The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 538 - Peter Brock - live

Episode Date: June 21, 2022

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine race car driver Peter Brock. Recorded live in Adelaide, Australia  Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch   Athletic Greens Helix Sleep Squarespace...

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Starting point is 00:07:40 family, the house, didn't have electricity until 1956. Okay. So 11 years. Yeah, no, that's fucked up. Just imagine. Alright, let's go to bed. Blow all the candles. Yeah, just a nightmare. Yeah, it's the 50s. Blow the candles out. Alright. Peter's the third of four brothers. They all shared a bedroom. Nice. Yeah. Real nice. Yeah. It's awesome. His mom teenage years just watching your brother's masturbate all the time. Just primo stuff right there. Or you could not. You could not watch that. What a nocturnal emission. Or just go out in the woods and masturbate like a bear. Alright, I'm gonna go log bait. I'm gonna climb that tree and bait up it.
Starting point is 00:08:34 I'm off for a bite. His mom was a tennis player and she won a tournament. No wonder. She's like, well, someday tennis will bring home the money till then for you to a room. Now blow your candles out. And she won a tournament while she was seven months pregnant with her youngest. Oh my god. So fucking Australian. Oh my god. Do you lose if you lose that? Like this is bullshit. The heads out. Jeff was a mechanic. The whole family was very into cars. His great great uncle was a founder of the Royal Automobile Club of Victoria, an organizer of the first Australian race in 1905 from Sydney to Melbourne. And Peter's dad took him to
Starting point is 00:09:27 races a lot. So he's into racing. Okay. His brother Phil said, quote, Peter was very short and he was stubborn as a mule. He wasn't a lovely kid at all. That's what happens when you share a room. Yeah. Just like absolutely hate each other. Oh no, just the cum getting all over you. Yeah. Oh, too far. Right. I left it classy. Tree baiting. He's doing the cum stuff. That's not cool. No wonder that's probably what's in the engine. Bunch of brother cum. All right, go ahead. Brother cum. What you doing? Peter was Peter was in the car. Brother cum. What you doing? Yeah. His next song's a bit crazy. Brother cum. What you doing? Wow. These are your
Starting point is 00:10:30 other brothers. So Peter buried the cars at seven. He was driving old Fergie a tractor and the family Chevy Chuck truck on the farm. So seven years old. He's driving. Okay. He's very adventurous. He's a risk taker. Peter, quote, I was into running the fastest, jumping the highest. And in someone, if someone gave me a double dare, I'd take it. Fortunately, my parents allowed me to be me. Okay. Sounds kind of like most kids in a way, but yeah. Yeah. He's very, very naturally competitive. He was a very good Aussie rules football player. Okay. His first car was an Austin seven that he bought when he was 12 for five pound. He bought it
Starting point is 00:11:16 for five pounds. Yeah. Five pounds. $10. I was selling that. I think he said he bought off a teacher. Sure. Well, no questions there. Just buy a car off my teacher. Okay. Well, there's reasons it costs five pounds. So first it didn't have brakes. No brakes. Okay. Right. That's problematic. Second, it didn't have a body. As you can see, was it just the engine we saw in the bucket earlier? Well, I want to be more accurate about that. It did come with the body, but he took it off with his mother's axe. His mom had an axe. She chopped stuff wood in the backyard when she's like nine months pregnant. Correct. So he there. The car
Starting point is 00:12:01 had no brakes and had a body, but he removed the body. He took the body off. That seems to me like a off decision making. It's good. Okay. All that was left was the chassis, the rails, chassis rails, engine, driveline, steering wheel, and a plank of wood for a seat. Okay. So to any normal normal person having a car without brakes or body, that's that's a problem. But for Peter, it said it made him a better driver. He stopped by downshifting and sliding sideways. He stopped by downshifting. So he just slow. I mean, could have been miles before you like felt comfortable doing that. Just downshifting. He just did it on the
Starting point is 00:12:43 farm. Yes. So he's just going in circles until the car eventually stopped. Well, you do. Yeah. I mean, you downshift and slide to stop. Right on a skateboard or whatever. Well, yeah, there's a difference. I'm not seeing it. Okay. I remember when I was in high school, this guy bought a car and he was like, it does not brakes. And I was like, what are you doing? Yeah. And he goes, I'm just gonna downshift. But again, that's not like that. That like slows a car. Well, he didn't make it home. He died. Shut up. And I was no, I swear to God. And I was like, why are you being so light about this? You're like snickering a little bit through
Starting point is 00:13:20 it. Who the fuck does that? Who's like, I'm gonna downshift home. This is a story about a friend of yours who died. Not a friend. It's a guy I knew in high school. I mean, look, idiots have to go. Like at some point, at some point, you're like, yeah, that wasn't gonna work out. Like if he didn't die of that, he was gonna like run into a wall. Like he's dumb. I think that's how we died. I had a fun light story. I mean, literally someone told me died. I was like, yeah, I mean, what, how else was that going to happen? What kind of grieving you are? Not a human. Your friend died. He's not my friend. Well, who the fuck is he? You're talking to him.
Starting point is 00:13:57 He's a guy in the parking lot. He's a guy in the parking lot. He's a guy in the high school parking lot. So he's just talking to you. He's like, hey, want to go for a ride? No brakes. Come on. That's what happened. No way. He asked me if I want to go for a ride in his new car. And you didn't know him. Well, he, no, I knew him. Okay. Well, this plot's thickening, isn't it? It's not a friend, though. He's just a guy you knew who offered you a ride in his car. That sounds like what I would call a friend. And he passed away on you. And you're hurting, aren't you? Let's remember how I felt when my father died.
Starting point is 00:14:34 You immediately accused me of murdering him. It's literally your first text. Well, did you? We haven't gotten to the bottom of that. No, no. I just put him in a brakeless car and told him to downshift. I think that every single night you went into his room and put a funnel in his mouth and poured whiskey in there. Killed my papa. You're saying that I did that? Yes. All right. Let's do the oil change, Mr. Anthony. There you go. Shift change. Sorry, your friend died. Thank you. So he spent just days and days and days driving on the dirt roads on the farm. He had a natural gift. He decided to rebuild the engine of his Austin, and he now,
Starting point is 00:15:27 they'd built another room for two of the older boys. So he shared it with his younger brother, who liked everything nice and clean and tidy, but then Peter decided to rebuild the engine in the bedroom. So what's the deal with the parents? They're just like just kind of shuffling the kids around, and then that's it. Then they're kind of just like... I don't know. You see your kid, he has a hobby, you're like, oh, that's cool. Yeah, but like, I mean, bring like an engine in your room. He doesn't have a lot of space to himself. It's his room. I mean, again, I would say that most parents would be like, hey, no. These are the same parents who were like,
Starting point is 00:16:03 you don't need brakes. So maybe not great. Right, okay. So his younger brother wasn't happy because there was oil everywhere, and a pool seeped into the floorboards, and Ruth then lost it. So there you go. Okay. His dad pretended to be angry, but it was actually proud. I'm proud of you. Well done. You're a good kid. So Peter's not a good student. Sure. He does the bare minimum. He got a job in the Parks Department of a Holden dealership. He's not good at this job. Sure. Friend Al Hamely, quote, he used to love to rubbish palms and wogs. Sure. Okay, keep going. Nobody has any questions as far as what that means. They're not good terms.
