The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 550 - Eugene Talmadge

Episode Date: September 13, 2022

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Georgia politician Eugene Talmadge.  Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch   Notion Mizzen and Main Helix Sleep

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Patreon. We like to think it's pretty reasonable, unlike Dave, who again is garbed out in Herschel Walker campaign gear right now. Well, I love my Hersch. I don't like, I don't care about his football past or anything. I like what he has to say now. Yeah. No, he came out and he said, Mumful Burgers, would you like a pancake? And I was like, this guy. It's a pretty good promise. If he can get that done, look out. If you go to Washington and get that done, that's amazing. Yeah, yeah. We're big on the Herschel Walker train here at the dollop. Yeah. If you haven't listened for a while and you're

just tuning in for the first time in a minute, I don't know if you've noticed, but we are all about the Hersch. Yeah. We love it. We love Herschel Walker. We, this race is too close to call. So if you are in Georgia, please help us push him over the edge. Like running back who's kind of being stalled at the defensive line and just needs a couple of his guys to kind of just give him a little boost over. If we can get Herschel Walker into the Senate, we can see some real changes. A lot of change. Well, we keep saying we want young blood, but we still want it to be demented. Yes. So that's the goal. I got so

sunburned driving back from Vegas yesterday. Look at that. You had your arm at the car? No, I just had the window down and it just. Oh, you had the window down. I had. I went sleeveless. I went sleeveless. You went sleeveless? Topless? I was naked. I was driving naked. You were naked. I lost all this stuff at a hold in Torney. And so I drove back from Vegas naked. How'd you sell the car, though? Well, I didn't bet the car. I'm not an idiot. I just bet my clothes and all my money. You don't think very much of me, do you, pal? No, I got to be honest. And the reason is because the conversations like this, they make me

every time I'm stunned. Did we do the podcast? Yep, we finished. Thanks, everybody. Oh, one more thing. Yeah, we have a new podcast coming out very shortly. So buckle up, everybody. It's called The Past Times. Oh, that's all in motion to get it up. Emmie, Emmie Buzz. Emmie Buzz. All right. Three, two, one, date it. Oh, shit. I should pull it up. Where'd it go? Professional, professional, professional. September 23rd, 1884. Year of our Lord, Jesus Christ. Of course, it's Jesus Christ. Eugene Talmadge was born in Forsyth, Georgia. Gene grew up on a cotton farm. He was not raised to be a farm

hand. His parents like, no, you're going to do better than that. Okay. He and his sister, Mary Lynn, were educated. Gene's first hero was Napoleon. Wow. Pick one. You got to pick a good one. And when you're a young kid and you see a guy tear him through a year up, you're like, that's the guy. That's the guy. There's a red flag. Stick to picking cotton instead of picking Napoleon as your hero. Boy, we're off to a banging start. Yeah, it's terrible. People should probably turn this off. He constantly carried around Napoleon's biography and would bait people saying like, I can read any quote in it and I can memorize any. No, any quote. Then they'd be like,

no, you know, and then he just starts spouting, quoting it. Like he knew the book. He memorized specifically the Napoleon book, not just. Yeah, no, the Napoleon mission. Okay. So he knew every Napoleon quote. That's cool. Yeah. Well, you get I'm sure he got along with other kids great because that's not weird. It's cool. Kids love it still. If you go down to like a skate park, how old is he when this is happening? Well, he's a child. He's like 10 or something. Okay, 11. Like he's man, if he keeps this up, there's gonna be a lot of sex in this guy's future. Go ahead. At school, Jean was known for his speaking ability. He got top marks in

debate. Also a bit of a rascal. If I do say so, I'm gonna call him a rascal. Are you allowed to say that? I have a schoolmate quote. He had a great deal of devilment in him. Always playing jokes. He loved to start fights between the boys and then sit on a fence rail and laugh while they battle it out for no reason. Not a joke. So that's not like that. That's not like a prank. That's an instigator. That's a different word. Fun, fun, fun joke. He was a prankster. He liked to stab the teachers. He was a bit of a jokester. He lit fires in buildings where people were, you know, he had a good sense of humor. He liked to push

women into the street. He was very, very funny. He drowned animals. This guy, I'm telling you, get, if you're in a bar next to him, saddle up close because you're gonna have a giggle all night when he really just starts bar fights and hurts others. It's gonna be unbelievable. Every time at the time he gassed the hotel, this guy is just, he's full of them. I mean, we're talking about an 1800s Ashton Kutcher. He pranked Larry one time. He told Larry that Jeff was sleeping with his wife and Larry, Larry killed Jeff. But oh my god, what a prank. Well, and also the timing of the reveal at the wake. Yeah. I mean, everyone's

grieving and then he goes, he goes, hey, guess what didn't happen? Oopsie poopsie. And we all, we all went, well, you know, he's dead. I mean, so funny. Very funny. Good stuff. Very funny. So he goes to college, he gets a law degree, gets a job at a law firm, but he's bored and not happy. Okay. His father, Tom, was a very big landowner, a big farm and known in the state capital, right? He's got connections. Sure. So he has to legislator, friend for help, quote, I've got a son out of college, smart, a good worker, but so god damn mean, I can't do anything with him. Sorry. He's a prankster. Well, yeah, I mean, yeah. Okay. Prankster. We established that he

likes to have a joke. Yeah. Yeah. So his pranks sometimes are a little tough, like they're a little over the top, you know what I mean? Like some, some of the pranks are a little spicy. Napoleon was just making goofs across Europe. Napoleon was a goofer. It was a goofer. Yeah. A big time. He was, he was just, he honestly named one difference between him and Jamie Kennedy. I, yeah. Okay. Thank you. I can't. Thank you. No, you got me there. You always get me with that one. Thank you. So his friend gets like, all right, I'll take him on. He can come work on the staff. Okay. So he goes to work for legislator William Peterson. Peterson then sends him,

I assume because things are going great. He sends him to work at a law practice in the tiny town of Mount Vernon, which was basically run by the Peterson family. So he's like, okay, now you're going to go hang out with my clan and maybe they'll whip you into shape. Okay. And there Jean met and married Maddie Thurmond Peterson, known as Mitt. So he married a lady named Mitt. Yum. I mean, that's, you want me to take this bait? I don't need it. No, there's no, what, what could be bait ish about a young lady named? Yeah, he's banging a ladyman. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. She was a take to a shit young widow. She had a six year old son. Jean's just terrible personality led to him not being able to get a lot of

work as a lawyer in the town. Wow. I mean, when lawyers are like, you suck. Yeah, here's I don't want to be around you. You're bad. You talk a lot. That's for lawyers. I can't believe I'm saying this. You're a shitty person and we're lawyers. Also, everyone there is poor. So he would get paid in chickens and eggs or milk or whatever. Nice. That's great. That is great. Actually, that'd be great. Yeah, I didn't do to my show this weekend who had a ton of, he was like, I have a ton of chickens and I was like, I had to get him and he's like the internet. What? I was like, all right, relax. Yeah, it was like, yeah. I'm tired. So there might be some yawning. Just relax. Let's get off my back. Mitz late

husband had left her a 2,000 a year for sleeping caps a bit much. Okay. 2000 acre farm. That's a lot. Yeah, it's about 20 miles away. So Jean's like, Oh, farm, big farm, big profits. He convinced her to move because she didn't want to go, but he convinced her to move and start farming there. Very green acres. And then he found out farming was super hard. Sure. He's like, what? Where's all the stuff? Yeah. Where's all the, where's all the corn? Where's all the things? It's not, they just spray some water around. Is that not underground? I just, I look for carrots. I think there's nothing. This is not a farm. This is just a big plot of bullshit. Hold on. There's a chicken right there. So we're on to something.

That's good. All right. Oh, that's not ours. Where honey, where are you? I'm right behind you. I'm so lost. I just heard a voice from the cloud say if I build it, they will come. Oh, no, we need to make it a brothel. What? Yeah. If we build a brothel, they'll come. Honey, this is our calling. There's no way in hell that hasn't been done as a porn already. Oh man. Hey, bro, field of wet dreams, need I go on? Come on. I'm doing a lot of early nineties movie comedy lately. Sure. Yeah. So a mitt said, quote, we weren't hardly in the place and starting to plant before Gene decided he didn't want to be no farmer. Okay. So he starts taking off and mitt just starts

to farm it alone. So he's like, look at all this farmable land that he's like, this sucks. You do it. I got to go. Yeah, basically. Right. Okay. A lot of old black farmers nearby taught her how to farm. Thanks to mitt, the farm slowly became profitable and Gene would practice law. He also spent endless hours playing games of checkers. That was more his thing. Which could start to make money. We don't know how we don't know if there's going to be a pro checker league. Like this could be the story of the first pro checker league. You don't know for sure. Yeah. No, I mean, he's training if you're in the monarchy. I think it's so strange. Like I always think like the I mean, like there's just so little

to do. So checkers was just a barn burner. Really fun. Oh yeah. Because checkers in my lifetime was enjoyable and I had cable. Yeah. Like back then you're like, they just they've they've done it. They've done it. And then like old people are like, these kids are wasting their lives at these checker boards. Yeah. It's but look at all that. They're just check. They're always at the checker board. Then it's get out there and do something with your lives. You're you're gonna we're gonna evolve into a species with arch necks because you're always looking down at your checkers. Ridiculous. No, what's wrong with a stick? Just put it in your face. What's wrong with just having a stick in your pants? Okay, that's a good

grandpa. Go back in the house. The good game is ticker pills. When I was younger, used to put a rock in each one of your socks. No, no one did that. That was that was a game. No, it wasn't. I played that for five years without telling anyone. Well, I could have because checkers wasn't around running our brains. You've all lost the plot. You get a trouser stick your kids. Go take your pill. So sick of everyone. Why don't you go get a stick for your pants? Yeah, no, I heard that. I don't know what I've said and what I haven't said sometimes. Nobody does. This door is locked. Oh, it's a push. His genes attitude towards black people is pretty typical for the time. You thought they were open and

barely removed from savages should be controlled and segregated for mutual benefit of society. Now, every white every white person had their own sort of segregation line. Can we use the proper term crackers? Go ahead. Every cracker had their own segregation line and let black people into their lives. As long as they're staying in their place and they're comfortable with it, right? So Jean and his wife would hire black and white workers. Jean admits Jean starts working a little bit. He's working the fields with them. He would invite black workers to eat lunch in the house at the table, not next to them across the table. That's one of the lines. This is very progressive. Yep. Most white farmers would not do that.

