The Dollop with Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds - 558 - The Ty Cobb Strike

Episode Date: November 8, 2022

Comedians Dave Anthony and Gareth Reynolds examine the one day Ty Cobb strike Sources Tour Dates Redbubble Merch   Mindbloom...

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Starting point is 00:00:47 is this? This is an American History podcast where each week I Dave Anthony lover of. You haven't done these at any of the live ones we've just done. Well because you get so hostile. I love it. No you get very hostile. I love it. There's eye-rolling and and just a general bad vibe. I'm playing my part. The vibes are bad. The vibes are bad. I'm setting you up. I'm going like gosh this is the worst but really I'm going come on buddy. I'm not gonna do it now. Reed's a story from American history. The guy who's interrupting me. Gareth Reynolds who has no idea what he did. Well I think or what the topic is going to be. I think we
Starting point is 00:01:31 know. Don't we? How do you feel right now about your behavior? Fine I feel like I've been a good boy and good boys deserve good things. How is that the answer? I've been a good boy. You don't even know what a good boy is. I'm a great boy. A good boy is supportive and he doesn't interrupt. Let me tell you something about not interrupting. Okay. I'm a great boy and here's why. I'm the best boy. The best boy. We're in a hotel in Kansas City. I guess in Kansas City technically. We brought our camera guy Luke with us who spilled what would you call that? I would say a leader. That's more than a leader. Two gallons. That's a
Starting point is 00:02:17 gallon. That's a gallon. That's a gallon container. A gallon of iced tea on the floor of the van today. Yeah. Casually. It's got a little straw hole but he's gonna show it. So if you're on Patreon you'll be able to see it. That's a big boy. But I would say if you're not on Patreon this is not worth joining Patreon for. I know that's probably not what I should be saying but it's not worth it. Just picture a big dumb white and red trucker cup. Yeah, that's exactly. And then imagine it full of iced tea and then imagine that slowly IV dripping on the van floor for two hours. Yeah. He did explain it though. He said it's flat on the bottom, correct?
Starting point is 00:02:55 Well, what I said was I said how could you buy that and not expect it to fall over. And his response was it's flat on the bottom. So he understands. I don't know if he does because it did spill everywhere. He understands physics. So it did spill everywhere. So you couldn't really have a defense as far as like how it was built. It is a fault in the in the plan. It's great too because he's not, he can't really say anything. He's just sitting there just sort of with it. With his, with his sippy. He seems completely unconcerned about what's happened. It looks like if a, it might be worth joining the Patreon. It looks like if a toddler, like
Starting point is 00:03:31 it's proportionate to what a toddler sippy cup would be, but he is a grown man. Well, it is a sippy cup. It's a giant sippy cup. Look at the dumb straw. Yeah. Just come over here and show that a little bit clearly. More clearly. It's just. Yeah, to get up off the ground. It's taking 30 minutes. It is just the biggest dumbest. And called it quote, is jam pads. Jammed app. I'm the fucking hippo guy. Dave, okay. My name's Gary. My name's Gary. Wait. Is it for fun? And this is not going to come to Tiggly Quad guys. Okay. This is like Adam. I'm a five part coefficient. My room's free. Now hit him with the puppy. You both present sick arguments. Don't sleep though, hippo. That's like though, hippo. Actually,
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Starting point is 00:07:42 it. There you go. Boom. And I would also like to remind people that November 14. I'm releasing my special, which is called England weed and the rest through moment. So you can go to moment dot co slash Gareth Reynolds. That's November 14 comes out at 6 p.m. Pacific time. You can buy those tickets now. They're good for two weeks. But if you watch on the night of the premiere, there's also a after party where Luke, the guy with the cup that should be jailed is also going to be there and will be answering questions and all that stuff. So you know, a couple years of work in the making. So please, if you can go to moment dot co slash Gareth Reynolds, watch England weed and the rest on November 14. I will
Starting point is 00:08:30 be releasing doves. Yeah, which I've asked you to if you could wait a couple days and I think it's just the right time to real asshole about it. There's going to be a lot of people. I have a lot of it's life. That would be a great special title. And I'll be releasing doves. My latest special. May 15 1912. Year of our Lord. Hey, Zucaristo, the magic man. The six place Detroit Tigers. We're playing New York's Hilltop Park. Oops. We're playing in New York's Hilltop. I was going to say, we're the Hilltop Park. Never heard of them close enough against the New York Highlanders, the Highlanders. The next year they become the Yankees in order to defeat them. You got to kill them, cut their heads off, cut their
Starting point is 00:09:20 head off. There can be only one. How great would have game with that be? Oh, like roller ball and yeah, they've been the fear that take that tigers. What just happened? They're all Christopher Lamberti. That's right. Give him the heater. Put a bunch of mustard on this pitch. Okay. All right. I'll see what I can do. Come on, guys. Dig deep. That's all of them. That's the coach. Yeah. Look, I got to take you out. You got a noodle arm. Coach, don't take me out just yet. There can be only one. Now there's another one in the ball pan. What is his accent? Where's he? I think he's like Canadian, French. He might be French, French. But then it was like he was French. I mean, I don't have never seen
Starting point is 00:10:08 Highlander. I just know a hack. I haven't. No, I know enough to get through a hacky statement. It's great. Oh, it's such a good movie. So you should start answering some of these questions. But I know Christopher Lambert was always funny. It was Christopher Lambert and I was like, yeah, that's right. The Christopher Lambert. Yeah. Cut this out. Ty Cobb was on the Detroit Tigers. Oh, shit. Cobb was seven years into his career and would go on to be one of the greatest baseball players of all time. Oh, boy. In 1907, he hit a homerun off Rube Waddell. Oh, gosh, with two outs in the ninth inning to win the pennant for the Tigers. And he would consider it the greatest moment of his entire career. Wow. Yeah. That's the
Starting point is 00:10:53 best moment in his career because that's how good Rube was. Yeah. Rube was the big pitcher and he hit to win the pennant off Rube. Rube probably showed up and was like, these guys aren't Tigers. He was probably distracted. He was let down. I don't understand what's going on here. You said we were playing Tigers. Rube, just pitch. No. Dad, don wire Rube. First catch. He cut off their leader's head. There can be only a Waddell. So at this point in 1912, Cobb had won six consecutive batting titles. Okay. But he's generally disliked. Sure. He considered baseball to be, quote, something of a war. Okay. I mean, lighten up. Sure. Take it. It's just, it's sports. Well, Dave, they all have that mentality
Starting point is 00:11:48 to some extent, right? Don't they really get all battled up before? I don't think they do. Some do. Some do. Not a lot. Yeah. Not a lot. Especially now. Now. Well, yeah. Now what that's one thing I love about watching sports now is you're like, man, look at all these millionaires who don't seem pretty ambivalent. Well, you're like, my heart hurts. They're like, Hey, where's case scenario? I go to my infinity pool. I'll never forget when I was living in New York in the Yankees and the Red Sox got into a brawl on the field and I knew someone and they're like, I catered a thing that night. They had like a poker game and it was just all Yankees and Red Sox hanging out there. That's not a thing. It's