Starting point is 00:16:51 What does that mean? Say it again. Wogs, I think, would be their version of wop, I believe, right? Tell me, let me hear the quote again. Was that right? Yeah. So wogs, so he used to love to rubbish palms and wogs. Okay. So palms are, I assume, another race? English. Oh, fuck yeah. I'm a palm. Now, is that a negative turn from the English? If I say it to English people, will they get upset? No, don't tell him that. Fucking palm. No, that's the guys. That was so obvious. Fucking dirty fucking palm. My mother's a pom-pam. Pom-pom. Pom-pom. Okay. He used to love to rubbish palms and wogs. Enough. We get it. One time, it was busy as buggery. Everyone was yelling. Who wrote,
Starting point is 00:17:50 did you write this? Who wrote this? It's a quote. It's a quote from the guy, his friend. What? This guy's like, I'm going to win in most Australian. Yeah. One time, it was busy as buggery. Everyone was yelling in Italian, I assume he says Italian, pushing and shoving. Only Brock was there behind the counter. Brock jumped up on the counter and shouted, is there anyone here who isn't a bloody wog? And two Aussie guys called out and he said, well, come up here and I'll fix up you first. The rest of you guys, shut up. So that's a fun story. Yeah. There's some insight into the guy now. I love that a friend of his was just telling this fun story. That's great. You know, it comes off terrible in that story. Those Italians.
Starting point is 00:18:52 It's also amazing for the Australians to be comfortable to be like, I'm Australian. Oh, great. Excuse me, Italian. Pardon, Italian. Excuse me, Wargate. So he's very into girls and cars. Back then, drinking and driving wasn't illegal. Simpler times. Better times. Thank you. Better times indeed. Quote, not sure how many of my cars he rolled, but it would have to be at least six or seven. What the fuck? It was usually when he was pissed. Sober, he was a fantastic driver. Yeah. That's not like unique to him. You got to see this guy drive sober. He doesn't flip his car. It's unbelievable how good he is sober.
Starting point is 00:19:41 Flipping cars, six or seven cars. Yeah. Drunk. Yeah. Why did it become illegal? I don't know. I don't know either. In 1965, he was what we in the US would call drafted. Okay. He did two years in the National Service in the Army Health Department. When he got out, he married his high school girlfriend, Heather, who was also a car racer. Okay. And he started racing. Okay. So in September 1968, he won his first race and then got divorced. That's how you celebrate. A lot of people drink milk, shoot champagne. I'm leaving you. Now that I'm a fucking winner, you're out. By 1969, he'd won over 100 races. He's a huge crowd pleaser, but he's not making money.
Starting point is 00:20:36 So successful driver, Harry Firth, so he offered Peter a deal to race on his team, which became HDT, the Holden dealer team. Sure, because he worked at Holden dealerships, where he check you out and at the wogs. Holden is Holden is the big car company in Australia at the time. Okay. Still? We're going to get there. It's not fucking Jesus Christ. Talk about fucking upsetting the crowd. I just said they were answering me. They weren't upset with me. Holy shit. Why don't you just stab them in the heart? Your friend died. That didn't upset them as much. They're fine with that. My friend died, but they're all. So he was your friend. No. Jacques Hughes. Jacques Hughes. Seems like someone's Holden a lot inside. For some reason, the Holden
Starting point is 00:21:36 car company had to pretend they weren't funding HDT. Well, they should have probably changed the name. So they have this racing team, but they're acting like they're not funding it and secretly giving money to the racing team. Like self launderers like that. It's so blatant. Well, they're pretending that the money is all going through the dealer network. So they're giving money to the dealers to give to HDT. So it looks like the dealers are all funding the racing team. Okay. Why don't we just move ahead. It's a little sticky. So first built Peter a new car. Now Peter has amazing talent. First got Peter into the Bathhurst in 69. That's your big race, right? Everyone gets very excited about it. The Bathhurst? It's
Starting point is 00:22:22 like a really long endurance street race, right? Is that what it is? Nope. Everyone said yeah. And then that guy goes, no. You were all just sort of saying, yeah. Oh, it is a track race. Oh, okay. I thought it was a street. Okay. So Bathhurst was and still is regarded as the premier motorsport event in Australia. Okay. HDT finished third, eventually losing to another Holden team. Wait, so hold this. Wait, so is that why they don't want it? I don't want to dip too far into it, but Holden is a team that they're comfortable saying they fund and then they've got like their side team? No, I don't think that's it. So they're just racing themselves? Are all the teams Holden? Yeah, it's 26 Holden teams.
Starting point is 00:23:05 Oh, what are the odds? We've won again. Christ. But he reached the podium. He came in third. First expected Peter to be working every day in the workshop. But according to another driver, quote, Peter didn't know what a fucking clock was. What a clock was like a real clock? Time didn't make any difference to him. He didn't know what an actual clock was. Okay. He probably had sun dials growing up. So he was just like, he'd come to work with a shadow blow the candles out. It's time for bed. He came to work at 11am. He never knew what time it was. What time is it? Should I be here or should I be sleeping or am I late? What is time? Who am I? Who am I even? First called him a lazy bastard. But he's a very
Starting point is 00:24:03 good driver. He wins. He wins Bathurst in 72. Okay, well, it becomes an overnight national sports hero. Okay. So then he's then he's hanging out with famous people just like that. Yeah. He became an instant sensation. He's engaged to Karen McPherson. But he has an affair with Miss Australia. Oh, wow. Shelled downs. Karen finds out his fiancee finds out that he slept with Miss Australia when the papers write that he's marrying her. Oh, Jesus. Okay, right. That's a good way to break up with your fiancee. Absolutely. The best way to do it. Yeah. Yeah. Just let nature take its course. Just let it be pretty awkward for a while and then the papers will break the news to her. So they end up arguing a
Starting point is 00:24:50 lot. They fight a lot. Marriage only lasts for the year. Michelle is. Or to Peter, you know, roughly a long time. Michelle is adamant that he's abusive. Okay. Well, so the comedy is going to take a break. Let's take a break there. Got to throw in that. But that's that's what she says. Peter was very full of himself, which also upset the HDT mechanics and Firth. A mechanic quote. He was out rooting all night. Now to our American listeners, you're picturing a man cheering all night. As I've learned in my time in Australia, rooting is Australian for fucking. Rusty's a hand job. Go ahead. And when you say I root for the Warriors, Australians lose their shit. Yeah. Oh, yeah. No, I'll let you, I'll do
Starting point is 00:25:54 you one better. When you say I'm rooting penguins, they think that's not cool to say. But it is. I was, to be fair, at the time I was rooting penguins. He was actually rooting penguins for them. I was rooting. He has a box at home. Actually. No, no, don't help. Don't help. Don't help. Do not help me. Don't help me. Don't help me or talk anymore. Don't help me or talk. No, Dave, come on now. Little fairy. No. He fucks them. No, no, no. And that's why they're going extinct. No, to be fair, I was cheering for them in the story where you had them turned into oil. But so he was, he was out fucking all night. Pedgements? No, no, we're not, we're beyond that. No, no, he was, Peter Brock was out fucking all
Starting point is 00:26:57 night. Yes. Which was problematic for his wife for some reason. The best woman in Australia. Quote, he was out rooting all night and very hard to get started in the morning. Gotta crank him up. As the dad looked at the engine. Come on, Peter. So, so he's out fucking all night and she's like, I know the solution. I just got to get his dick hard. And she's model teeing him in the bed. Well, she's gone. She left. Oh, she's gone. Yeah, they're, uh, oh no, she said the marriage last of the year. Right. Yeah, but he's out fucking all night and then out with late. He just getting late. He's a race car driver in Australia. You can just fuck like crazy. Sure. For sure. Okay. It's the law. Right. Um, so he's, he's
Starting point is 00:27:50 always, he always, I'm going to continue the quote. He always had to have bacon and eggs and Vegemite, a cup of tea and five Marlboro cigarettes. Oh my God. He only got to first workshop reasonably on time. Well before lunch, because he lived two and a half minutes away. It feels like the success has gone to his head a little bit, but also he's, he's a, he's a race car driver. He's doing what he's supposed to do. Well, yeah, but they're, but they still expect him to like show up and work. Yeah. They wanted to work on the cars and stuff, but also, but he doesn't give a fuck cause he's like winning races and he's just fucking all right. Smoking five cigarettes for breakfast with bacon. He didn't get into it to fucking