They wouldn't let them eat in the house. But Jean considers the workers still to be in their place if they're there. So everyone has their own line. That's what I'm trying to get to. Yeah, and no matter where it is, it's pretty cool. It's bad. You're quoted as saying that you like the way it works. Yeah, yeah. It's not treating them like human beings, right? So you're into that. When his personal line was crossed, though, he let people know. Like one summer, a northern man and his wife and their black butler stopped in town and the wife and butler were strolling around eating apples and the town lost its shit completely. Oh my God. The merchants came out and threatened

them from their stores and Jean burst out of the courthouse, waving an axe with another lawyer who was waving a hammer and screaming. So they handled it well. The terrible... Who's got office axes? Who's just got, you know what I mean? Like you get your little like your desk set up. That's my axe. I'm going to need that. Just in case. And this is because she and the butler were eating apples. Well, just walking around just strolling about eating apples as if they're... Having a human experience together, right? Yeah, yeah. Having a human experience and the town completely went insane. Look, if you want to walk around with the butler, you can. If you want to eat an apple with the butler, maybe. But walking around

eating apples, my God. I mean, you're lucky I have an axe in my office. Not here! No, thank you. The butler ran off and no one ever saw him again. That's how... Wow. Yeah. Georgia had... That is quite a... I'm not saying... Look, it's very difficult to put yourself in the position of someone who's, you know, unable to walk and eat an apple with someone. Sure. But, you know, I mean, maybe you run to... Take cover. Give it a couple hours. But has anyone seen him? That's it? Okay. Well, yes. What? It's just very upsetting that this is how it ends. Because he was... What? A companion in many ways. Okay. Yeah. Just... Hope he's okay. No. No? Not... Don't care. No. Don't hope. What

are you all talking about? Oh, fuck. What is it? Go sit down behind the truck. I heard that a black butler and a woman were eating an apple. When I was younger, you weren't even allowed to eat the apples. Okay. Yeah, they were hats. No, no. Yeah. You couldn't take out your eyeball and put a baby one in it. No. You kind of did. No. Oh. I don't even know what's real. No. Shut up. I tried to shut it up. Oh, fuck. I lost my... I lost my pant twig. No, you didn't. Oh, okay. So, Georgia had what was known as a county unit electoral system. So it gives each county two votes for every rep it has in the legislature. Basically it can void the popular vote. That's basically what it's for. So it's run by rural

politicians to control shit. Nice. Man, I got to say, make us great again soon. Yeah. So also each county was controlled by what was known as the courthouse gang. So it was a group of dudes who controlled the courthouse and all the positions of power. I just... It's... I guess in the time that we've done this show, I used to be like, we got to get back to a time when things were better. And I suppose the lesson of the program is that that time just doesn't exist. That's right. It's always something like court gang is something that people are like, that's fine. The courthouse gang. Yeah. Yeah. The courthouse gang. What are we going to do? We got a courthouse gang. And if you vote, they can overrule it. If

you say... Instead of saying we need to get back to a time when things were better, you should just say, hi, I'm white. Yeah. Okay. I've tried that. And even then white poor people also fucking suffering and workers like... Well, I also think... I also just think that it is like there is so much omitted from what, you know, it's like... I mean, we talk about this all the time, but like the way that the founding fathers were romanticized, when you're kind of indoctrinated into that, you do go like, they had a great plan. And then it's like the... Yeah, they didn't. They were fucking pricks. And we just pricks the whole time and we're just... We maybe are flourishing now. Maybe. Are we? Yeah. I don't know. I mean

flourishing in the nightmare. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So ballots were not secret. So the courthouse gang knew how you were voting. And you get punished for not voting right. One of the big things they would do is they wouldn't pave the roads around your farm or take care of them. I like all this. This is good. So the roads are mostly dirt roads. They had big trenches that broke truck axles. It would rain and everything would get fucked up. So bad roads and a farmer couldn't compete like he couldn't take his stuff to market. Right. And that's important for a farmer. Sometimes. Right. In McCray, Gene started hanging around the county courthouse to try to get into the courthouse gang, but he couldn't because he was such

a dick that nobody liked him. Wow. So he was just Gene and he became so unpopular it was difficult for him to win a case in front of the jury in McCray. Okay. His father used his pull to get him appointed as solicitor of the city court. Okay. So like that's like an end around to get into the courthouse gang. You're like getting in a position of power. So nerdy, too. I mean, it's all bullshit, but the idea that they're like, we don't want him. And then he's like, um, so now I'm part of it because of papa. Do you want to, does anyone want to guess some Napoleon quotes? No. Well, if you ever want to kick around some Napoleon trivia quotes, I've got a bunch of memorized. It's not. And look, I don't want

it to be weird because I know you guys didn't want me in the courthouse gang, but here I am. So yeah, I don't want it to be weird. Hello. My name's Eugene. You can call me Gene. So they hated him so much they got the state legislature to eliminate the job. Oh, wow. So he was like showed up one day and they're like, your position doesn't exist anymore. He's like, but the whole nepotism, my nepotism. So he became friends with a guy named JC Thrasher who's also trying to break into the courthouse gang and having trouble. JC Thrasher. Yeah. And JC Thrasher always, uh, he was big dude. He was always eating food out of his pockets. His pockets are filled with food and he was always, so we have a character. Hey, how's

everyone doing? You want a little lasagna from my pants? There you go. What kind of salad do you want? Um, do you have like a fruit salad? Fruits out? Are you crazy? I got a fruit salad. I got it right here in this pocket. Here you go. What kind of dressing you want on your fruit salad? Ranch? Ranch? Blue cheese? Yeah, no ranch for sure. A little fresh ground pepper. Mm hmm. There you go. You got any chicken wings? Yeah. Yeah, of course I do. There you go. What do you want? Thighs or, uh, legs? Yeah, I like the thighs, actually. There you go. Oh, let me pull this grill out of my crotch a little bit. Get these little wings warmed up for you. All right. Anything else? You guys want anything to drink? Maybe

some beers, something like that? Uh, you got any Kool-Aid? Yeah, I got a bunch of Kool-Aid. What flavor do you want? I got grape. I got fruit punch. I got cherry. Yeah, absolutely. Here you go. Let me just mix that up for you. Just get that pitcher out of my pants. There we go. You got a fondue? Uh, I got a, let me take a look in here. I know I have one. I don't know if I have, oh yeah, yeah, I got a fondue pot right here. Okay. Here you go. Beautiful. And here you go. There's some, uh, some celery. I can really go for a soft pretzel too. Broccoli? Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Well, you want a Bavarian? Yeah. There you go. There's a Bavarian soft pretzel. Here you go. All right. There you go. Uh, anything

else? Just some broccoli, I guess. I need some greens in there too. I gave you broccoli. Oh, you did? Yeah, yeah, for the fondue. That's right there. So you see, you got the wings, the broccoli, the fruit salad with the blue cheese dressing. You got, uh, the Kool-Aid and, uh, the chicken wings. Uh, so yeah, do you guys, anything else you want to close out? Just a nice cheesecake for dessert would be good. A nice cheese killer's here. Hold on. That's right near my knee is the cheesecake. There you go. You got a lot of pants pockets. Uh, these pants are, yeah, I mean, look, I got a bunch of food in my pants. I am what I am. Uh, yeah. I'm a walk-in restaurant. All right. So here you go. There's a cheesecake.

Uh, all right. So your total, cause it's a late 18. Oh, I'd actually also, if I could just get a little, uh, soup, just a little, uh, yeah. What kind you want? I got, I have chicken noodle. I have a wild rice. I have a minestrone. Yeah. Um, there's some gusbacho if you want that. Yeah. Yeah. The minestrone is vegetarian. I have it with noodles and without noodles. Yeah. You, uh, let's do the without noodles. Uh, okay. So it's just mainly beans and bullshit. Okay. So here you go. That's a back pocket thing. Well, a lot of these are back pockets. I mean, to be honest, these, these aren't pants as much as they just are a food curtain. Um, all right. So there you go. Okay. All right. So, uh, your

total today. Sorry. What? This is not, uh, this is just a friendly exchange. Oh, okay. All right. Good. Good to talk. Take care, guys. Yeah. Yeah. See you later. Ow. What happened? A lot of stuff spilled. So, uh, he's also tried to break into the courthouse gang and gene helps him get elected. These carrots to get inside. He get, he helps him get elected to county commissioner. So he's got a man on the inside and then Thrasher makes gene the county attorney. Okay. So now they're both in there and, uh, using their power, they built a lot of roads, took the county's 20,000 surplus and turned it into a $89,000 deficit. But they were just trying to, they're trying to stay ahead of the courthouse

gang and so they can't get taken down. And then gene's like, well, look, I gotta, I gotta move up to state rep to, to, to not let these, to get ahead of these guys and so they can't fucking wait, but, uh, there, the roads thing, is that just pertaining particularly to gene and his farm? Is that what this is? No, no, no roads all over the place. They're helping people build roads. So they're just, so they're doing good stuff. Yeah. Yeah. But I mean, it's putting the county in a serious debt, but whatever it's helping people, infrastructure as we call it. And the courthouse gang is opposed to that partially because they like to pick which road and they can, yeah, they can use it to control people. Okay. Okay.

