The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 551 - Sinatra in Australia - live w/Becky Lucas

Episode Date: September 20, 2022

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine Frank Sinatra's 1974 tour of Australia Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch     Squarespace Mindbloom...

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Starting point is 00:05:59 here's what happened we did a show with the delightful Becky Lucas in was it Sydney it was but it was like a weird me suburb or something yeah and it was like yeah we were after the show it was one of those shows I don't know why we didn't have the backup mics on but after the show I think I didn't bring three alien too so we didn't have the backup mics and the guy who was helping us out the what tour manager comes back and cuz so started a little late like a half hour in yeah and we're like that's good but that's that's great so fortunately fortunately that half hour was mostly us just messing around so
Starting point is 00:06:55 almost none of the podcast was missed yeah so it's like literally like four sentences and then it kicks right in so okay so we're gonna redo the four sentences so people understand yeah right that's correct now how did you know that well I when you it's called the power of deduction I deduced I heard what you were saying and I thought okay he what what he what we need to do is just redo that part and yeah I'm proud let's get into it because it's a good it's a good episode it is a good episode January 16th 1955 year of our Lord head over to war good Frank Sinatra landed at a mascot airport in the
Starting point is 00:07:51 suburbs of Sydney Australia for a tour and if memory serves I said at this point what the fuck Frank was on a bit of a comeback after being a huge you know thing in the 40s things kind of fell off in the 50s his vocal cords hemorrhaged at some point he was dropped by Columbia Records his marriage to Ava Gardner just lasted two years much like ours has and it ended in 1953 he was very at this point known for having affairs so what do you think got in the way of this marriage any ideas or any theories or pitches for what what what do you think the I mean so he's married for two years and she's just and he's having these
Starting point is 00:08:49 affairs what do you think do you think I guess my question is is there a correlation between those in your opinion between Frank being like a fuckboy in his marriage not working yeah I can't imagine that that would have any sort of effect on a marriage right okay that's just that's called franking right yeah it's called sinning nacha baby like I Frank your sister like that kind of thing Jesus so movies kind of seem over I'm also at this point now the other thing was Frank I'm over movies doesn't even matter I'm always done with me no I'm done with movies I'm gonna bury movies in the desert baby so he has a
Starting point is 00:09:45 lot of mafia connections and they're written about his manager said Frank didn't like this that this was being written about and and he thought he was being a written about that way because he was Italian and the media had anti-Italian views but it's one of those things where it is true so so it's true and he's like why do people always think Italians are doing stuff with the mafia that what Frank you're doing stuff with the mafia he's like yeah but they don't know that they don't know for sure and so now we're gonna kick into the live show that's where we enjoy Lucas and us live live dolloping three two
Starting point is 00:10:31 one let's go to that live broadcast baby sure which I just feel like as if you wouldn't have loved being connected to the mafia yeah no he it's so cool I think you what maybe it wasn't then I don't really because now I think he wouldn't give a shit he'd be like yeah I'm hanging out with the guys who cut off nipples or whatever I don't know what they do Jimmy nip-taker yeah Frank said he only knew mob guys because they had to deal with he had to deal with them because they own nightclubs and stuff what do you want I'm gonna play some of the non-mafia spots they got terrible
Starting point is 00:11:12 acoustics baby he did not mention the mobsters are constantly fighting over his attention and he was friends with Chicago boss Sam Giakana or that Joseph and Charles Fischetti gave him gifts all the time there's Fischetti's Italian Fischetti brothers what sort of gifts like fingers and nipples hey here's Bobby's head or that he sang at the wedding boss of Philly mob boss Angel Bruno's daughter or that the mob helped him get out of a contract in 1951 by putting a gun in Tommy Dorsey's mouth you know what yeah you know what he can he can do whatever I really feel like Frank can yeah he doesn't need this deal that's
Starting point is 00:11:57 fine let him do whatever let him play the field I've always wanted artists to meet yeah I'm done so surprisingly Frank won an Oscar for 1953's from here to maternity it was time for his comeback and with all this he did not like the press because they wrote about all this shit and his womanized columnist Dorothy kill Galen oh I don't have a picture of her well what you just showed us quite a picture what just happened there well we'll get there I mean I can't wait that is so much and I don't know what okay so she wrote about his lady adventures in the late 40s so Frank nicknamed her the chinless wonder so I should have a
Starting point is 00:12:43 picture they compared her to a chipmunk and you wanted to show us the image so we could all laugh at her and be like she is chip monkey didn't you yep you prick and one time he sent her a tombstone to her house hey wow hey it's just frankly Frank but it is a chipmunk so it's just two sticks at geno's on sunset strip he got into a fistfight with New York columnist Lee Mortimer and Mortimer said Frank had three heavies helping him the columnist had written articles connecting Frank and Lucky Luciano and the fight started when Frank called him a degenerate and then punched him that's a good way to
Starting point is 00:13:33 start a fight yeah that's a good that's a good inside classic kind of beginning yeah Frank was arrested and Frank said quote I saw red I hit him I'm all mixed up there you go fair in the end Frank had to write a public apology and pay a settlement wow right a public apology is such a weak saying I'm all mixed up is sort of the old-fashioned version of saying I'm having mental health issues yeah right yeah I can't I'm all mixed up right now everything is strange I saw red I didn't know what to do so I swung so I swung started swinging at the red and then I sent that chipmunk a tombstone I don't know what
Starting point is 00:14:12 was happening I was all confused anyway this is my apology anyway still he's Frank and a crowd of ten thousand mostly women greet him at the Sydney Airport screaming in 1955 now we're pretty close to Chatswood knocking on the door Frank gets off the plane he walked with his 14-year-old daughter Nancy into the airport as cameraman took their pictures and he paused now and then for screaming fans and then he went into a customs holding room sure where he did a 45-minute press conference okay and they asked him why he disliked the press and Frank said he didn't quote it's only a handful of them that I don't
Starting point is 00:14:55 get along with he then reached over and cocked the shut-over photographer who had forgotten to do so just to like help him out hey buddy he missed so he's playing trying to be like a nice guy to the press like I'm a sweetie he's had his rut I didn't see any red today yeah let's do this I'm not such a bad guy don't make me write another fucking letter to the public what's this guy doing up top it's the blow-dark guy I will get you so after the interview he and Nancy get into the cars and fans including an elderly woman climbed over the fence was she like a fan what she was trying to get to him sexually yes you want to