Starting point is 00:28:32 work in a garage. He got into it to work for him. Relax and sound really like, let the guy root. All right. First was told to that Peter go by Holden due to the bad press from the divorce. Okay. So now he's on his own as a race car driver. His dad becomes his mechanic and he won his first four races. Victoria introduced a new blood alcohol content limit of 0.05%. That's by the way, that's pretty, that's really fucking great. I mean, especially in this country, you guys must have been fucking up so bad for them to go. That's not a lot. No, it's like, it's like a beer. It's like half a Buddha beer. He, uh, Peter became the front
Starting point is 00:29:20 man for the ad campaign and this became the person who was like, don't drink and drive unless you're me, then fucking bloody, yeah, go for it. Why did they pick him? I don't know because he's now Keith Richards with an anti drug message. Because he's like a big racer like that. They didn't, he was like, I've flipped a bunch of cars. So he and two friends would party quite a bit, but Peter was not good at part. Oh, so his car becomes 0.05. That's that becomes his number because of the blood alcohol. Nice. But it's not 0.05. It's 0.05. Yeah, yeah. Well, I know, but he's like, whatever, 0.05. The new blood alcohol numbers 0.05. Now that might sound like not a lot, but that's actually two bottles of
Starting point is 00:30:17 whiskey legally. Pretty fair. If you ask me, a man who's flipped half a dozen cars. He and two friends party quite a bit, but Peter was not good at it. One friend said, quote, he had to pay himself two or three drinks and he was on the floor. He was genuinely Mr. 0.05. I would feel no wonder he was flipping so many cars. So he just had a low tolerance. Yeah, he would just get shitfaced really quick. It's not a lot of super drunks or have such a low tolerance. That's admirable. So Peter's more of a ladies man than drinking man. Okay. He met Beverly McIntosh. She was married to one of Peter's friends. Nice. But the marriage wasn't going well. So take her. It's fine. That's how it works. You get this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:09 When she told Peter, she was thinking of leaving her husband. Peter told her to move in with him, which is what you do if you're a friend. Absolutely. Absolutely. The friend, the friend didn't seem to care. He was like, yeah, yeah. Right. It's natural. That's how it's supposed to go. Our time's coming to an end. So you guys should just merge your stuff. Another friend of theirs said, quote, I think he was happy to get rid of her. Now, women feel like they don't have a lot of value in this story to me so far. Now, Beverly and this guy already had a son. He really did. Okay. Whose name was Brock? What? So predictive birthing. She called her shot. So the new, so he's, they didn't want to call him Brock Brock. Oh my
Starting point is 00:32:02 god. They had to call him Brock. I am Brock Brock. Brock Brock. Brock Brock want to see real dad. Brock Brock miss real dad. All right, Brock Brock, settle down. Going to your box. Brock Brock hate box. All right, Brock Brock, relax. I think we should have given that boy a real name. It's like an animated character. Brock Brock. So that's exactly why they changed his name to Jamie. Jamie. Jamie, they just named him Jamie. What, like age 12, like you're Jamie now. So they would actually stay together for 28 years. Holy shit. Didn't see that coming. Friend Tim Penderton, quote, she had to ignore Peter's activities because it was going to happen anyway. So she just is like cool with him. Well, that's always the dude's friends.
Starting point is 00:33:16 Just fucking Jake, man. He likes to fuck. Like if she, if she wants to have him as their husband, then he's gonna, he's, he's got to fuck. He doesn't know what time is, but he's got a sundial between his legs. So it's just, it's who he is, man. He's a fuck, he's a fuck guy. So it comes with the, comes with the deal. Let's guys suck it up. Let's guys just get a fuck a bunch. So he's one of these guys who loves to fuck. So yeah, super rare. Yeah. Peter used to specialize in hiring. So this is what the friend says. Peter used to specialize in hiring secretaries. I know one of the receptionists that had to hire one of them. She was told to hire someone who looks really good and is prepared to fuck Brock to give
Starting point is 00:34:03 him some relief. Oh my God. See, this is what he grew up in a room. He became like a chimpanzee because he grew up in a room of like testosterone with his other brothers. The fuck are you blaming this on having brothers? Oh, I'm sorry. What's the matter? Your friend died. You didn't care. You're going to take it out on me. Cheers to my bro. Whatever his name was, whatever his name was. Okay. So part of the job is that you've got to fuck him for relief. Yeah. Because he's again, he's a gorilla man. Well, he had to see he was saying that he was under a lot of stress. So you got to get a fuck secretary. Absolutely. Change his oil as a twer. Sorry. So the energy is taking a real dive here in the last two minutes. The HD team becomes the Marlboro
Starting point is 00:34:52 Holden dealer team. Peter already smoked Marlboro. So this was a purpose. I like that he's driving a car for cigarettes and the number is the legal limit that you can like to not drive. And I love that back there. It's just Marlboro special mild because we've taken COVID and done the same thing we do as cigarettes. It's mild. Peter used to keep a pack of cigarettes and a lighter in the glove box of his race car in case the car broke down so he could have a smoke. Sounds like his priorities were a little out of whack maybe. That's like the best most seventies thing ever. God smoking is great. Yeah. Especially around all that gasoline and absolutely. It just the car comes to a stop slowly. Yeah. And everyone's watching it. And then like two minutes later, person. Brock is
Starting point is 00:35:58 fucking there. Brock is ignited. So the team is now MHD T and they're looking for a new driver. They're the perfect match. And Peter's back. Okay. Back with HGT. So in 1979, Holden announced they were getting out of the racing game, which was weird because the company had been pretending it wasn't in the racing game. Right. People are like, that's a strange retirement. Well, it's tough. We're the heavy heart today. We are retiring from something that we were not doing. We swear to God. But we're done. And it's emotional. 20 years of not doing this. Looking back at all those non memories. Gosh. I'll never forget what didn't happen. Holden said it was because the factory team was crushing too many others, including dealer teams. So he's like, we're just too good. So
Starting point is 00:36:57 we can't doesn't happen. That's not we're just something else. We've never uncovered. So they said it was to level the field. That's why they're getting out. Nobody does that. That's what that's never happened in sport. It's happened. I'm done. I guess Michael Jordan. In truth, the CEO wanted to spend more money on research and development. So Peter got bank loans. And with the dealer's help, he bought MHDT. And part of the deal was he would produce a limited edition MHDT modified Holden Commodore only sold by dealers who were kicking into the racing team. I'm sorry. So he's going to sell. Yes, he's going to take a Holden Commodore, which is a type of sedan. Sure. And he's going to trick it out like it's a race car. Right. And then the dealers are
Starting point is 00:37:55 going to sell his special Peter Brock. Peter. Right. Okay. So it's like his fancy. Holden. Right. Okay. He's got his own car. Holden would send him factory cars. He'd make alterations and they would become H D T special vehicles. Wait, so sorry. In my head, it was like this was a line of cars, but he just gets a car fucks with it. And then they just sell his kind of random car. Exactly. So he's just making weird tweaks to the car. 100%. He's like getting a boy in the back. Brock Brock. No, Brock Brock. He's like getting a Honda Civic and like, paint or something on it and putting a flare and being like, how about that? There's feces in this car. It's special edition. Okay. So sometimes they were are we getting those new special edition
Starting point is 00:38:47 cars? I haven't figured out what to do to this one just yet. So probably deflate the tires. It's really hard to keep making these different, you know, bit off a lot. So sometimes the race cars made available for sale. Other times they were standard holding cars with minor bike. Very special. It's a Brock special with minor modifications and stowed to look like race cars. So Peter now owns Australia's premier racing team and he asked to design a car. The first HDT special vehicles Commodore was delivered on October 1980. Writer Wayne Webster, quote, it was an in your face machine. What looks like a tennis bag. And in your face machine.
