The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 543 - William Wentworth - Live w/Wil Anderson and Justin Hamilton
Episode Date: July 26, 2022Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Australian great William Wentworth with guests Wil Anderson and Justin Hamilton. Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch  Squarespace Everlane Babbel...
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Will Anderson and Justin Hamilton we recorded this live at the Enmore Theater
June 24th 1861
Penguins were no I would you son of a bitch I would never do something I was
like don't bring me to the sequel my absolutely never do that to where the
penguins come back it's fine this one's good they learn how to dance wait I'll
get ahold of them William Charles Wentworth fucking hell is he behind us
what happened I William Charles Wentworth firstly I will not disparage
another William it's professional courtesy but WCW this is like I'm
strapped in motherfuckers was born on a ship off the coast of the penal colony
of Norfolk Island do you know where that is yeah yeah go ahead well it's next
to South Oak and it's yeah it's a little left folk yeah he was also given
life by a penal colony too if you think about it you better not be mean mugging
me all night with my dumb joke sir this is a long show it is it is an island
between two places that are now known as Australia and New Zealand yeah right
exactly in Norfolk Williams father was Darcy Wentworth he was a surgeon who at
one point tried to boost his income by becoming a highway robber in England
sure yeah oh I've got I've got a bit of a thing for this Darcy Wentworth doctor by
day robber by night come steal my heart Darcy he's about to commit the robbery
is like handgun bullets
cock it give me everything excuse me so he ends up charged with four armed
robberies and Darcy quickly signed up to be a surgeon in Sydney before he could
be sent there as a convict right so nothing's changed that's how he works he
gets in before the trial yeah right so he's on the second fleet as an assistant
surgeon and avoids the whole trial thing that and it worked so because he was a
surgeon they couldn't put well okay no he he before they put him on trial he's
signed up to go I mean that's okay by the way we're gonna send you to Australia
you can't I'm going to Australia but as a surgeon not a criminal yeah
interesting move went worth well played on the ship 17-year-old convict Catherine
Cowley was chosen to be his quote sea wife right you know what it's the way you
see wife it's likely the best wow so it is like a voyage mistress wow yeah but
it's a trade-off thing so you're either down in the belly of the ship with all
the other filthy people or you have or you get to go up and fuck the surgeon
and stay in a cabin right so I understand that that is terrible the
situation that those people were put in but if I was put in that same situation
I would definitely fuck the person oh a hundred percent are you kidding me I'm
fucking surgeons all day long and I'm talking about just now I'm not even
talking about on a ship yeah yeah I'd be like cock balls turn around for butt so
what I read about it is it's like not as bad as it sounds like a lot of women
were like can I please get in the cabin oh yeah it sounds great she becomes
pregnant see baby right see baby all because from all the fucking right and
that's what you mean what cesarean cesarean oh see baby see baby yeah I
didn't say cesarean right oh sorry well no we're not even there yet just slow
the fuck down we've been on the boat I'm just trying to get it out already they
go we've got us been minutes yeah so after arriving in Sydney she so the ship
stops in Sydney and then he's supposed to be stationed at Norfolk so that's why
they go to Norfolk you know where Sydney is yeah yeah yeah yep where is it
boat right away from Norfolk yep check it so she has William on the ship when
they went right when they get to Norfolk the baby on the ship she held it the
whole time she was like finally the ship was named the HMS surprise right when
that feels like a little fun game show for the people on the beach yeah wonder
what we're gonna get see baby so they live there for a while and they have
more kids so they're staying together they either like each other or they're
just like this works right on then a moving to city in 1796 and Darcy soon
became a wealthy landowner and a big muckety muck so he he becomes a justice
of the peace a magistrate a member of the governor's court etc just a bunch of
bullshit who cares Catherine died in 1800 oh wow and Darcy adopted William and
said he was his legitimate son so he's like this kid is a kid that I actually
made he's my boy not some well that was that was really big of him saying
that's what happened yeah yeah I didn't know you could adopt your own kid that's
a great move your kids like five like happy birthday I got a surprise I'm
adopting you gonna be your real daddy how about that I'm your dad now huh yeah
you know what I'm gonna get in touch with my dad and say you could have done
that fucking 49 years ago just them we brought him here tonight right if it's
anyone by Andrew Denton I'm fucking furious I do I just realized I had to
have screamed out the wrong date at the start oh yeah you said 1800 something
yeah it says 1861 but it must have been something else 1761 fuck it backstage
gin why my maybe the shit went around the wrong way I could look it up do you
want me to look it up no no I mean it's that attention to detail that really
yeah puts you at the top of the podcast I bet you don't even know where Norfolk
Island is do you I mean I understand the idea of you getting like a few
pronunciations wrong but it's literally the thing you scream out at the start of
the fucking show you're absolutely right I feel so fucking terrible and he's just
looking at porn what is this guy's deal far out this is not the time what he got
when he said dites was serious yeah yeah he's looking at c-sex it says how do
you do that with an ass okay so he was born on August 13 1790 which is
absolutely nothing like what right it's not even remotely close to the date that
I had this is was June 24th June 24th 1861 it's completely different I think
our main character would be dead by then right this story's all over the place
this is true is your own dollop I'm a fraud we don't know why don't we give you
1779 we'll give you a shout mulligan August 13 1790
ah well this is completely different now we need the end of the financial year
right yeah year of our lord Jesus Christ I had so many good 1860 bits so you
reckon garrus couldn't do this with that I mean he's just making shit up
okay so Catherine dies when he's 10 in 1800 so he's a doctor by William who then
says and the reason he says legitimate some because if you had a convict wife
you didn't tell anybody about it oh it was like your secret chain sure and then
and so afterwards he's like no she was actually my wife I just didn't tell
anybody now that she's dead I can reveal I fuck yeah we were married isn't that
great how this works so soon after William and his brothers were sent to
England to get a fancy education I'm adopting you thank you what does that
mean go to England yeah get out of here we spent too much time together I'm your
daddy so William was very smart but very lazy at school he wrote poetry drank
and gambled I mean he sounds kind of fun yeah yeah a few dirty limericks some
drinks he's working after graduating you couldn't get into either the East India
college company or the Royal Military Academy and he cannot get a job anywhere
which he blames on being a currency lad right what that is we talked about it
last night's podcast yes what is it it I would love I think that Hamo and Will
don't know yeah and my concern is that it's it's a talk about last night's
podcast there's been a lot of podcasts in the last week amigo look at that fly
and they create there's another one there's two of them yeah a currency lad is
a Australian born European did we just time travel 30 years and I'm at theater
sports it's just as bad so the people who are British think they're above
currency lads like you're born in Australia you're you're less than that
makes sense yeah still still the same yeah nothing's changed got it okay while
many are ashamed of being native of born Australians William is very proud of
it okay so he heads back to Australia because he could get a job or into a
college historian David Hunt quote William was a lump of a lad wow with
course features and an unkept shock of ginger hair wow his disheveled look was
complimented by a cast eye that stared disconcertingly over the shoulder of
who emmer of whoever he happened to be shouting at right it's like a sandpapered
Humpty Dumpty with a lazy eye yes yeah yeah William was it with some clown hair
yeah a little bit tough to clown hair William was an enthusiastic shouter with
a voice like a TRIACLE being poured down a foghorn he would you know what's the
what got poured down the foghorn TRIACLE it's it's like it's like a syrup made
out of like sugar this guy's just like you ever heard anyone pour syrup down a
foghorn he talked just like that I mean it doesn't it doesn't seem like the most
relatable reference yeah like yeah what's that dude's voice sound like well
yeah yeah I don't know like you ever see anyone put ketchup in a bullhorn yeah
yeah one of those voices yeah not like those voices that I've got jam in a