Starting point is 00:15:46 have the fuck the Frank fuck yeah Frank Frank fuckers yeah Frank fuckers okay you know okay she might have just wanted a ride you never know do you go to Chatswood how far is Chatswood mr. driver what's everyone screaming about this is how we used to get taxis oh dear so then they fly to Melbourne and in Melbourne another 10,000 people are waiting at the airport Jesus okay so but he doesn't have this draw on the states right now he's like no he does he does but it's like fucking nuts for right okay we don't get many people coming yeah right yeah no we were big fans of it yeah helps us a lot right it's all very
Starting point is 00:16:37 exciting for sure yeah no yeah no we had an old woman jump on our car when we were leaving the airport but that was my mom yeah it was crazy she's and she insisted we have you on and we listened yeah and she she is all mixed up when her body hit the mmm all we saw was red yeah when that body the body that body when that body hit the ground all I saw was red so in Melbourne the cheer when he exits the plane the age quote the cheers started cheers as he quickly walked down the gangway into the backseat of a closed hire car and drove off they put him people went from cheering to yelling quote is this mug too
Starting point is 00:17:26 proud to show himself wow the crowd slowly dispersed quote very disgruntled wow what do they expect they wanted a little a little like because he kind of did that in Sydney a little bit he did it all yeah he ignored it all right I did my bid I fucking talked to the press I talked to the other people in the other city that counts I'm done saying hi to Australians so he's totally avoiding the press in Melbourne and he later apologizes and said he had to go straight to rehearsal with his band sure and he was chased into the rehearsal like they literally chase him down wait from the airport but then it gets to
Starting point is 00:18:05 know cuz it yeah I mean it's like a 40 minute drive to Tullamarine Airport run the whole way so he later he's like I had to rehearse with the band I just had to get there so the two that tour is a huge success and he sets up new dates in 1957 on a return tour no Adelaide it's weird it's a super weird I don't get the audience is what's going on they enjoy the first half of the set list and then they die then I don't hear a peep I could hear those Australian pins dropping baby so in 1957 he is getting on board the Qantas flight in Honolulu to Sydney when he learns his musical director does not have a sleeping birth what is that what
Starting point is 00:19:01 do you think they're gonna have my baby in my sleep it's like a water birth but I'm passed out I choose a sleeping birth and Frank was really annoyed at that yeah he believes in that yeah you gotta be awake baby where I come from all babies happen in the air yeah that's how you get angels sky babies I'm only having sky kids he's a sky baby so I think it's just like a bunk kind of all right yeah sleeping sure okay so that's yeah I'm glad they got rid of that it's not a good name yeah like a gurney mm-hmm gurney's much better mm-hmm so the fact that his musical director's not a sleeping breath Frank just fucking lose this
Starting point is 00:19:57 is bullshit and he books flights back to LA for the entire crew and they offer him sleeping births on another plane but Frank is not having no too late he's done he just blows off the tour I'm not doing it she's got nowhere to sleep this is crazy we've got a bunch of sleeping births in here bullshit don't come crawling back with your sleeping births I said no if he needs them off you're back on his side he's getting disrespected that's true it really is he needs a guy with a gun yeah yeah so the tour doesn't happen and the Sydney morning Herald responds with an article titled quote hothead Sinatra the angry
Starting point is 00:20:38 voice wow and just rips him a new one the the article list all the fights he had been in all of his divorces his ugly run-ins with the press quote his reputation with women is that he drops his girlfriends like he drops contracts ooh so gently like onto a death yeah there you go I signed up for you yeah the age wrote quote some may feel that there have been too many of these American visiting entertainers stay out yeah you come in here you come in here you give me a gig I appreciate it yeah I can't stop talking like that I know it's a very hard I just want to sing everything so I'm trying to like the angry voice
Starting point is 00:21:28 okay some may feel that there have been too many of these American visiting entertainers importing a culture which can only flourish at the level of emotional violence and mindless hysteria wow I love how they're like everyone from America's Frank Sinatra I mean they all have mob connections they are right and really emotional violence and mindless hysteria he's never been a greater description of America I mean but not not all of them but they're just describing our culture not every person who's coming in they're describing our culture okay that's what our cult well I don't think that's fair at all not the
Starting point is 00:22:04 America I love would you say that you're hysterical about it I'm not not hysterical you seem emotional I'm seeing some red I'm seeing a little red I'll tell you what they didn't have a sky birth on our flight either now that I'm thinking about it I don't know why we made the goddamn trip you see a sky birth that's right I still I think we flew on a still birth no keep going keep going with this route I think I think it can end well I think so too I think we're finding it I think we're right near it so Frank has to pay 33 33 yeah 33,000 pounds for pulling out I know we shouldn't have gone for it but we did
Starting point is 00:22:49 and that's okay you know it's it felt strange to pull out usually I scream and do it in he returned for another tour in March 1959 and this time he had to leave a rented flat after the owner demanded the quote laricans leave wait what the owner of the flat he was staying and called him a larkin and told him to get out and what if there's a listener doesn't know what a larkin is do you want to tell them well they they have like a sort of like a mythical idea of what a larkin is like a larkin or like street youths who are like badass and doing stuff in reality they were gang members rapists and awful human beings
Starting point is 00:23:37 that are really hard to do a dollop on because you start reading a going wow there's a lot of rape going on I don't need the I don't need the I don't need they don't need the answer anymore they miss the stillbirth part that's where they're at so and a nobody got into it with a reporter quote miss quote me kid and you're dead with me in fact I'll suck you in the jaw I'll suck you or suck you yeah different I'll suck your jaw yeah get over here there was a graph of his happiness yeah I thought you're gonna suck me that's right I'll suck your jaw right off you've been Sinatra look at this guy I dislocated his jaw like a
Starting point is 00:24:23 boa constrictor suck them right in the job a big kiss yeah that's right so he comes back in 1961 so this time he else he holds an impromptu press conference he's very nice to the press but he leaves Melbourne completely off the tour that's I mean that's awesome yeah that's funny and he does I'm doing Adelaide three times motherfucker this is a direct slight come see me in Darwin he does four shows in Sydney now a couple years after this tour he completely stops talking to the press nice Frank always made his own problems and then he get mad at the press for reporting on it he married Mia Farrow oh wow I didn't
Starting point is 00:25:23 know that happened a child I mean how old I think she's 19 oh my god that's so fucking weird wow it's she oh wow and then she's like what do you know I know yeah she's like finally Woody yeah you're so balanced my last boyfriend was a bit of a creep he had not like me I'm gonna fuck your daughter don't worry I don't know I didn't know that was a thing first I've heard of it sir quite an accusation you're casting there so she's 30 years younger than him it only last two years for some reason thank God so for some reason when you're 50 and you marry a 20 year old that you don't have a lot to talk about yeah I wonder yeah they