Starting point is 00:12:30 all wrestling. So he is so right. So he's a dislike. He's very intense. He has a notorious temper. He's a he's a pretty typical Southern racist. Okay, meaning that he's a racist. But yeah, he's just it's just like that. Yeah, the standard racism of the time. Sure. Isn't that nice that we have like that? Just access. I don't want to paint him as a worse racist. Look, he's just what you'd call your casual racist. You're casual, societally accepted racist. His rookie year, his mom shot and killed his dad, which is pretty standard rookie stuff. Your mom is supposed to do your dad when you get into the majors. David, what? There can be only one. He thought she was cheating. He went up on the roof and then
Starting point is 00:13:22 she shot him and but he thought she was cheating. And he went up on the roof to watch and she shot him and then but her story didn't match. So anyway, he was Ty Cobb was really bummed. He was really I'm not trying to take sides. But as far as the dad situation goes, didn't come out on top. He got he got she's cheating. I'm going to go watch from the roof. Fuck you. He's like, but you're the doing the bad stuff. Yeah, it's like a fornicating Santa to death. That's how I want to go. So he was he was a really hard time after that. He felt very alone on a team because he's he's from the south. He's in the very north right up in Detroit has a hard time handling the usual rookie hazing, which is a lot a lot worse
Starting point is 00:14:03 back then. Yeah, right. Now you know, now it's like nothing. But then it was we're going to cut off your head there can only be one. Yeah. Yeah. Back then they're like, well, you got to have sex with the goat. Well, we're going to tear from your pee hole to your butthole. So teammates would cut his bats. They'd ruin his caps just to wherever it's just always just constant. And he's he's hating and he became a loner. He was angry at the world because of his dad, mom telling his dad, which, you know, so forever he has an edge. I'm not going to go in a cop here more because we'll probably do a dollp on him at some point. So I thought that was about to be what happens because I know I don't know a lot, but I know
Starting point is 00:14:41 terrible piece of shit, right? I there's some debate over that like this one one early biographer really, really did like a sensationalized version. Right. So later historians like not as much maybe, but not still not a good guy, right, but not just not as demonic as just an average Southern racist with a temper. Yeah, with a temper. So his play was above all he's he's by 1910. He's the biggest star in the American League. Okay. His teammates still don't like him. They never got along after the rookie season. Okay, stuff. Opposing players don't like him. So nobody likes him. He plays too hard. He goes it really hard. So his team doesn't like him. Other teams don't like him. Opposing coaches don't like
Starting point is 00:15:37 him. So nobody likes him. A lot of fans don't like him. So he's not very he's not well liked. He's still the biggest. He's the best baseball player, but nobody likes him. Yeah, I guess that's a good way to know you. Okay. At the game in New York on May 15th, Cobb was just viciously and endlessly heckled by New Yorkers. There was the third game with three game series that Detroit won the first two. Okay. And New Yorkers are really not happy. One particular fan, Claude Lucker had really been abusing Cobb for years. A fan named Claude Lucker. Yeah. Could be Lucker, but it's spelled Lucker. Okay. He's been going after Cobb. He's been coming to games for years and right and sitting near the dugout and just. Well,
Starting point is 00:16:34 that that is always one of those things that I think is so amazing. It was like, they hear you. Oh yeah. It's like it's here. That's what I loved about Twitter at the beginning that I could just like him to reply to Kim Kardashian be like, fuck you. You know, there's some openness here that I'm okay with. But like, they hear you. So you know that you're going like. Yeah, they hear you. I mean, they might they might have gotten themselves prepared to a level where they can ignore you. They can rise above it. But they can still hear you just. Oh, they, oh, they hear you. Yeah. I went to an angels game. My manager had gotten a right behind the dugout seat. Okay. No, right behind the batting circle. It's like
Starting point is 00:17:15 there was like a studio studio apartment. He was living there. He was living behind a plate. A suite. There's a little suite. Like they have suites right on the field. So he gets it. I'm just like sitting there and the players would be like four feet away from you and Carl Everett was on Toronto and he had just said he didn't believe in dinosaurs. So me and my buddy just sat there. I'm going to need a second in general. Like we're used to some crazy Kyrie Irving shit right now. But Chris, is it super Christian belief that dinosaurs aren't real dinosaurs were put here by God to try to challenge your faith? Because the planets were real. What are they holograms? The plans only 6,000 years old. No, they're
Starting point is 00:18:00 planted by God, but they were still here. It's a throw off. No, they were put in in it. So you'd think that Oh, it's older. It's older. So what's God's angle? He's just like 6,000 stupid. He's just it's like a barometer for who's dumb. It's a no. He's testing your faith. Got to tell you. It's not make sense. At some point it would just be great for him to come down and just be like, look, here's what's going on. And they'd be like, read the tea leaves for thousands of years. So me and my friend, every time Carl Everett came up, we would just start talking about how dinosaurs weren't real. And in the eighth inning, he turns around and goes, man, can you guys just stop? I'm a tire to source.
Starting point is 00:18:48 I'm over to source, man. I just want to hit. Here's a great one. I then we'll get back to the story. But my buddy Burns just told me about this. He was at a Philly's. He's a Philly's fan. He's at a Philly's game. And it was, I think it was in Shea Stadium where the Mets play and his buddy and all the Mets fans were shouting about this guy. I don't even know his name. KS. I don't know anything about baseball. But oh, Schwerber. Oh, Schwerber. Schwerber, right? So his Mets friends and Mets fans are chanting, Schwerber is ugly. And, um, and he said, that one really got to me. But then when the chant died down, this is my buddy Burns who did this. One lone man stood up and yelled, don't listen to them,
Starting point is 00:19:37 Kyle. These guys are mean. You're very handsome. I thought about that guy all night long. That was my buddy Burns. So he's like getting called ugly. And then one guy was like, you're handsome. He's like, man, that guy's awesome. Okay. All right. So he's got Claude shouting at him. So he's been doing it for years. Looker was subscribed by baseball historian Frank Russo as quote a Tammany Hall lackey and a two bit punk. Wow. Okay. So he's an assistant at Tammany Hall to the sheriff and somebody else. So why not show up at Tammany Hall and yell that shit at him? That'd be how you do it. That's one way to do it. Yeah. So Looker, he's sitting close to the Tigers dugout. And during the game on the 15th, he starts throwing insults,
Starting point is 00:20:28 Cob starts yelling back and so they're going back and forth as I think they've been doing for a while years. And this goes on for the first two innings. Author Daniel Ginsburg said, Looker was quote taunting Cob with a steady barrage of profanity laced abuse peppered with racial slurs. Just stuff you do at the time. So so Claude is saying that to Cob. Yeah. What he's racial slurring. He knows that Cob is a Southern racist. And so he's saying like, you know, you're a black this and that only in America can our racism be so abysmal that you can slur a white. But it's hard to process your that you're calling him the thing he hates to make him mad. Like your racism is that deep where you're just
Starting point is 00:21:31 like, it's very it's very meta is very meta. It's tough. Yeah, it is tough. So so Cob is so irritated that he goes to the Highlanders dugout to try to find the club owner of the Highlanders to tell him to kick this guy out of the stadium. Okay. But he can't find the club owner for what? Okay. So then he goes to the cops. And he says, do something about this guy. And they're like, no, they're near cops. Like, get out, get the fuck out of here. Yeah. What are you fucking kidding me? Go fucking play baseball, baseball, boy. Hey, that's that's actually a thing that we should respond to. Therefore, no. Well, you can't have a little racist lip. So he doesn't come back to the dugout for second inning. He's