Starting point is 00:39:45 You ever seen anything like this? Yeah, these are most cars of this era. Looks like all cars. It's just like a white car with like three stripes. Can you believe it? Peter, what was your inspiration? Well, I looked at another car and I was like, I'll just do that. And there it is. We've taken a car that looks like all cars and made it look like all cars again. The new Peter Brock. Only one exists. So it has a rear spoiler and flare guards. Sure. That means a lot to me. And a bold red black and white striping. I mean, I mean, it is like shining shit to be like, that's bold. It's so bold. Look at that bold stripe that you've seen on everything of this era. So the car sold super fast. People were like,
Starting point is 00:40:42 wow. Have you ever seen a car? He must have been like shitting his pants like I did a terrible job. And the people like, whoa, dude. How the fuck? You're a genius, man. Wow. That's got seats on the inside and everything. Look at these turn signals so you can tell which way. Wow. He around this time, Peter sold signed a deal with Bridgestone. He keeps winning races. He's so dominant that he got the nickname the king of the mountain from his many wins at Mount Panorama and where Bathurst is held. Sure. Yep. So let's do a big ad. He's at the top of his game. At this point, he looks unbeatable. The company's taken off. He has 130 employees. Bev is pregnant again. People lose their shit when the next HTT special commiter comes out.
Starting point is 00:41:45 I can't wait to see what this is. 1982. What the fuck? I feel like he's just like stealing car. This is not a very, this is even more basic. Yeah, this makes the other one look like it's worth the freak out. This is just the blue car from the seventies. This is every blue car. It has this thing on the side of stripe. It's like, it's not even a stripe, Dave. I just think that's metal. Yeah, that's metal. It's got metal on the side, but it has a, on the back, it's got the spoiler. Could they not clean the, it looks like they cleaned the cars inside with the Vaseline from the previous ad. This isn't coming off. I can't even see. It feels like I'm over the limit and I'm sober. Rock, rock. Oh, there's a baby in here. And that's probably
Starting point is 00:42:32 explained. There's a lubed up baby in here. It looks like it's fresh out of the womb, but it's got to be 12. It is just greased like a hog. So this cell, this car fucking sells hot. What is happening with the, why are you buying this car like that? This thing is crazy. Holy shit. It's blue. It's got breaks. The list goes on and on. It's like a Mad Max. Oh my God. It's really ordinary. It's really like, it's like, yeah, it was like a car. I would be like, no, I don't know. It's just blue. Well, he made it look like that. So it sells great. Peter Brock and Holden are now completely tied together. The Holden boardroom is discussing how to keep building up the Peter Brock brand. Look, how do we tie? I mean, look,
Starting point is 00:43:21 we topped the white car with three stripes. Somehow we came up with baby blue. I say we just retire on top. We're not going to be able to come up with another car that this amazing. My God, the greasy windows, the four tires, headlights, headlights, amazing windshield wiper. It's just crazy. Yeah. The fact that it runs on, what did you call it again? Petroleum jelly? That's right. You must be exhausted from just thinking of any car you've seen in anything. When I see a car, I think how could that be different? Could it be blue? Oh, stop. Come on. Honestly, it's like talking to Einstein. You're losing me again. How do you do it? So they're trying to figure out ways to blow them up more. Holden,
Starting point is 00:44:25 people consider giving him a dealership in each capital city. But he didn't want that. He wanted to race and he wanted to make cars. Well, he can't focus on the creative car. I mean, he's inventing so many car styles. He's taken up a lot of his time. It probably took eight minutes to come up with those two cars. So Holden is now directly supporting MHDT, being very successful. He's live in large, but his health starts to suffer. He's getting in rough shape. Peter, according to a Jopnik article, quote, lived like you'd expect an Australian racing driver of the 70s to have lived lots of booze and cigarettes and fiberglass particle inhalation. Right. So I guess there was a lot of fiberglass in the cars and breaking up and getting in the air.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Sure. In the air, sure. So he makes it go at Le Mans. It doesn't go over well. It doesn't work well. The Australia media notices when he comes back from Le Mans that he looks really bad. And one Australian journalist decided he had cancer. He's like, well, this guy's... The Australian journalist was like, that's cancer. Yeah. So we don't even need to ask him about it. I know cancer when I've seen it. He has it for sure. Look at him. He's tired. He's sweaty. He just got out of a car. Think of all that fiberglass in his hair. He smokes cigarettes. He's got terminal cancer. I'm 100 percent.
Starting point is 00:46:03 So, Bev sent him to Dr. Eric. He doesn't need to go to a doctor. I've pretty much... If you have any questions, you can shoot him this way. What do you want to know about his... No, I understand that he has cancer. So we're going to send him to a doctor. You send him... I'm right here. What do you need to know about his dying from cancer? You're just a journalist. Like, you're... I'm going to send him to a doctor to, you know, help him. Ready to... Do you have questions about what we should do to save him? You're a sports writer. And I'm wearing a lab coat. Please call me doctor. I won't. We need to put him in intensive treatment right away.
Starting point is 00:46:45 What is that? He will start smoking more. This is the 70s. I don't think you know how anything works. Have you tried petroleum jelly? It can be quite effective. We need to get a bunch of jelly into your husband. Just me. There's a lot of jelly in my husband. Well, I've been off put so much. I don't think I want this case anymore. So, Bev sends him to doctor... Sorry, doctor... Dr. Eric Dauker. There's a chiropractor in... I mean, chiropractor. So you're telling me a journalist was trying to tell you what to do with your husband's cancer?
Starting point is 00:47:30 I hate when people try to swing out of their league. I work with cracking backs. So I'll probably be able to figure out what we need to do to save your husband. Does his back hurt? Because I could crack it. If that's not what it is, we might want to get the journalist in here for a second opinion, because... Have you ever cracked the cancer out of somebody? I can't say that I have, but by the same token, I can't say that I haven't. A lot of people feel better when they come to me. Yes, if you crack his back, that doesn't really do anything, though.
Starting point is 00:48:05 Well, we've not tried. I've seen people come in here who are dead, and then they've walked out of here singing. So you're telling me you're healing dead people? You said it, but yeah. So he's not just a chiropractor, he's also a natural health healer. We need to crack your husband's back in some plants. Now, Bev had been on board with Dr. Dalker's healing ways for a while. Dalker was also treating, at this point, Peter's mom and his brother, Lewis.
Starting point is 00:48:46 For other stuff. Back pain? Motor oil problems? Sure. Dalker was a big promoter of New Age health methods. He got Peter... Which in the 70s were fucking crazy. Oh, the best.
Starting point is 00:49:01 So he actually got Peter to do some very smart things. Got him on a vegetarian diet. He stopped smoking and drinking. It seems like a pretty softball to be that doctor. Well, he's got cancer. We can't have him smoking anymore. Interesting. Very, very revolutionary techniques.
Starting point is 00:49:21 So this had an amazing effect. From the book Peter Brock, How Good Is This? by Walter Webster. Quote, his body started ridding itself of all the toxins he had ingested. Glass fibers literally emerged from the pores of his skin. Oh, come on. And he started to feel fantastic. Shut the fuck up. He's turning into, like, pinhead?
Starting point is 00:49:43 He's got fiberglass popping out of his face? Peter, there's more. I know. This is crazy. Oh, I do stop drinking and all this came out of me. Now I'm like a bed of needles. Because fiberglass is in your body going, I need booze. And if he can't get it, it's like, we must get to the bar.
Starting point is 00:50:04 Okay. Okay. I mean, that's not true. No, he said, that's what he said. Okay. So he says he starts to feel fantastic. He told his close friends something else happened in Le Mans to affect his health. The flag marshal had been asleep with his head resting on the guardrail.
Starting point is 00:50:23 Sorry. So who's the flag marshal? Oh, the race guy? Yeah. Flaggy? He's a flaggy guy. Okay. So he was taking a nappy nap during the race.
Starting point is 00:50:33 The flag guy is taking a nap during the race? I think it's a long raceway. Does Le Mans, like, sit the super long? I don't care if it's a long race. If that's your job, you stay up for this time period. You try. Woo! What lap are they on?