saxophone yeah yeah fuck those you know that's where jamming on the saxophone
came from it's from the old guys when they actually used to put ice cream in a
leaf blower yeah one of those sort of throaty you know I'm saying like mustard
in a rocket launcher he's one of those guys he's talking about like oysters in a
cannon yeah he's a little cannon oyster sure yeah it's like
Vegemite in a piccolo you know what it's like yeah anyway we're a voice yeah
it's like peanut butter in a no-body tree going to foghorn just like that yeah
yeah shouty but real syrupy yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah syrupy shout voice yeah
a bit echoey there you go yeah he's trying to tell us something yeah what's
going on boy all right settle down right Jesus Christ that's a nightmare
the quote is still going on I love this guy still describing okay what else he
would use this formidable instrument to harangue any person foolish enough to
disagree with him yeah so he's a Yeller and he's got a walleye and a tufta yeah
ginger hair and yeah yeah but he's got a anyway keep going soon after arriving
William won the colonies very first horse race on one of his father's horses
well Governor McCory appointed William acting provost Marshall he was the first
currency lad given a senior colony position now hang on did he get this
position because he won the horse race like oh he just he just wanted he won
the horse race and he got the job because it was dad right nice so it's a
good weekend yeah yeah he was given a 1750 acres of land in 1830 he William
Lawson and Gregory Blacksland led an expedition over the Blue Mountains
they were said to be here tonight yeah both of them yeah they were said to be
the first to cross it if you excluded the many Aboriginal people who actually
had two routes yeah yeah but yeah but they were the first people to stop for
scones they were the first people to ignore that history and declare it
hadn't happened yes which is really and take the hardest way over right yeah
while aboriginals are probably like there's a fucking road we gotta yeah is there
any syrup I'm so thirsty now the colony did not seem to care about the journey
the day they left the Sydney Gazette lead story was about a drunk drowning in
the harbor and when they returned the main story was about a cock fight yeah I
don't think any of us are gonna make a joke about that day the target was too
big yeah yeah and I can't technically say anything because we're in the middle
of an election cock fight and I work for the ABC yeah you'll get in trouble but
either way it was a huge deal because on the other side was amazing farmland
and William after doing this was given another thousand acres nice so he's
racking up the land by just being around and being a white wait is he still
writing poetry yeah he doesn't always enjoy writing poetry yeah the colonies
you gotta hear him read it too like putting honey in your speaker phone oh
really yeah right it's like putting that tell her in your clarinet honestly no
oh nothing like that oh okay sorry not sure what you're talking about it so
weird so sorry that's all sounds of it all I don't even know what that would
it sound like the other ones obviously we all right resonates oh yeah yeah yeah
yeah the oysters in the canner yeah we'll circle back to that one after the
show because we picked it up a tree no no the colonies military commander was
Lieutenant Governor George mole oh yeah like that way he's looking around is
anyone anyone any objections it's moley in 1815 a poem was published accusing him
of backstabbing Macquarie David Hunt quote of being fat money grubbing anti
emancipist bigot and drunken lech who couldn't tell a proper joke so it's a
lot is this like the early version of like an M&M style B rabbit this truck yeah
someone's written a poem calling out boom boom boom
you hear one shot one opportunity the colony offered a hundred-pound reward
for the name of the poet suddenly William decided to go to London
interesting interesting move there he sponged off friends and relatives in
London and went to law school he vacationed a lot saying it was for health
reasons well yeah no shit everybody that's everybody's reason you'd be he'd
be like I have to go spend six weeks in Rome because I who I'm gassed but and
then he and then he realized people let him stay in their apartments and stuff
okay so people were paying his way to do that he eventually became a barrister now
a barista what do you how do you guys which way do you guys ruin it
yeah no it's barista yeah yeah are you guys talking about the people who make
coffee yeah no no no you're talking about the the court people yeah the court
people yeah no but barista yeah people he eventually became a lawyer but what
type of learn right coffee sheep mmm John MacArthur Jr. let him stay in his
apartment in Paris and then he became close with the MacArthur family William
told his dad he wanted to marry MacArthur's daughter and set up an
Australian dynasty quote for the future respectability and a grandeur of our
family that's why you do it he wants to set up a future dynasty well if his
family marries in the MacArthur family then giant right yeah serious so it's
real love it's real love yeah but John MacArthur was not into ex convicts and
told William his daughter wasn't going to marry a convicts bastard well well
well now he didn't know exactly what that meant but from this day going forward
William would have a burning hatred for all things MacArthur okay and he didn't
know what it meant I don't like the tone of your voice
nothing like syrup in a foghorn well he didn't have the whole story about his
dad right but well do you not remember that beat where he got a dog yeah yeah
in 1382 you know that's is that what my dad adopted me makes sense so William was
the whole time he's gone up he thinks his dad's like a fancy rich guy and then
he learns otherwise when an MP tabled a pamphlet calling Darcy a convicted high
women this is the first time he learns about his dad and William says he wants
a duel hmm nice but then he but then he backs off when he finds when he finds out
that he actually was arrested for being a highway high women but then the MP
apologizes and says he's sorry he didn't mean to call him convicted it's just a
highway just a high yeah so he publishes a book in 1918 it's the first one by an
Australian born writer it's an argument for New South Wales to have a free
government jury trials and a free press so MacArthur is fucking pissed of course
MacArthur is like what is this shit he said that a representative government
quote would seal the destruction of every respectable person here he was right
yeah but to be fair to him that's what Wentworth thought before he realized that
he wasn't one of them right like while the system was gonna like suit him he was
fine to marry into that other family yeah only when he rediscovered that he
wasn't gonna benefit from the system that he was like boom I'm not saying
there's any lessons in that for us in modern times yeah after he gets rejected
by that family suddenly takes the opposite political viewpoint interesting so
the Peterloo massacre happened which you know obviously a brief it's gonna be a
long show so a bunch of English people wanted whatever more rights and what
just slaughtered him so that happens right after the book comes out so no one
at that point in England wants any reform so then William asks his dad for
money to go to France for six weeks and his dad gives it to him and then he
comes back and he's like I still don't have enough money to like look like a
gentleman it's all to look like a gentleman yeah he wanted to have the
appearance of a gentleman right so a judge now somehow figured out who was
the poem's author and he outs William as the author so William challenges him to
a duel another do another do I'm sorry before we get to the other duel do you
have any information about like was the judge like we had this been his pet
cause like it had been investigating this poem this whole time like do you
know because I want to know like he's like I've cracked it finally it's like a
Dan Brown situation yeah right and I think it's because of the book and he
has the opposite political opinion right so this guy's stirring up shit and it's
also at a time when that's happening all over the world so they're like this is
not but yeah so William challenges a guy to a duel but he doesn't just do that he
goes fucking completely ape shit and tries to attack the guy it has to be
restrained by cops I do it without you knowing surprised you but duels also
aren't legal so he couldn't do it anyway so then he writes another book and he
attacks this guy in his book calling him a public scavenger and saying his
report on Australia was quote nauseous trash so the other guy had written a
report on Australia with the opposite view and he's saying your shit how long
are these arguments taken because it takes a long time to write a fucking book
you know I mean like they could just have it out yeah no it you would you would
make your argument and then wait three months for a counter argument yeah right
now we're in 1861 oh right yeah and I would love that instead of Twitter yeah
right yeah it'd be way better I think you'd still get in a couple of jewels it's
fair so what was happening was all of William's opinions are making the ex
convicts in Australia love him so every time these guys attack him he comes back