Starting point is 00:22:24 a center fielder. And he just goes out past the fence and hangs out there. He's cop does. Yeah, he stays in the outfield. That would be like if you're clawed, you're like, I don't love that. You know, you should go back to the home and I would love it if he just went back there and seen him in a while. But he has to bat in the fourth inning. So he comes back, okay, for the fourth. And he walks right into the dugout and yells an insult at Lucker. Okay. Because he's probably out there in Santa Field just stewing. Right. No, you're the black one. Right. Yeah, right. So Lucker then calls Cobb a quote half and word. And Cobb told it's it's really crazy. Yeah. And
Starting point is 00:23:15 then Cobb goes to the opposing manager and says, you better shut this guy up or there's going to be trouble. Now when Cobb says there's going to be trouble, he's very well known for fighting. Right. Both on and off the field. He's calling a shot like Ruth. Yeah, pretty much right. In 1907, a black groundskeeper keeper. No, no, a groundskeeper, a groundspeeper coming to just get a change on second base. I'm going to be really low and just eyes up. That's weird. Jerk, are we behind some Ivy? Are we paying that guy? Yeah, he's the groundspeeper. He's a groundspeeper. It's we find that his seeds are good on the seeds. So a black groundskeeper said hi to Cobb in a way that Cobb felt was too familiar. And I'm going to go ahead and
Starting point is 00:24:09 guess that the way he did it was like, Hello. Yes. And this is probably what it Hey, how's it going, Ty? Oh, so Cobb attacked him. Of course. And Dave were all very comfortable with how it used to be. Hello, I'll kill you. And then the groundskeeper's wife is there for some reason. She tries to stop it. Cob starts choking her. Well, he didn't like the way she was trying to stop the attack. That's right. A little familiar, have a little respect, a little familiar. He had to be knocked up by the catcher to Cobb had to be knocked up by the catcher to stop there can be only one or one and then he cut his head off. Right. So Cobb was actually charged with battery a year later when a black worker was irritated
Starting point is 00:25:05 after Cobb walked through freshly poured asphalt, he just put down and Cobb didn't like how he talked to him and attacked him. I mean, he's definitely initiating. Yeah. Oh, no, they definitely I think it's fair to say he's escalating. He's definitely an escalator. Yeah. Well, he's not an escalator, but you know, I mean, it'd be great if he was more of an take on form of escalator. Oh, what have I done? Cobb. Okay, everybody get on me. Cut off one of his stairs. So this is the guy everyone wasn't ignoring when he said to get rid of that guy. Right. So nothing's done. And the yelling continues goes into the sixth inning. And now the comment that he did the half. Mm hmm. It's still eating
Starting point is 00:25:53 in him. Other Tiger players like Sam Crawford and Jim Delanti are asking Cobb what he was going to do about it. Now, Sam Crawford hates Ty Cobb. They hate each other. So he's egging him on to get him to go do something because he hates it. Right. And in the sixth inning, Cobb runs up into the stands. Oh boy. He goes up 12 rows to where lucker is. Wow. He quickly hit him with several punches in the face, then knocks lucker down and begins kicking and stomping him in the abdomen with his cleats. Jesus Christ. How did he get 12 rows without anyone being like, Hey, buddy, who's going to stop him? I guess. But that okay. So then he's stomping on abs. Yeah. This is bad. Cleats are their metal cleats. Yeah. Oh, interesting.
Starting point is 00:26:46 Oh, fun. Great. I got our seats are awesome. Look at this. Oh my God. I got blood on me. Oh my God. I'm going to get his abs kick his abs. Fuck this guy. And then someone yelled quote take me out to the ball game. Someone yelled quote, Cobb, that man has no hands. And Cobb yelled back quote, I don't care if he has no feet and kept kicking and stomping. This just became a lot weirder. So Claude has no hands. Locker had lost one hand and three fingers on the other hand in a printing press accident the year before. That's not very lucker. There's definitely not very lucker. So yes, he is he is hand. So so Cobb is beating up a handicapped gentleman. Ty goes to the beater. Ty goes
Starting point is 00:27:45 to the beater. Although, you know, you don't need like you could just have a stomp and swing and make contact. Sure. Who are you? I'm just saying, I don't think not having hands is a problem in a fight. Great. So why don't we get rid of yours and put you in a situation? I'm not going to get rid of my hands. I don't need to prove a point. Well, but I think my point is solid. No, not good at all. No, would have been very not going to say it, but helpful. Oh, not handy. Well, Bones Jackson was disagree with you. Some fans try to pull them apart. So they move into pull apart. If they meant pull tie apart, separate his body. Okay, so some people are some people are like, let's stop this fight. But Cobb's
Starting point is 00:28:38 teammates had rushed up behind him. Don't tell me they're making like a safety circle. Yes. They followed him. And then they held off the fans with bats. So they brought their bats up. And now they're like, you know, holding them like they're going to swing and hit people so Cobb can keep bunching bunching the guy with no hand and no, and two fingers altogether, two fingers. Sure. And is that because they want the worst for Cobb? No, they did want Cobb to to beat this guy up. They just wanted the man beaten and they were just like form form circles around Cobb. Let him kill this guy. Let him go. God, I love baseball. There can be only one. So an umpire and a cop finally got up there and pulled Cobb off the guy.
Starting point is 00:29:28 He's out of here. Cobb was obviously ejected from the game. I'm what grounds? I don't know. What was the grounds people doing? This is exactly what I wanted. So steamy. The New York Tribune's headline was Cobb turns to boxing. Nice. So one of those ones that if you're like, oh, interesting, I thought he was a baseball player, like you should you should probably just be a little more explicit in the headline. The article said a quote noisy fan in the left field stands at yesterday's game, heaped abuse and vilification on Ty Cobb until the outrage player was provoked into administering a well deserved beating. So they're really there. There's a there's a slant. It's a different time. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:30:14 They're very well. He said some stuff with Ty Cobb was right for beating the handless man. We don't feel bad about getting on that side of this. That's where we think it is. Can we just talk about Luke right now? You mean the iced teed mermaid? Well, what is he? He's got his head on the shelf. He's laying on his side with his big stupid sippy cup on a little shelf with a microwave above his head. Just how God intended. So the president of the American League happened to be doing a tour of stadiums and he was there. Oh, wow. Said always like this. Do they always beat them? I haven't been to a stadium in a while, but why are the other teammates forming a circle? Do you want to guess the attendance, sir? I
Starting point is 00:31:02 suppose. Oh, it's one less. Yeah. So the American League president's name, we're going to give everyone a guess as to how many people died at tonight's event. Seven, zero, four or one. Oh God, four, I think. Not seven. Four. Not zero. It's not. Not four. Oh, no. One man was murdered tonight's game. If you said one, you have a moral victory. You win peanuts. You win nothing. So the American League president's name is Ban Jackson. Okay, let's. Sure. Ban Jackson. Ban Jackson. Nice. And he's horrified watching what's happening. And what is it about this situation that he's not into? Well, the beating of the disabled man plays delayed. Oh, that's what it is. We have a brain delay. It's the beating. He's not sure.