Starting point is 00:50:44 I'm gonna kip out for a while if that's cool with everybody. He's taking forever. Also, like, who puts their head on a guardrail to go to sleep? Oh, that's nice. That's a pillow. That's good. So the guardrail got hit by a car. It's not a great guardrail.
Starting point is 00:51:02 And his neck was snapped and he was killed. Oh, okay. Well, I wish that I'd just let you get it out. Is it too late to go see Dr. Chiropractor? Yes, very much. Okay. Now, where does it hurt? This is one of my tougher cases.
Starting point is 00:51:17 So what happened was Peter said the French flag man's spirit entered his body. What the fuck? So this guy dies and then Peter's like, Oh, my Lord, I can't believe I woke up. All I was supposed to do was wave this chicken flag. But no, oh, Creston Matty. Look at all this fiberglass popping out of my pores.
Starting point is 00:51:45 Whoa. Whoa. This is a wife. We're lead. That's exactly what happened. Wow. So Dr. Dalker had performed some sort of exorcism. Okay. So this chiropractor is like really just.
Starting point is 00:52:06 Look, he knows a lot of stuff. So, okay. So Peter thinks that the French flag guy went into his body because it's sorry, did because of Dr. Chiropractor. No, the French guy went into his body and then the Dr. Dalker got rid of him through an exorcism. Oh, then the doctor was like, all right. Well, I can try to crack him out of your back.
Starting point is 00:52:30 Hopefully that'll work again. I am simply a chiropractor. Let's hope this works. Oh, that's crazy. Stop doing that. He's in your spine, Peter. Enough already. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:58 So he gets rid of the spirit. So Peter is now 100% on board the Dr. Dalker train. He's like, this guy's amazing. He's great. He cured me of the cancer that we don't know if I actually had. Fiberglass is coming out of my face and he took the French guy out of my back who I saw die. This guy is unbelievable.
Starting point is 00:53:13 You got to see this guy. He's the best doctor I've seen so that journalist who just said he was a doctor. Now, Dalker was also very into the healing powers of crystals. Nice. There it is. And Bev is also very into crystals. Nice.
Starting point is 00:53:32 So soon Peter is all in on crystals. Nice. Now, Malboro is Peter's biggest sponsor and clearly that's not going to work with this new lifestyle. Right. So the company was out and a new sponsor, Mobile Oil, was in. But Peter never talked to Malboro. Okay.
Starting point is 00:53:49 He'd been with him for years. He just stopped talking to them and he had like friends of the company. Well, I mean, you just like you can quit smoking but to quit them as a sponsor called Turkey. He never talked to them again. They just didn't know. That was it.
Starting point is 00:54:02 I'm like, are we still doing business? Hello. I'm representing Peter now. I'm his agent. I was the flag man who passed away. Now I live in this house plant. Have you met the chiropractor? Some crazy shit is happening over here to be quite frank with you.
Starting point is 00:54:26 So 1985 was a rough year. European cars had leaped ahead of Holden's. The Commodore was too slow. It was fragile. It was outclassed. Peter only won one race that year. Also in 1985, crystals started appearing around HDT in the offices. Nice.
Starting point is 00:54:49 And people were acting a bit different. Sure. But you mean because they were like, why are there crystals everywhere? Peter's second in command at the company, John Harvey. Okay. And he said he saw people dipping crystals into their tea and dangling them over their meals at HDT as it happens. Sure.
Starting point is 00:55:08 Absolutely. Yeah. Who hasn't done that? Harvey quote. We thought it was harmless if people wanted to believe in crystals for whatever reason. Who cares? By the way, that's how we all feel about crystals. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Yeah. You're like, everyone has like the person who's like, you're like, great. Good for you. I'm good. That's fine. I'm glad that that's helping you a lot. Then it developed a bit further than that. A couple of the mechanics found crystals strapped to the engine dyno or on the engine itself.
Starting point is 00:55:35 So Peter, this is a problem now because these are, we've kind of worked on all this stuff and you're popping crystals inside of it. So that's not how, that's not how this works. So, well, that's, you know, what I'm doing. So, a lot of these cars are breaking down because we're just finding crystals. You put a bunch of crystals in the gas. Are they breaking down because there aren't enough crystals in them? No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:56:02 Because they were working great and they were great cars. And then there's just all these, maybe you can't just put crystals in some of these. You can. You shouldn't. You will. You won't. We are. You should not.
Starting point is 00:56:13 You're gonna. Okay. That's going to be a problem then. I'm just telling you right off the bat that a lot of these cars won't start anymore. So much negative energy. I understand. And I have been, I have been eating the crystals like you said, but it has not been, I don't feel great to be honest.
Starting point is 00:56:34 They don't feel great about you. They're feeling what you feel. Right. You said that. Right. Okay. So you're, you're, you're bombing them out. Right.
Starting point is 00:56:44 And crystals need to feel your energy to give it back. Right. Okay. It's a loop. Right. Okay. All right. So, okay.
Starting point is 00:56:53 So these cars do work. Yeah. In a crystal sense. Oh yeah. They're crystal cars. Okay. I'm going to build the whole car of crystal. I mean, part of me wants to push back,
Starting point is 00:57:09 but I feel like you're going to give me more crystals if I do. Well, that's just negative. Yeah. Right. So I need more crystals to. Right. Okay. For sure.
Starting point is 00:57:17 This is on you. Yep. It's always good to talk to you. Yeah. Yeah. Come by my office anytime. All right. I'm going to get on my unicorn.
Starting point is 00:57:27 Okay. So a dino, the thing that the crystals are on is a device that measures the force or torque. Yeah. Now, now it has. I know what a dino is. It registers the torque of the crystals. Now it has crystals on it. So the theory is pretty simple.
Starting point is 00:57:47 If the crystals had improved Peter's health so greatly, imagine what they could do to a car. For sure. And Peter did a lot of research on the effects of crystals on the car's engine and came to the conclusion that he had found the future of automobile technology. Well, I mean, considering how often we now use crystals in our cars, he's right. Head of his time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:13 For sure. No one knows exactly when the crystal energy device was constructed or who built it. I feel like Peter probably built it and that's not great. So this is pretty cool. This is a crystal energy device. It was a magnet. This is a magnet.
Starting point is 00:58:38 And some bits of crystal that were held. I just sprinkled crystals on it like Salt Bay. Held together with a glob of resin. And then there's resin on it. And then the whole thing we just dip in petroleum jelly. And look at this. What can it do? Tim Bemberton, the H.D.T. publicist, named it the energy polarizer.
Starting point is 00:58:58 But he had no idea what it was supposed to do. Okay. He knew. It's a bunch of people maybe kind of just like wanting to get paid. And so they're kind of indulging in a delusion a little bit. Yeah. The boss is like, we're going to do this. And everyone's like, okay.
Starting point is 00:59:14 I mean, how hard? Wow. Sure. You want to make a crystal energy machine? That sounds great, boss. Yeah. It's just crystals. Like what's it going to, what's the harm really?
Starting point is 00:59:22 Right. Quote, I was practicing for a touring car round of the Sanddown 500. And I was just at the end of the back straight when I felt something bang on my foot. I knew it was metal. And my first reaction was that one of the mechanics had left a screwdriver or spanner or something in the car. So he rolled into the cockpit where he discovered it was the energy polarizer. This was the first time he realized they were secretly being put into the race cars.
Starting point is 00:59:53 And he was shocked. And it's just clanging around on the floor while he's trying to drive. It's like, yeah, that's right. You don't want to strap them down. They might not work. Fair point, Peter. Fair point. That's absolutely fair.
Starting point is 01:00:06 How big is the energy polarizer? It's like that. It's tiny. Okay. It's not that big. I was picturing like a speaker. No, it's not a huge. It's probably like half the size of a can or something.
Starting point is 01:00:14 Okay. Okay. Eventually, Peter explained to his team that the energy polarizer rearranged the molecules in a car, which made it more efficient, avoid rust, run smoother, and handle better. Manager and co-driver, Larry Birkin, tells Peter, you're acting crazy. And he, he was not a good student. So we've heard that he just was like a bit of a drunk. And now he's the one who's giving like crystal science lessons.