So now he's going to run for state rep and MIT's like, no, I don't want you to run for state rep. And first of all, cause I'm a MIT. Secondly. Yeah. Yeah. She hates politics. She doesn't like it. Uh, she thinks he's abandoning the farm. She's not happy about that. He just keeps campaigning. He doesn't care. He just keeps going and then he loses. Okay. And a few years later, you know what you do, if that happens, this is what you do. You go home, you go, honey, you find out you lose, you go home and you go, honey, you know, I've been thinking about it. You don't want me to do it. I'm not going to do it. Yeah. I'm not going to do it. You already did it. I'm pulling out. You lost. I called him earlier

and I told him I don't want to do it. We lost. I said, my wife is opposed to it and I love my wife and I like the farm. And you lost seeing myself not on the farm for a minute. I don't know. That's just not the vision I got for myself. I said, I want to come home and put on a mitt. Wink, wink. No, let's go to the penthouse for a little fornication and coitus in that order. No. Come on. No. So he runs for state senate and the courthouse gang really wants to stop them. So they bring a case before a grand jury accusing Jean of fucking his mule. Well, hold on. It's not Android away, shall we? Let's take a minute. So they're going for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They're going for. They were like, we

could say he's having an affair. One guy's like, say he's fucking the mule. The mule. That'll do. So now it's out there that he's a mule parker. Well, yeah, his anti the anti Jean people, the people against him would say quote, you wouldn't vote for no mule screw and son of a bitch, would you? Like that was I would. Yeah, very much so. By the way, that's the I always think that too. It's like, who gives a fuck? I vote for a mule parker. I don't care what you do to your mules as long as you get me. Yeah, if you give me a if you give me a high speed rail, bang away. You can high speed mule it. He tries to play it off like, yeah, I'm a mule fucker. Like you guys are just doing this shit to get me out of

his own it. His family's not great. Not great. Not a great. Yeah, it's not great. So but he went he wins the popular vote. We like his what he's doing with the livestock. But his enemies in the General Assembly ruled he lost because of the whole setup of that's how they do it. Right. Pretty cool. Yeah, it's a good system in 1924. JJ Brown is the state agricultural commissioner and he oversees fertilizer and oil, which he uses as rackets. It's a corruption thing he's got going on. So farmers are dependent on chemical fertilizer because they over farmed and that's still a thing today. And Brown employed fertilizer inspectors, but they would do it at the factory before it went in the bag. So when a farmer bought a bag of fertilizer,

it was maybe 50 percent chemical fertilizer and then just a bunch of sand like it was just a scale. Wow. And then they would pay off the inspectors and then they pay off Brown. So one inspector, the oil inspectors would just look at it. They just open up a train tank and look in and go, yep, there's oil. And that's that was it. And they got paid for that. So cushy jobs. But you had to vote in campaign for Brown. So he has a lot of supporters and a lot of enemies. Okay. Right. It's a whole system has got set up. Sure. And it's in place. It's been in place for a long time. And then 100 legislators get together at a meeting and they decide they need to run someone against Brown. And they pick a

guy to find someone and he he goes to Jean and Jean goes around and talks to each one of the 100 guys. He borrows a car. People lent him a dress shirt because he only had one. So he had he got dress shirts from different people to go to these meetings and he got all 100 guys on board. And then and then those 100 guys told the courthouse gang like, look, we're running Eugene Talmage for for this position. And they're not happy about it. They're like, okay, it's the party line. We're going to let you have this one. So Jean campaigns and he's a big hit. People really like him. He's a really, really good speaker. He's very dynamic. He's very entertaining. He's angry. He's funny. He's profane. People loved his

like intense directness and he cut his hair. So when he'd yell, his hair would flop in his face like it was a whole thing he had going on. It's just it sounds like a clown. I know. So stupid. Yeah. He's Bible passages like he did everything you need to do. He called clown hair on Bible passages. He's like a Christian carrot top. He called the oil inspectors the oily boys. Like he had all those little tricks. It's a good one. And he paints himself. He's an outsider. He's an independent guy, self-sufficient farmer alone against the, the, you know, all the guys coming after him and all that shit called himself a real dirt farmer. And then he won in September 1926. He beat one of the most

entrenched corrupt powers in the state. Mitt is like, I'm not going to Atlanta. I'm not going to. That's where you got your fucking job. I'm not going. That probably worked for Jean because a friend said, quote, Jean had a real magnetism around women. He usually had about four girlfriends. I remember one day he was going to visit one and was worried that he might be seen. So he asked me to get him a wig and a mustache, which I did. And he wore it that night. Wow. So he, okay. So he's not banging mules, but he is banging. Not mules that we know of. And he's walking around like Ringo Starr during the white album to sort of cover his tracks a little bit. So his first day at the agriculture department,

he goes in and it's empty. There's no one there because he campaigned that he was going to fire them all for being corrupt. So they just all left before you even got there. It's pretty good. And then he hired his relatives. He started hiring all his relatives. Nice. Taking advantage of it. He did a lot of expense paid trips. So, I mean, this again is all, I'm not saying that like, yeah, we had high expectations for this guy to be a system changer, but it is, it really is remarkable. You just get into government and then you're like, I mean, I could just enjoy my life. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to hire everyone I know. And then I'm just going to take a bunch of trips. So he writes, he writes columns against

big government. He, he did not get a new fertilizer bill pass, which is what he's trying to do. In 1920, he wins reelection. The press likes him. He's making the big city bureaucrats mad and the farmers love that, right? It's that whole thing. Yeah. Hogs are a really big part of the Georgia scene. Hog farming. But in 1930, profits are bottomed out because of the Chicago monopoly on meats. So Gene is thinking about buying $14,000 worth of hogs from farmers, Georgia farmers, but he needed the governor's approval and he knew the governor would say no. So he had a meeting with his advisors, quote, there was a number of us in the room and he asked us what we thought we ought to do. Knowing the state would raise

hell when they heard about it. And we said, buy the goddamn hogs. And he smacked his fist on the table and said, I'm going to do it. And then they bought the hogs. So he's buying $14,000 worth of hogs. Yeah. And that is why that's just because the people are losing money on the hogs. So it's kind of like a buyback program. Yeah, you're basically letting them off the hook. Now, what is he going to do with these hogs? He's a lot of hogs. He's against big government, but now he's doing a big government thing, which is, yeah. That's a lot of hogs, but he just send them to be shipped off to, they lose money on them because they're not worth that much. He just sends them all off to be, you know, slaughtered

and send out for meats and puddings or whatever you do. Man, that guy JC was like, I got a place for him. Oh yeah. Pockets. I got bacon pants. So I look like Lady Gaga. And since he didn't get approval, there's a big investigation by the Senate. There's a big committee hearing on him, uh, led by an angry Senator. He, so this center orders Gene to turn over a list of all his employees who are related to him. And it's a big, it's a big list. Sure. Okay. And the committee reveals he paid himself and his relatives 40,000, which is about 750,000 today, over three years. And they took every year paid trips to the Kentucky Derby. Well, to be fair, he was dating one of the horses. Thank you. He gave his brother $200 of department

funds and billed it as fertilizer inspection services. And then he told his brother to give $100 of that to Mitt to quote, teach the boy to save money. He paid his brother $200 and a hundred of it was to give to her to teach him how to save money to teach their child how to save money. Okay. So there's something very, there's irony in there somewhere. I mean, there's a lot going on. Might not nail it down right away, but basically you are being frivolous with money to teach someone how to not be frivolous with money. That's right. Okay. So the investigation finds the Gene bought hogs and poultry for the state and put $10,000 in furtive fertilizer tax funds into a bank

owned by his wife's cousin instead of the state treasury, which happens just as good. That is just as good. It's in your wife's. It's basically the treasury. It's fine. Yes. And there's other sort of corruption things. Papers attack him, but people don't care because they just see the hogs purchase. They just suddenly bought hogs for everybody. Because we are Dave, we are simple minded and we don't have time for the small stuff. Thank you. We just can't do it. We can't do it. It's not, we're not going to be able to do it. We can't do it. It's unfortunate for sure, but he bought all the hogs. Thank you. What are we supposed to do? No more than that. Get out of here.