Starting point is 00:32:06 He immediately suspends Cobb indefinitely. Nice. The next game is Friday, the 18th in Philadelphia. Okay. And even though many players do not like Cobb, can Luke Lee on your bed? Yeah. Even though many of the players don't like Cobb, they their teammates, but they're also really tired of all the abuse they're getting from the fans. Right. So this is and they want something done about it. Right. Okay. So they backed the shit king. Okay. Cobb quote, a ball player should not be expected to take everything as we have some self respect and cannot endure more than human nature will stand for. Yeah, I mean, again, I'm thinking what got him into the stands was being called a slur that he hurls. Yeah, probably. And
Starting point is 00:32:59 also the shine off of the movement. This would be like if comedians just came out of off the stage and just started beating the shit out of people. Like it's the same thing. Be a great closer. Oh my God. And now I'm going to beat the fuck out of this guy. It wouldn't shut up all show. You know what? There's some comedians I could see doing this soon. I've definitely heard of comics like looking out and being like starting shit. Well, you've seen the the guitar hit, right? Yes. That's one of the great if you if you if you don't know I'm talking about go just Google a comedian hits audience member with guitar. It's he deserved that. No, we didn't. So great closer. Yeah. So 16 Tiger players now vote to
Starting point is 00:33:50 go on strike to protest Cobb suspension. Wow. Okay. They said they would not take the field again until Cobb is reinstated. Because he did what was right, Gareth. Shut up, Dave. Jeez. Ban Johnson is not the type of man to back down. I mean, he's banning him. How do you think they got I got that name? What do you think? I'm ban Jackson. I was born to ban, baby. Yeah. So hearing he hears the threat of the strike and he tells the Detroit owners if you strike in baseball, you have to be like, we're on strike. We're out here. So he tells the Detroit Tigers owner that the team will have to forfeit every game that they don't have players out and he will find the team $5,000 every game. Wow. That's $150,000
Starting point is 00:34:55 in today's money. So the players in a letter, they write a letter to Johnson, Jackson, ban ban, ban Johnson, Jackson. Pardon, sir. It's Johnson. They said Jackson. No, ban Johnson. Did I say Jackson? You said Jackson earlier. Did I? Yeah. No, I said, I didn't I said Jackson about something else. I said, I said bone Jackson. I said bone Jackson was talking about the, with the fight. Okay. I mean, it could be wrong. You know, I, I, I get stuff messed up all the time. I tell you something. The last thing I want is for them to ban Johnson. Okay. And a letter to ban Johnson. The players wrote quote, if the players cannot have protection, we must protect ourselves. So they're basically saying, shut the fans up, but we're going
Starting point is 00:35:55 to be vigilant. It's time for us to go on the stands and beat the shit. Right. By the way, from a pure entertainment standpoint, I'd be like, okay, let's give it a year. Totally different. Let's see for one season, how that ends up going. Yeah, let's just check it out. Everything gets a chance. Yeah. So the owner is now panicked because he knows the players are very serious and he knows ban Johnson is very serious. This could lead to the end of his franchise and very quickly, like the team could fold because it's $150,000. Right. He can't afford that. Tiger King. This guy, Tiger King. Yeah. So he orders the manager to put any team he can find out on the field. He's like, you're going to put a team. Please
Starting point is 00:36:37 tell me Claude's a member of it. This is an ironic choice that I fully support, sir. Now they go to Philadelphia. They're in Philadelphia when this happens. And the Philadelphia manager Connie Mack, who's like a really famous man, he managed the team for 50 years. He is like a legendary manager. What do we do now? What is that? That's a ball, Connie. Oh, no. I'm going to have to take you out, rookie. Take me out. Oh, no. What do you mean? Oh, no. Should I not have said that? Okay, what? Oh, the game hasn't started, coach. Oh, we got this one then. Which one? Oh, hit the showers, boys. Yeah, no, the game's in the toilet. The game's in an hour. Oh, uh, give him this stinkin' heat. Okay, coach. Oh, the games
Starting point is 00:37:44 are getting later and later. It's, it's 11 a.m. Oh, I ate my supper at the wrong time. Should we go warm up, coach? No. No. Oh, I don't know. No. Oh, I feel so bad. I hurt Martha's feelings for her birthday. Coach. Hmm. Should we go warm up? No. Why? We already, oh, no. Oh, oh, no. Oh, dear. Oh, oh, no. Oh, I'll pitch. Okay. Oh. So Connie Mack tells the, the, the Detroit manager, he goes, you should just get a team of local guys who've played ball around Philadelphia. And if you need to put them out there so you don't get fined. It's, I mean, we're in the preview part of the movie. You know what I mean? Like it's
Starting point is 00:38:55 just like, what are you just going to put your people from the local area and make them your team? 20th century Fox presents. So it sounded like, it sounded like a decent idea to the manager. So he calls up a sports writer. He, he knows. And he's like, can you help me find players? Now preseason is called spring training or spring at this time, spring X, X. Exposition. Exhibition. Yes. Exhibition. Exhibition. The spring exhibition. So during that time, the Philadelphia A's had a team of second stringers who were called the Yannigans. Sure. Yeah. It's no, I haven't heard of anything that's puzzling. So the sports writer knew the team's assistant manager, Alan Travers, who currently was a 20 year old seminary student
Starting point is 00:39:55 and also the assistant manager for the, the seminary team, the seminary team. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I mean, it's not all very normal, right? It's totally fine. So the writer reaches out and asked Tabbers if he can find 10 to 12 players who would be ready to play if the Tigers refused to take the field on Monday. He said, he said, look, Detroit would lose the franchise if they don't put a team on the field. And they just have to take the field. They don't have to play. They just have to take the field. Well, let them play. But that's like, that's like, they might not want to play if they're just sure. Well, they'll probably be fumbling over their little robes and stuff. Yeah, that's right. Right.