Starting point is 01:00:41 I'm never really a bit of a drunk. I think that, I mean the G, but He just flipped his car six or seven times hammered. Yeah. I mean, there's that. But he, he, that's just Australia. Sure. He's not wrong.
Starting point is 01:00:53 No. He, he, he more like thought he was hot shit at some point. And I think, regardless, there's no real scientific basis other than he started to see a plant chiropractor. He did not get a degree in crystals. Right. And now he's like explaining like how the molecules work with the crystals. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:12 Right. Okay. To prevent Rustin. Right. Right. So Larry Perkins, who's there, says, you know, you're acting crazy. You're doing damage to everyone who works the company's image. Because they don't have enough crystals around their energy.
Starting point is 01:01:25 So we need to figure that out ASAP. And so Peter fired him. You're fired. First of all, actually I'm going to let the crystals tell you why. Go ahead. Hey, we had to let Peter go because he had some bad stuff to say about crystals. So that's our line. That's where we are.
Starting point is 01:01:42 After that, people at HGT kept their opinions about the crystal situation. Everyone feel good about the crystals now? Is everyone feeling pretty good? Awesome. Nobody's saying anything? Great. So the whole company splits into two factions. There's those who believe in crystals and those who don't.
Starting point is 01:02:00 As crystal things really going on for a while, I sort of felt like we were hitting a lot of phases. Now there's those. By 1986, Brock is the most decorated racer in Australian history. He's got nine stand-down titles, eight Bathurst crowns, being fit and healthy for the first time ever. He put together an ambitious race schedule of Australia, New Zealand, Europe, and Asia. His latest special Holden is about to drop. This car better be covered in fucking crystals. The HDT director.
Starting point is 01:02:38 So it was designed to look sleeker and run better. Peter saw the director as one of the premier luxury sports cars of the era. The body and engine were not the big selling point for the director. It was a revolutionary new invention, the energy polarizer. It's like a keychain license plate. It's a little box with crystals. Peter Brock energy polarizer. It's a little box with crystals.
Starting point is 01:03:06 And what is this going to cost? This probably kicks your car up a notch. Well, if you get the option. You have the option to not have it? No, I don't know. So it's a plastic box with magnets and crystals attached to the body of the car with a single screw. If you describe that as that, Peter would take exception to the idea that it was simply a box of magnets and crystals. His explanation, which is completely made up, was that the energy polarizer harnessed the power of crystals to make the car incredible. That's just, I love, oh, there's nothing better than dumb smart guys.
Starting point is 01:03:52 It's the greatest. It just makes the car, you know, you're not understanding. It's not just a box of magnets and crystals. It's the energy polarizer. It's harnessing all of the energy around the car to make the car substantially better. It's also the crystallization of the molecular structure of the atomizer that is elevating the status of the volumes inside of the polarization chamber, which is a magnetic field in many ways, but it's also itemitizing a lot of different chemical reactions inside of the harnessed chamber, which is, again, popping and banging.
Starting point is 01:04:42 So it's totally important, and not a lot of cars are offering that. You can trust me, I'm the guy who invented the blue car and the car with the three stripes on the side. I know what I'm talking about. I basically grew up with chimp brothers who were just whacking off all day. Have you met the chiropractor who saved me from cancer that I didn't have? I just want to go. Well, the prior to the reason why you want to leave is because you've not taken a rip off of the energy polarizer yet. This is a vape.
Starting point is 01:05:22 So he sent the energy polarizer to GM, because GM is in business with Holden, right? So he sends the energy polarizer to GM in the US to have it tested at the Milford Proving Ground, which is like this sort of legendary proving ground that's very hard to get. So a bunch of scientists got like a little boy's science project, and they're like, we want you to test this to see what it does to the cars. He had to call in favors to get it done. Sure. No information from the test was ever released. Because they were just like, what the fuck is this? This looks like a toy.
Starting point is 01:06:02 Did it change the structure? Can you imagine the conversations that was happening at GM? They're like, he fucking sent us a box of crystals. Look, look, just pretend that it does something and see what you come back with. So how'd the testing go? It's really good, Peter. We found a lot of interesting stuff. It's really unbelievable. So you haven't told a lot of people about this, have you? Everybody. You haven't like publicly talked about this?
Starting point is 01:06:29 Everybody. We're changing the world. Since the combustion engine, has there been something this big? And when you say the combustion engine, what do you mean? The thing that combusts. And again, if I were to break that down a little further, what does that mean to you? The gas goes in. Are you talking about the engine? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:49 You're just putting terms around things it feels like, which is great. Look, we love the way that a child designed this. Crystal. Right. Oh, wow, Peter. You felt it, right? Yeah. Look at all the fiberglass coming out of my pores.
Starting point is 01:07:09 What a spell. Isn't Peter fantastic, everybody? So when the test was over, Peter thought GM was going to put energy polarizers in all GM cars. And that would make Peter and Dauker rich beyond words. So it's not necessarily for him about changing the automobile industry. He's looking to get money from his crystal. I think it's both. Right.
Starting point is 01:07:40 In 1987, HDT, the director had the energy polarizer as standard in the vehicle. At this point, there's like fucking no turning back. They're in Brock's name. Well, you can't really turn the car because the energy polarizer is probably like caught in the steering chamber or something. Brock's name. And more importantly, the Holden brand is synonymous with what people think is just fucking pseudoscience nonsense. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:11 So people are finally like, what the fuck is he talking about? Right? Yeah. So Holden, yeah, word's getting out. So Holden now is freaking out. Because he's got his energy polarizer. Because it's basically showing up with a flux capacitor. Yeah, he's made up a thing.
Starting point is 01:08:27 We could time travel now. We could start this all earlier. And if we drive over.05 intoxicated, we go back to the Vaseline campaign. So the big problem is that Holden. I know the big problem. Holden cars have warranties. So the crystals are an actual legal problem with performance claims that could be made about a box of crystals.
Starting point is 01:09:03 What do you mean? Like someone could be like this box of crystals. So Holden is like, we can't put something out there that doesn't do anything. Because then people could say it doesn't do anything and they want money back. It's a fucking shit show. Right. I mean, basically they could get sued. It looks like an SD card, an empty box and a little nickel bag of weed.
Starting point is 01:09:23 Yeah. So Holden sets up a test at their proving ground. And they found no performance gain from the energy polarizer. And they refused to endorse the car. They had this tension between Holden and HDT. And a friend that leaves HDT at this point, he tells Peter to just fucking drop it, let it go. And John Harvey tells Peter he doesn't believe in it. He tested it and it makes no difference.
Starting point is 01:09:51 Peter then said for the polarizer to work. You have to believe in it. Tire pressure has to be at 22 psi. Which is essentially a flat tire. He wants all the cars to have flat tires. Because that's the only way the crystals fucking work. Uh-huh. Interesting tweak.
Starting point is 01:10:16 Well, are you inflating the tires? Yeah, it's a car. Well, that's a big problem. The polarizer hates that. Now Bridgestone is like, wait, what? Bridgestone a huge company's like, what's your plan? Why are you flattening the tires? Well, we can't inflate your tires.
Starting point is 01:10:32 Bridgestone's like, no, that's dangerous. If you didn't have an energy polarizer, it would be. So Holden tells Peter to stop putting energy polarizers in cars. Just fucking stop it. No, you stop taking them out. Right, Peter ignores them. The crystals have been known about for a while in the racing circles, but now the Australian media finds out.
Starting point is 01:10:58 So they obviously are like, what the fuck's happening? Holden decides to publicly... I can't believe how big of a player the energy polarizer is being. Holden decides to publicly give Brock and Dr. Balker the opportunity to explain themselves. Oh, yes. I don't like talking in front of people, Peter. I'm just a chiropractor, to be honest.