Starting point is 00:26:11 they always like to say that they're an old soul though yeah you keep finding old souls in young 19 year old body I'm so lucky she's possessed by an old soul again but she ain't got that old soul body you know what I'm saying hey two three four old soul young body young body you're checking both my boxes lately now so he she didn't want to give up her career and he wanted her to give up you're done you're 20 quit what more do you have to do you done it all trust me there's nothing left you stay at home now you're working for me baby yeah he
Starting point is 00:26:57 wanted her to be a housewife you're a housewife quit you had a good run then he demanded she drop out of rosemary's baby come on it's crap nobody will remember that one three quarters of the way into filming they'll figure it out they can fix it in post give it up already I need some cookies less less rosemary's baby more rosemary lemon garlic yeah some time huh and make me a baby and thank you baby come on two three four I'm the child in the relationship when she wouldn't he ended up serving her divorce papers on the set of rosemary's baby there you go who's the baby now he signed with a crayon that's
Starting point is 00:27:48 right signed flanky at the sans casino in 1967 he had his credit cut off after he lost $200,000 I'm hot huh this fall at a weekend of verbally attacking the hotel management the workers and security and then after he got caught off he lost his shit and he flipped over a table wow and the VP of the sans hotel punched Frank in the face oh I'm gonna suck his jaw you know he's a relatable king I love him yeah yeah it's very validating if you cut him off though and you're like probably a good thing we did that seems like he's got a bit of a problem Frank got a bloody nose and lost two front teeth I lost all the money and my
Starting point is 00:28:32 two front teeth he was no longer in business with Caesar's Palace but he could record a Christmas album with the song all I want for Christmas is my two front teeth like that chipmunk in 1972 Frank left the Democratic Party and supported Richard Nixon our sexiest president thank you Frank he was put in charge of Nixon's inauguration oh he's saying a Nixon song what yes and I should did a song for Nixon's campaign it's like oh god Nixon now more than ever Nixon now more than ever more than ever we need Nixon now it's true I'm not I know very little but I know like once every like eight episodes I have a fact it's
Starting point is 00:29:23 also just like you've sung so many fake songs when a female Washington post reporter asked Frank about his mafia connections Frank complained loudly about quote the stench of Miss Cheshire and then stuffed two dollar bills in her drink and said quote you've been laying around you've been laying down for two dollars all your life oh my god putting two dollars at someone's drink is like fuck like that I don't I mean I what he said is horrible but that's just like this guy's like a murderer yeah there you go totally um there's your garnish he knows how to treat the ladies so papers across the country cover his
Starting point is 00:30:12 misogynist tantrum but Frank refuses to apologize to her I gave her two dollars what's everyone angry about haven't you ever had a rum and deuce it's also like I mean he's a misogynist but it's also like he treats everyone like shit yeah like it feels like it's not purely it's like he target like he's gonna whatever a vulnerability is you're a lady you don't deserve to be here yes like whoever's in front of him that's who he means yeah and that's why we have to respect him absolutely that's why he's a great American classic American he refused to stop he refused to apologize to her and keeps talking about it on
Starting point is 00:30:50 stage during shows this lady she freaked out when I put money in a cocktail but saying he overpaid her I overpaid her I should have given her a dollar wow what a weirdo and now he also imagine like owning that moment you know what I mean like it'd be like you want to forget about that but he's like bringing it up on stage I put two dollars in this lady's drink and she freaked out what's with you people he's making up for the wage gap that's right that's actually a feminist guy that's why we have a lady on the show yeah these insights that we as two guys aren't gonna make it's true that's the
Starting point is 00:31:39 only reason if I had two dollars I'd put it in your beer and I would put a dollar in he also the godfather has been written and they're gonna be turning into a movie and he wants to be in the godfather but he at the same time hates Mario Puzo the author for putting we got to kick him off the project he can't have written this thing for putting the lounge singer character Johnny Fontaine in the book oh yeah okay right which people which people all assume is based on Snotch right yeah and when Puzo and Frank are introduced at a restaurant Frank says I don't want to meet him that makes an introduction kind of shitty
Starting point is 00:32:25 I'm in the process of meeting you I don't want to meet him my hands out I'm not interested in meeting that guy I'm passing Puzo stand behind him and Frank sit at a table and then Puzo says I didn't want to meet I didn't want to meet you in the first place behind him and then Frank loses his shit you didn't want to meet me I don't want to be drew your piece of shit give me a drink I'm putting a meatball in it you're gonna meet me you son of a bitch whether you like it or not and then he called Puzo a pimp and starts threatening to beat the shit out of him I'll kill you and the whole time he never looks up from his
Starting point is 00:33:01 plate oh wow that is I mean this is like some psychotic shit yeah Puzo said quote I remember him saying if it wasn't that I was so much older than he he would beat the hell out of me Frank was older too oh my god that's a great burn that is great you're too old for me to beat up you're older than me get out of here I don't want to meet you fuck is with this guy someone put money in his drink so I'm 25 I'm older than me a feral by a year so his things are not going well for Frank and he needs money and so he decides to return to Australia nice and he hasn't been here in 13 hey Melbourne
Starting point is 00:33:46 five shows baby I forgive you baby who loves you it's 1974 it's part of his 70 Sinatra is real weird-looking yeah the Australian press is very excited the tour sells out immediately two shows in Melbourne three in Sydney I love that he went back to Maui he's like money baby I need money and drink money I lost two million dollars with drink tipping every lady I saw every lady I saw got to sir don't help so Frank stops first the tour goes to Japan and the morning hell wrote that he couldn't make a helicopter in Japan because of weather so he hopped on board a quote grimy electric commuter train that didn't even have a first
Starting point is 00:34:41 class section the paper described every single thing he was doing all the way down to eating a pre-show boat of Minestrone soup oh what a weird show hey can I just have a hot bowl of soup yeah I'll be out there in five minutes just let me finish my soup whoa that's right nothing like broth and beans before old blue eyes does a show let's party put my dye dye on and I'll go out there hopefully I only wanted it on stage tonight that's right died I means diaper my nappy baby two three four I'm just wanting don't worry about two the morning hell writes quote a white roll Rolls Royce a luxury yacht and
Starting point is 00:35:45 security tighter than for a royal tour are just some of the comforts waiting for Frank Sinatra when he arrives in Sydney nice so the promoter that's Robert Raymond he says he says Frank is not gonna talk to the press no interviews no press conference he has not given an interview at this point in 12 years oh wow so he's totally shut out the press he's fucking this guy's awesome he now absolutely hates the scandals nature of the press they're always discussing who he's having sex with his mob connections and Becky's put like the stuff he's doing he's like that's bullshit you don't know about the backstage soup stuff