So he looks like Robin Hood basically at the end of this investigation that they think they've got a male. He's Robin Hogg. In 1932, he runs for governor because he's got this groundswell of people who love him. All right, because again, people are stupid. Oh, okay. So yes, he runs people, people dig them. All the candidates are the same kind of, you know, it's all the same kind of conservative stuff. So it really comes down to personality. Right. And he's got that big floppy hair. He's got the floppy hair. His face gets red. He does a joke. He does a Bible verse, says some Napoleon stuff. Right. So one guy comes to him and says the car tags are too high. Now car tags are basically car taxes. They

were $630 in our money a year, which is more than cars cost back then. Right. So he runs on lowering it down to $3, which everybody like this is fucking amazing. Genius. He kicks off his campaign with a gigantic genius. I go ahead hoping we wouldn't. We did. We did. I haven't even gotten in my Eugene annex stuff. So that's not thankful for that. So he kicks off his campaign with a gigantic barbecue. The barbecue King Norman Graham was there. He made 10,000 pounds of barbecue and a thousand gallons of stew. Oh, my God. It's just it's Uncle Buck. Oh, God. People came to watch the mass cooking in giant kettles and a big barbecue pit and they stayed late into the night to be able to say, quote, I was there

for the big barbecue cooking. Yeah, I seen it. Yeah. They were watermelons and pickles and coleslaw bread and it's just it's amazing. We're just we're good. 10,000 people came. He spoke briefly and then they carried him on their shoulders. So his planks for the campaign are making an honest living, educating the children and securing good roads. He had plants who come to his speeches and yell stuff out like, tell us about the three dollar tag gene. And he'd always, all right, hold on, Ficus. I'm coming to that. He would always yeah, two plants, brothers, they would sit in trees and they became known as the tree climbing Haggard's and they yells that, you know, to kick them off, tell us about them

pigs. You stole gene and he I don't like putting plants in plants. They're not. It seems a little on the nose. They're not OK. So yeah, it's just it's it's crazy. It's it's set up things. People yell stuff. People go bug fuck. It's just like, yeah, he's defending this like it was all setups and right. His plants also did other things. They would go out and hurt his opponent's speeches by doing things like that's not a plan. The plants are now sort of deviating from their initial occupation. I mean, now they're like henchmen. We're plants. When the guy when their opponent starts speaking, they'd set a nearby car on fire so the crowd would rush over to watch it. More pranks. More pranks. This is just

we gotta have a very pranky episode. Gene's Gene's opening act was Fiddlin Fiddlin Fiddlin John Carson and his daughter Moonshine Kate. That's right. I'm fiddling. This is moonshine. She's nine and she's shit face. That's right. I've sacrificed my daughter's existence and her organs to be an opening act for a corrupted politician and I got a fiddle. I'm going fiddle until she dances and then falls down and throws up. I mean, was that her job was to get drunk? No, I don't know. I think she was just called moonshine Kate. I assume she played another instrument because they sang a song together. She probably played the moonshine bottle. Yeah. The triple X jug. They wrote a song just for the campaign called the $3

bag song. So the campaign's a big hit and he wins. And by the way, and I know that it's a hit. It sounds like a total shit show. It sounds awesome. Well, we're basically doing it. We've hired actors in trees and we're stewing around the country for the state. So he's governor now. So the kids have to move to Atlanta. Right. She doesn't like the city. She hates it. She wants to be on the farm. The governor's mansion. I feel like he hasn't listened to her a lot. No, the governor's mansion is in an extremely fancy area called Anzley Park and Jean. The first thing he did was put an old cow on the lawn, which kept getting out and eating the grass in the neighborhood and tearing up the greens at the golf club

like menace cow. Right. Jean and Mitt. She he had he asked her to build a backyard chicken coop. And this is just all for show, right? He just knows that the farmers are loving this. And but it would actually become soon. She would take to it and become one of his political advisors. Okay. Wow. So she starts immediately doing whatever he wanted. Right. The legislature refused to lower the price of automobile tags. So he did it by executive order. Okay. Well, that's a good move. Yeah, that's okay. He declared martial law and appointed members of the highway board when they resisted his efforts to take over the board. Okay. He had the state treasurer and comptroller carried out of their office was when they

challenged him. I mean, the thing is that it's like these moves are if a good if a person with a good plan were to do these moves, it would really be so effective. And it is it is possible to do that. But it's just like all you ever hear is like, I can't do it. That personality generally doesn't come with those politics. It usually comes with the authoritarian politics. Yeah. But I mean, that's what we need. We need to like have a scientist combine like put that in someone who's like, and I'll do it for people. Yeah, we're all going to live. My family is going to have so much money before they die. Yeah. So people will start calling him a dictator. Jean quote, I'm what you call a minor dictator. But did

you ever see anybody that was much good who didn't have a little dictator in them? Just a tiny splash of the gene gene gene gene over here just to smidge it a Mussolini. You know what I mean? Just a smidge of the moose, a morsel of Mussolini, a dash of Hitler. Come on. Interesting. You bring up Hitler. He admired Hitler. Oh, Jesus. And bragged that he had read his book seven times. Oh, my God. Jesus. God. There's a couple problems there. I really wanted to make sure I know mine comp. Really. I'm assuming it's mine comp and not that joke book you wrote. It was a joke book. Oh, OK. Blondes. Just called blondes. Blondes. Gene did not join the clan, but was publicly sympathetic to him. He had a what a time say that he participated

in quote a little whipping. Oh, good Lord. I don't know. Really. That's just you really there's some details coming out now, which are a little scandalous, to be honest, Dave. You're not great. So he runs again, runs for election again in 34. He's he's the rural working man's candidate. He's against the businessmen, carpet bag and guys in the city. OK. He promised he would never use troops against strikers. OK. He respected FDR and as a dam and he voted for him, but he does hate the new deal. Well, right. Yeah. This is the second. Those those two are not. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he did it. But he did a bunch. Yeah. I mean, I don't like the big one. The little stuff

I'm into. You know what? You know, a fellow I love, fellow, I really enjoy respect Santa Claus. Really? I love me some Santa Claus. Now, the gift given shit needs to stop. Yeah. Just a fucking stop. That's exactly right. Yeah. Yeah. He as the new deal gets bigger, he likes it less and less. And he likes FDR less and less. He's really scared of socialism. He believes welfare destroys a man's independence. But because all of his supporters are like working types, he doesn't ever voice that. Right. And he just acts like he acts the new big the new deal like all the supporters. OK. And they have no problem voting for someone who's conservative like Jean and at the same time a liberal FDR because FDR is about the

policies and and Jean's personality. So they're like, yeah, I can do both these. Even though it's clearly different ideologies. Yeah. I mean, the truth is, it's always like this. It's like, we don't you shouldn't the the vessel the person should matter just nothing. But unfortunately, we're always like, I don't know. Yeah, he's all right. I kind of like I like him. Have you read Hitler's Blondes? Come on. So funny book. That's a good book. So of course, he wins unions. Unions at this time have been trying to organize the cotton mills in Georgia for months and then violent reactions from the bosses. OK. So the textile baron is Jean contributor. And he tells Jane he needs the National Guard called out against

these strikers. Well, but unfortunately, Dave, he made that he's made a promise. Yeah. So so he only sent 4000 National Guard. Oh, well, I mean, it's you've got to compromise. Yeah, that's pretty. I think he found a way to put it pretty subtly. That's right. Thousands of union men are arrested in grass fields. They string up barbed wire to set up big holding pen camp things. Jesus. Photos hit the press of this. People are calling them Talmadge conservation camps. A guard now beats a worker to death. Conservation camps or concentration concentration. I say conservation.

Yeah, I was just good. That would be, you know, there's a difference. A guard beats a worker to death brutally in front of his family to show how serious they are. And basically, Jean breaks the backs of the unions in Georgia. The thing is that it's like nice to see what's happening in America now with, you know, with the union stuff, because it's so clearly like, even if you don't, I mean, you can just tell that unionization is good based on how the rich freak out over it. Like anything that makes them lose their shit, like that to that level, it's like, yeah, that's this is just do it for do it to agitate it for nothing else. But you clearly are onto something.

I mean, you know, we just had such a long period where people are like, either way. And now people like, oh shit, we need rights. Yeah. So he that's it. Labor is never going to vote for him again. They're fucking dumb on them. So then Jean says, quote, the next president we have should be able to walk a two by four. Oh, so he's the current president's in a wheelchair, a little bit of a slam at his disability. Yeah, Dr. Oz ish around this time. He tells the state treasurer, quote, I believe that the Caesar is born in every century. And the state treasurer says, well, you don't think that's you, Jean. And Jean says, quote, yes, I think so.

I'd like to think I'm a Caesar. Sorry, did you guys say you want some Caesar salad? No, no, I'm I'm saying I'm you I can do some table side salad. I'm see you want some. You're not talking about a salad. There's not a salad. Caesar salad. Not a salad. Table side guac. No. So this is nothing. This is nothing. Nothing new with food. How are you guys enjoying your not a food thing like your poppers? Do you guys need some more poppers again? Not a food thing. Okay, I'm saying, well, I am. Let me send out a sampler platter. And let's just get your let's get you like Caesar. Okay, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you're gonna like I don't want

the Caesar. Let me ask you this. Are you opposed to anchovies? I think it's better with I don't mind anchovies. Okay, there we go. Now we're getting somewhere. But I'm saying I am like Caesar. There we go. Mm, delicious. Try that. I haven't heard anything. Wow. That'll be $41. That's nice. Oh, wait, what? All right. Thanks guys. Welcome back to pants. So you don't even get a table there. No, no, you just go I just don't even order the guy just up. It's good. It's an assault. Yeah. Yeah. So now Georgia governors can't by the Constitution, they can't serve three successive terms. They can only do two and then they out. So after he's done, he runs for senator in 36 and 38

and he loses both times. Okay. But in 1940, he runs for governor again and he wins again. So you just need to take a break. You need to take a break. Right. Okay. So he's back with the popularity of the New Deal and his worker pandering and his dislike of big government and welfare and his attacking of the unions. He's in a bit of an ideological corner, right? A little spot he's created. Difficult, difficult. Yeah. But he's already in. He's in but to get stuff done to. Sure. What's his base? What is it? Yeah. Yeah. It's so he leans into I'm an anti-add New Deal FDR guy. So what do you do at this point? You basically don't want to talk about any of the economic stuff. You don't want to. So you lean into an enormous