Starting point is 01:11:18 I really... According to Jobnik, quote, they refer to the mythical, organ, ornage. What? Okay, they refer to the mythical, organ, energy as ABA, energy to make it sound more scientific, suggesting that any molecules... Sorry. Any molecules in the, quote, sphere of influence, end, quote, are made to be, quote,
Starting point is 01:11:46 aligned to the direction of the high-energy transmission. Dude, they really... I mean, it is just gobbledygook, right? That's what I was doing before. That's what you're doing. You see, if you get close to the atomizer, you'll find that molecularly... They use a lot of...
Starting point is 01:12:02 Basically, they use a lot of big words to say. Crystals are really fucking... These are crystals. Look at this. Take a look. I'm gonna stake... I love the double-down. Like, everyone's like,
Starting point is 01:12:11 stop talking about your made-up thing. And he's like, now, you stop doubting my made-up thing. Wayne Webster said the media described Peter, quote, as having a few too many of Australian's favorite marsupials loose in his top paddock. Is that like a way of saying he has kangaroos in his brain? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:37 Okay. The media was now calling Dr. Dauker, Dr. Feel Good. I get this guy. I completely understand this guy's deal. 100%. He's being brought along. He's like, for sure.
Starting point is 01:12:51 Yeah, I'm a doctor. For sure. Yeah, I know how to deal with crystals. For sure. Yeah, they're magic. For sure. I'll look at the inside of an engine. Holy fuck.
Starting point is 01:13:00 This guy's got a lot of money. He is just amazing, though. This guy's just a fucking chiropractor natural healer guy. Now he's on a racetrack. Yeah. Like, people are like, do you know what you're doing? He's like, mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:13:10 Which one's the engine again? Just to be clear, just for those of us who don't know. Newspapers are saying... Does anyone's back hurt or anything? Because I'm actually really good at that sort of... Newspapers were saying Bev slept under a pyramid. Wait, who slept under a pyramid?
Starting point is 01:13:27 Bev is wife. Peter's wife. Under a pyramid? Yeah. Okay, and we're just kind of tossing that aside. I mean, there's just tons of shit. Okay. They're just making sure of...
Starting point is 01:13:35 She just has a home pyramid. Yeah. Okay, we'll just keep going. She's sleeping under a pyramid. Most stories are nonsense. She's like a pharaoh. Most stories are nonsense. But the truth,
Starting point is 01:13:44 the real truth is just fucking crazy. Sure. So the V.L. Brock director is still due to be released in early 1987. Holden said they want to test the car, but Peter never gave one to them, and then he unveiled it on January 20th, 1987. Oh, my God. At a black tie gala with media, politicians, and celebrities.
Starting point is 01:14:06 Oh, no. But he didn't tell Holden he was doing this. He just held a big event. Right. To release the car. Right. And that has a... It's not real.
Starting point is 01:14:17 Right. Holden cut him loose the next morning. Why? For that day. John Harvey resigned. Peter couldn't believe it and tried to get Harvey to change his mind. They just finished first and second in a race two weeks before. Then more people started resigning.
Starting point is 01:14:35 Dr. Dalker said, quote, we don't want to get stuck with negativity. We're going to need to come up with a whole new crystal invention, Peter. This is so many people are quitting and doubting us. We might have to come up with a ray gun. Again, I went to school for like three months. The day after the split when Peter and his brother shut up to HDT, there was no management.
Starting point is 01:15:02 Everyone had left. Okay. Peter remained defiant and thought Holden was out to destroy him and take his business. Bev said he was stabbed in the back by the people he trusted. So what to do now? Well, obviously go on 60 minutes and introduce them to the energy polarizer. Oh, Jesus, the triple down. He did an interview with wheels magazine and said, quote,
Starting point is 01:15:28 it's a magic cure. It makes... For what? It makes a shithouse car good. So now it has gone from like a like accompaniment to like a car is this... Bad car is great. Yeah, it fixes bad cars. Wow.
Starting point is 01:15:46 When pressed to respond to the skepticism, quote, there's never been any truly avant garde invention that hasn't received derision. I mean, sure there has. Yeah, like nobody was like x-rays. It's just a bug. I don't know. It might be a bug or a spider. I was noticing.
Starting point is 01:16:07 I think it's a little spider. It's a little baby. What the fuck are you doing? It's got healing powers. It's Australia. You don't go touching spiders no matter what size they are. The babies are okay. Oh.
Starting point is 01:16:20 So wheels... Genuinely don't know where he went. So wheels magazine wrote up a negative review of the director. Wait, who? Wheels magazine. They wrote a negative review after giving him an interview. Then they wrote up a shit review of the car. Why?
Starting point is 01:16:46 I don't know. What's their deal? Oh, it's because it's wheels and he's like deflate these. That's right. This is bad for business. When wheels made criticisms about the lack of suppleness in the ride, the need for a fifth gear and the lack of interior polish. The need for a fifth gear?
Starting point is 01:17:05 He's like, you don't need a fifth gear. This is crystals. Peter could only boast about the energy polarizer and the magic cure. So... So the media is now fucking loving it. The Australian media is like just going crazy. His business is in shambles. No cars are coming from Holden for him to put the energy...
Starting point is 01:17:23 They're just not sending him cars. Right. The thing about the atomizers, you don't even need a car. If you buy this thing, it'll make a car for you. It's a genie lamp. People aren't understanding. It turns out Peter didn't know anything about his business aside from cars. An old friend, Alan Gow, came in to help and said,
Starting point is 01:17:43 Peter didn't even have keys to the business. You don't need keys when you have the energy atomizer. You just hold it up to a lock and then a wall just lifts up. Yeah. His wife just leaves under a fucking pyramid, bro. He had let others handle everything. There's no money coming in. Just bills, there's taxes.
Starting point is 01:18:01 You don't need money or to pay bills when you have an energy atomizer. You just hold it to your pink bills and it pays them for you. Dude. Okay. Yeah. It's a crystal gun. Okay. Sounds like an idiot.
Starting point is 01:18:15 Go ahead. Peter still wanted to build the director and sell them. He thought his name could make it happen, but the dealers wanted nothing to do with it. So Peter tried to convince Gow, how the polarizer worked. Peter would sneak out and hook up the polarizer in Gow's Toyota. But Gow would know about it and he would take the polarizer out
Starting point is 01:18:38 and say the car wasn't running well and Peter would put a new one in. So he just kept putting polarizers in his car and going, see he's running better, right? And he'd be like, no, I took it out. You needed a new polarizer. What we need is a polarizer to fix the energy polarizer. We needed crystals for the crystals.
Starting point is 01:18:58 Yeah. We've got to throw more crystals at this car problem. So Peter caught a break. Bad Russian car company, Lada, approached and... I love how the Russians are always ready to be like, what do you have a problem? We have a car we think could use an energy atomizer that sounds pretty good.
Starting point is 01:19:16 So his business was sold to be used as an Australian base for Lada imports and they paid him to put his name on one of their cars. I mean, it really is what Segal did. Like, it was just like nobody would have him anymore. Yeah. And like the energy atomizer, nobody gives a fuck anymore, but Russia's like, yeah, this one's pretty.
Starting point is 01:19:36 Oh, does it work crystals? That sounds nice. So Peter keeps racing, but he has to ask, he doesn't have any money, he has to ask other races for parts. He finished third at Bathurst a few months later. In February, 1988, the city morning, Harold wrote, quote, two years ago, his mates would look you straight in the eye and tell you Brock could walk on water.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Since February last year, they have taken great pains to tell you he has a feet of clay in his very much yesterday's man. Then it was revealed that two cars that had finished in front of him at Bathurst were illegal, so he was the winner. So that is the worst fucking thing that could happen to him. Yes.
Starting point is 01:20:20 Because then he's like, I knew it. It fucking, yeah, it did that. My manifest box. Yeah. I love you, energy atomizer. Oh, really? We shouldn't. Well, I mean, Bev is asleep under that pyramid.