Starting point is 00:36:27 you never read about that it's all the better way because whacked so sorry so this guy is um this is a Sydney promoter yeah yeah yeah I mean of course yeah I'm sorry so Ramis promised that Frank would quote at least smile at the press I've got him to agree to a smile but he has been told by his publicity person quote whatever you do you have to make sure he talks to the press because she knew if Frank didn't the Australian press would treat him as hostile right yeah but then if you haven't talked to the press he's gonna be hostile kind of tough either way honestly a little bit so he flies into Sydney on a private jet
Starting point is 00:37:15 on July 1st 1974 yeah the age reported he did not smile upon landing at the airport quote Sydney turned on a bright sun shining day for Frank's not just arrival but the best the famous singer could manage in reply was a scowl nice he didn't talk to anyone got straight into his Rolls Royce and drove off with six limos following carrying the rest of his entourage wow that is a lot it's probably just cocaine for that promoter who's riding in the other cars I don't worry Frank so Australian press is not about to take Frank's immediate rejection they chased him in their cars wherever I like how they're like he
Starting point is 00:37:56 doesn't like us let's harass the fuck out of him in 1974 the Boulevard was the only world-class hotel in Sydney and when they arrived there the press is everywhere so he has to duck through a laundry entrance in the back he but buys out the entire 23rd floor so no one can get off the elevator on it he wanted a kitchen hey how did this guy go broke he wanted a kitchen is in his hotel room so the hotel had one installed I like pasta that's right what about a hot plate I like pasta built a kitchen yeah I mean that is a bold rider this is Frank Santaraj there's person about a five musicians Barbara Marx the ex-wife
Starting point is 00:38:51 of Zepo wow his soon-to-be fourth wife wow lifelong friend and personal bar to guard Gilly or Rizzo Lane shotgun Britain was also with them Britain was 70 balding cigar smoking and he had a red satin jacket with shotgun on the back hey I'm a fucking idiot I'm America the person and also Milton Mickey Rudin Frank's lawyer and manager when the afternoon he's so tired because I have to do all his wedding contracts I just finished this one I'm married a different broad oh my god Frank my hand is killing me when the afternoon papers arrived on page three was a story about Frank's mafia connections and photos of
Starting point is 00:39:43 the women he'd had a relationships with under the headline Sinatra's moles malls malls malls and what it that's just like broads yeah like his side piece sort of like how you're casually saying broads in your own voice but mall is kind of like like it's you know it's like all your maul like adventure a bit dirty oh so they're like his dirty women they're a little dirty things to live in the ground that you fuck yeah you've never you've never seen one on your travels people keep telling me to go over near like they'll be like go over that hole in the park and wait Richard come out and just fuck it but I don't
Starting point is 00:40:22 really get like I think you're mixing I think you're mixing I don't think it's the same it's not it's like all your maul it's like a woman that's like out and she wants to fuck and like so loose woman yeah loose woman yeah that's kind yeah all right all right you know yeah it's it's derogatory but it's been reclaimed okay I would I would say yeah yeah like I am all yeah depends what circles you run in I guess so either way malls have dirty holes yeah okay yeah and their pussies are gross too oh shit I could I could tell that one was you're like I'm gonna do it I hesitate
Starting point is 00:41:21 for a second so after this story comes out Frank is fucking livid reporters keep trying to get on the 23rd floor but he has security kicking him off he stays in the hotel for two days and the press is just writing negative stories because he won't fucking talk to them so they're filling the void with just garbage yeah it does seem like it would like he could talk to them and that would help he could have done a press conference right or just like one interview and then you know yeah so Frank heads for a mascot airport on day three and the press chases him down the highway it turns into a high-speed car chase all the way to
Starting point is 00:42:03 the airport I like to picture the old woman still on the car so the plan is to land in Melbourne go straight to the festival theater and rehearse now journalist gail Jarvis who is working for current affairs she knew she'd have no access so she said quote we were looking for ways to come up with stories about Sinatra to satisfy the viewing public which that's not yeah that is not like yeah that's not journalism that's not what the viewing the viewing public is not like how many people is he fucked today well yeah so she and her crew come up with a plan and they get the driver of Frank's car on board so gail
Starting point is 00:42:49 gets a car that is exactly the same as the car in Frank's entourage this is crazy and she puts on a fur coat and a big pair of sunglasses and puffs out her hair to look like Frank's girlfriend I'm your wife I thought so get over here baby all right how long we've been together exactly I love you whatever your name is come here you how about a jaw suck and and so they wait outside the gates of the airport and when Frank's car goes by the driver gives them a signal and then they slip right in behind Frank's car so they drive 160 kilometers per hour as reporters are fucking following me entourage and
Starting point is 00:43:37 gail and her crew are inside the police escort and and both cars want to turn when they get near the theater and gail makes it into a private lot but then Frank's driver gets confused because her car goes in first a weird move power moves ends up stopping in the front of the theater okay wow and Frank's like fucking live it I don't go to the front what are you doing right and he so he has to get out of his car and sprint up a footpath sprint like two miles and he was like Frank you ain't moved I'm hustling baby then minister he got whoo oh my heartburn it's coming up the wrong pipe so he gets into into the
Starting point is 00:44:28 theater finally and but he's just fucking pissed uh-huh and after Frank Sinatra yeah after rehearsal a new color for him there's another chase to the hotel uh-huh Raymond quote at the front of the hotel lots of cameras and press people all wart all waiting sort of like piranha gail said it wasn't as bad as what you see from paparazzi today nice cool she's like we just started this we weren't there at the end so hotel security keeps the press out of the lobby and Frank security keeps him off his floor so the media are outside waiting for Frank who's gonna go to a show soon mm-hmm and then he comes out and is
Starting point is 00:45:13 shoving and pushing between reporters and his press is security guys and reporter says Jillie starts punching photographers Jillie's she's got the wig we know the guy bodyguard okay all the two-eyed yep right okay why are the two-eyed guy we know Jillie he's got both eyes old two eyes Frank's men say okay Frank's men say they're being punched by reporters one reporter has cuts to her face so they get to festival hall and the show goes on it must now Frank always did a little monologue oh god after the first two songs yeah we've been having a marvelous time being chased around the country for the three days
Starting point is 00:46:07 we have a name in the states for their counterparts they called parasites because they take and take and take and never give absolutely never give I don't care what you think about anybody press in the world I say they're bums and they're always gonna be bums every one of them it's the scandal man that really bugs you drive you crazy it's two-bit type work that they do they're pimps they're just crazy you know and the hookers the broads who work in the press are the hookers of the press need I explain that to you I might off from a buck and a half I'm not sure I once gave a chicken
