circle the camp. Bring your most athletic equine. They found the camp, but he had escaped on a horse. So the cops now had all of his stuff, and Marianne is once again arrested, this time for vagrancy.

She, um, so they split, they took her to kids and had the woman that was helping out take the kids, and then she got to keep her baby. Weird. Okay. And Marianne's very honest. She said Fred was shot in the leg in August, and then a horse fell on his leg after that.

Quote, since then I've had to lift him up onto his horse, and he has hurt so much that I do not think he can long survive. He's looking for a head and tickle. So that might be why the gang split up is because he was at a commission. Right. Um, so in court, in court, a cop said Marianne owned men's pants when caught. Oh, hang on. Whoa.

Case closed, motherfucker. Wow. She had men's pants. Yep. Yes. Finally a crime. Disgusting. Oh, lady in man pants.

My God. Makes me sick. Just when you think you've seen everything. Quote, she also started that when police chased Ward, she was dressed in men's pants. No one in court could believe what they were hearing. Holy fuck. Men's pants.

Grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble, grumble. Right. They were fine with the, the criminal that would rob from people, then give everything back at the after party, but a woman wearing man's pants. This was ill her. Marianne yelled, quote, I was not dressed in men's clothes. I didn't say that.

And the cops said, quote, you did say that when the police chased Ward, you had pants on. Jesus Christ. So it's really like we're getting bogged down in the wrong details. When a bunch of people died, shut up, a woman wore man pants. Christ, the rookie's sick. What do you think's happening to the lady stuff in there? I don't even want to think about it.

It's spoiling. I'm a doctor. Trust me. Cannot survive. And yet I'm strangely attracted. All right, doctor. Your testimony ends here. That'll be all, doctor.

You may step down from the witness stand. We understand you wore pants. Get out of the witness box, sir. Doctor, get out of the witness box. I'm thinking it's musky. Doctor, get out of the goddamn witness box now. Leave now. Doctor, we will have you removed from the witness box

if we need to. Stop thinking of something else. No, do not say another goddamn thing. Put your glasses back on your stupid face. No, no, no, no. Do not set your glasses down like you're about to have a diatribe. Sir, sir, sir, sir.

No, sir, no. Don't even your honor me. As a doctor. Shut up, doctor. You've said enough. The last two things have been quite enough. Sir, your mouth is open. Ridically.

No. Stop speaking in medical terms or any other. I need her to sit on my face. Doctor. Medically speaking. Doctor. Because of the pants. Doctor.

We have to see what's happened. Doctor. And we really got to get in there. Doctor, nobody needs your testimony any longer. It is officially done. Why are you holding your nose like you're deep in thought? That should not be happening. You just asked the defendant to sit on your goddamn face.

Get out of the fucking witness box. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. Don't let me leave the courtroom to think. We are good with you.

We. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. I don't know how to be any more clear so I'm just going to say it one more goddamn time. Get out of the witness. If we.

Why are you standing? Get them all in pants. No. No. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor. Doctor.

Doctor. Doctor. Get out of the goddamn witness box. Apologize. Don't sit back down in the witness box. Get out of it. Put your glasses back. You look befuddled with good reason.

You have said some things you should not have said. I. No. You are nothing. That is far too late sir. Am I in the right country? No. No.

No. No. But even if you were it would do you no good to say the fifth after the things you've said. Yeah. Can we name the pants magnificent? Okay. We're going to take a recess. Ooh.

No. Not in that way. Not for that. No. Are we not? No. We're not. No.

Not in that concession. Oh god damn it. I have no way to go here. The old head and tickle. So Marianne is found guilty of being idle. Hang on. What's she found guilty of? Yeah.

Being idle and disorderly. Being idle and disorderly. Wow. So she's sitting around. It's vagrancy law. Right. She had no means of support or fixed residents and she got six months. That'll teach you.