lump of shit. Sweet, sweet racism. Oh God. Dr. Walter Cawking was hired in 1937 to remake the University of Georgia's terrible College of Education and he recommends the state give more money to black students and allow them to use some of the white facilities when white students aren't there. Just let them use the classrooms or whatever or you know. And there's a board of regents meeting on May 30th, 1941 and Gene comes as governor and makes a motion to fire that guy, Cawking, and another professor, Pittman. Pittman was president of the Georgia's teacher college and believed pro integration. So he wants these two guys fired because they're clearly too nice to black people. Right. He's got even he's got a southern strategy in the

southern state. That's right. So Gene said he would remove anyone who is in the university system who advocated for quote communism or racial equality. It's just so easy. The two bats. It's just so it's just like it's just it's often go together. Yeah, it's the political flea flicker. The regents who are mostly gene appointees vote eight to four that they will not re-employ Cawking the next year. So he's going to be out of a job soon. Right. But there's a backlash to this. And it forces the regents to give these two guys Cawking and Pittman hearings. Okay. Or a hearing especially for Cawking. So the opportunity for spectacle. Yeah. That's right. Faculty writes gene a bunch of faculty and they all

say Cawking is not an integrationist. So the people. So there's no one to root for here is what I'm saying. Well, yeah. But it's also like, I mean, there is it. But it's first of all, they abandoned. I mean, it's just like when you're saying that that's like that's what you're saying. Like, all right, that's our good guy. Fuck. That's our good guy. Not in the integration. All right. Yeah. Like you're fired because you like black people too much. And he's like, I don't like black people that much. Well, I don't know. I hate him. It sounds like you don't hate him as much as I do. I hate him. Yeah. Well, I hate him. So at the hearing, the evidence turns out all the evidence against this cocking

guys and the pit pitman guy are all from one employee who's disgruntled and has been fired. Okay. Cawking at the meeting swears he is not an integrationist. He's like, I don't want I just want them to get more money and they can be in separate rooms. I'm not. I don't want people sitting together. Come on. I don't know. It's still a little much. And the regions vote eight to seven to reinstate him. Okay. Well, you've proven yourself to be fairly racist, which we love, but we think you still have some growth to do when it comes to your biases. Yeah. So what we're going to do is we're going to reinstate you, but you're on probation. We're going to check up on you, make sure that you're not doing anything

kind to anyone who's not a white student, preferably male. And we're also just going to keep an eye generally on your vibe, your energy. Again, if you so much as not in the direction of a non-white student, we'll know about it. So for now, welcome back. Thank you. But again, it's a it's a probationary period. We really need to see some racism. Thank you. Yep. I'll be super racist. Go out, cats. And why are told cats? We're white. We're white. We love to be white. So Jean has a pitman's college library searched. What for? I mean, again, this is just. You're gonna find it. It's a library. You're gonna find something. You'll find some stuff. A picture of a vagina pornography. So I'm not over by

the way. I have another look at that. So they search a library for communism. I'm afraid not communism or anything else except Americanism. Is what they that's a little fine or what they're right. Okay, right. Yeah, right. Anything that's not American. Right. In a library. He publicly paints pitman and cocking as a communist financed by Jews to destroy Georgia's culture. And again, what's the policy? What? What? What is he offering the people? Just a no, he's for white people to be have their own stuff. Right, right. It's just like, right. What did the betterment of the law that just white people being able to do what they want and nobody bothering them or like around that would look be near them like a you know, roads,

bridges, maybe so maybe I didn't say right. But it's just white people in a room together and there's no black person in there. That's what we're talking about. So it's great. It's great. It would just seem like maybe you want to help with people's lives. Yeah, I am. That's what I said. We're getting all the white people to not be bothered. I don't have to see it. You know, right, right. Yeah, it's just sort of like, I don't know, it just kind of feels like, you know, sometimes just like, it's progress, people had more. Yeah, right. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Okay. Thank you for coming. I mean, I hope you yeah, no, no, I just yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I've got enough to just sort of yeah, just seems like again, be like, help

people a little bit. All right, we'll see you later. Whites away. No, I don't know. Yeah. So they like, not everyone's on board with this. He he starts removing the regions who didn't vote his way. Right. And even though some of them are lifelong friends, some resigned when he asked them, he just went and asked and they resigned, others didn't. So he had to make threats. Jean's friends and wife are all like, no, this is too far, you're going too far. This is a giant mistake. Amit, I begged him to drop the fight or it would ruin it. But he's like, I got to do this though. I keep saying, but that's white people. It's all I do it. Yeah. So there's a big hearing, a giant public hearing now of Pittman and

cocking and it's packed with gene supporters. He gets all the supporters out there. He's in a white suit with a 10 gallon hat, chomping them on a big cigar. White suit, of course. Oh, okay. So he's just boss hogging. Yeah, he's boss hog. Yeah. One of his advisors reads from a library book he found. Brown America. Wow. My blood quote throughout this book. And through runs. A race, the feeling of the superiority of the white man. Yeah, they want them to draw the races together. They want them to use the same schools, ride in the same trains. It means they want intermarriage. That's what it means. I mean, it just, okay. So I rest my case. Okay. Feels okay. It doesn't. What's the fear? Black people, white people

hanging out together in transportation and right schools. And then they start bumping stuff together and making babies and okay, all legal, all legal. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, I guess what, right. Yeah. I guess what we're okay. And what is that going to, what will that do? What? Well, I'm again. Oh, okay. How? It's not how it might makes opens a wormhole. Right. So other dimensions and whatnot, fire breathers, dragons, demons. Okay. Right. Right. Right. Come forth flying. A lot of us need money and food. That if we have, if we have black people and white people talking and making babies, who's going to have food? Well, I would potentially posit the point that, you know, things right now aren't great. Maybe

we try that for a little while and see if that changes anything and maybe makes things better in some way. Just give it a shot for a while. Can we shoot this? Can we shoot him? The one who said that, can we shoot? I want that guy. I feel like maybe I'm just saying I can, first of all, you're on a hot mic. I feel like maybe we just should try something different because it doesn't seem like anyone's advancing any legislation towards the betterment of our society. Did somebody, you know, as far as maybe, no, we can hear you. Did somebody bring the baseball bat? The baseball bat. Does someone have that? I said, I thought we would, I said, sorry. One of you guys was supposed to bring the bat for this. I think what we're

saying is that potentially the idea here is to keep everyone separated, but it doesn't seem like anyone's really doing anything that is helping us and we're the constituents. So if we maybe stop paying attention to who we spent time with in our personal lives or even if our scholastic institutions, that maybe we just start doing stuff that makes the city and the state better to live in? Yeah, that's what we're doing here. We're getting rid of it. We're getting it. So no, no, but I don't mean that. I mean, like, you know, just make our lives easier because that doesn't seem like it's going to make our lives worse, at least not with anything you've told us. How do you want to have a

fire station? So there's a fire station. Okay. You bring in black guys and white guys. Okay. Now they're all dead. So how is anybody fighting the fires? But what just happened in that middle part? Why are they all dead? Blacks and whites together. But why are they all dead? I think what she's asking is, why have they all died just because they're together? Because I've definitely seen white people and black people together. I've been around black people and I've survived it. So why does that mean they, no, no, I'm fine. I've been very fine about it. Well, sir, you're not going to heaven. Well, okay, sure, whatever. I guess I'm not going to go to the made up club in the clouds. But while we're here,

maybe we get a park with some slides or something for the kids. Who wants barbecue? Oh, God, I'm so, I'm going to suffer for this. All right. Yeah. Yeah. I have it. I've it. I've it. Oh, this guy's good. So the border regions now votes again, and they vote to fire cocking 10 to five because he replaced a bunch of them. And then yeah, right. It's very easy. So now the Southern accrediting commission announced it was investigating Jean's actions. Jean had cannot fire them. So it's causing a big ruckus because the accreditation, if they lose that they're fucked. So all these students are now getting worried. Parents are getting worried. He goes on the radio and defends himself in a super racist speech, which

he ended with quote, the good Negroes don't want any co mixing of the races. Oh, my Lord. George's Attorney General believed it's not illegal. I'm sorry. It's not legal to get rid of the regions as Jean had done. Okay. And that's when the AG leaves. So what is the point of laws? It's just sort of there to just kind of have fun. They're like ribbon cuttings. Yeah. So the AG leaves town for a couple days and Jean goes to the office and has a underling right. He supports Jean on the AG's letterhead and sends it out. Jesus Christ. So the AG comes back and he's like, what the fuck are you doing? He just invalidates it. And now they're publicly feuding here. Right. Another one that says that he

revalidates. So Jean is refusing demands. Everyone's demanding he rehire cocking. He refuses. He says that cocking is for race, race mixing and from Iowa. Quote, his conduct in Georgia is proof of the fact he retains the views and ideas gained by him in the state of Iowa. I mean, imagine a time when you're like these progressive Iowans. These goddamn Iowans coming. Oh, my Lord. So then the Southern Accrediting Commission votes to end accreditation in 10 public colleges in Georgia. So their whole system is now not accredited. Okay. So obviously students, you know, go bug fuck. Jean actually thinks that people want segregation so bad that they're okay with losing the educational system. It turns out he's wrong. He should