Starting point is 00:46:52 Washington $2 and I overpaid her I found out if it stopped when I was 17 so that wow I mean that like vamp like for vamping you're like this guy's got some there were two songs in these fucking parasites let me tell you about these pieces of shit and then I'll do the rest of the songs but these people are fucking clown garbage and the whores unbelievable about the fucking whores anyway anyway hit it boys lady luck wow now it's just not that would not be I like other lack they're long camp uncomfortably laughing they're like super Trumpy like with the like he
Starting point is 00:47:51 continues to bring up stuff it's just like just let it go I gave a $2 and I overpaid her yeah it's like when you said something funny and then you go back to it yeah right yeah to him he's like I got this down I got Minestrone's strength I'm in a strong so now the press is really mad why and after the show the furious press is writing for him outside the hotel and they want answers for his comments well yeah we understand your role we want to know what you meant I told you I'm not talking to you well now you have something to answer to that's not how this works now we have real questions so Frank goes around a side
Starting point is 00:48:37 entrance where a couple of camera men are waiting and Frank's security jumps out puts one into a headlock another security guide tried to rip the camera out of a guy's hands one cameraman said he could hardly breathe in the headlock they're like how did you see both of us coming yeah get the lights going they're really good I don't know what they had it they've done their homework Julie you blew it Jillie's the best I told you I could spot two of them no problem there's the one over there and then that guy too the fight ends up leaving both camera with cuts and bruises on their faces one of Frank's
Starting point is 00:49:11 bodyguard reportedly wrapped an electric cord around a cameraman's throat and warned quote things are gonna get physical what yeah that's not that's the wrong order that's the wrong order you don't shoot a guy and be like I'm gonna kill you but Julie did I do that right you did great the only note is the threat comes before the act all right yeah you don't choke him and then let him know you're gonna choke him right right okay it's cool he's dead but we'll figure it out so it's July 10th and the papers really go hard after friend now no one actually knows what he said we this this what I played we they found
Starting point is 00:49:53 later all right so they just now you can imagine what the press is writing right because they're taking what he said and blowing it up he said some shit we didn't say good stuff yeah they're I'm sure they're making it right so papers go nuts in the morning now Australia is offended and finally we found the line in Australia times have changed a bit and Frank hasn't so women are going to university they're getting professional jobs are working in public life they're challenging the sexist social attitudes they're doing what we call meal feraling and I don't love it baby they're demanding abortion and shit child care
Starting point is 00:50:41 equal all his bullshit have a skyburn what's wrong with you come on enough's enough keep it you gotta keep it that's the way it is it's part of God's plan you keep it partial bull the cord a right so he's like a fucking Nixon guy right and so people are just not happy with these comments the Victorian police said Frank's bodyguards had no right whatsoever to punch and attack the security what a crazy thing to say now Union Union men from the Australian Journalist Association Rick Hill said quote this is just not done in Australia the mafia might be able to do it in the United States but it
Starting point is 00:51:30 certainly doesn't happen in Australia we just won't tolerate it happening to them and that's the end of it's amazing that America's like he's Frank Sinatra so you can let him do it yeah I gotta say I'm kind of like the press does suck you know you're annoying and they're being they're handing him yeah I mean yeah I'm kind of on I mean I'm not on his side with other stuff they wrap the electrical cord around the camera yeah it's I don't know if we found the hero just yet I think now we have a hero because the unions oh put a black ban on Frank so a black ban is when a union puts out a decree that no one
Starting point is 00:52:24 going will go near a job or a person and in this case that's Frank so the Australian theatrical and amusement employees Association announced their employees would refuse to provide lighting staging and backing musicians on his tour wow and the waiters union cut off Frank's room service what Papa needs his soup what the hell are they talking about no unionist in the country would do anything for Frank Sinatra fucking amazing oh man it had never been done to a person before that's how bad he is like seriously we are banning you what and the unions all they asked for was an apology so unionism at this time is on
Starting point is 00:53:25 which is an easy thing for Frank to do very he's done it before he has done it before he did it to the it's very easy for him yes he loves apologies absolutely I'm sorry you should go fuck yourself I'm sorry you're a bunch of idiots now come on give me that soup I'm sorry that your neck was hurt when I've wrapped the cord around like I'm sorry you're allergic to electrical cords who knew sometimes I just count and there's no this one's called 234 234 234 five is next take that cord around you next so unionism is having a big upswing there was a general strike in 1969 that led to rebound and union memberships women
Starting point is 00:54:24 became a part of it or joining unions about half the workers earning union so when they want to shut something down they can't and so no one's gonna say I think we got rid of those yeah no one's gonna service his room no one's gonna work the lifts the hotel no food I gotta take the stairs you've seen the suits I wear you've seen this soups and my suits suits and suits suits and soups soup and stairs equals diarrhea I wrote a song do you guys like it soup and stairs equals diarrhea it's about this afternoon and he couldn't fuel his plane well that's a bit of an issue oh no car would take him anywhere oh my god
Starting point is 00:55:25 this is amazing promoter Reynolds quote we were trapped everybody was worried where this is leading to and what was gonna happen next Frank's gonna kill you all so sorry just one quick thing there's a comedy club in Kings Cross it's run by this I guess I shouldn't say it on stage but sure the guy has drug and alcohol issues but he's a real character and it's his tiny tiny little bar hold on yeah a guy with drug issues is a character yeah is that the guy from earlier I mean it sucks when someone has drug and alcohol addiction and they're boring don't see enough of that he does my taxes but it's a tiny little bar and
Starting point is 00:56:14 it's a great little club you go down these stairs and probably only six seats about 50 people and when all the unions and no one would let him perform this was like on his trip he performed in this Kings Cross venue this tiny little venue yeah like this one guy let him play so he played like a bunch of shows in Sydney illegally or not illegally but like these little kind of off-broadway shows right in this 50 seater wow which is pretty cool yeah you know it would have been cool to catch Sinatra in a 50 seater yeah come on don't pretend you suddenly saw you know he's fucking he's great oh yeah he's a great singer okay
Starting point is 00:56:54 his later stuff they all hate Sinatra suddenly yeah no you're canceling him that'll hurt him so Frank isn't just stuck in the hotel he can't leave the country right so he's just his remaining concerts are cancelled wow and now his fans are pissed and the Australian Journalist Association put together a proposal that he apologized for statements and personally apologized to the cameraman who quote were taken on by his bullies last night the transport workers union came out and told reporters they were supporting the reporters union and if Frank's apology work for them then everyone could move on man that is so