Giving you somewhere to live with I knew where she was Essentially, it's a law against Aboriginal people, right? They can say you don't have a house, but you're like, no It's I don't have a fucking English house. I have my house. Yeah, what they do in LA now Really great, yeah a little pants doctor You're in the whole night, didn't it? God damn it. We have no clue where you are. No, it moved down again So talk amongst yourselves I mean, I am still fascinated by the idea of man's pants though like why is that so Incredibly offensive like was it when you went if you were a woman where you were not allowed to wear pants

No, I mean at all. Absolutely not like men literally lost their fucking mind. Okay No, we did a story about it once where it was like, yeah, the I mean it was was it women Yeah, they kept arresting her over and over and over again. Yeah, there's your pants She was like running and wearing pants, and they were like what she's gonna get somebody killed And she did so So she gets six months in jail and then the legislator debates

If her Aboriginal person could be a vagrant in their own land So actually so there's actually some reasonable people like should we do I mean we got rid of them pretty quick That doesn't exist any longer, but she's not fully Aboriginal So they're literally discussing like should we do this to Aboriginal people and then oh, well, is she Aboriginal? Like it's a whole it couldn't sound like a worse debate. Nice The decision was then kicked up kicked up to Governor Young to come up with a decision. He Released her 17 days into her sentence. He's like, that's not how we're doing things. The public is fucking pissed One letter to the mayor mercury called the decision quote such wretched stump oratory

The Tamsworth examiner wrote quote. She is a very smart woman intelligent and car red but Right to pretty well our red. All right There are no cars you never known car must be well read it Okay, but and she writes pretty well so and that she deserved no sympathy also well Quote she's not darker than many European women might easily be amendable to the vagrant act So they're like judging it based on yeah, it's good. This is a good Discussion that really should be air. I get we're back to the comedy part of the show. Yep

So a lot of it is the fun podcast about how think now I understand every week when you're hearing some American story where you're like, nothing's changed. Yeah. Yeah, yeah So it's basically just a giant discussion on racism and misogyny Amongst men nice, which doesn't happen anymore the guys who are gonna solve that problem Just give them a minute So people had solutions to the bushranging problem most of which was just killed the bushrangers. Mm-hmm And Marian doesn't know where Fred is so she looks for him and she leaves her kids with relatives And then she gets arrested for having a stolen horse But the judge drops

drops the charge because of me Because women can't own property Wow, so so she can't technically have stolen the horse is that you're Your nightmare system Is unable to convict sorry, but I like it. Well, I can't own this horse So there's no way that I can actually be no, but you did the law says that a woman can't own a horse So I guess I'm just but you know

Oh god damn it. We've been too bad Shit she's got pants. All right settle down. In fact, what's a list of other things that are no lead Damn it. She can take everything No doctor we do not need any testimony right now, so we are all set Nope, we are no doctor. I don't even know why you showed up. Nobody's calling you as a witness We are miles away from your last trial, so please just Just don't even I don't I would actually like you tossed out of the court. Put your goddamn hand down So she can't technically have a horse

So she was accused of receiving stolen fabric. Aha, so not not having it Receiving Now that she has it that's okay And she says that she bought it and she names the store she bought it from oh god damn it And then they asked her for a receipt Aha, and fuck it's 17 1800 something. Yeah, she received you just hand them like a stick and be like there it is They'd be like that Yeah, I guess we don't really do those too well now do we and

And so I just loved the idea of you buying a horse and then going you need a receipt Now you have 30 days to return it if it gets too exhausted we give it to the cops So she doesn't ever see she says go ask the store and they go why don't you go ask the store and she's like I can't in court and then they put her in jail for three months No, okay, so That's Fred the cops didn't know but Fred had retired like he was like I'm out of the business. I can't do this anymore, right and Was it the potting that didn't

I'm just so hungover I'll tell you what I can't keep up with that lifestyle anymore the robin eyes fine. It's just we party so hard after the after parties But now he's fucking pissed because of what they did to Marianne and he's like I'm going back in and Captain Thunderbolt so he like then we do the montage where it's like close up on the belt getting strapped He laces his boots. He puts a shirt back on his biceps bulge a little he trims the beard He puts on his little mask and then he ties it tight and he's like one more ride So now he wants he wants to not not just rob people but he wants to torment cops. Yeah

So one night he robs a bunch of people and then drinks with them for hours afterwards. Okay, he's learned our lessons And they said he became much less angry and more gentlemanly the more drunk he got sure yeah, yeah crazy This is the first time that's ever happened Well a cop was tipped off and soon another horseback chase was underway, but even an extremely drunk beyond belief Fred Again got away But this time he didn't run he got away and then stayed in sight Daring the cops to catch him. Oh, wow. And so Two cops