and everyone in Australia is like this guy's fucking awesome this dog fucking
gets us and then in 1823 in a big win for William Parliament establishes the
New South Wales Supreme Court and permitted jury trials before that was
military trials which are in his fun right so British bear that means he
could now practice law in in New South Wales so he heads back he comes on a
ship with another barrister named Robert Wardell and upon upon arriving they
sue the captain of the ship whoa that's something we're here we're done with you
we'll see you in court you bastard you got us here alive they said they had to
eat salted meat their cabins had ankle deep water and worst of all the captain
had sailed before their 600 bottles of beer had cleared customs right they have
every right to assume yeah especially Australia I mean honestly yeah no that's
it they were on sober boat yeah yeah that's a crime yeah well the judge agreed
and they got their passage fee back right absolutely yeah sorry you said beer did
I see the contents of cigarettes as well that I had so when William got here he
went fucking booze crazy in New South Wales to be fair he'd been beer starved
yeah that's how you do it it's like a camel they drink water before they go on
their journeys and they stored in their humps do you know nothing come on buddy
but I'm saying so you think that he would have stored beer in his hump he had
just come back from a journey and he needed to rehydrate with beer to put it
in his humps buddy I'm not going to slow the story down everybody knows this he's
humps he's humps yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah everyone knows that his lovely Ailey
humps yeah so he is arrested three times for being drunk now a new so he gets a
promotion yeah that's a promotion they give him another thousand acres of land
now in New South Wales there's two groups the emancipus and the exclusives
the exclusives want to exclude former convicts from civil rights I'm on their
side of course John MacArthur is an exclusive on the other side emancipus
like William pro rights for convicts right they want more right what America
has right I'm right to vote the right things like that right to fuck off right
to get shot in the face of your 14 oh it's true my kid has two years to live
if that happens it's gonna be weird I like how that's your first night like
this podcast won't age well if my son gets that happened about to adopt him
too this is super oh my god but it would be so the most downloaded podcast in
history Dave stop talking only fuck happening what if this is one of the
one that Heather listens to every six months she's like so I thought your show
was funny but then I like Will and Justin maybe this will be good oh yeah
what I didn't say she was gonna die too now you put it out there asshole I'm
just gonna link her to this one Heather this one's worth it get to when he gets
the date right start from there and then it's one more window and I love it I'm
saying out of this for when they play this in court just Dave sitting in a
box Johnny depping it like yeah will vaping coming in you'd want to be the
lawyer who gets to ask him what date it was on that mr. Anthony that would make
you 211 years old I was having a lot of can gin that night sir
MacArthur called emancipus quote renegade Jews Jesus renegade you I mean it
sounds fun I don't know what's like I'm in if someone was like I we're gonna go
to the after party the renegade Jews are there I feel like shopkeepers of
merit renegade Jews shopkeepers Americans and a man who had married a
convict woman very specific at the end yeah a man who had married a renegade
choose to like that guy yeah and a man who'd married a convict woman Tamborine
Sal who made a living singing and dancing in the country fairs what he was
talking about Lawson he was specifically he was like that guy made it married a
tambourine lady how many times I've read about Australian history and come up
against the tambourine Sal comment and been like what in the fuck is it was
like a thing people would say it's fucking tambourine Sal and everybody
like but hang on but what does tambourine Sal actually mean did you work it out
yeah it's I believe it's based on a woman named Sally but she performed
around it's one man living yeah she made a living singing and doing fairs yeah
what did her voice sound like like an angel whispering through leather
like an octopus being blown out of a cannon it's a little subtle in another
win Governor Brisbane approved freedom of the press so William and his buddy
Wardell published the Australian on the 14th of October 1824 it's Australia's
first privately owned newspaper nice that's where it all went downhill good start yeah yeah it's my favorite paper the
paper pushed a mancipist and native-born causes it also promoted William as the
savior of the poor and he took out a bunch of high-profile of cases representing
the poor versus the powerful poor people love this guy right in May 1825 he
represented a man suing a guy named John Payne for breach of promise to marry his
daughter hmm so okay is that legally binding I'm gonna marry your daughter
I'll see you in court if you don't basically yes it was legally binding if
you said you were gonna marry someone and didn't then they could take you to
court you better do a buddy or you've been a world of pain get drinking you
know I'm a married daughter one day sir I like you renegade Jews I'm a married
daughter that's pretty good I love how none of you guys picked up with the fact
that he he called people renegade Jews and Americans like those were his two
yeah fucking cut well be like being like fuck Americans is pretty you know
we've all thought that it's the renegade Jews I've got my eye on so his
daughter's name is Sarah and Sarah's employer testifies in court that she
quote heard the defendant make love to the young lady what what what did that
sound like like an orangutan through a mincemeat
oh man well you know that sound man I told you never mention that again sorry
it's like the high like maneuver under a weighted blanket yeah yeah yeah yeah I do
that a lot yeah like beating a rug under water yeah right yep yeah it's like
fingering a fish without a license yeah yeah yeah it's like struggling to get
out of scuba gear while calling out a lady name like orgasming through a conch
shell testifying that you heard him fucking I heard him fuck you
honor all right interesting that's great that's good testimony could I go
further with this question ma'am yes what is it can you mimic the sound I mean
it sounded like it went on for a while touch your nipples it happened real quick
rub your nipples huh go ahead and I mean rub down below a little bit permission
to leave the witness box hold on I'm almost done I'm confused as to who the
lawyer is can the jurors ask questions like this permission to treat my dick is
hostile permission denied how does it work
this denographer was like groaning and groaning a lot of parentheticals in this
one so after paying had sex with Sarah people testified that he had sex with
two other women and William all these people are testifying yeah that he's
like fucking a lot of I want y'all to come in and watch make sure this happened
if that's cool with everyone they're looking for some cucks is it the same
sex or the different sex that they all testify they've covered off all of it
it's different yeah he had sex with three people at all of the times you know
I'm all found out about it yeah you know yeah you know he wants to be caught
yeah yeah yeah I mean like you can hide the second or third one yeah yeah what
did it sound like what sounded like there was like a syrup in a foghorn that was
him for sure yeah we that was him when he finishes to I hear it's kind of like
syrup in a foghorn yeah I say why to ruin a fun bit man
I think we could still get some mileage out of it will come on don't ditch it
kill that early too so William wins the case but he also during the trial got
Sarah pregnant right well that's that's unfortunate it's not the smartest
defense yeah well let me go over your testimony one more time yeah we have to
end this trial before September but he doesn't want to marry her so sure who
got that impression he moves are gonna adopt the shit out of that kid right so
he moves around to the estate and she has the kid so now William at the same
time is working his way into respectable society he helped found the Sydney
turf club sure he was on the Bank of New South Wales board and pushed for low
interest rates to help the people which led to the banks holdings falling from
a hundred and twenty three thousand pounds to four thousand pounds by the
way I think that we can't we just have to go back to the one person who would
interest rates being low which is a real indicator of the level of the
homeownership it's him that's the person a lot of people like what's your
address so the the government had to bail out the bank but the low interest
rate rates made the poor people love William even more so now he's the top
defense attorney in New South Wales in 1827 he successfully got a soldier
acquitted of murder by arguing he could not be guilty of killing an aboriginal
man named Jackie Jackie because crimes committed by or against aboriginals
were not subject to British law so it's well well well it's real hard to get
behind this guy like yeah it's been a couple of times where I've tried to jump