Starting point is 01:20:42 It's awful late. You do have that crystal hole. No. You shh. So, Bev, I'm leaving. I found someone I can give me so much more than you. It's the box with magnets and crystals. It took a lot of petroleum jelly to figure it out.
Starting point is 01:21:12 So this saves his racing team. Everyone thought he was done, but he proved he could do it without holding. He soon signed a deal with BMW. What are they doing? Mobile oil comes back the next year. Mobile had done research on how badly Peter's reputation had taken a hit, and it turns out he was more popular than ever.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Oh, what the fuck, you guys? Why did you do that? No. This is like America. Down is up. The Hustrayans fucking love him. He had always taken autographs. He had always taken time to sign autographs to people.
Starting point is 01:21:50 He was very kind to people. He's an all-around good guy with a great Aussie image. And in 1991, he was once again back driving with Holden. He returned to the Holden racing team in 1994. He retires in 1997. Now, when he comes back, is he still like, does he still have his crystal box, or is he fine with it? Does he use it as like an out to be like,
Starting point is 01:22:14 like it's not talked about anymore? So I don't know. It's like knowing a Scientologist kind of. He raised for a bit Bathurst and some others. He and Bev Split in 2005. In 2005, Peter reflected on weather. She really hung in there. And whether he lost friends over the crystal situation,
Starting point is 01:22:32 saying, quote, they probably thought I was a bit weird. They probably do think I'm a bit weird, but I've always marched to a different drumbeat, and that's just me. I don't think you should just try to fit in because you want peer approval. Too many of us live in fear of the disapproval of those around us.
Starting point is 01:22:51 That's not the lesson. Yeah. But it is, he did get like, because he could race, I mean, it's like athletes, like so many athletes are like, you know, not geniuses, but because they have a physical skill, you're like, okay, sure. Like when George Furman came out with that grill,
Starting point is 01:23:13 like it was like, nobody was like, like they called it like the fusion grill. It was like, George Furman was like, I created a grill that you like, no dude, you just wear a boxer who named all your kids George. It was a good, it was a good grill. I had one. Yeah, it's a fine grill, for sure.
Starting point is 01:23:29 But George Furman was not like inventing it. You don't know that. Okay. No, so he's still like, he had a crazy moment, but he's still a good guy and a good, like you can't, you don't erase it, right? Because he tried to put crystals. No, I am, I am offering a counterpoint to that actually.
Starting point is 01:23:50 I'm suggesting you do. I don't think so, because nobody got hurt. I mean, except his company and the people lost their jobs, but. Yeah, but I mean, again, I feel, I mean, what do I, okay, go ahead. He died on September 8th, 2006, when he crashed during a race in Western Australia. He was 61. He was given a Victoria State funeral.
Starting point is 01:24:11 He left three wills. It took three years to settle the court battles between family members. He left three wills? Yeah. I didn't know the guy died. I feel a little bad, but can I just say that, if, I never mind, I'm not going to say it. Wouldn't you think that he would have an energy atomizer in the car he was driving?
Starting point is 01:24:29 And wouldn't that kind of undercut everything we just talked about? And who leaves three wills? All right, will number, they're not like treasure maps. He's like, all right, here we go. Good luck on this one. Because Holden shut down production of the director almost immediately, the energy polarizer became valuable. Oh, shit.
Starting point is 01:24:58 Of course. It's just, there's no heroes. It's valuable. One sold in 2010 for $300,000. Who the fuck? Do you know who bought it? I don't know. Who the fuck?
Starting point is 01:25:17 A hero. Who the fuck? It's like, it looked like a trapper keeper. Interest led to Holden releasing a new car with an energy polarizer in 2001. Fuck. What? And what? They were like, the problem is your tires are inflated and that's not,
Starting point is 01:25:43 you got to drive on your rims for this thing to work, pal. The special edition commotor came with a special body kit, Peter Brock signature and an energy polarizer that Holden admitted didn't do anything. That's right. Pick one of these cars up right away. It's got an energy atomizer guaranteed to not do shit. Holden slowly went out of business. I wonder, do you think it had anything to do with their latest move?
Starting point is 01:26:13 There's the final Holden was made in Elizabeth, South Australia, a suburb of Adelaide. That plant closed on February 17, 2020. It was the last car plant in Australia and Holden has been replaced by GM specialty vehicles. Look, man, you get caught up in shit. Yeah. Look, have you ever... But he invented his own pyramid scheme and got lost in it. Hold on.
Starting point is 01:26:40 And his wife slept under it from what I hear. Have you ever been possessed by a French guy, a French baker? Of course I've been possessed by... If you listen to the podcast, it's made one out of every three episodes. So, you know, what happens if someone helps you get rid of the French guy? It's like when Aaron Rodgers started talking about vaccines. Oh, shit. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:27:04 No, that's different because he actually harmed Pete. He does harm. I'm not suggesting... I'm not saying... But I'm outside of that. It's just when you become important through, like, athletic ability or some skill that is nowhere near adjacent to science or medicine, and then you have your own theories and stuff like that, like, that's okay. But you can't then...
Starting point is 01:27:29 Like, you're not... That's not what you studied. You know what I mean? It's like when an actor, like, starts telling you how, you know, what to do and how to live and what brought them... Like, they're not supposed to be those people. You're not supposed to be elevating these kind of cultural icons into the realm of science because they have no expertise within it. So, he's like a guy who's been told these awesome and important for so long, and then that kind of just leads it to the fact that he's just, like, put a magnet and a crystal in a box,
Starting point is 01:28:00 and he's, like, deflate the tires and you got a supercar. And that's, like, what happened with Aaron Rodgers, and that's what happens with a bunch of the athletes, where you just are, like, you kind of are elevated because of your skill, your popular, and then you're all of a sudden, you know, saying things you feel like, you know... I think the crystals work. And that's how you get, like, a game show host to be your fucking president, basically. Whoa. The fuck is your problem?
Starting point is 01:28:29 I watched The Apprentice. It's a great show. It's not just a game show. Mark Burnett. Thank you again, guys. He's also a fucking real estate man. He's one of the biggest businessmen in the world. He is big. He had stakes. He did have stakes. He sold stakes.
Starting point is 01:28:43 Absolutely. Good ones, too. Do you believe in your presidents ever sold stakes? We don't have a president. Fuck off. Well, they didn't even need to say that. But so, yeah, he didn't do harm, but it is fucking crazy. No, it's totally completely crazy, but it's not something I would hold against him. I would be like, oh, he's got a quirk. I don't hold it against him.
Starting point is 01:29:02 Yeah, but it's like for so long to be like for sure that this changes the way that cars are going to be driven. You know, to some extent, that's a little... I mean, I feel like the world never really gave it a shot. I think they did. It's from what I just heard. It sounds like they was really giving a hell of a shot. What happened to the chiropractic doctor who became the mechanic? Nobody knows. He just drifts out of the story.
Starting point is 01:29:25 I mean, I'm sure at some point he was just like, hey, I'm going to... I'll be right back. I'm going to go to the store. And then it was just fucking hard. He's like the Homer Simpson's Bush gift where he was just like, one day they were all like, hey, this engine doesn't look right. And he was like... Has anyone seen the chiropractic doctor mechanic? Yeah. Not here.
Starting point is 01:29:48 Yeah. And everybody, you all know who he is because he's so... Yeah, he's an icon. And it's still revered? No. So you're shaking your head? No. No. No, it's the person next to you who's shaking your head.
Starting point is 01:30:04 Yeah. Well, there's definitely the... The abusing the ex-wife thing is not great. Right. Yeah. There's just a lot of flags on the play. There's a little bit of... There's obviously problems with that, but... You know, fuck, what a...
Starting point is 01:30:21 Is he buried with an energy atomizer? Because if he is, we can expect a part two. Oh my god, Peter! Yeah. He's crystallizing right now. Yeah, fuck yeah. Thank you guys so much for coming out. Appreciate it, truly.
Starting point is 01:30:52 Oh, fuck. Yeah. Thank you. Appreciate it.

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