Starting point is 00:57:34 fucking great because the bigger it builds up less you want to say sorry yeah I would say for him to like I'll show him I don't need anyone like it would just carry me on your back sorry Frank I actually joined a union too what yeah the bodyguard join you yeah they have me paperwork the fuck are you talking about he joined two unions take I want for wall eyes and one for body guards but nobody tells Frank Sinatra no this is not like they have well he can't his yeah can't fucking handle his hotel he's just like the fuck what do you mean I can't get food I want to go home what do you mean I can't go home I
Starting point is 00:58:20 want to go walking what do you mean I can't go walking oh my god who can I smack about nobody Frank the slapping unions is also against you the fuck I'm gonna kill someone you probably can't the cops is against you too oh my god tell me that I still got big soup Frank they ain't gonna make you no more soap need a I'm gonna stop out here gilly so Frank tells his lawyer quote get Hank on the phone give me hankie he was of course talking about Hank Sinatra Henry Kissinger shut the fuck up thank what's going on baby you're gonna bomb Australia Henry okay how do you need it when do you want to buy let me talk to
Starting point is 00:59:14 Nixon crazy he's not doing great it's not my old buddy Frank so he calls the Secretary of State of United States maybe the worst human being alive who so they get Kissinger on the phone and they explained to him the situation that sounds crazy Frankie and he's like yeah I mean he doesn't give many he's not like I don't know what I can do really we've already ruined a bunch of other places people are fucking pissed but so then Frank is team start talking about getting Jimmy Hoffa involved oh my god who's shittier than Kissinger unbelievable and what and he's is he trying to just go home no he well he wants revenge he wants
Starting point is 01:00:13 oh boy Hoffa to black band Qantas in other in the states so he's calling for an airline to be banned because of all the people banning him yeah this might sound like a big favor but we got to be done with Qantas domestically sorry what's going on Frank I don't know we got to figure something out I can't get soup Jimmy you understand they won't give me soup I can't walk I'm taking the stairs we got to stop Qantas from traveling 234 fuck this shit fuck this shit 234 he also wanted to ask Hoffa to get US truck drivers to refuse to handle any Australian goods exported to the United States look I'm just I'm begging you for
Starting point is 01:01:10 an embargo okay nothing big I'm saying fuck the digery do all right we're done it's a digery don't baby 234 shut them all down come on what else are they sent to us look if you say no I gotta call Hitler and he's dead come on baby they hate pricks here for some reason they discussed calling the admiral of a US aircraft carrier in Japan to ask for a helicopter a military helicopter to come pick him up from the roof of the hotel I mean I mean he did covers mostly yeah I mean he's like just say you're fucking sorry look I fucked up sorry I've had ex-boyfriends who've been even worse and apologize I mean when I was younger I was pretty much
Starting point is 01:02:09 like this union leaders then meet with Frank's tour manager to discuss oh good that'll go well an apology discuss an apology we need to record an apology but the union leaders were told they had to apologize to Frank I don't think you've been listening to our demands Frank's willing to negotiate with you you apologize and then he'll stop being angry to bullshit no Australia doesn't have a great history with apologies you know so it's amazing what they're doing with this anyway but the hypocrisy and that's what I'm angry at you know yeah it is amazing for an American to be demanding an apology from an Australian just like
Starting point is 01:03:11 we also not big it's actually amazing for us to be demanding I mean it's pretty classic the Native Americans got to say sorry to us come on baby they were rude when we took everything enough's enough we give and we take and take and take but it's just I mean you know not to get serious but it does show you the way the press whips us up into these things to do with their own you know there's all these awful things happening and they're like oh this is the one thing we care about or whatever you created all of this right suddenly care yeah whatever yeah yeah just say Ukraine Frank so Frank's like Frank says
Starting point is 01:04:01 he's never apologized in his life he's not gonna start now what a crazy what a crazy fucking thing that's not what I do I'm allergic to sorry the PR manager COVID the PR manager of the hotel is friends with Tony Whitlam son of Labor Minister Goff Whitlam so Tony Whitlam agrees to intervene on Frank's behalf but then the PM called and said only Bob Hawke could get the band lifted then get me the AM Bob Hawke he was also a woman abuser but anyway people don't want to acknowledge that well any any any work well well yeah he did have a little bit of a friendly relationship with the CIA anyway so he's
Starting point is 01:04:59 the president of the Atlantic Council of Trading Unions and would go on to become Prime Minister in 1983 feminists hated Bob because once on a TV show he felt the shoulder of a feminist to see if she was wearing a bra oh my god by the way feeling the she like there yes nothing you might if I get involved right yeah what I know what you're saying is you reach around yeah but I was fine I think you're okay yeah it's fine I don't want to talk about it it was weird when you found out I was for my back yeah my back hurts yeah it makes sense thank you when you described it it made sense yeah thank you yeah because you're
Starting point is 01:05:48 like it had to be lacy feel about well yeah medically speaking I need a lacy yes lacy Garmin yeah thank you and when you described it yes and the rest yes of course just makes me feel comfy yeah what's up dude you good and pretty I'm just listening okay taking in so anyway the cool guy put your pocket a cool guy felt the woman's shoulder to see if she had a bra yeah right a lot of people said hawk was the second most powerful man in Australia because he was president of the unions and he believed there was more he believed there was support from the Australian people for the stance that had been taken against Frank Australia is
Starting point is 01:06:25 pretty conservative from a social standpoint and an American singer calling women journalists whores and then having his bodyguards attacking the press didn't really go over well hmm hawk quote that's not the Australian way of doing things I mean it is but you know let's pretend like it's not though the media was getting death threats at this point from Sinatra's fans Jesus one man called Chenanine and said if they went to festival hall that night they'd quote hear a big bang like the drums yeah that's pretty wow for his part Frank but out of press release requesting an apology from the press what is it why
Starting point is 01:07:09 he's he like it's not only that he can't apologize he's doing that thing where he's doubling down yeah and like it's not being very effective but he's still like I will die here yeah I'm out of my fucking mind this is called the hill I die on two three four he said in the letter that he'd gotten from reporters quote 15 years of shit but not these reporters yeah like you don't just get to paint a broad brush you will a lot of reporters are shit it's just some art he's a drama he's a drama he created himself yeah I mean it is just like I get do a fucking interview yeah you don't want to get things back on track but
Starting point is 01:07:55 as an entertainer you gotta gotta fucking do that stupid thing no but it's that he's like can we get a military helicopter to get me out of the hotel kissing you won't return my calls let's do both come on we're blowing parts up baby how about Adelaide trust me it's fine no one will know if we didn't have Adelaide we wouldn't have the murder podcast that we have okay that's true we need Adelaide that is fair that is all my two crime heads yeah I take a vacation they're once a year to kill sorry but now if they realized and they talked to the pilot or whatever and they realized they had enough fuel in his