on board yeah well as soon as I knew he wrote poetry I was out yeah I've learned
that a number of times I'll be like this guy's awesome he was like I killed his
family all right have some more land after he set that precedent that same
year another aboriginal guy named Jackie Jackie was sentenced to death for
killing a white guy oh my god so it works one way but not the other Jesus
Christ that's great you can imagine yeah no Williams father died quiet
Williams father died in 1827 and he started I'm unadopting you you weren't
really my boy so William starts drinking heavily and the Gazette called him quote
either a little cracked in the upper story or downright mad a little crack in
the upper story is the good option things are also not going well with Sarah
she refused to register him as the father of their second child well how's he
gonna adopt him yeah it might have been because he had another kid with the wife
of a friend who had run off and left her who he also put on a house on the
estate video that's the problem with that much land yeah he's like got eight
families he's like don't worry it's fine I'm gonna go on a trip for a while you
won't see me just goes a thousand acres and he's like Sally hello what are the
kids names again that's right we don't have any
oh I'm just kidding let's get someone in here so we can fornicate a witness yeah
now a woman around this time a woman named Jane knew had a conviction
overturned on a technicality and Governor Darling who was an exclusive and
acuity and acuity yeah was furious and he revoked her assignment sending her
back to the female factory so her husband hires William to get her out yeah
so William starts fucking her yeah Christ wow he should actually go back to
writing fucking poetry but she ended up getting out not because of William but
because a Supreme Court judge fell in love with her what is going on like
what there's not a lot of women I mean but on that level though it's like
Alaska even then without the bears there's no bears to fuck so I'm not gonna
pretend you're a salmon yeah they eat salmon asshole right no
that's why they swim upstream trying to get a walk so it'd be great to see in a
nature documentary here he is grabbing the salmon oh dear I don't know if we
should be filming this I'm hyper baiting it's a great job there's a guy over
there just like refusing to stick his dick in the salmon illicit past highs
things they're like who's that John West these high standards
oh the sound when you put your dick in this all right Dave we keep reading baby so
the Supreme Court judge forges papers to get her out of prison good judge
hoping she'll elope with him but instead she moves on to Williams estate yeah so
she gets out and then the judge is like there's a caveat and she's like no not
really he's like oh okay yeah damn it but she only stays on Williams estate for
three weeks and then she bails on all three dudes right her husband William and
the other guy and just goes to Australia alone just like fucking nice smart so
when it comes out Sarah it comes out now because of all this is getting
attention and it comes out Sarah had lived briefly with William and he said
he didn't know sorry the woman sorry Jane he said he didn't know she was there
because she he was sick in bed the whole time that's weird because normally
when he's sick he goes on holidays yeah yeah so now Sarah's pissed because this
is all getting out so William decides to back out of public life and fixes a
relationship with Sarah and he and he marries her finally so with all there's
a bunch of anti-government fever going on obviously and Bush rangers are being
seen as men who are fighting poverty in the convict system they're like fighting
back against the powers that be okay one was John bold Jack Donahue who stole
from the rich and he was killed by a posse and then a folk song was written
about him but Darling made it illegal to sing the song in pubs which made it more
popular right right yeah it's like explicit lyrics so singers would just
change the name from John Donahue to John Dowling and then Darling got mad and
passed the Bush ranger act which increased punishments against Bush rangers
and the law also required people to show ID to cops but if you're native-born you
didn't have ID so if they ask you for ID and you're a native-born Australian you'd
get arrested and then they'd have to take you to the place you were born hoping
someone recognized you right what wow wait hold up excuse me sir do you know
this man yep okay cool I don't live here oh well neither do I what a dumb
oh yes I saw him come out of his mother right over there under the rock it's
that fucking craziest thing that's a nightmare yeah it's a logistic night
like if you're like a cop you're like please say please say please say you
have ID I don't fuck we're going to Darwin we got a swing by my house my
wife is gonna be furious he doesn't have ID on him so I'll see like it'll be like
five months again I thought he had ID it's a really bad law
probably just be able to sing the song to be there it's fine all right goodbye
bye daddy goodbye it's been so great to adopt you all right this guy and I are
gonna go hang out for five months to see if anyone knows him in his home this
like even as I'm saying what the fuck is with this law yeah well we just have
IDs I because he's born here so he doesn't have it look it's really you're
little and I'm old and don't get it so it's just crazy but we're gonna like
midnight run it together for a little while I guess and that's an old reference
yeah like I said I'm older than you yeah so I have access to these that was way
before I was born that movie yeah I recognize look I don't even have time
I'm gonna go I have to go with this guy on a road trip montage movie does that
help yeah Tanira was like a young man this is like so weird that I'm just
gonna go bye bye yeah I mean I guess it is a weird concept that two men would
travel a lot she sits together to say if anyone recognizes them wow just wow as we
were having that fun well it was just like
wow spraying a hose through a sheet on a washing that's it putting a ping-pong
ball in an open alligator mouth
sometimes it sounds like shoving a grenade in an elephant's ass
why are you so horribly violent it's actually great and even so God where
were we 1861 people and IDs people and IDs that's right so more and more people
becoming bush rangers and William almost get gets killed one time just outside
of his home just one time yeah but the gun misfire but Robert Wardell is killed
when he tries to arrest three bush rangers who are committing a crime to
not to be a bad idea right so two soldiers at this point two soldiers
purposefully steal clothes so they will get kicked out of the military and
Governor Darling has them strip naked and 14 pound collars are put on their
necks which keep them from straightening their bodies and then they're left out
for days and one dies Jesus and then the paper started attacking Darling so he
goes after the press and editors have to register their that their editors and
the papers are being taxed all papers are now supposed to be sent to the
Colonial Secretary's office to be vetted but then William finds out that no one's
actually collecting that they're just sending the papers there and no one
reads them they just sit there in a pile like a newspaper and so he puts that
information out there and the Colonial Secretary's embarrassed and calls William
quote an infamous black guard worthy of his birth being the son of an Irish
highwayman by a convict whore Jesus really came fucking hard that's like that's
the Colonial Secretary I mean they do come hard
then I'll mess around so at this point Darling tries to banish repeat libelous
and that was it the British government fires them they're like we're fucking
done with your shit like this is crazy how the British government comes out
seeing like the reasonable one is really fucking crazy so Darling leaves and when
Darling leaves William has a huge fucking party he has an ox and these six
sheep are roasted there's beer for all 4,000 people come to a party Wow historian
David Hunt quote Wentworth shouting and laughing with a bottle in one hand and a
bottle in the other was carried above the heads of the adoring throng people
are fucking darling is like gone and they're just like this is the best thing
ever right he's got a bottle in each hand yeah so William is now one of the
largest landholders in Australia he's king of the squatters squatters they're
supposed to point they're supposed to pay rent on like an honor system right so
you're supposed to just pay a rent but no one great so they so they don't yeah
weird the landlord's like do you have it no enjoy it yeah by the way you guys
all enjoy this because at one stage in Australia we thought we could take on
the world of Monopoly with our own homegrown game called squatter yeah and
it was like Monopoly set in the Australian out back but instead like
you someone to land on your property like you owe me 500 they back okay
that's this game goes out for a long time didn't it just keep going around all
right so so William had long thought taxes but now he agrees to pay rented a
reduced rate and then all the guys that he was working with are fucking mad at
him so the government also didn't want to expand as it would make it harder to
control convict workers you don't want more big squatters just want to keep