Starting point is 00:40:44 So Travers is like, yeah, I can do that. Quote. So I went down to 23rd and Columbia, where a bunch of fellows were standing around the corner. Hey, boys, want to be a professional baseball team? Okay. Yeah, I don't know. I was going to go, we was going to go bowling. We still go bowling. Come on. Why don't you be the Tigers this season? Um, yeah. What does that mean? You'll be the Tigers this year. Which sport are we talking about? Baseball doesn't really matter. I've never done that one. Come on. Let me introduce you to your manager. Oh, no. Oh, no. No, no. Oh, gosh. So he finds some of those guys are like, yeah, we'll do it. All right, we'll be the Tigers. Each player was going to get $25 for the day
Starting point is 00:41:31 if they played. Sure. Six of the players are sandlotters. So just guys who, you know, like amateur, yeah, but just like amateur, get together, get pick up games, you know, right? Two were local amateur boxers. Good. You're going to need those for when the Claude's at the game. They must have some of them must have felt it was going to be a problem because one guy was named John Coffey. He was 19 years old and he used the alias Jack Smith. Okay. So they knew it was going to be a problem. Well, they are scabs. Oh, okay. They are taking there. It is a team on strike. We're going to find this Jack Smith. So they arrive at Shibby Park. Shibby. Oh, okay. Early on game day and the manager tells
Starting point is 00:42:28 them to sit in the bleachers, go to the bleachers and just pretend your fans. Yeah, just pretend your fans. So very surprisingly, I guess maybe word is out. I'm not sure why it is definitely a great baseball day. It's like, you know, 72 degrees sunny. It's like a great day. 20,000 people come, which is huge, a huge attendance, right? So a game time is a 230. And the Empire yells play ball. Okay. And the Tigers come out of the clubhouse out of the dugout. The fake Tigers, the Tigers, sure, our seminary boxing team, no, the real time, the real Tigers, okay, come out, they go onto the field, they take their positions, including Ty Cobb, who goes out to center field, his usual position. And then the Empire closest to Cobb signals
Starting point is 00:43:29 for him to leave the field, right? Because he's supposed to be there. So Cobb angrily marches off the field and all of his teammates follow him. Okay. And they go right into the clubhouse. Okay. So into the dugout and then gone. That should be called the clubhouse for the time. Yeah, that's yes, or the cups. Sure. So they go in there, they take off the uniforms and they get back in the street close. Okay. This is the first strike in the history of baseball. non batting. Correct. Well, well done. Thank you. The Tigers manager now signals to travers in the stands to bring the guys down to love that he's got like, like he's probably just like, yeah, he's to baseball. Yeah. Yeah. But I just imagine sitting in
Starting point is 00:44:26 the stands and everyone's like, Well, what the hell are we going to do? And all of a sudden 12 guys, we're the new Tigers. Welcome to Tiger two boys with the two girls. So, so they get up and they go into the clubhouse and they put on the uniforms that the players had just taken off. Wow. And then they signed one day contracts on the spot. That's the time to negotiate a little bit. Yeah. Oh, you know what? I'm going to do that. Now, so you're going to get, you're going to get cost 25. So I feel like we could actually do 100. Yeah. Yeah. $100 instead. They're like, cool. Oh, hey, 25. Yeah. Yeah, I would have totally Yeah, you got to. So now they're all official Detroit Tigers. Now, Connie Mac, the old manager
Starting point is 00:45:16 of the he's not old now, but the manager of the Philippines. I know. Also happen to be one of the owners of the Phillip of the Philippines. He originally told the Tigers, just take the field that we won't play the game so you don't get fined. Right. Right. But now that there's 20,000 fans. Yeah. It's a lot of money. Right. And he's like, no, we're going to play the game. He also thinks, well, his players can just, you know, up their stats. And the new Tigers have had no practice as a squad in any way. Not at all. Right. So they're just from street to street to this game. Some of them don't know how to play baseball. Well, Dave, that's an interesting sign. Now, that's interesting that you signed some of
Starting point is 00:46:05 that with the boxers. Yo, just hit him in the cheeks. Listen, this is a bit more nuance. There's some strategy here. All right, a guy hit the ball, go punch him in the face. Give him a couple of the body, Jerry. Take your gloves off when hitting. God damn it. He takes his shirt off. He's just in shorts. Who do this puts his mouth guard in. And there we go. After one swing, a guy comes over, puts water in his mouth. You got this. Spit in the bucket. Come on. Cut his eye. Cut his eye. Cut his eye. Do we got a cup man here? Yeah. Cut his eye. So, so, uh, so yeah, he's like, we can up our stats for the guy. So the Tigers manager can't believe it. That's not what he was told. Right. This is not the promise.
Starting point is 00:46:53 Uh, but he's not going to argue with Connie Mack. Is Connie Mack's a legend already in the game. There's a drunk or drunk or two there who are just like, don't know. Like some guy probably went to take a piss and came back. It was like, all right, let's go boys. I can't believe Cobb's exit getting to play the game. That's pretty good. Same uniform. Hold on. Cobb has one leg. That's right. What the hell happened? Unbelievable. Why is Cobb standing backwards? I don't know. Cobb was a boxer. Why is he a boxer? I mean, I kind of knew he was, I guess. Uh, so he tells, he tells them to take the field. He's got to go out there. All right guys, wherever you want to stand, stand. No. One of you has got a toss. One of you has got to catch
Starting point is 00:47:37 and the rest of you just stand around. So a couple of very crucial positions in baseball, the catcher who has to catch every pitch and the first baseman has to be able to catch all the throws to him. So, um, so the Tigers manager talks two of his coaches into playing Jim Deacon McGuire, who's 48 years old. Wow. But he had been a catcher back in the day, which they desperately would need in this game. And this is what year is this? Like 1920? This is 1915. So this is 48 and 1915. I think it's 1950. So this is like, yeah, you're like 104. I mean, it's closer to 55, 60 on the field, 80. Yeah. And then he could be the old guy voice for the episode. It's a shame we already cast him. So, so they desperately need that. Um, and then the other
Starting point is 00:48:27 coach is 41 and they put him at first base. So they had two, you know, baseball players at least baseball historian Al Stump called it quote, the most farcical lineup the majors had ever known. Wow. But the team would need a pitcher. Of course. And they didn't, they didn't, he didn't go out and pick these guys based on positions. He was just like, you look like ball players. And really, none of them want to pitch because they're pitching against the team that won the World Series last year. Like these guys are, it is like, it's stressful. It's a stress, it's a stressful moment. I feel like, all right. So who wants to pitch against the world champs? So he says, look, I'll pay $50 to anyone who pitches. So you get double the rate, double the rate if you'll pitch.
Starting point is 00:49:18 I mean, it's going to be a murder. Yeah. Yeah. So Travers said, I'll do it. Sure. I'll do it. I'll take your hand. Yeah, I'm going to throw. How many times can it bounce? Oh gosh. He did not tell the pitcher he'd never pitched in his life. He's played baseball. And, you know, now he's going to be pitching against the world champions. Yeah. So he's not a natural athlete, Travers. He's not. I think he's probably not a great guy to be pitching. He's, he played some stickball as a kid. They're a lot bigger than sticks. But his mom wanted him to be a musician and dreamed he would play with the Philadelphia Symphony Orchestra. So she really pushed that. She screwed me for this moment. He played violin. Oh, the same difference.
Starting point is 00:50:11 So yeah, and he's a junior at St. Joe's Seminary College, though he is playing violin in the school orchestra. Yeah, but I don't know if that's a though. It's helps with baseball. Not really. Dexterity. Not sure. He also, he doubles in acting. He just was in the school. Well, good. Pretend you're a pitcher. He was just action. School play. He was in a school play. So he has some skills. Like when I think back to school play age, no experience. My little actor arm. Yeah, I couldn't really figure that one out. Ouch. He was not, however, good enough to make the high school varsity baseball team. So there's a guy pitching against the World Series champions who couldn't make a varsity team. That is correct.
Starting point is 00:51:04 At the seminary school. No, this is high school. You couldn't make the high school varsity team. That's still pretty bad. So pretty bad. Instead, he became the team assistant manager and he would write guys, don't forget a couple. Have some water guys. That's his role. And I was like, that's pitch. Hey, Jimmy, you want to tell? I mean, there are probably guys there who were like, yeah, I could pitch. And you guys want me to go down there? I could. I can probably do a lot better than this guy. Yeah. So he would write up summaries of games for the school paper also. So he knew baseball, but not exactly major league baseball material. I think it doesn't sound like it didn't make his high school team. And he's going to be in front of 20,000 people pitching.