Get in a buggy and disguise themselves as a family so they must have put on like a fucking bonnet or some shit Sure. Yeah, how much further pa you don't need to talk. He can't hear us. Oh Okay, do you mind if I do I actually do it's kind of weird. I Wouldn't mind roasting the marshmallow later. I shut up Jenkins. Jesus Christ get out of the goddamn buggy. We don't need you here I'll just put some clothes on a bag of rice No, no, no, no, we're not doing this All right, you're two years older than me. Just shut up So as they got caught as they get close Fred sees them and yells quote, it's the bloody traps and

They chased him again, but once again, he escaped And they're in a buggy. They're like damn it. We actually can't get much momentum going Until he gets away and then they go back to the inn and when they get there Fred's already there drinking We're starting to think there's two of him And he gets away again again, how the fuck Is he like a portal? He's really he's really good on a horse. He must be on the cops are just like extras. Yeah Now the least I at the pub like I mean at the end of the day Yeah, just leave one person at the pub. Yeah, or just send one guy chasing him and the rest you stay at the pub

You'll be back. Yeah Well that during this whole thing the Lee cop was such a coward and inept that his captain files neglect negligent Neglective duty charges against it. Right. Okay. So Fred now goes southeast and recruits 15 year old Thomas Mason as his partner Thomas's father was dead his mom was a sex worker. He had to be some stepfather. So he's like Fred's awesome, right? And but Fred's no longer a gentleman robber. He's fucking angry. He's angry about what happened to Marianne and As they robbing in a Scottish guy charges Fred Now no one's ever attacked him before. Okay. Wow, that's crazy And the guy Scott the guy grabs Fred's arms and hold them and Fred yells at Thomas quote

Rip him with your knife rip his belly open. Excuse me and Thomas moves in and the Scotsman lets go and runs out and Fred shoots at him, but he misses and Then he told the other hostages quote. I'm not a bloodthirsty man. I'll be satisfied with the man's ears Excuse me Fred So there's I'm a little confused by I Don't need blood Take the man's ears off his head

But that they don't pop off like They'll pop off. No, it's not like a mr. Potato. It kind of is situation. It's a bit like sorry, but mr. Potato non-gender potato It's not like a non-gender potato situation the ears Don't come they bloody come off like they're when you take it off the Scottish people say they bloody come off Yeah, so that it's very bloody. Mm-hmm. Great. Thank you. I don't like blood myself. I abhor it Okay, great so remove the Scotsman's ears or take the haggis out of him His belly that's where the haggis lives in the Scott

Not my haggis Oh roast it up. They took me give me a bite. Oh, Christ So as they as they left Fred said he'd be back We know That's your deal. Yeah for the rap party. The hostages say they're gonna get more guns and they'll be ready So it's getting a little more right. It's not the same old right fella So a judge looks into Marion's alibi a different judge and he goes to the store and sure enough She had bought the fabric like how it took that long

To go to the store that but literally she had bought it She what she had bought the fabric. Yeah, she bought it. She just didn't have a receipt She didn't literally just didn't have the receipt. Yeah, she's living out in the fucking push Why she can have a receipt on her and nobody went and then nobody went to just like going to the store was like an amazing idea Oh, it was it was a few towns away like it was a ways away, but no one was like, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna do that Right, right. I don't get it. It's theft, right. Yeah but this other judge looks into it and she's bought it and Now people are fucking mad and they think she's being punished because the cops can't catch Fred. Yeah, so they're taking on him

As much as people are mad at Bush rangers. They also fucking hate cops Nice No That should never change oh No, that hasn't changed We just have less bush rangers This time papers when they're talking about her they do not mention her Aboriginal background So Marianne writes the governor to ask for release and started the letter quote

Your petitioner is the wife of Frederick Ward commonly called Thunderbolt captain Thunderbolt captain. Yeah She was out three days later. Nice Now Fred and Thomas Mason Robin in on May 8th and the innkeeper noticed Fred's hand is shaking as he holds the gun After Fred and the innkeeper sat on the porch drinking and talking He must be one charming son of a bitch, I mean, I mean for everybody to hang after Yeah, it's crazy. It's crazy. Yeah He told Fred to stop before he got you ever gonna rob anyone in town again. I hope it's me Fred I had a great time getting robbed by you