expanding and having convicts sent to do work but that's what we call it slavery
in America yeah but we never had it in Australia
I said that one sort of podcast got a lot of letters a lot of time doing a
lot of learning letters you'll knew more about it than the Prime Minister so
so squatters want to keep expanding the government's like we don't you know we
don't want to keep expanding because of the convicts so Williams fought a long
time to exclude solicitors from the court so barristers could do all the
colony court work we in America don't have it's coffee
solicitors are not they don't argue in court is that the difference yeah sure
surprisingly it is even a surprise to me I've never been in court yeah you didn't
go to court for the yeah oh yeah those people never go to court yeah sorry I'm
white and rich yeah it makes a huge difference all right so whatever there's
a difference so anyway what happened is finally they exclude solicitors in 1834
so this means William and his it is other they're gonna get tons of fucking
work there's nine of them so they have a giant party they put a tub of wine in
Wardell's chair since he's dead yeah please do that when I go I'm gonna
start getting a chair just for that yeah this is my chair remember fill it with a
tub of wine they get completely shit-faced and toast good fees and
plenty of them oh wow no briefs without the cash so what free ballin yeah free
ballin so William now he's fucking loaded at this point so now he thinks the
rich should decide how government oh boy money is spent oh yeah here we go okay
so he's really yeah it's weird feels like yeah maybe not political opinions
constantly aligned with these circumstances interesting only those with
property and sheep should vote and sheep yeah wow this country's great yeah
really is yeah this is property and I have property sheep no sorry buddy still
the same still the same you have ID or do we need to go to your hometown but if
you just have like one sheep and around with it on like a leash do you get to
vote yeah I think their sheep should get to vote what if the sheep is your
boyfriend or I mean most of them most of them aren't boys like I mean you'd know
if it was a boy they're quite distinct from the other ones oh I don't I'm not a
farm boy I grew up in I don't know like if you want to fuck a male sheep it's
like a ram which I guess makes sense yeah yeah yeah but I'm fucking it oh okay
yeah he said yeah if you want to fuck it yeah I mean I'm fucking it yeah no yeah
you know I'm sorry do you have another arrangement and yeah well then it's a
ram so you want to you want to know my I'm not here to king shame you whatever
you want to do I mean you want to do it but that's a dangerous position to drop
your pants in front of a ram and be like yeah just to be clear this is
sexual the rents like I'm gonna I have one gear right now yeah it is not bang
time that way dive gets turned on by wool yeah so the poor he thought should
have no say quote ignorance and poverty went together Jesus man wow it really is
just how it works I mean it never never never changes never fucking second
you're like I went for the poor you're in government like this is pretty good
actually fuck that yeah you people need to elect someone who represents your
values we did so his low opinion of the poor carries over into his home in 1835
his butler led a mutiny wow wow a land mutiny grab the salad forks yeah I mean
a great day to be a newspaper headline rather to with the butler did it yeah they
stole Williams schooner and tried to sail to New Zealand what that's a weird
mutiny like just kill him yeah oh thank you when caught the butler said quote
tell mr. Wentworth that if I had not gotten away I would have settled him in
another way yeah do that way was found at the house poison him and then get on
the schooner yes yeah only go in that order he obviously read it back to front
right yeah yeah we got about the poison damn it now you got a poison that we
cool let's go back yeah yeah boat around I don't know what to say I stole it
boat around mm-hmm it's called the U-boat not much but I'll take it yeah yeah some scraps they didn't get a hiss well that'd be fair after this so
William now is like okay I'm done with politics and he leaves my butler tried to
kill me I'm out this is like these poor people really don't get it yeah what's
their deal he took my schooner so he leads others to lead the reform movement
so by now he's gotten pretty much everything you wanted he's got press
freedom the military juries are gone he's got fucking tons of money but he's
still upset about stuff but just stuff that would help him personally right he
often complained about the high pay of government servants especially when the
job did nothing for him he kept getting upset and complaining that the
colonial botanist was paid too much because that because he's like everyone's
just like what the fuck are you doing the fucking botanist in 1835 William
co-founded botanist sorry I get $10 a year in 1835 William co-founded the
Australian Patriotic Association to lobby England for representative
government and he made sure it had a five dollar five pound membership fee to
keep out the poor the association wanted to deny the poor blacks and women a
vote Jesus Christ like that was hard yeah I mean honestly yeah basically our
government in 1837 the British House of Commons looked into transportation and
some called it a kind of slavery and the result of this was Van
Demon's land sending convicts to public works instead of farms so William loses
his fucking shit because he just completely relies on free labor and he
had once written that the convict system was a barrier to free government but
now as a rich guy he's like it's fucking it's the shit now that I'm rich I
realize how great it is the grass is always greener and it's getting a little
everybody get someone over there it's crap so all this government shit he's
not enjoying taxing land making him to pay to squat taking away his cheap
labor so he's like I got to find a new place to exploit yeah and there was New
Zealand oh Jesus Christ did he go through Norfolk Island or it's on the way oh
yeah I've heard that right straight shot oh is it a straight shot no north or
south north folk come on buddy you know the way we go which way are you coming
from so so people had started buying huge plots of land for nothing from the
Maori and William bought a hundred thousand acres in 1838 in 1839 it's a
lot to buy but when you hear the price was nothing it seems like unders yeah
he wasn't greedy and now missionaries in New Zealand are getting worried about
all the land grabbers buying land because they're buying it with
guns and the Maori are using them to kill each other Maori Maori okay it's okay
now that I mean sometimes we're being petty this is a good one to get right
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah what just happened it's all calm down Dave's
gonna challenge a lot of duels yeah I don't know what he was he just yell the
same thing other people yell no was he being more of a counter less of a
kind no no less he was being like correct yeah he was being correct yeah was
he correcting them or was it correcting well they were closer than you were but
he was right on so he's right over there yeah yeah hey so they were wrong so if I
say it like they did I'll be wrong and he'll yell at me yeah yeah so anyway
they're killing each other which is apparently the least thing over this
whole story so the missionaries are begging the British to do something so
Captain William Hobson was set to negotiate a treaty with the M so he's
trying to get them to cede sovereignty to Queen Victoria so that way they would
have more control over the landgrabbers and and then purchasing land from the
native people would not be guaranteed so it's like a end-around sort of weird it's
kind of hard to it's like who's whose side am I on right now what if nobody
ticks their land but that's not an option right yeah of course so yeah
do you have ID they're like oh my god oh my god get the schooner yeah we were
born here we don't need you don't understand the law of your land white
people so William hears on New Year's Eve that his 100,000 acres might be gone
oh my god what will I live on all that other land so former chiefs worried
about a large gun for land sale that they hear about they come to Sydney
trying to get the Queen's protection and William acts as their attorney I've got
this yeah you need someone like me in your life so yeah he acts as their
attorney in negotiations with the governor and I think our attorney's
horrible afterwards he has them sign a deed which gave him and the captain who
brought them over pretty much the entire South Island of New Zealand so they're
like finally we're gonna fight the system he's like you don't have any land
anymore damn judge anyway I guess I get all of that the system just fucks you
and fucks you speaking of that I made one of your ladies pregnant while I have
a witness and he gave them 200 pounds oh my god don't eat I mean unless the end
of this sentences of coca of diamonds an annual pensions between 20 pounds and
10 pounds and for that he got 20 million acres oh my fucking god I know what a
fucking deal yeah yeah I mean how many fake wives and babies can you buy by
the way I need this I have a million yeah excuse me a little breathing room
finally 20 million million million he's also one of the richest fucking guys in