Starting point is 00:51:49 So maybe nerves will be a bit of a factor. There's probably a couple things going on right now. And instead of Connie Mack taking it easy because these are a bunch of guys who've never played baseball. He's like the stack guy. He put out his best team. Wow. So he was like, let's show it. All the regular starters, his infield at the time was called the $100,000 infield. Because it had two Hall of Famers, third baseman, Frank Holmrun Baker. Holmrun Baker? Not cool. Frank Holmrun Baker. Baker. The kid with that nickname, right? Holmrun Baker. Holm. Hall of Fame, second baseman, Eddie Collins. Amazing shortstop, Jack Berry, and very well
Starting point is 00:52:36 respected first baseman, Stuffy McKinnis. That's right. I stuffed some. Most of this is cotton. Mack played the best players, the starters, all nine innings. He didn't replace anybody. Jesus Christ. If you're just joining us, it's the third inning, 141 to nothing. Four dead. Four have died on the field. I've never seen so much throw up. I did not know baseball could go through a man. At this point, the starting shortstop is a bunny rabbit. We've got the groundskeeper who is now playing second base. Although he was ejected to the seventh inning for the stretch, which I'm not going to get into anymore. Very upsetting. Now, the one part we always get a not stretched. I actually called the cops, Jim.
Starting point is 00:53:29 Of course you did, who are now actually starting for the team as well. We have the police force as well out there. And of course, Claude Lucker out there. I would call him a stump, but he's out in left field. The best player they have out there to be quite honest with you. Interesting decision to make a bicycle to catch her. What else are they going to do though? No, it's been worked out pretty well for him so far. Two of the three pitchers that Mack pitched during the game were huge, huge stars. One was a future Hall of Famer. Maybe because of this game. That's a bad game. It's unreal. They would strike out the replacement players 16 times in the game. So that's if you don't know that you get 27 of bats if you don't get any hits. Yeah, that's so many
Starting point is 00:54:27 K's that Ty Cobb was like, I feel comfortable. So the replacements, it started a pretty exciting for him. Like this is, you know, kind of crazy and fun. And then it turned pretty quickly into this nightmare and this baseball players are used to fast pitches. So sometimes a super slow pitcher can throw off hitters. Sure. Travers said he was throwing very slow curves. Now, the reason he was doing that is because the manager told him not to throw any fast balls because they would kill him. So like they would hit it though they would hit it so hard that he might die. I'm gonna get killed. Okay. So he's I mean, but if you're not able to make your high school team, you're like, I got a throw, I got a curve. Okay, I've seen this. You see this a lot
Starting point is 00:55:22 at Finn's age. There's really fast pitchers. And then they bring in a guy who can barely reach the plate. Sure. So the ball comes in and then you swing at it. But it's harder to hit. It's dropping right because it can't go that far. But is that a strike? Yes. If you if you swing, but if it like if you throw it, if you throw it where it's just dropping when it gets to the plate, it is a strike. If it hits, if it hits the plate, if it hits the plate, it's not. But these are usually they just start falling when they get to the plate. And then they just drop down with a nice arch who's basically hitting the catcher chode. Yeah, it's a dynamite pitch. Well, that's a weird way to see if the catcher does the chode signal. I don't think that's a thing.
Starting point is 00:56:07 I'm gonna go. Let's shut up the camera. Can we shut up the camera? Can we blur? Oh, he wants a chode. I'm sorry. He keeps shaking it off. Don't don't. Don't show them. Jodam. Don't subscribe to Patreon. Not the not the chode. Jodam. Jodam. Jodam inside chode. Left leg choded. What are you? Get the chode. Toss the chode. Give me the sink and meat. Stop. So quote, I was doing fine until they started bunting. The guy playing. What a crazy situation. They're like, look, this is, we're gonna have to fight crazy with a little crazy here. Let's start bunting. The guy playing third base had never played baseball before. I just didn't get any support. So when you, if you don't know baseball, huh? If you don't know baseball,
Starting point is 00:57:03 you're basically the pitch comes in, you just, you just tap, you just tap it and it rolls right, you know, usually toward the third baseman. And the third baseman has to know when you start to punt, he has to charge in. So the guy playing third doesn't throw to first. Yeah, then throw to first. So the guy playing third doesn't know that and he just stands there and he just keeps looking at it going, I don't know what you want me. Oh, these guys can't hit, huh? I think these guys might be from the street too. What do you call tapping it? Are they tapping it? So he says, I didn't get any support. No one in the grandstands was safe. So they were, when you pitch really slow, it does get hit, but usually it gets hit foul, right? Because you're
Starting point is 00:57:42 coming around on it so quickly, right? So slow. So people over on the third base side are like terrified probably. Pew. I threw a beautiful slow ball and the A's were just hitting easy flies. Amazing that he said that. I threw a real beautiful slow baby. A real waffling bird. Trouble was no one would, no one could catch them. He, he, I look, he probably didn't want to deal with the reality that he, no, no, I, I generally think, I think based on having seen this a lot, I think that the balls were so slow that they were trying to hit them and, and they, they probably had never, he's basically saying it's a fielding issue. Well, it is because it's a whole, it's a, it's a, it's a root to top issue. Yeah. Yeah. No, it's a root to top issue. Absolutely. But he's
Starting point is 00:58:33 saying the balls that should have been outs, they're not out. Right. Right. Right. Because they're basically, they're flailing. Like they're trying to hit it, but they're way ahead of it and it's just popping up. So I, yeah. He's like, I'm separating their shoulders one by one. We have a shot of your guys. Give him the chode me tanky. So he, Traverse pitches the whole game and he gives up 24 runs on 26 hits. Okay. So not great. It's like 10 errors or something crazy. Sure. He walks seven and he strikes out one. That guy. I don't want to talk about it. I don't want to talk about, you know, his 19 foul balls. I nobody, for the rest of the year, for the rest of the year, the other guys on the team. And you remember when that guy who
Starting point is 00:59:16 does not play baseball stuck out, Jimmy? Well, what do you know? Spaghetti got you out with an underhand look. That is terrible. The A's won 24 to two. He set a major league record for most runs allowed in a nine inning game. Wow. 24. They got two runs. I don't. So, so they got two runs. One guy, by the way, that's a record to this day. 24 to two. Him giving up 24 runs on 24 runs. One guy, right? Yeah. But yeah, so one guy got two hits. One guy, two triples, two triples. Ed Irvin, he went two for three. So there must have been a guy two for three. So there must have been a guy who got walked. I think it was like Jesus in a baseball outfit. What was this guy? So there must have been a guy on base when he did that or he got in on a wild
Starting point is 01:00:17 pitch or something like after. Still, he got two triples. Yeah. Crazy, right? Wild. Wild. Oddly, one of the boxers, Bill Maharg, played two innings at third and had two throwouts and no errors. However, he was hit in the mouth by a ground ball and lost several teeth. Okay. But for a box, he's like, but come on, come on, come on. Wow. He said, quote, several teeth. But the thing is, is he made the out or it would be an error. So that means he got hit in the face by the baseball, lost a bunch of teeth, picked up and threw it. And then was like, well, he probably threw the ball like with a handful of his teeth, too. Just let it go. Oh, hey, my big, you want this teeth? It was it was in the ball.