be around now. It turns out he's wrong. It's considered a massive embarrassment. In 1942, he runs again for governor against the AG whose name is Ellis Arnold. But this man just resigned. You wrote that on my letterhead. You stole a pat of it. You son of a bitch. I have 34 letters from the AG. Here's what he says he likes to bang mules. Come on. Who's with me? I'm still the guy. He wants to keep our nose basically running on keeping the school system open and accredited. So he's got it's pretty easy. He's got such a simple issue. He's also a very gifted speaker. So that helps his can pain slogan is eliminate the dictator. Okay. And he wins. Okay. So I mean really just yeah, okay. So he goes

right about he abolishes the poll tax. He lowers the voting age. He revokes the Klan's corporate charter and he supports not our corporate charter. He sports prosecuting 38 Atlanta police officers who are also in the Klan man. But he does not believe in social equality. So you know, this is I mean, this is basically what we we deal with now to to some extent. It's like when you have such horrendous pieces of shit, the palatable other option can be a piece of shit more than they need to be because they're able to get away with it by being the smaller turd. Yeah. And you know, and that's here we are. The American democratic system is called the smaller turd system. So in June 1943, black troops at Camp Stewart,

mutiny over segregation and bad facilities at their camp. Okay. This leads to clashes between black vets coming back from World War Two and white cops and officers. So whites see this as evidence that black World War Two vets are coming back more aggressive and more dangerous and more uppity. Everything we said was going to happen if you let them go over there and fight in that war. Well, it's happening as opposed to we went to France and we saw a vastly different state of equality. And now we came back and we're like, we fought for the fucking country. You should treat us with respect. Their uppity is what they Yeah, it really it's it is. You know, we just always find a way always always we're always

like this is the angle. They're ungrateful. Like what they just they did the thing that you said is the most giving thing or the tournament of dicks. Whoa. So black people are also leaving. They're just like, let's get the fuck out of here and go north. So that means labor shortages and higher wages. So it's just a real bad situation. And then in the spring labor shortages and higher wages. Yeah, because blacks are leaving. They're going to the north. So there's fewer workers. Oh, right. Okay, I see what you're saying. So in the spring of 46, there's a big union operation launched in the south to sign a million more laborers up for unions. And in that same year, the Supreme Court upholds

that it is unconstitutional to exclude black people from voting in state primaries. Because before this, they just said black people couldn't vote in state primaries. And the and it was just white primaries. The primary color, because it's a primary. So yeah, we still exclude people from voting in primaries. Yeah, I'm not allowed to vote for a Democrat, unless I'm a Democrat. And your Democrats are a private party, but not a private party. I have to deal with your result, but I can't say anything in the vote of it. But I got it. I got to join your party. So then I'm kind of in your party, but I really don't. Yeah, I'm a guy who joins your party, hates your party, but I joined to vote for a guy I think might be a little

more left. And then you go, well, you're not a fucking Democrat. And I'm like, yeah, I don't want to be a Democrat. Just let me vote without being a Democrat. And they go, no, you lie. The rules. What should we do? Let's email him 38 times an hour. Do you think that will solve it? I think that'll solve it. So yeah, so it's a, it's over, but that's over. The white primary is over. Gene, of course, announces he is once again running for governor. Bad time, I'd say. His only the room, Gene, his only campaign promise is to preserve segregation and end black voting. Wow. But it's, it's, I mean, even if that was like what he wanted to do, I mean, he's kind of like, like you were alluding to earlier, he's painted himself

into a corner, but this is a bad time to make that your campaign. Well, is it ever a bad time? I mean, it's kind of what we have now. Well, but like it is the timing is like now would be a good time to be like, I want black people's votes to count twice, but instead he's just like, I don't think they should be allowed to vote. It's like, well, we're voting and we're fucking probably going to vote against you. Well, why? Because you don't want to let us vote. Oh, well, there's always solutions. There's always solutions to that problem you just brought up. Right. Yeah. So Gene's been drinking. Gene's been drinking now for all his life and he's much older. He's in bad, his liver's in bad shape. Sure.

It's a dire. So his team tries to talk into him letting his son Herman run instead of him. He'll switch a roux. And Gene yells quote, I'm the only son of a bitch that can win it. I'm Gene. White Gene. Oh, it's just walking around his office. It's me still. Gene, the Gene machine. You can pour me another decanter of that bourbon. It's me. Who doesn't like Gene? I got the floppy hair. Look at the hair floppy back and forth. And he's got a couple guys that got the actors that come in to sit in the trees. Yeah, we got it. We got it. Excuse me, Gene. He's a tree. You're the best guy ever. That's right. I am. But I don't want to talk about that. I never seen a penis bigger than Gene's. I saw him at the pool

when he got out and it looked like it was suction to his thigh. It looked like a snake was sucking his anus. All right. That's enough of that. I want to talk about campaign issues. Hey, I'm Gene. I'm Gene. I'm Gene. I'm Gene. I'm Gene. All right. Give me a minute to see if we're all right. Who doing the Yeager Bomb? I'll do one. All right. Time for Gene to do a Yeager Bomb. All right. Let me tell you, I want to be addressed as Mr. Dr. Governor from now on. If that's okay with everybody. I'm Gene. Come on. One, two, three. For Gene Zajala fellow. For Gene Zajala fellow. For Gene Zajala fellow. How about I have some wine? Pour me a little wine. I'll have some more of wine. Come on, guys. All right. All right.

Let's put our hands in the middle. I count three. We say Gene. Eugenics. I still got it. All right. Okay. All right. Now, who's coming upstairs with me now? I'm going to slide down the banister without my clothing on. Come on. Did anyone bring the baseball bat? I got an axe. So, yeah, I mean, you know, he's right. He's the only son of a bitch. His team is worried that he's going to die before he takes office. That's how bad of a shape he is. I mean, that would be, to me, I'd be like, well, that's our best shot. And then that would mean the state legislature would choose a replacement from the runners up. We choose this ostrich. So they come up with a plan to run Herman as a secret right in candidate to get a second

or third place finish. And then he would be the second guy. And then they'd be like, you got to pick the second guy. And hope that, and this is all hoping that Gene dies. If Gene dies, it's just a, it's just a safety plan. Right. And not tell anybody to vote for Herman publicly, but just have, right. They go out and they tell a thousand hardcore Gene supporters, supporters to write in Herman. They're like, write in Herman. Trust me. Okay. He we Herman. Yeah. Okay. It's going to make sense. Okay. In Atlanta, the clan, it's been pretty dormant since the twenties has a mass cross lighting on May 9th. And then there's a Nazi style white supremacist group called the Colombians who are goose stepping through

the city streets, preaching purity and warning black people against moving into white neighborhoods. So it's a big racist wave, right? They're feeding off each other. Gene writes it, quote, if the Negro vote succeeds in defeating me, you will have to go around and politic with the Negroes go to their homes, knock on their doors with hat in hand, shake hands with all of them and kiss the babies. If you want to be elected. So if black George is to get the vote, they'd quote, become arrogant and drunk with their power says the drunkest with power man in the state. Can you imagine? So for the first time, his campaign has no barbecues. There's no fiddling John. No joking around. It's just tension and hatred. And

they're probably pushing like sauce towards him to be like, die, Gene. Well, I got to say this is this is very reminiscent of the the cycle of alcoholism. If you don't go sober, like there's definitely a there's often a rageful ending like you don't end well, you get bad. So the psychotic finale. Yeah. There's no big crowds either because radio has taken over and people are now scared. Everyone's scared race rides are going to break out all the time. So they don't want to go hang out in a crowd situation. So his his biggest opponent is a guy named James Carmichael. And Gene pays a guy who looks like Carmichael to tour around the state with two very well dressed black men who are paid to stand around

him and puff cigars and smile. I mean, he's basically trying to show what he considers to be George's apocalyptic future of black man, air, air, air, air, arrogant, affluent black guys who are standing around just like cocky and like, yeah, right. Meanwhile, I mean, again, meanwhile, like he is the worst right of all of it. But man, this is what he's saying is going to happen. If you like this Carmichael guy at a Carmichael rally, Gene paid black people $10 each to sit where the whites were sitting instead of in the black balcony section. Again, that is so it's the apocalyptic future where black people sit next to you. It's the dark, dark days who can imagine the absolute horror of sitting

next to a person is not the same colors. Well, and it's also like it. I mean, the like there's just it's a real racial onion because it's like the fear like the need the want of $10, the fear to have to go do that and sit there. And all of it is to try to hurt your own feet. Like it's just like there's a it's like it's like a sailor's knot of race. Yeah, I mean, my understanding is they they would like take the money because they were like, well, they're going to fix the election anyway. So what does it fucking matter? Well, it's also like, you know, I mean, I mean, when when you when you have few rights and it feels like, yeah, they're going to get taken away, like you can't think

of like your fucking five year strategy. I mean, so what you see that now as far as with class, it's like, you can't think of your 10 year strategy when you're worried about your, you know, 10 days. Yeah. So on July 25th, 1946, obviously, this is just, you know, it's just creating hysteria and fear and blah, blah, blah, blah. On Moors Four Bridge, a mob of whites grabbed four young black people, George Dorsey, May Murray, Dorsey, Roger Malcolm and Dorothy Malcolm, and they lined them up and shot them about 60 shots were fired. Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ. That night cops drove through black neighborhoods and warned people to go inside and turn off their lights, which was taken as a threat

by most of the people. This is considered the last mass lynching of black Americans in the US. Jean's rhetoric is now blamed as a big factor in this, this killing. And Jean came out and said, well, it's regrettable. So his camp now exploits this very little known provision that allows citizens to challenge someone's right to vote. If you can imagine living in a country where a random person can challenge your right to vote, that's what blatant nightmarish racists did. And oddly, what Republicans do today. So I don't know where the correlation is, but maybe we should figure that out. It's almost as if they're the same fucking people. So black voters are male forms stating they had to appear in court