Australia oh god they never like Jeff Bezos to be like chill chill chill chill
chill yeah what's your legs man you're coming off a little greedy you okay
Jesus Christ what are you gonna buy Twitter calm down what are you nuts by the way though he
absolutely would have been great on Twitter like his tweets would arrive so
he tells them not to tell the governor about the deal until they had signed away
their sovereignty to the Queen so he's trying to find a loophole whereas the
contract that he did with them looks like it's not signed until after the
Queen's sovereignty deal goes through so then he does have a guarantee to it
right it doesn't sound shady no not at all but the governor finds out and he's
fucking pissed a treaty is signed with hundreds of Maori's it says spam that's
not the right word it was not in our inbox but just hundreds of these of the
tribes signed this treaty and Queen Victoria has sovereignty over New
Zealand and guaranteed the chiefs exclusive and understated possession of
their land okay and they could only sell land of Britain that's great yes we
think it was so unfair we finally seen the light no no no but you could sell it
to us if you like that would be lovely actually if you know I'm saying that
lovely smashing we own 20 million did you feel better so that a bill was
introduced to erase previous land buys that were unfair to the Maori well not
all of them and William was pointed out as example number one of the most
horrific fuck he tries to argue that they should be able to do what they want
with their land and sell it to whoever they want they should be legally allowed
to be ripped off by a white man that's what he's like well I should be able to
rip them off come on and then it turns out the governor found out that he'd
gotten them drunk before signing the contract well oh come on and it's a
contract in English so I don't even know what the fuck it said well then why
would he was like just to be safe I'm gonna get him hammered yeah covering
every yeah fucking base here
Gibbs quote he will never get one acre one foot one shilling for the land which
he bought he is not yet safe from prosecution for conspiracy he purchased
a whole island at the rate of 400 acres for a penny oh my god he was like they
screwed me come on that is fucking crazy when I can't get over 20 million
acres yeah so the bill is passed he's does not have that land anymore okay and
sir by the way that's the interest rate guy yeah it's bullshit he's probably
related to him we've got one homeowner one developer that's it and then the
governor remove William from the list of suitable legislative council members so
William wants fucking revenge on governor Gibbs Gibbs is told by the
British to give Aboriginal people the same legal rights as other citizens of
the Empire when's that gonna happen he said cool your jets cops cops won't like
that there were and say cool your jet like what's a jet it gets very hot I
would imagine so there's obviously major conflicts over land and food and one
led to the massacre of 28 Aboriginal people after a cow was speared the
governor had the stockman arrested a bunch were acquitted but by some miracle
seven of these Europeans were found guilty and hanged wow and yeah that's the
last time and they're the only seven who've ever paid for the crime William was
very upset because this was a precedent yeah hurt his ability to clear land yeah
yeah he called the hangings judicial murder now he sounds like an American
yeah yeah in 1841 a depression hit and sheep dropped to one 15th of their
former worth we're just so down we don't even want to grow anymore just feel
like I've gone from a white shape to a black shape William is obviously obviously
a little worried about this and so William and the other sheep owners turn
their flocks into basically soap and candles oh good the sheep are like wait
what I'm still I'm I hear you I'm still a sheep though like I'm still the same
well that was two weeks ago what do you mean here's the good news okay we're done
cheering you just become ridiculous okay great cuz I yeah I need a little bit
of work down then but I'm well we got you a side gig okay yeah yeah cool what
uh what am I doing we're going just right because right now it always seemed
barbaric tape taking all the you know what I mean it just seemed like I got I
like the part where I get to walk around and eat though for a few months and then
I come in for a haircut well no we're gonna make you candles I'm sorry you're
gonna turn you all into candles turn me into a candle yeah that sounds your
side gig like all of you and I don't even think it's gonna be easy to be quite
honest I'm not sure how this even will work but we're gonna try it with all of
you is this are you gonna shave me for that yeah actually nothing pointed out
yeah I guess we will have to share you for that so there's no good news we're
gonna have to share you and then you'll all be candles how many candles do people
need hopefully a fuck ton because this is things are bad bad I'm not gonna be
that guy I'm not gonna be that guy I'm not gonna be that guy but um so the
governor governor get slashes government spending by two-thirds William
survives but he suffers a lot he had been here's the tragic thing of all this
he had been planning to convert his house into a mansion but now he can man
this guy doesn't get anything right yeah I wanted to move my 19 families under
one big roof now I guess I'll have to keep riding but after the whole New
Zealand situation William is in some pretty bad shape politically and he
hadn't kept convict assignment going which upset his squatter base Britain
stopped transportation to New South Wales in 1840 so sweet cheap labor is
wrapping up and William said he wanted to spend more time with his family and
quit public life which family how many a lot of options it's gonna be like the
bachelor but with families yeah you're all gonna compete he garden he entered
floral and horticulture shows and won a contest with a huge peach nothing you
from ism
well finally I can get on board this what happens to rich people though like
you still the shit they're like I grow a giant peach and everyone's like I love
you yeah well yeah there's no like I mean you know if you're that rich there's
no account I mean you are saying like yeah my life took a dark turn now I can
just grow steroid peaches I've lost so much I'm the victim anyway look at the
size of this fucking peach imagine the pit inside of this thing I mean I just
even loved the idea that it was a competition but who's got the biggest
the Australian quote his day is gone by his opinion is worth nothing then in
1842 Britain approved a new South Wales legislative council you had to be a man
who owned land worth 200 pounds or rent for 20 pounds a year okay and have
peaches and have peaches a big guy yeah about this this is about 30% of dudes in
the colony so Williams like oh that's me and he runs his opponent is named William
hustler not great no no I mean that really gives you a leg up I'm gonna
start a magazine for the whole fucking colony you see everything every goddamn
part my lips wet I feel really good for everyone who's listening to this
podcast who is not getting that visual yeah absolutely absolutely and William
hustler went after William for being a coolly immigrant supporter William who
was actually very racist okay you're gonna actually have to differentiate
between the Williams you're telling a story where they're both called William
yeah yeah yeah well I'm talking about our William yeah we'll just please hustler
yeah okay that's fair I'm calling hustler hustler William okay cool thank
you because I because I am also William yeah when you're well this is a lot for
me to be taking finally a shitty William enjoy this well we find an asshole
yeah that's a fantastic so so William is actually a racist who previously said
Indian immigration was bad because it would lead to the racist mixing so
hustler's angle is like this guy's not a racist that he's like I'm super racist
asshole yeah how dare you I'm the worst well he that's who we used to be right
but now without convicts as freed labor now he's suddenly super pro Indian
immigration so worries he's been on the record so yeah I mean everything has
just been based on financial status yeah what where he's at right there right
right cool hustler's slogan was quote vote for hustler and no coollies just
couldn't throw that up on the right on election day William was ahead so a mob
of his opponent supporters which the Sydney Morning Herald called quote
infuriated Irishman attacked and destroyed a Wentworth campaign tent
accessories now the guy who was running Williams campaign tent was a whaling
ship captain so he had his guys attack the Irish with harpoons wow that is the
original that's not a knife
the violence then spread to other tents and whatnot and voting voting was
suspended and riots went on all day so they I mean it's just a few harpoons
and you're canceling a vote yeah one person was killed that's it but boy was
he killed you've never seen someone killed like this is the this guy got
fucking killed he looked like a voodoo dolly was like the next day so he made
her poems deep you're gonna live mate I highly doubt it honestly not feeling
great
I'm the last bloody harpoon.
So, so nice and feeling bloody pink cushion.
Ten cutty and ten cutty, her poons fucking hurt.