Starting point is 01:01:08 That's good field in there, pal. That's good stuff. Everyone next time, get your mouths in front of these. Stop with your mouth, boys. Come on. Let's call these mouth or grounders. Maharg said, quote, this isn't baseball. This is war. Which one's that? The guy got hit in the mouth. Well, I'm sure it was actually a little more like you didn't pay for the wall. What's Billy saying? All right, guys, look, we're done with what? What could be done by more? What? Or it could be done by what? Nobody believes in us. Nobody gives us a thought today. What? Nobody. Go on. Look around and understand from him. Would you? Look at all the people. Now, there's a lot of people out there saying stuff that they don't mean.
Starting point is 01:01:54 What? I look at the face of some of the kids out there. No kids could be doing something. What? I think, I think my face on the part of the model of the kids. So what do I think we got to do? Okay. What we got to do? Okay. Put all out of your mind. Put all out of your mind. Okay. And I thought we know the game of Duel Duel right now. Can you look? I love, I, yeah. Duel Duel. It's Bob McIntyre. All right. Bob McIntyre. Duel Duel. So we got to get back out there. The inning's over. We are at bat's rub. I'm having trouble remembering what's going on a little bit. Yeah, it's okay. I don't know. The ball really quacked me in my face. Oh, I didn't notice that. Yeah. You can hardly tell. Let's just, no matter
Starting point is 01:02:42 what happened, we are ever bonded as brothers after today. Okay. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. That was a great thing. Then we'll do it again. Yeah. No, I was asking a question. Oh, sorry. Yeah. I didn't know. It's a brace. What? Is it all right to be on this team? Yeah. Oh, what? Oh, yeah. Oh, no. Okay. I'm sorry. I didn't know. Are you like? No, I thought, no, I'm sorry. What? All right. I want to marry your sister. Oh, Jesus. Oh, you want to marry my fister? No, I want to call someone else. Sure. I don't, yeah, you can marry my fister, whatever that is. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Okay. I'm a wife also. My tongue is so big. Yeah, it's, you're really small. I'm all bad with it. You look like a puffer. I'm all bad with my tongue. Okay. You
Starting point is 01:03:44 look like a puffer fish. Yeah, cool. So the crowd did not enjoy it. Just one more thing. The crowd did not enjoy the game. They considered it a joke. I would have loved the game. I would have absolutely loved the game. Loved it. Loved it. It's fantastic. But the fans, many of them were disgusted and they left after the third inning. They asked for refunds. Bring back that racist. The replacement players had basically been abused by rich assholes, right? Like they had been taken advantage of, but they also could have walked away. So there's gaps. Right. Yeah. Right. 100%. Now, the New York sheriff who was Lucker's boss at Tammany Hall said, quote, the folks in my district don't believe a trained athlete assaulting a cripple. That's all.
Starting point is 01:04:41 Well, here goes that logic. So they're like, not only is the game not going up, but they're like, yeah, this guy's like, they're piling it on. Yeah. Right. So the next day, oh, sorry. I moved this head. Well, this is what we call the seventh inning stretch of the podcast. Okay. Okay. Sorry. Here we go. So the next day is Sunday. There's no baseball on Sunday at this time. Right. Because it's a large day. God is God, blah, blah, blah. Excuse me. What? No, it's God, blah, blah, blah. Yeah. Because it's the day of praying for he who have given us the bounty like loads. Yeah, I said, blah, blah, blah. He is we rest because he is to a little bit. I'm not sure exactly how it works. It's the day of the dinosaur test.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Johnny, where they're dinosaurs. He's a sleeper source. The correct answer. So ban Johnson. When I was like six or seven, they had us draw dinosaurs in kindergarten. I remember when I drew a dinosaur and a caveman. Yeah. And my teacher, I just remember I didn't couldn't. She she explained it to me after, but I was like, that's what they were doing. Yeah. Well, it's not me. No, it's not going to do great. I think I hope you find comedy. Benjamin Franklin, the president. I bet if you asked Americans how I bet if you asked them, it was he a president. 40% would say Ben Franklin was higher. Maybe higher than that at a live show because I mocked dumb Americans all the time. But that's what you just said is hurtful still. I know, I know, but
Starting point is 01:06:34 it was it was done. But you just said, I know, I guess what you're saying is you're a typical American. There's a lot of you dumb ones out there. Okay. Well, that means there's strengthened numbers, right, pal? Yeah. But you know all about frogs and nature and stuff like you president frogmen. If people want to talk to you about fish and insects and love to talk about those big horn sheep like you would know. Yeah, let's go. That stuff like you're a nature man. Yeah. Ben Johnson. Some moles got really weird noses. Ben Johnson immediately canceled the game on Monday and then called the mandatory meeting with the striking Detroit players. Okay. He told them if they struck another day,
Starting point is 01:07:23 he would ban them for life. Wow. Going Adam took it up a notch. Now they know Ben Johnson is you think we don't feel comfortable going out there and playing with that great squad we had the other day. Come on. What are you talking about? I mean, sure, one of them wants dental insurance, but outside of that, we've got him by the nuts. God, by the time the like a week goes by, they would have no faces left. Oh, I didn't really have a meeting. I left my house key in the room. I'll come back in a matter of time. Great. Go to me. I'm a real big fan. So he says he'll ban them for life and his name is Ben Johnson. So you got to take it seriously. So they head for DC for the next series. And in a rare moment of actual humility,
Starting point is 01:08:17 Cobb tells his teammates to not jeopardize their careers for him. And he says end the strike. So Ben Johnson's threat worked. The next day, the Tigers took the field and the one day strike was over. Every tiger was fined $100. Cobb was only fined 50. Interesting. Because technically, he didn't go on strike. Right. He was he was suspended. He was almost killed a man in the stands. Is that? Yeah, that's right. Yeah, right. And Ben Johnson reduced Cobb's suspension to 10 days, retroactive to May 16. So he's playing again eight days later. Right. Pretty fast for what he did. Yeah. I mean, beat him. Beat a guy with a hand. Yeah. It probably helped that Cobb had threatened to sue Major League Baseball for what they
Starting point is 01:09:08 did for the punishment. Right. Tavors became a celebrity doll's friends in, you know, the neighborhood. His mom, however, was not as excited. Tavors was the one who got the couple hits. He's the pitcher. He's the pace, the pitcher. Slow pitch. His mom was not excited because the day after the game, there was a picture of him in the paper with the caption, strike breaker under it. And at that time, there was a trolley worker strike in Philadelphia. And she was worried he would get attacked by, quote, hooligans. Right. Fair. Yeah. He wasn't. There's a rumor that flooded around. I told him just stick to violin. None of this would have ever happened if he just stuck to the oboe. Violins don't get beaten. Oh, come on.