It does feel like he's less interested in robbing and more interested in mating paper It's a formality. Yeah. Yeah So the guy tells Fred to stop before he got killed and Fred said he'd tried but that life was not his thing Now the murderous Clark brothers were caught in New South Wales So the crackdown on bush rangers was all but done except for the final big one captain Thunderbolt Well, of course the big crackdown was what that doctor wanted to do to Mary, but Mary Disgusting animal No one knows

When Fred and Mary and reunited but they were together in August of 1867 Fred's reward is now up to 200 pounds So all the cops are after him They found his camp, but Fred saw them when they were 60 yards away He was getting dressed at the time and had one boot on and he and Thomas bolted With one boot on he still outran the cops and escaped I mean that was toyed from long road If only he was closer That's the problem. We always have to find him

these goddamn horses They they took his four stolen horses and the whole time they did Mary Ann to taunted them and yelled at them But this time they had been ordered not to arrest her again. Yeah Now two cops stumbled across Thomas and Fred on a trail and during the ensuing chase the bush rangers split up And the cops went after Fred, which is what he wanted and then he got away I was like baby driver The head phones and he's like, I'm out of here motherfucker On September 4th, the cops arrested Thomas. He was mentally destroyed by the bush rangers life

I can't believe a 15 year old just couldn't hang but yeah An exhausted and scared teenager now he had not seen Fred since they split up During that chase weeks before The courts took mercy on him and gave him a light sentence for a bush ranger six years A woman reported she thought the outboys 21st. Yeah A woman reported she thought Fred had come to her store and was acting odd quote He never let go robbed but he didn't hang out Something was off with him that day

Quote he never let go of his horse, but he held the reins in his hand while paying for the cheese and then rode away I've done that Nothing weird there It was a 13 pound it was a 13 pound block of cheese. Yeah I've done that It's fine. It's no problem. It's thumbs for him. Thumbs for the horse. Yeah 13 I mean did they not sell like the small pieces of cheese until like 1950 Everything's always a huge huge pound wheeled hunks

That's a 13 pounds is a lot of fucking cheese a ton of cheese The cop who this was reported to a cheese baby. It's a cheese toddler. It's a cheese baby That's a cheese baby a cheese toddler is probably like 26 pounds So it's half a cheese toddler Sorry, sir, it's the baby Jesus Cheese out So The cop has no time to investigate this cheese situation

But he sends a report about the cheese crime Sure And one of his superiors wrote quote constable A mcmorrow is at a loss to know what thunderbolt would want with 13 pounds of cheese something is Go with all that bacon. He's still I mean the idea that they're now like god damn it. What's he doing with 13 pounds of cheese? Can't be good I just imagine next time he robs someone. He's bringing a platter

He was with his new pal sergeant charcuterie Captain thunderbolt and sergeant charcuterie and this guy whispered He stole our derv tooth picks October of 1867 Marianne was pregnant again talking yep But they split up the next month and fred got together with another lady And then one day soon after fred came to the cheese lady for help the lady robbed the they're bought the cheese from I remember you His new lady he said was sick. She needs cheese to live

A lot of monster and ideally some olives Hello, I'm a doctor. Oh my god now. I remember him No, no, we'll leave we will I will literally leave Stop acting like you're about to say something. I do not want and why are you rubbing your thigh slowly? It's just nuts What I was just thinking about cheese and pants Oh for god's sake. He just don't talk again Please

Damn it. I love the bush It's christ Not a doctor. I was a doctor And I found out there's women wearing pants out here I Invented the pervious character Let there be cheese Even the guy who married the 14 year olds looking at that dr. Guy. He's dodgy

I'm like the fucking worst, but I hate this guy. You know what I mean So, uh Fred goes to the cheese woman and he tells the cheese woman where to find uh his sick lady And says quote. I'm leaving this part of the country of the county as it is getting too hot for me So he leaves her and then um, why the cheese woman Well, he's the only person I guess he knows in the area that would I don't really know you already the woman I wrote You're my best friend cheese woman. My name is Shannon and you fucking robbed me I've never had a friend as close as you

My new lady is dying. I need you cheese woman whom I robbed. Yeah, I'm not like super. Okay. What do you need? A bunch of cheese If you exchange cheese with the person you are There's a bind for life A bond or a bind a bind a bind. Okay A bind you're binded together. Are we okay your cheese friends? How can you please put on these pants? I knew it So his new lady dies