If I don't make it.
Oh, Christ, that's a big peach.
So voting resumed the next day.
We took shots of harpoons of some of the other guys.
It's so funny when this guy gets it though.
He's losing his mind.
I love they just go back to voting the next day like a horrible harpoon event.
Well, yeah, someone was like, did we figure out a way to figure it?
You know, some guy put up a sign that was like, no harpoons.
It should be good.
I think this will probably fix it.
No harpoons within 100 yards of the polling station.
But everywhere else, they're fine because you don't want to just give it to all harpoons.
Freedom.
You're not taking away my harpoon.
I should be allowed to go in a restaurant with my harpoon strapped to my chest
like a freedom-loving American.
You can have my harpoon when you get it out of my cold wet head.
The only way to stop school harpoonings is to give the teachers harpoons.
Harpoons.
Love of God.
You'll be ridiculous.
It's the way, it's how we are raised.
When I was seven, I learned how to harpoon my first whale.
God, America's fucking crazy.
So, he wins.
William wins the election.
Just because it's like running against the guy who's worse.
Yeah, basically.
Afterward, he traveled out to Cumberland where James MacArthur was running
and campaigned against him.
So he's still fucking mad at the MacArthur's.
Yeah.
So he's just like stump-speaching just for...
Just for vengeance.
Right, cool.
And his support is key.
He's recently elected, right?
Yeah, right.
He doesn't need to.
Yeah, but also everyone's voted for him to like help run the join.
And he's like, you know what I'm going to do?
Go and campaign against someone else, somewhere else.
Don't you have work to do?
No.
Okay.
Job number one.
Fuck MacArthur.
What's their harpoon policy?
Well, his old friend Lawson was running against MacArthur.
So he campaigns for Lawson and MacArthur loses.
And his support was key, they say.
You're applauding, but is anybody good?
No.
When the Legislative Council met, everyone wore frock coats and top hats,
except William, who was in Squatter's Quotaroys,
which the Australian called, quote,
a contemptible affectation.
He's still trying to act like a man of the people with all of his fucking bullshit.
Right.
William was an opposition leader against Gipp's government,
and he introduced bills to help Squatters during the Depression,
capping interest rates and allowing Squatters to mortgage their sheep.
What?
You know what?
You never heard of a sheep, please?
Yeah.
What the fuck?
He argued that England had once allowed mortgaging of human beings.
Oh, great start.
Yeah.
But unlike property, sheep, so they, that was, he,
so it was passed, but then England was like, what the fuck are you doing?
So to England, he argues, well, you guys had slaves and you could mortgage people.
And then, but unlike property, sheep break legs and could be killed,
so Britain vetoed the mortgage your sheep thing.
But what does that even look like?
Mortgaging a sheep?
Yeah.
No fucking idea.
I read.
I mean, you would just pay like a sheep fee?
You put some down.
And then you like get the sheep and then some guys like, hey.
You put some down on a sheep.
Right, you put that down payment.
You get it, you go to the bank.
Right.
And you get a sheep loan.
Right.
And then you pay the farmer for the sheep and then you pay the bank.
Right.
And then eventually the bankers like, this is a subprime sheep loan.
Yeah.
This will be fine.
And then there's a big chili bone payment.
Yeah, right.
And then you're like, oh, I lost my sheep.
Yeah.
And then nobody from Wall Sheep gets prosecuted.
Right.
Right.
And they come and they, and they foreclose on your sheep.
That just means they pick it up.
It's called fur closing.
Yeah.
But I, I, I wish, I desperately wish that you could still mortgage sheep
because I just think it's awesome.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no.
I don't want to be pie dye shaped.
So don't worry.
So as usual, he goes after the high salaries of government again.
Fat cats.
He questions that Governor Gibbs is making the same as the US president.
But when he was nominated for Speaker, he quickly put forth a motion to double the
Speaker's salary.
Right.
He's consistent.
You're going to say that, right?
That's great.
Then he said the Speaker should have a dinner allowance.
What the fuck?
I mean, he's a little boy.
Yeah.
And that didn't go over well.
And the council mocked him to his face and people on the street started mocking into
his face.
To his face.
Yeah.
To his face.
I also love that it's the dinner allowance where people have drawn the line.
Finally.
Up until then, they're like, no, let's keep electing this.
No, if you want a dinner allowance.
Yeah.
No pateams for this guy.
William polled the motions and declined the nomination.
But it was.
Because of the dinner allowance?
Yeah.
Over the dinner.
It's going to take 20 million acres.
Okay.
A bunch of his allies then stopped associating with him after this.
So it just completely destroyed his whole situation.
So he then makes different alliance.
So he just aligns with different people.
Whoever likes.
I'll work with you now.
And he passed the Waste Lands Occupation Act in 1846 that solidified squatter control.
Now farmers could not buy land squatters occupied.
So this, this favors squatters than everyone else was kind of fucked.
So even guys who are pro-squatter are like, that's what the fuck are you doing?
That's too much.
By 1850 squatters controlled land from the coastal border with South Australia to southern
Queensland.
He wins his next election.
Right.
Because nobody pays the fuck attention to anything anymore.
Right.
Or back then.
Yeah.
Back then people didn't pay attention to it.
Yeah.
Unlike now when voters are very keyed in.
So now, after all this time, his financial interests and political interests are completely aligned
with James MacArthur, his old enemy.
Oh my God.
No.
I hope he adopts it.
Yeah.
So he has gone from being the common man's champ to just now being the rich guy.
And he says he will back MacArthur for Speaker, but MacArthur turned it down because there
was no dinner allowance.
Dinner allowance seems like a real sticky.
So he was a really poor guy who was a champion of the people and then he made money and then
he lost connections with the poor people and then he made connections with the rich people
and then he'd lose connections with them and he'd just keep moving around.
And in the end you thought, what the fuck is going on with this cunt?
So essentially, he's the original Dave Hughes.
That's what's going on there.
With a peach.
I just got back, what happened?
Sorry, I had to go to the bathroom for a minute.
I know that won't work for you guys, but people listening at home was not there, didn't you
even hear?
That was so quick.
You were gone for literally 35 seconds.
That was amazing.
You could see me really quickly, didn't you?
Yeah.
It's nice to be back though.
Oh, by the way, I didn't mean to bring this up before the show.
Is there a dinner allowance?
As an American comedian, I stay out of international comic warfare.
And international comedy in general.
Anyway, shots fired.
Will's back from the bathroom.
He's gone again.
So William still wants to break away from England, but now he wants to set up an Australian
aristocracy.
So Governor Gibbs pushes the bill to allow Aboriginal people to give evidence in court,
and Williams furious, and he fights it.
I don't think that should be allowed.
That move for no reason.
He says it would be, quote, quite as defensible to receive as evidence in a court of justice
the chatterings of the orangutan.
Oh, my God.
This is one of your guys, uh, hero, the great people.
Again, I can just ask that no one bring up the orangutan.
Like I've already said it, like I've heard about the mincer.
Yeah.
What's happening down there?
It's, remember Justin said it was like a orangutan going through a mincer.
Is this person like an Australian hero?
But don't do right wing, like would Skomo be like he's a great man?
He's absolutely, absolutely not an Australian hero.
We absolutely did not name an electorate that our foreign prime minister represented after.
Yeah.
That didn't happen.
Definitely didn't happen.
Definitely didn't happen.
Yeah.
And that electorate certainly isn't an electorate that favours the most wealthily and outreach
people and landowners.
Absolutely.
Never happened.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I know that because that's where I have to vote.