Starting point is 01:08:40 jet to get to see my god okay so he's like finally we got an escape route to stop all this Australian bullshit we're gonna go to Sydney Australia that'll show them all right Frank Sidney's also in Australia son of a bitch two three four so they leave the Southern Cross Hotel and head for the Melbourne Airport it's my favorite thing let's go let's just live in the air for a while the torpor motor and through the torpor motor yeah oh yeah that guy's like man I just wanted some cocaine money so he the torpor motor through the torpor motor he sets up and for Bob Hawk to have a meeting with Frank at the airport to
Starting point is 01:09:44 finally have some sort of discussion okay and such a it's so much drama when Hawk arrives Frank has already I flew here oh Frank has already gotten on his plane and is ready to take off against air air controllers orders air controller the air control saying do not fly another union against me now we're actually not that's not what we're doing nice try nobody says no to old blue eyes now let's get in the sky a plane is coming in fuck it Sammy Davis Jr. said the same thing tell him to get out of the sky Frank said he's not waiting anymore and orders the plane to take off and the
Starting point is 01:10:28 plane takes off that's not how it works mr. Sinatra you're clear for takeoff so now he's upset Bob Hawk the press describes it as a snub and said Frank left in a huff me never but Hawk also knows Frank isn't going anywhere because no one in Sydney is gonna refuel his plane once it gets there yeah he I mean this is the there's no plan he's just like none he's kind of trying to save some face but I mean it's just he's like maybe it's better in Sydney they're richer they're right tell me they don't have Australians in that other Australian city so Hawk just calmly books a flight to Sydney and flies to
Starting point is 01:11:14 Sydney now at this point it's international news and reporters are flying in from all over the world I mean again just fucking say you're sorry now international press my war against the press is going real well there's more of them good move Frankie he's gone on for so long I just want him to keep going now absolutely it's frustrating but yeah I definitely want the numbers to keep I hope he never says sorry I hope it has with them like an anti Sinatra paper like finally we got him right where we want him we found the guy who let me get on his back while he tries to swim home ah guess who didn't say sorry suckers
Starting point is 01:12:03 it's it's the loft on the top of Frank's Sydney hotel is packed with hundreds of journalists it's front page news across the world picket lines start forming around the hotel of people supporting Frank holding signs that say please don't apologize you are right it's just like Frank please please don't apologize don't worry you call them whores what else could it be that's that's what Twitter used to be that is so fucking true it is these are like the yeah tweets in the air favorite baby retweet he just throws him in a journey boom there you go have a noodle so Frank refuses he's not gonna be with
Starting point is 01:12:58 the press he sends his attorney out Mickey Rudin to talk to the media at a huge press conference okay wow so at the press conference Mickey continues to say Frank would not apologize and he had nothing to apologize Frank has done nothing wrong the problem Australians just don't know how Frank is that's the problem when a reporter asked him that Frank wouldn't apologize under any circumstances Mickey said quote for what what did he do besides create an international incident what's the problem now no one had actually heard what Frank had said so right so it's still kind of hearsay yeah right just the
Starting point is 01:13:40 people at the show and then of course they embellish and because they just heard it on a whim it didn't probably think about it right he's just riffing with this fun terms so radio stations start asking are there any bootleggers out there with recordings in the show oh my god but instead of going to the radio the bootleggers go to the hotel and offer the tapes to Frank wow yeah for their fans yeah like Frank you shouldn't apologize you're right here the terrible things you said yes you're a hundred percent right imagine if the press got a hold of this what a nightmare don't not apologize you're
Starting point is 01:14:19 totally right well so Mickey reads a transcript which again is calling female reporters hookers and that nothing I mean as far as Frank goes this is pretty vanilla I've heard this one before this is one of the lighter ones he must have been in a good mood he probably just had that soup grin he was high on metastromia again so the press conference ends up changing absolutely nothing the unions are not backing down and Bob hawk is more upset by Frank's goons attacking the press than what was said okay so but he still doesn't know fully what was said no well now that they have the transcript okay kind of no
Starting point is 01:15:09 okay at some point Frank and his team most have realized that hawk is the only guy that can get him out of this hawk said quote or Frank but they're like that's not gonna happen all right I'll give it a shot I'm swore yeah yeah I mean he is he's like that sees like Fonzie yeah yeah yeah yeah I'm sorry you're bullshit I can't they read a point where they started to realize they had a bit of a problem finally so he makes it clear to Frank's people that it could be resolved through negotiation so meeting is set up to apologize and hawk goes to the presidential suite so there he's in the hotel mob by prayer it's a
Starting point is 01:16:02 fucking guy said something on stage yeah and he won't apologize like the whole fucking world is like what's going on Qantas will still be flying to America Frank will not apologize and we just bombed Vietnam has been bombed that's right Frank this one is in your own so meeting is set up and he goes to the presidential suite right so Sinatra does not come out to meet Hawke this guy is unbelievable I mean it's got to be like a Psyop I reckon it's got to be some kind of CIA Psyop I mean it's crazy would they create creating a distraction well something like honestly something else bigger in the world was
Starting point is 01:16:41 happening right back and looked at it right yeah like a bunch of money was laundered through banks or something it's weird that his relationships never worked out he seems like he's pretty easy to get along with so in his suite he doesn't come out and he has Mickey negotiating in the in the front room Hawke quote it was US attorney talk pretty brash he was not in a very positive mood Frank no the attorney oh well yeah why he's so tired yeah I was tired man Mickey told Hawk he couldn't stop them from leaving the country and Hawk told him that there's only been one case of a man walking on water and unless Frank was
Starting point is 01:17:25 going to be the second he didn't see he was going to get out oh man Hawk quote you're not getting out of on a ship you're not getting out on an airplane so I believe you're here until this is Dr. Suzy it's just how the paddle board was invented he didn't say anything about a submarine did he there's a move or a rocket fly me to the moon so while this negotiation is going on I can't get over there are a shitload of union delegates having a party in a royal suite quote we had a bunch of beer and champagne and scotch and whatever they wanted chicken sandwiches they were having a they were getting pretty
Starting point is 01:18:35 merry but there was one thing missing that would be great so Frank finally comes out of a back room hi okay I said some stuff I said some stuff I think in a way it was good because we both got to tell our truths never say die so he tells him he never had trouble with the union before because I have mob you don't have a mob here that I'm able to connect with you have a mob union who should I go true he told him that we really wasn't the point and brought up that Frank's bodyguards had beaten up the press quote you might be able to get away with it in the United States but you're not gonna get away with it here that's why