He was with her for like a month or three weeks. She dies on her 24th, but he's already gone On august 20th 1868 Marian gave birth to fred ward junior which fred probably never knew about Because they were split up and Marian Didn't know she was pregnant when they split up So like she named it after fred still It is kind of like I mean it is is that nice? Is it weird or is she just like there's a new fred in town? Like I need a replacement fred like baby thunderbolt. Yeah Yeah, I think it's a little strange. Isn't it like he's named alec. Yeah. Yeah, she's bad with his so it's a fred

Well, she's now back with her second husband john burrows. Maybe we should call it john, hun Fred seems like a weird thing to call it now that you and I are back together, babe Just put on the dress Okay Is there any chance you just got back with john because he had some crackers He's like I've got all these trees. I don't know. I don't know if he's me. I've been working in the cracker business for a while Oh, yeah, he's not the 40 year old guy. No, okay, so that's good. Can't be. Yeah Well, he could be we'd be very old much older than 40, but oh

hello Uh pregnant could it be mine? From 40 years ago They're slow swimmers, but they get there They're like salmon swimming upstream It's a fight, but they'll make it eventually Not all but most It's where the burrows name comes from that's right

So Mary Ann and burrows have three more kids. Yes Oh I mean, she'd love to she'd love to fuck like this little babies. Yeah. Yeah, let's call this one fred too. I don't Now that seems like a problem I mean, how many kids is she had now? That's a question for you, but I would guess 45. Yes 60 to 45 God bless her. So the reward for fred went up to 400 pounds And on May 25th 1870 fred tried to rob a man of his horse. Mm-hmm Now fred was with again a younger companion

And the man shot at fred and there were cops nearby and they heard it and soon another chase was on Fred had the two he split up with his partner. He said go our separate ways Uh and a cop alexander walker Paused not knowing which one to chase and fred yelled back quote. Come on and walker yelled back quote. All right and gave chase All right, sure Uh, so walker However, unlike other cops is a really really good rider And so they're ironically. Yeah. Yeah, and so they're the chase is on for a long time

And then they come to a waterhole and fred gets off his horse and start swimming across. Yeah Now it's almost dark. So he is planning something with his horse when it gets dark, right? Okay But the cop rolls up and goes I see what's going on here. So he shoots the horse Oh I mean the horse body count in this episode is a little high It's like another one in the mud survive remember. Oh, right. I keep forgetting that that one ended up becoming the swamp god Yeah, right bog horse my bog pony Um, see bog so now

So now um bog beauty Fred's on the other side of the water in the middle of some horse name jokes So if you could I mean I understand you want to keep moving but The friend's on the other side of the waterhole And walker tells him to surrender And he's obviously not going to surrender because it's fred And so walker rides his horse into the water, but then the horse Falls down into the water dies great. Okay another one gone great

And walker is basically sitting duck, but fred doesn't shoot at him He jumps in the water and he starts heading for walker and walker shoots at fred And then fred gets close and tries to pull walker off the horse But walker now has no bullets left and he pistol whips fred And fred comes up with blood coming out of his mouth and it turns out the first shot he had shot at fred hit him And fred Was dead His body is put on display for days and hundreds of people come to see it

Walker got the 400 pounds and promotions and for hundreds of years people still questioned whether or not It was captain thunderbolt that have been that have been killed. Oh nice. Marian lived a very long life She became a nurse to support herself and her children After yes after boroughs died in 1900 and she died in mudgy in 1905 Wow, god damn. Yeah Uh, most of this based on uh, carol baxter's book captain thunderbolt and his lady the true story of bush rangers fred rick ward and Marian bug

Did you say carol beskin the carol back king lady is that who wrote this? Yeah, the thunder king. Yeah Yeah, that's the story of the wow captain thunder that was a wild Ken I didn't want to ruin The story But is there is thunderbolt a real thing like is there a thunder like i've heard of lightning bolts, but Uh, no thunderbolt or is captain thunderbolt just the whole time. It's a great point Because I don't think a thunderbolt is a thing. Well, I think he just was like he probably was like nervous to like get his nickname out there

And he was like captain lightning bolt and he was like captain thunderbolt. Oh, shit. Shit. I was like, ah captain thunderbolt No, uh, yeah, that's kind of cool. I guess That's crazy. Wow That's some wild shit, Dave. Hello the guy that parties with his victims You guys have got a mate and great after this thing Yeah, give it up for Will Anderson. Thank you everybody. Thanks for coming out. Appreciate it