Yeah.
Well, to be fair, we didn't do that in America either.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Good for you and us.
That's awesome.
So GIFs bill to allow Aboriginal people to give evidence in court is defeated.
Months later, the owner of the Kangaroo Creek station poisons seven Aboriginal men and
the only witnesses were other Aboriginal men because Williams stopped the bill.
They could not testify and the killer walked.
Jesus Christ.
1848 was a year of revelations, revelations, resolutions.
Not revelations, no.
They were still waiting on that year.
Revolutions across the world.
Many people who did not have power fought for and wanted all of this very much upset
William.
He had once created a petition for voting rights of, quote, the entire free population,
excluding women, Aboriginals and foreigners, of course, and he now, quote, agreed that
the ancient and venerable constitution that treated those who had no property as infants
or idiots unfit to have any voice in the management of the state.
But peaches should vote.
Big ones.
Big ones.
Big ones.
Big ones.
So he's in a tight spot, though, because he was a rep in an urban area but backed the
rural squatters and he was afraid the working class would rise up against him very specifically.
So he stopped arguing for the self-rule for a bit.
In 1850, Britain passed the Australian Colonies Government Act and New South Wales could now
come up with the ways to vote for two houses of parliament.
So who did they pick to lead the reform?
William Hustler.
A fellow named William Wentworth.
He tacked an old-squatter ally for supporting the vote for all men, quote, wherever the
principle of universal suffrage has prevailed, it has been the signal for a massacre and
bloodshed.
He hated the idea of Australia being a federation with states having separate local governments
that sent members of Congress to essential government, and when he spoke against it,
his fellow legislative council members jeered at the crazy idea that happened.
But he knows an elected legislature is inevitable, so he switches it up, hey, this guy, are
there two of him?
Arguing men who paid more taxes should get more representation.
For sure.
But not Sydney merchants, they didn't actually produce anything.
And Sydney had, quote, really nothing to represent except a large mass of people, the most vacillating
ignorant and misled body of people in the colony.
Yeah, but look at that water, bitch.
A lot of pride.
Obviously this means he's done as a representative of Sydney.
On what grounds?
He wanted to be on a reformed legislative council that could veto the assembly's law,
and his idea, as the leader of the reform, was for a council made up of squatters with
inherited seats.
Only those members who could serve on future councils, William Wentworth, was basically
offering nobility, which is what his old enemy, John MacArthur, wanted.
So it was like sheep kings and their sheep princes ruling from a house of lords for generations.
You would just pass down your seat to the next kid, and that would be the government
of Australia.
Based on sheep ownership, essentially.
Ownership.
That's kind of what it is, anyway.
Opponents protested, William was mocked for being rich and drunk, as was James MacArthur,
and William's...
They're both like, ah, I mean, these two.
Fuck already.
Yeah, William's...
Just get on with it.
How many seasons do we have to go through this?
And William's awesome sheep nobility government plan was dead on arrival.
The legislative council agreed to a constitution with new council members appointed for life,
but with no ancient titles or being passed to sons.
And the new constitution had to be passed by British Parliament.
William is now completely unelectable, but a really good speaker.
So I love that the guy who sounded like syrup in a foghorn, they're like, get him up on
stage.
This guy's unbelievable.
It's like jammed through a duvet, this guy.
So the council, who just said his plan was shit, and they sent him to England to advocate
for the first Australian constitution.
And so he goes there and he lobbies for it, and it's passed in July 1855.
So William was hailed as the father of Australian representative government, even though he
was against it.
He adopted it like its own.
And he stays in Britain.
Life doesn't go well.
His daughter died, and then his son.
His son went insane from chemicals and batteries that he was developing.
What?
Okie dokie?
Hey, Ron.
Alright.
It's a little side story there.
It's his side.
It's like a real, another episode of the adult.
Let's hear about this battery wizard.
That's what, like, his last move was making the watch battery.
They were like, he's gone mad.
But William did return to New South Wales in 1861.
1861.
We got that.
Yes.
We got that.
Hey!
Now, was it James 24th?
You were just charting a course, weren't you, daddy?
Pod pops.
That's probably where I got that date from.
So he came back.
This is a new theme for you.
Just shout the date where the story ends.
So he comes back to campaign for land reform and an elected legislative council thinks
he had been 100% completely against, but the legislative council offered him the presidency
of the legislative council and a 1,200 pound salary.
The exact type of large salary he used to rail against.
But was there a dinner allowance?
Better have been.
No mention.
So he goes back to England and died at 81 in 1872.
Six to nine months later, he was given a state funeral in Australia.
How many months later?
Six to nine months.
Oh, right.
Damn.
I thought that would be the most Australian thing of all time.
Yeah, yeah.
Amazing.
70,000 people lined the route.
Wow.
300 native born, the currency lads walked in front.
But they were furious because they were joined by six, quote, barefoot and bedraggled aboriginals.
The Sydney Morning Herald reported that they were clearly unwelcome, which disputed their
claim to be, quote, native Australians.
Today William Wattworth is known for pushing self-government for the Australian colonies.
Wow.
What the fuck?
Yeah.
I mean, and one giant peach.
Yeah.
What happened to the peach?
Yeah.
The peach got put into a sheep.
Wow.
Really?
They thought it would turn into a double sheep.
Instead, it just kind of melted.
I feel like you're lying.
The sources are Andrew Tinks, William Charles Wentworth, Australia's greatest native son,
and David Hunt's true grit.
Jesus Christ.
Right.
He was just a fuck it.
I read that.
I'm like, oh, he's an American politician.
Yeah.
Right?
Like, it's the first, like, he just, whatever, whichever way the wind blows personally.
Yeah, that's what I'll do.
And yeah, I'll help myself out and make a bunch of money.
But everyone else who founded this joint was good though, right?
Yeah.
You know, you guys were, you guys are awesome people.
I couldn't find anything else wrong with this country.
Yeah.
You're really, really good, and you're getting better.
Yeah.
You're picking better leaders.
What the fuck is going on?
Sir.
Well, that's inappropriate.
Sir.
I don't.
Your bow wouldn't be wrapped that that wasn't comprehensive in anymore, I would have thought.
Yeah, it is weird because I think like, I mean, we're, we, you deal with such evil politicians
now that, you know, you just forget how awful people have, I mean, this dude is just the
fucking worst.
Yeah.
And like, it's just all based on, you know, personal position, which it is now.
And money.
How much fucking money did he need?
I know.
It's like, it's so, it's so psychotic.
They, like the fact that he tried to own a New Zealand and you're like, wow, what do
you fucking need?
20 million acres is just like, look, here's the one thing I will say, obviously it was
terrible that like he conned the 90 people that, well, he didn't in the end.
So this was why.
Yeah.
But he did for a minute.
He was like, those two days are like fucking eight.
That's a story to tell for the rest of your life, the day that you let fucking bought
half of New Zealand.
Oh yeah.
Do you mean like, if you're like at the bar in England talking about, yeah, I invented
the constitution in Australia and also once owned for a brief minute, half of New Zealand.
Yeah.
And that's the greatest thing you ever did.
You're like, you got to see a picture with this fucking peach.
I got two.
You grow peaches this size.
You need some land.
But let me tell you, you don't grow peaches this size and need, you know, 10 million acres.
That's bullshit.
Plus I got eight families.
I'm a league.
I'm a living nightmare.
I've adopted 19 of my own children.
Thank you everybody for coming out.
We appreciate it.
Give it up for Will Anderson.
Justin Ableton.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Bless you.
Bless you.
Bless you, bless you.