quote to show cause while your name should not be stricken from the list of registered voters. You're right to register and vote has been challenged. And at the above time specified, we will hear evidence as to your qualifications as a voter and as to your right to register and vote, which is what's happening now. Your qualifications as a vote. I mean, yeah, this is this is when you hear a voter ID. This is what this shit is. People are being questioned. This is what this shit is the same stuff. Well, and it's like, I mean, especially, I mean, again, it's like what just took place. You know, it's scary. I mean, that's like you're you're adding this extra like hoop

to jump through that in a time where you probably don't feel super fucking comfortable, you know, you are just asking. I mean, obviously, just it's it is very easy to just tilt. Well, look, DeSantis just did a reverse one of these where they sent people letters, mostly guys who had gotten out of jail and said you can now come register a vote. And then they went register to vote, then they arrested them. So it's kind of the similar. Yes, that's what happened. That's what DeSantis did. So these people have come down to these hearings and the questions were from like just ridiculous to blatantly racist. Quote, what is an ex post facto law? What is a bill of attainer? What white person asked you to register? Was you

ever in the stockade? Like it was just a just a series of just white people being fucking assholes. So the night before Election Day, a cross was burned in a black section near Greenville. And Cairo masked white men shot guns outside the homes of prominent black men warning them not to vote. And Augusta leaflets warning, quote, keep away from the polls or death. We're left at front doors. Some found threatening notes tucked in the newspapers in the morning. On Election Day, white men armed with sticks and rocks prevented about 50 black people from voting in Manchester. It's starting to feel unfair. A white man in Taylor County shot a black man named Macio Snipes. Snipes was the only black man to vote

in his district. Wow. Some paid black farm workers. Some people paid black farm workers $5 to vote for Jean. They figured take of the money as their vote would be thrown away anyway. So what's the difference? Atlanta Constitution, quote, Eugene Talmadge has run this race on a platform of bias and bigotry. He has constantly defied the Supreme Court and recommended action in open conflict of the law. He has preached hate and animosity. Jean was again elected governor. No fucking way. Hold on. My God. Not by the popular vote. Through the county unit system. Oh my God. So he lost the vote. George. Which is again, what we're facing all over America now, they're doing the same thing. It's fuck with the

votes. It's all this stuff. And all, I mean, what you're also seeing is like, he's just, he's created the people who will do the bidding. Yes. And when you have that, like when you have secretaries of state who are supposed to certify election results and are going to have the upper, I mean, yeah, we are, we are certainly pretty fucked, but that is crazy. Yeah. So he is. And he's just a booze bag. Yeah. So he now, the campaign's over. He's tired. He goes to Jacksonville to take a little rest while he's tired. Yeah. He had a long hard campaign. While he's there, he's eating some stew and he collapsed and was taken to the hospital. He had a ruptured vein in his stomach and he was put on a poached

egg diet. I have no idea what's happening right now. You should probably eat some semi raw eggs. Well, we're going to need to put him on a diet of pure poaching. You know what you need. So there's some soft eggs in your tumtums. Thank God. You're a good doctor. He recovered so quickly that he rushed out of the hospital to spend Thanksgiving at home where he. Yeah, right. Okay. Wait, wait, wait, wait, Dave, this is great. Okay. So he is in the hospital with a ruptured stomach vein. If you're the doctor, you're like, you know, let's pretend that we're going to do a surgery on the 28th just so that we keep him here. Instead, you're just like, well, you should be out of here for the gorging holiday. Why

don't we get you out of here for the biggest day of feeding? He left on his own. Ever. They didn't tell him to leave. He bolted. This IV is full of gravy. Where is he? So he just bolts to just go pound turkey pound turkey and everything else. Just his stomach hammer just again. Jesus Christ, Dave, kill this man. I'm not trying to be dark. This man die. And he's back in the hospital. He's there for two weeks. He's not getting better. And he calls two close friends, a reporter and an advisor. And he tells them giving killed me. Herman's the future. You have to guide him and help him win office. On December 21st, 1946, Eugene Talmadge died of hepatitis and liver cirrhosis at age 62. He had not been

sworn in for his fourth term. Okay. Now, Marvin Thompson was elected Georgia's Lieutenant Governor, and he says, well, I'm governor then. The state constitution said the Lieutenant Governor would take over if the government died in office. But remember what Jean's campaign did with Herman. Right. They had planned for this. So Jean's camp said, yeah, you'd be governor if Jean had died in office and you were in office, but neither one of those things happened. He had not taken his oath of office. And they guys said, Herman got a thousand right in votes. So he's actually in second place and he should be governor. Then Governor Arnell. So right. The age you'd want is still governor. He's going out. Right. But he's

in office. He doesn't like, but he's not a fan, obviously. No. Right. And he says, well, I'm not going to leave office until this is all resolved. Right. And the Georgia General Assembly gets together in January, 1947, and Herman addresses them and says, you got to count the right in votes. So they do. And he does not have a thousand votes. He's actually way under that. He wasn't even first of the right in candidates. So Herman. Yes. So Herman looks done. And suddenly. No, they find a magic box arrives from Herman's home county. And it has in it. Fifty eight recently found. Right in ballots for Herman Talmich. Uh huh. Now they are going to count the ballots. And again, and crowds gather in the galley around

the gallery around the assembly. Uh huh. That one's there to watch old fiddle and John is walking the halls, playing sugar in the gourd, a classic. Everyone starts drinking. Politicians start to yell at each other, almost getting in fistfights after a bunch of drunk speeches and counting of the ballots. The General Assembly elects Herman Talmich, governor. God dammit. And swears a minute, two o'clock in the morning on January 15th, 1947. Wow. Now Talmich backers go nuts. They party all night long. The next day, the building is a mess. It's covered in food wrappings and there's cigar butts all over the floor. The toilets are jammed with bottles because rural people would throw their used bottles in their outhouses. Oh my God.

So they did the same thing in the government. This is the government. This is like the government. This is who's like, I mean, it sounds like a bunch of buccaneers. I mean, this is real pirate shit. Herman asks Arnell to honor the election. And Arnell says, go fuck yourself. The legislature, let's be fair. The legislature has no right to elect a governor. I'm not leaving office. The next day Arnell is blocked out of the government's office by Herman supporters and the National Guard. He starts calling Herman the pretender. And he said Herman was afraid to see him face to face. And then this goes on. And Arnell keeps saying he's the rightful governor, the legislature can't elect the governor. And for weeks, he sets

up a separate governor's office in an information, information kiosk in the capital Rotunda until Herman orders. What are you selling here? Cell phones? No, no, I'm, uh, this is the governor's office. I'm governor too. I'm also the governor. I'm also the governor. CBS. I'm the governor too then. Out of his window, Herman. Don't listen to him. He's not the governor. I'm the governor. Like hell you are. I'm the governor. Oh, here we go. So Herman orders state troopers to remove Arnell. This fights are breaking out between supporters of the two governors. Eventually Arnell finally gives up. Wow. But he instead of just walking away throws his backing to Lieutenant Governor Melvin Thompson as the new governor. Okay. So now there's

still two governors vying for the job. Uh huh. Yeah. He, I mean, I like that move. He's like, I can't handle this anymore, but you can. It's like, I mean, there's like, he just tags him in. You try. You go. This sucks. Each, each guy Thompson and, and Herman have appointed their own government officials. Neither, however, can sign legislation or do official action of any kind because there is the great seal of Georgia and it is a small hand tool that you basically emboss all official state documents with when you sign them. Right. And when all this, when all this started, the Secretary of State grabbed it and tucked it into the cushion under his wheelchair. What is going on right now? And nobody knew

where it was. This is like Georgia Game of Thrones. Okay. So, so the magical sealer has been hidden under the Secretary of State's wheelchair cushion. Yeah. So we have two governors who can't pass anything. That's right. There's basically no governor, but two guys saying they're governors and the wheelchair guy keeps it under his wheelchair all the whole time. And he sleeps on, he sleeps on it at night. And 60. And are these two like looking for it at like, cause one of them, I find this, I could actually do this. People are looking for it. They're looking for it. Right. Right. 63 days. Dude holds on to it. Oh my God. Georgia now is just being ridiculed across the country. In March, the Georgia Supreme Court finally

rules five to two that Melvin Thompson is the governor. Oh my God. But. Oh no. A special election has to be held in September, 1948. So it's less than, it's like a year later. They're like, it's not going to be the four year term. You're going to have another election in a year. Right. As soon as they make that ruling, Herman walks out and starts campaigning . This is the zombie race. And he wins. Oh my God. What the fuck? What the fuck? Just like his father. He drank a ton. He's very into segregation. In the seventies, one of his sons drowns. I should say he goes, I left aside, he, after he gets, he's done with the governorship, he goes into Congress. The private sector. He goes into Congress. Yeah, if you

can imagine, he goes into Congress. In the seventies, one of his kids dies, he drowns. His wife's mother and brother die in the same year. His wife starts having mental health issues. In 1977, his wife is watching television. When a news anchor says, Herman Talmadge has filed for divorce and the marriage is irretrievably broken. And she walks into the other room and asks Herman, quote, is, is that true? What I just heard on TV and he says, yep. That's, that's, I mean, the truth is, not a lot of us have an opportunity to divorce through the news. So we don't know if we take advantage of it or not. It's not fair to judge. Unless you realize that you can have the nightly news, hand your wife divorce papers.