Starting point is 01:09:53 There's a rumor floating around that the guy who replaced Cobb in center field, he's a married guy. And when his wife found out he had replaced Ty Cobb, she hit him in the head with a frying pan. What? Because she was mad that she's like, what do you think you are? You're being a scab for Ty Cobb. Oh, during the game, he tried to catch a foul fly ball, but it bounced off his skull. So he's getting, I mean, well, he'd been severely concussed. And now he double double. Yeah. A ball bounced off his head. He became a cop. Be that guy. Yeah. That would be my move. He became a cop in reality after this. Yeah. So he was Ty Cobb. I would, I would go
Starting point is 01:10:35 see a guy who could like head the ball and then catch it. Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Give me that guy. Travers graduated in 1913 and became a priest. He went and taught at Catholic school at Manhattan for eight years, then became a Dean of Men at St. Joseph's College in 1939. I'm the Dean of Men. I'm the man, Dean. Dean of Men. Hello, man. I'm your Dean. Which men? All men. All right. Now, let's, uh, nothing to giggle about. I'm the Dean of Men. It's kind of funny. Yeah. Let me give you my card. Oh, you're a Dean of Men. Mm-hmm. We have a den. A denomone. We have a men den, where I'm the Dean of Men. Oh, I like a men den. Mm-hmm. Uh, he was known as the man who saved the Detroit franchise and he is, to this day, the only Catholic priest to play a major
Starting point is 01:11:27 league baseball game. Let's keep it that way. He wouldn't talk. He should have been on the cardinals. He should have, my God, yeah. He would never talk about the game, quote, even when he was asked and the asking was usually done by, uh, wise guys in a taunting way. Yeah. Well, you told us about that time when you gave up 24 runs, dummy. What's up with you? Hit Travis. In 1916, the boxer without teeth, Billy Maharg, was hired as an assistant trainer and driver with the Philadelphia Phillies. Okay. Well, cool, boss. And they let him bat in the last game of 1916. Whoa. He did not get a hit. He grounded out. Well, still that's pretty good. If I made contact, I'd feel pretty good. Yeah. And then after the
Starting point is 01:12:19 game, he drove the catcher home because that was his job. Right. Sure. That was the end of his playing career, but not his baseball career. He was still involved in baseball because Maharg was involved in gambling and in 1919, he helped fix the World Series and what became known as the Black Sox scandal. Wow. In which a few White Sox through the World Series for $100,000. Maharg was the guy who helped set up the financing who put them together with crime boss Arnold Rothstein to get the money. And he got other investors. The gun will want you back to me. No, look, it's pretty straightforward. Okay. All we need are new. New gun, right? Nothing but God's favor. And make sure we go and make it look natural, boys.
Starting point is 01:13:09 Make it look really big and natural. Hey, fellas, I don't know. I don't know what Billy's saying. We never do, but he's got a suitcase of money here. And I think we just take it and just go for the best. It'd be great if he was like just doing a different thing and he was just saying good luck to them. And they're like, he said we get that briefcase. Let's take the money, I guess. I guess we take it. Yeah, let's get out of here. Oh, no. But I don't know anything. Your name is Maharg. My name is actually Mahogany. Mahogany. Mahogany. There were other investors who got involved, but then Mahogany's partner were double crossed and they got screwed in the fixing of the World Series. They got screwed? Yeah, they had, I don't know how, but all the investors, I don't know what
Starting point is 01:14:08 exactly happened. They probably made bets and then didn't give them the money, that kind of thing. Okay. So now Maharg is mad and he goes and tells a Philadelphia reporter the entire story of the fix. I'm not sure I'm following everything. So can you go back for you went and met with them? But that's not all of them. I told them very simply, if you don't, everybody's gonna want to know, but if you make it look natural. Okay. So boss, I met with the guy he told me to meet with and here's my notes. It says the World Marys is mixed. So that's the story, I guess we're going with, the World Marys is mixed. And by the way, I don't mind being anonymous of the whole. Okay. No, you're not going to be anonymous of the whole.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Yeah, yes. Yeah, that's what we're saying. Yeah, I'm asking a question. I know. Yes, it's a question. And I'm doing a rhetorical. Yes. Backtrack. Backtrack. Yes. Stake fry. Sorry. I did. Yes. So eight players were indicted. And Maharg testified at the trial. An observer said, quote, he flashed enough diamonds on his fingers to buy a flock of autos. They don't come in flocks. The players were found not guilty. And after the trial, Maharg celebrated with them. And then he gets drunk and he's like, so what I was saying to him before was quite simple. All we need to do is make sure we don't make it look like we've paid for anything.
Starting point is 01:16:11 Right. But all those players were banned from baseball. Right. Two had been on the 1912 Detroit Tigers. Wow. It is said the Cobb incident and the one strike game led to the formation of a players union, the ball players fraternity, which eventually became the current union, the major league baseball players association. Wow. That is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, that one game, how would you walk out? You could not be pissed. You know, it was a different time. Like people, I totally agree. Like I would just be like, this is amazing. I'm going to watch this. Even when the NFL had the replacement refs,
Starting point is 01:16:53 which was, I mean, the it's amazing when you watch an organization that you consider to be like, I mean, again, I have obviously, as you know, many issues with the NFL. But even then, you were like, this is a well run business. They are whether you, you know, there's many abysmal decisions they make, but as far as like product on the field and keeping fans satisfied and satiated that they're very good at that. And they for three or four weeks of the regular season allowed high school refs to and you can see on the ref's faces, they're like, Hey, can you believe this? I can't believe we're actually out here. I just threw a penalty flag. I'm roughing the passer in an NFL game. And it was and it was like crazy. Yeah. And and the NFL just kept
Starting point is 01:17:43 being like, no, they're going to get better. They're going to get better. Just give them a few, you know, and you're going, just get the fucking refs out here. Like pay whatever that you have the money. And until it ended on the Packers against the Seahawks on what was like, what just happened, you, you really were like, for a minute, you were like, this is a kind of enjoyable. You know, they didn't know what they were doing. Yeah. And it was a little enjoyable to watch people where the moment was too big for them. I mean, the great thing is, because we've seen, you know, they did replacement players in football that that one time, but this is different because this is a replacement team against a non replacement team, which makes it that much
Starting point is 01:18:20 more exciting. That should be its own league. Yeah. You know what you should do? And I feel like they, I feel like we could just like, I feel like boxing matches do this now where it's like, Hey, this guy used to be really good. He's going to fight this guy who's younger and not that good. Like every like, whatever, Jake Paul or Logan Paul fight, you're like, I mean, this guy shouldn't be fighting anymore, but you shouldn't be fine. You should have retired players play younger players who shouldn't be playing 100%. It'd be awesome. I know just the guy sources a beating in the stands followed by one on the field by Jim Reisler in the New York Times. 103 years ago, that asshole Ty Cobb attacked a fan by Michael Jackman in the Metro Times.
Starting point is 01:19:08 Great. See, there's some good titling throwback Thursday. Ty Cobb goes after heckler and his teammates go on strike by Michael Weinreb and vice. Ty Cobb by Dale Ginsberg in the Society of American Baseball Research and Alan Travers by Gary Levacari in the Society of American Baseball Research. Here would be my title. Take me out of the ball game because I'm going out to the crowd. Yes. Okay, I'm good. Well, yeah, do you want to show the cup one more time, Luke? Really just show it off. Casey's. Pizzas. Peace. Peace out. Peace out.

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