Starting point is 01:19:38 it's the best country on earth and then Hawks said he then went and had a natter but it's not really like common like you wouldn't really say that okay it's not like the moles thing it's different so he had a natter with one of his guys Bob as a matter and when he came back back Frank asked him what he wanted and what would y'all is not doing about you're not gonna fucking believe this but we'd still want an apology for what I honestly can't remember now like I still had a terrible rant that yeah so Hawk gives Frank a couple of suggestions of how to apologize how do you even say sorry I feel like I've
Starting point is 01:20:30 said it already and then Hawk went and wrote one out for Frank like a fucking would with a five-year-old go tell Jimmy that you didn't need to slap him I shouldn't have done what I didn't say it like you mean it look him in the eyes I said I didn't you know you know a lot of times I get upset my dad was a very tough father and sometimes a you know say some bullshit you know here we are 234 so Frank agrees he reads it and he agrees and they shake hands and then Mickey goes down to the press and reads the statement so so he writes it and Frank just agrees that he would sign off on and then Mickey reads it make you
Starting point is 01:21:35 read make you guys down to read it doesn't make it Frank just in his room like that was pretty hard I think I showed a lot of growth back there that was mighty bigamy to say that that guy could apologize on my behalf with the thing he wrote the good news is we can go back to America soon because of my growth Frank Sinatra did not intend any general reflection upon the moral character of working members of the Australian media Frank Sinatra also expresses his regret for any physical injury suffered by persons as a result of attempts to assure his personal safety may he have a soup can we get some
Starting point is 01:22:16 fucking soup up here yeah and the black band was lifted wow yeah I wish it went on forever the black band was lifted but then he saw wow I wish it was still going on Freddy was still here just like a skeleton in a hotel room Frank please I wonder what that flat home was like at the end of the day it was all pretty much worth it huh they're like yeah I just I wish I'd see my family this year he's like oh to a life yeah yeah I am guest nice to have fuel in the jet again though huh that's pretty cool you're welcome everybody what happens on tour stays on the roads crazy now let's have some champagne and soup Frank was
Starting point is 01:23:14 free to do his shows except for the Melbourne show which he'd been met had already been missed the next night he got on stage at Sydney's hodern Pavilion and said quote what a bunch of coconuts we've had this week he's leaning it up he's like a drunk guy yeah I like a drunk guy but his first show back in the US in Lake Tahoe he started by saying quote I would like to apologize to the Madonna's of the evening for comparing some Australian reporters to them in New York he said quote a funny thing happened in Australia I made a mistake and got off the plane man I wish they could like just get him
Starting point is 01:23:52 back I wish they could just extradite him no come on you took your apology back Frank no come on that's right you're back at the presidential suite please I was kidding to a tree fall in 1985 he would host oh here we go Reagan's inaugural Gallera and who is he again who's the man hello howdy-duty president Nancy Reagan at one point he snarled at a female reporter quote you're dead you're all dead every one of you a camera recorded it and it was broadcast on every news channel the next night learn just shut the fuck up just shut up you old weird man why can't I kill women I mean honestly one two three
Starting point is 01:24:44 sounds like you've got a case of the Australia's Frank came back to Australia the tour in 1988 did in his tour of Australia 88 he held a press conference and had his photo taken with all the reporters wow and he seemed to have mellowed well it was different ones but they were all like oh he was great this time he was like mellowed right he should have done like a funny camera like shoot with the guy who he put the cord around don't make me kill you again it's great to be back baby what are they so upset about it Frank you killed the man in an alley relax that's what we do in the States
Starting point is 01:25:31 get over it I'll pay the funeral expenses what's show time I mean 88 so we're talking a long time yeah we're talking a while and he's definitely in it you probably forgot he did it yeah he's like was I there I've told so many women their whole huh who was he married to an 88 he was still married to the same same woman he mariled he married Mark Zippo marks right okay okay that's good what lucky her oh yeah what an honor yeah I don't need apologies and Frank doesn't give him so it works pretty well sources the city Morning Herald the age UPI cheat cheat complex.com Jacobin and SMH I guess that's a
Starting point is 01:26:22 city Morning Herald right the same people who set out to harm him yeah the very slandering the beautiful man and then it's I forgot it's such a shame you know he has got such a great voice and he has you know he's always playing during Christmas like yeah shame he was such a crazy guy but crazy guy he was fun no it is weird because it's like you know like there are there are like the rat pack in general like those guys are like Dean Martin these are guys who are like abysmal people but because they kind of died before people kind of woke up to the fact that human behavior and careers could sort of be examined in the same
Starting point is 01:27:05 at the same time yeah they like get away with it but it's like they are I mean that's kind of a gift like in a way take their art and like put it through the prism of how we feel yeah and like I do like Frank Sinatra's music yeah obviously bad guy but I can still have it but you know I don't I don't agree with what he did and I think a lot of people don't like what you're saying it's time to apologize I mean and I feel bad for you know the cameraman what happened to him that was awful but he was a really bad cameraman I've seen some of his work oh yeah no apparently after that night he couldn't hold the camera I don't know
Starting point is 01:27:43 what his deal was he's all zoomed in yeah on ghillie's eye yeah he always kept his other eye open for some reason he was like I don't I don't like to shut either eye now also the another source the siege of Sinatra which was for a maybe see oh like the siege of Sinatra yeah what a shit what I mean it I wish unions would do that all the time you gotta fucking apologize you're not gonna eat yeah it does just show you like the power I mean even though the cause is so absurd yeah the power of unions like a general strike you couldn't you can't get a general strike in the States over what's going on there and let and there was a strike
Starting point is 01:28:24 here over Frank Sinatra being a fucking asshole like the country shut his ass down yeah which is amazing but then it also shows just to end up but the power of like journalism and like they in like they they create an industry of like outrage and yeah oh yeah that's such that sucks well and also we're not in our country but in your country yeah ours is fine but it's true like to that point like if you actually like you know around the 80s you kind of stopped at least in America you kind of stopped having actual journalists yeah and so they used to report on causes and things that were actually happening and now they just
Starting point is 01:29:04 don't anymore now they just report on dumb shit so it makes people think it's important yeah but if they were to actually report on like you know climate change climate change Amazon like the you know actually give you like straight information people would be fucking furious climate change needs a guy like a violent guy yeah to be you would be a perfect ambassador to my kids 18 you need a you need a cord yeah he's got a cord don't worry he's ready to go oh I can't wait to say what happens backstage after the soup right after his big we're gonna get high on soup with each other with a
Starting point is 01:29:54 cord for climate change yeah the message is pretty clear thank you everybody for coming out give it up for Becky Lucas appreciate it thank you so much total 3-4

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