So they have a very ugly divorce. She testifies that Herman kept large amounts of cash in an overcoat at home. She said there were, there was a very large stock transaction that had never been disclosed as it should be legally. And it is revealed he's only written $600 in checks for cash in five years. Now, before ATMs, you would have to cash a check to get cash. Right. So in five years, he only used $600 in cash. Well, I mean, that's thrifty living for you. And then Herman to counter that says he got most of his pocket money from constituents. And, and as his lawyer like, can we actually take a recess? No, no, no, no, no, no. Let's take a two day

recess. No, no, let me finish. Your honor, what is being misconstrued here is of course I spent more than $600. I just didn't need to get it from a check. I was being bribed. No, God paying me off. Fuck. All of my constituents were no, I'm why is everyone looking like you just stop glue and doom. I was getting paid off. I haven't seen anything's bad. Jones one. Look, look, look. This was bribe money. No, no, I was breaking the law to get cash. I don't know what I'm not saying right here. It's I broke laws. What are we in court?

I'm one. Does the judge want money? Your honor, can I give you money to get you to it's not be a dick about this? Your honor, what I no, no, no, I realize this is a divorce proceeding, but I would like to submit a I was going to have my wife. I would like to submit. I wanted to have my wife killed, but I would like to if you give me money, I'll do what you want. I my my did that for a long time. Please guilty at the divorce court. He please guilty. He would like to be I like money when it is given to me and then I do what I want to do for you because I need the money. That's say a man couldn't live off a $600. I mean, I'm talking about tens of thousands of dollars hundreds. I don't understand

why every everybody's face right now is crazy, but mine. This is bonkers. When is the trial start? Okay, I have some notes here, but they're going to be we should probably just adjourn or have a recess or just actually, you know, I'm, I'm going to go to the playground. I'm going to shoot myself in the parking lot. No, no, I have a guy come in to get I hired a guy to kill him. I've hired a guy to kill him and everyone here. You poisoned. There's poison in the water in the court. I got a guy to do that. I've a lot of oil money. Fun. I'm on a gin bender. So he ends up being investigated by the Senate Ethics Committee. And he is formally denounced. That's what they did with that. They formally denounced

him. Yeah. Well, I mean, what are you going to do? He admitted to just taking, he admitted he didn't use a bank. People just handed him money constituents and the Senate simply denounced him. Get out. You're not part of this club anymore. Now he'll be a private citizen. After this, he went to rehab and got sober. He ran in 1980 and lost. And then he retired from politics in 1987 and died in 2002. There are still Talbage is doing things. One currently a lobbyist in Georgia. Oh, my God. So they are not done. Research was done by Saraw June Rev. Georgia. Psychopedia is nuts. The man from Sugar Creek by William Anderson, three governors controversy, Skull Diggory, machinations and decline of Georgia's progressive politics

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is Richard Russell, 1936. Yeah. Man, that is bad shit. All right. Isn't that bad shit? Let me just say one thing quickly. It does, because we have our Moment House show up still. You can go watch that. It's also, there are some parallels between us. There are. Which is a crazy story, and you can just go find it on our social media. The Moment House one is Jimmy Swagger and others in his circle. But this is so, you know, I mean, this is the thing. I mean, this is like the, this is the thing. It is, you know, you just, I don't know. It's like, can it ever be defeated? Well, okay. This is a story about the worst winning constantly. And we're always in the

midst of that. Like it's like the pendulum swings, but you need to really have, you just, you're just not suited to combat this level of assault on what is supposed to be a system that, well, that's what it's always been. I mean, conservatives have been assaulting what should be just an awkward, not great system. But the conservative mind is a reactionary fucking nightmare of blackness. And if they aren't doing this, they find another thing. They're always fucking mad at shit that they can't control. All the parents right now, right now are mad at CRT and masking and other things because they're bad fucking parents. They are bad parents. If you go talk to teachers and you go talk to principals, you go talk

to school boards, all you hear is, yes, the fucking asshole's screaming before the pandemic were bad parents. They're bad people and bad parents and shitty at what they fucking do and they get mad at everything around them instead of taking the slightest bit of fucking personal responsibility. But that's all this shit is. And they just go from subject, whether it is school books, or it is black people in schools, or it's Latino people in fucking schools, or it's not enough guns in schools, it doesn't matter what in the fuck it is. Gay people, they just fucking scream because everything isn't the way they want it to be. Much the way my child used to scream when he was four. Their minds are fucking simple,

pickled little shit things. It's just amazing for the most, the people in the most spoiled race to victimize constantly. That's how we got the Holocaust because these little fucking babies are victims and they start killing people. Because they're scared. They never go away. They're little baby people. This reactionary shit never fucking stops. It's a relenting nonstop battle to try desperately to get them to behave for 20 years so we can live in some sort of existence and then it goes back to their fucking shit and they want to kill people and they're fucking screaming again and it's relentlessly unstoppable. I know. It is, man, it is fucking impossible. Little pig people. We are, we're not at the

worst of it. That's what's fucking crazy. We're not. We are just heating the pan. When you see, it's just again, when you get frustrated with the Democrats, it's because you should be fucking slam dunking on this shit. Slam dunking. This is a slam fucking dunk. The only thing you slam dunk on is the left, but this is a slam dunk. But you are, you're dealing, when you look at the DeSantis shit, the reason why the guy is so scary is not because he is clearly corrupt, evil, racist, homophobic, whatever you want to put on it. It's that he's got a bunch of people convinced that he's not a bad guy. And so to some conservatives, they're like, Trump, I don't know, it's getting old,

but DeSantis is, and you even hear liberals be like, he would be better than Trump. No. And these are all the problems. And again, it is to your point, it's just like a shitload of white people who are just, it's easy to not know how affected, when you're rich and you're white, it's very easy to not know how people's lives are affected. And when you lean conservative, yeah, you are like, I mean, it's just a conservative thing is that people are like, oh, but like David from is, is, is he's against Trump. Right. But he's also for like exterminating people to border. He also was 100% behind a war that just fucking

killed a million people for no goddamn fucking reason. Like you just can't, they are monsters. They're all fucking monsters. We have norm, we have normalized the people who started the Iraq war on a level that is unbelievable. We're never going to be able, we're never going to be able to get it back. Liz Cheney's not your friend. No, she's a fucking skin eating demon. They all are. They're not your friends. There are no good ones. The good Republicans are the ones like John McCain. And by that I mean he's no longer here. Well, guys, we will, we'll be a tour. Yeah, no, I, you know, I mean, I don't know. I, you know, I mean, I guess that's what the fuck, what the fuck, we're just all waiting for the spark.

And then we can actually history really is just a series of, of right wing people flipping out. That's all it is. And people trying to, people trying to save their lives. And right now the entire planet is controlled by right wing capitalism. If you're left wing, you're not a capitalist and you're just getting harmed. And, you know, we can look at our, our, our, our friends in South America who have been overthrowing right wing governments and like Chile and, and Bolivia. And they also have tons of lithium underneath their feet and they're all going to be destroyed by the CIA and the American government and they're going to live in fucking concentration camps because this is a cycle. And if there's good

shit under your feet in the ground, they're going to fucking kill you if you're a leftist. That's how it fucking works. And everybody in America will sit around and think it's really cool because they have great cars, great electric cars. Well, yeah, we'd be, well, I mean, and that to that point is because you're, you know, they're going to turn on the fucking, you know, the news and they're going to be talking about, you know, Ivanka's clothing line or, or whatever the fuck. I mean, just stuff, you know, stuff that, sure, not saying it doesn't matter, not saying, but, but they, I mean, the queen is a fucking good example. Holy shit. How often can you report on a fucking

dead almost a hundred year old? She's dead. There's nothing new. There's no news. You don't need to drive her through the city. She's dead. It's officially, it's officially not a newsmaker anymore when someone can't breathe. She died. There's no more news coming out of the Queens. Yeah, that's it. She's gone. That's okay. Two weeks ago, sure. You could have told me there was a story about the queen. Probably would have been relevant. She's done. You, you, you need to celebrate the lady who had a fucking birthday basically every day of her fucking life and had fucking 500 billion dollar diamonds put in her fucking forehead. Do you know, you've got to be, I mean, they,

you got to shake your head if you're in these positions. You got to be like, I mean, we have fucking fencing up to stop the rioters and they're actually throwing flowers at it. Like what a bunch of fucking morons. I watched today. I watched a, let's hug the warden. I watched stay an old man who had a sign written on a piece of paper. He clearly just written it and it said, I have no king and I watched eight policemen moving him off the sidewalk. Wow. What? Yeah. Well, the UK is the UK. I mean, yeah, that's the UK. That was the UK. Yeah. But it's like, yeah. Okay. So there's your priorities. We get it. There's no other

problems going on. That guy. No. Yeah. Yeah. That's what this shit is. That's what this shit is. It's just fucking ridiculous. But now we have to go. Now we have to go through another wing, another wave here in America of right wing hysteria, hysteria. Giant babies throwing shits like we just will be just fucking heard about. They just, it's the election day again in 1947. That's what we get to go through because a bunch of people are throwing a fucking fit. It's just exhausting. They're fucking exhausting. There are no good Republicans stop it. They don't exist. A lot of Democrats aren't good either, by the way. Sorry. Um, well, I mean, I guess we should probably just stop recording now. It feels like, do

you want to just, do you want to just drive to each other's houses and cuddle? It's too in a park. Yeah. Okay. Love it. And then we'll go wilding. Great. Great. Oh, man. Wow. Wow. God damn.